RE: [lace-chat] Shorthand

2010-04-16 Thread Sue
Oh Janice I had forgotten about the typing to music, we also had one rather
nasty teacher who used a metronome and speeded it up as you practice typed.
I can still hear him chanting ASDF:LKJ
We were not allowed to look at the keys and that has always stood me in good
stead as it definitely helped you type a lot faster.

Sue M Harvey
Norfolk UK

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RE: [lace-chat] shorthand

2010-04-16 Thread Sue
I still have my "Pitmans Course" book and also my "Learning and Testing
Short Forms" book that I had when I went back to evening classes to brush up
my shorthand. I took shorthand, typing and accounts at school way back in
the early fifties.
With the arrival of audio tapes the shorthand rather got lost along the way
as it was easier for the boss to dictate as and when he wanted.

Sue M Harvey
Norfolk UK

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[lace-chat] Shorthand

2010-04-15 Thread Janice Blair
Lesley wrote:



I also did Pitman at High School and college.  I remember reading short stories 
written in shorthand for practice. I wonder if they are still available, or 
like the skills have got left behind.  I still use it when taking notes and I 
sometimes think in shorthand shapes.  Was Pitman taught in the US?  I thought 
it was all Gregg over here.  I had a telex machine in my office once I was 
promoted out of the typing pool in my first job.  I remember that for that 
interview a secretary read a piece from the Guardian newspaper about a man 
running up Helvelyn  in the Lake District.  I totally lost it when she said 
that name and spent a long time trying to transcribe it.  Wish she had left the 
newspaper behind. :-)  I did get the job though and they paid for me to go to 
college on a secretarial course even though I already had high speeds at typing 
and shorthand.   My typing class was full of young policemen who had to learn 
how to do shorthand and typing. We
 used to type in time to music on a record player and had covered keys on the 
typewriter.  

Janice

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Re: [lace-chat] shorthand

2010-04-15 Thread Lesley Blackshaw

Ruth Rocker wrote:
I took shorthand in high school and then again in business college. But, 
unfortunately, by the time I sent to college to pursue my degree, I had 
lost those skills. I was truly bewailing the loss as it would have made 
lecture classes much easier to remember. Like most things in life, it's 
use it or lose it :D


I remember practicing by taking down the commentary on Queen's Silver 
Jubilee celebrations on TV.  I wish I'd kept that - it would have made an 
interesting keepsake.


Lesley

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Re: [lace-chat] shorthand

2010-04-15 Thread Lesley Blackshaw

Agnes Boddington wrote:
I still have my text book from a shorthand course I did when I was 15. I 
used shorthand for many years at school, university, work and still use 
it for general notes and lists and such like.

And, of course, I do it in Dutch.
Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK



I still use my shorthand - Pitman 2000, especially for taking telephone 
messages.


This discussion has reminded me about a temp job I did as secretary to a 
bank manager.  He used to reel off his letters really fast and I could 
barely keep up. Once I couldn't read a shorthand outline and had to ask him 
what the word was.  He pulled a piece of paper out of the bin and there was 
the letter he'd dictated - written in longhand. The reason he dictated so 
fast was because he was reading!!  Goodness knows why he didn't just give 
me the handwritten letter to copy type I don't know. Must have been 
something to do with the status symbol of having a secretary to take 
dictation.  So glad the job only lasted a week.


Lesley

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Re: [lace-chat] shorthand

2010-04-15 Thread Ruth Rocker
I took shorthand in high school and then again in business college. But, 
unfortunately, by the time I sent to college to pursue my degree, I had 
lost those skills. I was truly bewailing the loss as it would have made 
lecture classes much easier to remember. Like most things in life, it's 
use it or lose it :D


Agnes Boddington wrote:
I still have my text book from a shorthand course I did when I was 15. 
I used shorthand for many years at school, university, work and still 
use it for general notes and lists and such like.

And, of course, I do it in Dutch.
Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK

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[lace-chat] shorthand

2010-04-15 Thread Agnes Boddington
I still have my text book from a shorthand course I did when I was 15. I 
used shorthand for many years at school, university, work and still use it 
for general notes and lists and such like.

And, of course, I do it in Dutch.
Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK

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[lace-chat] Shorthand/texting

2009-03-21 Thread Jean Nathan
Posting this here because it has nothing to do with lace, but related to 
what was being discussed there.


There were a couple of comedians performing (one is now dead) called the Two 
Ronnies (Ronnie Barker and Ronnie Corbett). Barker wrote many sketches under 
an assumed name because he didn't know if they would be good enough. One was 
set in a (probably) German cafe about a customer wanting ham and eggs, and 
was based entirely on letters of the alphabet.


Ronnie Corbett: L.O.
Ronnie Barker: L.O.
Ronnie Corbett: R.U.B.C?
Ronnie Barker: S.V.R.B.C.
Various Characters: [enter waitress carrying a large ham on a silver salver] 
L.O.

Ronnie Barker: L.O.
Ronnie Corbett: L.O.
[exit waitress into kitchen]
Ronnie Corbett: F.U.N.E.X?
Ronnie Barker: S.V.F.X.
Ronnie Corbett: F.U.N.E.M?
Ronnie Barker: 9.
Ronnie Corbett: I.F.C.D.M.
Ronnie Barker: [insistently] V.F.N.10.E.M.
Various Characters: [enter waitress from kitchen still carrying the ham] A. 
V.F.M.

Ronnie Corbett: R.
Ronnie Corbett: O.
Various Characters: C. D.M.
[exit waitress into kitchen]
Ronnie Barker: O.S. V.F.M.
Ronnie Corbett: O.K. M.N.X.
Ronnie Barker: M.N.X.
Ronnie Corbett: F.U.N.E.T?
Ronnie Barker: 1 T.
Ronnie Corbett: 1 T.
Ronnie Barker: O.K. M.X.N.T.
[he finishes writing it on his pad with a flourish and calls at the kitchen 
door]

Ronnie Barker: M.X.N.T.4.1.

They did another very famous one on different word meanings and 
pronunciation known as "Four candles" set in an old-fashioned hardware shop 
with the customer asking for various items and the shop keeper coming up 
with the wrong things. Examples were:


"Four candles" - "fork handles" - handles for forks.

"ose" shop keeper produced hose (stockings), garden hose for watering- 
wanted letter Os for a house name Mon Repose.


The whole script is on 
http://www.angelfire.com/me/tvcomedy/fourcandles.html. The actual sketch is 
on utube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cz2-ukrd2VQ


Wonderful what you can do with language.

Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK

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