Re: L&I eek! Not April Fools!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (William J. Foristal) writes: Hi Kathy, I'm not sure what 48 Hours had to say about this, but it's all made up by someone with a sick sense of humor. :) This has become another urban legend that has been making the rounds of the Internet for quite some time now. Bill On Wed, 1 Apr 1998 16:19:47 -0500 "Kathy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >"Kathy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >Kaye.. >There was a show on this 48 hours I believe ( actually can't >remember >which show ) and also this is the email I received concerning >thisI >received this in Feb > >>This is a true, scary story!!! Read and and pass it along if you >know >>anyone >>who this could affect. >> >> >>THIS IS NOT A JOKE: >>This guy went out last Saturday night to a party. He was having a >good >>time, had a couple of beers and some girl seemed to like him and >invited >>him to go to another party. He quickly agreed. She took him to a >party >>in some apartment and they continued to drink, and even got involved >>with some other drugs (unknown which). The next thing he knew, he >woke >>up completely naked in a bathtub filled with ice. He was still >feeling the >>effects of the drugs, but looked around to see he was alone. He >looked down >>at >>his chest, which had "CALL 911 OR YOU WILL DIE" written on it in >lipstick. >>He >>saw a phone was on a stand next to the tub, so he picked it up and >dialed. >>He >>explained to the EMS operator what the situation was and that he >didn't >>know >>where he was, what he took, or why he was really calling. She advised >him >>to >>get out of the tub. He did, and she asked him to look himself over in >the >>mirror. He did, and appeared normal, so she told him to check his >back. He >>did, only to find two 9 inch slits on his lower back. She told him to >get >>back >>in the tub immediately, and they sent a rescue team over. Apparently, >after >>being examined, he found out more of what had happened. His kidneys >were >>stolen. They are worth 10,000 dollars each on the black market. (I >was >>unaware >>this even existed.) Several guesses are in order: >>The second party was a sham, the people involved had to be at least >medical >>students, and it was not just recreational drugs he as given. >Regardless, >>he >>is currently in the hospital on life support, awaiting a spare >kidney. The >>University of Texas in conjunction with Baylor University Medical >Center is >>conducting tissue research to match the sophomore student with a >donor. I >>wish >>to warn you about a new crime ring that is targeting business >travelers. >>This >>ring is well organized, well funded, has very skilled personnel, and >is >>currently in most major cities and recently very active in New >Orleans. The >>crime begins when a business traveler goes to a lounge for a drink at >the >>end >>of the work day. A person in the bar walks up as they sit alone and >offers >>to >>buy them a drink. The last thing the traveler remembers until they >wake up >>in >>a hotel room bath tub, their body submerged to their neck in ice, is >>sipping >>that drink.There is a note taped to the wall instructing them not to >move >>and >>to call 911. A phone is on a small table next to the bathtub for them >to >>call. >>The business traveler calls 911 who have become quite familiar with >this >>crime. The business traveler is instructed by the 911 operator to >very >>slowly >>and carefully reach behind them and feel if there is a tube >protruding from >>their lower back. The business traveler finds the tube and answers, >"Yes." >>The >>911 operator tells them to remain still, having already sent >paramedics to >>help. The operator knows that both of the business traveler's kidneys >have >>been harvested. This is not a scam or out of a science fiction novel, >it is >>real. It is documented and >>confirmable. If you travel or someone close to you travels, please be >>careful. Sadly, this is very true. My husband is a Houston >Firefighter/EMT >>and they have received alerts regarding this crime ring. It is to be >>taken very seriously. The daughter of a friend of a fellow >firefighter >>had this happen to her. skilled doctor's are performing these >>crimes!(which, >>by >>the way have been highly noted in the Las Vegas area). Additionally, >the >>military has received alerts regarding this. This story blew me away. >I >>really >>want as many people to see this as possible, so please bounce this to >>whoever >>you can. >>Michele Shafer - DML/Lab Administration >>Medical Manager Research & Development >>15151 N.W. 99th Street >>Alachua, Florida 32615 >>Tel. (904) 462-2148 >>Fax (904) 462-1505 >>Is this not one of the scariest things you have ever heard of? >>PLEASE forward this to everyone you know >> > > > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues > ___
Re: L&I eek! Not April Fools!
Kathy E <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Kaye this is a urban legend that has been around for awhile. None of it is true. Kaye wrote: > > Kaye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Here's a real Batz Horror story from Lawrence Livermore and the DLM Lab in > Alachua, FL: > > There is a crime ring operating in the South, with concentrations in > Florida, Texas, and the New Orleans area of Louisiana. Lately there -- Kathy E "I can only please one person a day, today is NOT your day, and tomorrow isn't looking too good for you either" http://members.delphi.com/kathylaw/ Law & Issues Mailing List http://pw1.netcom.com/~kathye/rodeo.html - Cowboy Histories http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Lobby/2990/law.htm Crime photo's Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: L&I eek! Not April Fools!
DocCec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: In a message dated 98-04-01 21:02:31 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << I have seen that the urologists can remove a kidney laparoscopically ( they actually wrap it in a little bag after cutting the blood supply and ureter, then insert a thing that blenderizes the kidney), so yes you can remove a kidney, obviously not fit for transplantation, through a very small incision. Ron >> Will wonders never cease? But as you say, that would put a crimp in the transplant potential. Thanks. Doc Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: L&I eek! Not April Fools!
"Ronald Helm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: This guy was >told to examine his back for two small slits -- weird!Do they do kidney >removals through keyhole incisions now? My daughter had one removed years ago >-- a large incision on the left side of her abdomen. Un-nice. >You missed a fun post, though. Someone, please send it to him -- I don't save >mail. >Doc > Don't bother sending it. I later got it and concluded that it indeed was another urban legend. I have seen that the urologists can remove a kidney laparoscopically ( they actually wrap it in a little bag after cutting the blood supply and ureter, then insert a thing that blenderizes the kidney), so yes you can remove a kidney, obviously not fit for transplantation, through a very small incision. Ron Women have their faults. Men have only two. Everything they say. Everything they do. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: L&I eek! Not April Fools!
DocCec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: In a message dated 98-04-01 18:54:12 EST, you write: << I did not see the post to which you refer, but the urologists, if they know they do not have to explore the abdomen, will often use a flank incision and a retroperitoneal approach to the kidney. Not really in the back, but at the costovertebral angle, where the lower ribs, join the spine. Avoiding entry into the peritoneal cavity decreases the chance of peritonitis, post-op ileus, and gives a generally faster recovery. Ron >> Thanks, but I don't think a flank entry fits with the scenario. This guy was told to examine his back for two small slits -- weird!Do they do kidney removals through keyhole incisions now? My daughter had one removed years ago -- a large incision on the left side of her abdomen. Un-nice. You missed a fun post, though. Someone, please send it to him -- I don't save mail. Doc Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: L&I eek! Not April Fools!
"Ronald Helm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >Since when are kidneys removed via incisions in the back? Ron, is this >something new, or just another urban legend on an appropriate day? >Doc > I did not see the post to which you refer, but the urologists, if they know they do not have to explore the abdomen, will often use a flank incision and a retroperitoneal approach to the kidney. Not really in the back, but at the costovertebral angle, where the lower ribs, join the spine. Avoiding entry into the peritoneal cavity decreases the chance of peritonitis, post-op ileus, and gives a generally faster recovery. Ron Women have their faults. Men have only two. Everything they say. Everything they do. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: L&I eek! Not April Fools!
Kaye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: No Sue.. it's NOT a joke! It happened to me.. twice! I was freezing! :-D At 01:35 PM 4/1/98 -0800, you wrote: >Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >Hi Kathy: > >This is another "urban legend". Go to >http://urbanlegends.miningco.com/mbody/htm and you can see a lot of >these things that are on here. > >Sue >> >> Kaye.. >> There was a show on this 48 hours I believe ( actually can't remember >> which show ) and also this is the email I received concerning thisI >> received this in Feb >> >> >This is a true, scary story!!! Read and and pass it along if you know >> >anyone >> >who this could affect. >> > >> > >> >THIS IS NOT A JOKE: >> >This guy went out last Saturday night to a party. He was having a good >> >time, had a couple of beers and some girl seemed to like him and invited >> >him to go to another party. He quickly agreed. She took him to a party >> >in some apartment and they continued to drink, and even got involved >> >with some other drugs (unknown which). The next thing he knew, he woke >> >up completely naked in a bathtub filled with ice. He was still feeling the >> >effects of the drugs, but looked around to see he was alone. He looked down >> >at >> >his chest, which had "CALL 911 OR YOU WILL DIE" written on it in lipstick. >> >He >> >saw a phone was on a stand next to the tub, so he picked it up and dialed. >> >He >> >explained to the EMS operator what the situation was and that he didn't >> >know >> >where he was, what he took, or why he was really calling. She advised him >> >to >> >get out of the tub. He did, and she asked him to look himself over in the >> >mirror. He did, and appeared normal, so she told him to check his back. He >> >did, only to find two 9 inch slits on his lower back. She told him to get >> >back >> >in the tub immediately, and they sent a rescue team over. Apparently, after >> >being examined, he found out more of what had happened. His kidneys were >> >stolen. They are worth 10,000 dollars each on the black market. (I was >> >unaware >> >this even existed.) Several guesses are in order: >> >The second party was a sham, the people involved had to be at least medical >> >students, and it was not just recreational drugs he as given. Regardless, >> >he >> >is currently in the hospital on life support, awaiting a spare kidney. The >> >University of Texas in conjunction with Baylor University Medical Center is >> >conducting tissue research to match the sophomore student with a donor. I >> >wish >> >to warn you about a new crime ring that is targeting business travelers. >> >This >> >ring is well organized, well funded, has very skilled personnel, and is >> >currently in most major cities and recently very active in New Orleans. The >> >crime begins when a business traveler goes to a lounge for a drink at the >> >end >> >of the work day. A person in the bar walks up as they sit alone and offers >> >to >> >buy them a drink. The last thing the traveler remembers until they wake up >> >in >> >a hotel room bath tub, their body submerged to their neck in ice, is >> >sipping >> >that drink.There is a note taped to the wall instructing them not to move >> >and >> >to call 911. A phone is on a small table next to the bathtub for them to >> >call. >> >The business traveler calls 911 who have become quite familiar with this >> >crime. The business traveler is instructed by the 911 operator to very >> >slowly >> >and carefully reach behind them and feel if there is a tube protruding from >> >their lower back. The business traveler finds the tube and answers, "Yes." >> >The >> >911 operator tells them to remain still, having already sent paramedics to >> >help. The operator knows that both of the business traveler's kidneys have >> >been harvested. This is not a scam or out of a science fiction novel, it is >> >real. It is documented and >> >confirmable. If you travel or someone close to you travels, please be >> >careful. Sadly, this is very true. My husband is a Houston Firefighter/EMT >> >and they have received alerts regarding this crime ring. It is to be >> >taken very seriously. The daughter of a friend of a fellow firefighter >> >had this happen to her. skilled doctor's are performing these >> >crimes!(which, >> >by >> >the way have been highly noted in the Las Vegas area). Additionally, the >> >military has received alerts regarding this. This story blew me away. I >> >really >> >want as many people to see this as possible, so please bounce this to >> >whoever >> >you can. >> >Michele Shafer - DML/Lab Administration >> >Medical Manager Research & Development >> >15151 N.W. 99th Street >> >Alachua, Florida 32615 >> >Tel. (904) 462-2148 >> >Fax (904) 462-1505 >> >Is this not one of the scariest things you have ever heard of? >> >PLEASE forward this to everyone you know >> > >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues > >-- >Two r
Re: L&I eek! Not April Fools!
DocCec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Since when are kidneys removed via incisions in the back? Ron, is this something new, or just another urban legend on an appropriate day? Doc Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: L&I eek! Not April Fools!
Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hi Kathy: This is another "urban legend". Go to http://urbanlegends.miningco.com/mbody/htm and you can see a lot of these things that are on here. Sue > > Kaye.. > There was a show on this 48 hours I believe ( actually can't remember > which show ) and also this is the email I received concerning thisI > received this in Feb > > >This is a true, scary story!!! Read and and pass it along if you know > >anyone > >who this could affect. > > > > > >THIS IS NOT A JOKE: > >This guy went out last Saturday night to a party. He was having a good > >time, had a couple of beers and some girl seemed to like him and invited > >him to go to another party. He quickly agreed. She took him to a party > >in some apartment and they continued to drink, and even got involved > >with some other drugs (unknown which). The next thing he knew, he woke > >up completely naked in a bathtub filled with ice. He was still feeling the > >effects of the drugs, but looked around to see he was alone. He looked down > >at > >his chest, which had "CALL 911 OR YOU WILL DIE" written on it in lipstick. > >He > >saw a phone was on a stand next to the tub, so he picked it up and dialed. > >He > >explained to the EMS operator what the situation was and that he didn't > >know > >where he was, what he took, or why he was really calling. She advised him > >to > >get out of the tub. He did, and she asked him to look himself over in the > >mirror. He did, and appeared normal, so she told him to check his back. He > >did, only to find two 9 inch slits on his lower back. She told him to get > >back > >in the tub immediately, and they sent a rescue team over. Apparently, after > >being examined, he found out more of what had happened. His kidneys were > >stolen. They are worth 10,000 dollars each on the black market. (I was > >unaware > >this even existed.) Several guesses are in order: > >The second party was a sham, the people involved had to be at least medical > >students, and it was not just recreational drugs he as given. Regardless, > >he > >is currently in the hospital on life support, awaiting a spare kidney. The > >University of Texas in conjunction with Baylor University Medical Center is > >conducting tissue research to match the sophomore student with a donor. I > >wish > >to warn you about a new crime ring that is targeting business travelers. > >This > >ring is well organized, well funded, has very skilled personnel, and is > >currently in most major cities and recently very active in New Orleans. The > >crime begins when a business traveler goes to a lounge for a drink at the > >end > >of the work day. A person in the bar walks up as they sit alone and offers > >to > >buy them a drink. The last thing the traveler remembers until they wake up > >in > >a hotel room bath tub, their body submerged to their neck in ice, is > >sipping > >that drink.There is a note taped to the wall instructing them not to move > >and > >to call 911. A phone is on a small table next to the bathtub for them to > >call. > >The business traveler calls 911 who have become quite familiar with this > >crime. The business traveler is instructed by the 911 operator to very > >slowly > >and carefully reach behind them and feel if there is a tube protruding from > >their lower back. The business traveler finds the tube and answers, "Yes." > >The > >911 operator tells them to remain still, having already sent paramedics to > >help. The operator knows that both of the business traveler's kidneys have > >been harvested. This is not a scam or out of a science fiction novel, it is > >real. It is documented and > >confirmable. If you travel or someone close to you travels, please be > >careful. Sadly, this is very true. My husband is a Houston Firefighter/EMT > >and they have received alerts regarding this crime ring. It is to be > >taken very seriously. The daughter of a friend of a fellow firefighter > >had this happen to her. skilled doctor's are performing these > >crimes!(which, > >by > >the way have been highly noted in the Las Vegas area). Additionally, the > >military has received alerts regarding this. This story blew me away. I > >really > >want as many people to see this as possible, so please bounce this to > >whoever > >you can. > >Michele Shafer - DML/Lab Administration > >Medical Manager Research & Development > >15151 N.W. 99th Street > >Alachua, Florida 32615 > >Tel. (904) 462-2148 > >Fax (904) 462-1505 > >Is this not one of the scariest things you have ever heard of? > >PLEASE forward this to everyone you know > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues -- Two rules in life: 1. Don't tell people everything you know. 2. Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: L&I eek! Not April Fools!
"Kathy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Kaye.. There was a show on this 48 hours I believe ( actually can't remember which show ) and also this is the email I received concerning thisI received this in Feb >This is a true, scary story!!! Read and and pass it along if you know >anyone >who this could affect. > > >THIS IS NOT A JOKE: >This guy went out last Saturday night to a party. He was having a good >time, had a couple of beers and some girl seemed to like him and invited >him to go to another party. He quickly agreed. She took him to a party >in some apartment and they continued to drink, and even got involved >with some other drugs (unknown which). The next thing he knew, he woke >up completely naked in a bathtub filled with ice. He was still feeling the >effects of the drugs, but looked around to see he was alone. He looked down >at >his chest, which had "CALL 911 OR YOU WILL DIE" written on it in lipstick. >He >saw a phone was on a stand next to the tub, so he picked it up and dialed. >He >explained to the EMS operator what the situation was and that he didn't >know >where he was, what he took, or why he was really calling. She advised him >to >get out of the tub. He did, and she asked him to look himself over in the >mirror. He did, and appeared normal, so she told him to check his back. He >did, only to find two 9 inch slits on his lower back. She told him to get >back >in the tub immediately, and they sent a rescue team over. Apparently, after >being examined, he found out more of what had happened. His kidneys were >stolen. They are worth 10,000 dollars each on the black market. (I was >unaware >this even existed.) Several guesses are in order: >The second party was a sham, the people involved had to be at least medical >students, and it was not just recreational drugs he as given. Regardless, >he >is currently in the hospital on life support, awaiting a spare kidney. The >University of Texas in conjunction with Baylor University Medical Center is >conducting tissue research to match the sophomore student with a donor. I >wish >to warn you about a new crime ring that is targeting business travelers. >This >ring is well organized, well funded, has very skilled personnel, and is >currently in most major cities and recently very active in New Orleans. The >crime begins when a business traveler goes to a lounge for a drink at the >end >of the work day. A person in the bar walks up as they sit alone and offers >to >buy them a drink. The last thing the traveler remembers until they wake up >in >a hotel room bath tub, their body submerged to their neck in ice, is >sipping >that drink.There is a note taped to the wall instructing them not to move >and >to call 911. A phone is on a small table next to the bathtub for them to >call. >The business traveler calls 911 who have become quite familiar with this >crime. The business traveler is instructed by the 911 operator to very >slowly >and carefully reach behind them and feel if there is a tube protruding from >their lower back. The business traveler finds the tube and answers, "Yes." >The >911 operator tells them to remain still, having already sent paramedics to >help. The operator knows that both of the business traveler's kidneys have >been harvested. This is not a scam or out of a science fiction novel, it is >real. It is documented and >confirmable. If you travel or someone close to you travels, please be >careful. Sadly, this is very true. My husband is a Houston Firefighter/EMT >and they have received alerts regarding this crime ring. It is to be >taken very seriously. The daughter of a friend of a fellow firefighter >had this happen to her. skilled doctor's are performing these >crimes!(which, >by >the way have been highly noted in the Las Vegas area). Additionally, the >military has received alerts regarding this. This story blew me away. I >really >want as many people to see this as possible, so please bounce this to >whoever >you can. >Michele Shafer - DML/Lab Administration >Medical Manager Research & Development >15151 N.W. 99th Street >Alachua, Florida 32615 >Tel. (904) 462-2148 >Fax (904) 462-1505 >Is this not one of the scariest things you have ever heard of? >PLEASE forward this to everyone you know > Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
L&I eek! Not April Fools!
Kaye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Here's a real Batz Horror story from Lawrence Livermore and the DLM Lab in Alachua, FL: There is a crime ring operating in the South, with concentrations in Florida, Texas, and the New Orleans area of Louisiana. Lately there has also been activity in Las Vegas, and it is slowly expanding to other major cities. Alerts have traveled through the military also, because this is no penny-ante operation. It is well-organized and funded, and involves skilled medical personnel, most likely advanced med students and/or doctors. Here the scenario: A traveler, male or female (although men have comprised most of the victims so far, and you'll see why) goes alone into a bar or hotel lounge for a drink, where he or she is engaged in conversation by a stranger who offers to buy the victim a drink. The victim is then distracted in some way, most usually a phone page, a hotel note, or another stranger who stops by to speak to the drink buyer. The distraction passes and they have a pleasant drink together. This is the last thing the victim remembers before waking up naked in a tub full of ice. There is a note nearby which says "Do not move or leave this tub. Call 911 or you will die." A phone is within reach. EMS workers in Houston have become familiar with these calls, and instruct the caller to reach around and feel if there is a tube protruding from the lower back. As soon as the victims answers "yes", the 911 worker tells him or her to remain absolutely still, as they have already dispatched paramedics. What's happened? Both kidneys have been "harvested" from the healthy victim, whose drink was "laced" with a modern equivalent of the old-fashioned "Mickey Finn." Why? Simple--money. A healthy kidney is worth $10,000 on the "fresh organ black market." (Yes, it does exist--YIKES!) Victims in their 20s and 30s are the "best" prey---but teens and older victims have been reported as well. This really made my day---I thought sure it was an April Fool joke until our Fire Safety Officer and our "Campus Cop" assured me it most certainly was not. Don't drink and drive may have just become don't drink and travel. What a world, huh? As written to me by Barbie Batz... k Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
