Re: Learning Styles was Re: LI Flying Saucers

1998-03-13 Thread Jackie Fellows

Jackie Fellows [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Hi Doc

That really makes sense--I think I will mention it at the assessment committee's
next meeting.  I just got put on that committee after they found out Tom and I
were looking at learning styles.  I think I will also check with the director of
the Students for Success"   They deal with students who need extra help.

I wonder if that would explain why I talk outloud to myself so much when I am
doing something--it drives Ed bananas G.

jackief

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 Oh I'm sure it does.  You have to teach your students in the way they learn,
 whether or not that is your own "favorite" way.  That does become difficult
 when you are dealing with an aural learner and trying to teach a visual
 subject like Pathology.  Our Path faculty were really flummoxed until I
 suggested having the student "talk" him/herself through the slides.  It's not
 perfect, but it helps.  I know that if I want to remember something I see or
 read I have to hear myself say it (even silently).
 Doc

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Re: Learning Styles was Re: LI Flying Saucers

1998-03-13 Thread DocCec

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In a message dated 98-03-13 06:47:28 EST, you write:

 I wonder if that would explain why I talk outloud to myself so much when I
am
 doing something--it drives Ed bananas G.
  

I do it all the time -- have to remind myself to "talk silently" when I am
with other people.
Doc

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Re: Learning Styles was Re: LI Flying Saucers

1998-03-13 Thread Jackie Fellows

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Hi Doc

Could you see us walking down the street together--each engaging in her own
conversation?

jackief

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 DocCec [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 In a message dated 98-03-13 06:47:28 EST, you write:

  I wonder if that would explain why I talk outloud to myself so much when I
 am
  doing something--it drives Ed bananas G.
   

 I do it all the time -- have to remind myself to "talk silently" when I am
 with other people.
 Doc

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Re: LI Flying Saucers

1998-03-12 Thread Jackie Fellows

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William J. Foristal wrote:

  Or is that something planned
 by the aliens? G

 Bill


Hi Bill

Perhaps, they are leaking the information gradually so we will understand the
complexity of the situation bbbg

jackief

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Learning Styles was Re: LI Flying Saucers

1998-03-12 Thread Jackie Fellows

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DocCec wrote:

 DocCec [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 In a message dated 98-03-11 06:06:27 EST, you write:


 Never heard of mind mapping.  I do know we tend to learn aurally rather than
 visually or tactually -- or so they say, and I know it's true for me.  I
 remember what I hear, verbatim and with all intonations intact, far longer
 than I remember what I've seen.  What is mind mapping?  Is it connected to
 that N factor that makes our minds more like a grid or a spider web than like
 the linear minds of the S's?
 Doc

 Hi Doc

I have never heard of mind mapping?  Think I will go surfing.  I would imagine
that the N factor would be the case as I think that is the abstract thinking vrs
concrete thinking, isn't it.  Had to go to my ole' alma mater yesterday and
talked to one of my mentors--he is now dean of graduate studies and we started
talking about this stuff.  He is an NF too so you know how abstract we were
getting.  Poor Ed, he is an SF.

The learning stuff I pulled from the net really picked up on the aural learning
aspect of the NF personality.  I should go back in and get the other three
temperaments so I can compare them easily.  The majority of my students last year
in Psych were ESTJ's and were majoring in nursing or criminal justice.  They
tended to rank individual experience and visual aids as the most effective in
learning new material.  They really thought  'participant observation'
assignments helped them most in learning.  Hmm, I wonder.  I wonder if this has a
bearing on the problems in education to some degree.

jackief



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Mind Mapping was Re: LI Flying Saucers

1998-03-12 Thread Jackie Fellows

Hi Bill and Doc

It seems mind mapping is a new tool to teach creative thinking.  One site
with a pretty picture is www.aws.com.sg/mind.html.

You start out with a subject--the central image

You then map the main themes (main branches) which radiate from the central
theme.

Next you link minor thems to main themes

All the branches are then connected froming a nodal structure.

I attached the file--it is html though.

jackief


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 On Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:24:34 EST DocCec [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 DocCec [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 
 In a message dated 98-03-11 06:06:27 EST, you write:
 
  BTW--off topic but us ENFPs have quite the learning style--Have you
 heard
 of
  Mind Mapping??  Says we would benefit from it--almost scared to know
 what it
 is
  G.  I am having more fun with this stuff--who says research can't
 be fun!!
 
  jackief 
 
 Never heard of mind mapping.  I do know we tend to learn aurally
 rather than
 visually or tactually -- or so they say, and I know it's true for me.
 I
 remember what I hear, verbatim and with all intonations intact, far
 longer
 than I remember what I've seen.  What is mind mapping?  Is it
 connected to
 that N factor that makes our minds more like a grid or a spider web
 than like
 the linear minds of the S's?
 Doc

 HI Doc,

 I thought mind mapping was when they labeled each part of the brain that
 is responsible for a certain function.

 Bill

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Re: LI Flying Saucers

1998-03-12 Thread DocCec

DocCec [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


In a message dated 98-03-11 12:38:05 EST, you write:

 Probably the same reaction as has been given to other stories, unless the
 person can provide more solid proof of the story.  I think it's more
 revealing to consider why we haven't heard from highly intelligent and
 esteemed people being abducted by aliens.  Or is that something planned
 by the aliens? G
  

Do we really know we haven't heard this from highly intelligent people?  I
don't think I"ve ever heard anything about the IQ level of the people claiming
to have been abducted.
Doc

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Re: LI Flying Saucers

1998-03-12 Thread William J. Foristal

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On Thu, 12 Mar 1998 03:54:22 -0600 Jackie Fellows [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Jackie Fellows [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:




William J. Foristal wrote:

  Or is that something planned
 by the aliens? G

 Bill


Hi Bill

Perhaps, they are leaking the information gradually so we will 
understand the
complexity of the situation bbbg

jackief

Hi Jackie,

Wow, that means that they are REALLY a LOT more intelligent than we are.
:)

Bill


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Re: Learning Styles was Re: LI Flying Saucers

1998-03-12 Thread DocCec

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In a message dated 98-03-12 05:53:31 EST, you write:

 The learning stuff I pulled from the net really picked up on the aural
learning
 aspect of the NF personality.  I should go back in and get the other three
 temperaments so I can compare them easily.  The majority of my students last
year
 in Psych were ESTJ's and were majoring in nursing or criminal justice.  They
 tended to rank individual experience and visual aids as the most effective in
 learning new material.  They really thought  'participant observation'
 assignments helped them most in learning.  Hmm, I wonder.  I wonder if this
has a
 bearing on the problems in education to some degree.
 
 jackief 

Oh I'm sure it does.  You have to teach your students in the way they learn,
whether or not that is your own "favorite" way.  That does become difficult
when you are dealing with an aural learner and trying to teach a visual
subject like Pathology.  Our Path faculty were really flummoxed until I
suggested having the student "talk" him/herself through the slides.  It's not
perfect, but it helps.  I know that if I want to remember something I see or
read I have to hear myself say it (even silently).
Doc

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Re: LI Flying Saucers

1998-03-11 Thread Jackie Fellows

Jackie Fellows [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Hi Doc

I guess you are right.  History shows us that.  But, one can dream and hope that
at some point in time we would learn.


BTW--off topic but us ENFPs have quite the learning style--Have you heard of
Mind Mapping??  Says we would benefit from it--almost scared to know what it is
G.  I am having more fun with this stuff--who says research can't be fun!!

jackief

DocCec wrote:

 DocCec [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 In a message dated 98-03-10 17:53:42 EST, you write:

  I wonder what would happen if someone that was esteemed and thought to be
  highly intelligent, etc. suddenly announced he/she had been abducted.

  jackief 

 I suspect he or she would rapidly cease to be esteemed and thought to be
 intelligent.  It's much easier to disparage the teacher than it is to learn
 something new.
 Doc

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Re: LI Flying Saucers

1998-03-11 Thread William J. Foristal

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On Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:51:34 -0600 Jackie Fellows [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Jackie Fellows [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:




William J. Foristal wrote:

 Hi Jackie,

 And certainly incidents like the Heaven's Gate suicide don't do much 
to
 change that public perception and behavior.  Also, the fact that 
people
 who have reported being abducted by aliens and taken aboard 
spaceships
 have never been the type of people that others take very seriously.

 Bill

Hi Bill

I wonder what would happen if someone that was esteemed and thought to 
be
highly intelligent, etc. suddenly announced he/she had been abducted.

jackief

HI Jackie,

Probably the same reaction as has been given to other stories, unless the
person can provide more solid proof of the story.  I think it's more
revealing to consider why we haven't heard from highly intelligent and
esteemed people being abducted by aliens.  Or is that something planned
by the aliens? G

Bill


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Re: LI Flying Saucers

1998-03-11 Thread DocCec

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In a message dated 98-03-10 15:22:49 EST, you write:

 Greetings friends - and there is this perspective:  human beings are
 from another planet.   :)  LDMF. 

Or two, if you count the Mars/Venus theory.
Doc

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Re: LI Flying Saucers

1998-03-10 Thread William J. Foristal

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HI Sue,

He's probably referring to the large numbers of planets like earth that
have all the physical parameters that we recognize as being essential to
supporting some form of life.  Of course, even this understates the
probability because that only covers life forms as WE know them.  IMO, it
is the almost inconceivable size of the universe that makes it almost a
certainty that other life forms do exist.  And it is the same
inconceivable size that makes me think that none of these life forms have
likely been anywhere near our planet.  

Bill


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Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Hi Bill:

My husband is into the scientific end of all of this and he believes
that there is "life" out there somewhere.  Perhaps not *people* kind 
of
life, but life nevertheless.  He also tried to explain to me yesterday
something about the sun and the orbit of the earth, etc and how it 
would
relate to all of this.

I have to say he lost me on it all.  :(

I do believe though that if an alien being did come here we would
probably all freak out and beat him/her up.  We are certainly not that
civilized when it comes to things that we don't understand, or people
for that matter, that are a little different.  :(

Sue
 
 Hi Sue,
 
 IMO, if they have the technology to travel across so great a 
distance
 then they will be far superior to us in all areas.  So we would 
certainly
 pose not threat to them.
 
 Now, consider what WE would do if we encountered a world with life 
forms
 that are far inferior to us.  Would we simply observe and leave them
 alone?  I dont' think we would.
 
 IMO, we WILL have a major contact some time in the future.  And it 
will
 be with a civilization that has a space vehicle as its world and 
will
 carry beings that have evolved on this space vehicle over an 
inredibly
 long period of time.  After all, we could consider our own world a 
space
 vehicle that we do not have control over and that travels in an
 elliptical orbit around the sun.
 
 Bill


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Re: LI Flying Saucers

1998-03-10 Thread Sue Hartigan

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Hi Bill:

Could be. LOL  Seriously he talks about universes, black holes, and
other things with long names that I can't even begin to pronounce much
less spell.  Then just to confuse the issue with me he throws in these
mathematical things which really throws me off.  I had a hard time with
algebra and here he goes with this quantum physics stuff.  BG  If it
isn't a cc or mL, or something like that, it is beyond me. 

I do agree that there is more than likely life somewhere out there.  But
I honestly don't think that it has ever been here.  But since I am going
only by the fact that I have never seen any evidence to prove it, I
wouldn't even bet my life on that.

Sue 
 
 HI Sue,
 
 He's probably referring to the large numbers of planets like earth that
 have all the physical parameters that we recognize as being essential to
 supporting some form of life.  Of course, even this understates the
 probability because that only covers life forms as WE know them.  IMO, it
 is the almost inconceivable size of the universe that makes it almost a
 certainty that other life forms do exist.  And it is the same
 inconceivable size that makes me think that none of these life forms have
 likely been anywhere near our planet.
 
 Bill

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