Re: [Lazarus] Feedback Wanted: Next tutoring project
On 5/5/2019 6:44 PM, Anthony Walter via lazarus wrote: Here is my idea: I want to design an example project that allows students to write functions that generate musical tones. These tones... ... They will also have the ability visual the tones through an oscilloscope like graph that I draw. As tones are played they can see the graph chance in real time. Types of tones that students might create include square wave, saw wave, sin wave, and other wave types. That sounds *very* good to me! This would be nice to use to learn how to use a PicoScope by hooking it up to display the same graph. You get *fantastic* software for an inexpensive price: https://www.picotech.com/oscilloscope/2000/picoscope-2000-overview There are a few ideas and PicoScope links here: http://controlpascal.com/tutorial.htm Best Regards, Paul -- ___ lazarus mailing list lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org https://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus crashes on launch - Ubuntu
On 3/20/2019 5:02 AM, Mick Arundell via lazarus wrote: Hi Team I've recently install Lazarus 1.8.2, fpc 4.0.4 using normal apt-get routines Ubuntu is Linux wildone 4.15.0-46-generic #49-Ubuntu SMP Wed Feb 6 09:33:07 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux On launch an Access Violation message box jumps up "Access violation, Press OK to ignore and risk data corruption. Press Abort to kill the program" Can anyone diagnose the problem for me or tell me how to find the fault please? I inspected /etc/lazarus/environmentoptions.xml and found that this set of directories do not exist I have already removed and reloaded several times. What should I do next? Thank you in advance, Mick Arundell I think I fixed that last year on my Xubuntu system by starting Lazarus as root. It needed root to update something. Once it updated something I could start it okay as a normal user from then on. Regards, Paul www.ControlPascal.com -- ___ lazarus mailing list lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org https://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Usage of Serial in a testing program?
On 09/23/2018 02:39 AM, Bo Berglund via Lazarus wrote: ... Notice that contrary to the wiki example adding a colon to the end like COM32: does NOT work so that is a wiki error. If I remember correctly the colon at the end is required for WinCE? -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org https://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Using a component OBJ file in Lazarus?
On 07/27/2018 02:36 AM, Bo Berglund via Lazarus wrote: ... And we have had lots of problems over the years with their dongle driver for Windows. Thankfully we've not experienced that. Thanks Bo for your comments! Regards, Paul www.ControlPascal.com -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org https://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Using a component OBJ file in Lazarus?
On 06/20/2018 01:54 AM, Bo Berglund via Lazarus wrote: On Wed, 13 Jun 2018 10:29:05 +0200, Michael Schnell via Lazarus wrote: On 12.06.2018 17:08, Sven Barth via Lazarus wrote: No. Delphi does *not* solve this by using dynamic linking. OK. I see. Thanks for pointing this out. Hence in such a (potentially problematic) case the suggested solution might be helpful even with Delphi. But as Bo's code seemingly works fin with Delphi, hopefully compiling the Dongle code into the Lazarus IDE will simply work as expected. I gave up on having the dongle as part of the IDE since simply creating the object in application code as needed is OK. It works in that setting so the OBJ file after conversion to CUFF format seems to be OK for the application even though Lazarus itself barfs at it. Not a real issue enymore. The concept of dropping a component on a form to use it is coming from when we started using Delphi a long time ago. And the non-visual components were dropped on a data module at the time. I need to use the *same* security dongle in Lazarus. I don't want to change to a different dongle. I'd like a few more details on how to create the object in application code. Any links to other discussion of this issue would be appreciated. Thanks *very* much Bo! -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org https://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Crosscompile to Android on arm?
On 07/25/2018 12:47 PM, Bo Berglund via Lazarus wrote: On Wed, 25 Jul 2018 11:47:06 -0400, Paul Breneman via Lazarus wrote: On 6/11/18 I wrote a message on this forum to you about a security dongle I need to use in Lazarus. I'll trade some work for that code! Since I could not make use of the OBJ file for the Sentinel Superpro dongle I started looking for dongle replacements and I got a sample from Keylok (a Keylok3 dongle) that has similar capabilities. Its main attraction is that it does not use a driver installed in the operating system, they say it is "driver-less". But instead they provide a dll to interface with the dongle via the operating system standard USB communications. As an alternative they also have OBJ library file solution which means that the interface will be included in ones own exe file, no dll needed. However they did not have an OBJ file for even Delphi7 for Keylok3... And an OBJ is probably dev IDE dependent too, so the dll is the only way to go if one needs FPC. I have tested it with Delphi7 (as a compatibility check, I expect my code to also run on Lazarus/Fpc) and it is simple enough to get going on Windows. But I put it on hold for the summer vacations... My project for the IoT stuff is private using ESP8266 based WiFi boards to monitor and report here and there around my home... So this is something I do now and then even in this temperature... Thanks for *all* of that info Bo. My favorite time in Sweden (in 1992) I visited the Vasa. Maybe if I visit again we can meet up? https://www.vasamuseet.se -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org https://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Crosscompile to Android on arm?
On 07/25/2018 12:32 PM, Bo Berglund via Lazarus wrote: On Wed, 25 Jul 2018 11:47:06 -0400, Paul Breneman via Lazarus wrote: You *hope* to compile a program *directly* on an Android phone with *little* effort? :) Did you read "Crosscompile" as compiling *on* android? I used cross to indicate that the compilation would be done elsewhere like on a regular PC but *targeting* Android. Yes, I should *finish* my coffee before writing emails! :) -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org https://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Crosscompile to Android on arm?
Sorry again Bo that I missed your *crosscompile* (multiple times)! I'm sure others can help you with that much better than I can. :) On 07/25/2018 12:24 PM, Paul Breneman via Lazarus wrote: Sorry that my Anaren link was bad. I haven't found my *old* development kit yet but this works better: https://www.anaren.com/catalog/wireless-transceivers/proprietary-rf My last message to you Bo: http://lists.lazarus-ide.org/pipermail/lazarus/2018-June/234962.html On 07/25/2018 11:47 AM, Paul Breneman via Lazarus wrote: On 07/25/2018 08:04 AM, Bo Berglund via Lazarus wrote: I have a GUI program developed in FPC/Lazarus x64 on Windows. It is an IoT device configuration application which would benefit from being portable, i.e. executable on an Android phone. The devices in question will be placed in locations where configuration would be easier from a phone. Before I start digging in to the multiple pages I have found on the fpc/Android subject I want to ask if it would be feasible to cross-compile my Windows application for Android phone use? I have used standard GUI controls in Lazarus for the visual parts and Indy10 (via indylaz) for the TCP/IP communications stuff. Any advice welcome! But if it turns out to be a learning path several weeks long it is probably not worth the effort... You *hope* to compile a program *directly* on an Android phone with *little* effort? :) You could possibly hire me (or other that I know). Or we could trade things? On 6/11/18 I wrote a message on this forum to you about a security dongle I need to use in Lazarus. I'll trade some work for that code! I've spent a bit of time investigating similar things: http://www.turbocontrol.com/userland.htm http://controlpascal.com/self-hosted.htm I got a couple of these kits several years ago: https://www.anaren.com/search/iot%20product%20bluetooth%20smart%20development%20kit A company who builds waterproof equipment could hopefully use inexpensive Android tablets occasionally to change equipment settings (a *lot* less expensive than adding waterproof user IO equipment to their gear). I'd enjoy hearing more ideas from others! Best regard, Paul www.ControlPascal.com -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org https://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Crosscompile to Android on arm?
Sorry that my Anaren link was bad. I haven't found my *old* development kit yet but this works better: https://www.anaren.com/catalog/wireless-transceivers/proprietary-rf My last message to you Bo: http://lists.lazarus-ide.org/pipermail/lazarus/2018-June/234962.html On 07/25/2018 11:47 AM, Paul Breneman via Lazarus wrote: On 07/25/2018 08:04 AM, Bo Berglund via Lazarus wrote: I have a GUI program developed in FPC/Lazarus x64 on Windows. It is an IoT device configuration application which would benefit from being portable, i.e. executable on an Android phone. The devices in question will be placed in locations where configuration would be easier from a phone. Before I start digging in to the multiple pages I have found on the fpc/Android subject I want to ask if it would be feasible to cross-compile my Windows application for Android phone use? I have used standard GUI controls in Lazarus for the visual parts and Indy10 (via indylaz) for the TCP/IP communications stuff. Any advice welcome! But if it turns out to be a learning path several weeks long it is probably not worth the effort... You *hope* to compile a program *directly* on an Android phone with *little* effort? :) You could possibly hire me (or other that I know). Or we could trade things? On 6/11/18 I wrote a message on this forum to you about a security dongle I need to use in Lazarus. I'll trade some work for that code! I've spent a bit of time investigating similar things: http://www.turbocontrol.com/userland.htm http://controlpascal.com/self-hosted.htm I got a couple of these kits several years ago: https://www.anaren.com/search/iot%20product%20bluetooth%20smart%20development%20kit A company who builds waterproof equipment could hopefully use inexpensive Android tablets occasionally to change equipment settings (a *lot* less expensive than adding waterproof user IO equipment to their gear). I'd enjoy hearing more ideas from others! Best regard, Paul www.ControlPascal.com -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org https://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Crosscompile to Android on arm?
On 07/25/2018 08:04 AM, Bo Berglund via Lazarus wrote: I have a GUI program developed in FPC/Lazarus x64 on Windows. It is an IoT device configuration application which would benefit from being portable, i.e. executable on an Android phone. The devices in question will be placed in locations where configuration would be easier from a phone. Before I start digging in to the multiple pages I have found on the fpc/Android subject I want to ask if it would be feasible to cross-compile my Windows application for Android phone use? I have used standard GUI controls in Lazarus for the visual parts and Indy10 (via indylaz) for the TCP/IP communications stuff. Any advice welcome! But if it turns out to be a learning path several weeks long it is probably not worth the effort... You *hope* to compile a program *directly* on an Android phone with *little* effort? :) You could possibly hire me (or other that I know). Or we could trade things? On 6/11/18 I wrote a message on this forum to you about a security dongle I need to use in Lazarus. I'll trade some work for that code! I've spent a bit of time investigating similar things: http://www.turbocontrol.com/userland.htm http://controlpascal.com/self-hosted.htm I got a couple of these kits several years ago: https://www.anaren.com/search/iot%20product%20bluetooth%20smart%20development%20kit A company who builds waterproof equipment could hopefully use inexpensive Android tablets occasionally to change equipment settings (a *lot* less expensive than adding waterproof user IO equipment to their gear). I'd enjoy hearing more ideas from others! Best regard, Paul www.ControlPascal.com -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org https://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus IDE on Android (ARM and x86_64)
A couple of days ago I loaded UserLAnd on my Moto Z2 Android phone. I then loaded fpc and got fpc 3.0.0 loaded for AArch64. I have this web page started: www.turbocontrol.com/userland.htm Please try UserLAnd and report back how it works for you. Hopefully you will get a 64-bit Debian 9. On 06/23/2018 06:54 AM, Mark Morgan Lloyd via Lazarus wrote: I'm aware of http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Custom_Drawn_Interface/Android and assume it's fairly current, but could somebody give me a quick summary of where Lazarus is when it comes to running the IDE etc. on a tablet? I'm in a situation elsewhere where I need to compare notes with a Kotlin developer. I'm able to run i386 FPC using Termux on x86_64 Android, but more sophisticated programs appear to have problems because libpthread/libdl has been rebundled. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org https://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Using a component OBJ file in Lazarus?
On 06/11/2018 03:03 PM, Bo Berglund via Lazarus wrote: On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 10:23:44 +0200, Michael Schnell via Lazarus wrote: On 10.06.2018 15:11, Bo Berglund via Lazarus wrote: ... Build IDE: Exit code 2, Errors: 23 ... You want to compile some 3rd party Dongle code in the IDE ? That is more than weired ! Sorry, I don't really know what you mean here... What is the reason for this comment? Unlike Delphi it seems like when one wants to add components to the development IDE palette in Lazarus one has actually to *rebuild* the IDE, there seems to be no otehr way... We have analysis software (developed in Delphi) that we sell and it is protected by the dongle. I am converting data acquisition software to Lazarus that uses the same dongle: http://forum.lazarus-ide.org/index.php/topic,40040.0.html Can I hire you Bo? -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org https://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Who is using Object Pascal in production?
On 10/28/2017 10:57 AM, Marcos Douglas B. Santos via Lazarus wrote: On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 9:58 PM, Daithi Haxton via Lazaruswrote: On Oct 27, 2017, at 8:26 AM, Marcos Douglas B. Santos via Lazarus wrote: I would like to propose a discussion about "What is the relevance of Object Pascal nowadays". I don't want waste your time. I just want to know if we are growing and being more relevant or not. We use Lazarus/Free Pascal to build all of our production applications. These are basically instrumentation packages and data loggers for large machines used in automotive manufacturing and quality control. It’s cross platform (Linux/Windows), fast and easy to use and maintain. I see many developers working with Object Pascal in similar cases: Machines, embedded, etc. That's really cool... However, is a kind of niche, right? Yes, but such niches are *nice* so if anyone wants to help out please join me: www.ControlPascal.com -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org https://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] linking error
On 06/02/2017 07:15 PM, Larry Dalton via Lazarus wrote: I just did a new install on my laptop. I installed 1.6.4-0_amd64.deb, with fpc-src_3.0.0-151205_amd64.deb, and fpc_3.0.0-151205_amd64.deb. The operating system is linux mint 17-2 cinnamon. All the packages compile, but when I try to install them or compile an application, I get an 'Error: Error while linking.' Where do I start to look? I'd suggest installing the binutils package. Regards, Paul www.ControlPascal.com -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org http://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Linux 64 to Linux ARC crosscompile was:Lazarus and Windows 10 IoT
On 03/30/2017 07:24 AM, LacaK via Lazarus wrote: Alternate solution to my modified question (Cross-compile from Windows to Linux/ARM): - Download FpcUpDeluxe executable from https://github.com/newpascal/fpcupdeluxe/releases (in my case 1.2.0m) - Run it and choose InstallDir (for example D:\TEMP\fpcupdeluxe) - Select FPC and Lazarus version (for example FPC 3.0.2 and Lazarus trunk) - Click "Install/update FPC+Laz" (FPC and Lazarus sources will be downloaded from SVN and build) - Then select CPU=arm, OS=Linix and click "Install cross-compiler" (cross-compiler and FPC unit will be compiled) It is easy and awesome! Thank you very much for FpcUp[Deluxe]! Unfortunately there is not mentioned on: http://wiki.freepascal.org/Lazarus_on_Raspberry_Pi#Cross_compiling_for_the_Raspberry_Pi_from_Windows and http://wiki.freepascal.org/fpcup#Linux_ARM_cross_compiler , that this whole process is covered by FpcUpDeluxe and user is not required do anything manualy ;-) P.S.1 Only drawback, which I faced is, that I can not build current stable release of FPC 3.0.2 and Lazarus 1.6.4 using FpcUpDeluxe (fpcupdeluxe-i386-win32.exe on Win8.1 64bit) Program freezes and last entry in log is: Lazarus: lazbuild could not be found, so cannot build USERIDE. (configuration which works for me is FPC 3.0.2 + Lazarus trunk) P.S.2 Interesting idea would be create utility which will build only cross-compilers based on FPC already installed (like does FpcUpDeluxe but without need/overhead of SVN checkout and Lazarus build functionality). May be only ZIP archive with needed utilities + script which will do needed tasks. Thank you *very* much for that information! If no one else does, I'll try to update those two wiki pages, and also this one: http://wiki.freepascal.org/Small_Virtual_Machines Best regards, Paul www.ControlPascal.com -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org http://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Teaching Pascal at College
On 10/27/2016 11:15 AM, Paul Breneman via Lazarus wrote: On 10/25/2016 11:23 AM, Travis Ayres via Lazarus wrote: So...who wants to work on a modern course outline with me? We have a lot of opinions and people willing to chime in, maybe we can do something good for the community? Some suggestions: 1) As the OP wrote (in a later message) "All my students will be civil, environmental or bio engineers but not computer engineers", I would recommend checking out SoftwareCarpentry.org (see links on home page www.ControlPascal.com ) which has been teaching basic programming to non-programmer engineers since 1998. They've already done a *lot* of work that doesn't need to be repeated! But a pascal version would be nice. 2) I just purchased the least expensive PicoScope which I hope to combine with the Basic Stamp kit (see top of this page): http://www.controlpascal.com/tutorial.htm Instant gratification (blinking LEDs, switches to push) has worked for me and others. One of my favorite college courses (in about 1981) combined programming and electronics, and after that I decided to jump into embedded programming (previously I did electronic work). Regards, Paul I just added a link (to a recent magazine article on using a scope to "see" Arduino timing) to the top of this page: http://controlpascal.com/tutorial.htm Just trying to help increase embedded and hobby electronic use of Free Pascal! :) -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org http://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Teaching Pascal at College
On 10/25/2016 11:23 AM, Travis Ayres via Lazarus wrote: So...who wants to work on a modern course outline with me? We have a lot of opinions and people willing to chime in, maybe we can do something good for the community? Some suggestions: 1) As the OP wrote (in a later message) "All my students will be civil, environmental or bio engineers but not computer engineers", I would recommend checking out SoftwareCarpentry.org (see links on home page www.ControlPascal.com ) which has been teaching basic programming to non-programmer engineers since 1998. They've already done a *lot* of work that doesn't need to be repeated! But a pascal version would be nice. 2) I just purchased the least expensive PicoScope which I hope to combine with the Basic Stamp kit (see top of this page): http://www.controlpascal.com/tutorial.htm Instant gratification (blinking LEDs, switches to push) has worked for me and others. One of my favorite college courses (in about 1981) combined programming and electronics, and after that I decided to jump into embedded programming (previously I did electronic work). Regards, Paul -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org http://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Teaching Pascal at College
On 10/13/2016 05:13 PM, Erwin van den Bosch via Lazarus wrote: ... Another problem with the RAD way is that a lot is stored in forms (.lfm files) and it's difficult to see/notice changes to those files. They can be very big and it's difficult to see if some control is missing, for example, an event or so. The Lazarus IDE does frequently change the properties of controls on the form. For example the width and the height properties frequently change with no reason as it seems. As specially when you do development on both Windows and Linux. That makes tracking code changes (and so potential new bugs) not very easy. Regards, Erwin I've used Beyond Compare since (about) 1995 to always compare my form files. Here is a related topic: Cleaning up the Delphi uses statements http://brenemanlabs.com/Uses.htm Regards, Paul www.ControlPascal.com -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org http://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Teaching Pascal at College
On 10/12/2016 01:10 PM, Adrian De Armas via Lazarus wrote: Hello everyone, I am a professor of "introduction to programming". Currently we are working with matlab and c. Today I had a meeting about doing the module more interesting to the students. Currently we teach algorithms making console applications and usually I receive questions like "Why don't we do something more modern?". I recommended that we should use Pascal in General and Lazarus in particular to teach how to create rich GUI Applications and to my surprise the idea was well recieved. Now I have to make suggestions about how to prepare the module starting from zero. Students do not know how to program and I need to include subjects as: variable declaration, operations, if, while, for, functions and procedure, arrays and multidimensional arrays. I would love to know what you think about making the transition from console to GUI. This is an exciting opportunity I'd love to make it right. As an electrical engineer (starting study at age 14) I've always enjoyed learning programming when it is *combined* with hardware. There are links to two such projects at the top of this page: http://controlpascal.com/tutorial.htm There is a link near the bottom of that page to *ideU* which might be one way to transition from console to GUI. Please keep us informed about how things progress! Regard, Paul -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org http://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] that's surprised me a lot
I've used AuthSMTP for years to send all of my email to avoid black list problems. On 10/01/2016 11:01 AM, Josh via Lazarus wrote: Hi Sounds like backscatter mail; Sender is spoofing your email; as long as you have valid spf, and dkim for the sending domain the spoofed email should be picked up by most well configured mail server as not originating from sender and not deliver; sometimes the mail server may send a message back to your server informing you that an email was received that failed spf and dkim and was not delivered. An analogy would be somebody sending a letter to an unknown person and placing your home address as the sender on the envelope; the person it was sent to opens it; and send back 'return to sender'; you then get the letter as your home address is on the letter,having not sent it in the first place, very annoying. Sometimes an email or domain can be attacked in this way to send out spam/viruses etc, and by having valid spf/dkim etc should reduce the possibility of this happening; however one thing that you will need to check regularly is that you do not get black listed use something like mxtoolbox to check your domain is not black listed; as if your getting attacked in this way and spam/viruses are 'appearing' to come from your domain; mail servers can be configured to auto report this activity to the likes of protected sky etc causing a blacklisting; once your blacklisted you will have problems sending to the likes of hotmail,gmail,aol,yahoo etc as well as company mail servers that use these blacklisting services as blacklist filters. if you getting problems sending to gmail/yahoo/hotmail,outlook, live etc. Make sure that you have signed up to the bulk mail sending service ( or something like that; it is specific to each one so may take some googling) so that they do not block you dead; hotmail,outlook,live etc if you get black listed can take some time to get cleared as it is not automated and is done by human and you will have to jump through some hoops to clear it. I come across this a lot; it seems to have escalated in the last 6 months. I have one mail server that is only confirming less than 0.2% as valid emails a months; the rest 99.8% is backscatter/spoofed emails; that you have no control over as you have not sent them. On this one server it was getting blacklisted twice a week; I even took the server down for a 2 week period; and it was getting blacklisted during this period. Just food for thought. Might be of use. -Original Message- From: Sascha Hestermann via Lazarus Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 4:02 PM To: Lazarus mailing list Cc: Sascha Hestermann Subject: Re: [Lazarus] that's surprised me a lot Am 01.10.2016 um 13:48 schrieb Shaun via Lazarus: sorry to inform you but the link leads to a scam site that has been doing the rounds for quite some time. That's indeed a spam mail and it wasn't sent by me. As far as I can tell they faked the sender and used my name and mail address. Looking as the source code of the mail reveals it was sent by 109241132252.raciborz.vectranet.pl via mailhost.mobimail.mobitelnet.lk, so no Gmx was involved. Since a few month I have seen several of such mails and also get "Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender" mail from time to time for mails I did not sent. I don't think I can do anything about that as the mails are neither send by me nor by my computer. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org http://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus