Re: [OT] Re: [lazarus] Temperary FTP Speace
Danny Milosavljevic wrote: I'm not familiar with the process. I know you can make hydrogen from water, by dissecting water into pieces through electrolysis. Yeah, that method sucks :) I'd use http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haber_process since there it's a leftover resulting H component anyways... I wonder what they are doing with all the hydrogen resulting from that right now :) That doesn't make sense at all. The 'left-over' is strange, as the numbers for H do not add up. Besides, you're going to produce hydrogen by starting with 3 hydrogen molecules and having one 'left-over' hydrogen atom ? That's not a net-gain in hydrogen you know ;-) Micha _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [OT] Re: [lazarus] Temperary FTP Speace
L505 ha scritto: [...] In brazil they already use sugar as their source of fuel. There is already infrastructure for sugar/alcohol powered cars. Brazil uses them. The oil companies don't want this. Anyone think an oil company wants to go out of business and buy all the technology from Brazil? Make brazil a rich country? Convert all out existing oil/gas cars to sugar ones? [...] Be careful. Don't let the new spread too much. If Mr. George Bush learns about that, he might be tempted to bring demoracy to Brazil. ;-) _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [OT] Re: [lazarus] Temperary FTP Speace
Hi, Am Montag, den 10.04.2006, 10:01 +0200 schrieb Micha Nelissen: Danny Milosavljevic wrote: I'm not familiar with the process. I know you can make hydrogen from water, by dissecting water into pieces through electrolysis. Yeah, that method sucks :) I'd use http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haber_process since there it's a leftover resulting H component anyways... I wonder what they are doing with all the hydrogen resulting from that right now :) That doesn't make sense at all. The 'left-over' is strange, as the numbers for H do not add up. Besides, you're going to produce hydrogen by starting with 3 hydrogen molecules and having one 'left-over' hydrogen atom ? That's not a net-gain in hydrogen you know ;-) yeah, my bad... I shouldn't talk about stuff I have no clue about :) cheers, Danny _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [OT] Re: [lazarus] Temperary FTP Speace
There is no excuse for Oil being a raw material needed to ship food No, there isn't. Which is why those who can are switching to gas (which, lo and behold, farmers can produce that themselves) and hydrogen and trains anyways. The only problem is the lag of the infrastructure, that is, inertia. But that wasn't the point, I see. And as for hydrogen: how do you make hydrogen? By using energy to first get the hydrogen? I'm not familiar with the process. I know you can make hydrogen from water, by dissecting water into pieces through electrolysis. But this costs you energy - the electricity that it takes to make hydrogen may be more than what you are in fact getting OUT of the hydrogen that you produce. I'm not sure though. Then again, it does cost us money to run oil rigs and etc. - and we do get more oil out of the ground than it costs us to retrieve the oil. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [OT] Re: [lazarus] Temperary FTP Speace
Hi, Am Sonntag, den 09.04.2006, 14:17 -0600 schrieb L505: There is no excuse for Oil being a raw material needed to ship food No, there isn't. Which is why those who can are switching to gas (which, lo and behold, farmers can produce that themselves) and hydrogen and trains anyways. The only problem is the lag of the infrastructure, that is, inertia. But that wasn't the point, I see. And as for hydrogen: how do you make hydrogen? By using energy to first get the hydrogen? I'm not familiar with the process. I know you can make hydrogen from water, by dissecting water into pieces through electrolysis. Yeah, that method sucks :) I'd use http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haber_process since there it's a leftover resulting H component anyways... I wonder what they are doing with all the hydrogen resulting from that right now :) But this costs you energy - the electricity that it takes to make hydrogen may be more than what you are in fact getting OUT of the hydrogen that you produce. I'm not sure though. Then again, it does cost us money to run oil rigs and etc. - and we do get more oil out of the ground than it costs us to retrieve the oil. cheers, Danny _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
[OT] Re: [lazarus] Temperary FTP Speace
Hi, Am Freitag, den 07.04.2006, 18:45 -0600 schrieb L505: Thank you, but I appreciate the freedom and the power of open source ;-) Also, I can't see anything wrong in spending US$10 on something minimally important, why is it? No problem at all - I would spend $10-$20 on a I Love Freepascal t-shirt, for example. Remember: free software is about freedom, not price. Of course monetary cost can be and usually is a form of restricting freedom, but nothing if absolutely free. Oh I wrote about these issues before.. I know what you are saying. http://z505.com/cgi-bin/qkcont/qkcont.cgi?p=Open-Source-Service-Scared-Him Warning: don't read paswiki if you have a busy day. Takes a long time to wade through all the rants on that site. comments on the wiki entry Open Source Service Scared Him: The one who wrote that pamphlet sure hasn't been a farmer. Food is easily replicative, what a joke. Any idea how hard it is? All farming methods, crop tricks, etc. should be shared among farmers Of course, it is unethical not to. If one doesn't share the tricks and someone else messes up and causes half of the population of the country to starve to death because the harvest is ruined, then one must _really_ like killing people. What a bad example the food example was. There is no excuse for Oil being a raw material needed to ship food No, there isn't. Which is why those who can are switching to gas (which, lo and behold, farmers can produce that themselves) and hydrogen and trains anyways. The only problem is the lag of the infrastructure, that is, inertia. But that wasn't the point, I see. '..but what are farmers going to do for a living? How are they going to continue to pay their bills if there are always helpful open source farmers working on free (as in speech and open source) food crops?' If nobody works on maintaining soil, most of us are dead. Hence someone does. So it's a strange idea to have in the first place. And how would he not get paid for doing *actual* work? But he shouldn't get paid for the selfless service of keeping tricks secret and causing half the population to die, obviously. And there is such a thing as too much work to handle for one place. Software is different in that 1) it's very easy to write, I can write working new apps in a _week_ 2) it requires peer review to be any good / secure / trustable 3) it's easily copied at almost no cost and time at all, it's like you had a star-trek replicator that clones whatever food you want, and additionally, takes almost no time and energy to create an identical clone. (*especially* 2)) Are you telling me 400 hours of software work is easily replicative? No, but the result is. The work is paid. Copying the result isn't. How about the fact that food requires no maintenance with regards to system administration? It does, tons of it. So hard that you need generations of knowledge just to know how to do it. There are advantages with other materials than just software. Just because software can be copied easily, does not mean it can be maintained easily. It doesn't need to be maintained at all, if there are no changes in requirements. if there *are* changes in requirements, someone that did those is going to pay someone to change the software or do it himself. Oh yes, the real world is different and not made of candy. Yes :) Software doesn't go bad. I use programs I/someone else wrote years ago without having to do any changes. The major reason for the stinted view that open source programmers carry along with them, is that they must get paid money some how. They feel, that the software can be free, but something just can't. Money? Free? how are those related? O_o I don't need to charge extortion money, I got enough real work to do to keep me busy for the next three lives. Of course I don't get filthy rich but I sure sleep better. Note that I actually am _against_ working without getting something out of it (Not neccessarily money though). But the many things I do write without getting money for them (search google) take _forever_ and then some to complete. But they get done. Eventually. cheers, Danny Actually I recently started a split utility project (compiles in both FPC and Delphi) that let's me resume the split later. Problem is a 10GB file won't fit on a CD, so you have to pause the splitting process and resume it later, after entering the second CD in the drive. (my hard drive was too full to have the file split on it first before going on to the CD). Not done the joining utility yet though. There're tons of such utilities already. I spent a few minutes on google trying to find one that had resume capabilities or stop and let me insert next CD-ROM capabilities but couldn't find one.. I don't know what this feature is called? If you know of a utility let me know. The ones I tried just split the files into one directory without pausing inbetween. Anyway it was fun
