Re: [Ldsoss] Wards and Stakes
in my former ward the Bishop set up a yahoo group On 9/5/07, Neeland, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I created a gmail account and added that address to the main page for our ward website. The gmail account is setup to forward all incoming mails to the mailbox I stare at all day, so I'm usually pretty timely with responses. We have received many messages to that address and because of it have made it easier for people moving into our area (or considering) to get info. I also added comments on the main page that have contact info to our EQ president. I'd rather he get any incoming questions and filter those (if any) that need to go to the Bishop. I'll take advantage of any freeform fields I can Steve Neeland Mount Juliet Ward https://secure.lds.org/units/home/0,9781,600-1-7-240583,00.html From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Pringle Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 10:11 AM To: ldsoss e-mail list Subject: Re: [Ldsoss] Wards and Stakes My biggest complaint about the current setup of stake and ward sites is that is doesn't let members from outside the stake get any contact data. For example, I have a friend who was recently baptized and going away to college. I was able to find what ward he would be in, but there was no real contact data, only the office phone number. I don't know about you, but I've seen those answering machines sit around for weeks if not months before anybody thinks to check them for messages. I run the web sites for my home ward and the branch my wife I are assigned to, and I have my e-mail address on the front page so that people can contact me if they need information. I usually get one or two contacts a month, maybe more during student move-in season. It can be very frustrating if you have to deal with letters and phone calls that will at best be returned the following week. IMHO, if a member is logged in, they should be able to access the Bishopric and EQ/HP/RS presidency of any unit. Even if it is just a link that will allow them to send an e-mail without knowing what e-mail address it is going to would be better than the current situation. -- Bill Pringle [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://BillPringle.com http://CherylWheeler.com http://weather.unisys.com ___ Ldsoss mailing list Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss -- Clinton lied and nobody died? Tell that to the comrades and kin of 19 US Soldiers who were KIA in Mogadishu, Somalia on 03 October 1993. ___ Ldsoss mailing list Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss
Re: [Ldsoss] Wards and Stakes
You may want to read this first
(http://www.lds.org/portal/site/LDSOrg/menuitem.702d7c3d14dbbb5538da4135f1e5
43a0/?vgnextoid=897f8a4948743010VgnVCM101f5e340aRCRD
http://www.lds.org/portal/site/LDSOrg/menuitem.702d7c3d14dbbb5538da4135f1e5
43a0/?vgnextoid=897f8a4948743010VgnVCM101f5e340aRCRDlocale=0
locale=0).
The URL's kind of long, but it is the church's Rights and Use Information
statement.
Here is the privacy information statement
(http://www.lds.org/library/display/0,4945,5167-1-2681-1,00.html?)
Steve
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jesse Stay
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 11:49 PM
To: LDS Open Source Software
Subject: [Ldsoss] Wards and Stakes
I was just curious if anyone has scraped the Wards and Stakes off of LDS.org
already that might be willing to share it with me? I'm looking to use this
data on the Facebook LDS App, and figured before writing the scraper myself
I'd see if it has been done before.
Jesse
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Re: [Ldsoss] Wards and Stakes
Thanks Steve. For the moment, it's for non-commercial use so if I read that
right it should be okay. I might want to approach it differently though, in
case any of it does become commercial. It would be really cool if the
church could just provide the ward and stake unit data (not member data -
only the names of wards and stakes) for free use - there can be a lot of
good, wholesome applications built around that data, commercial or not.
Jesse
On 9/5/07, Steven H. McCown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You may want to read this first (
http://www.lds.org/portal/site/LDSOrg/menuitem.702d7c3d14dbbb5538da4135f1e543a0/?vgnextoid=897f8a4948743010VgnVCM101f5e340aRCRDlocale=0
).
The URL's kind of long, but it is the church's Rights and Use
Information statement.
Here is the privacy information statement (
http://www.lds.org/library/display/0,4945,5167-1-2681-1,00.html?)
Steve
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*To:* LDS Open Source Software
*Subject:* [Ldsoss] Wards and Stakes
I was just curious if anyone has scraped the Wards and Stakes off of
LDS.org already that might be willing to share it with me? I'm looking to
use this data on the Facebook LDS App, and figured before writing the
scraper myself I'd see if it has been done before.
Jesse
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Re: [Ldsoss] Wards and Stakes
What is LUWS Data?
Jesse
On 9/5/07, Tom Welch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm not sure what the Facebook LDS App is but you must be careful not
to take LUWS data and post on 3rd party web sites. This data is for your
personal consumption only.
Tom
On Wed, Sep 5, 2007 at 7:14 AM, in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED], Jesse Stay
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks Steve. For the moment, it's for non-commercial use so if I read
that right it should be okay. I might want to approach it differently
though, in case any of it does become commercial. It would be really cool
if the church could just provide the ward and stake unit data (not member
data - only the names of wards and stakes) for free use - there can be a lot
of good, wholesome applications built around that data, commercial or not.
Jesse
On 9/5/07, Steven H. McCown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You may want to read this first (
http://www.lds.org/portal/site/LDSOrg/menuitem.702d7c3d14dbbb5538da4135f1e543a0/?vgnextoid=897f8a4948743010VgnVCM101f5e340aRCRDlocale=0).
The URL's kind of long, but it is the church's Rights and Use
Information statement.
Here is the privacy information statement (
http://www.lds.org/library/display/0,4945,5167-1-2681-1,00.html?)
Steve
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Jesse Stay
Sent:
Tuesday, September 04, 2007 11:49 PM
To:
LDS Open Source Software
Subject:
[Ldsoss] Wards and Stakes
I was just curious if anyone has scraped the Wards and Stakes off of
LDS.org already that might be willing to share it with me? I'm looking
to use this data on the Facebook LDS App, and figured before writing the
scraper myself I'd see if it has been done before.
Jesse
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Re: [Ldsoss] Wards and Stakes
LUWS is the Local Unit Web Sites or the ward web sites that hang off of
lds.org.
Tom
Jesse Stay wrote:
What is LUWS Data?
Jesse
On 9/5/07, *Tom Welch* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm not sure what the Facebook LDS App is but you must be
careful not to take LUWS data and post on 3rd party web sites.
This data is for your personal consumption only.
Tom
On Wed, Sep 5, 2007 at 7:14 AM, in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Jesse Stay [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks Steve. For the moment, it's for non-commercial use so if I
read that right it should be okay. I might want to approach it
differently though, in case any of it does become commercial. It
would be really cool if the church could just provide the ward and
stake unit data (not member data - only the names of wards and
stakes) for free use - there can be a lot of good, wholesome
applications built around that data, commercial or not.
Jesse
On 9/5/07, *Steven H. McCown* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You may want to read this first (
http://www.lds.org/portal/site/LDSOrg/menuitem.702d7c3d14dbbb5538da4135f1e543a0/?vgnextoid=897f8a4948743010VgnVCM101f5e340aRCRDlocale=0
http://www.lds.org/portal/site/LDSOrg/menuitem.702d7c3d14dbbb5538da4135f1e543a0/?vgnextoid=897f8a4948743010VgnVCM101f5e340aRCRDlocale=0).
The URL's kind of long, but it is the church's Rights and Use
Information statement.
Here is the privacy information statement
(http://www.lds.org/library/display/0,4945,5167-1-2681-1,00.html
http://www.lds.org/library/display/0,4945,5167-1-2681-1,00.html?)
Steve
From:
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of
Jesse Stay
Sent:
Tuesday, September 04, 2007 11:49 PM
To:
LDS Open Source Software
Subject:
[Ldsoss] Wards and Stakes
I was just curious if anyone has scraped the Wards and Stakes
off of LDS.org already that might be willing to share it with
me? I'm looking to use this data on the Facebook LDS App, and
figured before writing the scraper myself I'd see if it has
been done before.
Jesse
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Re: [Ldsoss] Wards and Stakes
My biggest complaint about the current setup of stake and ward sites is that is doesn't let members from outside the stake get any contact data. For example, I have a friend who was recently baptized and going away to college. I was able to find what ward he would be in, but there was no real contact data, only the office phone number. I don't know about you, but I've seen those answering machines sit around for weeks if not months before anybody thinks to check them for messages. I run the web sites for my home ward and the branch my wife I are assigned to, and I have my e-mail address on the front page so that people can contact me if they need information. I usually get one or two contacts a month, maybe more during student move-in season. It can be very frustrating if you have to deal with letters and phone calls that will at best be returned the following week. IMHO, if a member is logged in, they should be able to access the Bishopric and EQ/HP/RS presidency of any unit. Even if it is just a link that will allow them to send an e-mail without knowing what e-mail address it is going to would be better than the current situation. -- Bill Pringle [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://BillPringle.com http://CherylWheeler.com http://weather.unisys.com ___ Ldsoss mailing list Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss
Re: [Ldsoss] Wards and Stakes
I created a gmail account and added that address to the main page for our ward website. The gmail account is setup to forward all incoming mails to the mailbox I stare at all day, so I'm usually pretty timely with responses. We have received many messages to that address and because of it have made it easier for people moving into our area (or considering) to get info. I also added comments on the main page that have contact info to our EQ president. I'd rather he get any incoming questions and filter those (if any) that need to go to the Bishop. I'll take advantage of any freeform fields I can Steve Neeland Mount Juliet Ward https://secure.lds.org/units/home/0,9781,600-1-7-240583,00.html From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Pringle Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 10:11 AM To: ldsoss e-mail list Subject: Re: [Ldsoss] Wards and Stakes My biggest complaint about the current setup of stake and ward sites is that is doesn't let members from outside the stake get any contact data. For example, I have a friend who was recently baptized and going away to college. I was able to find what ward he would be in, but there was no real contact data, only the office phone number. I don't know about you, but I've seen those answering machines sit around for weeks if not months before anybody thinks to check them for messages. I run the web sites for my home ward and the branch my wife I are assigned to, and I have my e-mail address on the front page so that people can contact me if they need information. I usually get one or two contacts a month, maybe more during student move-in season. It can be very frustrating if you have to deal with letters and phone calls that will at best be returned the following week. IMHO, if a member is logged in, they should be able to access the Bishopric and EQ/HP/RS presidency of any unit. Even if it is just a link that will allow them to send an e-mail without knowing what e-mail address it is going to would be better than the current situation. -- Bill Pringle [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://BillPringle.com http://CherylWheeler.com http://weather.unisys.com ___ Ldsoss mailing list Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss
Re: [Ldsoss] Wards and Stakes
On 9/5/07, Jesse Stay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So what about just Ward and Stake Names (and countries)? I'd like to scrape the Ward, Stake, and Country data from http://www.mormon.org/worshipwithus (unit names only from that url, no membership or other data at all) and store the Wards, Stakes, The rights and use section of that website says, in part: You may view, download, and print material from this site only for your personal, noncommercial use unless otherwise indicated. I think you are missing the personal part here. I see this as meaning that I can view, download, and print material from that site for my personal use, not the use of others. Thad ___ Ldsoss mailing list Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss
Re: [Ldsoss] Wards and Stakes
Or you could just let people freeform type the names of wards they have been
in, with help from an ajax autocomplete dropdown. Users will enter all the data
you need, wiki style. An official list might not be good enough anyway, because
wards split and join, change names, etc.
-Original Message-
From: Jesse Stay [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 09:51:12
To:LDS Open Source Software ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org
Subject: Re: [Ldsoss] Wards and Stakes
So what about just Ward and Stake Names (and countries)? I'd like to scrape
the Ward, Stake, and Country data from http://www.mormon.org/worshipwithus
http://www.mormon.org/worshipwithus (unit names only from that url, no
membership or other data at all) and store the Wards, Stakes, and Countries in
some sort of parseable data file for others to use. My desire is to have users
of the LDS Facebook App to be able to choose previous Wards and Stakes that
they have been in, and find old friends that are also on Facebook that have
also been in those Wards and Stakes at the same time. Would the Church be ok
with this? Do I need to get written approval to do this - it seems your EULA
doesn't want this to happen since I would be gathering data from the site.
The Church should really look into writing a few Facebook apps of their own.
There are some excellent missionary opportunities there with an entire access
to an API of linked friends. It's the ultimate member missionary opportunity!
Of course, my LDS App will also do the same thing. :-)
Jesse
On 9/5/07, Tom Welch [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
LUWS is the Local Unit Web Sites or the ward web sites that hang off of
lds.org http://lds.org .
Tom
Jesse Stay wrote:
What is LUWS Data?
Jesse
On 9/5/07, Tom Welch [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm not sure what the Facebook LDS App is but you must be careful not to
take LUWS data and post on 3rd party web sites. This data is for your personal
consumption only.
Tom
On Wed, Sep 5, 2007 at 7:14 AM, in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] , Jesse Stay [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks Steve. For the moment, it's for non-commercial use so if I read that
right it should be okay. I might want to approach it differently though, in
case any of it does become commercial. It would be really cool if the church
could just provide the ward and stake unit data (not member data - only the
names of wards and stakes) for free use - there can be a lot of good, wholesome
applications built around that data, commercial or not.
Jesse
On 9/5/07, Steven H. McCown
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You may want to read this first (
http://www.lds.org/portal/site/LDSOrg/menuitem.702d7c3d14dbbb5538da4135f1e543a0/?vgnextoid=897f8a4948743010VgnVCM101f5e340aRCRDamp;locale=0
http://www.lds.org/portal/site/LDSOrg/menuitem.702d7c3d14dbbb5538da4135f1e543a0/?vgnextoid=897f8a4948743010VgnVCM101f5e340aRCRDamp;locale=0
).
The URL's kind of long, but it is the church's Rights and Use Information
statement.
Here is the privacy information statement
(http://www.lds.org/library/display/0,4945,5167-1-2681-1,00.html
http://www.lds.org/library/display/0,4945,5167-1-2681-1,00.html ?)
Steve
From:
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On Behalf Of
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Sent:
Tuesday, September 04, 2007 11:49 PM
To:
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Subject:
[Ldsoss] Wards and Stakes
I was just curious if anyone has scraped the Wards and Stakes off of LDS.org
already that might be willing to share it with me? I'm looking to use this
data on the Facebook LDS App, and figured before writing the scraper myself I'd
see if it has been done before.
Jesse
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Re: [Ldsoss] Wards and Stakes
Or you could just let people freeform type the names of wards they have been
in, with help from an ajax autocomplete dropdown. Users will enter all the data
you need, wiki style. An official list might not be good enough anyway, because
wards split and join, change names, etc.
-Original Message-
From: Jesse Stay [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 09:51:12
To:LDS Open Source Software ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org
Subject: Re: [Ldsoss] Wards and Stakes
So what about just Ward and Stake Names (and countries)? I'd like to scrape
the Ward, Stake, and Country data from http://www.mormon.org/worshipwithus
http://www.mormon.org/worshipwithus (unit names only from that url, no
membership or other data at all) and store the Wards, Stakes, and Countries in
some sort of parseable data file for others to use. My desire is to have users
of the LDS Facebook App to be able to choose previous Wards and Stakes that
they have been in, and find old friends that are also on Facebook that have
also been in those Wards and Stakes at the same time. Would the Church be ok
with this? Do I need to get written approval to do this - it seems your EULA
doesn't want this to happen since I would be gathering data from the site.
The Church should really look into writing a few Facebook apps of their own.
There are some excellent missionary opportunities there with an entire access
to an API of linked friends. It's the ultimate member missionary opportunity!
Of course, my LDS App will also do the same thing. :-)
Jesse
On 9/5/07, Tom Welch [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
LUWS is the Local Unit Web Sites or the ward web sites that hang off of
lds.org http://lds.org .
Tom
Jesse Stay wrote:
What is LUWS Data?
Jesse
On 9/5/07, Tom Welch [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm not sure what the Facebook LDS App is but you must be careful not to
take LUWS data and post on 3rd party web sites. This data is for your personal
consumption only.
Tom
On Wed, Sep 5, 2007 at 7:14 AM, in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] , Jesse Stay [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks Steve. For the moment, it's for non-commercial use so if I read that
right it should be okay. I might want to approach it differently though, in
case any of it does become commercial. It would be really cool if the church
could just provide the ward and stake unit data (not member data - only the
names of wards and stakes) for free use - there can be a lot of good, wholesome
applications built around that data, commercial or not.
Jesse
On 9/5/07, Steven H. McCown
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You may want to read this first (
http://www.lds.org/portal/site/LDSOrg/menuitem.702d7c3d14dbbb5538da4135f1e543a0/?vgnextoid=897f8a4948743010VgnVCM101f5e340aRCRDamp;locale=0
http://www.lds.org/portal/site/LDSOrg/menuitem.702d7c3d14dbbb5538da4135f1e543a0/?vgnextoid=897f8a4948743010VgnVCM101f5e340aRCRDamp;locale=0
).
The URL's kind of long, but it is the church's Rights and Use Information
statement.
Here is the privacy information statement
(http://www.lds.org/library/display/0,4945,5167-1-2681-1,00.html
http://www.lds.org/library/display/0,4945,5167-1-2681-1,00.html ?)
Steve
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[Ldsoss] Wards and Stakes
I was just curious if anyone has scraped the Wards and Stakes off of LDS.org
already that might be willing to share it with me? I'm looking to use this
data on the Facebook LDS App, and figured before writing the scraper myself I'd
see if it has been done before.
Jesse
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Re: [Ldsoss] Wards and Stakes
On 9/5/07, Thad Van Ry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The rights and use section of that website says, in part:
You may view, download, and print material from this site only for
your personal, noncommercial use unless otherwise indicated.
I think you are missing the personal part here. I see this as meaning
that I can view, download, and print material from that site for my
personal use, not the use of others.
Thad
I am curious, though, the reasoning for protecting just the names of the
Wards and Stakes? Is anyone aware of why this would be protected outside of
personal use? I understand personal data, but I would think allowing
publication of Ward and Stakes, and even locations would be beneficial in
spreading the word even further on where your local LDS congregation meets.
Is there a file anywhere I can get this from without violating the Church's
EULA through scraping Mormon.org? My only other option is to have users
type in their Wards and Stakes, which bring in chances for inaccuracies.
Jesse
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Re: [Ldsoss] Wards and Stakes
Jesse Stay wrote: I am curious, though, the reasoning for protecting just the names of the Wards and Stakes? Is anyone aware of why this would be protected outside of personal use? I understand personal data, but I would think allowing publication of Ward and Stakes, and even locations would be beneficial in spreading the word even further on where your local LDS congregation meets. Is there a file anywhere I can get this from without violating the Church's EULA through scraping Mormon.org http://Mormon.org? My only other option is to have users type in their Wards and Stakes, which bring in chances for inaccuracies. It is very difficult to anticipate all of the types of data and uses that people can think of when wanting to use data generated by the Church. I don't know if the Church would have a problem using the ward and stake names data but I would recommend that you contact the membership department to find out. Tom -- NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message.___ Ldsoss mailing list Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss
Re: [Ldsoss] Wards and Stakes
Hi Jesse, I can't speak for the Church as a whole, but I know that in the Netherlands the Church would have to get permission of each individual (bishop, stake president, etceteras) involved to post any information about name and telephone number on a publicly accessible website because of local privacy laws. Note that whenever I moved I just asked my local bishop which ward/stake I would be in and I would request the phone number from them. And I never had a problem getting it. Manfred From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Welch Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 2:48 PM To: LDS Open Source Software Subject: Re: [Ldsoss] Wards and Stakes Jesse Stay wrote: I am curious, though, the reasoning for protecting just the names of the Wards and Stakes? Is anyone aware of why this would be protected outside of personal use? I understand personal data, but I would think allowing publication of Ward and Stakes, and even locations would be beneficial in spreading the word even further on where your local LDS congregation meets. Is there a file anywhere I can get this from without violating the Church's EULA through scraping Mormon.org? My only other option is to have users type in their Wards and Stakes, which bring in chances for inaccuracies. It is very difficult to anticipate all of the types of data and uses that people can think of when wanting to use data generated by the Church. I don't know if the Church would have a problem using the ward and stake names data but I would recommend that you contact the membership department to find out. Tom _ NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. ___ Ldsoss mailing list Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss
[Ldsoss] Wards and Stakes
I was just curious if anyone has scraped the Wards and Stakes off of
LDS.orgalready that might be willing to share it with me? I'm looking
to use this
data on the Facebook LDS App, and figured before writing the scraper myself
I'd see if it has been done before.
Jesse
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