Re: [Ldsoss] Software for people who can't use MLS?
Very much just like Excel, if I may add. My wife didn't utter a word when I switched on her.
since it works just like Excel.
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Re: [Ldsoss] Software for people who can't use MLS?
On 9/8/06, Slide <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
While I agree it has to do with clerking, I was looking for an opensource solution, that is why I brought it up here, but I will checkwith them as well. Thanks :)He might have success with GNUCash - that can be pretty flexible. Your other option is always OpenOffice, which would work on Windows, and he'd be pretty familiar with since it works just like Excel.
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Re: [Ldsoss] Software for people who can't use MLS?
I am currently the ward clerk in the English ward in Taiwan. We are still submitting tithing and membership related issues by hand to the Taiwan Church records office. They have two people there that manage all the units for the island. The word is Hong Kong has been pushing it out to the units there as a test. Taiwan should begin to bring it to each unit here by the beginning of next year. I know of at least one other branch clerk in the Asian area that is using Filemaker to manage his unit's membership records and tithing. Joshua Lee ___ Ldsoss mailing list Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss
Re: [Ldsoss] Software for people who can't use MLS?
While I agree it has to do with clerking, I was looking for an open source solution, that is why I brought it up here, but I will check with them as well. Thanks :) On 9/8/06, Jay Askren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I would think this question would be more appropriate for the ldsclerks mailing list. http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/ On 9/8/06, Slide <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm going from second hand information from my brother, from what I > understand they don't even have a computer and their clerk/branch > president/everything office is the size of a broom closet, which makes > it hard to have one. Some branches outside the US are still using > paper and pen to do their membership and financial tracking, which can > be burdensome and increase the time needed to administer the branch > rather than minister TO the branch. As many little quirks as MLS may > have that we discuss on this list, some people don't even have MLS to > use to support their branch. I was hoping someone on the list might > have gone through that and come up with a good solution. > > On 9/8/06, Jay Askren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I would think the church would have something worked out. Why doesn't he > > just call church headquarters and see what everyone else is using? > > > > I thought other countries were using the old MIS and FIS. > > > > Jay > > > > > > On 9/6/06, Slide < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Are there any software packages anyone could recommend for a branch that > > can't > > use MLS? My brother lives in Israel and was recently called to the Branch > > Presidency. They can't use MLS and would like some way of tracking tithing > > and other financials to make it easier to generate reports, etc for Tithing > > Settlement. He will most likely be running on Windows. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Alex > > ___ > > Ldsoss mailing list > > Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org > > http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss > > > > > > ___ > > Ldsoss mailing list > > Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org > > http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss > > > > > > > ___ > Ldsoss mailing list > Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org > http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss > ___ Ldsoss mailing list Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss ___ Ldsoss mailing list Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss
Re: [Ldsoss] Software for people who can't use MLS?
I would think this question would be more appropriate for the ldsclerks mailing list. http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/ On 9/8/06, Slide <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm going from second hand information from my brother, from what Iunderstand they don't even have a computer and their clerk/branch president/everything office is the size of a broom closet, which makesit hard to have one. Some branches outside the US are still usingpaper and pen to do their membership and financial tracking, which can be burdensome and increase the time needed to administer the branchrather than minister TO the branch. As many little quirks as MLS mayhave that we discuss on this list, some people don't even have MLS touse to support their branch. I was hoping someone on the list might have gone through that and come up with a good solution.On 9/8/06, Jay Askren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> I would think the church would have something worked out. Why doesn't he > just call church headquarters and see what everyone else is using?>> I thought other countries were using the old MIS and FIS.>> Jay>>> On 9/6/06, Slide < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> >> Are there any software packages anyone could recommend for a branch that> can't> use MLS? My brother lives in Israel and was recently called to the Branch > Presidency. They can't use MLS and would like some way of tracking tithing> and other financials to make it easier to generate reports, etc for Tithing> Settlement. He will most likely be running on Windows. >> Thanks,>> Alex> ___> Ldsoss mailing list> Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org> http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss>>> ___> Ldsoss mailing list> Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org > http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss>>>___Ldsoss mailing list Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.orghttp://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss ___ Ldsoss mailing list Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss
RE: [Ldsoss] Software for people who can't use MLS?
As I said before, the ward I attended in Holland used an Excel spreadsheet for tithing ;). It should be fairly easy for your brother to do this in Excel. Week 1 Week 2 Week 3 Name 1 xxx Name 2 That's take care of all the needs ;) And you can totalize the rows and columns for a check. Kind regards, Manfred Riem [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.manorrock.org/ Original Message Subject: Re: [Ldsoss] Software for people who can't use MLS?From: Slide <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Fri, September 08, 2006 9:08 amTo: "LDS Open Source Software" I'm going from second hand information from my brother, from what Iunderstand they don't even have a computer and their clerk/branchpresident/everything office is the size of a broom closet, which makesit hard to have one. Some branches outside the US are still usingpaper and pen to do their membership and financial tracking, which canbe burdensome and increase the time needed to administer the branchrather than minister TO the branch. As many little quirks as MLS mayhave that we discuss on this list, some people don't even have MLS touse to support their branch. I was hoping someone on the list mighthave gone through that and come up with a good solution.On 9/8/06, Jay Askren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> I would think the church would have something worked out. Why doesn't he> just call church headquarters and see what everyone else is using?>> I thought other countries were using the old MIS and FIS.>> Jay>>> On 9/6/06, Slide <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> >> Are there any software packages anyone could recommend for a branch that> can't> use MLS? My brother lives in Israel and was recently called to the Branch> Presidency. They can't use MLS and would like some way of tracking tithing> and other financials to make it easier to generate reports, etc for Tithing> Settlement. He will most likely be running on Windows.>> Thanks,>> Alex> ___> Ldsoss mailing list> Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org> http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss>>> ___> Ldsoss mailing list> Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org> http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss>>>___Ldsoss mailing listLdsoss@lists.ldsoss.orghttp://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss ___ Ldsoss mailing list Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss
Re: [Ldsoss] Software for people who can't use MLS?
Ah, yes. It's all coming back to me now from Mexico. Members don't all meet in nice buildings with clerk's offices, do they? They may just rent a hall. Conditions may not favor the MLS-style setup.Tom On 9/8/06, Slide <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm going from second hand information from my brother, from what Iunderstand they don't even have a computer and their clerk/branchpresident/everything office is the size of a broom closet, which makesit hard to have one. Some branches outside the US are still using paper and pen to do their membership and financial tracking, which canbe burdensome and increase the time needed to administer the branchrather than minister TO the branch. As many little quirks as MLS may have that we discuss on this list, some people don't even have MLS touse to support their branch. I was hoping someone on the list mighthave gone through that and come up with a good solution.On 9/8/06, Jay Askren < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> I would think the church would have something worked out. Why doesn't he> just call church headquarters and see what everyone else is using? >> I thought other countries were using the old MIS and FIS.>> Jay>>> On 9/6/06, Slide <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > > Are there any software packages anyone could recommend for a branch that> can't> use MLS? My brother lives in Israel and was recently called to the Branch> Presidency. They can't use MLS and would like some way of tracking tithing > and other financials to make it easier to generate reports, etc for Tithing> Settlement. He will most likely be running on Windows.>> Thanks,>> Alex> ___ > Ldsoss mailing list> Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org> http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss >>> ___> Ldsoss mailing list> Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org> http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss>>>___Ldsoss mailing listLdsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss-- Tom Haws 480-201-5476Who has ever coveted a cloud, a rainbow, or a blue sky? (TH 2006-05-26) ___ Ldsoss mailing list Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss
Re: [Ldsoss] Software for people who can't use MLS?
I'm going from second hand information from my brother, from what I understand they don't even have a computer and their clerk/branch president/everything office is the size of a broom closet, which makes it hard to have one. Some branches outside the US are still using paper and pen to do their membership and financial tracking, which can be burdensome and increase the time needed to administer the branch rather than minister TO the branch. As many little quirks as MLS may have that we discuss on this list, some people don't even have MLS to use to support their branch. I was hoping someone on the list might have gone through that and come up with a good solution. On 9/8/06, Jay Askren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I would think the church would have something worked out. Why doesn't he just call church headquarters and see what everyone else is using? I thought other countries were using the old MIS and FIS. Jay On 9/6/06, Slide <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Are there any software packages anyone could recommend for a branch that can't use MLS? My brother lives in Israel and was recently called to the Branch Presidency. They can't use MLS and would like some way of tracking tithing and other financials to make it easier to generate reports, etc for Tithing Settlement. He will most likely be running on Windows. Thanks, Alex ___ Ldsoss mailing list Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss ___ Ldsoss mailing list Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss ___ Ldsoss mailing list Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss
Re: [Ldsoss] Software for people who can't use MLS?
I would think the church would have something worked out. Why doesn't he just call church headquarters and see what everyone else is using? I thought other countries were using the old MIS and FIS. Jay On 9/6/06, Slide <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Are there any software packages anyone could recommend for a branch that can'tuse MLS? My brother lives in Israel and was recently called to the Branch Presidency. They can't use MLS and would like some way of tracking tithingand other financials to make it easier to generate reports, etc for TithingSettlement. He will most likely be running on Windows. Thanks,Alex___Ldsoss mailing listLdsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss ___ Ldsoss mailing list Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss
Re: [Ldsoss] Software for people who can't use MLS?
I think the main focus is to track tithing donations easier, but membership is a concern as well. I don't know the details of why he can't use MLS, I don't think there is anywhere close that would be economical to sync with LDS headquarters. On 9/7/06, Steven H. McCown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm just curious. Why can't an official branch use MLS, when they could use an MLS-like application in something like MS or Open Office? I know that some countries have an issue with member tracking, in general. Wouldn't that apply to the Office solution, too? Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Slide Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 9:15 PM To: LDS Open Source Software Subject: [Ldsoss] Software for people who can't use MLS? Are there any software packages anyone could recommend for a branch that can't use MLS? My brother lives in Israel and was recently called to the Branch Presidency. They can't use MLS and would like some way of tracking tithing and other financials to make it easier to generate reports, etc for Tithing Settlement. He will most likely be running on Windows. Thanks, Alex ___ Ldsoss mailing list Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss ___ Ldsoss mailing list Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss ___ Ldsoss mailing list Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss
RE: [Ldsoss] Software for people who can't use MLS?
As far as I know only the English speaking countries use it. I have been in multiple countries across the world and I only know for sure that the US, UK and Australia use it. I know that the Netherlands, Belgium and Germany don't use it. And as far as I understood the main reason was the synchronization with SLC wasn't legally settled. But then again that was a couple of years ago. Maybe that has changed now. I sincerely hope so for the ward clerks ;). Trust me I know how it feels to do it by hand! Kind regards, Manfred Riem [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.manorrock.org/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven H. McCown Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 8:01 PM To: 'LDS Open Source Software' Subject: RE: [Ldsoss] Software for people who can't use MLS? I'm just curious. Why can't an official branch use MLS, when they could use an MLS-like application in something like MS or Open Office? I know that some countries have an issue with member tracking, in general. Wouldn't that apply to the Office solution, too? Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Slide Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 9:15 PM To: LDS Open Source Software Subject: [Ldsoss] Software for people who can't use MLS? Are there any software packages anyone could recommend for a branch that can't use MLS? My brother lives in Israel and was recently called to the Branch Presidency. They can't use MLS and would like some way of tracking tithing and other financials to make it easier to generate reports, etc for Tithing Settlement. He will most likely be running on Windows. Thanks, Alex ___ Ldsoss mailing list Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss ___ Ldsoss mailing list Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss ___ Ldsoss mailing list Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss
RE: [Ldsoss] Software for people who can't use MLS?
I'm just curious. Why can't an official branch use MLS, when they could use an MLS-like application in something like MS or Open Office? I know that some countries have an issue with member tracking, in general. Wouldn't that apply to the Office solution, too? Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Slide Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 9:15 PM To: LDS Open Source Software Subject: [Ldsoss] Software for people who can't use MLS? Are there any software packages anyone could recommend for a branch that can't use MLS? My brother lives in Israel and was recently called to the Branch Presidency. They can't use MLS and would like some way of tracking tithing and other financials to make it easier to generate reports, etc for Tithing Settlement. He will most likely be running on Windows. Thanks, Alex ___ Ldsoss mailing list Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss ___ Ldsoss mailing list Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss
RE: [Ldsoss] Software for people who can't use MLS?
He might be better off asking around in his stake. I remember in the Dutch ward I used to be in the clerk had his own set of Excel files. Kind regards, Manfred Riem [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.manorrock.org/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Slide Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 12:28 PM To: LDS Open Source Software Subject: Re: [Ldsoss] Software for people who can't use MLS? Does anyone already have something setup that my brother could poach? Alex On 9/7/06, Manfred Riem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would recommend using Microsoft / Open Office ;) > > > > > Original Message ---- > Subject: Re: [Ldsoss] Software for people who can't use MLS? > From: Robert Nickel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Thu, September 07, 2006 12:35 pm > To: LDS Open Source Software > > ___ > Ldsoss mailing list > Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org > http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss > > ___ > Ldsoss mailing list > Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org > http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss > > > ___ Ldsoss mailing list Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss ___ Ldsoss mailing list Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss
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Does anyone already have something setup that my brother could poach? Alex On 9/7/06, Manfred Riem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I would recommend using Microsoft / Open Office ;) Original Message Subject: Re: [Ldsoss] Software for people who can't use MLS? From: Robert Nickel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, September 07, 2006 12:35 pm To: LDS Open Source Software ___ Ldsoss mailing list Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss ___ Ldsoss mailing list Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss ___ Ldsoss mailing list Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss
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I would recommend using Microsoft / Open Office ;) Original Message Subject: Re: [Ldsoss] Software for people who can't use MLS?From: Robert Nickel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Thu, September 07, 2006 12:35 pmTo: LDS Open Source Software ___Ldsoss mailing listLdsoss@lists.ldsoss.orghttp://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss ___ Ldsoss mailing list Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss
Re: [Ldsoss] Software for people who can't use MLS?
On 2006.09.06 20:15:11 -0700, Slide wrote: > Are there any software packages anyone could recommend for a branch that > can't > use MLS? My brother lives in Israel and was recently called to the Branch > Presidency. They can't use MLS and would like some way of tracking tithing > and other financials to make it easier to generate reports, etc for Tithing > Settlement. He will most likely be running on Windows. Any accounting package can do the tithing side. Just setup all of the members as customers and record all of their donations as sales receipts. QuickBooks comes to mind as the simplest to use COTS software product. HTH, --Robert pgp5EcnP0Gtow.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Ldsoss mailing list Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss
