Re: [Leaf-devel] Site update 2001-07-12
Mike, It looks good. We might want to update http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=1407group_id=13751 It looks like I'll be getting my modem back this weekend so I'll finally be able to get back online from home and do some work. From work, there are limitations to th sites I can get to. -sp On Thu, 12 July 2001, Mike Noyes wrote: Mike Noyes, 2001-07-12 10:00 -0700 * Clean up DocManager Documents with tidy Everyone, I modified the FAQ below. I think the new format looks better, and offers us revision control. However, its added complexity may deter people from editing the FAQs. You can compare the new format to the old by clicking on the Print Document link. Description http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=1396group_id=13751 -- Mike Noyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://leaf.sourceforge.net/ ___ Leaf-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-devel ___ Leaf-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-devel
Re: [Leaf-devel] Site update 2001-07-12
[EMAIL PROTECTED], 2001-07-13 09:09 -0700 Mike, It looks good. Steven, Thanks. I'm adding the new header and footer information to our Why does the DocManager... FAQ. I want everyone to take a look at what's required to use the new format, before I change anymore FAQs. I'm concerned that this format change will make adding/modifying FAQs to complex. We might want to update http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=1407group_id=13751 Noted. It's not the only FAQ that should be modified. It looks like I'll be getting my modem back this weekend so I'll finally be able to get back online from home and do some work. Great. Did Morgan Reed get in touch with you about your wireless setup? -- Mike Noyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://leaf.sourceforge.net/ ___ Leaf-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-devel
Re: [Leaf-devel] Site update 2001-07-12
On Fri, 13 July 2001, Mike Noyes wrote: Great. Did Morgan Reed get in touch with you about your wireless setup? -- Mike Noyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://leaf.sourceforge.net/ Yes he did, unfortunatly I accidently nuked his response (stupid webmail -delays so you end up clicking on the wrong button). But he pointed me to the wavelan and there is a *.lrp file somewhere. So, I may pick up 2 cards this weekend, and run some range tests. Once I get it working in Windows (we are at ~700 feet) with utils I understand, I'll swap them over to the LRP box. And get it going. The main complication is that I'll probably have to add an antanea of some sort. Fortunatly, I can across a comple of designs on the internet that look do-able. In any case, if I get it working, I'll write it up. ___ Leaf-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-devel
Re: [Leaf-devel] Site update 2001-07-12
Mike Noyes wrote: A couple of intersecting projects were brought to my attention on irc. * udeb and udpkg - http://cvs.debian.org/debian-installer/tools/udpkg/ Busybox has a dpkg application, and a new version of the busybox dpkg app is about to be checked into CVS which is more powerful than its predecessor. * conectiva - http://en.conectiva.com/ This is a Brazilian Linux Distribution; how does that relate to us? ___ Leaf-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-devel
Re: [Leaf-devel] Site update 2001-07-12
David Douthitt, 2001-07-12 12:37 -0400 Mike Noyes wrote: A couple of intersecting projects were brought to my attention on irc. * udeb and udpkg - http://cvs.debian.org/debian-installer/tools/udpkg/ Busybox has a dpkg application, and a new version of the busybox dpkg app is about to be checked into CVS which is more powerful than its predecessor. David, Does the udpkg+udeb combination provide us with a possible package format? * conectiva - http://en.conectiva.com/ This is a Brazilian Linux Distribution; how does that relate to us? It was mentioned to me in passing. I'm not sure if it relates to us or not. They do seem to have some embedded products. http://www.google.com/search?q=embedded+site%3Aen.conectiva.com -- Mike Noyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://leaf.sourceforge.net/ ___ Leaf-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-devel
Re: [Leaf-devel] Site update 2001-07-12
Everyone, I just finished updating our web site Guides, HOWTOs, and Man Pages pages. Any feedback is appreciated. Also, please look at the new Download page, and my update of the Packages page. Thanks. I took a look at your site updates earlier but forgot to reply. Once again, it looks like you're heading in the right direction, and doing the work no one else manages to get done. Kudos! Charles Steinkuehler http://lrp.steinkuehler.net http://c0wz.steinkuehler.net (lrp.c0wz.com mirror) ___ Leaf-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-devel
Re: [Leaf-devel] Site update 2001-07-12
Mike Noyes wrote: Busybox has a dpkg application, and a new version of the busybox dpkg app is about to be checked into CVS which is more powerful than its predecessor. Does the udpkg+udeb combination provide us with a possible package format? I don't know. The busybox unrpm (or is it rpmunpack) will only unpack RPMs; I understand the newer dpkg will do more, but I'm not sure what. I don't know that much about (the original) dpkg and the package format; I've used RPM, and built quite a few RPMs and find it to be very powerful and useful, and have found dpkg to be counter-intuitive in many places (as is dselect). I wondered about using RPMs, but as I said that appears to be unpack only. apkg is better as it supports (using the shell) more powerful applications such as the pkg.sh extension, md5sums, and more. ___ Leaf-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-devel
Re: [Leaf-devel] Site update 2001-07-12
David Douthitt, 2001-07-12 13:59 -0400 Mike Noyes wrote: Busybox has a dpkg application, and a new version of the busybox dpkg app is about to be checked into CVS which is more powerful than its predecessor. Does the udpkg+udeb combination provide us with a possible package format? I don't know. The busybox unrpm (or is it rpmunpack) will only unpack RPMs; I understand the newer dpkg will do more, but I'm not sure what. David, Here is the information from the udpkg DESIGN document in the Debian cvs repository. http://cvs.debian.org/debian-installer/tools/udpkg/ udpkg is a much-trimmed down version of the Debian package manager. The goal is to implement a small subset of dpkg's functionality sufficient to bootstrap a newly installed system. Assumptions: * udpkg needs to provide support for the following operation modes of dpkg: -i: install package(s) -r: remove package(s) --unpack: unpack packages --configure: configure packages * Full dependency checking is not supported. In particular, udpkg does not support: - Pre-depends - Versioned depends - Alternate depends (udpkg forces the first one to be used) - Versioned provides (not currently in policy) - Conflicts and replaces Simple dependencies on either a real package or a virtual package is supported. * udpkg must be able to recognize and update the status file based on packages being installed or removed * dependency checking can be turned off completely at compile time to save space * udpkg depends on the availability of external tools; in particular, ar, tar, zcat and the existence of /bin/sh. (TODO: optionally link in busybox versions of these routines instead of running them from the shell) -- Mike Noyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://leaf.sourceforge.net/ ___ Leaf-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-devel
Re: [Leaf-devel] Site update 2001-07-12
David Douthitt, 2001-07-12 13:59 -0400 Mike Noyes wrote: Busybox has a dpkg application, and a new version of the busybox dpkg app is about to be checked into CVS which is more powerful than its predecessor. Does the udpkg+udeb combination provide us with a possible package format? I don't know. The busybox unrpm (or is it rpmunpack) will only unpack RPMs; I understand the newer dpkg will do more, but I'm not sure what. David, Here is some other information you may find interesting. Apparently BusyBox has supported the udeb package format since 0.48-1. http://opensource.lineo.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb/busybox/debian/ busybox (0.48-1) unstable; urgency=low * Lots more source updates and bug fixes. See changelog for details. * Now includes .udeb support for the debian-installer. The .udeb probably needs some more work, but this should be a good start. -- Erik Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed, 13 Dec 2000 08:36:07 -0700 -- Mike Noyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://leaf.sourceforge.net/ ___ Leaf-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-devel
