Re: [leaf-user] lets talk about something--anything!

2005-07-05 Thread Eric Spakman
Hello cpu,

That would be nice but I don't think a 'small' script would be enough and we 
really don't have the time to create such an installer.
But if someone on this list can create a generic installer, independent of a 
specific Bering(-uClibc) version which can be used on both linux and Windows, 
that would be interesting.

Eric

Eric, I understand, but a small installation script could solve these
problems. -cpu

Eric Spakman wrote:


It would be nice if that was possible, but unfortuanatly like Luis
told, it's not that easy. For example, we don't know which device is
the bootdevice, hda1, hdb1, something else? In my case it's hdc1. So
editing leaf.cfg and syslinux.cfg is still needed.
An other problem is how to put the image on the CF, with 'dd'? That's
really a strange UNIX command.
I'm also not sure if the size of the image must be the same as the CF
size.

Eric



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Re: [leaf-user] lets talk about something--anything!

2005-07-05 Thread Eric Spakman
Ciprian,

snip
also i don't understand the logic in having syslinux.cfg and leaf.cfg, i 
presume that leaf.cfg loads after the root remount.

Syslinux.cfg is the bootloader config file, which is needed for booting to be 
possible (same as grub or lilo configuration). The config file is limited in 
options and possibilites, that's why the leaf.cfg file is also used to do the 
things that aren't possible in a bootloader config file.

Eric



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RE: [leaf-user] lets talk about something--anything!

2005-07-05 Thread Eric Spakman
Hello James,

Another feature we're looking at adding is multicast routing across VPN
tunnels. This will allow mDNS and other zero conf stuff to work across
our big net and switch on iTunes sharing between our subnets. I think.
:S
That all seems still very bleeding edge in Linux. Is there an
mrouted.lrp about?

There is no mrouted package, it also wouldn't be very helpful because mrouted 
is not enabled in the kernel config. I won't call it very bleeding edge, the 
last mroute source update is from around 2001 ;-)

Eric Spakman



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Re: [leaf-user] lets talk about something--anything!

2005-07-05 Thread Eric Spakman
Hello cpu,

Anyhow, I feel that lrcfg is in need of a major overhaul. I’m sure many
will disagree, but, you can’t start/stop services from within lrcfg.

That would be a nice addition.

And it would be nice to be able to save a package while in a package
menu (incidentally, I added this capability :). 

Why not share your work with the community ;-)

Another problem with
lrcfg is that once you have more than 20 config options they scroll off
the screen.

True, that's becoming an issue with the shorwall package. Someone having a 
solution for it?

Eric Spakman



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Re: [leaf-user] lets talk about something--anything!

2005-07-05 Thread Charles Steinkuehler

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Eric Spakman wrote:

| Hello cpu,
|
|Anyhow, I feel that lrcfg is in need of a major overhaul. I?m sure many
|will disagree, but, you can?t start/stop services from within lrcfg.
|
| That would be a nice addition.

There's the command-line svi, but you can't call this while inside lrcfg.

|And it would be nice to be able to save a package while in a package
|menu (incidentally, I added this capability :).
|
| Why not share your work with the community ;-)

This does sound handy.

|Another problem with
|lrcfg is that once you have more than 20 config options they scroll off
|the screen.
|
| True, that's becoming an issue with the shorwall package. Someone having a
solution for it?

I use ssh, and just drag the window to a larger size.  :-)

If you're stuck at the (real) console screen, shiftpage-up still works.

Also, you can always pass vga=whatever to the kernel (assuming this
functionality has been left in the Bering kernels) to get more characters on
the screen.  There's probably a way to do this at runtime as well, but it's
been so long since I messed with an actual console (most of my systems are
now headless with serial terminal consoles  BIOS redirection) I don't
remember how...

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Re: [leaf-user] lets talk about something--anything!

2005-07-05 Thread Eric Spakman
Hello Charles,
|
|Anyhow, I feel that lrcfg is in need of a major overhaul. I?m sure many
|will disagree, but, you can?t start/stop services from within lrcfg.
|
| That would be a nice addition.

There's the command-line svi, but you can't call this while inside lrcfg.

Indeed. Just adding an other option to lrcfg (to call svi with the right init.d 
file) is also a difficult option. You can't predict what the exact name of the 
script is and you don't even know if the package even contain a daemon or init 
script.
The webconf package has such an option and some code to find the correct init 
script. Maybe it can be borrowed from there.

|And it would be nice to be able to save a package while in a package
|menu (incidentally, I added this capability :).
|
| Why not share your work with the community ;-)

This does sound handy.

|Another problem with
|lrcfg is that once you have more than 20 config options they scroll off
|the screen.
|
| True, that's becoming an issue with the shorwall package. Someone having a
solution for it?

I use ssh, and just drag the window to a larger size.  :-)

Me too ;-) But I can imagine that for initial setup it can be handy, although 
setting up ssh (dropbear) is the first thing I do.

If you're stuck at the (real) console screen, shiftpage-up still works.

Also, you can always pass vga=whatever to the kernel (assuming this
functionality has been left in the Bering kernels) to get more characters on
the screen.  There's probably a way to do this at runtime as well, but it's
been so long since I messed with an actual console (most of my systems are
now headless with serial terminal consoles  BIOS redirection) I don't
remember how...

The 'vga' kernel option isn't available in the Bering(-uClibc) kernels anymore, 
both because of size and there isn't a real need if one is using ssh. So the 
'issue' is mainly cosmetical.

Eric Spakman

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Re: [leaf-user] ANN: Bering-uClibc 2.3 beta4 released

2005-07-05 Thread M Lu

Hi KP,

I tried the CD today but I could not load modules.


My /etc/modules looks something like this



# More modules available from:
# http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/leaf/bin/bering-uclibc/packages/


! mount iso9660 /dev/cdrom
! dir /lib/modules/2.4.31/kernel/drivers/net

3c509
..



however I got errors when loading modules:

firewall#  svi modutils reload
Loading modules:
3c509 - find: /var/lib/lrpkg/mnt/lib/modules/2.4.31/kernel/drivers/net/.: No 
such file or directory

BusyBox v1.00 (2005.06.26-19:58+) multi-call binary

..


When going back to old CD, beta3, I got the modules working again with 
replacing 2.4.31 with 2.4.30


Has the soft-link or anything changed in beta 4?

Thanks.





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Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 6:01 PM
Subject: [leaf-user] ANN: Bering-uClibc 2.3 beta4 released



The Bering-uClibc team released today Bering-uClibc 2.3 beta4.

We decided to release another beta version due to a kernel update to 
2.4.31.


Other changes are upgrades of various packages, including shorewall to 
2.4.0,

some patches (like hfsc support for iproute), some fixes and cleanups.

For a complete changelog please read:
http://leaf.sourceforge.net/bering-uclibc/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=2MMN_position=2:2

Please note, that kernel-related packages for 2.3betax have now their
own cvs repository - the packages page will move you to the right
direction.
Other packages shouldnt be affected.

The floppy images, ISO image, ipv6 addon and a modules tarball
are available in the FRS:

http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=13751package_id=67534release_id=339385

Please send your notes, bug reports, feature requests or whatelse
youll like to add to the LEAF mailing-lists.

You may also visit the LEAF IRC channel
http://slashnet.org/channels/leaf/
irc://irc.slashnet.org/%26leaf


Thx for reading
kp


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[leaf-user] Bering uClib 2.3-beta 4

2005-07-05 Thread Stephen More
I am testing out the new beta 4 version of Bering uClib 2.3.
I am trying to install it on a HD and trying to follow:
http://leaf.sourceforge.net/doc/guide/bucu-ide.html

Here are some notes I made:
1. It says to replace initrd.lrp with initrd_ide_cd.lrp.there is
not enough room on the floppy...what is safe to delete ?

2. There is a typo lprkg should be lrpkg

3. It talks about floppies alotIsn't there an easier way to copy
the iso image onto a HD ? If so, might this feature make it into the
final release ?


-Thanks
Steve More


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