Re: [Leaf-devel] Re: [Leaf-user] glibc pppoe...
Kenneth Hadley PC Network Specialist McCormick Selph Inc. 831-637-3731 x363 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [Leaf-devel] Re: [Leaf-user] glibc pppoe... On Fri, 18 January 2002, Kenneth Hadley wrote: - Original Message - From: Charles Steinkuehler Well, I *have* effectevly abandoned the 1440 floppy format (for anything other than the config floppy for a CD-ROM install), but I really want to keep a workable firewall running on a 1680K floppy. Note the new Dachstein releases are actually *SMALLER* than the previous EigerStein releases, while supporting more features! Charles Steinkuehler For which many of us are very grateful for your work Charles. Except for a config I'm under the opinion that the floppy is dead. In computer technology its a stagnate dinosaur whose time for retirement has long been late, however its reliability and being available on almost every PC has made it live on much longer than it should. If the advancement of the various projects in LEAF means goodbye to the floppy, then so be it. I look forward to all further improvements in all the various LEAF projects. Kenneth Hadley I like to have the floppy configuration avaiable. While it is 'old' technology, there remain many who cannot afford flash w/ide adaptors, etc. Since I have inheritted several older systems, it costs me little to nothing to set one up for someone. And while one or two have CD Rom drives, all have floppy drives. If they had to buy a flash or DOC, then they might as well buy a Linksys. With the LEAF floppy systems, I have found that half the folks get more interested in networking and Linux, which I regard as a plus. -sp $0.02 I totally understand and agree with most of what you have said, but when I look at new CDROM drives going for the same price tag of a new 1.44MB Floppy Drive it seams a more than a little funny that a old floppy drive is a more important media target for a project than something that is a lot more reliable and allows the project to do so much more. Of course this is just my .02 cents worth...and about a $1.98 short of something that makes sense ;-) -Kenneth Hadley ___ Leaf-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user
Re: [Leaf-devel] Re: [Leaf-user] glibc pppoe...
At 11:44 AM 1/18/02 -0800, Kenneth Hadley wrote: [...] I totally understand and agree with most of what you have said, but when I look at new CDROM drives going for the same price tag of a new 1.44MB Floppy Drive it seams a more than a little funny that a old floppy drive is a more important media target for a project than something that is a lot more reliable and allows the project to do so much more. Where do you look? *New* CD-ROM drives are pretty cheap ... $US30 in today's ads around here ... but not as cheap as *new* floppy drives ($US10, same ad) by a lot. Do you know better sources for new equipment? Anyway, unless you make a custom CD, you need a CD -AND- a floppy, not a CD -OR- a floppy. The other issue for the home user working with CDs is that he or she needs a burner, and they are more expensive ($US50 locally today), require a separate system to run them, and are more finicky than even 1680 floppy drives and disks. I'm moving away from this low-end equipment myself, but I still think we'll lose a lot of user interest if floppy-only systems become impractical. -- Never tell me the odds!--- Ray Olszewski-- Han Solo Palo Alto, CA[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Leaf-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user
Re: [Leaf-devel] Re: [Leaf-user] glibc pppoe...
32x cd rom drive at Computer geeks $14.00 Ray Olszewski wrote: At 11:44 AM 1/18/02 -0800, Kenneth Hadley wrote:[...] I totally understand and agree with most of what you have said, but when Ilook at new CDROM drives going for the same price tag of a new 1.44MB FloppyDrive it seams a more than a little funny that a old floppy drive is a moreimportant media target for a project than something that is a lot morereliable and allows the project to do so much more. Where do you look? *New* CD-ROM drives are pretty cheap ... $US30 in today'sads around here ... but not as cheap as *new* floppy drives ($US10, same ad)by a lot. Do you know better sources for new equipment?Anyway, unless you make a custom CD, you need a CD -AND- a floppy, not a CD-OR- a floppy.The other issue for the home user working with CDs is that he or she needs aburner, and they are more expensive ($US50 locally today), require aseparate system to run them, and are more finicky than even 1680 floppydrives and disks.I'm moving away from this low-end equipment myself, but I still think we'lllose a lot of user interest if floppy-only systems become impractical.--"Never tell me the odds!"---Ray Olszewski-- Han SoloPalo Alto, CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]___Leaf-user mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user
