[leaf-user] Anyone using SBC Yahoo DSL?
Hi, A friend of mine in Chicago would like to subscribe to SBC Yahoo DSL package, which gives him 5 static IP, for about $70 a month. From their Web site regarding the equipment (http://www.sbcdslstore.com/default.asp?refDomain=www05), they say that they are selling some additional, stand-alone network components and accessories to enhance the DSL connection. And they also say that the SBC DSL Internet access service includes basic equipment needed to get started. Also according to the site, Linux is compatible but not supported. If anyone uses SBC Yahoo can let me know if he has to buy any other equipment for the 5 static IP package or can I just help him to use Bering directly with the basic equipment included in the package? Thank you. --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: Geek Gift Procrastinating? Get the perfect geek gift now! Before the Holidays pass you by. T H I N K G E E K . C O M http://www.thinkgeek.com/sf/ leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html
RE: [leaf-user] Anyone using SBC Yahoo DSL?
> -Original Message- > From: M Lu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 10:45 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [leaf-user] Anyone using SBC Yahoo DSL? > > > Hi, > > A friend of mine in Chicago would like to subscribe to SBC > Yahoo DSL package, which gives him 5 static IP, for about $70 > a month. From their Web site regarding the equipment > (http://www.sbcdslstore.com/default.asp?> refDomain=www05), > they say that they are selling some > additional, stand-alone network components and accessories to > enhance the DSL connection. And they also say that the SBC > DSL Internet access service includes basic equipment needed > to get started. > > Also according to the site, Linux is compatible but not supported. > > If anyone uses SBC Yahoo can let me know if he has to buy any > other equipment for the 5 static IP package or can I just > help him to use Bering directly with the basic equipment > included in the package? > > Thank you. > All of the equipment on that entry page is standard gear for an SBC DSL install (NIC, DSL modem, and filters). The stuff on the linked pages is more sophisticated hardware that includes mini firewalls/routers/etc, he doesn't need it, if you can install a bering box. Static IP's should be a simple setup...no PPPoE cr@p to fuss with. --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: Geek Gift Procrastinating? Get the perfect geek gift now! Before the Holidays pass you by. T H I N K G E E K . C O M http://www.thinkgeek.com/sf/ leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html
Re: [leaf-user] Anyone using SBC Yahoo DSL?
I've had occasion to use SBC's 5-address service (back when it was called "Enhanced Home DSL" or something similar) twice, both times in the SF Bay Area. I suspect that is the same service they now sell as "SBC Yahoo DSL", particularly since my 1-address SBC DSL changed to that name a couple of months ago with no observable effect on performance. In both cases, I was able to add a Debian-based router to NAT a LAN behind *one* of the addresses with no trouble. Using 1 router to firewall all 5 addresses will require you to run proxy arp on the router (or persuade SBC to modify its routing tables, but I doubt they will do that for you). Assuming Bering handles proxy arp smoothly, everything else should be no problem at all. Here, the DSL "modem" SBC provided was always Ethernet based (though I once had to insist on this, back when they tried to push USB-based modems for a brief time), but you do want to make sure of that. At 08:45 AM 12/19/02 -0800, M Lu wrote: Hi, A friend of mine in Chicago would like to subscribe to SBC Yahoo DSL package, which gives him 5 static IP, for about $70 a month. From their Web site regarding the equipment (http://www.sbcdslstore.com/default.asp?refDomain=www05), they say that they are selling some additional, stand-alone network components and accessories to enhance the DSL connection. And they also say that the SBC DSL Internet access service includes basic equipment needed to get started. Also according to the site, Linux is compatible but not supported. If anyone uses SBC Yahoo can let me know if he has to buy any other equipment for the 5 static IP package or can I just help him to use Bering directly with the basic equipment included in the package? -- ---"Never tell me the odds!" Ray Olszewski -- Han Solo Palo Alto, California, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: Geek Gift Procrastinating? Get the perfect geek gift now! Before the Holidays pass you by. T H I N K G E E K . C O M http://www.thinkgeek.com/sf/ leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html
Re: [leaf-user] Anyone using SBC Yahoo DSL?
Thank you Adrian for the information. I do not know if static IP setup is simple yet, as some ISPs give you static IP but you need to get them via DHCP so you still have to run some kind of DHCP client. - Original Message - From: "Stovall, Adrian M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "M Lu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 9:01 AM Subject: RE: [leaf-user] Anyone using SBC Yahoo DSL? > -Original Message- > From: M Lu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 10:45 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [leaf-user] Anyone using SBC Yahoo DSL? > > > Hi, > > A friend of mine in Chicago would like to subscribe to SBC > Yahoo DSL package, which gives him 5 static IP, for about $70 > a month. From their Web site regarding the equipment > (http://www.sbcdslstore.com/default.asp?> refDomain=www05), > they say that they are selling some > additional, stand-alone network components and accessories to > enhance the DSL connection. And they also say that the SBC > DSL Internet access service includes basic equipment needed > to get started. > > Also according to the site, Linux is compatible but not supported. > > If anyone uses SBC Yahoo can let me know if he has to buy any > other equipment for the 5 static IP package or can I just > help him to use Bering directly with the basic equipment > included in the package? > > Thank you. > All of the equipment on that entry page is standard gear for an SBC DSL install (NIC, DSL modem, and filters). The stuff on the linked pages is more sophisticated hardware that includes mini firewalls/routers/etc, he doesn't need it, if you can install a bering box. Static IP's should be a simple setup...no PPPoE cr@p to fuss with. --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: Geek Gift Procrastinating? Get the perfect geek gift now! Before the Holidays pass you by. T H I N K G E E K . C O M http://www.thinkgeek.com/sf/ leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html
Re: [leaf-user] Anyone using SBC Yahoo DSL?
At 09:07 AM 12/19/02 -0800, M Lu wrote: Thank you Adrian for the information. I do not know if static IP setup is simple yet, as some ISPs give you static IP but you need to get them via DHCP so you still have to run some kind of DHCP client. This was not the case when I ran the services I described in my prior reply to your original message. -- ---"Never tell me the odds!" Ray Olszewski -- Han Solo Palo Alto, California, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: Geek Gift Procrastinating? Get the perfect geek gift now! Before the Holidays pass you by. T H I N K G E E K . C O M http://www.thinkgeek.com/sf/ leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html
Re: [leaf-user] Anyone using SBC Yahoo DSL?
You don't need any DHCP client. They assign you a static xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/29 block. I'm having no problems using it with a simple Bering installation. >>> "M Lu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 12/19/02 09:07AM >>> Thank you Adrian for the information. I do not know if static IP setup is simple yet, as some ISPs give you static IP but you need to get them via DHCP so you still have to run some kind of DHCP client. --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: Geek Gift Procrastinating? Get the perfect geek gift now! Before the Holidays pass you by. T H I N K G E E K . C O M http://www.thinkgeek.com/sf/ leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html
Re: [leaf-user] Anyone using SBC Yahoo DSL?
Thank you, That's would be great. And regarding your previous message, yes, I am thinking of running Proxy ARP as explained in Tom Eastep's Shorewall documentation. >From your message I understand that my friend will not have to buy any equipment other than the one included in the package. Please correct me if I am wrong. - Original Message - From: "Ray Olszewski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "M Lu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [leaf-user] Anyone using SBC Yahoo DSL? > At 09:07 AM 12/19/02 -0800, M Lu wrote: > >Thank you Adrian for the information. > > > >I do not know if static IP setup is simple yet, as some ISPs give you static > >IP but you need to get them via DHCP so you still have to run some kind of > >DHCP client. > > This was not the case when I ran the services I described in my prior reply > to your original message. > Your previous message: > In both cases, I was able to add a Debian-based router to NAT a LAN behind > *one* of the addresses with no trouble. Using 1 router to firewall all 5 > addresses will require you to run proxy arp on the router (or persuade SBC > to modify its routing tables, but I doubt they will do that for you). > Assuming Bering handles proxy arp smoothly, everything else should be no > problem at all. > > Here, the DSL "modem" SBC provided was always Ethernet based (though I once > had to insist on this, back when they tried to push USB-based modems for a > brief time), but you do want to make sure of that. > -- > ---"Never tell me the odds!" > Ray Olszewski -- Han Solo > Palo Alto, California, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- - > --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: Geek Gift Procrastinating? Get the perfect geek gift now! Before the Holidays pass you by. T H I N K G E E K . C O M http://www.thinkgeek.com/sf/ leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html
Re: [leaf-user] Anyone using SBC Yahoo DSL?
Thanks, And I assume that you get the 5 IPs with prroxy ARP. As an alternative, can I setup IP aliases too? - Original Message - From: "Michael Bonner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 10:12 AM Subject: Re: [leaf-user] Anyone using SBC Yahoo DSL? > You don't need any DHCP client. They assign you a static > xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/29 block. I'm having no problems using it with a simple > Bering installation. > > >>> "M Lu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 12/19/02 09:07AM >>> > Thank you Adrian for the information. > > I do not know if static IP setup is simple yet, as some ISPs give you > static > IP but you need to get them via DHCP so you still have to run some kind > of > DHCP client. > > > > --- > This SF.NET email is sponsored by: Geek Gift Procrastinating? > Get the perfect geek gift now! Before the Holidays pass you by. > T H I N K G E E K . C O M http://www.thinkgeek.com/sf/ > > leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user > SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html > --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: Geek Gift Procrastinating? Get the perfect geek gift now! Before the Holidays pass you by. T H I N K G E E K . C O M http://www.thinkgeek.com/sf/ leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html
Re: [leaf-user] Anyone using SBC Yahoo DSL?
--On Thursday, December 19, 2002 10:26:29 AM -0800 M Lu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thanks, And I assume that you get the 5 IPs with prroxy ARP. As an alternative, can I setup IP aliases too? See http://shorewall.sf.net/shorewall_setup_guide.htm -- that guide covers setting up a 5-IP installation. -Tom -- Tom Eastep \ Shorewall - iptables made easy Shoreline,\ http://shorewall.sf.net Washington USA \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: Geek Gift Procrastinating? Get the perfect geek gift now! Before the Holidays pass you by. T H I N K G E E K . C O M http://www.thinkgeek.com/sf/ leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html
Re: [leaf-user] Anyone using SBC Yahoo DSL?
If you connect a generic hub to the DSL modem, you can connect up to 5 interfaces using the static IP addresses. If you wish to utilize multiple IP addresses on a single interface then you can either use IP aliases or Proxy ARP. The DSL modem doesn't really care, SBC is just configuring it to bridge your network to theirs over the specified subnet range so how you use the /29 subnet is totally up to you and what your OS supports. Michael >>> "M Lu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 12/19/02 10:26AM >>> Thanks, And I assume that you get the 5 IPs with prroxy ARP. As an alternative, can I setup IP aliases too? - Original Message - From: "Michael Bonner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 10:12 AM Subject: Re: [leaf-user] Anyone using SBC Yahoo DSL? > You don't need any DHCP client. They assign you a static > xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/29 block. I'm having no problems using it with a simple > Bering installation. > > >>> "M Lu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 12/19/02 09:07AM >>> > Thank you Adrian for the information. > > I do not know if static IP setup is simple yet, as some ISPs give you > static > IP but you need to get them via DHCP so you still have to run some kind > of > DHCP client. > > > > --- > This SF.NET email is sponsored by: Geek Gift Procrastinating? > Get the perfect geek gift now! Before the Holidays pass you by. > T H I N K G E E K . C O M http://www.thinkgeek.com/sf/ > > leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user > SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html > --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: Geek Gift Procrastinating? Get the perfect geek gift now! Before the Holidays pass you by. T H I N K G E E K . C O M http://www.thinkgeek.com/sf/ leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html
RE: [leaf-user] Anyone using SBC Yahoo DSL?
On Thu, 19 Dec 2002, Stovall, Adrian M. wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: M Lu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 10:45 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [leaf-user] Anyone using SBC Yahoo DSL? > > > > > > Hi, > > > > A friend of mine in Chicago would like to subscribe to SBC > > Yahoo DSL package, which gives him 5 static IP, for about $70 > > a month. From their Web site regarding the equipment > > (http://www.sbcdslstore.com/default.asp?> refDomain=www05), > > they say that they are selling some > > additional, stand-alone network components and accessories to > > enhance the DSL connection. And they also say that the SBC > > DSL Internet access service includes basic equipment needed > > to get started. > > > > Also according to the site, Linux is compatible but not supported. > > > > If anyone uses SBC Yahoo can let me know if he has to buy any > > other equipment for the 5 static IP package or can I just > > help him to use Bering directly with the basic equipment > > included in the package? > > > > Thank you. > > > > All of the equipment on that entry page is standard gear for an SBC DSL > install (NIC, DSL modem, and filters). The stuff on the linked pages is > more sophisticated hardware that includes mini firewalls/routers/etc, he > doesn't need it, if you can install a bering box. Static IP's should be > a simple setup...no PPPoE cr@p to fuss with. Be aware that firewalling multiple static IP addresses is somewhat more complicated than masquerading behind a single static IP address. (See Proxy-ARP or Static NAT in the Shorewall documentation at http://www.shorewall.net). I did proxyarp with kernel 2.2, and from the look of the documentation Shorewall/kernel 2.4 makes this job a lot easier than it used to be, but I haven't used it recently. --- Jeff NewmillerThe . . Go Live... DCN:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Basics: ##.#. ##.#. Live Go... Live: OO#.. Dead: OO#.. Playing Research Engineer (Solar/BatteriesO.O#. #.O#. with /Software/Embedded Controllers) .OO#. .OO#. rocks...2k --- --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: Geek Gift Procrastinating? Get the perfect geek gift now! Before the Holidays pass you by. T H I N K G E E K . C O M http://www.thinkgeek.com/sf/ leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html
