Re: [leaf-user] Best 4-port NICs?
Not GBE, but very good price. On Sun, 2005-04-24 at 03:17, AJ C wrote: If you're still looking for a 4-port card, you could try the Soekris Engineering lan 1641: http://www.soekris.com/lan16x1.htm You can get this direct from Soekris for $89 USD... ajc --- Calvin Webster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2005-04-20 at 14:00, Alvin Starr wrote: A solution for lots of ports is to use 802.1q vlans. You do need a switch capable of vlan managment but you can then have as many ethernet ports as you want. I may only need one or two more so that may be a viable option for LANs with low-bandwidth requirements. Still, I'm disappointed that I can't experiment with this otherwise very capable NIC. Thanks. --Cal Webster --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: New Crystal Reports XI. Version 11 adds new functionality designed to reduce time involved in creating, integrating, and deploying reporting solutions. Free runtime info, new features, or free trial, at: http://www.businessobjects.com/devxi/728 leaf-user mailing list: leaf-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595alloc_id=14396op=click leaf-user mailing list: leaf-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html
Re: [leaf-user] Best 4-port NICs?
If you're still looking for a 4-port card, you could try the Soekris Engineering lan 1641: http://www.soekris.com/lan16x1.htm You can get this direct from Soekris for $89 USD... ajc --- Calvin Webster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2005-04-20 at 14:00, Alvin Starr wrote: A solution for lots of ports is to use 802.1q vlans. You do need a switch capable of vlan managment but you can then have as many ethernet ports as you want. I may only need one or two more so that may be a viable option for LANs with low-bandwidth requirements. Still, I'm disappointed that I can't experiment with this otherwise very capable NIC. Thanks. --Cal Webster --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: New Crystal Reports XI. Version 11 adds new functionality designed to reduce time involved in creating, integrating, and deploying reporting solutions. Free runtime info, new features, or free trial, at: http://www.businessobjects.com/devxi/728 leaf-user mailing list: leaf-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595alloc_id=14396op=click leaf-user mailing list: leaf-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html
RE: [leaf-user] Best 4-port NICs?
I went with the Intel Pro/100 MT Quad Port Server Adapter, but got a rude surprise after it arrived! Contrary to all the sales literature, the card will _NOT_ fit in the standard 32-bit PCI slot, at least not those available in any local PC hardware, including the passive-backplane industrial rack-mount PC's purchased for this project. I did a lot of searching on the Intel site before purchasing it specifically to determine if it would fit, but everything indicated it would fit. After more searching I found an obscure notice that it will fit only 3.3 volt, 32-bit, 33 MHz PCI slots (key on inboard end of slot). It will not fit in 5 volt, 33 MHz slots (key on outboard end of slot) or universal 3.3/5 volt slots. http://support.intel.com/support/network/adapter/1000mtquad/sb/cs-009537.htm Now I've got an expensive card that I have to find another use for and I'll have to make do with fewer ports on its intended host. --Cal Webster On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 15:36, Calvin Webster wrote: Thanks for the info Peter. Here are my choices so far: Intel: Intel PRO/1000 MT Quad Port Server Adapter $337 Osicom: FE-2404-TX - 10/100BTX PCI FAST ENET NIC $329 Adaptec: ANA-64044LV 4-Port, 64-bit/66 MHz PCI NIC $409 Obsolete but available in obscure locations: D-Link: DFE-570TX 4 port 21143 card (avail only on eBay) $80 Phobos: P430 4-port 10/100 NIC (kernelsoftware.com) $248 I'm thinking the Intel NIC would be best, but after looking at it on intel.com I'm not sure it'll fit in a PCI slot. It looks like a PCI/X card. My next choice would be the Osicom card for price/performance, but I've never heard of them before. They say it's based on the Intel 82559 and list Linux as a supported OS so it should work. Adaptec has had the quad NIC for quite a while, but I'm not sure if it uses the tulip drivers that you warned against. Adaptec doesn't say what chip set is used. The two obsolete cards I found while searching. I hesitate to get these because (1) I'm not sure if they're supported, and (2) they may not be available when we need replacements. Our firewall hardware platform uses a passive backplane chassis with Cyber Research PIII-based single board computers. I can't find the SBC documentation so I'm not sure if it'll handle 64-bit PCI transfers. Even so, it shouldn't be worse than 4 single port NICs. Which would you favor? Thanks! --Cal Webster On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 14:08, Peter Mueller wrote: I'd appreciate a recommendation from the list on which 4-port NICs work best with the Bering uClibc distro? Any known problems using them with single-port NICs on the same machine? The situation is the same as with a normal distro. uClibc uses modules; therefore, you can insert commands just like with a regular distro. Stay away from Tulip based 4-port cards. I have used Intel cards to good effect, especially with newer machines. Older servers sometimes have IRQ issues. On 4 servers here we are using 2 dual 64bit 66mhz+ Intel gigabit adapters to good effect. It is important to get 64bit 66mhz+ cards if you want to push a lot of bandwidth. Regards, P --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_ide95alloc_id396op=click leaf-user mailing list: leaf-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_ide95alloc_id396op=click leaf-user mailing list: leaf-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: New Crystal Reports XI. Version 11 adds new functionality designed to reduce time involved in creating, integrating, and deploying reporting solutions. Free runtime info, new features, or free trial, at: http://www.businessobjects.com/devxi/728 leaf-user mailing list: leaf-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html
Re: [leaf-user] Best 4-port NICs?
Calvin Webster wrote: I went with the Intel Pro/100 MT Quad Port Server Adapter, but got a rude surprise after it arrived! Contrary to all the sales literature, the card will _NOT_ fit in the standard 32-bit PCI slot, at least not those available in any local PC hardware, including the passive-backplane industrial rack-mount PC's purchased for this project. I did a lot of searching on the Intel site before purchasing it specifically to determine if it would fit, but everything indicated it would fit. After more searching I found an obscure notice that it will fit only 3.3 volt, 32-bit, 33 MHz PCI slots (key on inboard end of slot). It will not fit in 5 volt, 33 MHz slots (key on outboard end of slot) or universal 3.3/5 volt slots. http://support.intel.com/support/network/adapter/1000mtquad/sb/cs-009537.htm Now I've got an expensive card that I have to find another use for and I'll have to make do with fewer ports on its intended host. --Cal Webster A solution for lots of ports is to use 802.1q vlans. You do need a switch capable of vlan managment but you can then have as many ethernet ports as you want. -- Alvin Starr || voice: (416)585-9971 Interlink Connectivity|| fax: (416)585-9974 [EMAIL PROTECTED] || --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: New Crystal Reports XI. Version 11 adds new functionality designed to reduce time involved in creating, integrating, and deploying reporting solutions. Free runtime info, new features, or free trial, at: http://www.businessobjects.com/devxi/728 leaf-user mailing list: leaf-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html
Re: [leaf-user] Best 4-port NICs?
On Wed, 2005-04-20 at 14:00, Alvin Starr wrote: A solution for lots of ports is to use 802.1q vlans. You do need a switch capable of vlan managment but you can then have as many ethernet ports as you want. I may only need one or two more so that may be a viable option for LANs with low-bandwidth requirements. Still, I'm disappointed that I can't experiment with this otherwise very capable NIC. Thanks. --Cal Webster --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: New Crystal Reports XI. Version 11 adds new functionality designed to reduce time involved in creating, integrating, and deploying reporting solutions. Free runtime info, new features, or free trial, at: http://www.businessobjects.com/devxi/728 leaf-user mailing list: leaf-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html
[leaf-user] Best 4-port NICs?
I'd appreciate a recommendation from the list on which 4-port NICs work best with the Bering uClibc distro? Any known problems using them with single-port NICs on the same machine? Thanks! --Cal Webster --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595alloc_id=14396op=click leaf-user mailing list: leaf-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html
RE: [leaf-user] Best 4-port NICs?
I'd appreciate a recommendation from the list on which 4-port NICs work best with the Bering uClibc distro? Any known problems using them with single-port NICs on the same machine? The situation is the same as with a normal distro. uClibc uses modules; therefore, you can insert commands just like with a regular distro. Stay away from Tulip based 4-port cards. I have used Intel cards to good effect, especially with newer machines. Older servers sometimes have IRQ issues. On 4 servers here we are using 2 dual 64bit 66mhz+ Intel gigabit adapters to good effect. It is important to get 64bit 66mhz+ cards if you want to push a lot of bandwidth. Regards, P --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_ide95alloc_id396op=click leaf-user mailing list: leaf-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html
RE: [leaf-user] Best 4-port NICs?
Thanks for the info Peter. Here are my choices so far: Intel: Intel PRO/1000 MT Quad Port Server Adapter $337 Osicom: FE-2404-TX - 10/100BTX PCI FAST ENET NIC $329 Adaptec: ANA-64044LV 4-Port, 64-bit/66 MHz PCI NIC $409 Obsolete but available in obscure locations: D-Link: DFE-570TX 4 port 21143 card (avail only on eBay) $80 Phobos: P430 4-port 10/100 NIC (kernelsoftware.com) $248 I'm thinking the Intel NIC would be best, but after looking at it on intel.com I'm not sure it'll fit in a PCI slot. It looks like a PCI/X card. My next choice would be the Osicom card for price/performance, but I've never heard of them before. They say it's based on the Intel 82559 and list Linux as a supported OS so it should work. Adaptec has had the quad NIC for quite a while, but I'm not sure if it uses the tulip drivers that you warned against. Adaptec doesn't say what chip set is used. The two obsolete cards I found while searching. I hesitate to get these because (1) I'm not sure if they're supported, and (2) they may not be available when we need replacements. Our firewall hardware platform uses a passive backplane chassis with Cyber Research PIII-based single board computers. I can't find the SBC documentation so I'm not sure if it'll handle 64-bit PCI transfers. Even so, it shouldn't be worse than 4 single port NICs. Which would you favor? Thanks! --Cal Webster On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 14:08, Peter Mueller wrote: I'd appreciate a recommendation from the list on which 4-port NICs work best with the Bering uClibc distro? Any known problems using them with single-port NICs on the same machine? The situation is the same as with a normal distro. uClibc uses modules; therefore, you can insert commands just like with a regular distro. Stay away from Tulip based 4-port cards. I have used Intel cards to good effect, especially with newer machines. Older servers sometimes have IRQ issues. On 4 servers here we are using 2 dual 64bit 66mhz+ Intel gigabit adapters to good effect. It is important to get 64bit 66mhz+ cards if you want to push a lot of bandwidth. Regards, P --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_ide95alloc_id396op=click leaf-user mailing list: leaf-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_ide95alloc_id396op=click leaf-user mailing list: leaf-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html
RE: [leaf-user] Best 4-port NICs?
Intel: Intel(r) PRO/1000 MT Quad Port Server Adapter $337 Osicom: FE-2404-TX - 10/100BTX PCI FAST ENET NIC $329 D-Link: DFE-570TX 4 port 21143 card (avail only on eBay) $80 I'm thinking the Intel NIC would be best, but after looking at it on intel.com I'm not sure it'll fit in a PCI slot. It looks like a PCI/X card. My next choice would be the Osicom card for price/performance, but I've never heard of them before. They say it's based on the Intel 82559 and list Linux as a supported OS so it should work. Our firewall hardware platform uses a passive backplane chassis with Cyber Research PIII-based single board computers. I can't find the SBC documentation so I'm not sure if it'll handle 64-bit PCI transfers. Even so, it shouldn't be worse than 4 single port NICs. Which would you favor? You didn't mention your bandwidth requirements. I have heard the DLINK-DFE570TX card works, but if I were you I'd prefer the Intel-base cards that are new. If price is an issue look at the DLINK. Especially if you have extra time. Regards, P --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_ide95alloc_id396op=click leaf-user mailing list: leaf-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html
RE: [leaf-user] Best 4-port NICs?
Nothing over 100 Mb this year. Numbers below are maximum bandwidth. The 2 Mb links are cable Internet, and the 1 Mb are old DSL links used as fail-over inter-building links. Legend: * Expect link saturation during peak times + light to moderate traffic load - light traffic load LEAF1: eth0: 100 Mb* eth1: 2 Mb eth2: 1 Mb eth3: 50 Mb * eth4: 50 Mb + LEAF2: eth0: 100 Mb* eth1: 2 Mb eth2: 1 Mb eth3: 50 Mb + eth4: 100 Mb* eth5: 50 Mb + LEAF3: eth0: 100 Mb* eth1: 2 Mb eth2: 1 Mb eth3: 10 Mb - eth4: 100 Mb+ eth5: 10 Mb - LEAF4: eth0: 100 Mb- eth1: 2 Mb eth2: 10 Mb - eth3: 10 Mb - eth4: 10 Mb - In the next 12 months we may upgrade some of the links to Gig Ethernet, though. I'm pretty sure the PCI bus will be the bottleneck when we try to run GE through the routers. At that point, I'll be looking to upgrade the host computers and NICs to PCI/X. --Cal Webster On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 16:18, Peter Mueller wrote: Intel: Intel(r) PRO/1000 MT Quad Port Server Adapter $337 Osicom: FE-2404-TX - 10/100BTX PCI FAST ENET NIC $329 D-Link: DFE-570TX 4 port 21143 card (avail only on eBay) $80 I'm thinking the Intel NIC would be best, but after looking at it on intel.com I'm not sure it'll fit in a PCI slot. It looks like a PCI/X card. My next choice would be the Osicom card for price/performance, but I've never heard of them before. They say it's based on the Intel 82559 and list Linux as a supported OS so it should work. Our firewall hardware platform uses a passive backplane chassis with Cyber Research PIII-based single board computers. I can't find the SBC documentation so I'm not sure if it'll handle 64-bit PCI transfers. Even so, it shouldn't be worse than 4 single port NICs. Which would you favor? You didn't mention your bandwidth requirements. I have heard the DLINK-DFE570TX card works, but if I were you I'd prefer the Intel-base cards that are new. If price is an issue look at the DLINK. Especially if you have extra time. Regards, P --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595alloc_id=14396op=click leaf-user mailing list: leaf-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html
