RE: [Leaf-user] HD Booting with SCSI disk mod loading problem
Maybe your problem is as simple as having the relevant scsi module compiled in the kernel. This means of course you should recompile the kernel in order to have the module as part o the kernel. I recall a similar problem with RedHat that if the module were not in the initrd archive (similar to our root.lrp), scsi boot was not possible. Hope this sheds some light to your problem. p.s. maybe someone on the list could compile a costum kernel for you... -Original Message- From: Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 4:13 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Leaf-user] HD Booting with SCSI disk mod loading problem Evenin All, I have a chicken/egg problem. I am following the HD install advanced section, and have included the code into the spot above the boot line option. I can get the modules loaded by running the script manually once I am booted into the env. However, here is the problem. That script relies on /sbin/insmod being loaded before it is run (obviously). Insmod is loaded in the modules.lrp package, which can't be loaded because the HD isn't mounted yet because it needs the SCSI modules loaded which can't be loaded because the package they're in comes later.see the problem I am having? Can I move insmod into a different package that gets loaded first? What will that break? Has this been discussed before and I am just dense? I assume moving it would include editing the modules.list and the other package.list file to include the directory in backupsright? Thanks a bunch, Tony ___ Leaf-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user ___ Leaf-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user
RE: [Leaf-user] HD Booting with SCSI disk mod loading problem
Good Morning, Na, I have all the modules, just was at a loss how to get /sbin/insmod to load in root.lrp instead of modules.lrp. I had no idea that it was as simple as deleting the lines /sbin/insmod and /sbin/rmmod from /var/lib/lrpkg/modules.list. This forces the files to be backed up with root.lrp hence, loading when I need them to. Believe me, last night I was thinkingHow the hell did Charles get his RAID to work? ...he would have faced the same problem I was. A little more investigating did the trick. Charles, you may want to add that advice again about removing the lines right under the code as well as later in the document. It was mentioned almost in passing, kinda like oh by the way, you'll need to do this of course. Subtlety goes right over my head, I need the clue bat upside the head. Later Tony -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Luis.F.Correia Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 04:20 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [Leaf-user] HD Booting with SCSI disk mod loading problem Maybe your problem is as simple as having the relevant scsi module compiled in the kernel. This means of course you should recompile the kernel in order to have the module as part o the kernel. I recall a similar problem with RedHat that if the module were not in the initrd archive (similar to our root.lrp), scsi boot was not possible. Hope this sheds some light to your problem. p.s. maybe someone on the list could compile a costum kernel for you... -Original Message- From: Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 4:13 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Leaf-user] HD Booting with SCSI disk mod loading problem Evenin All, I have a chicken/egg problem. I am following the HD install advanced section, and have included the code into the spot above the boot line option. I can get the modules loaded by running the script manually once I am booted into the env. However, here is the problem. That script relies on /sbin/insmod being loaded before it is run (obviously). Insmod is loaded in the modules.lrp package, which can't be loaded because the HD isn't mounted yet because it needs the SCSI modules loaded which can't be loaded because the package they're in comes later.see the problem I am having? Can I move insmod into a different package that gets loaded first? What will that break? Has this been discussed before and I am just dense? I assume moving it would include editing the modules.list and the other package.list file to include the directory in backupsright? Thanks a bunch, Tony ___ Leaf-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user ___ Leaf-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user ___ Leaf-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user
RE: [Leaf-user] HD Booting with SCSI disk mod loading problem
No, I have a bad english :) What I mean was: If you compile a NEW kernel with the scsi module as (*) instead of (M), it is part of the kernel. That was what I meant with my previous email... -Original Message- From: Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 12:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Leaf-user] HD Booting with SCSI disk mod loading problem Good Morning, Na, I have all the modules, just was at a loss how to get /sbin/insmod to load in root.lrp instead of modules.lrp. I had no idea that it was as simple as deleting the lines /sbin/insmod and /sbin/rmmod from /var/lib/lrpkg/modules.list. This forces the files to be backed up with root.lrp hence, loading when I need them to. Believe me, last night I was thinkingHow the hell did Charles get his RAID to work? ...he would have faced the same problem I was. A little more investigating did the trick. Charles, you may want to add that advice again about removing the lines right under the code as well as later in the document. It was mentioned almost in passing, kinda like oh by the way, you'll need to do this of course. Subtlety goes right over my head, I need the clue bat upside the head. Later Tony -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Luis.F.Correia Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 04:20 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [Leaf-user] HD Booting with SCSI disk mod loading problem Maybe your problem is as simple as having the relevant scsi module compiled in the kernel. This means of course you should recompile the kernel in order to have the module as part o the kernel. I recall a similar problem with RedHat that if the module were not in the initrd archive (similar to our root.lrp), scsi boot was not possible. Hope this sheds some light to your problem. p.s. maybe someone on the list could compile a costum kernel for you... -Original Message- From: Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 4:13 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Leaf-user] HD Booting with SCSI disk mod loading problem Evenin All, I have a chicken/egg problem. I am following the HD install advanced section, and have included the code into the spot above the boot line option. I can get the modules loaded by running the script manually once I am booted into the env. However, here is the problem. That script relies on /sbin/insmod being loaded before it is run (obviously). Insmod is loaded in the modules.lrp package, which can't be loaded because the HD isn't mounted yet because it needs the SCSI modules loaded which can't be loaded because the package they're in comes later.see the problem I am having? Can I move insmod into a different package that gets loaded first? What will that break? Has this been discussed before and I am just dense? I assume moving it would include editing the modules.list and the other package.list file to include the directory in backupsright? Thanks a bunch, Tony ___ Leaf-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user ___ Leaf-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user ___ Leaf-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user ___ Leaf-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user
RE: [Leaf-user] HD Booting with SCSI disk mod loading problem
Ah, I see, in other words, no need to worry about loading modules, they'd be in the kernel already See what I mean about being subtle? Sometimes I can be as thick as a brick Thanks Luis, Tony -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Luis.F.Correia Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 08:41 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [Leaf-user] HD Booting with SCSI disk mod loading problem No, I have a bad english :) What I mean was: If you compile a NEW kernel with the scsi module as (*) instead of (M), it is part of the kernel. That was what I meant with my previous email... -Original Message- From: Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 12:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Leaf-user] HD Booting with SCSI disk mod loading problem Good Morning, Na, I have all the modules, just was at a loss how to get /sbin/insmod to load in root.lrp instead of modules.lrp. I had no idea that it was as simple as deleting the lines /sbin/insmod and /sbin/rmmod from /var/lib/lrpkg/modules.list. This forces the files to be backed up with root.lrp hence, loading when I need them to. Believe me, last night I was thinkingHow the hell did Charles get his RAID to work? ...he would have faced the same problem I was. A little more investigating did the trick. Charles, you may want to add that advice again about removing the lines right under the code as well as later in the document. It was mentioned almost in passing, kinda like oh by the way, you'll need to do this of course. Subtlety goes right over my head, I need the clue bat upside the head. Later Tony -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Luis.F.Correia Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 04:20 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [Leaf-user] HD Booting with SCSI disk mod loading problem Maybe your problem is as simple as having the relevant scsi module compiled in the kernel. This means of course you should recompile the kernel in order to have the module as part o the kernel. I recall a similar problem with RedHat that if the module were not in the initrd archive (similar to our root.lrp), scsi boot was not possible. Hope this sheds some light to your problem. p.s. maybe someone on the list could compile a costum kernel for you... -Original Message- From: Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 4:13 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Leaf-user] HD Booting with SCSI disk mod loading problem Evenin All, I have a chicken/egg problem. I am following the HD install advanced section, and have included the code into the spot above the boot line option. I can get the modules loaded by running the script manually once I am booted into the env. However, here is the problem. That script relies on /sbin/insmod being loaded before it is run (obviously). Insmod is loaded in the modules.lrp package, which can't be loaded because the HD isn't mounted yet because it needs the SCSI modules loaded which can't be loaded because the package they're in comes later.see the problem I am having? Can I move insmod into a different package that gets loaded first? What will that break? Has this been discussed before and I am just dense? I assume moving it would include editing the modules.list and the other package.list file to include the directory in backupsright? Thanks a bunch, Tony ___ Leaf-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user ___ Leaf-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user ___ Leaf-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user ___ Leaf-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user ___ Leaf-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user
RE: [Leaf-user] HD Booting with SCSI disk mod loading problem
Speaking of SCSI HD's, does anyone know a way to spin down the drive after it has served its purpose? I have seen a couple of old programs that say they can do this, but they are for the 2.0.x kernel. I wrote the author of hdpram and asked if his program will spin down a SCSI drive and he stated no, that it wouldn't work but a small C program interfacing with the sg.o module could do the trick. Any ideas? Thanks Tony ___ Leaf-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user
Re: [Leaf-user] HD Booting with SCSI disk mod loading problem
Na, I have all the modules, just was at a loss how to get /sbin/insmod to load in root.lrp instead of modules.lrp. I had no idea that it was as simple as deleting the lines /sbin/insmod and /sbin/rmmod from /var/lib/lrpkg/modules.list. This forces the files to be backed up with root.lrp hence, loading when I need them to. Believe me, last night I was thinkingHow the hell did Charles get his RAID to work? ...he would have faced the same problem I was. A little more investigating did the trick. Charles, you may want to add that advice again about removing the lines right under the code as well as later in the document. It was mentioned almost in passing, kinda like oh by the way, you'll need to do this of course. Subtlety goes right over my head, I need the clue bat upside the head. Thanks for the feedback, and I'll update the HOWTO making the insmod/rmmod change more prominent. The mentioned in passing aspect is due to the fact that I've been running systems set to load modules at boot (and hence including insmod/rmmod in root.lrp) for ages with my LRP-CD disto... Charles Steinkuehler http://lrp.steinkuehler.net http://c0wz.steinkuehler.net (lrp.c0wz.com mirror) ___ Leaf-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user
RE: [Leaf-user] HD Booting with SCSI disk mod loading problem
Well Thank you for the immediate response! Part of the confusion on my part was I never totally understood how the packages worked. I knew that some parts belonged to some packages, but until I had to worry about it.I didn't. I took it on faith, you guys [developers] knew what to do, and I wasn't curious. But, as is often the case, I need to know how this stuff works inside and out if I insist on customizing the release for my situation. It's the best way to learn I guess. Thanks again, Tony P.S. Does anyone have the hardware tools package (hwtools_0.5-0.2.deb) from Debian installed? Could you send me the binaries? I don't want to install Debian just to extract a couple of binaries and I can't find out how the hell you can extract them without dpkg. Thanks for the feedback, and I'll update the HOWTO making the insmod/rmmod change more prominent. The mentioned in passing aspect is due to the fact that I've been running systems set to load modules at boot (and hence including insmod/rmmod in root.lrp) for ages with my LRP-CD disto... Charles Steinkuehler http://lrp.steinkuehler.net http://c0wz.steinkuehler.net (lrp.c0wz.com mirror) ___ Leaf-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user ___ Leaf-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user
