Re: [leaf-user] 2 3com etherlink III cards

[Lynn Avants]

> I have a box with two 3com etherlink III cards. The 3c509 module only finds
> one. Any idea how to find the second one. Should I load the 3c509 module
> twice?

Use the 3c509 DOS utility to set the cards to "no" PnP and use different i/o
and irq's... this must be done manually. You do not need to call the module 
twice.
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RE: [leaf-user] 2 3com etherlink III cards

[Heriberto Höhlke]

Have you tried lsmod? I have a box with two Realtek (ne2k-pci). smod output
middle column is 2, so there are two instances of the same driver. Your
lsmod has 1 or 2? If you have 2, then the problem are not the cards. I had
the same problem and found out, the cause was firewall's setup, because one
card was in the loc zone  (less secured) and the other in the net zone (most
secured).

I hope this helps you. Regards
Herbert

Hi list,

I have a box with two 3com etherlink III cards. The 3c509 module only finds
one. Any idea how to find the second one. Should I load the 3c509 module
twice?

Thanks for you help.

Chera Bekker



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Re: [leaf-user] 2 3com etherlink III cards

[Lynn Avants]

On Tuesday 14 January 2003 07:55 am, Tony wrote:
> OK, I have to do some testing here.  What I thought were 3c509 cards are
> SMC-Ultra cards in my setup.

Absolutely not, these are extremely different cards and require different
modules. To my knowlege the code is _much_ different between these
modules. The ultra will take options with insmod, whereas the 3c509 will not.
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RE: [leaf-user] 2 3com etherlink III cards

[Tony]

OK, I have to do some testing here.  What I thought were 3c509 cards are
SMC-Ultra cards in my setup.

Perhaps I am wrong with the arguments the 3c509 module takes.  I thought for
sure it took the io arg, but examining the code as well as the other input
from people like Jeff and Brad make me inclined to think I am wrong.  If I
am Eyal, I apologize :)

I will have to convince myself when I get some time by setting up a box with
the 509 cards.

Thanks for all the replies.

Later,

Tony




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Re: [leaf-user] 2 3com etherlink III cards

[Jeff Newmiller]

On Mon, 13 Jan 2003, Eyal Lebedinsky wrote:

> Brad Fritz wrote:
> > 
> > On Sat, 11 Jan 2003 21:21:12 EST Tony wrote:
> > For the record, I have several LEAF boxes with multiple 3c509s in
> > them.  One has six 509s, another has five and several more have
> > two each.)  I do not use the "irq=" parameter with any of them and
> > I have never had problems with them being recognized as long as they
> > are properly configured via the DOS utility.  I always disable the
> > PnP setup and make sure they all use separate IRQs and
> > non-overlapping I/O port addresses.  I also insert them in order by
> > MAC address into the ISA slots to protect my sanity when running
> > cables.  :-)
> 
> Specifying  'irq=...' is a way to force an order. The cards will
> be picked without it too, as you have it.

You must be thinking of some other driver(s)... in my experience, the 509
driver automatically orders the cards by MAC address whether you like it
or not, and does not take any hints otherwise.

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Re: [leaf-user] 2 3com etherlink III cards

[Lynn Avants]

On Sunday 12 January 2003 03:53 pm, Eyal Lebedinsky wrote:
> Brad Fritz wrote:
> > On Sat, 11 Jan 2003 21:21:12 EST Tony wrote:
> > For the record, I have several LEAF boxes with multiple 3c509s in
> > them.  One has six 509s, another has five and several more have
> > two each.)  I do not use the "irq=" parameter with any of them and
> > I have never had problems with them being recognized as long as they
> > are properly configured via the DOS utility.  I always disable the
> > PnP setup and make sure they all use separate IRQs and
> > non-overlapping I/O port addresses.  I also insert them in order by
> > MAC address into the ISA slots to protect my sanity when running
> > cables.  :-)
>
> Specifying  'irq=...' is a way to force an order. The cards will
> be picked without it too, as you have it.

The module code doesn't take the parameter. You might check
the module parameters out at Becker's site. 
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Re: [leaf-user] 2 3com etherlink III cards

[Eyal Lebedinsky]

Brad Fritz wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 11 Jan 2003 21:21:12 EST Tony wrote:
> For the record, I have several LEAF boxes with multiple 3c509s in
> them.  One has six 509s, another has five and several more have
> two each.)  I do not use the "irq=" parameter with any of them and
> I have never had problems with them being recognized as long as they
> are properly configured via the DOS utility.  I always disable the
> PnP setup and make sure they all use separate IRQs and
> non-overlapping I/O port addresses.  I also insert them in order by
> MAC address into the ISA slots to protect my sanity when running
> cables.  :-)

Specifying  'irq=...' is a way to force an order. The cards will
be picked without it too, as you have it.

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Re: [leaf-user] 2 3com etherlink III cards

[Brad Fritz]

On Sat, 11 Jan 2003 21:21:12 EST Tony wrote:

> Eyal,
> 
> Do you mean the 3c509 or the 3c905 module?  You stated 905 below, and 509 in
> one of your previous posts.  I don't know about the 905 module, but the
> 3c509.o most certainly does take the argument.
> 
> That is what I am using right now and without it, the probe finds only one
> card.

For the record, I have several LEAF boxes with multiple 3c509s in
them.  One has six 509s, another has five and several more have
two each.)  I do not use the "irq=" parameter with any of them and
I have never had problems with them being recognized as long as they
are properly configured via the DOS utility.  I always disable the
PnP setup and make sure they all use separate IRQs and
non-overlapping I/O port addresses.  I also insert them in order by
MAC address into the ISA slots to protect my sanity when running
cables.  :-)

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Re: [leaf-user] 2 3com etherlink III cards

[Eyal Lebedinsky]

Tony wrote:
> 
> Eyal,
> 
> Do you mean the 3c509 or the 3c905 module?  You stated 905 below, and 509 in
> one of your previous posts.  I don't know about the 905 module, but the
> 3c509.o most certainly does take the argument.

I am on the subject, the ISA 3com etherlink III -> 3c509.c.
No "io" parm in the source:

MODULE_PARM(debug,"i");
MODULE_PARM(irq,"1-8i");
MODULE_PARM(xcvr,"1-12i");
MODULE_PARM(max_interrupt_work, "i");
MODULE_PARM_DESC(debug, "debug level (0-6)");
MODULE_PARM_DESC(irq, "IRQ number(s) (assigned)");
MODULE_PARM_DESC(xcvr,"tranceiver(s) (0=internal, 1=external)");
MODULE_PARM_DESC(max_interrupt_work, "maximum events handled per
interrupt");
#ifdef CONFIG_ISAPNP
MODULE_PARM(nopnp, "i");
MODULE_PARM_DESC(nopnp, "disable ISA PnP support (0-1)");
#endif  /* CONFIG_ISAPNP */
MODULE_DESCRIPTION("3Com Etherlink III (3c509, 3c509B) ISA/PnP ethernet
driver");

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RE: [leaf-user] 2 3com etherlink III cards

[Tony]

Eyal,

Do you mean the 3c509 or the 3c905 module?  You stated 905 below, and 509 in
one of your previous posts.  I don't know about the 905 module, but the
3c509.o most certainly does take the argument.

That is what I am using right now and without it, the probe finds only one
card.

Later,

Tony



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Tony wrote:
>
> Whatcha need to do is tell the modules file to search for more than the
> first one it finds.
>
> You can do that by specifying the io addys (io=0x200,0x220,etc) or IRQ
> (IRQ=5,7,9,etc).

I am rather sure that 3c905 does not accept 'io='. Use the 'irq=' with
a list.

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Re: [leaf-user] 2 3com etherlink III cards

[fkamp]

No I don't know.

I used the 3com utility under dos.



"H.G. Bekker" wrote:
> 
> Hi Frank,
> 
> Thanks for you reply. I guess both cards are using the same adress or IRQ
> (they came from two seperate computers).  I have found the 3c509 setup and
> diag source on the Scyld site but compiling them on my mandrake 8.2 box makes
> the exe's segfault on my Bering LRP box. Do you know if the setup utils have
> been compiled for the bering system?
> 
> regards
> 
> Chera Bekker
> 
> On Sat January 11 2003 17:32, you wrote:
> > I have had boxes with two and three 3c509 cards.  In each case the only
> > entry in the 'moudules' script was 3c509 without any qualifiers.  That
> > was enough to recognize all cards.  The cards were assigned eth0, eth1,
> > eth2 by ascending MAC addresses.
> >
> > The cards were all set up on different IO and IRQs using a 3com utility
> > under DOS.
> >
> > You might want to check if there are any IRQ or IO address conflicts.
> > Not just between NIC cards but also between other cards and devices in
> > the system.
> >
> > Or, perhaps one of the cards is not working right.
> >
> > On rare occasions I have had problems with old computer motherboards
> > where a card would work in one slot and not work in another slot.  Try
> > moving the card to a different slot.  If that works, you probably have a
> > defective motherboard and may want to replace it.  Old ISA motherboards
> > are cheap.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Frank Kamp
> >
> > "H.G. Bekker" wrote:
> > > Hi list,
> > >
> > > I have a box with two 3com etherlink III cards. The 3c509 module only
> > > finds one. Any idea how to find the second one. Should I load the 3c509
> > > module twice?
> > >
> > > Thanks for you help.
> > >
> > > Chera Bekker
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"H.G. Bekker" wrote:
> 
> Hi Frank,
> 
> Thanks for you reply. I guess both cards are using the same adress or IRQ
> (they came from two seperate computers).  I have found the 3c509 setup and
> diag source on the Scyld site but compiling them on my mandrake 8.2 box makes
> the exe's segfault on my Bering LRP box. Do you know if the setup utils have
> been compiled for the bering system?
> 
> regards
> 
> Chera Bekker
> 
> On Sat January 11 2003 17:32, you wrote:
> > I have had boxes with two and three 3c509 cards.  In each case the only
> > entry in the 'moudules' script was 3c509 without any qualifiers.  That
> > was enough to recognize all cards.  The cards were assigned eth0, eth1,
> > eth2 by ascending MAC addresses.
> >
> > The cards were all set up on different IO and IRQs using a 3com utility
> > under DOS.
> >
> > You might want to check if there are any IRQ or IO address conflicts.
> > Not just between NIC cards but also between other cards and devices in
> > the system.
> >
> > Or, perhaps one of the cards is not working right.
> >
> > On rare occasions I have had problems with old computer motherboards
> > where a card would work in one slot and not work in another slot.  Try
> > moving the card to a different slot.  If that works, you probably have a
> > defective motherboard and may want to replace it.  Old ISA motherboards
> > are cheap.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Frank Kamp
> >
> > "H.G. Bekker" wrote:
> > > Hi list,
> > >
> > > I have a box with two 3com etherlink III cards. The 3c509 module only
> > > finds one. Any idea how to find the second one. Should I load the 3c509
> > > module twice?
> > >
> > > Thanks for you help.
> > >
> > > Chera Bekker
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Re: [leaf-user] 2 3com etherlink III cards

[fkamp]

I have had boxes with two and three 3c509 cards.  In each case the only
entry in the 'moudules' script was 3c509 without any qualifiers.  That
was enough to recognize all cards.  The cards were assigned eth0, eth1,
eth2 by ascending MAC addresses.

The cards were all set up on different IO and IRQs using a 3com utility
under DOS.

You might want to check if there are any IRQ or IO address conflicts. 
Not just between NIC cards but also between other cards and devices in
the system.

Or, perhaps one of the cards is not working right.

On rare occasions I have had problems with old computer motherboards
where a card would work in one slot and not work in another slot.  Try
moving the card to a different slot.  If that works, you probably have a
defective motherboard and may want to replace it.  Old ISA motherboards
are cheap.

Regards,
Frank Kamp

"H.G. Bekker" wrote:
> 
> Hi list,
> 
> I have a box with two 3com etherlink III cards. The 3c509 module only finds
> one. Any idea how to find the second one. Should I load the 3c509 module
> twice?
> 
> Thanks for you help.
> 
> Chera Bekker
> 
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Re: [leaf-user] 2 3com etherlink III cards

[H.G. Bekker]

Hi Frank,

Thanks for you reply. I guess both cards are using the same adress or IRQ 
(they came from two seperate computers).  I have found the 3c509 setup and 
diag source on the Scyld site but compiling them on my mandrake 8.2 box makes 
the exe's segfault on my Bering LRP box. Do you know if the setup utils have 
been compiled for the bering system?

regards

Chera Bekker

On Sat January 11 2003 17:32, you wrote:
> I have had boxes with two and three 3c509 cards.  In each case the only
> entry in the 'moudules' script was 3c509 without any qualifiers.  That
> was enough to recognize all cards.  The cards were assigned eth0, eth1,
> eth2 by ascending MAC addresses.
>
> The cards were all set up on different IO and IRQs using a 3com utility
> under DOS.
>
> You might want to check if there are any IRQ or IO address conflicts.
> Not just between NIC cards but also between other cards and devices in
> the system.
>
> Or, perhaps one of the cards is not working right.
>
> On rare occasions I have had problems with old computer motherboards
> where a card would work in one slot and not work in another slot.  Try
> moving the card to a different slot.  If that works, you probably have a
> defective motherboard and may want to replace it.  Old ISA motherboards
> are cheap.
>
> Regards,
> Frank Kamp
>
> "H.G. Bekker" wrote:
> > Hi list,
> >
> > I have a box with two 3com etherlink III cards. The 3c509 module only
> > finds one. Any idea how to find the second one. Should I load the 3c509
> > module twice?
> >
> > Thanks for you help.
> >
> > Chera Bekker
> >
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