RE: [leaf-user] Bering-uClibc Docs and IPSEC: FreeSwan or OpenSwan?

2005-06-10 Thread Calvin Webster
Wonderful! Thank you! :)


On Thu, 2005-06-09 at 16:01, Mike Noyes wrote:
 On Fri, 2005-04-29 at 11:51, Calvin Webster wrote:
  It would sure be nice to have a single source for the docs, since there
   are so many of them.
 
 Calvin,
 I hope to do that when I upgrade our docbook build script. XIncludes are
 the key, and all the documents in doc should end up in a single
 browse-able entity.
 
 http://leaf-project.org/doc/
 
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RE: [leaf-user] Bering-uClibc Docs and IPSEC: FreeSwan or OpenSwan?

2005-06-09 Thread Mike Noyes
On Fri, 2005-04-29 at 11:51, Calvin Webster wrote:
 It would sure be nice to have a single source for the docs, since there
  are so many of them.

Calvin,
I hope to do that when I upgrade our docbook build script. XIncludes are
the key, and all the documents in doc should end up in a single
browse-able entity.

http://leaf-project.org/doc/

Note: our FAQs will end up in a phpWebSite wiki.

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Re: [leaf-user] Bering-uClibc Docs and IPSEC: FreeSwan or OpenSwan?

2005-05-23 Thread Calvin Webster
Thanks Mike. However I'm working on a RHL9 workstation and it doesn't
have much in the way of XML handling tools, at least not using the
latest DTD's and libs. I tried using the xsltproc installed but I'm
getting tag mismatch and balance errors. I'll just muddle through with
what I have and post questions for what I don't for now. My focus right
now is in getting this network runningn in virtual space so I can finish
modeling it.

--Cal

On Sun, 2005-05-22 at 15:24, Mike Noyes wrote:
 On Fri, 2005-04-29 at 09:51, Calvin Webster wrote:
  I need to get local copies of all the documentation for Bering-uClibc
  and all its packages, especially for OpenSwan which is what's
  contained in the Bering-uClibc IPSEC package (ipsec.lrp).
  
  First, I cannot find a complete documentation package in any form for
  Bering-uClibc. There is a link to a PDF file supposedly containing the
  LEAF Guide Collection, but it is dead. I'd really like to get the HTML
  version, but a comprehensive PDF would be okay.
 
 Calvin,
 PDF generation was disabled. FOP was eating to many resources on the SF
 shell. All of our documentation is in cvs in docbook xml format. You can
 build pdf or any other target using the xslt tool-chain of your choice.
 
 Note: I'm evaluating local pdf build options for publishing on
 our SF shell space.
 
 LEAF Guides (DocBook XML)
 http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/leaf/doc/guide
 
 DocBook Wiki
 http://wiki.docbook.org/



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Re: [leaf-user] Bering-uClibc Docs and IPSEC: FreeSwan or OpenSwan?

2005-05-22 Thread Mike Noyes
On Fri, 2005-04-29 at 09:51, Calvin Webster wrote:
 I need to get local copies of all the documentation for Bering-uClibc
 and all its packages, especially for OpenSwan which is what's
 contained in the Bering-uClibc IPSEC package (ipsec.lrp).
 
 First, I cannot find a complete documentation package in any form for
 Bering-uClibc. There is a link to a PDF file supposedly containing the
 LEAF Guide Collection, but it is dead. I'd really like to get the HTML
 version, but a comprehensive PDF would be okay.

Calvin,
PDF generation was disabled. FOP was eating to many resources on the SF
shell. All of our documentation is in cvs in docbook xml format. You can
build pdf or any other target using the xslt tool-chain of your choice.

Note: I'm evaluating local pdf build options for publishing on
our SF shell space.

LEAF Guides (DocBook XML)
http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/leaf/doc/guide

DocBook Wiki
http://wiki.docbook.org/

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Re: [leaf-user] Bering-uClibc Docs and IPSEC: FreeSwan or OpenSwan?

2005-05-04 Thread cpu memhd
Hello,

The documentation for freeswan/*swan (any that you may find on the net)
leaves much to be desired. And that is putting it mildly according to
some. There is lots of information, but typically hard follow.

One problem that I have is not being able to understand how it
routes/desides to route traffic. I actually gave up learning this part
with out first trying. Instead, I setup GRE tunnels and use kernel
routing and now zebra/ospfd for load balancing and failover. So far
this is working super. But I am still testing.

Anyway, try here:
http://www.freeswan.org/freeswan_trees/freeswan-2.06/doc/index.html

Looks the same but more organized:
http://www.linuxsecurity.com/resource_files/cryptography/FreeSWAN-HOWTO/HowTo.html

The man pages:
http://www.freeswan.org/freeswan_trees/freeswan-2.06/doc/manpage.d/

Download and untar openswan-1.0.9.tar.gz and read the READMES and
CHANGES docs. I find them useful:
http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/leaf/src/bering-uclibc/apps/openswan/

More links:
http://www.av8n.com/vpn/ipsec+routing.htm

My two biggest hurdles were: a) learning through trial and error
instead of instructions, b) figuring out how to manage multiple *swan
installations (sooner or later you will have to start scripting).

Now, since we're on the subject, does any one know the specs for using
the ipsec_null.o module? Despite hours of searching, I still can't
figure this out.





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Re: [leaf-user] Bering-uClibc Docs and IPSEC: FreeSwan or OpenSwan?

2005-04-29 Thread Tom Eastep
Calvin Webster wrote:

 
 Second, the IPSEC documentation on the Shorewall site all refers to
 FreeSwan which does not match the contents of ipsec.lrp. 

The proliferation of Swan species has been an absurd spectacle to
observe to be sure but from the point of view of Shorewall, there are
only two kinds of IPSEC:

A) Kernel 2.4 using *Swan.
B) Kernel 2.6 using any configuration manager/IKE daemon combination.
This includes 2.4 systems running the backported 2.6 Native IPSEC code.

Given that Bering* only runs on the 2.4 kernel and to my knowledge does
not include the backport of the Kernel 2.6 Native IPSEC code, you want
the Kernel 2.4 docs (http://shorewall.net/IPSEC.htm) regardless of what
 color your Swans are.

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Re: [leaf-user] Bering-uClibc Docs and IPSEC: FreeSwan or OpenSwan?

2005-04-29 Thread Calvin Webster
On Fri, 2005-04-29 at 13:16, Tom Eastep wrote:
 Calvin Webster wrote:
 
  
  Second, the IPSEC documentation on the Shorewall site all refers to
  FreeSwan which does not match the contents of ipsec.lrp. 
 
...
 Given that Bering* only runs on the 2.4 kernel and to my knowledge does
 not include the backport of the Kernel 2.6 Native IPSEC code, you want
 the Kernel 2.4 docs (http://shorewall.net/IPSEC.htm) regardless of what
  color your Swans are.
 
 -Tom

Thanks Tom. I've been referencing that page already. It's great for the
configuration items. What about initial IPSEC setup, though (i.e.
generating keys, etc.). That's supposed to be in the *Swan docs that are
missing. What is everyone else using? Am I the only one trying to
survive on pre-built packages?






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Re: [leaf-user] Bering-uClibc Docs and IPSEC: FreeSwan or OpenSwan?

2005-04-29 Thread Tom Eastep
Calvin Webster wrote:

 
 Thanks Tom. I've been referencing that page already. It's great for the
 configuration items. What about initial IPSEC setup, though (i.e.
 generating keys, etc.). That's supposed to be in the *Swan docs that are
 missing. What is everyone else using? Am I the only one trying to
 survive on pre-built packages?

Can't answer that, I'm afraid -- I haven't run *Swan in years.

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Re: [leaf-user] Bering-uClibc Docs and IPSEC: FreeSwan or OpenSwan?

2005-04-29 Thread Tom Eastep
Calvin Webster wrote:

-Tom/
 
 Can I ask what you are using for IPSEC, then? It might be better for me
 than flying blind.
 

I'm using the 2.6 kernel under Debian/Sarge with ipsec-tools/racoon --
not an option with Bering.

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RE: [leaf-user] Bering-uClibc Docs and IPSEC: FreeSwan or OpenSwan?

2005-04-29 Thread Peter Mueller
  Given that Bering* only runs on the 2.4 kernel and to my knowledge 
  does not include the backport of the Kernel 2.6 Native 
 IPSEC code, you 
  want the Kernel 2.4 docs (http://shorewall.net/IPSEC.htm) 
 regardless 
  of what  color your Swans are.
  
  -Tom
 
 Thanks Tom. I've been referencing that page already. It's 
 great for the configuration items. What about initial IPSEC 
 setup, though (i.e. generating keys, etc.). That's supposed 
 to be in the *Swan docs that are missing. What is everyone 
 else using? Am I the only one trying to survive on pre-built packages?

http://leaf.sourceforge.net/doc/guide/buipsec.html

Jacques's documentation is still relevant and nice :).  Bering-uClibC is
basically bering that's more up to date with a smaller compiler.

P


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RE: [leaf-user] Bering-uClibc Docs and IPSEC: FreeSwan or OpenSwan?

2005-04-29 Thread Calvin Webster
On Fri, 2005-04-29 at 14:06, Peter Mueller wrote:
   Given that Bering* only runs on the 2.4 kernel and to my knowledge 
   does not include the backport of the Kernel 2.6 Native 
  IPSEC code, you 
   want the Kernel 2.4 docs (http://shorewall.net/IPSEC.htm) 
  regardless 
   of what  color your Swans are.
   
   -Tom
  
  Thanks Tom. I've been referencing that page already. It's 
  great for the configuration items. What about initial IPSEC 
  setup, though (i.e. generating keys, etc.). That's supposed 
  to be in the *Swan docs that are missing. What is everyone 
  else using? Am I the only one trying to survive on pre-built packages?
 
 http://leaf.sourceforge.net/doc/guide/buipsec.html
 
 Jacques's documentation is still relevant and nice :).  Bering-uClibC is
 basically bering that's more up to date with a smaller compiler.
 
 P
Thank you Peter! I keep forgetting about going back to the Bering docs.
Even though often I have to extrapolate for Bering-uClibc, it's better
than no docs.

You should see my desktop right now. I've got 4 Firefox browsers with 8
or more tabs in each, along with several terminal windows for mounted
LEAF images, running QEMU sessions, gedit, mail and whatnot. It would
sure be nice to have a single source for the docs, since there are so
many of them.



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