Re: [leaf-user] Win2K and LEAF
John Mullan wrote: OK Charles. I understand. As you know by now, I only really do this stuff at home. I have helped a buddy by putting a LEAF router at his office. So, not being the guru and not having a great amount of time, I will eventually read bits and pieces. I only ended up with Win2K server because my drive crapped out on Tuesday and I figured that, what the heck. It would give me the ability to keep user profiles in one location. On this scale, it really comes down to what I'm willing to live with and for how long. Right now I timed it and I spend about 1 minute 'Preparing Network Connections'. That's really not too bad. Also, since this is only my home network, I run all servers on one box. It's name is WWW but has FTP and POP3/SMTP. I thought it great to define ftp.mullan.ca, mail.mullan.ca and www.mullan.ca and have them all point to the same box but thanks to M$ that doesn't work anymore as it seems to override my TinyDNS in this respect. (a little of my ranting too :) So really, would it be better to let my M$ box handle internal DNS and let LEAF handle dnscache for internet queries? Is there a package other than TinyDNS that is dynamic and will let the M$ box register hosts? I intentionally know as little as possible about the M$ networking world, but from what I know, and the information provided above, if you don't want to remove AD (and your other MS systems are recent enough to avoid any MS-MS operating problems), you're probably best off using your AD server as the primary DNS for your network. You can probably configure the AD server to query DNSCache on the firewall for internet domains, use your ISP's DNS servers, or make all queries itself. Which option is best depends a lot on your connection to the 'net (bandwidth and latency) and the reliability of your ISP's name servers. I added DNSCache to Dachstein to allow implementing a pre-configured DHCP server, and because my ISP's DNS servers would typically go down about once every other week. You don't *HAVE* to use it, it's simply provided as a convinence. -- Charles Steinkuehler [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html
Re: [leaf-user] Win2K and LEAF
Charles is correct, Windows 2000 should handle it's own DNS if you are using AD. For Windows 2000, outside of AD, it doesn't matter, but AD wants to create a bunch of DNS records for AD to work properly as a name and service resolution tool. You can run it with a properly configured *nix DNS server, but it is just easier to use Win2K for DNS. You can then have Win2K forward onto DNS cache. -Cheers edt - Original Message - From: Charles Steinkuehler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: John Mullan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Leaf-User [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [leaf-user] Win2K and LEAF John Mullan wrote: OK Charles. I understand. As you know by now, I only really do this stuff at home. I have helped a buddy by putting a LEAF router at his office. So, not being the guru and not having a great amount of time, I will eventually read bits and pieces. I only ended up with Win2K server because my drive crapped out on Tuesday and I figured that, what the heck. It would give me the ability to keep user profiles in one location. On this scale, it really comes down to what I'm willing to live with and for how long. Right now I timed it and I spend about 1 minute 'Preparing Network Connections'. That's really not too bad. Also, since this is only my home network, I run all servers on one box. It's name is WWW but has FTP and POP3/SMTP. I thought it great to define ftp.mullan.ca, mail.mullan.ca and www.mullan.ca and have them all point to the same box but thanks to M$ that doesn't work anymore as it seems to override my TinyDNS in this respect. (a little of my ranting too :) So really, would it be better to let my M$ box handle internal DNS and let LEAF handle dnscache for internet queries? Is there a package other than TinyDNS that is dynamic and will let the M$ box register hosts? I intentionally know as little as possible about the M$ networking world, but from what I know, and the information provided above, if you don't want to remove AD (and your other MS systems are recent enough to avoid any MS-MS operating problems), you're probably best off using your AD server as the primary DNS for your network. You can probably configure the AD server to query DNSCache on the firewall for internet domains, use your ISP's DNS servers, or make all queries itself. Which option is best depends a lot on your connection to the 'net (bandwidth and latency) and the reliability of your ISP's name servers. I added DNSCache to Dachstein to allow implementing a pre-configured DHCP server, and because my ISP's DNS servers would typically go down about once every other week. You don't *HAVE* to use it, it's simply provided as a convinence. -- Charles Steinkuehler [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html
RE: [leaf-user] Win2K and LEAF
OK Charles. I understand. As you know by now, I only really do this stuff at home. I have helped a buddy by putting a LEAF router at his office. So, not being the guru and not having a great amount of time, I will eventually read bits and pieces. I only ended up with Win2K server because my drive crapped out on Tuesday and I figured that, what the heck. It would give me the ability to keep user profiles in one location. On this scale, it really comes down to what I'm willing to live with and for how long. Right now I timed it and I spend about 1 minute 'Preparing Network Connections'. That's really not too bad. Also, since this is only my home network, I run all servers on one box. It's name is WWW but has FTP and POP3/SMTP. I thought it great to define ftp.mullan.ca, mail.mullan.ca and www.mullan.ca and have them all point to the same box but thanks to M$ that doesn't work anymore as it seems to override my TinyDNS in this respect. (a little of my ranting too :) So really, would it be better to let my M$ box handle internal DNS and let LEAF handle dnscache for internet queries? Is there a package other than TinyDNS that is dynamic and will let the M$ box register hosts? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Charles Steinkuehler Sent: February 8, 2003 10:26 PM To: John Mullan Cc: Leaf-User Subject: Re: [leaf-user] Win2K and LEAF John Mullan wrote: OK. I did my research and found that Win2K Server 'Active Directory' requires and DNS server with active/dynamic record keeping. My DNS is TinyDNS on my LEAF box. TinyDNS does not register computer names (ie; mullan2 = mullan2.mullan.ca). When the Win2K box boots up, it takes 5-10 minutes to figure this out. Can anyone share with me a good way to make these two boxes co-exist peacefully? IE; Make my private TinyDNS dynamic (probably not) or to make the Win2K box forget about the DNS problem? Reinstall Win2K server without AD, or spend the time and effort to come up to speed on how M$ expects you to do networking (be prepared to buy about 3X more server licenses than you ever thought you'd need, as well as upgrade every box on your network to 2K or XP...or just live with the broken-ness Microsoft forces on you to try and get you to upgrade). It might help to through some online references as well...a google search for microsoft co-opting internet standards should turn up some good reading material. BTW: Can you tell I just had a junior network admin replace a failed NT domain controller with 2KServer (with Active Directory installed) because it has to be better than NT, and we'll have to upgrade someday anyway, right?!?. sigh ...sorry about the rant :-/ -- Charles Steinkuehler [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html
Re: [leaf-user] Win2K and LEAF
On Saturday 08 February 2003 06:39 am, John Mullan wrote: OK. I did my research and found that Win2K Server 'Active Directory' requires and DNS server with active/dynamic record keeping. My DNS is TinyDNS on my LEAF box. TinyDNS does not register computer names (ie; mullan2 = mullan2.mullan.ca). When the Win2K box boots up, it takes 5-10 minutes to figure this out. Can anyone share with me a good way to make these two boxes co-exist peacefully? IE; Make my private TinyDNS dynamic (probably not) or to make the Win2K box forget about the DNS problem? Search the leaf-user archives for 'Win2k DNS', there's a post a couple of months ago that describes a way to prevent Windows from doing this. -- ~Lynn Avants Linux Embedded Firewall Project developer http://leaf.sourceforge.net --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html
Re: [leaf-user] Win2K and LEAF
John Mullan wrote: OK. I did my research and found that Win2K Server 'Active Directory' requires and DNS server with active/dynamic record keeping. My DNS is TinyDNS on my LEAF box. TinyDNS does not register computer names (ie; mullan2 = mullan2.mullan.ca). When the Win2K box boots up, it takes 5-10 minutes to figure this out. Can anyone share with me a good way to make these two boxes co-exist peacefully? IE; Make my private TinyDNS dynamic (probably not) or to make the Win2K box forget about the DNS problem? Reinstall Win2K server without AD, or spend the time and effort to come up to speed on how M$ expects you to do networking (be prepared to buy about 3X more server licenses than you ever thought you'd need, as well as upgrade every box on your network to 2K or XP...or just live with the broken-ness Microsoft forces on you to try and get you to upgrade). It might help to through some online references as well...a google search for microsoft co-opting internet standards should turn up some good reading material. BTW: Can you tell I just had a junior network admin replace a failed NT domain controller with 2KServer (with Active Directory installed) because it has to be better than NT, and we'll have to upgrade someday anyway, right?!?. sigh ...sorry about the rant :-/ -- Charles Steinkuehler [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html
Re: [leaf-user] Win2K and LEAF
On Saturday 08 February 2003 09:26 pm, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: BTW: Can you tell I just had a junior network admin replace a failed NT domain controller with 2KServer (with Active Directory installed) because it has to be better than NT, and we'll have to upgrade someday anyway, right?!?. sigh ...sorry about the rant :-/ Been there.. it started my addiction to Xbill. -- ~Lynn Avants Linux Embedded Firewall Project developer http://leaf.sourceforge.net --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html
