Re: [LU] For those keeping score

2013-02-21 Thread Paul Cundell
What utter tosh!
But in a fortnight that's seen us struggle against Wolves, lose abjectly to
Boro and be humiliated by Citeh, I suppose you've got to cling to every
glimmer of hope. Sure we out played Blackpool for long periods but we were
a couple of Kenny saves from another abject defeat. To proclaim Morison as
the messiah and that this is the end of hoofball is as ridiculous as
intimating that hoofball was caused by Becchio. Colin obviously doesn't
rate McCormack and preferred to play Becchio to McCormack, Poleon or Varney
- hoofball is therefore Colin's interpretation of football and whilst he's
still in charge it won't have gone away.
One swallow doesn't make a summer.

Rich W wrote:

Well done Mark, brings out the Becchio fans. Anyone who went last
night cannot deny that the future looks bright PBH (Post Becchio
Hoofball) and surely his most ardent fans can't deny that performances
are improving and in Morrison we have a more than adequate
replacement.

More comments later if I get time.

Luke Varney - man of the match, if only he had a football brain I'd be
saying get him in the England team.
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Re: [LU] For those keeping score

2013-02-21 Thread Richard Walker
Calm down fella - I never proclaimed Morrison as the messiah , I think I said 
'adequate replacement' so stop making stuff up. 
 
I also said Luke Varney for England - you didn't pick up and that one. 
 
Yes it's one game but its the best football we've played for a while. Blackpool 
have some decent players - remember they've beaten us regularly and easily 
recently. If we lose dismally against Blackburn it will be all doom and gloom 
again but you're only as good as your last game and for me that means we're a 
half decent team. 
 


 From: Paul Cundell p...@cundell.com
To: Richard Walker richleed...@yahoo.co.uk 
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org 
Sent: Thursday, 21 February 2013, 8:18
Subject: Re: [LU] For those keeping score
  

What utter tosh!
But in a fortnight that's seen us struggle against Wolves, lose abjectly to 
Boro and be humiliated by Citeh, I suppose you've got to cling to every glimmer 
of hope. Sure we out played Blackpool for long periods but we were a couple of 
Kenny saves from another abject defeat. To proclaim Morison as the messiah and 
that this is the end of hoofball is as ridiculous as intimating that hoofball 
was caused by Becchio. Colin obviously doesn't rate McCormack and preferred to 
play Becchio to McCormack, Poleon or Varney - hoofball is therefore Colin's 
interpretation of football and whilst he's still in charge it won't have gone 
away. 
One swallow doesn't make a summer.

Rich W wrote:
Well done Mark, brings out the Becchio fans. Anyone who went last night cannot 
deny that the future looks bright PBH (Post Becchio Hoofball) and surely his 
most ardent fans can't deny that performances are improving and in Morrison we 
have a more than adequate replacement.  More comments later if I get time. Luke 
Varney - man of the match, if only he had a football brain I'd be saying get 
him in the England team.  
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Re: [LU] For those keeping score

2013-02-21 Thread Richard Walker
and by the way - hoofball is based around Becchio's limitations. He was a major 
constraint to the team. A bit of pace and movement and things change 
dramatically - couldn't you see that last night ? 

 


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To: Richard Walker richleed...@yahoo.co.uk 
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Sent: Thursday, 21 February 2013, 8:18
Subject: Re: [LU] For those keeping score
  

What utter tosh!
But in a fortnight that's seen us struggle against Wolves, lose abjectly to 
Boro and be humiliated by Citeh, I suppose you've got to cling to every glimmer 
of hope. Sure we out played Blackpool for long periods but we were a couple of 
Kenny saves from another abject defeat. To proclaim Morison as the messiah and 
that this is the end of hoofball is as ridiculous as intimating that hoofball 
was caused by Becchio. Colin obviously doesn't rate McCormack and preferred to 
play Becchio to McCormack, Poleon or Varney - hoofball is therefore Colin's 
interpretation of football and whilst he's still in charge it won't have gone 
away. 
One swallow doesn't make a summer.

Rich W wrote:
Well done Mark, brings out the Becchio fans. Anyone who went last night cannot 
deny that the future looks bright PBH (Post Becchio Hoofball) and surely his 
most ardent fans can't deny that performances are improving and in Morrison we 
have a more than adequate replacement.  More comments later if I get time. Luke 
Varney - man of the match, if only he had a football brain I'd be saying get 
him in the England team.  
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Re: [LU] Thankyou lads

2013-02-21 Thread Ted
Dave wrote:

 Looking forward to a match report. I hope it was a healthy proportion of
 us playing well as opposed to to Blackpool being poor.



I'm sorry - I'm not much of a reporter/pundit but a couple of points from
me:

Firstly, people actually were smiling... yes, smiling, as they came out of
a league game at Elland Road!  For me, the best home performance of the
season.

Some things to take heart from:
Morison scoring - took it well.  this will give him confidence and he can
only keep improving as he gets match fit.
Varney - man of the match for me.  Got everywhere and even acknowledged the
fans at the end!  He also wins a lot of headers for someone not so tall.
Crowd: 25,500 for a mid week game.  The lowered prices added about 8000
(nigh-on 50%) on what we could have expected, especially considering how
dire our performances have been (even though NW is quick to point out we've
had lots of wins at home).  We may have had some wins, but the nature of
them has been very poor.
And - we tried to pass it!

I don't follow the a win's a win idea.  If you play crap (like we've been
doing) eventually you get caught out.  If you try to play well, the results
should come.  I pay my money to be entertained.

Admittedly last night Kenny made two top class saves in the first half
(although we did have our fair amount of chances) - who knows what the
outcome would have been had those gone in - but they didn't!  Both teams
tried to play football and to be fair, I thought Blackpool's midfield got
the better of ours in the first half.

So, I might reconsider renewing after all - if we keep this going!

Ted H
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Re: [LU] For those keeping score

2013-02-21 Thread Paul Cundell
Hoofball may well have been based on Becchio's limitations but the guy who
picked him ahead of others you rate above Becchio is still picking the team
and tactics. Colin didn't have to pick Becchio and play Hoofball, he chose
to. Becchio didn't pick the team or the tactics, Colin did. Colin also
picked the team and tactics last Tuesday and on Sunday both post Becchio
and if those performances are the 'future' god help us.
--
*From:* Richard Walker*
*

and by the way - hoofball is based around Becchio's limitations. He was a
major constraint to the team. A bit of pace and movement and things change
dramatically - couldn't you see that last night ?
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Re: [LU] For those keeping score

2013-02-21 Thread Richard Walker
Paul - everyone always has a go at me for being a pessimist. So I'm going to 
give you a bit of what I normally get. 
 
Get over Boro that was over a week ago, we should have beaten Wolves and Man 
City are the champions of England. 
 
Last night, we won, played well , looked lively and are back in with a chance 
of getting in the play offs if we win our game in hand. The future temporarily 
looks bright. I'm going to put some money on us going up this season. 
 
We are Leeds. 
 


 From: Paul Cundell p...@cundell.com
To: Richard Walker richleed...@yahoo.co.uk 
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org 
Sent: Thursday, 21 February 2013, 8:42
Subject: Re: [LU] For those keeping score
  

Hoofball may well have been based on Becchio's limitations but the guy who 
picked him ahead of others you rate above Becchio is still picking the team and 
tactics. Colin didn't have to pick Becchio and play Hoofball, he chose to. 
Becchio didn't pick the team or the tactics, Colin did. Colin also picked the 
team and tactics last Tuesday and on Sunday both post Becchio and if those 
performances are the 'future' god help us.




From: Richard Walker


and by the way - hoofball is based around Becchio's limitations. He was a major 
constraint to the team. A bit of pace and movement and things change 
dramatically - couldn't you see that last night ?  
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Re: [LU] For those keeping score

2013-02-21 Thread Paul Cundell
adequate replacement for who? Becchio? We've been led to believe that
your nan would be an adequate replacement for Becchio.

I assumed you were on some of Naefy's substances when mentioning Varney and
England in the same sentence. Varney was at the club whilst Becchio was
here, why didn't Colin pick him - he signed him after all.

Blackpool beat us under Holloway who left in November, they haven't had a
manager for a month and are a shadow of the team that beat us before, yet
still we made them look good. Paddy Kenny was the difference between the
two last night.

--
*From:* Richard Walker*
*

Calm down fella - I never proclaimed Morrison as the messiah , I think
I said 'adequate replacement' so stop making stuff up.

I also said Luke Varney for England - you didn't pick up and that one.

Yes it's one game but its the best football we've played for a while.
Blackpool have some decent players - remember they've beaten us
regularly and easily recently. If we lose dismally against Blackburn
it will be all doom and gloom again but you're only as good as your
last game and for me that means we're a half decent team.
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Re: [LU] For those keeping score

2013-02-21 Thread Dr Michael Benjamin
God almighty you've just taken my mantle as the list's manic-depressive.
Wear it with honour and pride!


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On 21 February 2013 10:51, Richard Walker richleed...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 Paul - everyone always has a go at me for being a pessimist. So I'm going
 to give you a bit of what I normally get.

 Get over Boro that was over a week ago, we should have beaten Wolves and
 Man City are the champions of England.

 Last night, we won, played well , looked lively and are back in with a
 chance of getting in the play offs if we win our game in hand. The future
 temporarily looks bright. I'm going to put some money on us going up this
 season.

 We are Leeds.


 
  From: Paul Cundell p...@cundell.com
 To: Richard Walker richleed...@yahoo.co.uk
 Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
 Sent: Thursday, 21 February 2013, 8:42
 Subject: Re: [LU] For those keeping score


 Hoofball may well have been based on Becchio's limitations but the guy who
 picked him ahead of others you rate above Becchio is still picking the team
 and tactics. Colin didn't have to pick Becchio and play Hoofball, he chose
 to. Becchio didn't pick the team or the tactics, Colin did. Colin also
 picked the team and tactics last Tuesday and on Sunday both post Becchio
 and if those performances are the 'future' god help us.


 

 From: Richard Walker


 and by the way - hoofball is based around Becchio's limitations. He was a
 major constraint to the team. A bit of pace and movement and things change
 dramatically - couldn't you see that last night ?
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Re: [LU] For those keeping score

2013-02-21 Thread Paul Cundell
You ARE on some of Naefy's substances!
Save your money and buy the young un, or the wife, a teddy instead.

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I'm going to put some money on us going up this season.
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Re: [LU] Thankyou lads

2013-02-21 Thread Sutton / Smail
And - we tried to pass it!This makes good reading! I agree when you say 
you don't subscribe to opinion that a win is a win For sure, poor wins 
have little future. I'd much preferto be drawing (or perhaps even losing) 
having played a positive game and trying to do all the right things. I don't 
understand how sometimes we play this long hoof ball and other times we play 
passing - or at least try to. Perhaps it's to do with the quality of the 
oppo, if we're being over-run then panichoofing tactics are forced upon us. 
Or does NW brief the team before hand and say Ok guys, passing didn't work 
last week, let's try our hoofing plan todayI wonder if the reduced match 
price tickets and the larger crowds ended up with more revenue. Even if it 
was break even in money terms, a bigger home crowdhelps the team. Will this 
ticket pricing policy continue?Dave 


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Re: [LU] For those keeping score

2013-02-21 Thread Richard Naef
You ARE on some of Naefy's substances!

oi, they make me insightful, interesting and attractive, not stark raving
bonkers!

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Re: [LU] For those keeping score

2013-02-21 Thread Ian Murray
Anyone got a link to the goals? 

Sent from my iPhone

On 21 Feb 2013, at 16:33, Richard Walker richleed...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 Calm down fella - I never proclaimed Morrison as the messiah , I think I said 
 'adequate replacement' so stop making stuff up. 
  
 I also said Luke Varney for England - you didn't pick up and that one. 
  
 Yes it's one game but its the best football we've played for a while. 
 Blackpool have some decent players - remember they've beaten us regularly and 
 easily recently. If we lose dismally against Blackburn it will be all doom 
 and gloom again but you're only as good as your last game and for me that 
 means we're a half decent team. 
 
 
 
 From: Paul Cundell p...@cundell.com
 To: Richard Walker richleed...@yahoo.co.uk 
 Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org 
 Sent: Thursday, 21 February 2013, 8:18
 Subject: Re: [LU] For those keeping score
 
 
 What utter tosh!
 But in a fortnight that's seen us struggle against Wolves, lose abjectly to 
 Boro and be humiliated by Citeh, I suppose you've got to cling to every 
 glimmer of hope. Sure we out played Blackpool for long periods but we were a 
 couple of Kenny saves from another abject defeat. To proclaim Morison as the 
 messiah and that this is the end of hoofball is as ridiculous as intimating 
 that hoofball was caused by Becchio. Colin obviously doesn't rate McCormack 
 and preferred to play Becchio to McCormack, Poleon or Varney - hoofball is 
 therefore Colin's interpretation of football and whilst he's still in charge 
 it won't have gone away. 
 One swallow doesn't make a summer.
 
 Rich W wrote:
 Well done Mark, brings out the Becchio fans. Anyone who went last night 
 cannot deny that the future looks bright PBH (Post Becchio Hoofball) and 
 surely his most ardent fans can't deny that performances are improving and in 
 Morrison we have a more than adequate replacement.  More comments later if I 
 get time. Luke Varney - man of the match, if only he had a football brain I'd 
 be saying get him in the England team.  
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[LU] Blackpool

2013-02-21 Thread David Nattan
Well done Colin, well done GFH, and well done all the players. That was
good and enjoyable. During the afternoon I was tempted to give the game a
miss and go to run my cubs as per usual on a Wednesday but I stuck with the
lads and I am really glad I did!
At kick off it was great to look around the ground and see a full South
Stand - the £15 experiment worked as 25,500 fans turned up in place of the
17,000 or so who would otherwise have come. So we had 15,000 paying as
opposed to 7,000 (we have 10k ST holders) so I would have thought, even
allowing for kids, the gate receipts would be similar. So whilst 25k is
nothing to get carried away with it was a big increase in recent midweek
crowds and hopefully the 'returners' will be happy with what they saw
The extra fans seemed to inspire the players right from the off, as they
went about their task with a passion and commitment not seen in (m)any
League games this season.
We were on the front foot with a 4 3 3 system which led to Varney, Morison
and McCormack interchanging and linking up quite well.
Behind them Green, Tonge and Norris were lively and had some good pass and
move stuff.
As fans what we ask for is a bit of effort and a bit of skill and we got
both yesterday. We were pretty much camped in their half and had a number
of decent chances and half chance in the opening 45mins. The best probably
fell to Morison who charged down a clearance and took the ball past the
keeper, the angle was very tight as he shot and the ball hit a defender on
the line and fell to McCormack whose shot was also charged down. Warnock
(the full back) took the ball the whole length of the field and put in a
good cross that we were unable to get on the end of, later another good
cross was met by a Varney header but he was unable to get above the ball
and it went over. McCormack and Varney both had decent shots which were
saved / shaved the post as we continued to dominate.
We did have a couple of scares when Blackpool broke quickly and Kenny had
to pull off one great save from a shot just inside the area, the loose ball
fell to a Blackpool player who put it in - luckily he was offside and the
lino had spotted it.
The ref (once again ?) gave us nothing - they got away with a blatant
'keeper picking up a backpass'  Warnock was chopped down and the ref gave
it to them etc.
So half time came and there was a bit of a buzz around the place that has
been missing recently , although we were also worried that we would rue the
missed chances.
Thankfully the second half proved to be a carbon copy of the first as we
continued to dominate both possession - unusual for us- and territory and
for once, actually created chances. Eventually the breakthrough came as a
corner from McCormack was hit quite low and Green bent to try and get to it
and missed the ball but so did the defenders and it fell to Norris just
inside the penalty area - he hit it sweetly through a crowd of players ,
keeping it down and hitting it hard. The keeper, seeing it late, had no
chance. The crowd went wild. Could we go on to win ? Well we nearly made it
very hard for ourselves as Blackpool waltzed through us and put in a great
low cross that thankfully no-one could quite touch into the net. Then a few
minutes later some good interplay ended with Byram chipping in a lovely
ball, Norris bent and tried to head it back to tee up Green but ex Leeds
scapegoat Crainey intercepted the pass and his 'clearance went across the
area into the six yard box to an unmarked Morison - this was the moment of
truth for him - the new striker or the new Billy Barndoor ?- well he
controlled it with his first touch and then with his second he buried it
into the net , a good finish but it seemed to be in slow motion.
So 2 0 and the question now was could we keep a clean sheet. We defended
deeper and deeper and failed to keep the ball so it kept coming back but we
mainly restricted them. Then to shore things up on came Brown and his first
action was to foul a forward going nowhere on the edge of the box.
Thankfully they wasted the good opportunity. They had one other good chance
when the forward headed over when he should have scored and so we held on
for  a deserved victory and a deserved clean sheet.Only our second home
league win of the season where we have won by more than one goal.
So hats off all round and it does keep the dream alive for a little while
longer - I think it is just a dream,. only Boro are catchable and we are
still 6 points above us (albeit we have a game in hand) , Brighton are much
closer to them and both have a better goal difference.
As for individuals - before the game we wondered whether Ashdown should get
the nod over Kenny, but Kenny proved his worth today with a couple of good
saves in a match in which he was mainly redundant.
It was my first view of both Stephen Warnock and Morison . Warnock was what
I expected solid but unspectacular , he did his job and looked decent with
one good run. Morison was a bit of a mixed 

Re: [LU] Thankyou lads

2013-02-21 Thread Richard Walker
me too Ted. 
 
Fuck the miserable bastards who are still crying over Becchio.  Things are 
improving. 
 


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To: leeds List (Post to list) leedslist@gn.apc.org 
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Subject: Re: [LU] Thankyou lads
  
Dave wrote:

 Looking forward to a match report. I hope it was a healthy proportion of
 us playing well as opposed to to Blackpool being poor.



I'm sorry - I'm not much of a reporter/pundit but a couple of points from
me:

Firstly, people actually were smiling... yes, smiling, as they came out of
a league game at Elland Road!  For me, the best home performance of the
season.

Some things to take heart from:
Morison scoring - took it well.  this will give him confidence and he can
only keep improving as he gets match fit.
Varney - man of the match for me.  Got everywhere and even acknowledged the
fans at the end!  He also wins a lot of headers for someone not so tall.
Crowd: 25,500 for a mid week game.  The lowered prices added about 8000
(nigh-on 50%) on what we could have expected, especially considering how
dire our performances have been (even though NW is quick to point out we've
had lots of wins at home).  We may have had some wins, but the nature of
them has been very poor.
And - we tried to pass it!

I don't follow the a win's a win idea.  If you play crap (like we've been
doing) eventually you get caught out.  If you try to play well, the results
should come.  I pay my money to be entertained.

Admittedly last night Kenny made two top class saves in the first half
(although we did have our fair amount of chances) - who knows what the
outcome would have been had those gone in - but they didn't!  Both teams
tried to play football and to be fair, I thought Blackpool's midfield got
the better of ours in the first half.

So, I might reconsider renewing after all - if we keep this going!

Ted H
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Re: [LU] Blackpool

2013-02-21 Thread Robert Heath
One thing to add, having watched the goals (for whomsoeer it was who asked,
look for them in Daily Motion), it was a really good and confident finish
by Morison. He opened up his body as if to shoot across the keeper, waited
for him to dive, then put it in the top of the net on the nearside. To
convert your first chance in front of the kop at a new club like that is
the sign to me of a natural finisher. Very impressive.

On 21 February 2013 13:31, David Nattan nat...@sky.com wrote:

 Well done Colin, well done GFH, and well done all the players. That was
 good and enjoyable. During the afternoon I was tempted to give the game a
 miss and go to run my cubs as per usual on a Wednesday but I stuck with the
 lads and I am really glad I did!
 At kick off it was great to look around the ground and see a full South
 Stand - the £15 experiment worked as 25,500 fans turned up in place of the
 17,000 or so who would otherwise have come. So we had 15,000 paying as
 opposed to 7,000 (we have 10k ST holders) so I would have thought, even
 allowing for kids, the gate receipts would be similar. So whilst 25k is
 nothing to get carried away with it was a big increase in recent midweek
 crowds and hopefully the 'returners' will be happy with what they saw
 The extra fans seemed to inspire the players right from the off, as they
 went about their task with a passion and commitment not seen in (m)any
 League games this season.
 We were on the front foot with a 4 3 3 system which led to Varney, Morison
 and McCormack interchanging and linking up quite well.
 Behind them Green, Tonge and Norris were lively and had some good pass and
 move stuff.
 As fans what we ask for is a bit of effort and a bit of skill and we got
 both yesterday. We were pretty much camped in their half and had a number
 of decent chances and half chance in the opening 45mins. The best probably
 fell to Morison who charged down a clearance and took the ball past the
 keeper, the angle was very tight as he shot and the ball hit a defender on
 the line and fell to McCormack whose shot was also charged down. Warnock
 (the full back) took the ball the whole length of the field and put in a
 good cross that we were unable to get on the end of, later another good
 cross was met by a Varney header but he was unable to get above the ball
 and it went over. McCormack and Varney both had decent shots which were
 saved / shaved the post as we continued to dominate.
 We did have a couple of scares when Blackpool broke quickly and Kenny had
 to pull off one great save from a shot just inside the area, the loose ball
 fell to a Blackpool player who put it in - luckily he was offside and the
 lino had spotted it.
 The ref (once again ?) gave us nothing - they got away with a blatant
 'keeper picking up a backpass'  Warnock was chopped down and the ref gave
 it to them etc.
 So half time came and there was a bit of a buzz around the place that has
 been missing recently , although we were also worried that we would rue the
 missed chances.
 Thankfully the second half proved to be a carbon copy of the first as we
 continued to dominate both possession - unusual for us- and territory and
 for once, actually created chances. Eventually the breakthrough came as a
 corner from McCormack was hit quite low and Green bent to try and get to it
 and missed the ball but so did the defenders and it fell to Norris just
 inside the penalty area - he hit it sweetly through a crowd of players ,
 keeping it down and hitting it hard. The keeper, seeing it late, had no
 chance. The crowd went wild. Could we go on to win ? Well we nearly made it
 very hard for ourselves as Blackpool waltzed through us and put in a great
 low cross that thankfully no-one could quite touch into the net. Then a few
 minutes later some good interplay ended with Byram chipping in a lovely
 ball, Norris bent and tried to head it back to tee up Green but ex Leeds
 scapegoat Crainey intercepted the pass and his 'clearance went across the
 area into the six yard box to an unmarked Morison - this was the moment of
 truth for him - the new striker or the new Billy Barndoor ?- well he
 controlled it with his first touch and then with his second he buried it
 into the net , a good finish but it seemed to be in slow motion.
 So 2 0 and the question now was could we keep a clean sheet. We defended
 deeper and deeper and failed to keep the ball so it kept coming back but we
 mainly restricted them. Then to shore things up on came Brown and his first
 action was to foul a forward going nowhere on the edge of the box.
 Thankfully they wasted the good opportunity. They had one other good chance
 when the forward headed over when he should have scored and so we held on
 for  a deserved victory and a deserved clean sheet.Only our second home
 league win of the season where we have won by more than one goal.
 So hats off all round and it does keep the dream alive for a little while
 longer - I think it is just a dream,. only 

Re: [LU] Thankyou lads

2013-02-21 Thread Dr Michael Benjamin
I Becchio really the anti- Christ ?


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On 21 February 2013 10:53, Richard Walker richleed...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 me too Ted.

 Fuck the miserable bastards who are still crying over Becchio.  Things are
 improving.


 
  From: Ted tedhea...@gmail.com
 To: leeds List (Post to list) leedslist@gn.apc.org
 Sent: Thursday, 21 February 2013, 8:37
 Subject: Re: [LU] Thankyou lads

 Dave wrote:

  Looking forward to a match report. I hope it was a healthy proportion of
  us playing well as opposed to to Blackpool being poor.
 
 

 I'm sorry - I'm not much of a reporter/pundit but a couple of points from
 me:

 Firstly, people actually were smiling... yes, smiling, as they came out of
 a league game at Elland Road!  For me, the best home performance of the
 season.

 Some things to take heart from:
 Morison scoring - took it well.  this will give him confidence and he can
 only keep improving as he gets match fit.
 Varney - man of the match for me.  Got everywhere and even acknowledged the
 fans at the end!  He also wins a lot of headers for someone not so tall.
 Crowd: 25,500 for a mid week game.  The lowered prices added about 8000
 (nigh-on 50%) on what we could have expected, especially considering how
 dire our performances have been (even though NW is quick to point out we've
 had lots of wins at home).  We may have had some wins, but the nature of
 them has been very poor.
 And - we tried to pass it!

 I don't follow the a win's a win idea.  If you play crap (like we've been
 doing) eventually you get caught out.  If you try to play well, the results
 should come.  I pay my money to be entertained.

 Admittedly last night Kenny made two top class saves in the first half
 (although we did have our fair amount of chances) - who knows what the
 outcome would have been had those gone in - but they didn't!  Both teams
 tried to play football and to be fair, I thought Blackpool's midfield got
 the better of ours in the first half.

 So, I might reconsider renewing after all - if we keep this going!

 Ted H
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[LU] Link to goals - someone asked for them - I have found this

2013-02-21 Thread David Nattan
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xxnpu7#.USX8Nh1hiSo
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[LU] Just vomited

2013-02-21 Thread Dr Michael Benjamin
FFS is this the way to go?
Just gives us stability and results.
Wanker

Salem Patel @SalemPatel
On my way home, happy in the knowledge when we all work together, how great
it can be. #mot

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Re: [LU] Just vomited

2013-02-21 Thread David Nattan
interview with Patel on Yorkshire Radio

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xxnyi6_follow-weareleedsmot3-salem-patel-interview-on-yorkshire-radio-lufc_sport#.USYKFx1hiSo

Just started to listen to it

Dave




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 FFS is this the way to go?
 Just gives us stability and results.
 Wanker

 Salem Patel @SalemPatel
 On my way home, happy in the knowledge when we all work together, how great
 it can be. #mot

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[LU] patel interview

2013-02-21 Thread David Nattan
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xxnyi6_follow-weareleedsmot3-salem-patel-interview-on-yorkshire-radio-lufc_sport#.USYKFx1hiSo

Have listened to it and he talks quite well - no real revelations there but
some sense and clears up a couple of points
Putting some emphasis on prices etc being up to fans - come at cheap prices
and we will do it again. Have re-acted to all the criticisms of the very
very early ST renewals last year

Dave
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[LU] Memberships sales suspended

2013-02-21 Thread Simon Hart
Interesting. Could this mean the buy a membership for the privilege of
buying away tickets scam is going to end?

http://www.leedsunited.com/news/20130221/membership-sales-suspended_2247585_3083770
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Re: [LU] patel interview

2013-02-21 Thread Richard Walker
Yep I agree Dave , he comes across pretty well. 
 
Still wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him but that goes for the 
majority of folk who run football clubs.
 


 From: David Nattan nat...@sky.com
To: leeds list leedslist@gn.apc.org 
Sent: Thursday, 21 February 2013, 11:59
Subject: [LU] patel interview
  
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xxnyi6_follow-weareleedsmot3-salem-patel-interview-on-yorkshire-radio-lufc_sport#.USYKFx1hiSo

Have listened to it and he talks quite well - no real revelations there but
some sense and clears up a couple of points
Putting some emphasis on prices etc being up to fans - come at cheap prices
and we will do it again. Have re-acted to all the criticisms of the very
very early ST renewals last year

Dave
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Re: [LU] Memberships sales suspended

2013-02-21 Thread Richard Walker
I bleeding hope so - I am a true GFH fan is this their initiative. 

 


 From: Simon Hart simon.h...@york.ac.uk
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org leedslist@gn.apc.org 
Sent: Thursday, 21 February 2013, 13:32
Subject: [LU] Memberships sales suspended
  
Interesting. Could this mean the buy a membership for the privilege of
buying away tickets scam is going to end?

http://www.leedsunited.com/news/20130221/membership-sales-suspended_2247585_3083770
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Re: [LU] Memberships sales suspended

2013-02-21 Thread David Nattan
Not sure why they have suspended the 'extra time' scheme but the closing
paragraph does not look as if they are scrapping memberships altogether


*Any fans who are not Members but wish to register their interest for the
2013/14 season are advised to contact Ticket Services on 0871 334 1992 or
email tick...@leedsunited.com*




On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Richard Walker richleed...@yahoo.co.ukwrote:

 I bleeding hope so - I am a true GFH fan is this their initiative.



 
  From: Simon Hart simon.h...@york.ac.uk
 To: leedslist@gn.apc.org leedslist@gn.apc.org
 Sent: Thursday, 21 February 2013, 13:32
 Subject: [LU] Memberships sales suspended

 Interesting. Could this mean the buy a membership for the privilege of
 buying away tickets scam is going to end?


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Re: [LU] Memberships sales suspended

2013-02-21 Thread Nigel Sykes
 Could this mean the buy a membership for the privilege of buying away
tickets scam is going to end?

That really would herald the end of mankind, surely?

Only yesterday we were clearing out some old cupboards and I came across my
old red card from circa 1989.  Remember them?

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

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Re: [LU] Memberships sales suspended

2013-02-21 Thread Simon Hart
Yes it's probably just wishful thinking on my part. It's a pretty vague
message though.


On 21 February 2013 14:43, David Nattan nat...@sky.com wrote:

 Not sure why they have suspended the 'extra time' scheme but the closing
 paragraph does not look as if they are scrapping memberships altogether


 *Any fans who are not Members but wish to register their interest for the
 2013/14 season are advised to contact Ticket Services on 0871 334 1992 or
 email tick...@leedsunited.com*




 On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Richard Walker richleed...@yahoo.co.uk
 wrote:

  I bleeding hope so - I am a true GFH fan is this their initiative.
 
 
 
  
   From: Simon Hart simon.h...@york.ac.uk
  To: leedslist@gn.apc.org leedslist@gn.apc.org
  Sent: Thursday, 21 February 2013, 13:32
  Subject: [LU] Memberships sales suspended
 
  Interesting. Could this mean the buy a membership for the privilege of
  buying away tickets scam is going to end?
 
 
 
 http://www.leedsunited.com/news/20130221/membership-sales-suspended_2247585_3083770
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[LU] now extended highlights (18mins) from last night

2013-02-21 Thread David Nattan
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xxo9j4_follow-weareleedsmot3-leeds-united-v-blackpool-extended-highlights-lufc_sport#.USZSjB1hiSo

Dave
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[LU] Last Night

2013-02-21 Thread Phill Shields
Have to say I am surprised at some of the euphoria exhibited on the list about 
last night. There were plenty of things that pleased me but I think we are so 
used to dining on scraps that when a scabby chip is delivered we think its 
scampi!

The real difference between the two teams was our defence who played excellent 
and theirs who didn't. The two goals they gave us were shocking defending.

I am surprised at the stats on our possession because they outplayed us in 
midfield for long parts of the game. Morison and McCormack looked really good 
together though - Colin played a 4-3-3 which made for a very open game which we 
could easily have lost.

The amount of times that Warnock (Steven) aimlessly knocked long balls to no 
one, seriously I lost count, and we look v vulnerable for any set plays in our 
area. Varney man of the match? He missed a header from one yard out last night 
stood in the middle of the goal. He can't pass a ball more than five yards and 
when he beats a man he usually knocks it straight into touch. FFS the fans have 
even created a song taking the piss out of him. How Colin can play him before 
Diouf, says it all really.

Ill start getting excited when our dreadful away form improves, it can't get 
worse can it.

Well done GFH on ticket pricing last night, good to see less spaces in ER.

Half Full Phill
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Re: [LU] now extended highlights (18mins) from last night

2013-02-21 Thread Richard Naef

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xxo9j4_follow-weareleedsmot3-leeds-united-v
-blackpool-extended-highlights-lufc_sport#.USZSjB1hiSo

Thanks Dave,

that bloke Varney had loads of chances in the 6 yrd box didn't he, pity we
don't have anyone who could convert them ;) 

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[LU] FSE News FEB2013: New Contact Details!++Enough is Enough!++Minsk on Tour!++ProSupporters News

2013-02-21 Thread Rick Duniec
FSE News FEB2013: New Contact Details!++Enough is Enough!++Minsk on 
Tour!++ProSupporters News
- Original Message - 
 
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 6:33 PM
Subject: FSE News FEB2013: New Contact Details!++Enough is Enough!++Minsk on 
Tour!++ProSupporters News



   

   
Hi everyone,

actually, this newsletter is mainly there to inform you about our 
new contact details (to the right), but apart from that, there is also so much 
going on! 

Find below some of the latest news from the fans world in Europe, 
by our members and beyond.

And don't forget to save the date for our European Football Fans' 
Congress in Amsterdam, from 19-21 July 2013! 

Enjoy!

  Enough is Enough! 
  Jörn Kreuzer


  Finally: a wave of supporters' protests unleashes in England. 
  Anfield, Old Trafford oder White Hart Lane – these are only 
three names of football's dreamy castles. Every football supporter thinking of 
them probably gets shiny eyes. But they are dreamy castles, you can hardly 
afford anymore. For years, it seemed as if English supporters had accepted the 
fact to cultivate their fan culture not inside the stands but solely in the pub 
nearby the stadium. Confronted with ticket prices at GBP 60 (approx.. EUR 69) 
onwards though, this is an understandable reaction. 

  But now, organised protest is kicking-off and for the first 
time, after a long time, it's also raising public attention. 

  Read More...  



  Partizan Minsk on Tour! 
  Janina Rarisch

  Supporters from Belarus and Germany are demonstrating 
solidarity. Let's collectively support something that deserves acknowledgement! 
  A small, special football club from Minsk, the capital of 
Belarus, a country where oppression and governmental violence against its own 
civilians is a sad reality, is coming on tour to four different German cities - 
upon initiative from the fans themselves.

  Read More...  



  ProSupporters News: from the Volkpark this time 
  Janina Rarisch 
  ...From the 2nd meeting of the FSE Consultation Group on 
Supporters Charters.   
  On a sunny but cold day in Hamburg, it was again time to get 
together. On 11-12 February the working group for the FSE Handbook on 
Supporters Charters met to discuss the first draft and amend controversial 
points, if necessary. 

  READ MORE...  



  AS ROMA fans voice protest against fan-unfriendly kick-off 
times 
  Daniela Wurbs


  Kick-off times in modern football at “its best”: AS Roma 
supporters are appalled in view of fan-unfriendly kick-off times for their team 
this season. Nothing new for many football supporters. FSE members from MyROMA, 
a supporters trust initiative, now have taken action to voice their protest.

  We are hereby documenting their open letter sent to various 
football bodies and institutions:

  From September on, we have received hundreds of messages 
from our members and supporters asking why the AS Roma should always play in 
the evening. MyROMA felt compelled to send the below letter to ask for 
clarification and to make clear to decision-makers that the situation is no 
longer tenable, but that especially the kick-off times keep away the families, 
and contradict respective statements made by those in charge that families were 
so important.

  READ MORE...  




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Re: [LU] now extended highlights (18mins) from last night

2013-02-21 Thread David Nattan
Now now Rich don't go rattling cages - we are all happy today and do not
need to rake over old stuff about players who are no longer our concern !
I could not believe how hard it was to do my report without referring to a
certain Argie and comparing what we did or did not do , to what we would
have done.
To be fair Varney was excellent - many have him as mom. Morison was tired
by the end but took his goal well and did enough to suggest that maybe,
just maybe, he will become our new hero and a decent number 9

Dave

On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 5:54 PM, Richard Naef 
rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk wrote:



 http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xxo9j4_follow-weareleedsmot3-leeds-united-v
 -blackpool-extended-highlights-lufc_sport#.USZSjB1hiSo

 Thanks Dave,

 that bloke Varney had loads of chances in the 6 yrd box didn't he, pity we
 don't have anyone who could convert them ;)

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Re: [LU] now extended highlights (18mins) from last night

2013-02-21 Thread Richard Naef
 I could not believe how hard it was to do my report without referring to a
certain Argie and comparing what we did or did not do , 
to what we would have done.

talking of those we have loved, looks like Somma is a busted flush, not on
the bench or playing for the stiffs, so either had a relapse or not part of
Colin's plans, very sad imho.

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Re: [LU] now extended highlights (18mins) from last night

2013-02-21 Thread Nicholas Armit
There was news he had a relapse I seem to remember.





 From: Richard Naef rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk
To: 'leeds list' leedslist@gn.apc.org 
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 2:58 PM
Subject: Re: [LU] now extended highlights (18mins) from last night
 
 I could not believe how hard it was to do my report without referring to a
certain Argie and comparing what we did or did not do , 
to what we would have done.

talking of those we have loved, looks like Somma is a busted flush, not on
the bench or playing for the stiffs, so either had a relapse or not part of
Colin's plans, very sad imho.

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[LU] Purely academic question, you understand.........

2013-02-21 Thread Robert Heath
What is the total points target which usually gets a club in the playoffs?
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Re: [LU] Purely academic question, you understand.........

2013-02-21 Thread Matt Anderson
70-75 over last few years. 75 is the most common total though 

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Re: [LU] Purely academic question, you understand.........

2013-02-21 Thread Graham Longbottom
H. We'd need to beat a 2-point average (automatic promotion form) to do
75.


On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 11:00 PM, Matt Anderson m...@leeds-united.netwrote:

 70-75 over last few years. 75 is the most common total though

 Sent from my iPad

 On 21 Feb 2013, at 22:53, Robert Heath rhe...@asd.edu.qa wrote:

  What is the total points target which usually gets a club in the
 playoffs?
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Re: [LU] Purely academic question, you understand.........

2013-02-21 Thread Matt Anderson
Boro are on course for 70.1 and Brighton 70.4 so it could be lower this season

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On 21 Feb 2013, at 23:05, Graham Longbottom graham.longbot...@gmail.com wrote:

 H. We'd need to beat a 2-point average (automatic promotion form) to do 
 75.
 
 
 On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 11:00 PM, Matt Anderson m...@leeds-united.net wrote:
 70-75 over last few years. 75 is the most common total though
 
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 On 21 Feb 2013, at 22:53, Robert Heath rhe...@asd.edu.qa wrote:
 
  What is the total points target which usually gets a club in the playoffs?
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Re: [LU] Purely academic question, you understand.........

2013-02-21 Thread Peter Castlehouse
At last, the stattoes on the list are BACK!

Keep it up lads, we want a weekly update now, you realise...

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Subject: Re: [LU] Purely academic question, you understand.

Boro are on course for 70.1 and Brighton 70.4 so it could be lower this
season

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On 21 Feb 2013, at 23:05, Graham Longbottom graham.longbot...@gmail.com
wrote:

 H. We'd need to beat a 2-point average (automatic promotion form) to
do 75.
 
 
 On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 11:00 PM, Matt Anderson m...@leeds-united.net
wrote:
 70-75 over last few years. 75 is the most common total though
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 21 Feb 2013, at 22:53, Robert Heath rhe...@asd.edu.qa wrote:
 
  What is the total points target which usually gets a club in the
playoffs?
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