Re: [LU] Championship

[Robert Heath]

We had a breakaway from their corner in the 1st half...3 or 4 v
1.all Gray had to do, under no pressure, was slide the ball into
the inside left channel and we were through one-on-one v the
keeper..and he shanked it horribly straight down the pitch. Farke's
fault, obviously.

If James's shot had been an inch lower, and had bounced down and in a la
Geoff Hurst, I'm pretty sure we'd have gone on to win that match.

My point is that all the criticism of manager & players is unjust. It was
just football (and the Triple Curse we were up against: London/Playoffs/Cup
finals!)

On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 8:39 PM Richard Walker 
wrote:

> Sean,
>
> That’s a great post and I read it nodding my head to a lot of what you
> said. Overall, I think Farke deserves credit because he’s taken a team in
> disarray to nearly getting promoted. If you think about the confusion
> around the first 6 games and that team we took to Brum ( Shackleton and
> co) and got nothing, that cost us dear.
> On the flip side you have to look at the limitations of Farke. I don’t
> think he knows what his best team is ? Is Rutter a 10/9? , is Piroe a 10/9
> ? He gave us a 20 min chat as to why Piroe is 10 and not a 9 but then has
> changed his mind.
> A Norwich fan said to me before Farke had been in charge with us that for
> even a game that he is limited which cost him in the higher levels. I think
> you can see this week in week out. The passing around at the back is
> predictable and boring. I think he’s a Championship manager with little to
> Suggs he could really make an impact on the PL.
> so sack now ? I don think so cos I’ve enjoyed most I this season but if
> you look at logically there’s an argument to get rid but you have to have a
> replacement and as far as I am aware there isn’t !
>
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
> 
>
> On Monday, May 27, 2024, 7:31 PM, Dave Tomlinson 
> wrote:
>
> The £170m owed isn't all due yet, I understand it's about £70m to pay next
> few months.
> The phasing of transfer fees is about cash and nothing to do with FFP,
> which is around profit and loss.
> The ability of 49ers to invest is constrained only by the FFP rules
> (revenue, not cash)
>
> On Mon, 27 May 2024 at 10:54, Robert Heath 
> wrote:
>
> > I don't know the ins and outs of it all,but I believe it's not so simple
> as
> > the 49ers stumping up some cash. Apparently we did not pay some transfer
> > fees in full so we could massage our FFP losses...and there's
> supposed
> > to be 170 million we have to pay now. Presumably though if we can get
> > decent fees for Seville & Gnonto that might allow us some wiggle room.
> (Two
> > players, incidentally, along with Meslier & Joseph, signed for peanuts by
> > that useless know nothing Victor Orta)
> >
> > On Mon, 27 May 2024, 11:37 Simon McNally via Leedslist, <
> > leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:
> >
> > > What are we thinking for the team next year?
> > >
> > > I’m assuming Gnonto and Summerville will be off, hopefully we get some
> > > fees for the loan players that jumped ship. Have heard suggestions that
> > > they might try to cash in on Meslier too.
> > >
> > > With the parachute payments hopefully we can get a decent team
> together.
> > > The hope that I’m clinging to is that the 49s aren’t in this to make up
> > > the numbers and will invest in the squad.
> > >
> > > Here’s what I’m thinking :
> > > New GK
> > > New RB
> > > CB Ampadu
> > > CB Struijk
> > > LB Firpo (can’t see there being any offers for him)
> > > CM Gray (fingers crossed he stays)
> > > CM Gruev
> > > RW James
> > > CAM Rutter (if he stays - could we sign a new 10 and play Rutter on the
> > > wing?)
> > > New LW
> > > New CF (I’d like to see Joseph get a run)
> > >
> > > S
> > >
> > > Sent from Outlook for iOS
> > > 
> > > From: Leedslist  on behalf of Paul
> > Cundell <
> > > p...@cundell.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, May 27, 2024 10:20:38 AM
> > > To: Richard Walker 
> > > Cc: leedslist 
> > > Subject: Re: [LU] Championship
> > >
> > > "None of that team is good enough for the PL currently, not one of
> them."
> > > I thought that after we lost to QPR tbh, if a team chasing automatic
> > > promotion can get hammered by a team struggling to stay up then I'd
> hate
> > to
> > > see that team face Citeh, Arse or even Scum.
> > >
> > > On Mon, 27 May 2024, 09:47 Richard Walker via Leedslist, <
> > > leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Team didn’t turn up unlike us lot who did at great expense. It was
> > > > Doncaster revisited and I hate Wembley and hope I never return.
> > > > I’ve got nothing to say about the match other than Summerville played
> > in
> > > > gloves, the match passed Piroe by and Rutter showed us that he hasn’t
> > > 

Re: [LU] Championship

[Richard Walker via Leedslist]

Sean,
That’s a great post and I read it nodding my head to a lot of what you said. 
Overall, I think Farke deserves credit because he’s taken a team in disarray to 
nearly getting promoted. If you think about the confusion around the first 6 
games and that team we took to Brum ( Shackleton and co) and got nothing, that 
cost us dear.On the flip side you have to look at the limitations of Farke. I 
don’t think he knows what his best team is ? Is Rutter a 10/9? , is Piroe a 
10/9 ? He gave us a 20 min chat as to why Piroe is 10 and not a 9 but then has 
changed his mind. A Norwich fan said to me before Farke had been in charge with 
us that for even a game that he is limited which cost him in the higher levels. 
I think you can see this week in week out. The passing around at the back is 
predictable and boring. I think he’s a Championship manager with little to 
Suggs he could really make an impact on the PL. so sack now ? I don think so 
cos I’ve enjoyed most I this season but if you look at logically there’s an 
argument to get rid but you have to have a replacement and as far as I am aware 
there isn’t !


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On Monday, May 27, 2024, 7:31 PM, Dave Tomlinson  
wrote:

The £170m owed isn't all due yet, I understand it's about £70m to pay next
few months.
The phasing of transfer fees is about cash and nothing to do with FFP,
which is around profit and loss.
The ability of 49ers to invest is constrained only by the FFP rules
(revenue, not cash)

On Mon, 27 May 2024 at 10:54, Robert Heath  wrote:

> I don't know the ins and outs of it all,but I believe it's not so simple as
> the 49ers stumping up some cash. Apparently we did not pay some transfer
> fees in full so we could massage our FFP losses...and there's supposed
> to be 170 million we have to pay now. Presumably though if we can get
> decent fees for Seville & Gnonto that might allow us some wiggle room. (Two
> players, incidentally, along with Meslier & Joseph, signed for peanuts by
> that useless know nothing Victor Orta)
>
> On Mon, 27 May 2024, 11:37 Simon McNally via Leedslist, <
> leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:
>
> > What are we thinking for the team next year?
> >
> > I’m assuming Gnonto and Summerville will be off, hopefully we get some
> > fees for the loan players that jumped ship. Have heard suggestions that
> > they might try to cash in on Meslier too.
> >
> > With the parachute payments hopefully we can get a decent team together.
> > The hope that I’m clinging to is that the 49s aren’t in this to make up
> > the numbers and will invest in the squad.
> >
> > Here’s what I’m thinking :
> > New GK
> > New RB
> > CB Ampadu
> > CB Struijk
> > LB Firpo (can’t see there being any offers for him)
> > CM Gray (fingers crossed he stays)
> > CM Gruev
> > RW James
> > CAM Rutter (if he stays - could we sign a new 10 and play Rutter on the
> > wing?)
> > New LW
> > New CF (I’d like to see Joseph get a run)
> >
> > S
> >
> > Sent from Outlook for iOS
> > 
> > From: Leedslist  on behalf of Paul
> Cundell <
> > p...@cundell.com>
> > Sent: Monday, May 27, 2024 10:20:38 AM
> > To: Richard Walker 
> > Cc: leedslist 
> > Subject: Re: [LU] Championship
> >
> > "None of that team is good enough for the PL currently, not one of them."
> > I thought that after we lost to QPR tbh, if a team chasing automatic
> > promotion can get hammered by a team struggling to stay up then I'd hate
> to
> > see that team face Citeh, Arse or even Scum.
> >
> > On Mon, 27 May 2024, 09:47 Richard Walker via Leedslist, <
> > leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Team didn’t turn up unlike us lot who did at great expense. It was
> > > Doncaster revisited and I hate Wembley and hope I never return.
> > > I’ve got nothing to say about the match other than Summerville played
> in
> > > gloves, the match passed Piroe by and Rutter showed us that he hasn’t
> > been
> > > the same player since his op.
> > > None of that team is good enough for the PL currently, not one of them.
> > We
> > > got excited by the Norwich game but let’s face facts, they were
> rubbish.
> > > On the last train out of Kings X there were a lot of very fed up fans
> but
> > > all agreed that this team is a 100% championship team with a manager
> who
> > is
> > > a 100% championship manager.
> > > Be interested to see who jumps ship and actually who wants to buy them
> ?
> > >
> > >
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Re: [LU] Championship

[Jonathan Wynne via Leedslist]

Absolutely. A set piece coach should long since have been a no-brainer. 
Nothing to lose and 6-12 goals per season to gain surely.
And we must sign 1 or 2 good players who happen to be 6 foot 4 and can 
help convert set piece chances. We've still not replaced Pontus in this 
respect.


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From: Robert Heath

Sent: May 27, 2024 at 9:42 AM

To: simon_mcna...@sky.com

Subject: Re: [LU] Championship


The suggestion that Farke should be sacked is beyond ridiculous.



I do think he and we need to appoint a specialist set piece coach 
though.




I'm currently pinning my hopes on the thought that maybe just maybe we

might be able to keep Rodon on another season loan.



I'm reasonably sanguine about another year in the Chumpionship... 
I'm


just cross that Soton are going up.



On Mon, 27 May 2024, 10:12 Simon McNally via Leedslist, <

leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:



I feel similar.

Maybe because I didn’t expect us to win I’m not too disappointed.

Thought we started brightly but faded.

Too slow and predictable in the build up (as we have been for a while),

hard to say if that’s on Farke or the players (or both).

Seen a lot of calls for Farke to go. Two schools of thought though I 
guess.


Can you sack someone who got 90 points and was one game away from

promotion? Do we need more instability by changing manager again? How 
much


would it cost as he’s on a 3 year deal?

The other side would say he’s been out thought by Martin three times 
now,


doesn’t have a plan b other than to chuck a load of attackers on or a 
plan


a really other than hope Jimmy or Rutter do something amazing.

The football has been a bit slow and dull too.

I’m not sure which I agree with , maybe a bit of both.



Enjoyed my Wembley experience (particularly how quick it was to get a 
beer


in the ground) up to the actual game!



S



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damian.wa...@euromaster.com>

Sent: Monday, May 27, 2024 8:08:18 AM

To: leedslist 

Subject: Re: [LU] Championship



Funny enough that's sort of how the aftermath feels like too.



I'm numbly upset but no great passion - all a bit vague really, bit like

the match :)



Damian



Le dim. 26 mai 2024 à 22:25, Graham White via Leedslist <

leedslist@gn.apc.org> a écrit :



 "like watching paint dry".





Started so positive & on the front foot for most of the first 10, solid 
&


determined - and then came the first defensive wobble when they broke

down

our right…

I hoped that would act as a wake up call but didn’t… Sure enough soon

they

scored while Rodon & Amps stood pointing at each other & Archie

unfortunately had dropped too far so played Armstrong on…



From that moment on we never really looked like getting into the game

again.



Too many of our players didn’t believe in it (and that has to be laid on

Farke) - but the one that did was the first to be replaced which summed

quite a lot up.



Rutter & Cree were well below par, and should’ve been replaced on the

hour

at least. Gruev & Kamara struggled to get anything going - and not once

did

we see the triangulation play between Kamara, Cree, Rutter & Firps which

have become a bit of our speciality this season…



And the combination Rutter/Piroe hasn’t worked well ever & won’t work in

the future either if one of them keeps insisting on not interacting with

the other. Another thing for DF to sort out.

Maybe he should let one of them go. There’s no indication that Rutter

will

find his form from before the break & operation again… on his current

showing he’s a big question mark.



Anyway, thought Dan James did well when he came on, desperately unlucky

with his effort, and at least we did try hard in the end to force a 
goal.




Too little too late as the saying goes.



Next season can’t start too soon. Not looking forward to the summer of

silly season crap but that’s what it is.



Hope and pray for a few good additions and that we don’t lose too many 
of


our most influential players. Our squad was never big enough this season

so

additions are needed.



Why not try and find a left back who can defend? Heard that one before?

Wish list can become long!



Realistically we won’t be able to keep Willy or Cree, but let’s hope

Archie stays!



/Raffe





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On 26 May 2024, at 18:22, Kevin Lewis via Leedslist <

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There we are. Encapsulates the season. Loads of possession. Shit set

pieces. Pathetic shooting.



I think the management are happier in the championship, where they can

win

more than they lose, without having to take any risks.







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Re: [LU] Championship

[Dave Tomlinson]

The £170m owed isn't all due yet, I understand it's about £70m to pay next
few months.
The phasing of transfer fees is about cash and nothing to do with FFP,
which is around profit and loss.
The ability of 49ers to invest is constrained only by the FFP rules
(revenue, not cash)

On Mon, 27 May 2024 at 10:54, Robert Heath  wrote:

> I don't know the ins and outs of it all,but I believe it's not so simple as
> the 49ers stumping up some cash. Apparently we did not pay some transfer
> fees in full so we could massage our FFP losses...and there's supposed
> to be 170 million we have to pay now. Presumably though if we can get
> decent fees for Seville & Gnonto that might allow us some wiggle room. (Two
> players, incidentally, along with Meslier & Joseph, signed for peanuts by
> that useless know nothing Victor Orta)
>
> On Mon, 27 May 2024, 11:37 Simon McNally via Leedslist, <
> leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:
>
> > What are we thinking for the team next year?
> >
> > I’m assuming Gnonto and Summerville will be off, hopefully we get some
> > fees for the loan players that jumped ship. Have heard suggestions that
> > they might try to cash in on Meslier too.
> >
> > With the parachute payments hopefully we can get a decent team together.
> > The hope that I’m clinging to is that the 49s aren’t in this to make up
> > the numbers and will invest in the squad.
> >
> > Here’s what I’m thinking :
> > New GK
> > New RB
> > CB Ampadu
> > CB Struijk
> > LB Firpo (can’t see there being any offers for him)
> > CM Gray (fingers crossed he stays)
> > CM Gruev
> > RW James
> > CAM Rutter (if he stays - could we sign a new 10 and play Rutter on the
> > wing?)
> > New LW
> > New CF (I’d like to see Joseph get a run)
> >
> > S
> >
> > Sent from Outlook for iOS
> > 
> > From: Leedslist  on behalf of Paul
> Cundell <
> > p...@cundell.com>
> > Sent: Monday, May 27, 2024 10:20:38 AM
> > To: Richard Walker 
> > Cc: leedslist 
> > Subject: Re: [LU] Championship
> >
> > "None of that team is good enough for the PL currently, not one of them."
> > I thought that after we lost to QPR tbh, if a team chasing automatic
> > promotion can get hammered by a team struggling to stay up then I'd hate
> to
> > see that team face Citeh, Arse or even Scum.
> >
> > On Mon, 27 May 2024, 09:47 Richard Walker via Leedslist, <
> > leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Team didn’t turn up unlike us lot who did at great expense. It was
> > > Doncaster revisited and I hate Wembley and hope I never return.
> > > I’ve got nothing to say about the match other than Summerville played
> in
> > > gloves, the match passed Piroe by and Rutter showed us that he hasn’t
> > been
> > > the same player since his op.
> > > None of that team is good enough for the PL currently, not one of them.
> > We
> > > got excited by the Norwich game but let’s face facts, they were
> rubbish.
> > > On the last train out of Kings X there were a lot of very fed up fans
> but
> > > all agreed that this team is a 100% championship team with a manager
> who
> > is
> > > a 100% championship manager.
> > > Be interested to see who jumps ship and actually who wants to buy them
> ?
> > >
> > >
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Re: [LU] Championship

[John Lee via Leedslist]

I’m sure every single one of us could come up with opinions, some of which will 
inevitably be correct.

*I think Farke deserves a 2nd season
*Farke/the defence needs to up his/their tactical game - 3 times yesterday 
Southampton shot from essentially the same place - 1 goal, a Meslier save, and 
a shot into our defence - obviously they had worked on this flaw!
* controversially, I think we definitely need to be rid of the Championships 
best player - cash in if possible. 
* I didn’t want Gnonto in the team after his pre-season stupidity, but he does 
at least try - however, is he just a one-trick pony - I think he’ll go as well
*another controversial one - I really do not like, at all, the way our team is 
set up to be so cautious, and the snails pace build-up - if that is Farke’s 
modus operandi then I don’t think it’s going to work? Although I concede it 
nearly did, but I still don’t like it!
* Rutter - for all his charisma and occasional bits of brilliance, it feels 
like we’re always a man light in midfield when he plays, and when the 
Championships best player is in a strop then doubly so
* petulance - all Southamptons bookings were as a result of stopping us 
playing. The championships best players lost his rag cos his shirt was pulled! 
Him and Willy are like spoilt little kids!

We’ve papered over a lot of cracks this season, but eventually they get spotted 
- there are a hell of a lot of things to be sorted out - again!




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> On 27 May 2024, at 10:54, Robert Heath  wrote:
> 
> I don't know the ins and outs of it all,but I believe it's not so simple as
> the 49ers stumping up some cash. Apparently we did not pay some transfer
> fees in full so we could massage our FFP losses...and there's supposed
> to be 170 million we have to pay now. Presumably though if we can get
> decent fees for Seville & Gnonto that might allow us some wiggle room. (Two
> players, incidentally, along with Meslier & Joseph, signed for peanuts by
> that useless know nothing Victor Orta)
> 
>> On Mon, 27 May 2024, 11:37 Simon McNally via Leedslist, <
>> leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:
>> 
>> What are we thinking for the team next year?
>> 
>> I’m assuming Gnonto and Summerville will be off, hopefully we get some
>> fees for the loan players that jumped ship. Have heard suggestions that
>> they might try to cash in on Meslier too.
>> 
>> With the parachute payments hopefully we can get a decent team together.
>> The hope that I’m clinging to is that the 49s aren’t in this to make up
>> the numbers and will invest in the squad.
>> 
>> Here’s what I’m thinking :
>> New GK
>> New RB
>> CB Ampadu
>> CB Struijk
>> LB Firpo (can’t see there being any offers for him)
>> CM Gray (fingers crossed he stays)
>> CM Gruev
>> RW James
>> CAM Rutter (if he stays - could we sign a new 10 and play Rutter on the
>> wing?)
>> New LW
>> New CF (I’d like to see Joseph get a run)
>> 
>> S
>> 
>> Sent from Outlook for iOS
>> 
>> From: Leedslist  on behalf of Paul Cundell <
>> p...@cundell.com>
>> Sent: Monday, May 27, 2024 10:20:38 AM
>> To: Richard Walker 
>> Cc: leedslist 
>> Subject: Re: [LU] Championship
>> 
>> "None of that team is good enough for the PL currently, not one of them."
>> I thought that after we lost to QPR tbh, if a team chasing automatic
>> promotion can get hammered by a team struggling to stay up then I'd hate to
>> see that team face Citeh, Arse or even Scum.
>> 
>> On Mon, 27 May 2024, 09:47 Richard Walker via Leedslist, <
>> leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> Team didn’t turn up unlike us lot who did at great expense. It was
>>> Doncaster revisited and I hate Wembley and hope I never return.
>>> I’ve got nothing to say about the match other than Summerville played in
>>> gloves, the match passed Piroe by and Rutter showed us that he hasn’t
>> been
>>> the same player since his op.
>>> None of that team is good enough for the PL currently, not one of them.
>> We
>>> got excited by the Norwich game but let’s face facts, they were rubbish.
>>> On the last train out of Kings X there were a lot of very fed up fans but
>>> all agreed that this team is a 100% championship team with a manager who
>> is
>>> a 100% championship manager.
>>> Be interested to see who jumps ship and actually who wants to buy them ?
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [LU] Championship

[seanscribe--- via Leedslist]

 I'm mystified by the view that failing to get promotion (despite all but 
guaranteeing to the board that he would get promotion, according to Phil Hay) 
but getting 90 points means it's "nonsense" to suggest another manager might do 
better than Farke. I see a manager who talks a great game but:
- cannot use the players at his disposal to our best advantage. This is most 
obvious when we need a goal, but instead of moving the ball quickly up the 
pitch, our players, presumably at the insistence of their manager, patiently 
wait for the opposition to get set in their deep block before moving the ball 
up the field. This is despite having maybe the fastest player in the division 
in Dan James in the squad, along with other fast runners/good dribblers in 
Summerville, Gnonto and Anthony. I want to hurl my coffee mug through the TV 
screen when I see us ponderously pass it back and forth between Ampadu and 
Rodon, then slowly up to about halfway into the opposition half, before 
pausing, and passing it slowly all the way back to Meslier, who then launches 
it up to the halfway line, where the opposition wins it. That's awful football 
to watch, and it doesn't get us enough goals. We need a manager, or at least a 
complete tactical overhaul that moves the ball with faster passing to unhinge 
defences before they get a chance to fully park the bus.
- cannot coach set pieces to save his life (or job). I don't think we scored 
from a free kick in the entire regular season. I'm struggling to think of any 
from corners (maybe Rutter at Leicester, after Byram's header cannoned off the 
bar). 
- cannot change tactics mid-game when it's required. He was out-thought three 
times this season by Russell Martin, a much less experienced manager.
- hasn't got the balls to make substitutions early enough to give the team the 
best chance of winning. And then when he does make the changes, all he can 
think to do is pack the XI with as many attackers as possible, which worked 
once - away at Norwich - and never again. What would have happened yesterday if 
we'd brought Dan James on at halftime yesterday? 
- is too loyal to the players who cost a lot of money. I cannot understand what 
he has against Mateo Joseph, but it is inexplicable to me that the one player 
we know is good enough to score against a Premier League defence this season 
(as opposed to in 2020-21) was given a few token minutes at the end, and as 
usual in those few minutes looked sharper and more committed than Piroe has 
done most of the season. 
So yes, Farke got 90 points. But we lost. We did not get promoted. He was given 
a team packed with international experience and effervescent youthful talent 
and yet was beaten to the automatic places by a manager who'd never managed 
above the third tier of English football. So I'm not convinced that something 
similar won't happen next season. Yes, the three clubs coming down seem weak, 
but that's because we're looking at how they got heavily beaten repeatedly in 
the Premier League (like we did). They'll have bigger parachute payments next 
season than we will, and may come again. Maybe another young manager like 
McKenna will announce himself next season. We need a born winner, not some 
yesterday's man.
Cheers!
Sean
On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 09:12:40 AM EDT, n...@6haroldplace.co.uk 
 wrote:   

 Yep, been to 4 ‘finals’ now with Leeds and have yet to see us score. I can’t 
be doing that any more. Combined with whole shithousery that being in London 
and Wembley just is. 

Still it was nice to see a few familiar faces in some pub in Marylebone.

Southampton have us properly figured out this season. Sharp attacks, good 
finisher, and then a bus parked across the back. Some of their tackling was 
borderline, to say the least. But they knew they needed to keep Gnonto, 
Summerville and Rutter quiet and the rest would take care of itself. They only 
wobbled those few times when we upped the tempo, and brought a little chaos to 
things - mainly around Dan James - up to that point Firpo had been just about 
our best attacking threat. Kamara, is half a midfielder - he does the defensive 
stuff fine, but he is gash at going forward - Batty, Dacourt, Philips all knew 
a good forward pass when it presented itself. This is one of the reasons Archie 
must be midfield regular next season.

The idea of replacing Farke is nonsense. That points tally is a record for not 
achieving promotion. 

Massively fucked off on the game, but the longer outcome is not so bad, 
supposing we keep a decent core of these players, and the finances are not shot 
to shit by this failure to get promoted, as is being mooted in some places.

Nick


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> On 27 May 2024, at 11:43, Richard Walker via Leedslist  
> wrote:
> 
>  It was interesting arriving at Baker Street - the Globe was packed and the 
> atmosphere frantic with the expectation levels high. Couldn't get a drink so 
> went over the road to the Soton pub and in there

Re: [LU] Championship

[n...@6haroldplace.co.uk]

Yep, been to 4 ‘finals’ now with Leeds and have yet to see us score. I can’t be 
doing that any more. Combined with whole shithousery that being in London and 
Wembley just is. 

Still it was nice to see a few familiar faces in some pub in Marylebone.

Southampton have us properly figured out this season. Sharp attacks, good 
finisher, and then a bus parked across the back. Some of their tackling was 
borderline, to say the least. But they knew they needed to keep Gnonto, 
Summerville and Rutter quiet and the rest would take care of itself. They only 
wobbled those few times when we upped the tempo, and brought a little chaos to 
things - mainly around Dan James - up to that point Firpo had been just about 
our best attacking threat. Kamara, is half a midfielder - he does the defensive 
stuff fine, but he is gash at going forward - Batty, Dacourt, Philips all knew 
a good forward pass when it presented itself. This is one of the reasons Archie 
must be midfield regular next season.

The idea of replacing Farke is nonsense. That points tally is a record for not 
achieving promotion. 

Massively fucked off on the game, but the longer outcome is not so bad, 
supposing we keep a decent core of these players, and the finances are not shot 
to shit by this failure to get promoted, as is being mooted in some places.

Nick


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> On 27 May 2024, at 11:43, Richard Walker via Leedslist  
> wrote:
> 
>  It was interesting arriving at Baker Street - the Globe was packed and the 
> atmosphere frantic with the expectation levels high. Couldn't get a drink so 
> went over the road to the Soton pub and in there it was easy to get a drink 
> and felt like it a relaced Sunday afternoon in a beer garden with the 
> occassionally when the Saints go marching in. Maybe it's that level of 
> expectancy that get's to the players and causes our downfall. The Saints fans 
> seemed much more relaxed to me  and so did I after 6 pints 
>On Monday 27 May 2024 at 11:22:44 BST, nattan--- via Leedslist 
>  wrote:  
> 
> Well this was the archetypal " a great weekend spolit by 90mins football " - 
> been there  , done that so many times in the past , including but not limited 
> to 3 play off finals this century without a single goal to cheer
> Despite misgivings over the stuff surrounding this  " final" i was fully on 
> board and was massively up for it. The area around Paddington and then Covent 
> Garden were turned into leeds united territory as our fans massed together 
> and, much to the delight of tourists taking photos,  we sang, danced and 
> jumped around going ' fuc8ing mental" 
> So a great Saturday evening,  followed by a 50/50 split in afew pubs on Baker 
> Street and 100% leeds united Globe ( when it emptied enough for us to get in) 
> We all wanted to win, obviously , but were not so impressed with what would 
> come next - an attempt to be the 4th worst team in the prem, hardly a great 
> ambition , 
> As for the game, as they say in boxing , styles make fights, well ours and 
> Southampton styles make a bore- fest in which they always had the edge. once 
> they scored it genuinely felt like game over, DJ tried his best to change 
> that but we never really looked like getting the goal(s) we needed. 
> So LUFC set another unwanted record ( most play offs without a victory,  so 
> ive been told) and its another year ( my last on my 20yr ST) in the champo. 
> Such is life.
> I have got up today in absolute agony due to various health issues and did 
> amuse myself by singing " for  the sake of leeds United i have broke (sic)  
> myself in two" even if im not a red headed dynamo. 
> Final point i hope Saints fans can learn at least one other song , the only 
> time i heard them in the pub or in the ground was that dirge , oh when the 
> saints, sung at half speed- tedious 
> Roll on 24/25 season   it will be our year ( honest)
> Dave 
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Re: [LU] Championship

[Richard Walker via Leedslist]

 It was interesting arriving at Baker Street - the Globe was packed and the 
atmosphere frantic with the expectation levels high. Couldn't get a drink so 
went over the road to the Soton pub and in there it was easy to get a drink and 
felt like it a relaced Sunday afternoon in a beer garden with the occassionally 
when the Saints go marching in. Maybe it's that level of expectancy that get's 
to the players and causes our downfall. The Saints fans seemed much more 
relaxed to me  and so did I after 6 pints 
On Monday 27 May 2024 at 11:22:44 BST, nattan--- via Leedslist 
 wrote:  
 
 Well this was the archetypal " a great weekend spolit by 90mins football " - 
been there  , done that so many times in the past , including but not limited 
to 3 play off finals this century without a single goal to cheer
Despite misgivings over the stuff surrounding this  " final" i was fully on 
board and was massively up for it. The area around Paddington and then Covent 
Garden were turned into leeds united territory as our fans massed together and, 
much to the delight of tourists taking photos,  we sang, danced and jumped 
around going ' fuc8ing mental" 
So a great Saturday evening,  followed by a 50/50 split in afew pubs on Baker 
Street and 100% leeds united Globe ( when it emptied enough for us to get in) 
We all wanted to win, obviously , but were not so impressed with what would 
come next - an attempt to be the 4th worst team in the prem, hardly a great 
ambition , 
As for the game, as they say in boxing , styles make fights, well ours and 
Southampton styles make a bore- fest in which they always had the edge. once 
they scored it genuinely felt like game over, DJ tried his best to change that 
but we never really looked like getting the goal(s) we needed. 
So LUFC set another unwanted record ( most play offs without a victory,  so ive 
been told) and its another year ( my last on my 20yr ST) in the champo. Such is 
life.
I have got up today in absolute agony due to various health issues and did 
amuse myself by singing " for  the sake of leeds United i have broke (sic)  
myself in two" even if im not a red headed dynamo. 
Final point i hope Saints fans can learn at least one other song , the only 
time i heard them in the pub or in the ground was that dirge , oh when the 
saints, sung at half speed- tedious 
Roll on 24/25 season   it will be our year ( honest)
Dave 

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Re: [LU] Championship

[nattan--- via Leedslist]

Well this was the archetypal " a great weekend spolit by 90mins football " - 
been there  , done that so many times in the past , including but not limited 
to 3 play off finals this century without a single goal to cheer
Despite misgivings over the stuff surrounding this  " final" i was fully on 
board and was massively up for it. The area around Paddington and then Covent 
Garden were turned into leeds united territory as our fans massed together and, 
much to the delight of tourists taking photos,  we sang, danced and jumped 
around going ' fuc8ing mental" 
So a great Saturday evening,  followed by a 50/50 split in afew pubs on Baker 
Street and 100% leeds united Globe ( when it emptied enough for us to get in) 
We all wanted to win, obviously , but were not so impressed with what would 
come next - an attempt to be the 4th worst team in the prem, hardly a great 
ambition , 
As for the game, as they say in boxing , styles make fights, well ours and 
Southampton styles make a bore- fest in which they always had the edge. once 
they scored it genuinely felt like game over, DJ tried his best to change that 
but we never really looked like getting the goal(s) we needed. 
So LUFC set another unwanted record ( most play offs without a victory,  so ive 
been told) and its another year ( my last on my 20yr ST) in the champo. Such is 
life.
I have got up today in absolute agony due to various health issues and did 
amuse myself by singing " for  the sake of leeds United i have broke (sic)  
myself in two" even if im not a red headed dynamo. 
Final point i hope Saints fans can learn at least one other song , the only 
time i heard them in the pub or in the ground was that dirge , oh when the 
saints, sung at half speed- tedious 
Roll on 24/25 season   it will be our year ( honest)
Dave 

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Re: [LU] Championship

[Robert Heath]

I don't know the ins and outs of it all,but I believe it's not so simple as
the 49ers stumping up some cash. Apparently we did not pay some transfer
fees in full so we could massage our FFP losses...and there's supposed
to be 170 million we have to pay now. Presumably though if we can get
decent fees for Seville & Gnonto that might allow us some wiggle room. (Two
players, incidentally, along with Meslier & Joseph, signed for peanuts by
that useless know nothing Victor Orta)

On Mon, 27 May 2024, 11:37 Simon McNally via Leedslist, <
leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:

> What are we thinking for the team next year?
>
> I’m assuming Gnonto and Summerville will be off, hopefully we get some
> fees for the loan players that jumped ship. Have heard suggestions that
> they might try to cash in on Meslier too.
>
> With the parachute payments hopefully we can get a decent team together.
> The hope that I’m clinging to is that the 49s aren’t in this to make up
> the numbers and will invest in the squad.
>
> Here’s what I’m thinking :
> New GK
> New RB
> CB Ampadu
> CB Struijk
> LB Firpo (can’t see there being any offers for him)
> CM Gray (fingers crossed he stays)
> CM Gruev
> RW James
> CAM Rutter (if he stays - could we sign a new 10 and play Rutter on the
> wing?)
> New LW
> New CF (I’d like to see Joseph get a run)
>
> S
>
> Sent from Outlook for iOS
> 
> From: Leedslist  on behalf of Paul Cundell <
> p...@cundell.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 27, 2024 10:20:38 AM
> To: Richard Walker 
> Cc: leedslist 
> Subject: Re: [LU] Championship
>
> "None of that team is good enough for the PL currently, not one of them."
> I thought that after we lost to QPR tbh, if a team chasing automatic
> promotion can get hammered by a team struggling to stay up then I'd hate to
> see that team face Citeh, Arse or even Scum.
>
> On Mon, 27 May 2024, 09:47 Richard Walker via Leedslist, <
> leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:
>
> > Team didn’t turn up unlike us lot who did at great expense. It was
> > Doncaster revisited and I hate Wembley and hope I never return.
> > I’ve got nothing to say about the match other than Summerville played in
> > gloves, the match passed Piroe by and Rutter showed us that he hasn’t
> been
> > the same player since his op.
> > None of that team is good enough for the PL currently, not one of them.
> We
> > got excited by the Norwich game but let’s face facts, they were rubbish.
> > On the last train out of Kings X there were a lot of very fed up fans but
> > all agreed that this team is a 100% championship team with a manager who
> is
> > a 100% championship manager.
> > Be interested to see who jumps ship and actually who wants to buy them ?
> >
> >
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Re: [LU] Championship

[Simon McNally via Leedslist]

What are we thinking for the team next year?

I’m assuming Gnonto and Summerville will be off, hopefully we get some fees for 
the loan players that jumped ship. Have heard suggestions that they might try 
to cash in on Meslier too.

With the parachute payments hopefully we can get a decent team together.
The hope that I’m clinging to is that the 49s aren’t in this to make up the 
numbers and will invest in the squad.

Here’s what I’m thinking :
New GK
New RB
CB Ampadu
CB Struijk
LB Firpo (can’t see there being any offers for him)
CM Gray (fingers crossed he stays)
CM Gruev
RW James
CAM Rutter (if he stays - could we sign a new 10 and play Rutter on the wing?)
New LW
New CF (I’d like to see Joseph get a run)

S

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Sent: Monday, May 27, 2024 10:20:38 AM
To: Richard Walker 
Cc: leedslist 
Subject: Re: [LU] Championship

"None of that team is good enough for the PL currently, not one of them."
I thought that after we lost to QPR tbh, if a team chasing automatic
promotion can get hammered by a team struggling to stay up then I'd hate to
see that team face Citeh, Arse or even Scum.

On Mon, 27 May 2024, 09:47 Richard Walker via Leedslist, <
leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:

> Team didn’t turn up unlike us lot who did at great expense. It was
> Doncaster revisited and I hate Wembley and hope I never return.
> I’ve got nothing to say about the match other than Summerville played in
> gloves, the match passed Piroe by and Rutter showed us that he hasn’t been
> the same player since his op.
> None of that team is good enough for the PL currently, not one of them. We
> got excited by the Norwich game but let’s face facts, they were rubbish.
> On the last train out of Kings X there were a lot of very fed up fans but
> all agreed that this team is a 100% championship team with a manager who is
> a 100% championship manager.
> Be interested to see who jumps ship and actually who wants to buy them ?
>
>
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Re: [LU] Championship

[Paul Cundell]

"None of that team is good enough for the PL currently, not one of them."
I thought that after we lost to QPR tbh, if a team chasing automatic
promotion can get hammered by a team struggling to stay up then I'd hate to
see that team face Citeh, Arse or even Scum.

On Mon, 27 May 2024, 09:47 Richard Walker via Leedslist, <
leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:

> Team didn’t turn up unlike us lot who did at great expense. It was
> Doncaster revisited and I hate Wembley and hope I never return.
> I’ve got nothing to say about the match other than Summerville played in
> gloves, the match passed Piroe by and Rutter showed us that he hasn’t been
> the same player since his op.
> None of that team is good enough for the PL currently, not one of them. We
> got excited by the Norwich game but let’s face facts, they were rubbish.
> On the last train out of Kings X there were a lot of very fed up fans but
> all agreed that this team is a 100% championship team with a manager who is
> a 100% championship manager.
> Be interested to see who jumps ship and actually who wants to buy them ?
>
>
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Re: [LU] Championship

[Ted]

I can't really argue with most if that Rich.

4 Wembley visits and one millennium stadium visit for me and we've only won
an unimportant Charity Shield. I won't be going again either.  I just feel
let down.

My only disagreement with your comments is I reckon Rodon (altho he isn't
ours), Ampadou (sp) and maybe a future Archie would be okay in the Prem.

Personally, I'd stick with Farke, after all - he did get 90 points after an
awful season start situation.

Oh well.

Ted H



On Mon, 27 May 2024, 09:47 Richard Walker via Leedslist, <
leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:

> Team didn’t turn up unlike us lot who did at great expense. It was
> Doncaster revisited and I hate Wembley and hope I never return.
> I’ve got nothing to say about the match other than Summerville played in
> gloves, the match passed Piroe by and Rutter showed us that he hasn’t been
> the same player since his op.
> None of that team is good enough for the PL currently, not one of them. We
> got excited by the Norwich game but let’s face facts, they were rubbish.
> On the last train out of Kings X there were a lot of very fed up fans but
> all agreed that this team is a 100% championship team with a manager who is
> a 100% championship manager.
> Be interested to see who jumps ship and actually who wants to buy them ?
>
>
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>
>
> On Monday, May 27, 2024, 8:09 AM, Damian WALSH <
> damian.wa...@euromaster.com> wrote:
>
> Funny enough that's sort of how the aftermath feels like too.
>
> I'm numbly upset but no great passion - all a bit vague really, bit like
> the match :)
>
> Damian
>
> Le dim. 26 mai 2024 à 22:25, Graham White via Leedslist <
> leedslist@gn.apc.org> a écrit :
>
> >  "like watching paint dry".
> >
> >
> > Started so positive & on the front foot for most of the first 10, solid &
> > determined - and then came the first defensive wobble when they broke
> down
> > our right…
> > I hoped that would act as a wake up call but didn’t… Sure enough soon
> they
> > scored while Rodon & Amps stood pointing at each other & Archie
> > unfortunately had dropped too far so played Armstrong on…
> >
> > From that moment on we never really looked like getting into the game
> > again.
> >
> > Too many of our players didn’t believe in it (and that has to be laid on
> > Farke) - but the one that did was the first to be replaced which summed
> > quite a lot up.
> >
> > Rutter & Cree were well below par, and should’ve been replaced on the
> hour
> > at least. Gruev & Kamara struggled to get anything going - and not once
> did
> > we see the triangulation play between Kamara, Cree, Rutter & Firps which
> > have become a bit of our speciality this season…
> >
> > And the combination Rutter/Piroe hasn’t worked well ever & won’t work in
> > the future either if one of them keeps insisting on not interacting with
> > the other. Another thing for DF to sort out.
> > Maybe he should let one of them go. There’s no indication that Rutter
> will
> > find his form from before the break & operation again… on his current
> > showing he’s a big question mark.
> >
> > Anyway, thought Dan James did well when he came on, desperately unlucky
> > with his effort, and at least we did try hard in the end to force a goal.
> >
> > Too little too late as the saying goes.
> >
> > Next season can’t start too soon. Not looking forward to the summer of
> > silly season crap but that’s what it is.
> >
> > Hope and pray for a few good additions and that we don’t lose too many of
> > our most influential players. Our squad was never big enough this season
> so
> > additions are needed.
> >
> > Why not try and find a left back who can defend? Heard that one before?
> > Wish list can become long!
> >
> > Realistically we won’t be able to keep Willy or Cree, but let’s hope
> > Archie stays!
> >
> > /Raffe
> >
> >
> > My iPhone
> >
> > > On 26 May 2024, at 18:22, Kevin Lewis via Leedslist <
> > leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > There we are. Encapsulates the season. Loads of possession. Shit set
> > > pieces. Pathetic shooting.
> > >
> > > I think the management are happier in the championship, where they can
> > win
> > > more than they lose, without having to take any risks.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Inline images
> > >
> > > The Harwellian Club
> > > Westfield
> > > Harwell
> > > Oxon
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Re: [LU] Championship

[John Boocock]

Is the goalkeeping coach currently our set piece specialist? I'm sure I 
heard that somewhere. Sack him.


On 27/05/2024 09:41, Robert Heath wrote:

I do think he and we need to appoint a specialist set piece coach though.

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Re: [LU] Championship

[Richard Walker via Leedslist]

Team didn’t turn up unlike us lot who did at great expense. It was Doncaster 
revisited and I hate Wembley and hope I never return.
I’ve got nothing to say about the match other than Summerville played in 
gloves, the match passed Piroe by and Rutter showed us that he hasn’t been the 
same player since his op. 
None of that team is good enough for the PL currently, not one of them. We got 
excited by the Norwich game but let’s face facts, they were rubbish.
On the last train out of Kings X there were a lot of very fed up fans but all 
agreed that this team is a 100% championship team with a manager who is a 100% 
championship manager. 
Be interested to see who jumps ship and actually who wants to buy them ? 




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On Monday, May 27, 2024, 8:09 AM, Damian WALSH  
wrote:

Funny enough that's sort of how the aftermath feels like too.

I'm numbly upset but no great passion - all a bit vague really, bit like
the match :)

Damian

Le dim. 26 mai 2024 à 22:25, Graham White via Leedslist <
leedslist@gn.apc.org> a écrit :

>  "like watching paint dry".
>
>
> Started so positive & on the front foot for most of the first 10, solid &
> determined - and then came the first defensive wobble when they broke down
> our right…
> I hoped that would act as a wake up call but didn’t… Sure enough soon they
> scored while Rodon & Amps stood pointing at each other & Archie
> unfortunately had dropped too far so played Armstrong on…
>
> From that moment on we never really looked like getting into the game
> again.
>
> Too many of our players didn’t believe in it (and that has to be laid on
> Farke) - but the one that did was the first to be replaced which summed
> quite a lot up.
>
> Rutter & Cree were well below par, and should’ve been replaced on the hour
> at least. Gruev & Kamara struggled to get anything going - and not once did
> we see the triangulation play between Kamara, Cree, Rutter & Firps which
> have become a bit of our speciality this season…
>
> And the combination Rutter/Piroe hasn’t worked well ever & won’t work in
> the future either if one of them keeps insisting on not interacting with
> the other. Another thing for DF to sort out.
> Maybe he should let one of them go. There’s no indication that Rutter will
> find his form from before the break & operation again… on his current
> showing he’s a big question mark.
>
> Anyway, thought Dan James did well when he came on, desperately unlucky
> with his effort, and at least we did try hard in the end to force a goal.
>
> Too little too late as the saying goes.
>
> Next season can’t start too soon. Not looking forward to the summer of
> silly season crap but that’s what it is.
>
> Hope and pray for a few good additions and that we don’t lose too many of
> our most influential players. Our squad was never big enough this season so
> additions are needed.
>
> Why not try and find a left back who can defend? Heard that one before?
> Wish list can become long!
>
> Realistically we won’t be able to keep Willy or Cree, but let’s hope
> Archie stays!
>
> /Raffe
>
>
> My iPhone
>
> > On 26 May 2024, at 18:22, Kevin Lewis via Leedslist <
> leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:
> >
> > There we are. Encapsulates the season. Loads of possession. Shit set
> > pieces. Pathetic shooting.
> >
> > I think the management are happier in the championship, where they can
> win
> > more than they lose, without having to take any risks.
> >
> >
> >
> > Inline images
> >
> > The Harwellian Club
> > Westfield
> > Harwell
> > Oxon
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Re: [LU] Championship

[Robert Heath]

The suggestion that Farke should be sacked is beyond ridiculous.

I do think he and we need to appoint a specialist set piece coach though.

I'm currently pinning my hopes on the thought that maybe just maybe we
might be able to keep Rodon on another season loan.

I'm reasonably sanguine about another year in the Chumpionship... I'm
just cross that Soton are going up.

On Mon, 27 May 2024, 10:12 Simon McNally via Leedslist, <
leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:

> I feel similar.
> Maybe because I didn’t expect us to win I’m not too disappointed.
> Thought we started brightly but faded.
> Too slow and predictable in the build up (as we have been for a while),
> hard to say if that’s on Farke or the players (or both).
> Seen a lot of calls for Farke to go. Two schools of thought though I guess.
> Can you sack someone who got 90 points and was one game away from
> promotion? Do we need more instability by changing manager again? How much
> would it cost as he’s on a 3 year deal?
> The other side would say he’s been out thought by Martin three times now,
> doesn’t have a plan b other than to chuck a load of attackers on or a plan
> a really other than hope Jimmy or Rutter do something amazing.
> The football has been a bit slow and dull too.
> I’m not sure which I agree with , maybe a bit of both.
>
> Enjoyed my Wembley experience (particularly how quick it was to get a beer
> in the ground) up to the actual game!
>
> S
>
> Sent from Outlook for iOS
> 
> From: Leedslist  on behalf of Damian WALSH <
> damian.wa...@euromaster.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 27, 2024 8:08:18 AM
> To: leedslist 
> Subject: Re: [LU] Championship
>
> Funny enough that's sort of how the aftermath feels like too.
>
> I'm numbly upset but no great passion - all a bit vague really, bit like
> the match :)
>
> Damian
>
> Le dim. 26 mai 2024 à 22:25, Graham White via Leedslist <
> leedslist@gn.apc.org> a écrit :
>
> >  "like watching paint dry".
> >
> >
> > Started so positive & on the front foot for most of the first 10, solid &
> > determined - and then came the first defensive wobble when they broke
> down
> > our right…
> > I hoped that would act as a wake up call but didn’t… Sure enough soon
> they
> > scored while Rodon & Amps stood pointing at each other & Archie
> > unfortunately had dropped too far so played Armstrong on…
> >
> > From that moment on we never really looked like getting into the game
> > again.
> >
> > Too many of our players didn’t believe in it (and that has to be laid on
> > Farke) - but the one that did was the first to be replaced which summed
> > quite a lot up.
> >
> > Rutter & Cree were well below par, and should’ve been replaced on the
> hour
> > at least. Gruev & Kamara struggled to get anything going - and not once
> did
> > we see the triangulation play between Kamara, Cree, Rutter & Firps which
> > have become a bit of our speciality this season…
> >
> > And the combination Rutter/Piroe hasn’t worked well ever & won’t work in
> > the future either if one of them keeps insisting on not interacting with
> > the other. Another thing for DF to sort out.
> > Maybe he should let one of them go. There’s no indication that Rutter
> will
> > find his form from before the break & operation again… on his current
> > showing he’s a big question mark.
> >
> > Anyway, thought Dan James did well when he came on, desperately unlucky
> > with his effort, and at least we did try hard in the end to force a goal.
> >
> > Too little too late as the saying goes.
> >
> > Next season can’t start too soon. Not looking forward to the summer of
> > silly season crap but that’s what it is.
> >
> > Hope and pray for a few good additions and that we don’t lose too many of
> > our most influential players. Our squad was never big enough this season
> so
> > additions are needed.
> >
> > Why not try and find a left back who can defend? Heard that one before?
> > Wish list can become long!
> >
> > Realistically we won’t be able to keep Willy or Cree, but let’s hope
> > Archie stays!
> >
> > /Raffe
> >
> >
> > My iPhone
> >
> > > On 26 May 2024, at 18:22, Kevin Lewis via Leedslist <
> > leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > There we are. Encapsulates the season. Loads of possession. Shit set
> > > pieces. Pathetic shooting.
> > >
> > > I think the management are happier in the championship, where they can
> > win
> > > more than they lose, without having to take any risks.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Inline images
> > >
> > > The Harwellian Club
> > > Westfield
> > > Harwell
> > > Oxon
> > > OX11 0LG
> > > Industrial & Provident Company Number IP13363R.  VAT Number:
> GB200735313
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> > > Dave 

Re: [LU] Championship

[Simon McNally via Leedslist]

I feel similar.
Maybe because I didn’t expect us to win I’m not too disappointed.
Thought we started brightly but faded.
Too slow and predictable in the build up (as we have been for a while), hard to 
say if that’s on Farke or the players (or both).
Seen a lot of calls for Farke to go. Two schools of thought though I guess.
Can you sack someone who got 90 points and was one game away from promotion? Do 
we need more instability by changing manager again? How much would it cost as 
he’s on a 3 year deal?
The other side would say he’s been out thought by Martin three times now, 
doesn’t have a plan b other than to chuck a load of attackers on or a plan a 
really other than hope Jimmy or Rutter do something amazing.
The football has been a bit slow and dull too.
I’m not sure which I agree with , maybe a bit of both.

Enjoyed my Wembley experience (particularly how quick it was to get a beer in 
the ground) up to the actual game!

S

Sent from Outlook for iOS

From: Leedslist  on behalf of Damian WALSH 

Sent: Monday, May 27, 2024 8:08:18 AM
To: leedslist 
Subject: Re: [LU] Championship

Funny enough that's sort of how the aftermath feels like too.

I'm numbly upset but no great passion - all a bit vague really, bit like
the match :)

Damian

Le dim. 26 mai 2024 à 22:25, Graham White via Leedslist <
leedslist@gn.apc.org> a écrit :

>  "like watching paint dry".
>
>
> Started so positive & on the front foot for most of the first 10, solid &
> determined - and then came the first defensive wobble when they broke down
> our right…
> I hoped that would act as a wake up call but didn’t… Sure enough soon they
> scored while Rodon & Amps stood pointing at each other & Archie
> unfortunately had dropped too far so played Armstrong on…
>
> From that moment on we never really looked like getting into the game
> again.
>
> Too many of our players didn’t believe in it (and that has to be laid on
> Farke) - but the one that did was the first to be replaced which summed
> quite a lot up.
>
> Rutter & Cree were well below par, and should’ve been replaced on the hour
> at least. Gruev & Kamara struggled to get anything going - and not once did
> we see the triangulation play between Kamara, Cree, Rutter & Firps which
> have become a bit of our speciality this season…
>
> And the combination Rutter/Piroe hasn’t worked well ever & won’t work in
> the future either if one of them keeps insisting on not interacting with
> the other. Another thing for DF to sort out.
> Maybe he should let one of them go. There’s no indication that Rutter will
> find his form from before the break & operation again… on his current
> showing he’s a big question mark.
>
> Anyway, thought Dan James did well when he came on, desperately unlucky
> with his effort, and at least we did try hard in the end to force a goal.
>
> Too little too late as the saying goes.
>
> Next season can’t start too soon. Not looking forward to the summer of
> silly season crap but that’s what it is.
>
> Hope and pray for a few good additions and that we don’t lose too many of
> our most influential players. Our squad was never big enough this season so
> additions are needed.
>
> Why not try and find a left back who can defend? Heard that one before?
> Wish list can become long!
>
> Realistically we won’t be able to keep Willy or Cree, but let’s hope
> Archie stays!
>
> /Raffe
>
>
> My iPhone
>
> > On 26 May 2024, at 18:22, Kevin Lewis via Leedslist <
> leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:
> >
> > There we are. Encapsulates the season. Loads of possession. Shit set
> > pieces. Pathetic shooting.
> >
> > I think the management are happier in the championship, where they can
> win
> > more than they lose, without having to take any risks.
> >
> >
> >
> > Inline images
> >
> > The Harwellian Club
> > Westfield
> > Harwell
> > Oxon
> > OX11 0LG
> > Industrial & Provident Company Number IP13363R.  VAT Number: GB200735313
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Re: [LU] Championship

[Damian WALSH]

Funny enough that's sort of how the aftermath feels like too.

I'm numbly upset but no great passion - all a bit vague really, bit like
the match :)

Damian

Le dim. 26 mai 2024 à 22:25, Graham White via Leedslist <
leedslist@gn.apc.org> a écrit :

>  "like watching paint dry".
>
>
> Started so positive & on the front foot for most of the first 10, solid &
> determined - and then came the first defensive wobble when they broke down
> our right…
> I hoped that would act as a wake up call but didn’t… Sure enough soon they
> scored while Rodon & Amps stood pointing at each other & Archie
> unfortunately had dropped too far so played Armstrong on…
>
> From that moment on we never really looked like getting into the game
> again.
>
> Too many of our players didn’t believe in it (and that has to be laid on
> Farke) - but the one that did was the first to be replaced which summed
> quite a lot up.
>
> Rutter & Cree were well below par, and should’ve been replaced on the hour
> at least. Gruev & Kamara struggled to get anything going - and not once did
> we see the triangulation play between Kamara, Cree, Rutter & Firps which
> have become a bit of our speciality this season…
>
> And the combination Rutter/Piroe hasn’t worked well ever & won’t work in
> the future either if one of them keeps insisting on not interacting with
> the other. Another thing for DF to sort out.
> Maybe he should let one of them go. There’s no indication that Rutter will
> find his form from before the break & operation again… on his current
> showing he’s a big question mark.
>
> Anyway, thought Dan James did well when he came on, desperately unlucky
> with his effort, and at least we did try hard in the end to force a goal.
>
> Too little too late as the saying goes.
>
> Next season can’t start too soon. Not looking forward to the summer of
> silly season crap but that’s what it is.
>
> Hope and pray for a few good additions and that we don’t lose too many of
> our most influential players. Our squad was never big enough this season so
> additions are needed.
>
> Why not try and find a left back who can defend? Heard that one before?
> Wish list can become long!
>
> Realistically we won’t be able to keep Willy or Cree, but let’s hope
> Archie stays!
>
> /Raffe
>
>
> My iPhone
>
> > On 26 May 2024, at 18:22, Kevin Lewis via Leedslist <
> leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:
> >
> > There we are. Encapsulates the season. Loads of possession. Shit set
> > pieces. Pathetic shooting.
> >
> > I think the management are happier in the championship, where they can
> win
> > more than they lose, without having to take any risks.
> >
> >
> >
> > Inline images
> >
> > The Harwellian Club
> > Westfield
> > Harwell
> > Oxon
> > OX11 0LG
> > Industrial & Provident Company Number IP13363R.  VAT Number: GB200735313
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