Re: [LU] Return to Yesteryear

[Brendan McWilliams]

Happy Birthday John Boocock!

Have a(nother) great party!

All the best,

BMW


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Sent: Saturday, September 2, 2023 1:08:04 PM
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Subject: Re: [LU] Return to Yesteryear

John,
I thought you were 80 ;-).

James.
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As part of my 70th Birthday year celebrations (my family have insisted

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Re: [LU] Coming soon

[Brendan Osborne]

Yes indeed, best wishes to all for the year ahead.


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All of ye,

Here is to the best 2023. MOT ALAW

Betty and the family in the Northern Pennines.
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Re: [LU] Long live our noble queen (not any more)

[Brendan McWilliams]

Richard Walker, Verner - and anyone else who left - get back on the WhatsApp, 
your inputs make the list, especially Richard's reports!

BMW

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   I know what you are saying and you are 100% correct.
   I just couldn't believe some of the bile.
   Life is too short.
   Best wishes,
   Verner

   On 9 Sept 2022 13:24, Michael Benjamin  wrote:

   I A have learned a never leave & donat ask for expulsions.
   Just do not give in

   A

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   A

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   Sent: Friday, September 9, 2022 2:26 PM
   To: Richard Walker 
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   Subject: Re: [LU] Long live our noble queen (not any more)

   A

   I too left the WhatsApp list.

   Truly disgusted me.A

   A

   A

   Best wishes,A

   A

   VernerA

   A

   On 9 Sept 2022 12:17, Richard Walker via Leedslist
   <[8]leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:

 Agree Mike. I've taken myself off the WhatsApp due to people on
 there thinking they are funny, making jokes about the queen's death.
 Unbelievable really but that's what we've become.A
 A A A  On Friday, 9 September 2022 at 11:06:30 BST, Michael Benjamin
 <[9]m...@myray.com> wrote:A
 Simply gob-smacked by that ridiculous remark.

 Neither the time nor the place.

 DrA  Michael Benjamin,
 Community Psychiatrist.
 Oranit,
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 I can't believe in all this sycophantic fawning over the Chief
 Parasite they have not mentioned the greatest day in her
 life.8 May,
 1972 when she got to shake hands with Billy Bremner!
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Re: [LU] Raphinha

[Brendan Osborne]

Great read - couldn't agree more.


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Subject: Re: [LU] Raphinha

Seconded.

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Fantastic.

I like him more now, man.


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https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theplayerstribune.com%2Fposts%2Fraphinha-leeds-united-premier-league-soccer&data=04%7C01%7C%7C9375d09fc5264c09801808d9695d0dbf%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637656670653173790%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=OPcntWxtruHIVJKG29bF3xP4XSmMcJXYc4ejUp00efY%3D&reserved=0

A brilliant read explains why he looks so angry on the pitch 😂
He will be a real star if we can keep him ( he may love it here but moneyAnd 
ambition will talk) Dave At least with international beak my 10 day isolation 
will not mean I have to miss any home games .
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Re: [LU] Raphinha

[Brendan McWilliams]

Outstanding read!

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From: Leedslist  on behalf of Richard Walker via 
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Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2021 6:57:11 PM
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Subject: Re: [LU] Raphinha

Bloody great read that Dave. Cheers


On Thursday, August 26, 2021, 4:33 pm, nattan--- via Leedslist 
 wrote:

https://www.theplayerstribune.com/posts/raphinha-leeds-united-premier-league-soccer

A brilliant read explains why he looks so angry on the pitch 😂
He will be a real star if we can keep him ( he may love it here but moneyAnd 
ambition will talk)
Dave At least with international beak my 10 day isolation will not mean I have 
to miss any home games .
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Re: [LU] Villa

[Brendan McWilliams]

What's more, just go back to Bielsa's first match against Stoke. Look who 
started and those on the bench, twelve are still there, thirteen if Douglas had 
stayed.

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Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2020 5:43:37 PM
To: bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk 
Cc: leeds list leedslist@gn.apc.org 
Subject: Re: [LU] Villa

"someone retorted with ‘the lad who runs around alot’."

I think I might have been that "someone."

I am more than happy.I am ecstatic..to admit that I
underestimated the lad.

To think that we blew away the form team of the division with a makeshift
team, well it is literally incredible!

My only mild regret is that Jackie H made his ONLY misjudgement of the
entire match with the last kick of the game. If he had played that ball
inside to any of the about 99 Leeds players who were forming a socially
distanced queue along the line of the penalty spot whilst the red-faced
Grealish & Barkley & chums were panting their way back towards the box we
would have had another glorious goal to celebrate.

On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 2:45 PM  wrote:

> Remember when I said we should build a team around Shackleton, and someone
> retorted with ‘the lad who runs around alot’.
>
> The defence rests its case m’lud ;-)
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On 24 Oct 2020, at 12:28, Jeremy Adams 
> wrote:
> >
> > The epitome of this performance was when, in the 94th minute, we're 3-0
> up, we still steam forward and have a breakaway where 7 players charge up
> the pitch together and we have a 7v4 situation, as the Villa squad had
> given up by then. If Harrison had just laid it back to one of the 4 players
> lined along the edge of the box it would have been 4-0.
> > 
> > From: Leedslist  on behalf of Robert
> Heath 
> > Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2020 5:01 AM
> > To: Richard Walker 
> > Cc: leeds list leedslist@gn.apc.org 
> > Subject: Re: [LU] Villa
> >
> > Absolutely!
> >
> > I can't get the image out of my head (not that I'm trying very hard!) of
> us
> > streaming forward with 5 or 6 players combining, gorgeous passes and
> > one-touches, Vanilla players floundering in our wake.
> >
> > The 1st goal, for example..replays of it only show the move from
> > near the halfway line, but actually it began right next to our corner
> flag
> > with Costa in a tight situation and a difficult bouncing ball. Almost
> every
> > other player in the league would have just launched the ball up the
> > touchline to buy time and let the defence regroup. And every other
> manager
> > would have told him to do that. Not Bielsa though. Within seconds, and
> > probably no more than 10 touches, the ball was in the back of the Vanilla
> > net!
> >
> > And yeah, Rodrigo! I would just have had Harrison edging Rodrigo as MoM,
> > but the Spaniard was superb. And he cost less than Watkins!
> >
> > Re the 3rd goal..a lot of people have said that Mings was at
> fault
> > for not closing Bamford down. But that goal was a vindication of the
> Bielsa
> > style. The pass-and-move football we play is so draining on opponents. I
> > think it was Shackleton who was running in behind Mings. mings expected
> > Bamford to pass, so he stood off and prepared to slide back to deal with
> > the pass. And Bamford showed the brilliance there of a good footballer;
> > following the simple dictum - if you see your opponent expects you to do
> > one thing, do something else.
> >
> > So it is quite clear now: the only way to stop this wonderful team of
> ours
> > is to adopt the Wigan approach, which is what Wolves did. It will be
> > fascinating to see if the likes of Leicester & Arse dare to try to attack
> > us or just sit back in a low block.
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 10:29 AM Richard Walker via Leedslist <
> > leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Couldn't sleep last night as I reflected on what was in my opinion the
> >> best Leeds performance since the European games. It was that good and
> >> there's even an argument to say that the 2nd half was one of the best
> I've
> >> ever seen. Some statement but we were that good.
> >> The way we attacked with pace was devastating and Villa just couldn't
> live
> >> with us. Ross Barkley looked like a lower league journeyman as he wasn't
> >> allowed to have time on the ball and found himself having to do more
> >> running than he's ever done in his life. He was f*cked. I'd heard a lof
> >> good things about Luiz and how he conrols the midfield, well he
> certainly
> >> didn't know what hit him yesterday. Every time he got the ball, Klich
> and
> >> co were on him and his best efforts came from pretending to be fouled.
> >> Grealish had his moments as he always will but he plays in spurts and
> isnt
> >> a great team player. He's also a cheat. The foul by Stujik was a certain
> >> yellow card but if you watch it, Strujik doesn't make that much con

Re: [LU] Villa

[Brendan McWilliams]

A joy to read Richard, and I was so pleased for Alioski and Bamford. We all 
doubted them, but last night they were outstanding.

Costa was very average in the 1st half and although he improved in the 2nd, 
it's a question of time before Raphinha starts there.

Will have another Ribera del Duero tonight!

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From: Leedslist  on behalf of Richard Walker via 
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Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2020 3:42:46 PM
To: bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk ; Jeremy Adams 

Cc: leeds list leedslist@gn.apc.org 
Subject: Re: [LU] Villa

Always liked the lad and now he’s clear of injuries he should be playing more 
but I fear when Philips returns he won’t get a look in.


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On Saturday, October 24, 2020, 1:45 pm, bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

Remember when I said we should build a team around Shackleton, and someone 
retorted with ‘the lad who runs around alot’.

The defence rests its case m’lud ;-)

Sent from my iPad

> On 24 Oct 2020, at 12:28, Jeremy Adams  wrote:
>
> The epitome of this performance was when, in the 94th minute, we're 3-0 up, 
> we still steam forward and have a breakaway where 7 players charge up the 
> pitch together and we have a 7v4 situation, as the Villa squad had given up 
> by then. If Harrison had just laid it back to one of the 4 players lined 
> along the edge of the box it would have been 4-0.
> 
> From: Leedslist  on behalf of Robert Heath 
> 
> Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2020 5:01 AM
> To: Richard Walker 
> Cc: leeds list leedslist@gn.apc.org 
> Subject: Re: [LU] Villa
>
> Absolutely!
>
> I can't get the image out of my head (not that I'm trying very hard!) of us
> streaming forward with 5 or 6 players combining, gorgeous passes and
> one-touches, Vanilla players floundering in our wake.
>
> The 1st goal, for example..replays of it only show the move from
> near the halfway line, but actually it began right next to our corner flag
> with Costa in a tight situation and a difficult bouncing ball. Almost every
> other player in the league would have just launched the ball up the
> touchline to buy time and let the defence regroup. And every other manager
> would have told him to do that. Not Bielsa though. Within seconds, and
> probably no more than 10 touches, the ball was in the back of the Vanilla
> net!
>
> And yeah, Rodrigo! I would just have had Harrison edging Rodrigo as MoM,
> but the Spaniard was superb. And he cost less than Watkins!
>
> Re the 3rd goal..a lot of people have said that Mings was at fault
> for not closing Bamford down. But that goal was a vindication of the Bielsa
> style. The pass-and-move football we play is so draining on opponents. I
> think it was Shackleton who was running in behind Mings. mings expected
> Bamford to pass, so he stood off and prepared to slide back to deal with
> the pass. And Bamford showed the brilliance there of a good footballer;
> following the simple dictum - if you see your opponent expects you to do
> one thing, do something else.
>
> So it is quite clear now: the only way to stop this wonderful team of ours
> is to adopt the Wigan approach, which is what Wolves did. It will be
> fascinating to see if the likes of Leicester & Arse dare to try to attack
> us or just sit back in a low block.
>
> On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 10:29 AM Richard Walker via Leedslist <
> leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:
>
>> Couldn't sleep last night as I reflected on what was in my opinion the
>> best Leeds performance since the European games. It was that good and
>> there's even an argument to say that the 2nd half was one of the best I've
>> ever seen. Some statement but we were that good.
>> The way we attacked with pace was devastating and Villa just couldn't live
>> with us. Ross Barkley looked like a lower league journeyman as he wasn't
>> allowed to have time on the ball and found himself having to do more
>> running than he's ever done in his life. He was f*cked. I'd heard a lof
>> good things about Luiz and how he conrols the midfield, well he certainly
>> didn't know what hit him yesterday. Every time he got the ball, Klich and
>> co were on him and his best efforts came from pretending to be fouled.
>> Grealish had his moments as he always will but he plays in spurts and isnt
>> a great team player. He's also a cheat. The foul by Stujik was a certain
>> yellow card but if you watch it, Strujik doesn't make that much contact and
>> there's no way it  would have resulted in a player looking like he was dead
>> for 5 mins. Also the dive for the pen was disgusting and countless other
>> annoyances like keeping hold of the ball and not giving it back when Leeds
>> were trying to take a free kick. He just did it to annoy, no other reason.
>> Grade A c*nt !
>> Anyway, back to us and where do you start ? The inter-play down the left
>> between Allioski and Harrison was breathtaking and Matty Cash could only
>>

Re: [LU] David DRB Brennan

[Brendan Osborne]

Similarly, I didn't know Dave personally, but always enjoyed his contributions 
to the list. Condolences to his family and friends, and his Leeds family too.

RIP Dave


Brendan



From: Leedslist  on behalf of Nicholas Armit via 
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Sent: Thursday 25 June 2020 18:56
To: John Boocock ; leedslist@gn.apc.org 
; Richard Naef 
Subject: Re: [LU] David DRB Brennan

I didn't know Dave, but obviously read him on the list. My condolences to his 
family John.
Nick
On Thursday, June 25, 2020, 01:04:49 PM EDT, Richard Naef 
 wrote:

 Thanks for letting us know John, sad news of another loss.  Please pass on my 
wishes if you speak to the family again.

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of John Boocock
Sent: 25 June 2020 15:47
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: [LU] David DRB Brennan

Dear All,

Earlier this week we heard of the sad death of one of the earliest members and 
most loved characters from the list, David “DRB” Brennan.
Not only was DRB a list regular in the 90s as a trawl through the archives held 
by James Lundon proved but he also wrote a lot of good stuff.

As a season ticket-holder he used to go to reserve matches at The Shay and (as 
well as Maggie Barber) post regular reports of the reserves’
progress. He was a regular source of ticket information and became very 
friendly with Mandy in the ticket office especially when trying to find out 
what times cup matches would be played and what the ticket allocations would be.

DRB and his wife Kate were part of a gang that regularly met pre-match (he was 
an Adolphi regular), he was at the MOALM and he was the man behind the 
sponsored head shave at the first Euronet in 1996.

Like others on the list he was a Northern Soul boy, coming from Horsforth what 
else would he be?

One of the friendliest, funniest and kindest blokes I have had the pleasure to 
meet he will always be the example I would use of what the list is about.

DRB leaves behind, Kate and the two boys Sid and Bradley and we have been in 
touch to send our sympathy. No date has been set for what will be a very small 
family funeral but his brother-in-law suggests there might be a memorial 
service in the future. The family has asked, if anyone wishes to, that 
donations are made to MIND which is a charity DRB supported. 
(https://www.mind.org.uk/donate/)

We checked with the family before we posted anything to the list and they were 
happy for us to do this. As we get more information, we will pass this on but 
in the meantime please enjoy the following post to the list from 1996, it’s 
typical of the DRB we knew and loved (that and the bloody song he wrote about 
Tomas Brolin!)

RIP DRB.

Betty

From:VBORMC:"hss...@lucs-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk" "D.R. BRENNAN"
20-FEB-1996 11:22:41.54
To:leeds-uni...@vax.ox.ac.uk
Subj:LU: Interview

Interviewer: Mr Wilkinson, as your team selection for some games over the past 
few months has  been, shall we say, "innovative" what will be your policy for 
the Port Vale game?

HW: Well, all things considered, and bearing in mind that our players have had 
a hectic autograph signing session recently, and it will be a bit chilly, I 
think 11 players will suffice.

Interviewer: Mr Wilkinson, does this mean that even though your African players 
are back from international duty, you will not use them?

HW: All things being equal, Tony, Phil and Lucas are definitely players, and 
players want to play, want to play, but there can only be so many players, who 
play, so they may play a part in playing but it's not so warm for players who 
normally play, normally play, in a warmer climate.

Interviewer: It was suggested that in the Aston Villa game, you may have been 
better playing an attacking side, as the defence, containing so many 
youngsters, was unlikely to keep Villa out, offence being the best sort of 
defence.

HW: Youngsters, youngsters.  I was young once, and wanted to play, wanted to 
play.  You've got to give them a goal, I mean go, they may be short of pace, 
but Rob Bowman has got the same name as the Producer of the X Files, so who 
knows what might happen, might happen.  I picked the best side for the game, 
for the game.  When I start telling you where to use a metaphor instead of a 
simile, and when to employ onomatopoeic licence, then you can tell me how to 
pick and quarter of pick and mix, I mean a football team.

Interviewer:  There has been much discussion about Tomas Brolin's future at 
Elland Road.  Can you enlighten us as to the current situation?

HW: Tomas has got a white shirt, some people might say, might say, it still has 
Parmalat on it, but I say Thistle Hotels.  I know the shirts are the same 
colour, and that was a major consideration in buying Tommy.  I like continuity, 
like buying players from Sheffield, so buying a player who was used to wearing 
the same colour shirt fitted in well with our long-term p

[LU] Fwd: This year vs same time last

[Brendan McWilliams]

From: Brendan McWilliams 
Sent: Monday, 11 November 2019, 21:08
To: Leedslist
Subject: This year vs same time last

Hi all,

Had a peruse of Soccerstats this morning - and unless I was looking at it wrong 
- comparing this point of the season vs last year we've played a game less (16 
vs 17) and have a point more.

W9 D4 L3 so far vs W8 D6 L3 as at Nov 10th.

1pt more and a game less - not bad, not bad at all.

It's all about getting to 89 of course.

BMW


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Re: [LU] LU: Take Us Home

[Brendan McWilliams]

Hi Sean,

I'm halfway through it and with some exceptions it's largely fluffy PR.

But it's fluffy PR on the club WE follow, therefore it's compulsive viewing.

I'm halfway through and the Daniel James fiasco was a bit of an eye-opener.

Regards,

BMW

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Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2019 3:38:41 AM
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org 
Subject: [LU] LU: Take Us Home

So I finally finished the documentary this evening. It's very moving and I 
would recommend it. A few observations:
- It's clearly not a completely independent production. While there are 
controversial episodes covered (Bamford's feigning getting whacked against 
Villa, Spygate, etc. etc.) there's very little new information revealed about 
these. (For instance, a more "newsy" documentary might have interviewed the 
intern/employee who actually did the spying against Derby.) Some important 
episodes are completely omitted. (For example, there is absolutely no mention 
of Jack Clarke's bizarre collapse on the bench at 'Boro, let alone an 
explanation of what caused it, beyond the vague "virus" that the club belatedly 
told us about.)
- The series does not go into great detail about most of the squad or the 
backroom team. There's no mention of the under-23s winning the national 
championship, no real discussion of Carlos Corberan, Jack Clarke, Jamie 
Shackleton, etc.
- It's a brilliant portrayal of the human side of the club: players, management 
and supporters. You'd need the proverbial heart of stone not to be affected by 
the scenes of the players and backroom staff in tears after the last Derby 
game. In particular, I came away with new respect for Kalvin Phillips, Liam 
Cooper, Marcelo Bielsa, Victor Orta, Angus Kinnear and Andrea Radrizzani. One 
can criticize various personnel decisions that Orta made, particularly in his 
first season, but watching him crying after the Derby game, one can't question 
his commitment. That guy cares.
Also, the scenes with Bob Tappin made it worth the price (okay, it was free 
with Amazon Prime) on their own.
Anyway, I came away feeling even more proud to be a Leeds United supporter, 
which I didn't think was possible after all these years.
Cheers!
Sean



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Re: [LU] Henry Winter in the TImes - "why the Prem need Leeds " - great stuff and true

[Brendan McWilliams]

Hi all,

He might write very well, he might be a Leeds fan, he might be writing 
something nice about LUFC - but Henry Winter's articles are to be avoided. He's 
a sanctimonious peddler of i-told-you-so guff and he rarely actually reveals or 
investigates anything new.

Regardless of club or player, he's there buttering up someone/something when 
they're on the way up - almost as if the respective player/club hired him to do 
good PR. Then he's the first to knock them down when things take a downward 
turn, listing their faults in the past, the same ones he omitted to mention 
when he was buttering them up in the first place.  See his pre-tournament 
England squad coverage.

When the Bielsa adventure ends, he'll be there wanging on about Bielsagate, his 
being set in his ways, uncommunicative etc.  Speaking of which, when Bielsagate 
broke Twitter he let himself in for well deserved stick with his proclamations 
about not-the-done-thing-here there etc and being reminded that he freely spied 
upon the England national team and printed what he saw the very next day.

Give me David Conn any day of the week.

Also, I'm with Richard - Becchio was a living miracle of a footballer.

Regards,

BMW

PS my nerves are wrecked.


From: Leedslist  on behalf of Richard Walker via 
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Sent: 16 April 2019 10:54
To: Leeds List; nat...@sky.com
Subject: Re: [LU] Henry Winter in the TImes - "why the Prem need Leeds " - 
great stuff and true

He's definitely a Leeds fan
On Tuesday, 16 April 2019, 09:17:15 BST, nat...@sky.com  
wrote:


Why Premier League needs Leeds United

henry winter, chief football writer

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The Premier League needs Leeds United. It needs the mystique of Marcelo Bielsa, 
a manager so beloved by Leeds fans that two of them are in a recording studio 
working on Bucket Man as a musical tribute to his match-day seat of choice. It 
needs Bielsa’s intense, imaginative football. It particularly needs the passion 
of the Leeds faithful.

There are some great travelling supports in the Premier League, such as 
Manchester United and Newcastle United, among others, and Leeds would be a 
welcome addition on the road as well as with the atmosphere that they generate 
at Elland Road. After Leeds played away to Preston North End on April 9, the 
police officer in charge of the away section at Deepdale praised the 5,516 
visiting fans for being “as loud as ever and no issues, no arrests”.

Leeds fans would represent an antidote to some of the ills besetting the 
Premier League. They are the opposite of the glory-hunters swooning because of 
a club’s prominence. Leeds fans might consider a half-and-half scarf if 
stitching together Leeds United and the Kaizer Chiefs, Lucas Radebe’s old team. 
They are the antithesis of what Roy Keane famously termed the “prawn-sandwich 
brigade”. If somebody mentioned opening a tunnel club at Elland Road, the ready 
wits on their terraces would suggest that it was probably an escape route after 
15 years’ incarceration in the EFL.

Supporting Leeds is a passion passed on from generation to generation. When 
they played Sheffield Wednesday on Saturday, there were children too young to 
remember the Premiership years leaning excitedly over the yellow and blue 
railings almost two hours before kick-off at Elland Road, high-fiving Bielsa 
and his players as they marched from the bus.

Three hours later, a fan called Matt Richardson celebrated Jack Harrison’s 
winner so enthusiastically that he broke his ankle. A friend of his took a 
picture of Richardson in his seat afterwards, smiling, his left foot at a 
painful angle, continuing to watching Leeds before the medics arrived. As he 
was helped into a wheelchair, Richardson kept an eye on the game while doing a 
thumbs up to his mates, who took great delight when he was strapped in by 
shouting: “Seatbelt on”.

Richardson later tweeted from hospital that “this is what supporting Leeds 
United does to me” . . . “but idc [I don’t care] because Leeds won”. Victory 
took Leeds to 82 points, four behind the leaders Norwich City and three ahead 
of Sheffield United with four games to play in the compelling race for the two 
automatic promotion positions.

Leeds know they still have major work to complete. They also know how much they 
want it. If Leeds do go up, the city will acquire even more of a buzz, there 
will be more students switching there, and there will be smiles among 
broadcasters, knowing that noise is guaranteed at Elland Road.

After Leeds were relegated from the Premiership after a 4-1 thumping by Bolton 
Wanderers on May 2, 2004, their then caretaker-manager Eddie Gray remarked 
defiantly: “It will not be the end of the club.” No chance. Not with thousands 
of Leeds fans singing louder and louder in trying to lift vanquished players, 
including one of their own, Alan Smith, who was in tears. And this is why Leeds 
United survived. The fans. And that is why 13 days later, as the

Re: [LU] One slightly peripheral thing

[Brendan McWilliams]

Hi,

I've been prompted out of lurking

The translation by Salim is excellent.  Note that Bielsa not only speaks 
Argentinian Spanish, it's usually very technical (from a football point of 
view) and then Salim has to get the balance right between the local football 
speak and what is actually said - in seconds.

I listened to pieces of what MB said - and there's little or nothing I'd have 
changed.


BMW

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Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 5:00:59 PM
To: Robert Heath
Cc: Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] One slightly peripheral thing

As far as I know , Lamrani does no translating during the match and sits
with the injured players (Berardi, Dallas, Brownm, etc)
In fact, there are vides of him celebrating with the non-players during the
match (Alioski vs Forest)

During the match Corbaran appears to do all Bielsa's translating.

On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 at 15:39, Robert Heath  wrote:

> Just like everyone else on this list, I am now completely gaga about our
> wonderful manager.
>
> One thing though, and I've actually thought this for a while: no doubt part
> of his success is that he has very good people working for him, but one
> person he really needs to think about upgrading is his translator. I do not
> underestimate how hard it must be, but this Salim Lamrani does not do a
> very good job of translating El Genius's words into sensible English.
> Normally, if His words are not perfectly transmitted to a stupid bunch of
> reporters and a few fans watching on TV, it is no big deal, but it IS
> important that he gets his message across exactly and precisely to the
> players. (Although obviously it doesn't really look like he isn't getting
> his message across!) Furthermore, in situations like this (and hopefully we
> won't have any more of them) it is vital that his exact meaning is
> transmitted. Especially with the bastards at the FL ready to pounce on any
> indiscretion.
>
> Does Lamrani have any other role apart from translator?
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Re: [LU] team

[Brendan Osborne]

I just hope that spy stunt doesn't cost us a points deduction.

Playing well and denied a definite penalty for an offside that wasn't.

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Sent: Friday, January 11, 2019 7:51:21 PM
To: Leeds List
Subject: [LU] team

Hernandez plays!


BPF, Ayling, Cooper, Jannson, Alioski, Forshaw, Clarke, Klich,Hernandez, 
Harrison, Roofe


Bench basically the U12's


ttfn

Richard

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Re: [LU] Non LU - New Leeds Fan

[Brendan Osborne]

Ah nice one Ian!


MOT 😊



From: Leedslist  on behalf of Ian Murray 

Sent: Tuesday 21 August 2018 13:02
To: Leeds List
Subject: [LU] Non LU - New Leeds Fan

Hey all

Very pleased to announce the fact that on Thursday my wife Nicky gave birth to 
our first son and Leeds fan, Finlay (Finn) James Murray.

Finn and I watched the Rotherham game in hospital together and he was very 
pleased with our performance.

I am sure that he will think that us winning the league is just one of those 
things that happens routinely - which is how I felt in 1992.  I am so 
re-invigorated with Bielsa that I have bought an android box so that I dont 
have to miss any games this season from Perth - if they are not on that then 
they can be streamed on the leeds website.  I have also spent an unreasonable 
amount of cash on LUFC baby tat to dress the lad in.

Anyway, I am just telling everyone I know because I can't smile wide enough 
right now.

MOT

Ian
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Re: [LU] Rams(hackle)

[Brendan McWilliams]

I'm actually speechless.

Se?or BMW


From: Leedslist  on behalf of John Boocock 

Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2018 7:47:49 PM
To: Leedslist
Subject: [LU] Rams(hackle)

There are still some holes in the team (PF for one) and possession isn't
100%. Derby however are still a set of dirty bastards their attitude
compliments ours :-) Derby's new boy Tomori? Looks good in defence.

Betty (in the armchair room of the List retirement home)
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Re: [LU] Buzzing

[Brendan Osborne]

Best of luck to all for the new season. Keep your match reports coming Dave.

I'll be watching from my local in Laytown, Co. Meath.

MOT ALL.


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From: Leedslist  on behalf of nat...@sky.com 

Sent: Sunday, August 5, 2018 9:32:25 AM
To: Leeds List
Subject: [LU] Buzzing

Says it all really
I have been going every season  since I was 15, I am now 59 and yet the first 
day of the season is still so special.
I hardly slept and am mooching round the house like a kid waiting for a party

I (sort of) don't care if we win, lose or draw , but if I ever lose this 
feeling that is when I will pack it in
Come one Leeds, lets give us all a performance and an atmosphere to enjoy
BUZZING
Dave
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Re: [LU] Tippy Tappy

[Brendan McWilliams]

Hiya,


unquestionably Spain were flippin' dire yesterday. Quite how none of them 
caught on themselves that they needed to go long, use the wings or run at them 
is beyond us all.


However, a comparison with City though can't be made, nor is it fair to tie 
fully Spain's way of playing with Guardiola - in fact, Guardiola has moved on, 
but Spain hasn't.


In any case, Spain's style precedes Guardiola somewhat. Spain won Euro 2008 
with Luis Aragones (Pep became FCB manager in 2008) so they were already 
playing possession football - but they had runners: Torres (yes, he did run), 
Villa and Pedro.  This Spain put on the runners ONLY at the end to complement 
Costa with Aspas & Moreno - but by then it was too late.


The Pep comparison is also irrelevant as Man City do not play against teams who 
in a nutshell refuse to play. There's not one EPL team that would dare to play 
for a 0-0 draw - their own fans would boo them off the pitch and the coach 
would be sacked in a question of weeks.


In the WC it's of paramount importance to NOT lose your 1st game, and given 
that there's only 3 x group games, shutting-up-shop and playing for a draw is 
commonplace against the top seed.  Thus Spain (and most #1 seeds) end up 
playing against blanket defences resulting in awful tedious games until they 
get more equal opposition in the knockout stage and they can play (see France).


I can't remember the last team to take it to Spain properly - probably Holland 
4 years ago - but all my excuses above are just that - they got it badly wrong.


Anyhow, enough of my homily - not hard to see I'm a bit biased!!


BMW


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Sent: 02 July 2018 11:46
To: Brendan McWilliams; leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Tippy Tappy

Much of what you say I agree with. On Spain however, the sheer lack of 
willingness to probe was what lead to their elimination. Teams have always 
parked the bus, and whilst it can be as boring as hell, it is not their job to 
help Spain beat them. Man City employ a variety of the type of football Spain 
could have employed - possesion based but with a cutting edge, and hard 
pressing to get back any lost ball. They could have played Costa + 1 up front, 
but they didn't. And, when push came to shove, they took some really poor 
penalties. That is genuinely surprising given their pass accuracy rate, but of 
course most of that is along their back line with no pressure. I would just 
have liked them to have really had a go - they could have won the thing!

Great World Cup? Well, clearly a personal view. Refs have been good to very 
good, VAR usually a positive, stadia look great, no reports of bad stuff going 
on (aside from the ticket touting for England's game tomorrow in particular). 
But are there teams you can't wait to watch, who you know will provide real 
entertainment as well as having footballing ability? Less sure about that. 
Uruguay look the real deal - great defending, but committed attacking too 
(Suarez was outstanding v Portugal); England might be right up there, but 
there's been plenty of play-safe rubbish.




From: Brendan McWilliams 
To: "leedslist@gn.apc.org" 
Sent: Monday, 2 July 2018, 11:55
Subject: Re: [LU] Tippy Tappy


Hi all,

provoked into a semi-defence of Spain

Their way of playing - possession football  on the ground - remains the best 
quality football over the last decade. Both RM & FCB play this way, it's a joy 
to watch, has been a joy to watch now for years and you only need to look at 
their European trophies these last 10 years.

RM's midfield has the likes of Modric, Isco and Kroos, FCB have Coutinho,  
Rakitic and Messi - and none of them know how to tackle because they don't have 
to with possession football.

(Note also that RM haven't really spent that much money recently - their last 
splurge was 3 years ago, although I suspect that's about to change.)

Spain's abysmal failure is due to:
- their players and style being so good that every single frickin' team that 
plays them now has already given up before they start. They park the bus (and 
then some) and go for a 0-0 draw. Russia in particular yesterday, Iran before 
them. Even Portugal sat back.  Saying Spain are boring, yet overlooking the 
opposition is plain silly. When Mou's teams do nothing and shut up shop, the 
other team are accused of being dull?

- half the team being from a club team that has Ronaldo, the other half a club 
team that has Messi. So these guys are all waiting around for a spark of genius 
that isn't coming, then it's just giving it to someone else hoping they'll have 
that creativity. Xavi was able to do it, Isco is nearly there, but otherwise 
they're all passing around hoping for something to happen. You could say the 
same for Germany too - all waitin

Re: [LU] Tippy Tappy

[Brendan McWilliams]

Hi all,

provoked into a semi-defence of Spain

Their way of playing - possession football  on the ground - remains the best 
quality football over the last decade. Both RM & FCB play this way, it's a joy 
to watch, has been a joy to watch now for years and you only need to look at 
their European trophies these last 10 years.

RM's midfield has the likes of Modric, Isco and Kroos, FCB have Coutinho,  
Rakitic and Messi - and none of them know how to tackle because they don't have 
to with possession football.

(Note also that RM haven't really spent that much money recently - their last 
splurge was 3 years ago, although I suspect that's about to change.)

Spain's abysmal failure is due to:
- their players and style being so good that every single frickin' team that 
plays them now has already given up before they start. They park the bus (and 
then some) and go for a 0-0 draw. Russia in particular yesterday, Iran before 
them. Even Portugal sat back.  Saying Spain are boring, yet overlooking the 
opposition is plain silly. When Mou's teams do nothing and shut up shop, the 
other team are accused of being dull?

- half the team being from a club team that has Ronaldo, the other half a club 
team that has Messi. So these guys are all waiting around for a spark of genius 
that isn't coming, then it's just giving it to someone else hoping they'll have 
that creativity. Xavi was able to do it, Isco is nearly there, but otherwise 
they're all passing around hoping for something to happen. You could say the 
same for Germany too - all waiting for a killer pass or touch of magic that 
never came.

- So, if it's playing against 9 or 10 defenders and you can't dribble through 
THAT many or thread a pass through minimal space, then the only options are 
crosses from the wings or long balls from deep.  Whilst Hierro played Costa up 
front, nobody played off him (like what Griezmann does in ATM) and so he's 
totally isolated and looks like a lemon but when used right, he's outstanding.  
No wingers: yesterday they had Asensio (not a winger really), Isco went into 
the middle and Silva is brilliant but not a winger either.

All this BS about tiki-taka being dull etc - what do you do if the other team 
doesn't want to play? You give them the ball?  They usually don't even want the 
ball as they'll just lose it going forward, then get caught.  In short, Spain 
should have went longer with speed - but they didn't and another tournament 
wasted.

As to weather this is a great WC or not - yes it is.

So few teams play by lamping the ball up by default, all are playing on the 
ground, the refs have been mostly outstanding, numerous games decided in the 
last 10mins and yes, VAR has been a good addition.   The lack of "stars" you 
have to put down to the fact that there are so few very bad teams any more and 
it's a more equal tournament (compared to others). All the stars before shone 
because they were basically playing against traffic cones.

Also, who can remember Euro 92, Euro 96 (the other games), about half of Italia 
90,  quite a lot of WC2010 (Algeria vs England anyone?) they were 
absolutely dire. Best WC in recent times for me was WC2006 when a young Germany 
came through under Klinsmann playing amazing football.

BMW



From: Leedslist  on behalf of {broken-address} 
John Lee 
Sent: 02 July 2018 10:24
To: Nigel Sykes; leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Tippy Tappy

Firstly, I hadn't heard about Brian Mac - absolutely the right decision, 
despite all that has been achieved. The sheer bloody mindedness he's shown 
recently, at least publicly, in refusing to accept there were problems was 
ludicrous. The Rhinos need a serious overhaul, so should be very interesting!
Re the WC, yep, some of the European teams have been the worst for negativity. 
I'd hoped Senegal might qualify as I liked their gung-ho approach, but look 
where that got them? Mind you, the sheer amateurism of teams like Tunisia, 
Saudi Arabia when defending has been pitiful. God knows how poor the comp will 
be by the American one as they're increasing the number to 48!! They might make 
loads of money, but some of the games will be pointless!
Now, come on Mexico

  From: Nigel Sykes 
 To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
 Sent: Monday, 2 July 2018, 10:09
 Subject: Re: [LU] Tippy Tappy

Definitely not the best ever in terms of quality of football.  But in terms of 
entertainment? Sure - it took until yesterday's turgid few hours of dullness to 
remind me what the World Cup was usually like, especially in the knock-out 
stages.

Thankfully, there's only on more all-European tie left in this round, because 
that's where the fun usually drains away.

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

P.S. McDermott gone from Rhinos...

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Sent: 02 July 2018 09:59
To: Roger Goodair; leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Tip

Re: [LU] Curry

[Brendan McWilliams]

It'll last at most 2 or 3 months. His post match press conferences here in 
Spain when he was at Athletic Bilbao were pure comedy - in one of them he 
looked at the table the whole time and never once at the journalists.

_IF_ it works out, the players will be be exhausted and spent by March.

Se?or BMW


From: Leedslist  on behalf of Richard Naef 

Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2018 9:21:40 PM
To: Ben Thorpe; Phill Shields; Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] Curry



>Has he signed yet?! :)


Maybe the delay shows that all sides are serious, but want to get things right. 
 It seems that his renumeration package is not an issue, but more the 
contractual terms around what he's in control of.

I'm still not 100% convinced he is the "one".  I think his lack of English is 
going to be an issue.  People point to Pottetchino as an example of successful 
non English speakers.  Correct but there are loads more examples (Puel a very 
recent one) when it may have been a factor in their failure.  Plus Bielsa is a 
very different kettle of fish, he old at 62 as well.   His last 2 jobs have 
blown up and that was with better squads in the countries top leagues.

How are many of our players going to learn a new system in a foreign language 
in a few weeks?  Even if we buy 5 or 6 new first teamers, that's even more 
issues of integration.

I've read lots of admiring articles about his tactic's but hey all also mention 
a very fiery temperament and I'm not sure that is what's needed.

Is there anyone 100% convinced of this appointment who can calm me down?
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Re: [LU] Make that 44

[Brendan McWilliams]

Apologies SIMON :-)

From: Simon McNally 
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 12:17:09 PM
To: Brendan McWilliams
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Make that 44

Steve?

Sent from my iPhone

> On 20 Apr 2018, at 10:37, Brendan McWilliams  
> wrote:
>
> Hi John,
>
>
> just made a modest contribution to the running of the list.
>
>
> Bar a few years in the late 90s, I've been on this list since 1994 I think 
> (definitely when I was a student) and whilst Twitter has usurped a lot of the 
> chit chat, I remain on it because I WANT to read the reports from those who 
> go to the games - in particular those from Rich Walker, Dave Nattan and Steve 
> McNally.
>
>
> THANK YOU ALL
>
>
> BMW
>
>
> 
> From: Leedslist  on behalf of John Boocock 
> 
> Sent: 19 April 2018 18:16
> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] The Fabulous 43
>
> I defer to the Member for Wines Spirits and other strong drink possibly
> still esconsed in his cellars in the Heavy Woollen District
>
>
>> On 19/04/2018 19:27, Andy Brown wrote:
>> An artisan wine or beer label?
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Re: [LU] Make that 44

[Brendan McWilliams]

Hi John,


just made a modest contribution to the running of the list.


Bar a few years in the late 90s, I've been on this list since 1994 I think 
(definitely when I was a student) and whilst Twitter has usurped a lot of the 
chit chat, I remain on it because I WANT to read the reports from those who go 
to the games - in particular those from Rich Walker, Dave Nattan and Steve 
McNally.


THANK YOU ALL


BMW



From: Leedslist  on behalf of John Boocock 

Sent: 19 April 2018 18:16
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] The Fabulous 43

I defer to the Member for Wines Spirits and other strong drink possibly
still esconsed in his cellars in the Heavy Woollen District


On 19/04/2018 19:27, Andy Brown wrote:
> An artisan wine or beer label?

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[LU] Can we get Marco Silva?

[Brendan McWilliams]

Taxi for Thomas Christiansen
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Re: [LU] game

[Brendan Osborne]

Just watched Wolves give the ball away about 8 times in a row - maybe a bit 
rattled!!!



From: Leedslist  on behalf of {broken-address} 
Richard Walker 
Sent: 22 November 2017 21:00
To: Richard Walker; Nicholas Armit; Robinson, Mick; Leeds List; 
{broken-address} Richard Walker; {broken-address} Nicholas Armit
Subject: Re: [LU] game

fucking great stuff now !

  From: {broken-address} Richard Walker 

 To: Nicholas Armit ; "Robinson, Mick" 
; Leeds List ; {broken-address} 
Richard Walker ; {broken-address} 
Nicholas Armit 
 Sent: Wednesday, 22 November 2017, 20:57
 Subject: Re: [LU] game

2-1 allioski the laibility lol

  From: Nicholas Armit 
 To: "Robinson, Mick" ; Leeds List 
; {broken-address} Richard Walker 
; {broken-address} Nicholas Armit 
; Richard Walker 

 Sent: Wednesday, 22 November 2017, 20:45
 Subject: Re: [LU] game

 Well think he could have done better with the second. On second viewing the 
first was pretty top corner.
On Wednesday, November 22, 2017, 3:40:21 PM EST, Richard Walker 
 wrote:

 bit harsh on Lonergan me thinks however I agree about Beradi - not a left back 
!

  From: Nicholas Armit 
 To: "Robinson, Mick" ; Leeds List 
; Richard Walker ; 
{broken-address} Richard Walker ; 
{broken-address} Nicholas Armit 
 Sent: Wednesday, 22 November 2017, 20:35
 Subject: Re: [LU] game

 Berardi having a mare and maybe lonergan at fault for both goals?
On Wednesday, November 22, 2017, 3:31:37 PM EST, {broken-address} Nicholas 
Armit  wrote:

  TBF they are good
On Wednesday, November 22, 2017, 3:29:09 PM EST, {broken-address} Richard 
Walker  wrote:

 thanks Mick superb
although not sure I want to watch

  From: "Robinson, Mick" 
 To: Richard Walker ; Leeds List 
 Sent: Wednesday, 22 November 2017, 20:22
 Subject: RE: [LU] game

Good link on FB

https://www.facebook.com/groups/130553390907960/?fref=gs&hc_location=group



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Sent: 22 November 2017 20:13
To: Richard Walker ; Leeds List 
Subject: Re: [LU] game

[EXTERNAL]


2-0 down now - they're a yard quicker

  From: {broken-address} Richard Walker 

 To: Leeds List 
 Sent: Wednesday, 22 November 2017, 20:10
 Subject: [LU] game

watching on dodgy Periscope link
goal was poor - Vierra gave away , Cooper hacked man down on edge of box. Good 
freekick over wall.
this could be embarassing if we don't get a grip 
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Re: [LU] Atrocious

[Brendan Osborne]

Have you ever re-read your mails? See quoted bits below.


Don't make this about your spat with Rob Heath - Thirkers had a scatter gun 
approach and was trying to abuse everyone who answered him. You, as a mental 
health professional should not be defending a keyboard warrior, especially when 
he is taunting others with his "nasty thoughts" routine. I was fucking 
disgusted at that and so should you be.


I don't mind admitting that I've had mental health issues and we constantly 
hear of young people who take their own lives because of cyber bullying.


You would serve this list better if you dropped this and accepted that Thirkers 
behaviour was at best, unacceptable, and at worst, downright irresponsible.





I  cannot pretend to know what was behind Graham's anger.

followed by..

He loathed the treatment I was getting and finally struck out.






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Re: [LU] Atrocious

[Brendan Osborne]

I suggest that someone describing themselves as a legend needs far more 
professional help that those who've complained about you.


Or are you being ironic? If there was a scintilla of humour in your posts I 
might see the funny side of this, but you just come across as a bitter 
attention seeking old man.


How would you feel if you were actually having nasty thoughts about yourself 
and someone taunted you with this online? If you must "flame" someone, kindly 
use what's left of your brain to consider the real life implications of what 
you type.


Oh and don't bother having a go at me after this - I won't be reading your 
shite again.


From: Leedslist  on behalf of GRAHAM THIRKILL 

Sent: 02 November 2017 09:51
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Atrocious

"Quote from a tragic lister;_ ianjamesmur...@hotmil.com"Actually makes me feel 
like unsubscribing. It is a particular Yorkshire trait to pretend to enjoy 
misery and try to exacerbate it in others (especially in sport), but it's shit. 
I'm sure he's a nice guy and all, but I just delete his nonsense. It's annoying 
that my phone buzzes with constant shit though. Between him, MDM and Heath' s 
lovely rapartee I'm thinking "Do I need this shit interrupting my life?". If 
you want to wind people up, join a message board.
Maybe I'm just stressed with work atm and tolerance levels are low, but it's 
always irritated me. I've been on the list since 2000."---Ian 
James, my heart goes out to you, this is a heartbreaking story of a Leeds 
lister with severe deep depression. Don't worry it's very common with Leeds 
listers. No one, not even a Leeds lister should have to encounter this terrible 
illness. Are you having nasty thoughts about yourself.? Actually, one of the 
people you are whinging, moaning and crying about is a wonderful gentleman and 
a Professional Psychiarist. Of course I am referring to my dear Leeds born, 
Friend and "Real Leeds Fan", Dr Michael Benjamim. He will help you if reach out 
to him and say sorry for bitching about him. If you will take my advice I think 
you should contact Dr Benjamin sooner rather than later. You sound pretty 
desperate to me, with, stress with work, tolerance levels, irritation, phone 
buzzes, etc etc. Are you sure you are not having bad thoughts about yourse
 lf? The phone buzzes must be dreadful and the worst of your terrible problems 
for you, it's such a shame. How old are you???Anyhow ianjames just to recap 
on my two suggestions, contact the wonderful Dr, Michael Benjamin, he has spent 
a lifetime treating people who are in your condition, they were not ALL Leeds 
lister fans, I hasten to add. I would say contact him immediately. I think you 
are having nasty thoughts about yourself, My second suggestion is quite simple. 
Turn the fucking phone off.Thirkers (The Legend)PS. Ianjames this was written, 
in an effort, to try to cheer you up a little bit. I hope my email has helped 
to lessen the stress, tolerance levels, irritation, shit, phone buzzes etc etc 
etc etc etc somewhat. My goodness me you poor little lost lamb I do feel so 
sorry for you, especially when you mention, you have been on the list since the 
year 2000. What a faithful wonderful lister you are, this could probably, be 
why you are feeling desperate, like you are.Hang on i
 n there!!!




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Re: [LU] Atrocious

[Brendan Osborne]

You're definitely not alone in this. A try hard, looking for someone to bite, 
that's all. Sad really.



From: Leedslist  on behalf of {broken-address} 

Sent: 01 November 2017 09:20
To: GRAHAM THIRKILL
Cc: Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] Atrocious

I doubt I’m alone when wondering why this chump keeps posting this crap, but I 
content myself that he is of an age where he probably shits himself twice a 
week! That’s satisfying enough!

Sent from my iPad

> On 1 Nov 2017, at 07:57, GRAHAM THIRKILL  
> wrote:
>
> Nicholas Armit armitn at yahoo.com  quote I thought we did fine first half 
> and even though they had some pressure second they were nowhere near as good 
> as Sheffield Utd quote
>
> The stats say Leeds had only 40% to Derby's 60% of the play in the first 
> half, so you must have missed quite a bit of the game, unless it was those 
> rose tinted spectacles of yours..hahahahaha
> You experts have just three days to sort out the team selection, management 
> problens, player problems, tactics laundry, boot cleaning, sweeping the 
> stands, cutting the grass  and all the other problems you wannabee managers 
> have to discuss, hahahahaha
> Remember, it's only a game you have a rubbish team get used to it, you should 
> know better after all these years in the third and second division that you 
> are in now. What is it now, five games on the trot lost, it's only 15 points 
> plus another 3 on Saturday at Brentford maybe yiu are on a roll for a club 
> recordhahahahaha
> Anyhow leedslisters, I hope my message has cheered you all up. I can't 
> imagine how it feels for all of you.it must be terrible, FIVE OUT OF DEFEATS 
> IN THE SECOND DIVISION AFTER BEING ON TOP FOR 5 MINUTES
> Not so loud Cheers & Beers,Thirkers, (The Legend)
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Re: [LU] non LU......well, actually, that's the point......LU (ish)

[Brendan Osborne]

Mike,


I think the lists' confusion lies in the fact that you mentioned "searching 
through my past emails" on a number of occasions, whereas I certainly speak for 
myself when I say that I didn't see that evidenced in anything posted to the 
list.


I/We may have missed something or perhaps something was posted off list - 
which, if so, I feel should be just between you two and the list should be 
saved from the fallout.


Personally I'd prefer to have you both on the list as I'd miss the excitement!! 
😊



Ossie



From: Leedslist  on behalf of Michael Benjamin 

Sent: 26 October 2017 16:05
To: Graham White; Peter Castlehouse; ejwalsh
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org; Chris Nickson
Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

I was infuriated by an act I described at least twice.
But you decide.
Good luck & MOT--
Michael
-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
{broken-address} Graham White
Sent: 26 October 2017 16:41
To: Peter Castlehouse ; ejwalsh 
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org; Chris Nickson 
Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

I know both have been guilty in the past, but what got me last night was that, 
as far as I could see, there was absolutely no provocation from Rob Heath and 
yet Dr. Benjamin came steaming straight in with literally insane ranting.

Cheers


Graham White


On Thursday, 26 October 2017, 13:00:00 CEST, ejwalsh  
wrote:

 I voted yes only because I can show my 12 year old son that some adults will 
forever behave as if they are children.
Ed
> On 26 Oct 2017, at 11:07, Peter Castlehouse  wrote:
>
> If you keep changing your name, we might have to get you to re-subscribe 
> too... Big Terry Boocock-Cameron huh?
> Shall we have a referendum on this folks?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of
> John Boocock
> Sent: 26 October 2017 20:55
> To: Chris Nickson 
> Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU
> (ish)
>
> It will only be binding after I've made a decision but of course I'll
> let you all vote on that after implementation has occurred. (If I'm
> still here of course)
>
> Big Terry
>
>
> On 26/10/2017 10:49, Chris Nickson wrote:
>> Will it be a binding referendum?
>> And if they want to resub, who will be in charge of negotiations?
>> Will there be a transition period?
>>
>>
>>
>> On 26 October 2017 at 10:44, John Boocock > > wrote:
>>
>>Bloody hell I've only just seen all this because I too was playing
>>Bridge (some of this is true)
>>
>>I think we should have a list referendum as to whether we should
>>re sub them.
>>
>>Anyone able to set up a poll site Dr Mike Yes  / No, Rob Heath Yes
>>/ No?
>>
>>Theresa Boocock-Cameron Esq
>>
>>
>>
>>On 26/10/2017 08:03, Peter Castlehouse wrote:
>>
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>>make the mighty decision whether to allow them back on.
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Re: [LU] non LU......well, actually, that's the point......LU (ish)

[Brendan Osborne]

I've just noticed the "Flame Wars 'R Us" in the email trailers 😊



From: Leedslist  on behalf of Nigel Sykes 

Sent: 26 October 2017 15:11
To: Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

Ha!  You're right!  It wasn't even Rob's joke about Israel!

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
{broken-address} Nicholas Armit
Sent: 26 October 2017 15:53
To: {broken-address} Nicholas Armit; Peter Castlehouse; ejwalsh; Graham White; 
{broken-address} Graham White; Mark
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org; Chris Nickson
Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

 Matt was the instigator (harmlessly no doubt) Dr Mike responded to his email I 
believe:
|-Original Message-
> |From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of
> |Matt Anderson
> |Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 11:30 AM
> |To: Rob Heath 
> |Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> |Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the
> |point..LU (ish)
> |
> |Just noticed big order coming in from Israel

On Thursday, October 26, 2017, 10:50:36 AM EDT, Mark 
 wrote:

 Agree, I didn't notice anything provocative from Rob. I think the "dr" was in 
the wrong this time.

Mark
El Presidente Wisconsin Whites
Leeds United
Chicago Fire

From: Leedslist  on behalf of {broken-address} 
Nicholas Armit 
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 9:05:29 AM
To: Peter Castlehouse; ejwalsh; Graham White; {broken-address} Graham White
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org; Chris Nickson
Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

Looked to me like Mike misread a post from someone else as coming from Rob. In 
that case I feel Rob deserves an apology.
Nick
On Thursday, October 26, 2017, 9:42:28 AM EDT, {broken-address} Graham 
White  wrote:

 I know both have been guilty in the past, but what got me last night was that, 
as far as I could see, there was absolutely no provocation from Rob Heath and 
yet Dr. Benjamin came steaming straight in with literally insane ranting.

Cheers


Graham White


On Thursday, 26 October 2017, 13:00:00 CEST, ejwalsh  
wrote:

 I voted yes only because I can show my 12 year old son that some adults will 
forever behave as if they are children.
Ed
> On 26 Oct 2017, at 11:07, Peter Castlehouse  wrote:
>
> If you keep changing your name, we might have to get you to re-subscribe 
> too... Big Terry Boocock-Cameron huh?
> Shall we have a referendum on this folks?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of
> John Boocock
> Sent: 26 October 2017 20:55
> To: Chris Nickson 
> Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU
> (ish)
>
> It will only be binding after I've made a decision but of course I'll
> let you all vote on that after implementation has occurred. (If I'm
> still here of course)
>
> Big Terry
>
>
> On 26/10/2017 10:49, Chris Nickson wrote:
>> Will it be a binding referendum?
>> And if they want to resub, who will be in charge of negotiations?
>> Will there be a transition period?
>>
>>
>>
>> On 26 October 2017 at 10:44, John Boocock > > wrote:
>>
>>Bloody hell I've only just seen all this because I too was playing
>>Bridge (some of this is true)
>>
>>I think we should have a list referendum as to whether we should
>>re sub them.
>>
>>Anyone able to set up a poll site Dr Mike Yes  / No, Rob Heath Yes
>>/ No?
>>
>>Theresa Boocock-Cameron Esq
>>
>>
>>
>>On 26/10/2017 08:03, Peter Castlehouse wrote:
>>
>>I didn’t ‘throw them off the list’… I simply clicked their
>>unsubscribe button.  They have the opportunity to
>>re-subscribe at their leisure, as was advised, and Betty can
>>make the mighty decision whether to allow them back on.
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Re: [LU] Another big call

[Brendan Osborne]

Working so far! 1-0 Saiz!


MOT


Ossie



From: Leedslist  on behalf of nat...@sky.com 

Sent: 21 October 2017 13:47
To: Leeds List
Subject: [LU] Another big call

TC has made another big call (after dropping Felix last time) and has left out 
Pontus . Alioski has also been recalled and so has Viera in a 3 man midfield
Team- Lonergan, Ayling, Pennington, Cooper, Berardi, Phillips, O'Kane, Vieira, 
Saiz, Lasogga, Alioski.Wiedwald, Anita, Jansson, Roofe, Sacko, Hernandez, Grot.
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Re: [LU] totally non LU - scum of the earth

[Brendan Osborne]

Dave,


So sorry to hear that - the death of a child is such a life changing event, and 
to have to put up with the trauma of such mindless vandalism on top of that, is 
challenging to say the least.


Leeds family love to you all,



Ossie


From: Leedslist  on behalf of nat...@sky.com 

Sent: 26 July 2017 21:12
To: Leeds List
Subject: [LU] totally non LU - scum of the earth

This post is nothing at all to do with LUFC or football but I am so angry and 
upset I just need to vent a bit - so feel free to delete without reading
My 6 year old neice, Lexi,  died last year after a long and painful terminal 
illness. As you can imagine that is pretty upsetting and even more so for her 
mum (Emma) Dad  and siblings
Anyway I got home from a great night at cubs tonight to find my wife a bit upset
 Emma had been to Lexis grave and caught a lad and his mates (they got away) 
destroying the grave, they have smashed the ornaments, broken flowers and even 
worse broken a small pink money box into which  her 10 year old sister Ellie 
puts one pence each time she visits, and they nicked the money - all 88pence of 
it.
Somehow Emma restrained both herself and the kid concerned - how she did not 
batter him I am not sure, till police came
The kid is 11 and his mates the same age - police put him back of the van and 
tried to put the fear of god up him - the kid was hysterical, they said they 
would do what they could but given his age etc
Emma is heartbroken as you can imagine - the cross has been ripped from the 
grave and everything trashed - and wants to 'dig Lexi up and bring her home'
I know there is nothing anyone can say or do but I am so angry and upset words 
fail me and I just needed to vent a bit
It makes you despair for humanity - they are old enough to know and understand 
what they were doing for 'fun' and that it was so obviously the grave of a 
little girl
Myself and my wife are going to shops tomorrow and will buy what we can to 
replace the broken stuff but it will not be the same
Sorry to put this on any of you (if you have read this far)
Like I say scum of the earth
Dave

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Re: [LU] Fwd: None LU: Andy Murray World Number one (;-))

[Brendan McWilliams]

*Missing a smiley mischievous emoticon there, so please don't flame me to 
death. ;-/

From: Brendan McWilliams 
Sent: Monday, June 5, 2017 4:20:32 PM
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Fwd: None LU: Andy Murray World Number one (;-))

Not really a fan of Tennis but I always support Andy Murray, precisely because 
he's Scottish, and always wanted Henman to win.

Clearly lots of English have taken against Murray for his _possibly_ wanting 
Scottish independence.

However I want Federer to win every match as he's been the most stylish and 
graceful player I can remember.

BMW

PS I reserve my anyone-but-the-english primarily for the soccer and in 
particular the rugby.




From: Leedslist  on behalf of Rob Heath 

Sent: Monday, June 5, 2017 4:11:16 PM
To: Graham Thirkill
Cc: Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] Fwd: None LU: Andy Murray World Number one (;-))

I did indeed love good old "Come on" Tim. Winning is not everything in
sport, although it's amazing how many people watch or play sport yet don't
know that.

P.s. No.
On 5 Jun 2017 21:57, "Graham Thirkill" 
wrote:

> Maybe because he’s a winner and world number one…….each to their own
> Rob….Maybe, then, you drooled over, never-one-owt, Tim Henman….. he had
> charisma but little else IMHHO……..
>
> Cheers and Beers
> Thirkers
>
> PS….Did you visit me in Whitby at my business, about 15 years ago, with
> your son If so,
> I hope he still has the John Charles signed programme I have gave
> him…. Sorry if I’m wrong,
> but it was a long time ago, but a few people used to come to see me in
> Whitby…..
>
>
> Rob Heath Posted;_
>
> You're going to think I'm being deliberately contrary, but I have to say
> that I cannot warm to Murray.
>
> I used to despise him with a passionafter he single handedly won
> us the Davis Cup I tried hard to like him, but I just can't.
>
> For some reason, style is SO important in tennis. Murray is undoubtedly a
> impressively effective player who yes does play some great shots, and yes
> he's a fantastic competitor but he's got none of the style or charisma of,
> as a perfect example, these two fabulous players who are on court
> nowMonfils and Wawrinka.
> On 5 Jun 2017 20:52, "Graham Thirkill" 
> wrote:
>
>> Just watched World "Number One" Andy Murray cruise through to the last
>> eight in the French open, three sets to nil. I remember a few years ago I
>> seemed to be the only Andy Murray fan on this list. I mentioned his name
>> and got blasted by a few on here.
>> Not one other lister had a good word to say about him, I distinctly
>> remember that……although that didn’t really surprise me. Seeing as he has
>> won just about everything and being knighted as well, I suppose some of you
>> will dislike him even more……It is because he’s a winner or a Scot or that
>> he’s both…Just wondered???
>> Have a good Monday gents…..
>> Cheers and Beers
>> Thirkers\098/
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Re: [LU] Fwd: None LU: Andy Murray World Number one (;-))

[Brendan McWilliams]

Not really a fan of Tennis but I always support Andy Murray, precisely because 
he's Scottish, and always wanted Henman to win.

Clearly lots of English have taken against Murray for his _possibly_ wanting 
Scottish independence.

However I want Federer to win every match as he's been the most stylish and 
graceful player I can remember.

BMW

PS I reserve my anyone-but-the-english primarily for the soccer and in 
particular the rugby.




From: Leedslist  on behalf of Rob Heath 

Sent: Monday, June 5, 2017 4:11:16 PM
To: Graham Thirkill
Cc: Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] Fwd: None LU: Andy Murray World Number one (;-))

I did indeed love good old "Come on" Tim. Winning is not everything in
sport, although it's amazing how many people watch or play sport yet don't
know that.

P.s. No.
On 5 Jun 2017 21:57, "Graham Thirkill" 
wrote:

> Maybe because he’s a winner and world number one…….each to their own
> Rob….Maybe, then, you drooled over, never-one-owt, Tim Henman….. he had
> charisma but little else IMHHO……..
>
> Cheers and Beers
> Thirkers
>
> PS….Did you visit me in Whitby at my business, about 15 years ago, with
> your son If so,
> I hope he still has the John Charles signed programme I have gave
> him…. Sorry if I’m wrong,
> but it was a long time ago, but a few people used to come to see me in
> Whitby…..
>
>
> Rob Heath Posted;_
>
> You're going to think I'm being deliberately contrary, but I have to say
> that I cannot warm to Murray.
>
> I used to despise him with a passionafter he single handedly won
> us the Davis Cup I tried hard to like him, but I just can't.
>
> For some reason, style is SO important in tennis. Murray is undoubtedly a
> impressively effective player who yes does play some great shots, and yes
> he's a fantastic competitor but he's got none of the style or charisma of,
> as a perfect example, these two fabulous players who are on court
> nowMonfils and Wawrinka.
> On 5 Jun 2017 20:52, "Graham Thirkill" 
> wrote:
>
>> Just watched World "Number One" Andy Murray cruise through to the last
>> eight in the French open, three sets to nil. I remember a few years ago I
>> seemed to be the only Andy Murray fan on this list. I mentioned his name
>> and got blasted by a few on here.
>> Not one other lister had a good word to say about him, I distinctly
>> remember that……although that didn’t really surprise me. Seeing as he has
>> won just about everything and being knighted as well, I suppose some of you
>> will dislike him even more……It is because he’s a winner or a Scot or that
>> he’s both…Just wondered???
>> Have a good Monday gents…..
>> Cheers and Beers
>> Thirkers\098/
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Re: [LU] (Only very slightly LU) Shameless plug

[Brendan McWilliams]

Wow, Sean - most impressed! What a list this is!


From: Leedslist  on behalf of Damian Walsh 

Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 6:50:46 PM
To: leedslist
Subject: Re: [LU] (Only very slightly LU) Shameless plug

Are your books available from anyone other than Amazon?

Curmudgeonly, Damian

On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 2:36 PM, {broken-address} <
seanscr...@aol.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:

> You can make that at least four published authors on the list:
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Not-Good-Day-Die-Operation/dp/
> 0425207870/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1488288764&sr=1-1&
> keywords=not+a+good+day+to+die+the+untold+story+of+operation+anaconda
>
>
> and
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Relentless-Strike-History-Special-Operations/dp/
> 1250014549/ref=pd_sim_14_2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=
> VRGNF9ZTTD9D0C19XSJJ
>
>
> Well done, Rob.
>
>
> Cheers!
>
>
> Sean
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Brendan McWilliams 
> To: leedslist 
> Sent: Tue, Feb 28, 2017 3:26 am
> Subject: Re: [LU] (Only very slightly LU) Shameless plug
>
> Congratulations Rob - writing a book is impressive enough, getting someone
> to take a punt on it and publish, that's really impressive.
>
>
> That must be 3 published authors on the list - Dr Mike, Chris, and now Rob?
>
>
> BMW
>
>
> 
> From: Leedslist  on behalf of Brendan
> Osborne 
> Sent: 28 February 2017 00:19
> To: Rob Heath; leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] (Only very slightly LU) Shameless plug
>
> Congrats Rob - well done!!
>
>
> 
> From: Leedslist  on behalf of Rob Heath <
> rhe...@hkis.edu.hk>
> Sent: 28 February 2017 00:07
> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: [LU] (Only very slightly LU) Shameless plug
>
> My first novel has been released today:
> https://www.amazon.co.uk/Tangerine-Dream-Rob-Heath/dp/
> 1786292564/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1488240284&sr=8-1&
> keywords=a+tangerine+dream+by+rob+heath
>
> A Tangerine Dream: Amazon.co.uk: Rob Heath: 9781786292568: Books<
> https://www.amazon.co.uk/Tangerine-Dream-Rob-Heath/
> dp/1786292564/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1488240284&sr=8-1&
> keywords=a+tangerine+dream+by+rob+heath>
> www.amazon.co.uk<http://www.amazon.co.uk>
> Buy A Tangerine Dream by Rob Heath (ISBN: 9781786292568) from Amazon's
> Book Store. Free UK delivery on eligible orders.
>
>
>
>
> It has a few Leeds United bits in it, but I'm sure you'll all want to buy
> it anyway!
>
> It has been described by one critic (OK, my wife) as "a rattling good
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Re: [LU] (Only very slightly LU) Shameless plug

[Brendan McWilliams]

Congratulations Rob - writing a book is impressive enough, getting someone to 
take a punt on it and publish, that's really impressive.


That must be 3 published authors on the list - Dr Mike, Chris, and now Rob?


BMW



From: Leedslist  on behalf of Brendan Osborne 

Sent: 28 February 2017 00:19
To: Rob Heath; leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] (Only very slightly LU) Shameless plug

Congrats Rob - well done!!



From: Leedslist  on behalf of Rob Heath 

Sent: 28 February 2017 00:07
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: [LU] (Only very slightly LU) Shameless plug

My first novel has been released today:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Tangerine-Dream-Rob-Heath/dp/1786292564/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1488240284&sr=8-1&keywords=a+tangerine+dream+by+rob+heath

A Tangerine Dream: Amazon.co.uk: Rob Heath: 9781786292568: 
Books<https://www.amazon.co.uk/Tangerine-Dream-Rob-Heath/dp/1786292564/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1488240284&sr=8-1&keywords=a+tangerine+dream+by+rob+heath>
www.amazon.co.uk
Buy A Tangerine Dream by Rob Heath (ISBN: 9781786292568) from Amazon's Book 
Store. Free UK delivery on eligible orders.




It has a few Leeds United bits in it, but I'm sure you'll all want to buy
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It has been described by one critic (OK, my wife) as "a rattling good read!"
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Re: [LU] (Only very slightly LU) Shameless plug

[Brendan Osborne]

Congrats Rob - well done!!



From: Leedslist  on behalf of Rob Heath 

Sent: 28 February 2017 00:07
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: [LU] (Only very slightly LU) Shameless plug

My first novel has been released today:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Tangerine-Dream-Rob-Heath/dp/1786292564/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1488240284&sr=8-1&keywords=a+tangerine+dream+by+rob+heath

It has a few Leeds United bits in it, but I'm sure you'll all want to buy
it anyway!

It has been described by one critic (OK, my wife) as "a rattling good read!"
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Re: [LU] Saturday

[Brendan Osborne]

Family get-together tonight so there'll be a few scoops involved!!


I'll be watching from my couch at home (Laytown Ireland), probably nursing a 
hangover, definitely eating a bacon sandwich or two!


Ossie



From: Leedslist  on behalf of Rob Heath 

Sent: 24 February 2017 10:06
To: Peter Castlehouse
Cc: Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] Saturday

Indeed..I'll be watching it on a livestream here in Hong Kong!

On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 5:36 PM, Peter Castlehouse 
wrote:

> Hey!  I can be in the pub at my 10am and not leave dusty NSW, and have 13
> hours on the piss before kick-off!   So by all means get the trolley out,
> stock it well, and toast at least one shout to ALL the ex-pats everywhere
> on the list and everywhere around the world!
> Cheers buddy!
> 2-2
> OzPete
>
> From: John Boocock [mailto:j...@boocock.net]
> Sent: Friday, 24 February 2017 8:31 PM
> To: Richard Walker ; Leeds List <
> leedslist@gn.apc.org>; Peter Castlehouse 
> Subject: RE: [LU] Saturday
>
> Get yersen home Pete then yer can be in the pub at 10am :-)
> Shall we get the drinks trolley out?
> Betty
> Sent from the North
> On 24 Feb 2017 09:26, Peter Castlehouse  dubca...@iinet.net.au> > wrote:
> Don't forget the armchair listers from darn under, who by Satdi 11pm kick
> off our time (on the cable telly) are pissed as farts and thenceforward
> vociferously abusing the telly, the cat, the missus and the drunks walking
> down the street
>
> OzPete
>
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Re: [LU] Monk charged? Outrageous.

[Brendan Osborne]

Agreed that Gary stepped out of his technical area and he will probably get a 
ban. Wagner has been charged on two counts however - the encroachment on the 
pitch to celebrate the goal and the subsequent loss of control. Hopefully his 
ban will be double whatever is doled out to Monk.


Whatever his motives, Monks actions, and what followed thereafter, did show a 
massive spirit and unity between players and management, and I think will only 
serve to galvanise that spirit, which is probably the only positive here.


Ossie



From: Leedslist  on behalf of {broken-address} 
Richard Walker 
Sent: 08 February 2017 12:16
To: Richard Naef; 'leeds list (leedslist@gn.apc.org)'
Subject: Re: [LU] Monk charged? Outrageous.

I think Monk deserves the ban. He started it. Wagner's celebration was wanky 
but he didn't run into Gary's technical area and was not gesturing to him or 
shouting the score.
I think Monk is a bit of a twat.

  From: Richard Naef 
 To: "'leeds list (leedslist@gn.apc.org)'" 
 Sent: Wednesday, 8 February 2017, 10:58
 Subject: Re: [LU] Monk charged? Outrageous.

Yeah me too, BUT we don't have thousands of cameras pointing at us.  I think it 
was a mistake in the heat of the moment on his part and he'll get a ban.

Good to see HT have banned the lowlife with the flag, although the cheering 
Neanderthals prancing around it seem to have got off.

ttfn

Richard

If you watch the footage that some Udder made from the stand, you can see that 
Monk simply strolled casually into Wanger's path as the latter galumphed back 
up the pitch after his outrageous pitch invasion. Monk made exactly the same 
move that I make 10 times a day here in Hong Kong when I see people walking 
along with their heads stuck in their mobiles...nothing more.
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[LU] Huddersfield v Brighton

[Brendan Osborne]

If it stays like this (Hudds 3-1 up at ht)  we'll be 6 points off top spot and 
5 behind second.

This season has been amazing so far

#MOT all.

Ossie ( watching from a pub in Luton)

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Re: [LU] Midfield

[Brendan Osborne]

I think he picked a team to blood a few youngsters with the hope that they 
would win and if it was a draw, I suspect he'd have played the same team in the 
replay. I don't think winning the FA cup is a realistic target for us, 
nevertheless I did want us to win and progress, and losing to Sutton is 
embarrassing.


Based on the team he picked, I have to imagine that Monk wasn't too arsed if we 
lost though.


He took 100% responsibility in the after match interview, so maybe he should 
buy those tickets!!



From: Richard Walker 
Sent: 29 January 2017 16:33
To: Brendan Osborne
Cc: David Woolmer; Matt Anderson; leeds list (leedslist@gn.apc.org)
Subject: Re: [LU] Midfield

So are you saying you think he picked a team to lose ?

Cos if that's the case I'd get him to buy every one of those traveling fans 
their ticket for the next match.



> On 29 Jan 2017, at 16:14, Brendan Osborne  wrote:
>
> I think there were several factors influencing Monks selection today. 
> Brighton and Newcastle went out of the cup yesterday so I think he probably 
> thought that we'd be better off without the distraction. Rumours that Mowatt 
> was sold without his knowledge. so maybe he wanted to send a message to MC. 
> Who knows?
>
>
> Feel sorry for the fans who attended having to spend their hard earned cash 
> to watch us capitulate like that.
>
>
> Fortunately we still have a lot to play for and if we go up this season, I'll 
> forgive him for today!
>
>
> MOT
>
>
> Ossie
>
>
> 
> From: Leedslist  on behalf of David Woolmer 
> 
> Sent: 29 January 2017 16:04
> To: Matt Anderson
> Cc: leeds list (leedslist@gn.apc.org)
> Subject: Re: [LU] Midfield
>
> Depends if you actually want to win...
>
>
>
>> On 29 Jan 2017, at 16:52, Matt Anderson  wrote:
>>
>> Also when being outfought you don't bring sako on
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On 29 Jan 2017, at 15:48, Matt Anderson  wrote:
>>>
>>> The fact that grimes is one of the worst footballers I have seen in a leeds 
>>> shirt it's not his fault today!
>>>
>>> Wtf was monk thinking? Hardened non league cloggers v pampered 20 year 
>>> olds. This would happen 8/10 times if they played
>>>
>>> I'm very pissed off about this. My phone is getting several  texts per 
>>> minute
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On 29 Jan 2017, at 15:34, Richard Naef  
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Worse than V Histon
>>>>
>>>> ttfn
>>>>
>>>> Richard
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Matt 
>>>> Anderson
>>>> Sent: 29 January 2017 15:14
>>>> To: Leeds List 
>>>> Subject: [LU] Midfield
>>>>
>>>> Where is it?
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [LU] Midfield

[Brendan Osborne]

I think there were several factors influencing Monks selection today. Brighton 
and Newcastle went out of the cup yesterday so I think he probably thought that 
we'd be better off without the distraction. Rumours that Mowatt was sold 
without his knowledge. so maybe he wanted to send a message to MC. Who knows?


Feel sorry for the fans who attended having to spend their hard earned cash to 
watch us capitulate like that.


Fortunately we still have a lot to play for and if we go up this season, I'll 
forgive him for today!


MOT


Ossie



From: Leedslist  on behalf of David Woolmer 

Sent: 29 January 2017 16:04
To: Matt Anderson
Cc: leeds list (leedslist@gn.apc.org)
Subject: Re: [LU] Midfield

Depends if you actually want to win...



> On 29 Jan 2017, at 16:52, Matt Anderson  wrote:
>
> Also when being outfought you don't bring sako on
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 29 Jan 2017, at 15:48, Matt Anderson  wrote:
>>
>> The fact that grimes is one of the worst footballers I have seen in a leeds 
>> shirt it's not his fault today!
>>
>> Wtf was monk thinking? Hardened non league cloggers v pampered 20 year olds. 
>> This would happen 8/10 times if they played
>>
>> I'm very pissed off about this. My phone is getting several  texts per minute
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On 29 Jan 2017, at 15:34, Richard Naef  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Worse than V Histon
>>>
>>> ttfn
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Matt 
>>> Anderson
>>> Sent: 29 January 2017 15:14
>>> To: Leeds List 
>>> Subject: [LU] Midfield
>>>
>>> Where is it?
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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[LU] FA CUP

[Brendan Osborne]

Sutton in the next round - they beat Wimbledon away 3-1 tonight.



MOT



Ossie
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Re: [LU] Dallas on for Roofe

[Brendan Osborne]

Johnson sent off. He's Leeds and he knows he is.

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ smartphone

 John Boocock wrote 



Sent from the North
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Re: [LU] Derby

[Brendan Osborne]

We just did. :-)

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ smartphone

 John Boocock wrote 

   If we could just slot one of these chances...

   Sent from the North
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Re: [LU] Am I wrong to hope the daily star is correct?

[Brendan Osborne]

If they put it off until a time when Pontus is available again, that would be 
better no? [😊]



Ossie



From: Leedslist  on behalf of nat...@sky.com 

Sent: 11 January 2017 11:07
To: Leeds List
Subject: [LU] Am I wrong to hope the daily star is correct?

Was in Tesco earlier and saw the frontpage headline in the Daily Star"white out 
- snow to put football matches at risk this weekend" - underneath was a picture 
of a snowman in a Leeds scarf
Brilliant I thought, the game will be off, result
I am unable to go, thanks to sky and their Friday night football nonsense, got 
a  'family do' that I can't get out of !
Was gutted when I saw the weather forecast for Leeds is actually all day 
sunshine on Friday !
Is it wrong and selfish to want the game postponed just because I cannot go 
(but would most likely be OK for re-arranged game ) ?

Dave
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Re: [LU] Season's Greetings

[Brendan Osborne]

Merry Christmas from Laytown, Ireland.


In a generally disastrous year, the one shining light has been the optimism 
that the Mighty Whites have given us this season.


Roll on 2017!



Ossie [😊]



From: Leedslist  on behalf of Roy Blackwell 

Sent: 24 December 2016 12:43
To: Errand Fivefold
Cc: Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] Season's Greetings

Merry Christmas from Sunny Shipley

Roy

On 24 Dec 2016 12:36,  wrote:

> Happy Christmas from Dishforth,
>
> Hoping you all have a Great Christmas,
>
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Verner
>
> Sent from my Windows 10 phone
>
> From: Ian Murray
> Sent: 24 December 2016 11:48
> To: Graham Palmer; Scott1cairns1
> Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] Season's Greetings
>
> Merry Christmas from Byron Bay!
>
> MOT
>
>
>
> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
>
>
>  Original message 
> From: Graham Palmer 
> Date: 24/12/2016 22:13 (GMT+10:00)
> To: Scott1cairns1 
> Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] Season's Greetings
>
> Merry Christmas from Nottingham, and for once it looks fairly promising
> for a happy new year. Let's hope we hang onto our players, and perhaps add
> to the squad with some class in January.
> MOT
> Graham
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On 24 Dec 2016, at 11:05, Scott1cairns1  wrote:
> >
> > Merry  Christmas to you miserable sods all. I genuinely think there is a
> real reason for hope and
> > optimism. Which we haven't had for a long ling time.
> > Best regards,Scott.
> >
> >> On 24 Dec 2016, at 08:57, Simon McNally  wrote:
> >>
> >> And from me too.
> >>
> >> Promotion year for the Whites!
> >>
> >> Simon
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On 24 Dec 2016, at 08:04, John Boocock  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Listers one and all,
> >>>
> >>> Best wishes for the festive season from all at Betty Towers. Here's
> hoping for a points filled new year for all Leeds fans wherever you may be.
> >>>
> >>> Marching On Together!
> >>>
> >>> Betty
> >>>
> >>> (Cue festive jingly bells and the sound of an international internet
> chorus of "Leeds, Leeds, Leeds")
> >>>
> >>> Sent from Robin Hood's Bay on the windswept Yorkshire coast.
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Re: [LU] Liverpool 2 Leeds 0

[Brendan McWilliams]

Hi all,


from my armchair in foreign climes:

- Silvestri should have came out, and when he does come out take everything 
with him as a proper keeper should. The fact is he lacks a pair so hard to say 
if he's a better option than Green, Green by a whisker probably.

- Sacko has got worse as the season has gone on,

- sorry, Doukara is still terrible even with renewed desire these days,

- i can't for the life of me understand the abuse Wood gets. I mean, if he got 
those goals AND did the rest, he wouldn't still be with us now would he?

- but no matter how limited Wood is, he's light years ahead of Becchio, he got 
the odd goal but he was shockingly bad.

- my man Eunan I expect to shine with Bridcutt alongside him, he's been 
inconsistent...


The squad loanees are: Hernandez, Bartley, Jannsoon (automatic purchase on 20 
appearances), Grimes and Sacko right?


Stating the bleeding obvious but of that lot: Bartley & Jansson obviously, 
question mark over Hernandez, and so far a no for Grimes and Sacko.


Regards,


BMW


PS why is the list server messing around with the sender names?






From: Leedslist  on behalf of Jeremy Thorpe 

Sent: 30 November 2016 16:35
To: '{broken-address} Richard Walker'; 'John Boocock'
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Liverpool 2 Leeds 0

I said the first time I saw him preseason at Peterborough, Sacko is Carton
Palmer on Red Bull. He has a worse first touch than our old mate Becchio and
I haven't seen him hit the target once yet.
However in his defence he does work exceptionally hard when tracking back to
help his full back.

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{broken-address} Richard Walker
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 21:31
To: John Boocock
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Liverpool 2 Leeds 0

Sacko - is a sack of shit.


> On 29 Nov 2016, at 21:26, John Boocock  wrote:
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> Woodburn 80 mins
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Re: [LU] Liverpool 2 Leeds 0

[Brendan Osborne]

Hernandez too



From: Leedslist  on behalf of {broken-address} 
Nicholas Armit 
Sent: 29 November 2016 22:32
To: Richard Naef
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Liverpool 2 Leeds 0

Who was injured? Jannsen?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 29, 2016, at 5:01 PM, Richard Naef  
> wrote:
>
> I'm actually a bit disappointed, we had some clear chances and should have
> taken them, but the reality check our 3 best players not available and lost
> 2 players to injury, so Monk's options were limited.
>
> ttfn
>
> Richard
>
>
>> -Original Message-
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>> Scott1cairns1
>> Sent: 29 November 2016 21:43
>> To: John Boocock
>> Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
>> Subject: Re: [LU] Liverpool 1 Leeds 0
>>
>> Overall proud of that performance.
>>
>> Best regards,Scott.
>>
>>> On 29 Nov 2016, at 21:24, John Boocock  wrote:
>>>
>>> Origi 75 mins poached goal no less!
>>>
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Re: [LU] fans

[Brendan Osborne]

Totally agree,  goosebumps here.

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ smartphone

 Richard Naef wrote 

I think we're playing well and Roofe has looked the most dangerous striker
on the pitch.  But what isn't arguable is that Our fans are winning!



ttfn



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Re: [LU] Norwich

[Brendan Osborne]

I stand corrected - it was the 2nd half after all! [😊]


Apparently Silvestri now holds the record for the only Leeds United keeper ever 
to save 3 in a penalty shootout!




Ossie



From: Richard Naef 
Sent: 26 October 2016 09:14
To: 'Brendan Osborne'; 'Leeds List'; nat...@sky.com
Subject: RE: [LU] Norwich

Oi Brendan, if Dave says it was 2nd half equaliser - IT WAS A SECOND HALD 
EQUALISER| ;)

ttfn

Richard



> -Original Message-
> From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Brendan
> Osborne
> Sent: 26 October 2016 07:18
> To: Leeds List; nat...@sky.com
> Subject: Re: [LU] Norwich
>
> Thanks for a great report - just one crow to pluck with you. It was 1-1 at 
> half
> time - we equalised in the 43rd minute. [😊]
>
>
>
> Ossie
>
>
> 
> From: Leedslist  on behalf of
> nat...@sky.com 
> Sent: 25 October 2016 23:49
> To: Leeds List
> Subject: [LU] Norwich
>
> Wow - this is what football is all about, not the greatest game but when
> Vierra scored with that penalty - amazingThe fact that I had to pay £18 in a
> taxi home to more than offset the saving on the cheap ticket - who cares
> ?fact that i had to share my train with both Craggy AND dick with a stick* -
> who cares, even their nonsense could not wipe the smile off my face"We're
> Leeds and we're proud of it", we all sang as the final whistle after extra 
> time
> sounded, and we meant it - this was a team and performance to be proud
> ofThe ticket queues outside the ground showed how good an idea the cheap
> tickets were, and all the open stands were full (fair play to Norwich who sold
> 2k for this game - a great turn out)I was disappointed as i worked out the
> team and realised that only Bartley was a genuine first teamer, with Roofe
> and Vieira both playing recently due to injury and for much of the first half,
> we looked to be a second string team, hastily thrown together (when will
> managers realise Mowatt is NOT a winger and certainly not a RIGHT sided
> one ?) as Norwich took the game to us and threatened to run away with it,
> some desperate defending and some good saves from Silvestri saving us
> from a hammering. Their goal when it came was well worked and well
> deserved as they tore us apart and slotted homeWe did think we had
> equalised but Bartley was booked for 'scoring' with his handSo 0 1 at half
> time and a thrashing on the cards.
> Second half we upped the tempo and got some fluidity going and got a real
> foothold in the  game. It was no surprise when we equalised  Doukara doing
> well and pulling the ball back to Antonsson who smashed home.We could
> and should have won it but Mowatt could not get the right touch that would
> have put it into an empty net, doukara also had a great header well saved.
> We put on Sakho who caused them all sorts of problems and Wood who had
> a stormer.Unfortunately we also brought on Philips which meant we had
> used all 3 subs so when Coyle could not come out for extra time we were
> down to ten men! (The FA cup is allowing 4 subs in this situation?)Our bottle
> had gone and we approached extra time down to ten with the sole purpose
> of hanging on for pens, but this went wrong as they beat our defence and
> headed home (looked offside from my seat and Silvestri got booked for
> arguing)At that point I was expecting 4 1 and was trying to work out if it was
> worth leaving if they scored again to make sure I could get home.But this
> current lot are made of sterner stuff and Sakho broke down the left and had
> a shot that the keeper could only parry to the feet of the onrushing Chris
> Wood who hit home ( a typical centre forward goal - brilliant stuff) and so to
> pensThankfully taken at our end They scored and so did Wood, then they
> missed and Roofe hit home - 2 1 with us with one in hand but Philips had his
> saved and then Grimes (poor throughout) approached his - we were still in
> the driving seat but as with most left footers at pens, it just did not look
> right and he blasted miles over. SO suddenly it was 2 2 and the momentum
> seemed to have shifted, but Silvestri saved and it was left to Ronaldo Vieira
> to step up and striker the winning penalty - pandemonium on the field and
> in the stands and a brilliant night came to a close All the irregular fans
> making their first (first for a while) appearance at ER went home happy and
> singing into the night Nights like this just make it all worthwhile - hoping 
> for
> a good draw tomorrow
> Dave* if you know them you know what i mean
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Re: [LU] Norwich

[Brendan Osborne]

Thanks for a great report - just one crow to pluck with you. It was 1-1 at half 
time - we equalised in the 43rd minute. [😊]



Ossie



From: Leedslist  on behalf of nat...@sky.com 

Sent: 25 October 2016 23:49
To: Leeds List
Subject: [LU] Norwich

Wow - this is what football is all about, not the greatest game but when Vierra 
scored with that penalty - amazingThe fact that I had to pay £18 in a taxi home 
to more than offset the saving on the cheap ticket - who cares ?fact that i had 
to share my train with both Craggy AND dick with a stick* - who cares, even 
their nonsense could not wipe the smile off my face"We're Leeds and we're proud 
of it", we all sang as the final whistle after extra time sounded, and we meant 
it - this was a team and performance to be proud ofThe ticket queues outside 
the ground showed how good an idea the cheap tickets were, and all the open 
stands were full (fair play to Norwich who sold 2k for this game - a great turn 
out)I was disappointed as i worked out the team and realised that only Bartley 
was a genuine first teamer, with Roofe and Vieira both playing recently due to 
injury and for much of the first half, we looked to be a second string team, 
hastily thrown together (when will managers realise Mowatt is NOT a winger and 
certainly not a RIGHT sided one ?) as Norwich took the game to us and 
threatened to run away with it, some desperate defending and some good saves 
from Silvestri saving us from a hammering. Their goal when it came was well 
worked and well deserved as they tore us apart and slotted homeWe did think we 
had equalised but Bartley was booked for 'scoring' with his handSo 0 1 at half 
time and a thrashing on the cards.
Second half we upped the tempo and got some fluidity going and got a real 
foothold in the  game. It was no surprise when we equalised  Doukara doing well 
and pulling the ball back to Antonsson who smashed home.We could and should 
have won it but Mowatt could not get the right touch that would have put it 
into an empty net, doukara also had a great header well saved. We put on Sakho 
who caused them all sorts of problems and Wood who had a stormer.Unfortunately 
we also brought on Philips which meant we had used all 3 subs so when Coyle 
could not come out for extra time we were down to ten men! (The FA cup is 
allowing 4 subs in this situation?)Our bottle had gone and we approached extra 
time down to ten with the sole purpose of hanging on for pens, but this went 
wrong as they beat our defence and headed home (looked offside from my seat and 
Silvestri got booked for arguing)At that point I was expecting 4 1 and was 
trying to work out if it was worth leaving if they scored again to make sure I 
could get home.But this current lot are made of sterner stuff and Sakho broke 
down the left and had a shot that the keeper could only parry to the feet of 
the onrushing Chris Wood who hit home ( a typical centre forward goal - 
brilliant stuff) and so to pensThankfully taken at our end
They scored and so did Wood, then they missed and Roofe hit home - 2 1 with us 
with one in hand but Philips had his saved and then Grimes (poor throughout) 
approached his - we were still in the driving seat but as with most left 
footers at pens, it just did not look right and he blasted miles over. SO 
suddenly it was 2 2 and the momentum seemed to have shifted, but Silvestri 
saved and it was left to Ronaldo Vieira to step up and striker the winning 
penalty - pandemonium on the field and in the stands and a brilliant night came 
to a close
All the irregular fans making their first (first for a while) appearance at ER 
went home happy and singing into the night
Nights like this just make it all worthwhile - hoping for a good draw tomorrow
Dave* if you know them you know what i mean
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Re: [LU] team news

[Brendan Osborne]

Eh not any more he isn't :-)
 
> From: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org
> Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2016 13:58:36 +0100
> To: rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk
> CC: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] team news
> 
> How annoying is Hernandes ? Obviously s talented player but he gives the ball 
> away needlessly 75% of the time
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On 17 Sep 2016, at 13:52, Richard Naef  
> wrote:
> 
> >> 
> >> He's a complete passenger. No pace, no idea. Can't play on his own up
> > front.
> > 
> > true, but he can take a good penalty!
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Re: [LU] we are through

[Brendan Osborne]

Another win and a clean sheet - will take that.
 
 
Ossie.
 
> Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 20:42:56 +
> From: nat...@sky.com
> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: [LU] we are through
> 
> Sounded awful (and looked bad on periscope) second half - they had all the 
> play and missed a couple of chances. But another clean sheet - Swede did 
> well, 
> Eddie reckons Doukara man of match
> "in the cup it is just all about getting through"
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[LU] Away to Luton...

[Brendan Osborne]

...in the next round. 
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Re: [LU] Really Poor

[Brendan McWilliams]

Trap door being wound out for Monk?

Steve Bruce anyone?

Tin hat on...

BMW



On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 1:55 PM +0200, "Kevin Lewis (UK SBS)" 
mailto:kevin.le...@uksbs.co.uk>> wrote:


Well.. A quite abysmal performance against a QPR team with no big names 
operating on their last season of parachute payments.

I'd have taken a 2-1 defeat in an exciting game having played well, but I can't 
remember feeling so disillusioned after just one game,  ever.  Another defeat 
and performance like that in the next few games, and Monkey won't last long.

Anyway I'm going list the players in order of Crapness.

Green - Quite what that sort of start, after 3 minutes,  can do to a team's 
confidence in him - I shudder to think.
Grimes
Wood
Dallas
Diaraguaga
Roofe
Vieira
Berardi
Coyle
Bamba
Taylor
Bartley
Antonnson
Sacko  - Only on the field for 15 mins, so that says it all.

Probably a bit harsh on the youngsters there, whose positions in the table were 
not helped by goal-costing errors.  Green is experienced enough to have no 
excuses.

KOT.


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Re: [LU] NON-LU Is there a footy match this weekend?

[Brendan Osborne]

>From an Irish perspective (on the football that is), we cannot do any worse 
>than we did 4 years ago. ;-)
 
We also have a history of punching above our weight against the top teams, and 
being terrible against the smaller ones (any of this sounding familiar?), so 
our group (Italy Belgium and Sweden) might be interesting. Don't expect us to 
qualify, but there might be a shock or two nevertheless!
 
Looking forward to having the choice of watching live matches on TV for the 
next few weeks though - infinitely better than watching all the other drivel 
that's passes for a TV schedule these days.
 
MOT gents
 
 
Ossie

 
> From: m...@leeds-united.net
> To: dubca...@iinet.net.au; leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 14:13:34 +0100
> Subject: Re: [LU] NON-LU Is there a footy match this weekend?
> 
> Not optimistic about England.  Very much like the EU was pro hodgson a few
> years back now beginning to doubt it and have no faith! If he stifles the
> good young talent we have against a bang average injury ravaged Russia he
> has to go.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Peter
> Castlehouse
> Sent: 08 June 2016 12:53
> To: leedslist
> Subject: [LU] NON-LU Is there a footy match this weekend?
> 
> Four years ago, this list was alight with everybody's predictions, reasons
> for gloom and other subjects and topics that took us away from our dreary
> daily toll in the salt mines.
> 
>  
> 
> As a comparison with the Brexit referendum, does nobody give a damn or have
> an opinion then about our national teams?
> Like for instance, how many players do we have participating?
> 
> Should we refer to them as Pro-Lards in Yerp?
> 
>  
> 
> Pete C
> 
> (first match 5am Sunday morning BeIN Sports ch 513 on Foxtel - Eng v Rus)
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Re: [LU] New Shirt Sponsor

[Brendan Osborne]

Steve Gillen in 5..4...3.:-)
 
Hope you're doing ok Steve!
 

 
> Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 16:29:41 +0300
> From: tedhea...@gmail.com
> To: bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk
> CC: leedslist@gn.apc.org; paul.re...@mac.com
> Subject: Re: [LU] New Shirt Sponsor
> 
> Well, I was brought up in Leeds area in the 70's and it seemed ingrained in
> us to "dislike" anything connected to Man U, and the colour red. So (sad to
> some) I have never owned anything red, or had a Sharp TV, I changed phone
> provider when Vodascum sponsored them &  now I won't buy Adidas.
> 
> I quite like Manchester as a city now tho so I must have mellowed.
> 
> Each to their own.
> 
> Ted H
> On 13 May 2016 15:53, "{broken-address} John Lee" <
> bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:
> 
> > Aha, so it has exercised other minds as well??
> > Personally, I'm against all these betting firms and the like, so if I was
> > to have any objections, it would be about the glut of ways to waste one's
> > money!
> >
> >   From: Paul Reeve 
> >  To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> >  Sent: Friday, 13 May 2016, 12:51
> >  Subject: Re: [LU] New Shirt Sponsor
> >
> >
> > I read in YP that the 32 Red logo is changing to blue on the shirts so as
> > not to upset the fans
> >
> >
> > http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/blue-is-the-colour-as-leeds-united-sponsor-changes-its-logo-to-stop-fans-seeing-red-1-7909599
> >
> > Cheers
> > Reeva
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[LU] New Shirt Sponsor

[Brendan Osborne]

32 RED announced as new shirt sponsor - 3 year deal.
 
http://www.leedsunited.com/news/article/noyxd5aejlkb1pvlojcyix7xq/title/united-announce-new-shirt-sponsor
 
We'll probably use this money to pay the fine from the previous sponsor ;-)
 
 
 
Ossie. 
  
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Re: [LU] NonLU: Radiohead

[Brendan McWilliams]

I thought "OK Computer" and "The Bends" were not for me upon early listenings, 
then slowly but surely it sinks into the point that nearly 20 years later 
OK Computer is still for me my favourite album. Then again, I've fallen off the 
musical map in recent years so my judgement is way off these days.
 
> Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 22:03:08 +0200
> From: davidwool...@gmail.com
> To: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org; leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] NonLU: Radiohead
> 
> You'll never get a good Radiohead album with Cellino in charge...
> 
> Off to see them next Saturday night (after keeping the Leeds Lards ‎footy 
> efforts traditional going during the day with Big Al and Allard). Will judge 
> it after I've heard it live. 
> 
>   Original Message  
> From: {broken-address} Richard Walker
> Sent: Wednesday, 11 May 2016 21:49
> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: [LU] NonLU: Radiohead
> 
> So what do people think of Radiohead's new album ?
> 
> Must admit I've only heard one tune so far and that was enough for me.
> 
> Bloody awful.
> 
> Genius or prententious rubbish ?
> 
> http://youtu.be/TTAU7lLDZYU
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [LU] Hard Division next year

[Brendan McWilliams]

Hi, 
 
the same thing is said every year: the three coming down from above and the 
in-form recently promoted teams will be hard to handle etc. but it rarely makes 
the division any more difficult. 
 
I have full confidence in our ability to reach mid table mediocrity 
irrespective of newcomers.
 
Of the three who come down from the Prem, typically one goes straight back up 
automatically, one might make the Playoffs, one usually self combusts and has 
serious problems (e.g. QPR, Wigan).  OF those that come up from L1, as likely 
as not one or two will go down. 
 
 
BMW
 
> From: m...@myray.com
> Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 11:08:47 +0300
> To: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk
> CC: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] Hard Division next year
> 
> As if it means anything what we think
> 
> 
> Dr Michael Benjamin,
> Community Psychiatrist
> ​0505317772
> -
> Oranit || Crossed Lines Amazon
> 
> -
> ​
> Blog:
> ​
> 
> *http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/author/michael-benjamin/
> *
> -
> myRay: On-line Self-Help CBT
> http://www.myRay.com 
> http://www.myRay.org 
> --
> Mental Health:
> http//www.MyDoctorExplains.com 
> 
> Auditing || Quality Control
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> 
> 
> On 12 May 2016 at 10:48, Richard Walker  wrote:
> 
> > I believe he will spend in the Summer.
> >
> > Cellino out campaign has definitely lost some wind recently.
> >
> > Let's see.
> >
> >
> > --
> > *From:* Dr Michael Benjamin 
> > *To:* "nat...@sky.com" 
> > *Cc:* Leeds List 
> > *Sent:* Thursday, 12 May 2016, 7:56
> > *Subject:* Re: [LU] Hard Division next year
> >
> > Dave,
> > Dream on.
> > This is all about Cellino and his fantasies as a head cook and bottlewasher
> > in the football industry.
> > Apart from the supporters, there is nothing left us as a club. We missed
> > every train, they stole the tracks and wrecked the station. What you see
> > now is a lunatic asylum.
> > Michael
> >
> >
> > Dr Michael Benjamin,
> > Community Psychiatrist
> > ​0505317772
> > -
> > Oranit || Crossed Lines Amazon
> > <
> > http://www.amazon.com/Oranit-Crossed-Lines-Malcolm-Green-ebook/dp/B00WR7WCRS/ref=tmm_kin_title_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
> > >
> > -
> > ​
> > Blog:
> > ​
> > 
> > *http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/author/michael-benjamin/
> > *
> > -
> > myRay: On-line Self-Help CBT
> > http://www.myRay.com 
> > http://www.myRay.org 
> > --
> > Mental Health:
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> > 
> > Auditing || Quality Control
> > http://www.MyDoctorExplains.com/alamo/
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >
> > On 11 May 2016 at 23:44, nat...@sky.com  wrote:
> >
> > > Cellino had better spend well with Newcastle and Norwich joining Villa in
> > > relegationAdd Wigan on the upsurge and the Division next season looks
> > even
> > > harder to get out of than it was this year ?
> > > We need to get the manager sorted asap and bring in the new players ready
> > > for preseason
> > > Hopefully he will actually back up his words with action and entice a lot
> > > of the missing fans back
> > > Dave
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Re: [LU] 2 2 Dallas

[Brendan Osborne]

6 added minutes - c'mon you Leeds!! :-) 
 
> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2016 15:50:42 +
> From: nat...@sky.com
> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: [LU] 2 2  Dallas
> 
> Made by Botaka
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Re: [LU] 1 up

[Brendan Osborne]

Apparently we haven't won 4 in a row in the Championship since 2005/2006. 
 
MOT
 
 
Ossie
 
> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2016 14:18:14 +
> From: nat...@sky.com
> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: [LU] 1 up
> 
> Wood showing us what we have missed ?
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[LU] 2-0

[Brendan Osborne]

Bamba with a screamer from 20 yards
 
Dave with the 2nd
 
MOT! 
  
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Re: [LU] 1 0 up

[Brendan Osborne]

I care - not much, but I care :-)
 
 
 
Ossie 
 
> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2016 19:13:06 +
> From: nat...@sky.com
> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: [LU] 1 0 up
> 
> I know no-one cares but we are one up - Dallas
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Re: [LU] football?

[Brendan Osborne]

Paul Robinson or Nigel Martyn? Or both? :-)
 
> From: d.r.bren...@leeds.ac.uk
> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 11:11:57 +
> Subject: Re: [LU] football?
> 
> 
> Or are we being slightly disingenuous here?  Remember the days when there 
> were five, yes five Leeds players in the In-ger-land team?  Bowyer, Woodgate, 
> Smith, who were the other two?  I'm sure we conversed readily on the national 
> team's exploits during those times, because our club's players were in the 
> team. 
> 
> Saying that I didn't watch either England game, I've got more interest in the 
> JP Trophy game on Sunday (but will be watching the cricket T20 final so won't 
> watch that either).
> 
> DRB
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Re: [LU] Watch out Cardiff =Murphy is back !!

[Brendan Osborne]

PHEW!!! Get in Antenucci!! 
 
> From: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk
> Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2016 21:38:19 +
> To: ws.callag...@live.co.uk
> CC: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] Watch out Cardiff =Murphy is back !!
> 
> Ydeeed
> 
> 
> Eddie gray is a god .
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> > On 8 Mar 2016, at 21:34, wayne  wrote:
> > 
> > Eddie Gray thinks we'll win so that's us fk'd then
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On
> > Behalf Of Richard Walker
> > Sent: 08 March 2016 21:33
> > To: Richard Naef 
> > Cc: Leeds List 
> > Subject: Re: [LU] Watch out Cardiff =Murphy is back !!
> > 
> > Just hit the fucking bar. 
> > 
> > 
> >> On 8 Mar 2016, at 21:31, Richard Walker  wrote:
> >> 
> >> I fully expect cardiff to get 2 in injury time.
> >> 
> >> Saves, corners, jeez, this is just awful to listen to
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> On 8 Mar 2016, at 21:29, Richard Naef 
> > wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> we've both been around too long to think anything else.  they've had
> > about 8 corners in succession and we're looking so nervous. 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> From: nat...@sky.com [mailto:nat...@sky.com]
> >>> Sent: 08 March 2016 21:24
> >>> To: Richard Naef; 'Leeds List'
> >>> Subject: Re: [LU] Watch out Cardiff =Murphy is back !!
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> The sad thing is you are NOT joking !!
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> _
> >>> 
> >>> From: Richard Naef 
> >>> To: 'Leeds List' 
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, 8 March 2016, 21:20
> >>> Subject: Re: [LU] Watch out Cardiff =Murphy is back !!
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> well we're one up and they are down to 10 men, 10 mins left ..  
> >>> so I'd take a draw as well!
> >>> 
> >>> 
>  Silvestri, Berardi, Bamba, Bellusci, Taylor, Murphy, Bridcutt, 
>  Mowatt,
> >>> Cook,
>  Antenucci, Dou
>  
>  Peacock-Farrell, Wootton, Diagouraga, Carayol, Dallas, Botaka, Erwin.
>  Coyle and Cooper injured (Wood still out)Dave, Carayol dropped 
>  (Adeyemi 'loan tied') Make of it all what you will - hard to see 3 
>  points coming to
> >>> us
>  tonight - will take a draw now Dave
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[LU] Watford away...

[Brendan Osborne]

.in the cup.
 
 
  
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Re: [LU] list anniversaries

[Brendan Osborne]

15 year veteran here (2001) - so feel like a kid amongst all you elder 
statesmen! :-)
 
I remember my first post was in response to someone slagging off the club (can 
you imagine??) and I was fairly indignant that we should all be behind the club 
NO MATTER WHAT!! Funny how the next 15 years altered that!! :-)
 
Steve Gillen was the first one to respond to my post. I remember mentioning 
that fact to his missus, when Steve was going through his illness in the last 
18 months or so.
 
Here's to the next 15!!
 
 
MOT
 
 
Ossie.
 
> From: jeremyadam...@hotmail.com
> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 14:08:47 +
> Subject: Re: [LU] list anniversaries
> 
> Bugger me I'm coming up for my 20th season too, I joined right after GG 
> became manager which was not long after the season started if I recall 
> correctly. I remember with much excitement discovering this list and then, 
> like Damian, waiting for ages before making my first post. It was something 
> to do with which position Sharpe should play (how I remember this and 
> struggle to remember my wedding anniversary beggars belief) and when some 
> lister ( I think it was actually Rich W) agreed with me I was over the moon.
> 
> Can't have been that much longer that I got to be the witness at Da Rev's 
> wedding in NYC, despite never having met him! Then the excitement of visiting 
> my first WorldNet in Leicester and meeting many people I'd only ever known on 
> t'internet. There was Maggie, Boocock, VoF, Pussay Walsh, Da Rev, Raffe?, 
> some Noggie (Karl I think) and a host of other faces I can still remember. 
> Damian's charcuterie, and pitch side drinks stand out, as does a very 
> pleasant post WorldNet drinking session in some Leicester pub before heading 
> home. 
> There was also the thrill of going to my first ever list meet on a rare foray 
> back to the UK. What was the name of the pub that everyone used to meet at? 
> The game was Leeds 1 Wimbledon 1 in 1998, hadn't been to ER in over 10 years 
> at that point since struggling artist wages didn't cover many airfares back 
> then.
> 
> I also fondly remember IRC, with Paul Cundell typing commentary from the 
> stands on some primitive mobile machine thingy! I witnessed many a glorious 
> Euro night with O'Leary's babies that way. 3-0 to the weakest link, Bowyer's 
> goal against AC Milan, demolishing Anderlecht and Besiktas, etc. F*ck me that 
> seems a lifetime ago!
> 
> Jezza
> 
> 
> From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org  on behalf 
> of John Lee 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 5:19 AM
> To: Damian Walsh; leedslist
> Subject: Re: [LU] list anniversaries
> 
> Twas fun back in those days - quite how much time I spent ranting I've no 
> idea, but I just put it down to familiarising myself with the internet. Doom 
> 2 become something of a specialism too as I recall :-)
> End result has been knowing there's a group of people who you can have a 
> drink with and there have been some very special days - the MOALM was a 
> legendary get-together, the like of which will never be repeated. Seeing 2 
> full train carriages singing "Voice of Football, he's a w*nker, he's a 
> w*nker" will live with me forever, regardless of how very drunk I was :-)
> I even heard from your old man again a couple of weeks back too :-)
> All t'best
> Da RevChurch of the Real Man/Yorkshire Man :-)
> 
> 
>   From: Damian Walsh 
>  To: leedslist 
>  Sent: Tuesday, 26 January 2016, 9:14
>  Subject: [LU] list anniversaries
> 
> I've just realised that I've been on the list for 20 years now. I started a
> job in January 1996 that provided me with internet access and as soon as my
> new boss left me on my own I typed in "Leeds United".  If the list wasn't
> the top of the search results it wasn't far off...
> 
> Then 2 days lurking whilst I read and digested the embryonic list guide
> before the first "respectful" and "considered" Wilko Out! posting :)
> 
> A lot of shit has been posted over the years and to be perfectly honest,
> the list has always been more entertaining for it. With the exception of
> the match reports, these uber-LLPC days are quite boring. Bring back the
> 600+ postings days I say though the team probably has to get an awful lot
> better for that.
> 
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Re: [LU] Bristol

[Brendan Osborne]

Me too! Well written Nick. :-)
 
> Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 12:04:09 +
> From: nat...@sky.com
> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] Bristol
> 
> I loved this from Nick - as he says if things continue as they are this could 
> be any one of us very soon
> Dave
>  
> 
>   From: Nick 
>  To: leeds list  
>  Sent: Sunday, 24 January 2016, 11:48
>  Subject: Re: [LU] Bristol
>
> A few minutes after our goal I headed down to the gents in the Kop…and 
> approached the doors with some trepidation as there sounded to be proper old 
> barney going on in there…screaming and shouting and all the rest. Some things 
> being more important than others, I carried on in, pushed the door open and 
> peered round the corner to where all the troughs are…and inside there in one 
> fella all on his own…standing there pissing, facing the wall, jabbing his 
> finger at the bricks yelling (really yelling!) “…and who thought buying that 
> fucking Carayol was good idea eh…useless twat, Huddersfield must be laughing 
> their cocks off at us…at least fat bastard has subbed him off…and that's 
> another thing, that fat bastard…how can you be manager of a fucking football 
> team and that fucking fat…I fucking ask you we’re a fucking joke…what a 
> fucking joke this club is…” then he notices that I’ve come in and am going to 
> have a piss and he just says, “alright mate” and starts whistling a happy 
> tune.
> 
> This was by far the most interesting thing about yesterday’s game. 
> 
> We have now had a run of 4 or 5 home games - unbeaten - in which we have had 
> fewer shots on goal than actual goals we have scored. It really takes some 
> doing. Yesterday, 1 shot on goal. 1 goal. And it was the winner, so yes, 3 
> points and yes a clean sheet. But fucking hell this is unmitigated garbage we 
> are being forced to endure week after week. 
> 
> So what is wrong - some of it is confidence - see Silvestri for this one - he 
> is a good keeper, in the main, yes he needs to command his box a bit more…but 
> the one thing he does not need is barracking, because he just folds…show him 
> a bit of love and he will do well. There was a pretty hard core Anti-Kaspar 
> Schmeichel brigade…look where he is now.
> 
> But most of it is the way the team is set up at home - 4-5-1 - especially 
> with someone who is not an out and out striker as your front man. It is an 
> appallingly defensive mindset and hands the initiative to the visitors. If 
> you then have visitors who want to defend and play on the break (because this 
> is Elland Road after all…) then you are set up for a turgid stalemate. We 
> need 4-4-2 at the very least. And one of those 2 being Antenucci - he has a 
> bit of guile and can hold the ball (yes, getting him to let go of the ball is 
> our major problem with him) - I have no great love for Wood but bloody hell 
> it shows where we have sunk to that people we relieved when he came on. Some 
> will point to him “making things happen” in the run up to the goal…and that 
> is certainly one interpretation; the other is that he is a big lump who 
> stumbled around in the box trying to get on the end of the cross, when the 
> ball bounced off him and fell kindly to Doukara, who slotted it home first 
> time…decent finish.
> 
> I don’t know what it is about our midfield…we seem to be turning Bridcutt and 
> Cook from being useful tenacious little players with an eye for a good pass 
> into a couple of players who expend tons of energy achieving nothing, losing 
> the ball needlessly, playing dangerously bad passes to team mates, then 
> charging recklessly into challenges and getting booked. Adeyemi, I was never 
> particularly convinced by, but he seemed to be more at home supporting the 
> front guys and had a decent couple of games just off there, so we drop him. 
> Murphy flatters to deceive, but at least works hard when he’s trying to close 
> down their play. Dallas - has flashes of good play, mixed with long periods 
> of anonymity - which is pretty much the JD of a winger. Mowatt has finally 
> decelerated so much that he is overtaken by growing grass. Oh, and we sold 
> Byram…(photo of him in the WH game in our paper this morning, did nothing for 
> my mood). Carayol - only 2 games (that I’ve seen) so far and one moment of 
> brilliance…and what of Botaka?
> 
> Then there is Scott Wootton…this is one of the longest running jokes in 
> recent history…other teams actively leave him alone so that we pass to him…it 
> is like putting the game on pause…as the “converted centre half” tries to 
> work why this round thing keeps coming back to him cos he’s sure he kicked it 
> away only a few minutes ago.
> 
> The other problem is our inherent negativity…the passing goes along our back 
> four minute after minute until one of the witless fuckers gets bored and 
> thumps a punt out towards a corner flag. Even when we have made a sudden 
> break and turned play and are heading into the opposition half, the odds are 

Re: [LU] Jimmy Hill RIP

[Brendan Osborne]

RIP Indeed - the face of MOTD when I was growing up.
 
Ossie
 
> Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2015 14:08:25 +
> From: nat...@sky.com
> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: [LU] Jimmy Hill RIP
> 
> Title says it all really, Jimmy Hill is dead.Like him or hate him he 
> certainly did a lot to change football , not all of it for the best but he 
> certainly left his markRIP 'the Chin'
> Dave
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Re: [LU] Qpr

[Brendan Osborne]

Agreed.
 
If it's any consolation - and I know already it isn't - the QPR crowd (around 
where I was sitting) are just a disgruntled with their team as we are.
 
Two poor teams on the day to be honest. They reckoned that MK Dons and Preston 
were the only 2 teams that they've played who were worse than Leeds!!
 
 
Ossie.
 
> From: rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk
> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2015 15:44:45 +
> Subject: Re: [LU] Qpr
> 
> only positive from the match was that Taylor was back and was probably our 
> MoM, until he faded badly late on
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[LU] QPR away

[Brendan Osborne]

Well, I love it when a plan comes together - even better when no plan comes 
together.
 
I'm based in Dublin but working in Luton this week and next - with some work to 
be done over the weekend.
 
Yesterday, I was working in the clients (small) office where two lads were 
having a meeting - the meeting ended and they started talking football. Turns 
out, one of the guys is a QPR fan. I told him who I supported, and without 
prompting, he offered me a ticket (albeit in the Home end).
 
So spare a thought for me tomorrow - I'll have to applaud gracefully when Wood 
gets his hat-trick!! :-) 
 
MOT 
 
Ossie
  
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Re: [LU] the light at the end of the tunnel....

[Brendan Osborne]

What a silly bunt!!
 
(Sorry, couldn't resist) 
 
Ossie.
 
> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2015 17:43:15 +0100
> From: pussaydam...@gmail.com
> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] the light at the end of the tunnel
> 
> FK?
> 
> For a minute I was on King's Bollege Bambridge then I re-read the first
> line :)
> 
> On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 1:21 PM,  wrote:
> 
> > :-)
> >
> > I was even slightly pleased for the fat knacker last night - he comes
> > across as having an inferiority complex, hence the naff jokes, but I
> > suspect his heart's in the right place (as long as it keeps going!). I will
> > stress this in no way commits me to supporting the FK, just that it was
> > nice to see him happier!
> >
> > Cellino out!
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> >
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Re: [LU] Evans

[Brendan Osborne]

Loads of pics of him taking training today - with a black training top and NO 
LEEDS logo on it
 
Maybe they're out of stock of XXXL?
 
> From: rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk
> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 12:59:10 +0100
> Subject: Re: [LU] Evans
> 
> is it just me of does he look like Freddie Starr?
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org]
> > On Behalf Of TWENEY PAUL
> > Sent: 20 October 2015 12:46
> > To: Ian Murray; Nicholas Armit
> > Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org; {broken-address} Nicholas Armit
> > Subject: Re: [LU] Evans
> > 
> > Yep. Said he'd turn up in a sombrero, flip flops and shorts if Rotherham
> > stayed up.
> > 
> > 
> > Steve Evans is a fraudster
> > 
> > He wears a fraudster's hat
> > 
> > He'd sign you on a contract
> > 
> > But then not pay the VAT
> > 
> > 
> > >
> > > On 20 October 2015 at 03:03 Ian Murray
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Sorry, just venting. Think it was mutual consent. Isn't he the guy
> > > who turned up to ER in 'hilarious' Hawaiian get to end of last season?
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > > On 20 Oct 2015, at 12:41, Nicholas Armit  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Oh ok.
> > > >
> > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > >
> > > >> On Oct 19, 2015, at 9:28 PM, Ian Murray
> > 
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> He left because he was a fat wanker.
> > > >>
> > > >> Sent from my iPhone
> > > >>
> > > >>> On 20 Oct 2015, at 12:23, {broken-address} Nicholas Armit
> > > >>>  wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> What kind of football did his teams play? Why did he leave
> > Rotherham?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Sent from my iPhone
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[LU] 1-1 Cooper

[Brendan Osborne]

Get in!!  
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[LU] Murphy and Antenucci.....

[Brendan Osborne]

 in for Mowatt and Byram.
 
Do you think Rosler is on this list? :-)
 
MOT all.
 
 
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[LU] Ah...

[Brendan Osborne]

FFS 

How did that happen. 

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[LU] Chris Wood

[Brendan Osborne]

2-0 delighted for Wood 


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Re: [LU] Throwback song I just seen on twitter

[Brendan Osborne]

I'll have a pint of whatever Dave is drinking. :-)

MOT gents


Sent from my Samsung Mobile on O2

 Original message From: nat...@sky.com 
Date:19/08/2015  20:45  (GMT+00:00) To: Leeds List 
 Subject: [LU] Throwback song I just seen on 
twitter 

POSH SPICE IS A SLAPPER, SHE'S ALWAYS WEARING GUCCI, AND WHEN SHE'S SHAGGING 
BECKHAM SHE DREAMS OF ANTENUCCI!!!
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[LU] MOTM

[Brendan Osborne]

Antenucci has run his nads off tonight. 

MOTM for me.

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Re: [LU] Extra time

[Brendan Osborne]

How bad are Donny ffs

MOT gents



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 Original message From: Wayne 
 Date:13/08/2015  21:40  (GMT+00:00) 
To: Leeds List  Subject: [LU] Extra 
time 

Another 30 mins of this site to come

You'll win nowt with kids...
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Re: [LU] Wootton

[Brendan Osborne]

Two men down now.

What a stupid challenge

Concentrate on the league now


Sent from my Samsung Mobile on O2

 Original message From: Richard walker 
 Date:13/08/2015  20:23  (GMT+00:00) 
To: Scott1cairns1  Cc: Leeds 
List  Subject: Re: [LU] Wootton 

Just watch the twat, he's totally off the pace. We're a man down in midfield 
and it shows.


> On 13 Aug 2015, at 20:21, Richard walker  wrote:
>
> Wootton  style !
>
>> On 13 Aug 2015, at 20:20, Scott1cairns1  wrote:
>>
>> What kind of fuckwitted defending is that.
>>
>> Best regards,Scott.
>>
>>> On 13 Aug 2015, at 20:18, Jonathan Wynne  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Wootton should never play for us again. Conference level player at best.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On 13 Aug 2015, at 20:16, davidwool...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>> OK, he's shit.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
>>>> Original Message
>>>> From: Richard walker
>>>> Sent: Thursday, 13 August 2015 21:14
>>>> To: Brendan Osborne
>>>> Cc: Leeds List
>>>> Subject: Re: [LU] Wootton
>>>>
>>>> He's actually done ok last 10 mins but Deffo not a winger.
>>>>
>>>> Watching Wooton strolling around though is making me angry.
>>>>
>>>>> On 13 Aug 2015, at 20:05, Brendan Osborne  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> How bad is Doukara? He's like a poor man's Carlton Palmer.
>>>>>
>>>>> Still, happy with the lead.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ossie
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my Samsung Mobile on O2
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  Original message 
>>>>> From: Richard walker
>>>>> Date:13/08/2015 20:01 (GMT+00:00)
>>>>> To: nat...@sky.com
>>>>> Cc: Leeds List
>>>>> Subject: Re: [LU] Wootton
>>>>>
>>>>> It's fucking ridiculous Dave, I think Wooton is playing as a sweeper and 
>>>>> Doukara at right wing is equally bad.
>>>>>
>>>>> Still 1-0 and a first for Cook.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 13 Aug 2015, at 19:30, "nat...@sky.com"  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Uwe may have just gone down a bit in my estimation !Looks like Wootton 
>>>>>> is starting in midfield ! He was poor enough in the 5mins on Saturday to 
>>>>>> suggest it is NOT a good idea.
>>>>>> Why not give Sloth a run out ? I know he wants to leave , this would be 
>>>>>> his chance in the 'shop window' - or failing that let Phillips start a 
>>>>>> game.
>>>>>> Of course I will take it back if it is some strange formation I have not 
>>>>>> thought of yet ?
>>>>>> Turnbull, Berardi, Bamba, Cooper TaylorWooton, Cook, MowattDallas 
>>>>>> Antenucci Doukara
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Re: [LU] Wootton

[Brendan Osborne]

How bad is Doukara? He's like a poor man's Carlton Palmer.

Still, happy with the lead.

Ossie


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 Original message From: Richard walker 
 Date:13/08/2015  20:01  (GMT+00:00) 
To: nat...@sky.com Cc: Leeds List  
Subject: Re: [LU] Wootton 

It's fucking ridiculous Dave, I think Wooton is playing as a sweeper and 
Doukara at right wing is equally bad.

Still 1-0 and a first for Cook.


> On 13 Aug 2015, at 19:30, "nat...@sky.com"  wrote:
>
> Uwe may have just gone down a bit in my estimation !Looks like Wootton is 
> starting in midfield ! He was poor enough in the 5mins on Saturday to suggest 
> it is NOT a good idea.
> Why not give Sloth a run out ? I know he wants to leave , this would be his 
> chance in the 'shop window' - or failing that let Phillips start a game.
> Of course I will take it back if it is some strange formation I have not 
> thought of yet ?
> Turnbull, Berardi, Bamba, Cooper TaylorWooton, Cook, MowattDallas Antenucci 
> Doukara
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[LU] All the best...

[Brendan Osborne]

...for the new season gents! (and BOTL too, if there are any still around) :-)
 
Hopefully it can live up to the expectation that we all have for our beloved 
Mighty Whites!
 
For those who do, keep those match reports coming too. They are a great insight 
for those of us who live abroad and can't get to the games. 
 
 
Cheers and MOT!
 
 
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Re: [LU] LIST NEWS

[Brendan Osborne]

First thing I looked for too Ø. :-(
 
 
 
Ossie
 
> From: p...@leedssongs.com
> To: j...@boocock.net; leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 16:45:59 +0200
> Subject: Re: [LU] LIST NEWS
> 
> I am destroyed allready... I was looking for the "like" button on your email!
> 
> Ø.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On 
> Behalf Of "John Boocock"
> Sent: 23. juni 2015 11:04
> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: [LU] LIST NEWS
> 
> Ladies!
> 
> Just to let you all know that I've ensured another two years worth of list 
> heaven from the donations we received from you all.
> 
> I now have £120 left in the kitty.
> 
> Interesting that this past year the list hasn't gone down once. Thank you 
> Green Net you lovely cuddly hippies you :-)
> 
> Remember - if you can't get hold of me about list problems we provide a round 
> the clock service via Pete Cass and James Lundon who should really receive a 
> round of applause for their sterling efforts!
> 
> And don't forget that we also have our FaceBook page at:
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/
> 
> MOT
> 
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Re: [LU] The World (Womens') Cup

[Brendan Osborne]

No - surely it's the swopping shirts at full time!
 
Coat etc...
 
> Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 12:22:26 +
> From: tim.whe...@talk21.com
> To: wiscole...@hotmail.com; rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk; 
> leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] The World (Womens') Cup
> 
> Isn't the problem with mixed matches the risk of a female player being 
> injured by a full-blooded tackle from one of the men?
> Tim W.
>  
> 
> 
>  On Thursday, 18 June 2015, 18:42, Mark  wrote:
>
> 
>  Trust me if there was a woman good enough the lawyers would be lining up and 
> falling over themselves to take the restrictions to courtand they would 
> easily win.
> Cheers
> Mark 
> El Presidente Wisconsin Whites 
> Leeds United 
> Chicago Fire
> 
> 
> From: rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk
> To: wiscole...@hotmail.com; leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: RE: [LU] The World (Womens') Cup
> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 17:33:10 +0100
> 
>  Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha… ho?
> So, it's really not legal for a woman to play in the English league? Would 
> that stand up in the British court system.
> 
> Don't know I'm not a lawyer, but the FA rules don't allow mixed teams over 
> the age of 16, does that count as legal or 
> not?http://www.thefa.com/News/2013/may/mixed-football-extension-u15.aspxdamn 
> those facts… ;)
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Re: [LU] Non LU:Becchio

[Brendan Osborne]

Or Delph? 
 
> From: rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk
> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 12:07:30 +0100
> Subject: Re: [LU] Non LU:Becchio
> 
> or lennon?
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org]
> On
> > Behalf Of Andy Clayton
> > Sent: 28 May 2015 11:58
> > To: Jeremy Thorpe
> > Cc: LEEDSLIST
> > Subject: Re: [LU] Non LU:Becchio
> > 
> > How about never go back if it's Robinson (back up keeper) or Milner?
> > 
> > Andy C
> > 
> > On 28 May 2015 at 11:45, Jeremy Thorpe  wrote:
> > 
> > > NO NO NO Becchio! Bloody donkey!
> > > Beckford is no answer either.
> > > I agree "never go back" .. unless his name is Batty!
> > > 
> > > Jezz
> > >
> > >
> > > Hell no!! Beckford and becchio made the decision to leave. That's the
> > > end of it, there are many others we could give a chance to. Never go
> > > back!!
> > >
> > > >
> > > > God please no! I don't want Beckford back either, great player at
> > > > League
> > > 1
> > > level but I suspect he's not as quick as he used to be and would not
> > > be the answer for the Championship.
> > > > Not sure who I'd want but if Rosler wants to play a pressing game
> > > > with a
> > > 4-3-3 system we're back in the old spot of trying to find someone who
> > > has pace and who can play on the wings. If only I were 36 years
> > > younger, that used to be my forte for Hampshire schoolboys.
> > > > Jeremy
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> Released by Norwich.
> > > >>
> > > >> How many games did he play ? No goals in 2 and a half years for
> Norwich.
> > > >>
> > > >> And there's people all over Twitter who want him back. FFS !
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Re: [LU] Billy no mates?

[Brendan Osborne]

No - we're all getting lots of posts about Best Curry houses/Fish and Chips in 
Yorkshire and Real Ale etc.
 
:-)
 
Ossie! 
 
> From: jeremyadam...@hotmail.com
> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 09:11:37 -0400
> Subject: [LU] Billy no mates?
> 
> Have I been kicked off the list or is it just dead. Or am I Billy no-mates?
> Not one pst in days.
> Jeremy
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[LU] Bye bye Rudy etc..

[Brendan Osborne]

List of players being released this summer.
 
 
Full list of players released:
Daniel Atkinson 
Rodolph Austin 
Luke Booker 
Alex Cairns 
Afolabi Coker 
Stuart Taylor 
Zac Thompson 
Michael Tonge 
Aidan White 
 
- See more at: 
http://www.leedsunited.com/news/article/8vnxct5efa2m1vcq9ks3km08f/title/retained-list---summer-2015#sthash.nvpULn9o.dpuf
 
 
 
MOT
 
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[LU] The story so far....

[Brendan Osborne]

Having been battered by Fulham for most of first half (Silvestri playing like 
he did against Middlesboro) we finally opened the scoring on 40 minutes with a 
downward header from Byram.
 
Sol Bamba scored his first goal for Leeds early in the 2nd half and Fulham 
shortly after are reduced to 10 men when Stafylidis was sent off.
 
Apparently we haven't beaten Fulham at Craven Cottage for 30 years!
 
 
MOT gents!
 
 
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[LU] 0-1

[Brendan Osborne]

Alex Mowatt - GET IN!! 
 
MOT
 
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Re: [LU] 1 - 0 Sharp

[Brendan]

 in fact the more I think about it, the more I see that whilst one of the 
three who drop down will go back up the next season, the other two usually have 
to suffer a complete financial meltdown that was brought about by the Prem 
salaries, with the day of reckoning then arriving finally after relegation.

Look at Blackpool, Bolton, Wigan, Portsmouth, Birmingham, Charlton... Cardiff 
are almost certainly stacked up high with internal loans.

Derby, Reading, Wolves, Blackburn were all relegated in the last six or seven 
years - only Derby under McClaren are now back in shape.

Anyhow my overall point I suppose is that those teams in from the Premier have 
in most cases minimal advantage: the parachute payments are spent before they 
even get them and they are all in various stages of pandemonium when the 
Championship begins.

Anyhow, after the recent purge of the Warnock era deadwood, who's left? Austin 
has until the end of the season, what about the Morison goal machine, and Andy 
White?

BMW



--- Original Message ---

From: "Richard Naef" 
Sent: 1 March 2015 18:59
To: "'leeds list'" 
Subject: Re: [LU] 1 - 0 Sharp

Yeah, look at the top half of the table Only Norwich have been in the premier 
in the last couple of years.  Actually what has happened is that more and more 
teams are rising to the top of the championship and while it is true that once 
there it is hard to stay up there, I'm not sure our chances of going up are any 
worse than in the last few years.  The key is going to be consistency, keeping 
as many of the youth as poss, BUT adding to the team some experience, hoped 
that the likes of Bamba and Sharp might be that experience but after the last 
couple of performances I'm not so sure, oh for a Gordon Strachan!

> -Original Message-
> From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On
> Behalf Of Brendan
> Sent: 01 March 2015 16:15
> To: leeds list
> Subject: Re: [LU] 1 - 0 Sharp
>
> Hi Dave,
>
> Not sure if that's a given.
>
> Glancing at the end of season Premier table from the last few years, typically
> one of the relegated three go back up and the other two will have spent/bet 
> the
> parachute money in trying to stay up beforehand.
>
> Looking at this year's Prem relegation candidates:
> - QPR have a £40m fine waiting for them.
> - Villa are big but have no money
> - Burnley, well run, but who wants to go to Burnley?
>
> All of them who go down have to build entire new teams and we know from this
> season how hit and miss that is.
>
> BMW
>
> --- Original Message ---
>
> From: nat...@sky.com
> Sent: 1 March 2015 13:21
> To: "leeds list" 
> Subject: Re: [LU] 1 - 0 Sharp
>
> Even worse are our long term prospects. I do not generally bother with the 
> Prem
> but whilst in the pub the League table came on. Looking at the bottom 4 -
> Leicester, Burnley and QPR have all walked away with our Division in recent
> years and look well equipped to bounce right back again.The other likely
> contenders for relegation are Villa and whilst I know little about them, they 
> are
> a good sized club so their crowds plus parachute money will stop them doing a
> Wigan or Blackpool and dropping down the Divisions. So next season we will be
> up against the likes of these from the Prem plus whoever does not go up - say
> Watford, Ipswich etc. This means our chances of anything better than a play 
> off
> place (where our record is abysmal) are very slim indeed. Yet to have any 
> chance
> at all we need to convince Byram and Mowatt to stay for a third season, and
> Cook for a second one in the face of Premier teams trying to take them away
> for double or even triple the money they can get at ER. Taylor will be in the
> same boat of he continues to impressOur only hope as things stand is to keep 
> all
> these home grown youngsters and add enough quality to make it all work.So for
> me, unless something drastic happens we are in trouble long term. IF the TV
> money in the Prem continues as it is then we will in effect have a 22 team
> Premier League with 19 actually playing in the Premier League and 3 
> temporarily
> in the Championship and swapping with 3 more at the end of each season.The
> only 'drastic' things that could happen are either Sky and football going 
> bust -
> the talk of there soon being a £1m per week footballer is already out there- 
> or
> us attracting someone with real cash that they will pump into the club. 
> Hopefully
> Cellino has put us in a better and just as importantly clearer, financial 
> position so
> that someone may just be tempted, pour £10 or £15m into the club and then
> recoup that and more when we go up. Both these seem unlikley at present Dave
>

Re: [LU] 1 - 0 Sharp

[Brendan]

Hi Dave,

Not sure if that's a given.

Glancing at the end of season Premier table from the last few years, typically 
one of the relegated three go back up and the other two will have spent/bet the 
parachute money in trying to stay up beforehand.

Looking at this year's Prem relegation candidates:
- QPR have a £40m fine waiting for them.
- Villa are big but have no money
- Burnley, well run, but who wants to go to Burnley?

All of them who go down have to build entire new teams and we know from this 
season how hit and miss that is.

BMW

--- Original Message ---

From: nat...@sky.com
Sent: 1 March 2015 13:21
To: "leeds list" 
Subject: Re: [LU] 1 - 0 Sharp

Even worse are our long term prospects. I do not generally bother with the Prem 
but whilst in the pub the League table came on. Looking at the bottom 4 - 
Leicester, Burnley and QPR have all walked away with our Division in recent 
years and look well equipped to bounce right back again.The other likely 
contenders for relegation are Villa and whilst I know little about them, they 
are a good sized club so their crowds plus parachute money will stop them doing 
a Wigan or Blackpool and dropping down the Divisions. So next season we will be 
up against the likes of these from the Prem plus whoever does not go up - say 
Watford, Ipswich etc. This means our chances of anything better than a play off 
place (where our record is abysmal) are very slim indeed. Yet to have any 
chance at all we need to convince Byram and Mowatt to stay for a third season, 
and Cook for a second one in the face of Premier teams trying to take them away 
for double or even triple the money they can get at ER. Taylor will be in the 
same boat of he continues to impressOur only hope as things stand is to keep 
all these home grown youngsters and add enough quality to make it all work.So 
for me, unless something drastic happens we are in trouble long term. IF the TV 
money in the Prem continues as it is then we will in effect have a 22 team 
Premier League with 19 actually playing in the Premier League and 3 temporarily 
in the Championship and swapping with 3 more at the end of each season.The only 
'drastic' things that could happen are either Sky and football going bust - the 
talk of there soon being a £1m per week footballer is already out there- or us 
attracting someone with real cash that they will pump into the club. Hopefully 
Cellino has put us in a better and just as importantly clearer, financial 
position so that someone may just be tempted, pour £10 or £15m into the club 
and then recoup that and more when we go up. Both these seem unlikley at present
Dave


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[LU] 1 - 0 Sharp

[Brendan Osborne]

Nice start - one up after 7 minutes MOT
 
 
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Re: [LU] Watching Barcelona, listening to Leeds

[Brendan Osborne]

Fortunately the bottom 6 teams are all losing!! 
 
Tuesday night curse returns or just our bogey south coast team. Bugger either 
way!
 
> From: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk
> Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 21:29:23 +
> To: ws.callag...@live.co.uk
> CC: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] Watching Barcelona, listening to Leeds
> 
> When the truth is our luck just ran out. I think we've been getting a few 
> results but I don't think the performances have been great. 
> 
> > On 24 Feb 2015, at 21:24, Richard Walker  wrote:
> > 
> > Just loving the excuses Radio Leeds are coming up with for the lame 
> > performance. We are tired apparently.
> > 
> >> On 24 Feb 2015, at 21:21, wayne callaghan  wrote:
> >> 
> >>  There's very little between them 😊
> >> 
> >>  Wayne
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Re: [LU] Sub

[Brendan Osborne]

Nice summary Rich! Hanging on to a 1-0 lead for 96 minutes would've been 
unheard of a couple of months ago - especially against the league leaders!
 
MOT gents!! :-) (and BOTL if there are still any knocking around).
 
> From: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk
> Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 14:16:44 +
> To: ws.callag...@live.co.uk
> CC: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] Sub
> 
> Stunning result. I was going to say 99 out of 100 times we wouldn't have won 
> this but actually Boro for all their possession were pretty ordinary. I 
> slagged a few players off mid match but I think it's not the time now. Time 
> for a celebratory drink. On on on .
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> > On 21 Feb 2015, at 13:56, Richard Walker  wrote:
> > 
> > That's what I meant
> > 
> > Stupid foreign manager has used all his subs
> > 
> > Sent from my iPad
> > 
> >> On 21 Feb 2015, at 13:53, wayne callaghan  wrote:
> >> 
> >> No but he's getting his head to all their corners.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 1:49 pm, Richard Walker  
> >> wrote:
> >> 
> >> Morison is our best defender 
> >> 
> >> Sent from my iPad 
> >> 
> >>> On 21 Feb 2015, at 13:46, wayne callaghan  
> >>> wrote: 
> >>> 
> >>>  Take Bellucci off put morison in defence and bring antenucci on 
> >>> 
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Re: [LU] Team news // no changes

[Brendan Osborne]

One Nil Mowatt after 3 minutes
 
MOT 
 
> From: arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org
> Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 07:20:02 -0500
> To: j...@jimmoran.co.uk
> CC: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] Team news // no changes
> 
> Didnt realise Clayton was at Boro. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Feb 21, 2015, at 6:22 AM, Jim Moran  wrote:
> > 
> > Silvestri, Wootton, Bamba, Bellusci, C Taylor, Byram, Austin, Murphy, Cook, 
> > Mowatt, Morison.
> > 
> > Subs:
> > Taylor, Berardi, Cooper, Sloth, Sharp, Cani, Antenucci.
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Re: [LU] Reading

[Brendan Osborne]

GOAL Luke Murphy from 25 yards!!
 
Get in!!
 
 
MOT
 
> From: matthew.gayn...@btopenworld.com
> Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 20:41:22 +
> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: [LU] Reading
> 
> Struggling to remember a worst half of football.  And I've seen the Lards. 
> 
> Matt
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Re: [LU] Non-LU: Facebook and Twitter

[Brendan]

Yep, Phil Hay & Adam Pope - mandatory following for reliable LUFC news.

Facebook is frankly annoying and it's 100% "look at me" school playground stuff.

--- Original Message ---

From: "Matt Anderson" 
Sent: 7 February 2015 15:03
To: "N" 
Cc: "leedslist" 
Subject: Re: [LU] Non-LU:  Facebook and Twitter

I love Twitter, never tweet but follow things I'm interested in and creates my 
own personal news feed.

For example I follow Phil hay and Adam Pope and have the notifications turned 
on so I immediately get alerted to tweets... Been pretty useful with the 
changes in manager and the like. Also Phil hay is great for in game updates.

Also follow things of political, local, work and humorous interest

As someone once said Facebook is look at me, Twitter is look at this

Sent from my iPad

> On 7 Feb 2015, at 13:45, N  wrote:
>
> Likewise, I was an early adopter of both.  Still have an active Facebook 
> account though my visits, to it grow fewer by the year.
>
> As for Twitter, I never quite saw the use, probably because my thoughts and 
> opinions tend to be a little more verbose than allowed.
>
> Why do you ask, Pete?
>
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Re: [LU] Non-LU: Facebook and Twitter

[Brendan]

Been on Facebook from way back but my usage of it is becoming close to zero. 
Haven't had the app on my phone for years.

WhatsApp, Telegram, Twitter will finish Fakebook

I was mystified and against Twitter for a long time then discovered that for 
our beloved LUFC games, journalists, writers etc ie selecting the "right" 
people to follow it's a great "resource".  I rarely tweet, but on the whole 
it's a big thumbs up from me.

BMW

PS I find the Mike vs Rob emails hilarious.

--- Original Message ---

From: "N" 
Sent: 7 February 2015 14:45
Cc: "leedslist" 
Subject: Re: [LU] Non-LU:  Facebook and Twitter

Likewise, I was an early adopter of both.  Still have an active Facebook 
account though my visits, to it grow fewer by the year.

As for Twitter, I never quite saw the use, probably because my thoughts and 
opinions tend to be a little more verbose than allowed.

Why do you ask, Pete?

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Re: [LU] Bellusci charge

[Brendan]

I don't really have a problem with Joey Barton, he's had a few scraps but 
haven't we all...

(*away to get the tin hat on)

BMW

--- Original Message ---

From: "Jeremy Adams" 
Sent: 5 February 2015 19:30
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Bellusci charge

Well I'm glad I opened up this topic for conversation!

How about we discuss a starting eleven of footballers who we'd never want 
playing for Leeds because of something they did or said..
Off the top of my head...Ched EvansJohn TerryLee BowyerJoey BartonMarlon 
KingLee Hughes


Jeremy

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