Re: [LU] The Story So Far

[Tim Whelan via Leedslist]

Apart from all that we also need Liverpool to win the league, as they 
did in the last three seasons when we have been promoted to the top 
division (in 1964, 1990 and 2020). That could happen.
That is of course the reason that it took so long for us to get promoted 
back to the Premier League, as we had to wait for them to break their 30 
spell of not winning the league.


Watching the EFL highligts last night it was deeply hilarious to see 
Ipswich go 3-0 down in the manner they did, but I fear that Kieffer 
Moore will be an excellent loan signing for them and get a few goals by 
the end of the season.



   -- Original Message --
   From: j...@boocock.net
   To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
   Sent: Sunday, February 4th 2024, 08:49
   Subject: [LU] The Story So Far


 Ipswich's defeat by Preston confirms that our principle barrier to 
automatic promotion should be based on maintaining consistency in our 
results, followed closely by squad fitness and only then by hoping 
Southampton get deducted 10 points for er, being Southampton. Why do I 
say this? Well mainly because our situation has always been in our own 
hands. Think Wendies, Rotherham, Sunderland, etc etc..


 As regards a cup run, half of me thinks "ah the magic of the cup" and 
the other half thinks "it is adiversion from the real target". Mind you 
the thought of winning the cup, staying in this rather lovely league and 
laughing at Liverpool as we beat them at Wembley plus a trip round 
Europe has it's merits.


 One other thought, I feel our on field discipline is the best I have 
ever seen (excluding the red card issues which seem to have been 
resolved). If I had time I would look into this further. (Where are the 
Stattos when we need them?)


 In the past three years I have seen every Leeds match bar one from the 
comfort of the armchair (thank you whoever dreamt up Amazon's Firestick) 
and, although I miss being on Row W, the Adolphi and the fun of "Spadge 
Tours" to Europe, at 70 I am happy with my lot. Me and my mate Brian 
have had a lot of fun doing this much to the amusement of our fellow 
villagers in the pub either before or after matches. They are mainly 
Mags or Mackems and they provide us with lots of fun. I mean only 
drawing four all with a big club like Luton. And what fun when they 
played each other in the cup.


 I digress. Anyway here's to a season which continues to keep my 
attention firmly fixed on the league and a season where we remain 
unbeaten at home.


 Betty
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Re: [LU] Tractor boys

[Tim Whelan via Leedslist]

One quirk is that all three goals in the first half were scored by 
former Leeds academy players, including the kind contribution from Leif 
Davis.

As well as having three different Dutchmen on the scoresheet.
-- Original Message --
From: "Richard Walker via Leedslist" 
To: "nat...@sky.com" ; "leeds list" 
; "John Lee" 

Sent: Sunday, 24 Dec, 23 At 09:43
Subject: Re: [LU] Tractor boys
Great win but not perfect as some are saying. We put ourselves under 
loads of pressure early doors with the aimless passing across the back 
and Meslier didn’t help with some really poor kicking straight into 
touch.But once we got going we were good value and the 2nd half was the 
best we’ve played this season as Ipswich never really had a kick and 
ended up making multiple subs not to win the game but to protect players 
for their game against Leicester on Boxing Day.The Piroe / Rutter 10/9 
combination worked as it tends to do in home games where we have the 
momentum - it’s away games that are sometimes the problem. Summerville 
continues to look a threat every time he gets the ball and still in my 
eyes is the most exciting talent playing British football in any league. 
Big bids incoming ! Great pen as well.Piroe’s goal was top drawer even 
if we were a bit lucky in the build up. Archie Gray looked like a right 
back and he is starting to get more confident going forward. I remember 
Ian Snodin converting to right back from central midfield and ended up 
playing for England and would have had a lot more caps had he not got 
injured. Who knows with Archie ? Although I think he’s got too much to 
offer in midfield.Ipswich fans couldn’t sell their tickets and looked 
like they realised that it might not be a stroll for them this season. 
Leif Davis has been getting the plaudits this season as the best left 
back in the division. I think not. He’s another left back who can’t 
defend. Ok going forward but really suspect in defence. His own goal was 
a highlight.The South Stand sang ‘you’ve seen Firpo now fuck off home’ 
which made me smile.

Bring on Preston
Meslier - 6. Nothing to do, kicking rubbish.
Gray - 8. Majestic
Spence - 8. Great attacking in first half. Unfortunately everytime he 
got himself into a great position in the box his left foot cross let him 
down.

Rodon - 8. Comfortable
Struijk - 8. Ditto
Ampadu - 8. Some great interceptions
Kamara - 7. Battling performance
Summerville- 9. Class
Piroe - 8. Much needed performance and top class goal with his wrong 
foot

James - 7. Great first half an hour but his final ball remains poor.
Rutter - 9. Top performance- his vision / passing is fantastic and today 
he battled like a no 9.

Subs - not sure Bamford touched the ball others didn’t do much
Happy Christmas !
On Saturday, December 23, 2023, 5:46 pm, nattan--- via Leedslist 
 wrote:
Merry Christmas everyone.  What a start to the festive season. A must 
win game was won ( in the end at a canter) They had one snap shot that 
hit the post at 2-0 and created no other, even half chances throughout 
the game.3 0 flattered us a bit at half time as we got the luck and the 
rub of the green a few times but by the end there was a real gulf in 
class as we destroyed them.
A corner in the first 10 mins ( " lets score a scruffy goal from a 
corner

Dave
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Re: [LU] Swansea

[Tim Whelan via Leedslist]

Is it just me, or is anyone else getting tired of the fact that we 
haven't hit a decent free kick all season? Certainly no goals direct 
from free kicks, or even any that went remotely close or forced the 
keeper to make a decent save. (There might have been one that floated 
gently over the wall straight at the keeper, but I don't count that). 
And I can't remember any goals coming from free kicks crossed into the 
box.


When we got a free kick in a dangerous position early in the second half 
last night I predicted that Summerville would step up and shoot straight 
into the wall, but I was wrong. In fact, Piroe stepped up and put it 
straight into the wall instead.


This is why I was sorry to see Sam Greenwood go out on loan, but I 
suppose that being the best set piece taker available doesn't get you 
selected if your all round game isn't quite good enough. (See also James 
Ward-Prouse and England).


But the players who are still with us are a talented bunch, so surely 
there must be at least one of them we could train up to become a free 
kick specialist. Can't Daniel Farke just pick one and tell them to 
practise?


Rant over.




-- Original Message --
From: "Richard Walker via Leedslist" 
To: "nat...@sky.com" ; "Robert Heath" 


Cc: "leeds list" 
Sent: Thursday, 30 Nov, 23 At 17:20
Subject: Re: [LU] Swansea
 Agree with all that especially Piroe who definitely had his 
bestgame.Very commanding in an advanced midfield role and he got his 
goal which backs up Farke's theory.
I think Sumerville is excellent and I agree that he could go right to 
the top. I think he's got more 'in his locker' than Sterling ever had. 
He's one of those rare players that you know something is going to 
happen when it gets the ball. Eddie Gray had that ability but none many 
do. I can't currently same the same about Rutter, but he does do things 
that you don't often see on a football pitch especially at this level, I 
think he just needs some consistency. He was awful at Rotherham.
I also think Swansea caused us a lot of problems in the first half 
without testing the keeper much but they were lively and overall it was 
a good win.
Bamford is trying way to hard but he looks fit and you just know he will 
score goals if given the chance but at the moment you just can't drop 
Piroe or Rutter.
I see Farke was talking about Ayling and his decision to exclude him 
from the squad because of Gray and Spence's inclusion. Said it was one 
of the hardest decisions he's had to make. Unfortunately, Ayling has 
declined rapidly and everytime he plays now you can see his legs have 
gone. I think Liam C is on the way as well.


On Thursday, 30 November 2023 at 16:44:14 GMT, Robert Heath 
 wrote:


 That was my first time seeing Farke's Farkers in the flesh. The 
atmosphere
was indeed weirdly flat. Credit to the Welsh who managed to enliven 
things
for the last 20 mins with a nonstop rendition of an (obviously new) 
chant

about Yanick Bolasie.

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Re: [LU] Return to Yesteryear

[Tim Whelan via Leedslist]

And many congratulations for surviving on this planet for as long as you 
have.


Last week I also had an early significant birthday celebration in the 
prawn sandwich section of Portman Road, even though my 60th isn't until 
next Saturday. I hope you get to see as good a performance as I did.


-- Original Message --
From: "John Boocock" 
To: "leedslist@gn.apc.org" 
Sent: Saturday, 2 Sep, 23 At 09:43
Subject: [LU] Return to Yesteryear
As part of my 70th Birthday year celebrations (my family have insisted 
it is a long drawn out affair - a bit like my life to be honest) I 
started my celebrations in July when I was taken to the opera, since 
then I have had a day at the races and next up is a trip to SOTG (also 
as part of the thankgodthetransferwindowisclosed celebrations).
The choice of the Wendies was purely random but it means I get fed and 
watered in the Centenary Pavilion and then have a mild seizure climbing 
up to block L in the MNES. By about 6.00pm I hope to be in Whitelocks 
before being whisked away back to the Land of the Sad Wartin' Geordies 
(LOTSWG).
I haven't actually reached the actual birthday yet, but if I do it will 
be a wonder after all the excitement of recent days. I will attempt my 
first match report in over one million years if I get as far as Sunday 
without a visit to the LGI or Jimmys.

Betty
P.S. I recommend the Opera at Covent Garden if only for the Coach and 
Horses just down the road which served 'the best pint of Guinness in 
London'.


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[LU] Someone agrees with Rich Walker

[Tim Whelan via Leedslist]

https://tbrfootball.com/danny-murphy-suggests-leeds-midfielder-marc-roca-isnt-good-enough-for-the-premier-league/
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Re: [LU] Stanley

[Tim Whelan via Leedslist]

And after Liverpool‘s defeat this afternoon, there are no teams still in 
the FA Cup that we’ve beaten this season.-- Original Message --
On  Saturday, 28 Jan, 23 At 21:49, Robert Heath 
wrote:


Well we have apparently had something like 11 away ties in a row, so the 
law of averages says that..oh forget it, we'll be drawn away 
again.


On Sat, Jan 28, 2023 at 8:58 PM Tim Whelan via Leedslist 
mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org> > wrote:


 The 5th round draw is on Monday night, at 7pm on the One show. And we
 will get whatever pig of a tie they can dream up for us, something 
like

 Man City away.

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 Sent: Saturday, 28 Jan, 23 At 18:15
 Subject: [LU] Stanley
 Well, apart that from that 19 foot tall teenager's goal, we wandered
 through that as if it was a behind closed doors training match. Jack's
 goal was nice, Bamford continued to improve and the new lads did the
 best they could. The big test will be the Scabs next weekend. Who have
 we drawn in the next round?
 Betty
 (On the Guinness)
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Re: [LU] Stanley

[Tim Whelan via Leedslist]

The 5th round draw is on Monday night, at 7pm on the One show. And we 
will get whatever pig of a tie they can dream up for us, something like 
Man City away.


-- Original Message --
From: "John Boocock" 
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Sent: Saturday, 28 Jan, 23 At 18:15
Subject: [LU] Stanley
Well, apart that from that 19 foot tall teenager's goal, we wandered 
through that as if it was a behind closed doors training match. Jack's 
goal was nice, Bamford continued to improve and the new lads did the 
best they could. The big test will be the Scabs next weekend. Who have 
we drawn in the next round?

Betty
(On the Guinness)
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[LU] Accrington it is then

[Tim Whelan via Leedslist]

They have just scraped through against the mighty Boreham Wood for the 
right to play little old us. Needing a penalty in extra time to secure 
their 1-0 win.

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Re: [LU] Who will join this elite list on Sunday?

[Tim Whelan via Leedslist]

Jolly well done and go to the top of the class! A perfect answer.
It's now certain that another country will join this list, and it will 
be either Tunisia or Saudi Arabia


-- Original Message --
From: "Robert Heath" 
To: "Tim Whelan" 
Cc: "Leeds List" 
Sent: Thursday, 15 Dec, 22 At 19:01
Subject: Re: [LU] Who will join this elite list on Sunday?

Well this has been up for 20 hrs so I don't think I'm spoiling it if I 
hazard a guess: I'm guessing they all beat the eventual winners earlier 
in the Tournamentand since both Argscum and France both lost 
earlier I would say the new members of the elite group will be either 
Tunisia or was it Saudi Arabia who beat Argentina?


On Wed, Dec 14, 2022 at 10:10 PM Tim Whelan via Leedslist 
mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org> > wrote:


 1954 Hungary
 1974 East Germany
 1978 Italy
 2010 Switzerland
 One of two countries will join this list on Sunday. There are no 
others

 in the history of the World Cup.
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[LU] Who will join this elite list on Sunday?

[Tim Whelan via Leedslist]

1954 Hungary
1974 East Germany
1978 Italy
2010 Switzerland
One of two countries will join this list on Sunday. There are no others 
in the history of the World Cup.

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Re: [LU] The Curse strikes again!

[Tim Whelan via Leedslist]

I was expecting the curse to do for France last night because they 
hadn’t selected Meslier. Or is it waiting for the semi-final, to make 
them lose to Morocco?

-- Original Message --
On  Saturday, 10 Dec, 22 At 21:14, Robert Heath 
wrote:
Feel desperately sorry for Big H...but he did make the mistake 
of
annoying Leeds United by pushing Tyler Adams and then scoring against 
us
the other weeksomething bad was always going to happen to him 
after

that.
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Re: [LU] FA Cup

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Yes, 2-0 away in the 5th round, on the way to winning the trophy in 
1972.

-- Original Message --
On  Monday, 28 Nov, 22 At 20:41, Michael Benjamin wrote:
Have we ever beaten them in the cup?

Dr Michael Benjamin
Community Psychiatrist
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From: Leedslist leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org on behalf of John 
Boocock j...@boocock.net

Sent: Monday, November 28, 2022 9:17:41 PM
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: [LU] FA Cup

Cardiff away in the FA Cup
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Re: [LU] Current Predicament

[Tim Whelan via Leedslist]

Just to add to the gloom, I remember that on both the last two occasions 
we were relegated from the top flight, in 1982 and 2004, Wolves were one 
of the teams who went down with us.
So it’s a bad omen that they are one of other clubs near the bottom this 
season.

-- Original Message --
On  Saturday, 29 Oct, 22 At 12:44, Robert Heath 
wrote:
If Adams plays and Llorente doesn't, we might have a chance of it not 
being

TOO painful.

At any rate, if I were Leeds I'd ask the ref to just let Salah take his 
2
penalties before kicking off. That would at least get those out of the 
way
early and we could concentrate on defending properly without having 
to
worry about when VAR is going to intervene and gift him a goal for 
no

reason whatsoever.

On Sat, Oct 29, 2022 at 7:56 AM Michael Benjamin m...@myray.com 
wrote:


bgcolor="#88">Does it 
matter what JM does?

Anything better than 0-3 is a blessing.
Get rid ASAP
This gig is over

--Michael


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-Original Message-
From: Leedslist leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org On Behalf Of Kevin 
Lewis

via Leedslist
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2022 9:53 AM
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: [LU] Current Predicament

The list certainly spices up a bit when the team starts to struggle!
I'm not too sure what any manager could do with this squad.

To survive in the Premier League all teams need to be able to defend 
at

times and not give soft chances away.
Leeds have not been able to do that for many years.

We got away with it in the Championship and the first season in the 
PL

because the energy was so good.

The first 3 Bielsa years were unbelievable and tremendous, but I am 
slowly
coming round to the fact that to do the same in the Premier League 
with

budget players just is not sustainable.

Last year Everton gave away a lot of soft goals, but stiffening the
defence has turned them round. They at least stay in games for a 
long

while.
Leeds can dominate possession but still get well-beaten.

One assumes that Marsch will get sacked sometime soon. I'm not 
sure who
can come in and sort out the defending, plus get the team scoring 
again.
Whoever it is will need to sign 5 players in January and do what 
Newcastle
did last year. Even if the money is made available (having spent 
net zero
in the last 2 windows) are the clowns who conduct our transfers capable 
of

getting deals over the line?
The only benefit this season is that there will be a lot more games 
during

and after the January window.

As for today:
Will it be the usual kamikaze-ball or will Marsch try to keep it 
tight?
The former could end up with a similar result to last season, but can 
you
really see this group keeping Liverpool out for 20 mins, let alone 75-80 
to

give us a chance of getting something?

MOT

KOT
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Re: [LU] 6 -2

[Tim Whelan via Leedslist]

Just a couple of historic notes. From memory, I think Bridges suffered 
his knee injury in the away game at Besitkas, not the home game when we 
put six past them. And one home game slightly more recently than 2001 
when we scored 6 at home was the 6-1 win over QPR in the 2004/5 season.


Tim W.

-- Original Message --
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Sent: Monday, 1 Aug, 22 At 11:04
Subject: [LU] 6 -2
Trying to remember last time I saw us score 6 at home - probably 
forgotten at least one, but last i  recall was Besitkas in champions 
league 2001 - thnk was when Bridges did his knee, so from that point if 
view it was a good day.
Went for a beer in Manchester and my son, in his shirt  was pleased to 
get a Leeds salute from a lad at the bar, still great when that happens.
Train was delayed by 15 mins due to " overcrowding " love the railway 
system.
Anyway got to Leeds in time to watch the Lionesses - plan was watch 
first half then taxi to ER to watch second half in Fanzone.  Plan worked 
well till got to ER and saw the length of the queues to get in , so 
sacked off watching Emgkand game to get in the ground. No idea why 
queues were so bad - once you got to the turnstile it was easy enough, 
just put your phone with ticket under the scanner - simple.
The line up was odd - as near the first team as possible ( with 
Sinisterra injured) but the subs , klich excepted, were all kids, so we 
knew the plan was for everyone to get the full 90.
Everything from here on must be read with the caveat that it was a pre 
session friendly v quite poor opposition. Any comparison I make with ex 
players is to give an idea of their style.
We looked good at times and all 4 of the new boys  impressed in 
different ways. Adam's looked neat and tidy Sort of Batty type,  tidied 
things up  kept it simple, nothing flashy and will not shine on TV but 
will live. A players player rather than fans favourite. Kristensen on 
the other hand will be a cult hero - ended the game with a bandage round 
his head after a bad clash of heads ( hope concussion protocols let him 
play next week) he was Danny Mils , tough and uncompromising and went 
rampaging up the wing to good effect but more power than finesse.  Will 
be a hit.
Roca looked to be the new Yorkshire Pirlo , sitting deep at times and 
spraying passes around usually to good effect, looks a decent player.
Aaronson had a hand in 3 goals , sublime ball through to Bamford ( 
albeit defender should have cut it out) , good run and shot  / cross 
that Rod tapped in, and a nice free kick that Koch headed home. Likes to 
run with the ball and was busy.  Again could be decent,
Best bits of the game- Bamfords 2 goals- first he was put through with 
time to think and finished well, he loved it.  Second a proper poachers 
goal right time right place.
Rodrigo- hat trick perhaps,  one may be og, is this the turning point or 
yet another false  dawn ? Will need to repeat this to stop crowd getting 
at him - still lots to prove
Bad bits - we need a left back and Struik is not a left back , he 
offered nothing going forward in a system that relies on full backs 
getting forward for width - a big worry
Even worse was our total inability to deal with balls over the top / 
down the sides,  both goals and 2 other  chances came from simple long 
balls down the channels- Wolves will be  licking their lips.
So plenty of good stuff but some major worries too - we will know more 
once the real football starts - but 6 goals should help confidence
We had the worst seats in the ground - I pity anyone who gets seats 125 
and 126 in N11 row A - right by the entrance barriers, people constantly 
walking past / standing in front of you, made worse yesterday by a 
dickhead who insisted on standing  there looking back at the crowd 
singing the Neville incest song - nutter, was moved on 4 times by very 
patient stewards but kept coming back

Dave
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Re: [LU] D Day

[Tim Whelan via Leedslist]

It won't yet be ‘all for nought’ if we go down today. We would still 
have the parachute payments to give us a big advantage in the 2022/3 
Championship season, which we wouldn't have had if we had never gone up. 
We'd still have to come back up inside a two seasons max, but surely if 
clubs like Norwich, Fulham and Bournemouth can do it we can. Can't we?


-- Original Message --
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To: "nat...@sky.com" 
Cc: "leeds list" 
Sent: Sunday, 22 May, 22 At 10:46
Subject: Re: [LU] D Day
I know what you’re saying Dave, but I don’t agree that today will decide 
how we remember Bielsa. It will decide whether it was ‘all for nought’.
The first 3 years brought us both brilliant football, and a sense of 
pride in the way it was achieved: he showed that it was still possible 
to do things the right way on and off the field. To me there was an 
element of grace to it - not a word often associated with Leeds.
JM doesn’t bring that and whatever the results today (and it is a 38 
game season) it is unfair to expect that from him. Staying up being the 
natural / default desire of any team in our position, but without 
massive change it will likely mean we will be in for another season like 
this one…without our best players. Going down might give us a better 
season to watch as a supporter.
To be honest though, what I’ll miss if we do go down is the joy not the 
‘status’, and that has gone either way.

Nick
Sent from my iPad
On 22 May 2022, at 10:20, nattan--- via Leedslist  
wrote:
Well today is D day for Bielsa and his legacy - does he go down in 
history as the man who got us back on track or just as a 3 season oasis 
in a sea of mediocrity?I will always admire and respect him and he will 
go down as my favourite ever manager ( 31 and counting) both for what he 
did on the pitch and his persona and behaviour off it ( like Chile fans 
I count myself as a Bielsa 'widow') . However relegation today makes his 
football achievements as just a footnote.
There is no point debating if he would have kept us up although one of 
my concerns for today is the fact that Marsch only has one result that 
was unexpected- a victory at wolves away- and I am not sure how much 
credit he actually deserves for that one?Wins over Norwich and Watford 
are to be expected,  as are defeats v Man city, Chelsea and Arsenal,  so 
it is whether the draws v Southampton,  Palace and Brighton are good 
points or should and would have been better under Bielsa - but as I say 
a pointless debate. All that counts now is what happens today - if we 
stay up I will give Jesse the credit and hope he goes on to better 
things with us, and I will also thank him for protecting Bielsa's legacy 
, if we go down then the blame is to be spread around .
I want us to stay up but as my wife keeps saying " you enjoyed the 
championship,  you will win more, and you will be going to games 
whatever  so it makes little difference " - all true , but fuck me, 
relegation will hurt

Dave
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Re: [LU] Southampton

[Tim Whelan via Leedslist]

I thought that for the free kick Meslier should have been standing in the 
centre of the goal rather than over to the left. He was depending on the wall 
to cover the right side of the goal, but against a free kick taker of 
Ward-Prouse’s quality you can’t rely on that. As it was he got his fingertips 
to the ball, so if his starting point had been a yard or so to the right he 
could have made the save.
-- Original Message --
On  Sunday, 3 Apr, 22 At 09:15, nattan--- via Leedslist 
wrote:
"Is it wrong that all I keep thinking is ' i hope Ward-Prowse gets an injury so he 
cant play on Saturday '" - that was my WhatsApp text to my Leeds mates on Tuesady 
watching England.  How prescient was that 
A pretty poor game and hard to know if it was one point gained or two lost in 
our relegation fight , but Ward-Priwse and his free kick certainly cost us this 
game as without that they never looked like scoring. 
It was a very flat atmosphere throughout,  even the goal , was not subject to 
the 'limbs'we have had recently,  the 2 goals v scum and the winner v Norwich,  
or even jumping round my front room v Wolves. The goal came when Raph just 
managed to keep the ball in and crossed , the keeper got a hand to it but it 
fell to Harrison who seemed to shin it in, certainly not a clean strike.
In boxing they often say it is ' styles that make fights ' thus was the 
opposite in that the styles ( both similar) made it a non fight, or a bore draw 
in this case. 
Once they equalised it had draw written all over it , and the crowd responded 
with apathy , occasionally getting excited or nervous depending on who had the 
ball in attack but generally just waiting for it to be over. 
We had some good points from the game , Cooper managed 90 minutes and looked 
cool and composed throughout,  Rodrigo had another very good game, Joffy showed 
that though he cant pull a rabbit from the hat every game he is definitely a 
real talent,  and perhaps most importantly of all KP was back, getting 25 
minutes or so, not that he did much in that time but hopefully it means he can 
start next week, a real 6 pointer.
With Burnley and Watford losing ( hope the same today for Norwich and Everton)) 
a point may be ok but I would be much happier with such a boring game if we had 
got all 3 
Dave 
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Re: [LU] Arse

[Tim Whelan via Leedslist]

The worst case scenario is that we go down and that Newcastle are one of 
our fellow relegatees. They would have the financial clout to rebuild 
their squad during the summer and would almost certainly grab one of the 
two automatic promotion slots in 2022/3, to leave only one for us to 
fight for.


Tim W.

-- Original Message --
From: "Alec McQueen" 
To: "nat...@sky.com" 
Cc: "leeds list" 
Sent: Monday, 20 Dec, 21 At 03:50
Subject: Re: [LU] Arse
Are there 3 other teams worse than us in this league? I would say yes
(Norwich, Burnley, Newcastle, Watford), BUT what are Newcastle going to
look like from Jan onwards? A hell of a lot better I reckon, and I think
they will pull away. So, we have to do better than Norwich, Burnley and
Watford. Can we do it? Touch and go, and much depends on how and when 
our

injured players return.
Even if we do go down, we have some level of financial muscle with the
parachute payments, but MB will have gone, and who will we have? Do we
promote an MB disciple, and try to get a dynasty going, or throw it all
away and start with another journeyman manager? My vote is the former. 
May

not work, but I think it is worth the risk.
Cheers
Alec

On Sun, 19 Dec 2021 at 22:48, nattan--- via Leedslist 


wrote:
Weird to say that my thought  on leaving the ground was how proud I am 
to

be Leeds . The fans, all game, but especially last 10 minutes and the 5
after it finished showed how we are in fact special . Brighton were 
booed
off after a 0 0 draw with us, I saw Everton players receiving so much 
abuse
from their travelling fans they stopped half way to applauding them , 
scum
fans rushing for the exits with 20mins to go etc, and yet here we were 
1-4
down being hammered following our biggest defeat in living memory and 
yet

90%of fans stayed to the end and beyond with all four stands proudly
singing Bielsas name “ and we all love Leeds” - amazingLike many the 
latest
covid outbreak made me ( or at least my wife) consider if I should even 
go

- we compromised on me staying out of the pub to limit the risk , so I
could easily have come home wishing I had not bothered - instead I was 
so

pleased to have been there not watching on tv
As for the match - we were hammered , with only 4 outfield players being
part of our best XI -  Raph , Forshaw , Dallas and Ayling, with the 
latter
two out of position, it was always going to be hard v a resurgent 
Arsenal.

We made it even harder for ourselves as our experienced players had
nightmares , Klich the main culprit, and we kept giving the ball away.
The only good takeaways on the pitch were Meslier who kept it down to 4
and Gelhardt who has to become a regular starter
We will be stuffed by Liverpool and then come the games that will proove
if we are done or staying up - especially Newcastle and Burnley st home 
,

win them and we will be fine , and if the fans stay behind them as they
were yesterday then with a few players getting fit we can win both
Not much else to say - once again Arsenal put 4 past us like they used 
to

in Thierry Henry’s day, so who cares
“We all love Leeds “ enough said
Dave
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Re: [LU] FA Cup - Hammers away

[Tim Whelan via Leedslist]

I make that the fifth successive FA Cup game in London or further south, 
and of course the other four have all been defeats. Our last win in the 
FA Cup was over Cambridge in the 3rd round in 2018, which was of course 
followed by embarrassment at Sutton in the next round. It's about time 
we won another tie.


-- Original Message --
From: "Alec McQueen" 
To: "Jim Moran" 
Cc: "leedslist@gn.apc.org" ; 
wi...@wignomore.org.uk

Sent: Monday, 6 Dec, 21 At 22:00
Subject: Re: [LU] FA Cup - Hammers away
Hammers will send out their reserves, won't they? If we field a decent
team, we stand a chance.
Cheers
A
On Tue, 7 Dec 2021 at 06:24, Jim Moran  wrote:
Close to getting them again! Seaman’s dream fixture.
On Mon, 6 Dec 2021 at 19:15, Wiggy  wrote:
At least it's not bloody Arsenal for once...

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Re: [LU] Derby in the sh*t again

[Tim Whelan via Leedslist]

It could have been worse for them. If it hadn't been for Sheffield 
Wednesday's points deduction they would have been relegated last season, 
and they would now be in League One with their own points deductions and 
facing relegation to League Two.


-- Original Message --
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To: "leedslist" 
Sent: Tuesday, 16 Nov, 21 At 10:38
Subject: [LU] Derby in the sh*t again
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59288687 


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Re: [LU] Liverpool

[Tim Whelan via Leedslist]

Unfortunately, it was correct that Liverpool's first goal did stand. As 
it was pointed out to me while I was baying for a VAR intervention, 
Salah was behind the ball when it was played across the face of the 
goal, therefore not in an offside position.


As far as Roberts is concerned, his main contribution was to screw a 
shot well wide from a decent position on the edge of the area. Normally 
he sends the ball over the bar from that distance. Whenever he comes on 
for Rodrigo it feels like a change for the sake of making a change, as 
he's not good enough to offer anything different at this level.




-- Original Message --
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To: "n...@6haroldplace.co.uk" 
Cc: "leeds list (leedslist@gn.apc.org)" 
Sent: Monday, 13 Sep, 21 At 10:31
Subject: Re: [LU] Liverpool
Re Rich’s big question and can we play with 2 wingers and Rodrigo - the 
answer is no! I like Rodrigo, good player, but he has neither the 
tactical or defensive nouse to play that role, and I don’t think he’s 
fit enough either. I too would have definitely had Shackleton on in his 
place, and Klich too, although Llorente’s injury scuppered likely 
substitutions.
I’m not going to talk much about Cooper, because we all know he gives it 
all he’s got, but realistically he’s an ageing Championship-level 
defender who keeps getting found out! The only real question is why does 
Bielsa keep picking him knowing that in all probability the same thing 
will happen? My main gripe, re the defence, is Ayling - I thought he was 
heading downhill towards the end of last season - his positional sense 
is poor, his blocking is patchy (another through his legs yesterday), 
but it’s his passing from right-back which are constantly wayward that 
put us under immediate pressure time and again, usually half way into 
our own half. This needs to change. I would have Cody Drameh in at 
right-back now. As for Aylings ‘chance’ - why didn’t he head it?
Hopefully the club will appeal Stuijk’s red card - terrible injury, but 
it wasn’t a bad tackle, just really unlucky. I watched to frame by frame 
- he won the ball, but when he turned to stand he did bring his full 
body-weight down on Elliot’s ankle - totally accidental. The ref clearly 
saw nothing wrong in it initially, but Klopp’s histrionics and the 
severity of the injury got Struijk a red, which seems all wrong.
I thought Firpo did ok - he was up against Salah after all. I’m still 
convinced their first goal shouldn’t have stood - both Salah and Mane 
were offside when the ball came forward, gaining a clear advantage, then 
Mane was off as Salah scored. Liverpools tactic of leaving forwards 
goal-hanging and then playing the linesman really bugs me.
 Finally, will Bielsa learn? He knows we cannot compete with the top 6, 
yet sends the same tactics out on to the pitch whoever we’re playing. We 
could, and probably should have lost by 6/7 goals - bollocks to playing 
our own game, we need some pragmatism against world-class players!
Second finally - if Struijk and Llorente are out on Friday, I hope 
Cresswell is used, and not Ayling at CB - that would be a big error!





On 13 Sep 2021, at 09:44, "n...@6haroldplace.co.uk" 
 wrote:
Yeah, it was a big disappointment…the first half was even enough, 
although I thought we were only just hanging onto their coattails. But 
in the end 0-3 didn’t flatter them.
I’ve not seen any replays, so I don’t know about the sending off. Live, 
it looked like a clean challenge, but then we saw lots of the folk 
around lad running away holding their hands to their mouths, and so knew 
it was a bad injury.
I think in time Bielsa might want to switch Raphinha inside into a no.10 
role, behind Bamford, with Harrison and James on the wings. But there 
has to be better coherence between the full backs and the wingers. 
Ayling has started the season at quite a low level, he seems to be 
struggling…a lot of unforced errors. Cooper can’t be any more than a 
squad player. Llorente is class, I hope the injury is not serious. 
Firpo, I actually think had his best game for us yesterday…whether that 
is good enough long term is another thing.
In midfield, I think Phillips was very good, but can’t do it alone. 
Dallas was curiously absent - or the game passed him by. Oddly after an 
invisible first half, Harrison was having a good 15 minutes when he was 
taken off.
Don’t know what to do with Rodrigo, he has played a lot in that advanced 
midfield role and is not a success there. He has done ok as a centre 
forward, but he is not the same kind of forward as Bamford, and Bielsa 
sees that Bamford brings more to his preferred style of play.
We continue to be grateful for having Meslier in goal. He is a future 
star.

What we need are a couple of wins, to settle the nerves.
The atmosphere in the ground was bouncing.
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On 13 Sep 2021, at 08:40, Richard Walker via Leedslist 
 wrote:
My first PL game for donkeys and what a disappointment it was. Totally 

Re: [LU] Oh they've all gone quiet over there

[Tim Whelan via Leedslist]

I’d love us to have a proper go at FA Cup next season. It’s annoying that the 
way the draw went this season we could have got to the semi-final without 
having to play anyone higher than us in the league. Though obviously with the 
restrictions it wouldn’t have been the greatest season to get to Wembley. Maybe 
next year.
-- Original Message --
On  Tuesday, 11 May, 21 At 12:13, Richard Naef 
wrote:
I'm looking forward to a proper go at one or both of the cups next season, it's 
been so long since we had any interest in either cup after the early rounds.
-Original Message-
From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of t...@3lv.uk
Sent: 11 May 2021 09:56
To: e...@morrish.org
Cc: Leeds List 
Subject: Re: [LU] Oh they've all gone quiet over there
To me, the ONLY downside to this season (Apart from no fans of course) is 
simple; we've lost 4 times to the two most boring teams, scoring no goals in 
those 360 minutes.
The way Wolves and Brighton set up and play, isn't unattractive and is very 
much based on possession - But they both, ultimately, want to try and walk it 
into the net ala Barcelona under Pep. Against teams like this, we clearly 
struggle (Both will finish below us in the League). MB will, I'm sure, be aware 
of this and, hopefully address next season.
Genuinely not bothered about the drubbing at Old Trafford or MOST of the 
defeats this season, other than those 4. Those 12 points would have put us 5th, 
1 point behind Leicester!
Mind you, I (personally) don't want European football yet. If we did I think 
we'd suffer in the same way Wolves have done by overachieving a bit too soon, 
without having the ability to bolster the squad in preparation for the 'rigours 
of success'
Anyway, enough of my bollocks, off back to lurkdom! TTFN
StigOfTheMusingDump

 


 Yes I would agree with that. But to point out poor performances from 
 players is OK I think as long as it it is reasonable (in tone I 
 mean.) Though TBH Michael Brown was effin shit
 

 
 I think it's actually quite rare - this season at least - to be able 
 to spot an individually poor performance that cost us the match. 
 Meslier's fuckups at Arsenal (which he's not repeated), and Alioski 

 giving away the penalty against Brighton stand out*. But it's usually 

 been a collective issue - we've sat too deep and isolated Bamford, for 
 example; or Alioski and Harrison haven't combined well in attack.
 

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Re: [LU] Crawley

[Tim Whelan via Leedslist]

I can think of two more recent managers who took the FA Cup seriously, 
despite their many obvious faults otherwise.



Neil Warnock's finest 90 minutes as Leeds boss was the 2-1 fourth round 
win over Spurs. We were then unlucky to get Man City away in the 5th 
round, when there was plenty of dross still in the competition we could 
have been drawn against instead.


And it's even worth mentioning Steve Evans, who got us past Rotherham 
and Bolton in the first two rounds. We may have gone out at Watford in 
the 5th round with an anaemic display, but at least we did so with 
pretty much a full strength team.


(Rejoins Roger in lurkdom).

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Sent: Monday, 11 Jan, 21 At 12:31
Subject: Re: [LU] Crawley
   Truly, truly awful. None of them seemed to give a flying f**k, and 
the

half time substitutions were a joke surely.
None of our managers since Grayson have shown an ounce of respect 
for

the FA Cup, and IMO that is an absolute disgrace.
Back to lurkdom
Rogerre

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  Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2021 15:29:00 + (UTC)
  From: "nat...@sky.com" 
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  Subject: [LU] Words fail me
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  That was as bad as Newport , Histon, Rochdale, Hereford rolled
  into Casilla must NEVER EVER play for us again!Worry that all 
these

  future stars in the u23s are nothing of the sort - none of them
  impressed in the slightest todayShocking, shambles
  We need to get over it fast and beat Brighton
  Dave

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  Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2021 15:39:32 +
  From: Simon McNally 
  To: "nat...@sky.com" , leeds list
  
  Subject: Re: [LU] Words fail me
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  That was truly dreadful. Casilla reminding people quite how bad 
he

  is.
  Thought this might be a chance for Costa to put in a bit of a
  performance and push for a first team place but no, he was
  anonymous.
  I think it's always tough on the u23s to chick them into a
  disjointed team, but Casey looked awful. Jenkins didn't look 
great

  either but probably fairer to judge him in a more balanced team.
  Disappointed with Phillips, he just strolled through the game,
  Hernandez's passing was way off, especially second half and I 
don't

  think any of the subs did much when they came on.
  I know the league is the priority but I was expecting better than
  that today.
  Let's hope this doesn't derail our season like some abject cup
  performances have in the past.

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  Subject: [LU] Words fail me

  That was as bad as Newport , Histon, Rochdale, Hereford rolled 
into

  Casilla must NEVER EVER play for us again!Worry that all these
  future stars in the u23s are nothing of the sort - none of them
  impressed in the slightest todayShocking, shambles
  We need to get over it fast and beat Brighton
  Dave
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  Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2021 16:00:12 + (UTC)
  From: Richard Walker 
  To: 

Re: [LU] 5 wins

[Tim Whelan via Leedslist]

I'm claiming the win. I intentionally said on Facebook that Bamford 
would stop scoring, to force him to score a goal just to make me look 
like a tit.


-- Original Message --
From: "Peter Castlehouse" 
To: "'Steve Gillen'" ; "'Alec McQueen'" 


Cc: "'Leeds leedslist'" 
Sent: Wednesday, 16 Dec, 20 At 20:17
Subject: Re: [LU] 5 wins
All wrong... I wore my lucky grey dressing gown, which brought us up 
from the Championship, and Alec McQueen - you bloody part-timer!   Call 
yourself a Leeds fan?

Pete C
-Original Message-
No it’s my fault. I didn’t wear my Leeds shirt. If I do they seem to 
fade badly. Against Villa and tonight I was in plain clothes. I claim 
the win.

On 16 Dec 2020, at 20:03, Alec McQueen  wrote:
It is games like this against teams in the lower half of the table that 
suggest we will be OK. 5 wins now, with only 5 more to get. We will get 
there.
Great result after a disappointingly lean run. I know it’s only 
Newcastle, but these are the teams we must beat, and we did it 
handsomely.
I claim the victory was caused by me. I joined the BBC text coverage at 
2-2, and within 15 minutes we were 5-2 up. All mine.

Cheers
Alec
Sent from my iPad
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[LU] Bielsa: the manager behind the myths

[Tim Whelan via Leedslist]

I've just found this on the BBC website:-
Sportsworld - Bielsa: the manager behind the myths - BBC Sounds


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Sportsworld - Bielsa: the manager behind the myths - BBC Sounds

What's it really like to play for the obsessive and demanding Leeds coach 
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Re: [LU] Aha.........

[Tim Whelan via Leedslist]

 
Absolutely correct! Have a Blue Peter badge and go to the top of the class!
Peter Barnes came on as a sub for the last 15 minutes of England's famous 2-1 
defeat in Norway that inspired the greatest piece of football commentary of all 
time. Today we celebrate the 39th anniversary of that game. This was to be the 
last appearance by a Leeds player for England until David Batty made his 
international debut 10 years later.
This was similar to Smith/Phillips, in that the last Leeds appearance for 
England was in our last season in the top flight, and the next after a long gap 
was during our first season back in the top division. And the player making his 
England debut to break the long run was a defensive midfield player.

On Wednesday, 9 September 2020, 03:31:57 BST,  wrote:  
 
 Barnes?


-Original Message-
From: Tim Whelan via Leedslist 
To: Leeds List ; Robert Heath 
Sent: Tue, Sep 8, 2020 05:08 PM
Subject: Re: [LU] Aha.


 Lets have another question. Who was the last Leeds player to represent England 
in the 1980s? 
    On Tuesday, 8 September 2020, 22:02:48 BST, Robert Heath 
 wrote:  
 
 Just read the answer to my own question on some website:

Phillips became the first Leeds star to represent the Three Lions since
Alan Smith back in 2004.
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Re: [LU] Aha.........

[Tim Whelan via Leedslist]

 Lets have another question. Who was the last Leeds player to represent England 
in the 1980s? 
On Tuesday, 8 September 2020, 22:02:48 BST, Robert Heath 
 wrote:  
 
 Just read the answer to my own question on some website:

Phillips became the first Leeds star to represent the Three Lions since
Alan Smith back in 2004.
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Re: [LU] FA Cup. Manchester vs Leeds United. 1951

[Tim Whelan via Leedslist]

 I've made my views known in the comments section.
On Thursday, 13 August 2020, 16:22:40 BST, Richard Naef 
 wrote:  
 
 Defund Pathe!

Couldn't spot King John, but the standard of football was dreadful and we 
didn't score, so I'm guessing he wasn't

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of 
johnbar...@ivycottage.co.uk
Sent: 13 August 2020 14:47
To: 'Leeds List' 
Subject: [LU] FA Cup. Manchester vs Leeds United. 1951

Now that we’re in the same division as Manchester again, I’m just wondering if 
there’s much to dislike about them anymore.

None of their players raise my hackles, Marcus Rashford is positively a 
National Treasure, and the Baby-Faced Assassin is pretty likeable too.

 

Maybe I need some motivation.

Here’s a Pathé Newsreel from 1951:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7D0XLwBgf3k

It’s not the 4-0 scoreline, we’re Second Division to their First after all ***, 
no, it’s the Pathé commentary, it thoroughly winds me up. 

Is it too late to write to them and complain? 

 

*** Although I would expect Richard Walker to come down heavily on the 
goalkeeping, own goal for the first, handling error maybe for the second.

The poor defending from corners seems to be an LU tradition, and I can’t tell 
if John Charles is involved. If he is, I don’t recognise him, and I’d like to 
think if he was playing, he’d help keep the score down.


John

 

 

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[LU] News of an old boy

[Tim Whelan via Leedslist]

I'm watching the stream of the play-off game between Havant and Dartford (I was 
born in Dartford, so I occasionally follow their fortunes).
And in charge of Havant today is none other than Ian Baird, formerly of this 
parish. He's their assistant manager, but is in charge today because their 
manager is serving a touchline ban. 
For those who care about the game (and you probably don't) Havant are 1-0 up at 
half-time, but are down to 10 men when a player swung his leg and didn't even 
connect with his intended target. Not proper violent conduct and very harsh in 
my view, even though it benefits the team I'm supporting.
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[LU] Wigan go into administration

[Tim Whelan via Leedslist]

This might change things a little. My sympathy is mitigated by the fact they 
would have had an extra £30 in they hadn't refused to sell me a ticket when we 
played there on the final day of the Garry Monk season. 
They are away to Brentford on Saturday, and their 12 point deduction will give 
them plenty of relegation danger to worry about. And the article hints they 
might not complete their fixtures. Depending on Saturday's result that could 
well help us in comparison with Brentford, but not with WBA.

BREAKING: Wigan Athletic fall into administration

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BREAKING: Wigan Athletic fall into administration

John McDougall

The Latics were taken over by new owners last month
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Re: [LU] Trivia Question from Heimbane

[Tim Whelan via Leedslist]

 Steph Houghton

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Stephanie Jayne Houghton MBE (/ˈhɔːtən/; born 23 April 1988) is an English 
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On Tuesday, 28 April 2020, 18:12:31 BST,  wrote:  
 
 Yeah - bang on.  It's Steph Houghton.

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of Richard Naef
Sent: 28 April 2020 18:10
To: leeds list (leedslist@gn.apc.org) 
Subject: Re: [LU] Trivia Question from Heimbane

Might it be a Leeds ladies or leeds city player?

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of 
johnbar...@ivycottage.co.uk
Sent: 28 April 2020 13:06
To: 'Leeds List' 
Subject: [LU] Trivia Question from Heimbane

I've been watching a TV series from Norway called "Heimbane".

It's another in the "Female Coach/Male Football Team" genre.

I don't think it's been on British TV, nor on a Netflix-type streaming service, 
and the only subtitles I've found are less than perfect.

 

In Heimbane there's a character called Eddie (played by Per Jan Vinje) who is 
the club's groundsman and prop master.

He's also a very enthusiastic Leeds United fan and appears in every episode 
wearing a different Leeds shirt.

In the episode I watched last night, he posed a trivia question to the team.

No answer was provided, so I'm wondering if anyone here can figure it out.

 

Here goes, pasted from the subtitles:

 

00:12:51,560 --> 00:12:56,780

Question 14:

what former Leeds player

 

00:12:56,780 --> 00:13:02,820

Quite a few Leeds-related questions...

- The kids must learn.

 

00:13:02,820 --> 00:13:11,860

Ok... what former Leeds player

played also for Sunderland, Arsenal and Manchester City?

 

00:13:11,860 --> 00:13:15,900

It's a trick question.

 

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Re: [LU] FIFA 20...

[Tim Whelan via Leedslist]

 Did FIFA show any Leeds fans getting thrown out for celebrating the goals 
while in one of the 'home' stands?
On Monday, 16 March 2020, 02:11:20 GMT, Jeremy Adams 
 wrote:  
 
 I actually watched the game, Bamford was outstanding, had a couple of other 
decent chances. i.e. totally unrealistic. Our build up play was very typical 
though and Ayling seemed to be everywhere so some things were lifelike.


Jeremy


From: Leedslist  on behalf of 
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Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2020 5:47 PM
To: 'leeds list' 
Subject: Re: [LU] FIFA 20...

And thus it is proved that letting FIFA decide the rest of the season is not a 
valid idea - as if Bamford would have score 2 today in real life!

Nigel
(the increasingly locked-down Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of Simon McNally via 
Leedslist
Sent: 15 March 2020 21:42
To: tim.whelan ; James A. Lundon @ Yahoo! via Leedslist 

Subject: Re: [LU] FIFA 20...






        3-1 Leeds. 2 for Bamford, free kick from Harrison



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Did we win?Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. Original message 
From: "James A. Lundon @ Yahoo! via Leedslist"  Date: 15/03/2020  19:29 
 (GMT+00:00) To: LeedsList  Subject: [LU] FIFA 20... Leeds attract 50,000 
online viewers with FIFA 20 simulation of Cardiff match after coronavirus 
postponement| | | |  |  | | || |  | Leeds attract 50,000 online viewers with 
FIFA 20 simulation of Cardiff m...Leeds United tackled their postponed 
Championship game against Cardiff by simulating the game on FIFA 20 instead. | 
| |Am I the only person hereabouts who has NEVER played FIFA ever?In 
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Re: [LU] Hull

[Tim Whelan via Leedslist]

 He's already managed my favourite club in the Spanish league, in the shape of 
Athletic Bilbao. (Choosing my words carefully so I don't call them a 'Spanish 
club', in view of their Basque following). 
I've never been there, but I've 'supported' them in Spanish football since 
1982, when I read that during the World Cup of that year the England fans had 
got on well with the Basques when all 3 first round group games were played in 
Bilbao, but not with the Spaniards once England got through to the second round 
mini-group. So it was doubly glorious to see Bielsa's Athletic side outclass 
Man United in the 2012 Europa League, beating the red scum home and away.
https://thesefootballtimes.co/2019/07/09/how-marcelo-bielsa-turned-athletic-club-into-one-of-europes-most-exciting-machines/

On Sunday, 1 March 2020, 16:21:51 GMT, Matt Anderson 
 wrote:  
 
 It’s not really but if I had a favourite Spanish club i’d want bielsa to 
manage it 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 1 Mar 2020, at 15:29, Scott1cairns1  wrote:
> 
> Well that’s cold frickin comfort 
> 
> Best regards,Scott. 
> 
>> On 1 Mar 2020, at 15:21, Matt Anderson  wrote:
>> 
>> I heard the betis thing too. Luckily my wife used to live in Seville and 
>> spend a fair bit of time there and Betis games are great! Proper old school 
>> atmosphere. Sevilla is like  watching arsenal at emirates, totally dull. If 
>> the worst happened that would give me a modicum of happiness 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 29 Feb 2020, at 17:22, John Lee via Leedslist  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Great result, and despite a pretty frantic first half, the result was what 
>>> we deserved ( and bizarrely what I’d tipped pre-match) - in fact 7 or 8 
>>> would have been a fairer result.
>>> 
>>> Harrison was excellent today, bar a couple of overhit crosses - he never, 
>>> ever, stops running! Ditto Klich - in the post match interview (he was 
>>> Sky’s MOTM) he did admit to being tired! 
>>> 
>>> As for Meslier - 4 botched passes out of goal, but no rash dashes out, 
>>> caught everything that came his way and was a calming influence, on me at 
>>> least! 
>>> 
>>> One slight irritation is Ayling’s new found ‘skill’ of falling over the 
>>> very microsecond anyone brushes him. I can’t say I like it, but it’s how 
>>> football is I suppose?
>>> 
>>> Felt very sorry for Bamford with Roberts’ 2 goals - maybe he’s more of a 
>>> finisher than Bamford, but Bamford does put in a proverbial shift. He 
>>> desperately needs a few goals though!
>>> 
>>> Fulham result aside, not a bad day!
>>> 
>>> One thing I hadn’t heard was if Leeds go up Marcello will stay, but if we 
>>> fail he’s going to Real Betis in Seville. Not heard that before.
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
> On 29 Feb 2020, at 16:18, nattan--- via Leedslist  
> wrote:
 
 Just what the doctor orderedAnother clean sheet to give Meslier confidence 
  , I thought he mainly did well and looked very composed.  Also for once s 
 scoreline that reflected our overall dominance.  Ok we were very lucky 
 with the first goal but just as unlucky when Pablo hit the woodwork 
 minutes laterFirst half was poor but once we stepped up a few gears we 
 were unstoppable. Harrison dead unlucky twice and their keeper their man 
 of the match whilst conceding 4, says it all.However poor they were and 
 the fact it was a reserve team does not matter, we put them to the sword
 Big thing now is can Tyler stay fit ? With him and Big Kev on the bench we 
 can either rest Bamford or bring on someone to put the ball in the net if 
 it continues to not quite work for him
 Brilliant day and with a lot of bottom teams to play it is all in our own 
 hands
 Dave 
 
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Re: [LU] LU: Tonight’s Game

[Tim Whelan via Leedslist]

 And while we're doing requests, does anyone know of any good pubs to watch the 
game in Slough? I'm now working down here on a 12 month contract, and 
discovered last night that 'Sky Go' had decided to stop working on my laptop.
On Wednesday, 26 February 2020, 16:04:09 GMT, Mick Robinson (Gmail) 
 wrote:  
 
 In Rotterdam tonight, anyone think there is a chance of seeing the game here 
in any bar?

Mick

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Re: [LU] shoot rich and wap

[Tim Whelan via Leedslist]

 I refer the honourable gentleman to this shot from Alioski from outside the 
box, this season...

Huddersfield 0-2 Leeds United Highlights Goals


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On Sunday, 16 February 2020, 18:48:55 GMT, seanscribe--- via Leedslist 
 wrote:  
 
 I'm not so sure I want our players trying potshots from outside the box. Very, 
very few of them seem to have the ability to hit the target from there. Dallas 
and Alioski are major offenders - each of them is good for at least one shot 
from outside the box that flies over the bar each game. I'm not sure either of 
them have even hit the target from that range this season, let alone scored. 
I'd leave it to Pablo, at most. What we're not good at doing is shooting on 
sight from inside the box - Costa had an opportunity to do that yesterday and 
passed instead. Bamford sometimes does the same, when he's not shooting tamely 
at the keeper.
Cheers!
Sean

-Original Message-
From: N If 
To: leedslist 
Sent: Sun, Feb 16, 2020 9:42 am
Subject: [LU] shoot rich and wap

interested that Slavan Bilic this week told WBA to start shooting from
outside the box due to their diminishing 'efficiency'.  Seemed that really
only our full backs (and CFs) were keen to have potshots, and reasonably
close to target. Was everyone else blocked off? Are we coached to keep
passing till a clear chance emerges? are the others getting a bit scared to
miss?

read a report masquerading under the name of Rich Walker - what have you
done with the real RW? (good report - essential reading as always and great
to see you pleased with the team!).Did you hear the Robins commentator
claim Bill's goal was how a Centre Forward should seize his opportunities?

Betty's What'sApp link told me to go away.  Is there a magic trick?

Cheers
Niffit
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[LU] Millwall v Fulham

[Tim Whelan via Leedslist]

I've been watching this on Sky, as Fulham would of course go above us with a 
win. May the lord forgive me for supporting Millwall for one night only, even 
in these circumstances.
It's a cracking game so far. Milosovic given all the space in the world to give 
Fulham the lead, then there was a truly shocking decision in our favour. 
Millwall equalised with a goal at least two yards offside. It must have helped 
that the linesman had Millwall's worst bunch of baboons right behind him. Then 
Millwall missed a penalty. Why couldn't they do that against us?
1-1 at half time.
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Re: [LU] Augustin

[Tim Whelan via Leedslist]

 Viduka had a big arse. Which proved useful one day when he turned his back on 
the West Ham keeper who was trying to clear a backpass. Inevitably he found 
Viduka's arse much too large an obstacle to get the ball round, leaving Viduka 
the simple task of turning round to put the ball into the net.
On Wednesday, 12 February 2020, 12:42:06 GMT, Robert Heath 
 wrote:  
 
 He certainly does have a big arse. Is he unfit, or does he just have a big
arse? Jimmy Floyd and Yeboah also had big arses. (So did Fred Trueman.) I
wonder if he can hit (bowl) a ball like they could?
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Re: [LU] Brum

[Tim Whelan via Leedslist]

 While the game was on I was travelling back from spending Christmas week with 
my mum, and once I was back I thought I might as well avoid the score until I 
saw the highlights on Quest. Can you just imagine intensity of having that 
roller-coaster condensed into a couple of minutes without knowing the result? 
I was sitting head in hands when the showed their very late equaliser to make 
it 4-4, thinking we'd thrown it away again, then...hang on, they're showing 
another Leeds attack...
On Sunday, 29 December 2019, 17:13:28 GMT, nat...@sky.com  
wrote:  
 
 Still buzzing What a gameAll our faults on show - cant defend corners crosses 
or set pieces but also all our strengths,  resilience,  heart and spirit and 
the ability to,find a way Tremendous game for excitement 
Other results better then we could have hoped,  shock,defeat for west brom, 
Sheffield wed, Preston and to an extent Bristol 
Top of league at the end of the decade- according to a mate we have done that 
every decade since the 80s ?
Dave

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Re: [LU] I'm sorry to go on about this.........

[Tim Whelan via Leedslist]

 

On Sunday, 22 December 2019, 22:51:08 GMT, Robert Heath 
 wrote:  
 
 .but when are the bloody FA going to come up with a verdict on
Casilla?

Every bloody racist incident that happens now (and it looks like there was
another one today)is going to add a few games onto his ban.
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Re: [LU] Promotion

[Tim Whelan via Leedslist]

 And of course, it depends on the distribution of points among the other teams. 
Last season we ended up with 3 teams breaking away and chasing 2 automatic 
spots, so by definition somebody had to finish 3rd with a relatively high 
points total.
At the moment we have 2 teams breaking away, with none of those in the pack 
below showing much consistency, this midweek especially. If that continues 
(touch wood!) then we won't need that high a points total to secure 2nd place. 
On Thursday, 12 December 2019, 17:25:28 GMT,  wrote: 
 
 
 I know what you mean Richard - it does feel like that.

But the cold facts are that at this point last season there has actually been 
about 20% more draws than this year (79 versus 66)

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of Robert Heath
Sent: 12 December 2019 17:12
To: Richard Naef 
Cc: Leeds List 
Subject: Re: [LU] Promotion

I have a probably irrational feeling that this season (even though it would be 
entirely uncharacteristic of Leeds to benefit this way of course) the number of 
points needed for 2nd might be a little lower. My reason for this is that I 
sense there have been an above average number fo draws in our division this 
year...and every time there is a draw, 1 point is sucked out of the system, 
never to be replaced.

In the old days, we used to have stattoes on this list who would have been able 
to confirm a) if there have been more draws than usual, and b) if that can lead 
to a lower points total needed for promotion. But in their absence, I suppose 
I'll have to just keep on with the tarot cards and the voodoo dolls.

On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 11:45 PM Richard Naef < 
rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk> wrote:

> We're half way there! , we only have to be the same terrible passers, 
> useless finishers and shit corner takers as we have been so far and 
> we'll be promoted with 4 games to go!
>
> Then relegated by Xmas
>
> Sent from my Mobile.
>
> 
> From: Leedslist  on behalf of Nicholas 
> Armit via Leedslist 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2019 9:49:08 PM
> To: Leeds List 
> Subject: [LU] Promotion
>
> I believe that 92 points usually guarantees promotion (?) If that is a 
> good target we only need 15 more wins out of 25 games to go up.
> Nick
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Re: [LU] Fwd: This year vs same time last

[Tim Whelan via Leedslist]

 This time last year we were about to embark on a run of seven consecutive 
wins, so we've a bit of work to do to maintain the comparison with 2018/19.
On Tuesday, 12 November 2019, 07:06:49 GMT, Robert Heath 
 wrote:  
 
 In contrast to that excellent statistical analysisI have a
feeling that there have been more draws in this league this year, and since
each draw removes 1 point from the system I am hoping that the automatic
promotion target might be a little lower than it has been.

This of course goes against the immutable law of the universe that
everything has to be harder for Leeds United to achieve than it is for any
other club, so it's probably best ignored.

On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 9:36 PM Brendan McWilliams <
brendan_mcwilli...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> 
> From: Brendan McWilliams 
> Sent: Monday, 11 November 2019, 21:08
> To: Leedslist
> Subject: This year vs same time last
>
> Hi all,
>
> Had a peruse of Soccerstats this morning - and unless I was looking at it
> wrong - comparing this point of the season vs last year we've played a game
> less (16 vs 17) and have a point more.
>
> W9 D4 L3 so far vs W8 D6 L3 as at Nov 10th.
>
> 1pt more and a game less - not bad, not bad at all.
>
> It's all about getting to 89 of course.
>
> BMW
>
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Re: [LU] Tonight's results

[Tim Whelan via Leedslist]

 But it's getting very tight below us now, with 10th placed Charlton only three 
points behind. Even QPR have sneaked into contention when I wasn't looking. So 
we need a few wins to get ahead of the pack.


On Wednesday, 23 October 2019, 22:54:01 BST, Richard Naef 
 wrote:  
 
 


>There is a god and he wears white.

She.
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Re: [LU] Long ramble mainly on MB and how rubbish we aren't (corrections)

[Tim Whelan via Leedslist]

 Would we be better off creating fewer chances but being more likely to score 
from those chances we do create?
On Wednesday, 23 October 2019, 06:19:18 BST, N If  
wrote:  
 
 ops, MB quotes were not formatted correctly.  If you are interested
here's how they should've been with MB's statements more clearly.

Marcelo has talked in the past about playing both Bamford and Eddie would
reduce our dominance and the number of created chances by removing a
midfield player. After the game last nightI will quote from LeedsLive
transcript:

""They can play together. They should play one behind the other. This
player will be Bamford, naturally. Take this kind of decision you can take
in two different ways. For one clear need of the team, or because you are
convinced they can play together and combine movement between them. We
never had proof of this kind of combination in our training. Nketiah is not
with us in the international break, because we play twice a week. In the
week, when we prepare there are few chances to try these things. The other
reason is when you have a series of bad results and you have to find a
different solution. That didn’t happen. I think all these around Bamford
and Nketiah doesn’t help either of them. Nketiah has to make the function
to try to change the course of the match when we are losing and he’s not
playing. Bamford appears responsible for Nketiah not playing.""

Seems fair comment that they haven't had a chance to work out the game in
practice, and we know how MB values training, practice and players
confidently knowing what to do (and we have plenty of evidence of the
fruits of that attitude).  And in defence of starting Bamford, when they
were swapped at half time, we struggled to dominate without PB and EN
scarcely got a chance, so it would suggest that learning how to play with
Eddie rather than PB could need some work first.  Earlier

He also interestingly said:

""When you have more than one option for the team, it’s never a problem.
It’s two solutions for one problem. I try to manage this. When you manage
this, this fact had some difficulties the supporters cannot see. It’s
natural people argue with my decision because they don’t have all the
reasons I have. Bamford is a great player and Eddie Nketiah is a great
player as well. I am forced to make both of them a success this year
because if not I am not going to take advantage. If one has success I will
not be able to take advantage of the other one. This process lasts nine
month and we have 46 matches or 50 matches. We are in the 25 per cent of
the competition. We have time in the future so I can find a way both of
them will shine. If this doesn’t happen it’s not going to be a mistake of
mine. In the last press conference I said if Nketiah is not a success here
it’s my fault. It’s the same with Patrick. I am trying to make this work.""
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Re: [LU] Perhaps.....

[Tim Whelan via Leedslist]

 Steve Evans is now gainfully employed as manager of Gillingham. And an 
opposing manager recently commented that for Gillingham fans, watching what 
happens in his dugout is far more entertaining than anything his team produce 
on the pitch.
On Sunday, 6 October 2019, 21:48:32 BST, Richard Naef 
 wrote:  
 
 Loses this w/e for Bielsa, Guardiola, pochettcino but Bruce winning. Maybe 
these fancy pants foreign experts are wrong, we'd be better casting ourselves 
adrift and depending on British managers with British values? Is Steve Evans 
available?

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Re: [LU] Beradi

[Tim Whelan via Leedslist]

 It's only a one game suspension for a 'professional foul'. But the club have 
announced that they will appeal against it, and so they should.
On Saturday, 5 October 2019, 19:30:52 BST, Nicholas Armit via Leedslist 
 wrote:  
 
 Is that three games suspension or just one if it is for the last man?
Dreadful decision either way. In fact three dreadful decisions...the dive, the 
red and the missed penalty at the other end.
Nick
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[LU] Neil Harris resigns

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Neil Harris has just resigned as Millwall manager. Whoever said they were 
rubbish last night  (I didn't see that game myself) must have been right.
Not sure if this will help us on Saturday or not.
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Re: [LU] spare ticket

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 Are you doing the same for Millwall?
On Friday, 27 September 2019, 17:40:10 BST, Hedley Shaw 
 wrote:  
 
 We live in Greenwich and are going tomorrow but despite Gold Membership 
couldn't tickets from LUFC allocation so will sitting quietly in the Valley 
East Stand.

Hedley

On 27/09/2019, 17:15, "Leedslist on behalf of Matt Anderson" 
 wrote:

    You could all come round to mine as I live in greenwich 10 min from ground  
but I’m away in Senegal at moment
    
    Sent from my iPhone
    
    > On 27 Sep 2019, at 15:02, Nicholas Armit via Leedslist 
 wrote:
    > 
    > Oh god yes silly me! :-)
    > Maybe I could kip in my old haunt in East Dulwich.
    > Nick
    >    On Friday, September 27, 2019, 10:59:45 AM EDT, Tim Whelan 
 wrote:  
    > 
    >  It wouldn't take quite as long as that, seeing as we're away to 
Charlton. So you could spare yourself the 2 hours from Kings Cross to Leeds, 
and go from Charing Cross to Charlton instead. Unless you want to go to the 
beamback in the Centenary Pavillion at Elland Road. 
    >    On Friday, 27 September 2019, 14:20:54 BST, Nicholas Armit via 
Leedslist  wrote:  
    > 
    >  Let me see...
    > Drive to Detroit 1.5 hoursPlane to London 8 hoursHeathrow to Kings Cross 
90 minsKings Cross to Leeds 2 hours
    > Might be able to make it!
    > Nick
    >    On Friday, September 27, 2019, 08:37:44 AM EDT, kevin leizer 
 wrote:  
    > 
    > 
    > If anyone on the list is interested I have a spare ticket for tomorrow in 
the Home end. Please email me offlist if interested.
    > 
    > Kevin
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Re: [LU] spare ticket

[Tim Whelan via Leedslist]

 It wouldn't take quite as long as that, seeing as we're away to Charlton. So 
you could spare yourself the 2 hours from Kings Cross to Leeds, and go from 
Charing Cross to Charlton instead. Unless you want to go to the beamback in the 
Centenary Pavillion at Elland Road. 
On Friday, 27 September 2019, 14:20:54 BST, Nicholas Armit via Leedslist 
 wrote:  
 
  Let me see...
Drive to Detroit 1.5 hoursPlane to London 8 hoursHeathrow to Kings Cross 90 
minsKings Cross to Leeds 2 hours
Might be able to make it!
Nick
    On Friday, September 27, 2019, 08:37:44 AM EDT, kevin leizer 
 wrote:  
 
 
If anyone on the list is interested I have a spare ticket for tomorrow in the 
Home end. Please email me offlist if interested.

Kevin
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Re: [LU] LU: No comments on our 4-0 thumping by our dear friends....

[Tim Whelan via Leedslist]

We did have quite a bit of possession and at times looked quite good going 
forward, but as ever there was no end product. Here are my thoughts in a bit 
more detail:-

Man U give Leeds a lesson in finishing - Leeds United News


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On ‎Friday‎, ‎19‎ ‎July‎ ‎2019‎ ‎22‎:‎29‎:‎36‎ ‎BST, David Smail 
 wrote:  
 
 Had the score been the other way around, I expect there would have been a
ton of posts. It could be said that "It's only a friendly"  but I suspect,
given the rivalry, team selection  and being so close to the start of the
season, both teams were seriously out to win. In the end, we were given a
lesson - I didn't see any of the match - did we come close to anything
positive?  Perhaps the 2nd tier for another season is not such a bad thing
after all. 

 

Dave

 

 

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Re: [LU] Milwall

[Tim Whelan via Leedslist]

 

On Sunday, 17 March 2019, 14:44:58 GMT, Nicholas Armit via Leedslist 
 wrote:  
 
 Harris's head is on my tv, horrible sight. Must beat them, that is a 
"must-win" game now I would say.
Nick
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[LU] Any spares for Ipswich?

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I'll be the first to get the begging bowl out and ask if anyone who is at the 
head of the queue in the 'attendance tracker' scheme is unable to go and is 
prepared to get a ticket for someone else. You have to have been to 6 aways 
this season to qualify as 'loyal' and the annoying thing is that I would have 
been to more than this number had I been able to get tickets for several other 
games that I wanted to go to earlier in the season.
I've already committed myself to spending that bank holiday weekend in that 
part of the country, and declined a wedding invitation in order to get there. 
This was on the assumption that my mate down there who is on the Ipswich 
database would be able to get me a ticket. But due to the restrictions Ipswich 
have imposed for this game (the strictest I've ever seen) he's only been able 
to get one ticket for himself, no extras. He's asking around, but isn't hopeful 
of getting another.
So if anyone can get a spare they are willing to part with, please keep me in 
mind.
Tim W.
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Re: [LU] Bielsa Disciple #1

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 It's being televised in 67 different countries, but the UK isn't one of them, 
so I can't answer the question about why the kick-off had to be moved. Perhaps 
if we get another away tie in the fourth round next year, those of us who can't 
get tickets for the game can all have a trip to France to watch it on TV.

What TV channel is QPR v Leeds United on?


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On Sunday, 6 January 2019, 10:59:07 GMT, Richard Walker via Leedslist 
 wrote:  
 
 Is the match on some sports channel today ? And if not why is it on a Sunday ?

> On 5 Jan 2019, at 23:50, Richard Naef  wrote:
> 
> I doubt if any spurts fans are complaining tho, unlike our lot.
> 
> Sent from my mobile
> 
> 
> From: Leedslist  on behalf of Robert Heath 
> 
> Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2019 10:17:45 AM
> To: Leeds List
> Subject: [LU] Bielsa Disciple #1
> 
> “Maybe we are different to everyone else, we always like to be positive,”
> Mauricio Pochettino said. “I don’t think it was a risk at all to send Harry
> on for a few minutes. Strikers like to score goals and he got one. We take
> all the competitions we are in seriously and I also think you need to show
> respect to the supporters when you are away from home. Some of the people
> who paid money to see the game probably did so in the hope they might see
> Harry Kane in action.”
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