Re: New project
looks like a good thing perhaps you can make a few of these things and sell them Bill - Original Message - From: curt george To: Legacy Google group Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 7:37 AM Subject: Fw: New project Hello Everyone. Its been a crazy couple of weeks around here for me. Christmas is coming! What make things worse is I have a lot of projects to get done, besides the normal holiday stuff. I will be posting pictures of my new puppet stage in a day or two. What this is, Is a quick change directional gear changer For my Legacy. (This is the main reason that I have not been posting in the mornings, I've been going to work at 3 am to work on this, every day last week.) I need to make a way to change directional feed on my Legacy with out taking everything apart.(TIME IS MONEY, OR JUST TIME WASTED! in my case) It is a simple concept. swing an extra gear into the duplex gear to change direction. but As most simple things go, it was not quite that easy, My first attempt used the gears form the original directional gear sets that legacy makes. The problem was distance between the gears, I could not get a large gear and a small gear to mesh with all the gear settings that my legacy uses, if I made it side by side like the right handed set the legacy uses, I did not have enough room for some of the larger pitch or drive gears, and if I went smaller, then the smaller gears would not touch with in the gear adjustment. As is said, (I think I did?) this set works!!! ;-) But I can see some minor problems with this set-up, One namely the clamp that Im using to control the gears movement. The lock position is good, but when not locked the clamp could move if bumped.( that would be nasty! both gears touching at the same time, I don't want to think about the possible damage that would cause!) I will work on a new clamping lock to start with, and if that doesn't work I will remove the clamp and add a screw locking adjustment. (More to come on that!) Thanks to Big Tim on this project, The idea was mine ( I think??? ) first. but it was Tim's gear's that realy saved My day. I bought a number of gears form Tim a while ago. Anyhow like I said earlier the gear size was the problem, so what I did was use Legacy's single (60T) gear and one of Tim's 72T gears to make the changer work. First I needed to drill and press in a precisions gear into the 72T gear. (that was fun, and not as hard as you might think.More on that topic latter.) Then I need to make the SS guard, and make a bracket to hold the hole set up. the bracket needed to be rectangle in shape to hold the locking mechanism. A slot needed to be added for the adjustment lock on the Legacys gear pivit arm set up,and a pivot point need to be drilled for my gear changer. Most of the measurements came from the Legacy directional gear set, with one difference being to position of the hole compared to the original, the hole (pivot point) I made a little lower, Thinking that It would fix the problems I had on earlier attempt. The ark of the Duplex gear had to be compensated for, something that I did not think of on my first attempt, (using the smaller gear.) Woops! I need to go. (Christmas stuff! ) Here are the pictures. Please let me know what you think? If you have any incites, Please let me know. have a good day! ;-) C.A.G. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.36/2465 - Release Date: 10/28/09 09:34:00 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en.
Re: New project
Thanks Bill But No way! If you would like, I can help you, or anyone do it for there self's, That's not why Im here. Besides that,There is to much liability in that kind of business, combined with the cost of material plus the equipment needed , I just don't see any way to make a profit. But on the other hand! If everyone out there can do it for there self's,( with perhaps a little guidance.) then the products that you all will make will then be true works of art.You cant buy that with money! ($$$) ;-) Please forgive me, Im very tired. This project is for free to those who want to make it. Now then! If I can make this OT lathe attachment, or my quick acting gear box for the legacy, then just perhaps there can be some money exchanged of those deals. (or not!) as I said, Its late. ;-) have a good night. C.A.G. - Original Message - From: Bill Bulkeley To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 8:28 PM Subject: Re: New project looks like a good thing perhaps you can make a few of these things and sell them Bill - Original Message - From: curt george To: Legacy Google group Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 7:37 AM Subject: Fw: New project Hello Everyone. Its been a crazy couple of weeks around here for me. Christmas is coming! What make things worse is I have a lot of projects to get done, besides the normal holiday stuff. I will be posting pictures of my new puppet stage in a day or two. What this is, Is a quick change directional gear changer For my Legacy. (This is the main reason that I have not been posting in the mornings, I've been going to work at 3 am to work on this, every day last week.) I need to make a way to change directional feed on my Legacy with out taking everything apart.(TIME IS MONEY, OR JUST TIME WASTED! in my case) It is a simple concept. swing an extra gear into the duplex gear to change direction. but As most simple things go, it was not quite that easy, My first attempt used the gears form the original directional gear sets that legacy makes. The problem was distance between the gears, I could not get a large gear and a small gear to mesh with all the gear settings that my legacy uses, if I made it side by side like the right handed set the legacy uses, I did not have enough room for some of the larger pitch or drive gears, and if I went smaller, then the smaller gears would not touch with in the gear adjustment. As is said, (I think I did?) this set works!!! ;-) But I can see some minor problems with this set-up, One namely the clamp that Im using to control the gears movement. The lock position is good, but when not locked the clamp could move if bumped.( that would be nasty! both gears touching at the same time, I don't want to think about the possible damage that would cause!) I will work on a new clamping lock to start with, and if that doesn't work I will remove the clamp and add a screw locking adjustment. (More to come on that!) Thanks to Big Tim on this project, The idea was mine ( I think??? ) first. but it was Tim's gear's that realy saved My day. I bought a number of gears form Tim a while ago. Anyhow like I said earlier the gear size was the problem, so what I did was use Legacy's single (60T) gear and one of Tim's 72T gears to make the changer work. First I needed to drill and press in a precisions gear into the 72T gear. (that was fun, and not as hard as you might think.More on that topic latter.) Then I need to make the SS guard, and make a bracket to hold the hole set up. the bracket needed to be rectangle in shape to hold the locking mechanism. A slot needed to be added for the adjustment lock on the Legacys gear pivit arm set up,and a pivot point need to be drilled for my gear changer. Most of the measurements came from the Legacy directional gear set, with one difference being to position of the hole compared to the original, the hole (pivot point) I made a little lower, Thinking that It would fix the problems I had on earlier attempt. The ark of the Duplex gear had to be compensated for, something that I did not think of on my first attempt, (using the smaller gear.) Woops! I need to go. (Christmas stuff! ) Here are the pictures. Please let me know what you think? If you have any incites, Please let me know. have a good day! ;-) C.A.G. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. Internal
Re: New project
that's ok it was just a thought I personally don't want one im happy changing the old way but others might want to make them selves one Bill - Original Message - From: curt george To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 1:49 PM Subject: Re: New project Thanks Bill But No way! If you would like, I can help you, or anyone do it for there self's, That's not why Im here. Besides that,There is to much liability in that kind of business, combined with the cost of material plus the equipment needed , I just don't see any way to make a profit. But on the other hand! If everyone out there can do it for there self's,( with perhaps a little guidance.) then the products that you all will make will then be true works of art.You cant buy that with money! ($$$) ;-) Please forgive me, Im very tired. This project is for free to those who want to make it. Now then! If I can make this OT lathe attachment, or my quick acting gear box for the legacy, then just perhaps there can be some money exchanged of those deals. (or not!) as I said, Its late. ;-) have a good night. C.A.G. - Original Message - From: Bill Bulkeley To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 8:28 PM Subject: Re: New project looks like a good thing perhaps you can make a few of these things and sell them Bill - Original Message - From: curt george To: Legacy Google group Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 7:37 AM Subject: Fw: New project Hello Everyone. Its been a crazy couple of weeks around here for me. Christmas is coming! What make things worse is I have a lot of projects to get done, besides the normal holiday stuff. I will be posting pictures of my new puppet stage in a day or two. What this is, Is a quick change directional gear changer For my Legacy. (This is the main reason that I have not been posting in the mornings, I've been going to work at 3 am to work on this, every day last week.) I need to make a way to change directional feed on my Legacy with out taking everything apart.(TIME IS MONEY, OR JUST TIME WASTED! in my case) It is a simple concept. swing an extra gear into the duplex gear to change direction. but As most simple things go, it was not quite that easy, My first attempt used the gears form the original directional gear sets that legacy makes. The problem was distance between the gears, I could not get a large gear and a small gear to mesh with all the gear settings that my legacy uses, if I made it side by side like the right handed set the legacy uses, I did not have enough room for some of the larger pitch or drive gears, and if I went smaller, then the smaller gears would not touch with in the gear adjustment. As is said, (I think I did?) this set works!!! ;-) But I can see some minor problems with this set-up, One namely the clamp that Im using to control the gears movement. The lock position is good, but when not locked the clamp could move if bumped.( that would be nasty! both gears touching at the same time, I don't want to think about the possible damage that would cause!) I will work on a new clamping lock to start with, and if that doesn't work I will remove the clamp and add a screw locking adjustment. (More to come on that!) Thanks to Big Tim on this project, The idea was mine ( I think??? ) first. but it was Tim's gear's that realy saved My day. I bought a number of gears form Tim a while ago. Anyhow like I said earlier the gear size was the problem, so what I did was use Legacy's single (60T) gear and one of Tim's 72T gears to make the changer work. First I needed to drill and press in a precisions gear into the 72T gear. (that was fun, and not as hard as you might think.More on that topic latter.) Then I need to make the SS guard, and make a bracket to hold the hole set up. the bracket needed to be rectangle in shape to hold the locking mechanism. A slot needed to be added for the adjustment lock on the Legacys gear pivit arm set up,and a pivot point need to be drilled for my gear changer. Most of the measurements came from the Legacy directional gear set, with one difference being to position of the hole compared to the original, the hole (pivot point) I made a little lower, Thinking that It would fix the problems I had on earlier attempt. The ark of the Duplex gear had to be compensated for, something that I did not think of on my first attempt, (using the smaller gear.) Woops! I need to go. (Christmas stuff! ) Here are the pictures. Please let me know what you think? If you have any incites, Please let me know. have a good day! ;-) C.A.G. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group.
Re: Legacy site
That's sad to hear, but I know Steve was recently looking to buy a revo, maybe the two of you can hook up. -Tim - Original Message - From: radman To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 7:25 PM Subject: Re: Legacy site I've got so little time that I've not been able to use my REVO in months. Sadly, I may be selling it due to economic conditions in our household. Tom Would anyone be willing to take over the Legacy section of my site? I haven't had the time to post the new things members have come up with. It can be moved to your site or left on mine. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en.
Re: New project
Hi All, In my case, my Legacy did not come with both left and right hand spiral gears. I had to buy my left handed one. I need one for my second machine but I'm in no rush. Legacy took the gears off of their website, but I think they only cost $65 for them. Curt's version would be really handy. Frankly I don't think there is much demand, but I agree with Curt that it is a pain to swap the gears. I was thinking of using a thumb screw and only two locations for the gears to be located in. This would prevent any accidental engagements of the gears. If anyone is interested, write me an email off list and I will bump up the priority of making something. -Tim - Original Message - From: Bill Bulkeley To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 5:28 PM Subject: Re: New project looks like a good thing perhaps you can make a few of these things and sell them Bill - Original Message - From: curt george To: Legacy Google group Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 7:37 AM Subject: Fw: New project Hello Everyone. Its been a crazy couple of weeks around here for me. Christmas is coming! What make things worse is I have a lot of projects to get done, besides the normal holiday stuff. I will be posting pictures of my new puppet stage in a day or two. What this is, Is a quick change directional gear changer For my Legacy. (This is the main reason that I have not been posting in the mornings, I've been going to work at 3 am to work on this, every day last week.) I need to make a way to change directional feed on my Legacy with out taking everything apart.(TIME IS MONEY, OR JUST TIME WASTED! in my case) It is a simple concept. swing an extra gear into the duplex gear to change direction. but As most simple things go, it was not quite that easy, My first attempt used the gears form the original directional gear sets that legacy makes. The problem was distance between the gears, I could not get a large gear and a small gear to mesh with all the gear settings that my legacy uses, if I made it side by side like the right handed set the legacy uses, I did not have enough room for some of the larger pitch or drive gears, and if I went smaller, then the smaller gears would not touch with in the gear adjustment. As is said, (I think I did?) this set works!!! ;-) But I can see some minor problems with this set-up, One namely the clamp that Im using to control the gears movement. The lock position is good, but when not locked the clamp could move if bumped.( that would be nasty! both gears touching at the same time, I don't want to think about the possible damage that would cause!) I will work on a new clamping lock to start with, and if that doesn't work I will remove the clamp and add a screw locking adjustment. (More to come on that!) Thanks to Big Tim on this project, The idea was mine ( I think??? ) first. but it was Tim's gear's that realy saved My day. I bought a number of gears form Tim a while ago. Anyhow like I said earlier the gear size was the problem, so what I did was use Legacy's single (60T) gear and one of Tim's 72T gears to make the changer work. First I needed to drill and press in a precisions gear into the 72T gear. (that was fun, and not as hard as you might think.More on that topic latter.) Then I need to make the SS guard, and make a bracket to hold the hole set up. the bracket needed to be rectangle in shape to hold the locking mechanism. A slot needed to be added for the adjustment lock on the Legacys gear pivit arm set up,and a pivot point need to be drilled for my gear changer. Most of the measurements came from the Legacy directional gear set, with one difference being to position of the hole compared to the original, the hole (pivot point) I made a little lower, Thinking that It would fix the problems I had on earlier attempt. The ark of the Duplex gear had to be compensated for, something that I did not think of on my first attempt, (using the smaller gear.) Woops! I need to go. (Christmas stuff! ) Here are the pictures. Please let me know what you think? If you have any incites, Please let me know. have a good day! ;-) C.A.G. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.36/2465 - Release Date: 10/28/09 09:34:00
