Re: Shipping a LOM and/or Heavy accessories
It sounds like you got your self a good deal. did you get any teaching materials, like videos or paperwork with your new mill? There is a small learning curve when it comes to useing the O.R Mill. but its not that hard to figure out. Tim K has saved (what Art Ransom started. ) a learing page with some of the best projects and topic that we have covered with in this group over the last, So many years. I would suggest that you take a look at it. http://ornamentalmills.com/turningaround/ It is a Good place to start! talk to you more later. Have a good day. C.A.G. - Original Message - From: Dexter Bland dexterbl...@gmail.com To: Legacy Ornamental Mills legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 10:54 PM Subject: Re: Shipping a LOM and/or Heavy accessories The SHIPPING was about $200 - the machine I got for a deal of $850. No legs, but most of the important accessories. The shipping today would probably be more now that diesel fuel cost $4.00 per gal. I am located just outside of Anniston, AL , surrounded by Talledega National Forest. On May 16, 7:33 pm, Joe Gassen wordsmit...@gmail.com wrote: Dexter Where in AL do you live? I'm in Athens just west of Huntsville Joe Sent from my iPhone On May 16, 2012, at 5:18 PM, Dexter Bland dexterbl...@gmail.com wrote: I purchased a 1000ex (6 ft unit) several years ago from someone in Seattle, WA area and had it shipped to cental Alabama for about $200. The previous owner (great guy) crated up the unit and took it to the dock to avoid the pickup fee. The crate weighed about 250 lbs and was no problem to slide out of the freight truck into my truck at my house. I think I used Old Dominion. I just did internet shopping to find a reasonable priced shipper. some of their web sites will give you a quote for shipping if you have the dimensions of the crate and the estimated weight. I think the trick is finding a seller that is willing to crate up the mill for you. Dexter On Apr 24, 7:16 pm, Va Oak mwfos...@earthlink.net wrote: Does anyone have experience with a shipping service/freight company and their shipping a LOM long distance (half way across the USA)? If one were to buy a LOM from someone half way across the USA, who would you recommend they use to ship it? (Or conversely, if you were to be the seller, what shipping/freight companies have LOM User Group members used or would recommend based on shipping other big/heavy items?) What company did you use? Did you compare several before selecting them? I think with a number of folks in the group selling buying LOMs and their accessories, we should share info as regards the best way to ship them; as well as companies/methods to perhaps avoid. Any input would be useful to all - I'm sure. Thank you in advance to all replying members. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en.
Re: Making Z-axis upgrade
Dexter, I was surfing the web the other day for router accessories and came across a fixture called router angle ease (do a google image search of it). It looks pretty slick and there are a few people out that that have made their own. I think this may be a good starting point for a home made Z-axis. It also has the added benefit of tilting which adds a new dimension if used as a Z-axis. Good luck! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en.
Re: could someone explain the formula
OK I'm back. I see the problem here you are right about the 45 deg. angle for an 8 sided column, but The L should be 3 and the H 2 so your angle is correct but the length of slat is not what is should be.. Lets try changing some of the numbers around and see if??? I like this one better. 12 sided makes your angle 11 at 30 and 2 at 60 Lets try it again and see if it works out this time. I wish you luck and Please keep us informed. C.A.G. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en.
Re: could someone explain the formula
Hello everyone. the pictures did you come thought. ( I am sorry about that.) Try going to http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/04/s/articles/birdsmouth/index.cfm#online-calc and putting in the numbers in there calculators. 1,2,3, should give you all the parts you should need. L is the length of the slat and H is the thickness of the wood. Good luck! I have to go. C.A.G. - Original Message - From: curt george To: Legacy Google group Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 5:29 PM Subject: Re: could someone explain the formula OK I'm back. I see the problem here you are right about the 45 deg. angle for an 8 sided column, but The L should be 3 and the H 2 so your angle is correct but the length of slat is not what is should be.. Lets try changing some of the numbers around and see if??? I like this one better. 12 sided makes your angle 11 at 30 and 2 at 60 Lets try it again and see if it works out this time. I wish you luck and Please keep us informed. C.A.G. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en.
Home Made Rotary Table
Please do post your version of a simple rotary table. We have a lot of frugal lurkers on the list that would be interested. They are just too shy to ask. -Tim - Original Message - From: Dexter Bland dexterbl...@gmail.com To: Legacy Ornamental Mills legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 3:05 AM Subject: Re: Shipping a LOM and/or Heavy accessories I have made a simple indexing rotary table to make bases for candle sticks. I could show how to do that here. You can use the index wheels that you currently have to make wooden ones that you then mount on plywood that is attached to the rails. It costs almost nothing and isn't that hard to make. You are limited in size since the wheel you can make will have to fit between the rails. Dexter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en.
Re: Home Made Rotary Table
I post a couple pictures and explanation in a new post. This is getting off topic. On May 17, 7:38 pm, Tim Krause artmarb...@comcast.net wrote: Please do post your version of a simple rotary table. We have a lot of frugal lurkers on the list that would be interested. They are just too shy to ask. -Tim - Original Message - From: Dexter Bland dexterbl...@gmail.com To: Legacy Ornamental Mills legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 3:05 AM Subject: Re: Shipping a LOM and/or Heavy accessories I have made a simple indexing rotary table to make bases for candle sticks. I could show how to do that here. You can use the index wheels that you currently have to make wooden ones that you then mount on plywood that is attached to the rails. It costs almost nothing and isn't that hard to make. You are limited in size since the wheel you can make will have to fit between the rails. Dexter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en.
Re: could someone explain the formula
Hoorah! Have fun and show us some pictures when you're done. -Tim - Original Message - From: James Edgell To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 6:53 PM Subject: Re: could someone explain the formula now i understand, hahahahaha On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 8:55 PM, Tim Krause artmarb...@comcast.net wrote: One last plan. I've attached a pdf that shows the exact dimensions to cut your staves to. It will create an 8 column. -Tim - Original Message - From: Tim Krause To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 6:35 PM Subject: Re: could someone explain the formula Ok, It's picture time. :-) The version on the left is a correct birdsmouth joint as Mike was describing. Your version cut the 90 degree angle in the wrong face as shown on the right. -Tim - Original Message - From: James Edgell To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 6:15 PM Subject: Re: could someone explain the formula you lost me, if you go look at the magnate site they show a bit that cuts a 45 degree angle and with 8 pieces forms a 8 piece column, so using their formula , with 2 inch thick wood, with a 2 inch cut depth on each side of the cut, i need 3 and three eights width across the board to form an 8 inch diameter column, i did that and that is what i ended up with, only giving a little better than 6 inches in diameter for the diameter for the column once it is turned to round . still not sure what i did wrong? On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Tim Krause artmarb...@comcast.net wrote: Is it safe to say that you understand now where you went wrong? Your version is a pretty cool variation! -Tim - Original Message - From: James Edgell To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 1:11 PM Subject: Re: could someone explain the formula yea i thought it looked pretty cool also, something for future fantasy projects, hahaha -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. bad_birdsmouth_joint.jpg
Homemade Indexing table
I made a cheap index rotary table that I needed to make some candlestick bases. For each one I sandwiched a 3/4 plywood with two pieces of 1/4 hardboard just smaller than would fit between the rails of my machine. I clipped the corners to make it where I could use the machine to make it round. I mounted a hub in the the middle and drilled a hole in the opposite side for the tail stock to set in. You have to make sure the hub and opposite hole for the tail stock are lined up perfectly. I mounted it in the mill and turned it round using the flat bottomed bit. You can then make your disk indexed by using the index plates come with your mill. Move the index pin on the mill to the first position and cut a grove in the edge of the disk with a v-groove bit. Use whatever intervals you need. After you have cut all the index grooves, unmount the piece and drill a larger hole in the middle whatever bolt size you have for the pivot point. I also countersunk the head of the bolt so it would not be in the way. Then mount it on a piece of plywood that will fit between the rails of your machine. The next step is to make a index pin to hold the wheel in the desired position. Make a u-shaped block of wood to hold another block that is pointed on the end that holds the wheel and the other is a tight fit in the u-shaped block. I cut the block with a taper so that it fit snug and would not allow the wheel to turn. If I can figure out how to insert photos, I will load two that will make things real clear. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en.
