Re: my burnt mill
here its very difficult to get a accurate size who knows what the heat did to the dimentions of them Bill - Original Message - From: Tim Krause To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 1:57 PM Subject: Re: my burnt mill Ok, my second best guess would be the 09074 bearing with a 09194 race. Timken brand. The od is 1.938" and the width of the cup (race) would be .6875". I'm positive about the other bearing. -Tim - Original Message - From: Bill Bulkeley To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 8:35 PM Subject: Re: my burnt mill sorry I cant confirm the bearing numbers they are too far gone to read anything but the sizes of the tapered bearing are ID .748 OD 1.935 the other bearing ID 1.000 and OD 2.045 these sizes might be out by 1or 2 thousands because of all the heat they have been through here is pics comparing the 2 different headstocks you were correct as usual Tim :) Bill - Original Message - From: Tim Krause To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 12:05 PM Subject: Re: my burnt mill Curt, the larger bearing is a pillow block style bearing ( CSB 205-16 ) but it uses a Legacy laser cut mount instead of the standard pillow block. The tapered bearing (can't find the numbers for the race and bearing at this moment ) also has a custom mount. Bill can you confirm if the tapered bearing is a LM11949/LM11910? The bore id is .750", od 1.781" and the width is .655". There's differences between the spindles on the two machines as well as the height of the headstock units. I'd love to get specific, but I can't find my notes on this and it's really bugging me. I also think you will have clearance issues trying to find a small bearing to work on the standard 900 with the delrin bushings. If you can find bearings to fit the delrin style headstock that would be a very desirable upgrade. -Tim - Original Message - From: Bill Bulkeley To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 7:59 AM Subject: my burnt mill I pulled the burnt bearings out of the headstock of my destroyed 900 today here is what they look like if no one has seen the ball bearing bearings before im going to try and buy something similar here and convert the delrin sleeves in the 900 i got over to ball bearings if i can Bill -- -- -- -- --
Re: my burnt mill
Ok, my second best guess would be the 09074 bearing with a 09194 race. Timken brand. The od is 1.938" and the width of the cup (race) would be .6875". I'm positive about the other bearing. -Tim - Original Message - From: Bill Bulkeley To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 8:35 PM Subject: Re: my burnt mill sorry I cant confirm the bearing numbers they are too far gone to read anything but the sizes of the tapered bearing are ID .748 OD 1.935 the other bearing ID 1.000 and OD 2.045 these sizes might be out by 1or 2 thousands because of all the heat they have been through here is pics comparing the 2 different headstocks you were correct as usual Tim :) Bill - Original Message - From: Tim Krause To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 12:05 PM Subject: Re: my burnt mill Curt, the larger bearing is a pillow block style bearing ( CSB 205-16 ) but it uses a Legacy laser cut mount instead of the standard pillow block. The tapered bearing (can't find the numbers for the race and bearing at this moment ) also has a custom mount. Bill can you confirm if the tapered bearing is a LM11949/LM11910? The bore id is .750", od 1.781" and the width is .655". There's differences between the spindles on the two machines as well as the height of the headstock units. I'd love to get specific, but I can't find my notes on this and it's really bugging me. I also think you will have clearance issues trying to find a small bearing to work on the standard 900 with the delrin bushings. If you can find bearings to fit the delrin style headstock that would be a very desirable upgrade. -Tim - Original Message - From: Bill Bulkeley To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 7:59 AM Subject: my burnt mill I pulled the burnt bearings out of the headstock of my destroyed 900 today here is what they look like if no one has seen the ball bearing bearings before im going to try and buy something similar here and convert the delrin sleeves in the 900 i got over to ball bearings if i can Bill -- -- -- --
Re: my burnt mill
not much as yet a couple of the standard gears with the index holes in so far but i have not had time to try and clean up what i pulled from the rubble it has taken till now to start I couldn't bear to go near it for a while a bit to sad but as time passes its easier the hard part about the legacy stuff is it was so much aluminum which just disintegrated in the heat and finding anything at all was hard but I will keep you posted on it all Bill - Original Message - From: curt george To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 9:31 AM Subject: Re: my burnt mill Hay Bill was there anything else that you may be able to salvage? like the MT#2 tail stock, or any gears? C.A.G. - Original Message - From: Bill Bulkeley To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 10:59 AM Subject: my burnt mill I pulled the burnt bearings out of the headstock of my destroyed 900 today here is what they look like if no one has seen the ball bearing bearings before im going to try and buy something similar here and convert the delrin sleeves in the 900 i got over to ball bearings if i can Bill -- -- --
Re: my burnt mill
Curt, the larger bearing is a pillow block style bearing ( CSB 205-16 ) but it uses a Legacy laser cut mount instead of the standard pillow block. The tapered bearing (can't find the numbers for the race and bearing at this moment ) also has a custom mount. Bill can you confirm if the tapered bearing is a LM11949/LM11910? The bore id is .750", od 1.781" and the width is .655". There's differences between the spindles on the two machines as well as the height of the headstock units. I'd love to get specific, but I can't find my notes on this and it's really bugging me. I also think you will have clearance issues trying to find a small bearing to work on the standard 900 with the delrin bushings. If you can find bearings to fit the delrin style headstock that would be a very desirable upgrade. -Tim - Original Message - From: Bill Bulkeley To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 7:59 AM Subject: my burnt mill I pulled the burnt bearings out of the headstock of my destroyed 900 today here is what they look like if no one has seen the ball bearing bearings before im going to try and buy something similar here and convert the delrin sleeves in the 900 i got over to ball bearings if i can Bill -- --
Re: my burnt mill
Hay Bill was there anything else that you may be able to salvage? like the MT#2 tail stock, or any gears? C.A.G. - Original Message - From: Bill Bulkeley To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 10:59 AM Subject: my burnt mill I pulled the burnt bearings out of the headstock of my destroyed 900 today here is what they look like if no one has seen the ball bearing bearings before im going to try and buy something similar here and convert the delrin sleeves in the 900 i got over to ball bearings if i can Bill -- --
Re: my burnt mill
Thay dont look so bad Bill! Just put some more grease on them, The fire may have even trued them up for you. ;-p Finding new pillow blocks should not be so hard. I wish you luck. Let us know how it turns out. ;-) C.A.G. - Original Message - From: Bill Bulkeley To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 10:59:35 -0400 (EDT) Subject: my burnt mill I pulled the burnt bearings out of the headstock of my destroyed 900 today here is what they look like if no one has seen the ball bearing bearings before im going to try and buy something similar here and convert the delrin sleeves in the 900 i got over to ball bearings if i can Bill -- --
