Re: Index Spindle for 1000/1500EX

[Lou Lossi]

Thanks Bill

On Monday, January 30, 2017 at 8:34:33 PM UTC-5, aussiman wrote:

> Defiantly don’t try anything but by hand the thread in the back of the 
> spindle is small and would not take too much to brake off 
>
> Then you will have a broken bolt to get out as well as a stuck index drive
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *Lou 
> Lossi
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 31 January 2017 11:16 AM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills
> *Subject:* Re: Index Spindle for 1000/1500EX
>
>  
>
>
> Mike,
>
> Thanks for feedback. I pretty much tried your approach but I will give 
> this another try. My concern is to not 'bugger up' or bend the headstock. 
> Previously, I used a ratchet to turn the bolt. Would an air impact tool be 
> too aggressive for what I'm trying to accomplish? 
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lou
>
>
> On Monday, January 30, 2017 at 4:01:27 PM UTC-5, LILtwisted wrote:
>
> I had one stuck as well, got it out though.
>
> 1. Thread a bolt into the hole and it will contact the #2mt, if it doesn't 
> and there is a shoulder in there, you may need to put a smooth rod in 
> there, cut off to get maximum threads exposed for the bolt.
>
> 2. Tighten the bolt into the #2mt and it may push it out.  Yes? Finish! 
> No? next
>
> 3. Spray anti lock spray of some sort, what ever is your favorite, wd40, 
> pb blaster, whatever.  Let it sit an hour spray it again and do the bolt 
> thing again.  If still no go, Get a heavy piece of steel or a piece of 
> hardwood and hold it under the shaft, use a brass hammer or what ever 
> hammer you have.  Hold good pressure under the shaft and hit the top of the 
> shaft with the hammer.  One smack and then re-tighten the bolt, another 
> smack and tighten continue.  Usually twice is all you need. On my second 
> smack, it flew out.
>
> Let me know how this works for you.  
>
> Mike OK
>
>  
>
> On 1/30/2017 2:01 PM, MWF wrote:
>
> Lou,
> I have the EXACT same problem.  I too, "researched the internet for a 
> solution" and I too, have a steel rod stuck/jammed in the threaded 
> opening.  I have tried freezing it, soaking with WD40 (and a variety of 
> other "lubrication" and "un-stick" products), and finally, the bolt & rod.  
> No luck yet.
> So I, too, need a replacement spindle.  If there are more of us, maybe Tim 
> or someone else will agree to fabricate some replacement spindles.  
> Afterall, if a machinist sets up to make 1, they can make several and bring 
> down the per unit cost for all of us.
> I'm interested in knowing if there are others out there that had the 
> "jammed/stuck" spindle problem and what they did to overcome it.
> Thanks guys (& gals - Brigitte) for your input.  That's what this Group is 
> all about.
> Mac 
> --
> --
>
>  
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: Lou Lossi 
> Sent: Jan 30, 2017 2:45 PM 
> To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> Subject: Index Spindle for 1000/1500EX 
>
> Does anyone have an extra index spindle for a 1000/1500EX they would like 
> to sell?
>
> I bought this machine second hand many years ago and never had any reason 
> to remove the headstock until I got curious enough to attempt another 
> learning experience. Well, not surprisingly, the headstock is stuck in the 
> index spindle. After researching the internet for viable solutions, all 
> were tried with no success. After trying to insert a small steel rod 
> followed by a threaded bolt to push the headstock out, I did manage to get 
> the steel rod stuck…and it’s still stuck! This is not a problem since I can 
> still use the headstock as it did not budge, I just can’t go on to bigger 
> and better things. 
>
> So, of course, my next step was to contact Legacy and get a new index 
> spindle. After about a dozen calls and left messages, I finally made 
> contact with Cindy Anderson. I explained my situation and she said no 
> problem, the current spindles for their CNC machines will fit my machine. 
> Fantastic! Well, the problem is…it DOES NOT fit my machine. So, back to 
> square one. Again, after many attempts with no response back I just gave up 
> on Legacy. It’s that type of customer service, or lack thereof, that loses 
> potential CNC customers like me…for good. 
>
> I don’t have pics or measurements of the spindle, but it has two Delrin 
> washers that are held in place with spring clips. My other thought was to 
> find a machinist, who works independently or on the side, to just make the 
> spindle as it is a simple part and shouldn’t be too expensive. I’ve asked 
> around a bit here and there but can’t seem to find anyone in my area. And I 
> think going to a larger machine shop, even for a simple part, would be a 
> bit pricey. 
>
> So, does anyone here have an extra spindle they are willing to part with? 
> Or, does anyone have another possible solution? I am open to all 
> information, suggestions, and advice. 
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lou
>
> -- 

RE: Index Spindle for 1000/1500EX

[Bill Bulkeley]

Defiantly don’t try anything but by hand the thread in the back of the spindle 
is small and would not take too much to brake off 

Then you will have a broken bolt to get out as well as a stuck index drive

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lou Lossi
Sent: Tuesday, 31 January 2017 11:16 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
Subject: Re: Index Spindle for 1000/1500EX

 


Mike,

Thanks for feedback. I pretty much tried your approach but I will give this 
another try. My concern is to not 'bugger up' or bend the headstock. 
Previously, I used a ratchet to turn the bolt. Would an air impact tool be too 
aggressive for what I'm trying to accomplish? 

Thanks,

Lou


On Monday, January 30, 2017 at 4:01:27 PM UTC-5, LILtwisted wrote:

I had one stuck as well, got it out though.

1. Thread a bolt into the hole and it will contact the #2mt, if it doesn't and 
there is a shoulder in there, you may need to put a smooth rod in there, cut 
off to get maximum threads exposed for the bolt.

2. Tighten the bolt into the #2mt and it may push it out.  Yes? Finish! No? next

3. Spray anti lock spray of some sort, what ever is your favorite, wd40, pb 
blaster, whatever.  Let it sit an hour spray it again and do the bolt thing 
again.  If still no go, Get a heavy piece of steel or a piece of hardwood and 
hold it under the shaft, use a brass hammer or what ever hammer you have.  Hold 
good pressure under the shaft and hit the top of the shaft with the hammer.  
One smack and then re-tighten the bolt, another smack and tighten continue.  
Usually twice is all you need. On my second smack, it flew out.

Let me know how this works for you.  

Mike OK

 

On 1/30/2017 2:01 PM, MWF wrote:

Lou,
I have the EXACT same problem.  I too, "researched the internet for a solution" 
and I too, have a steel rod stuck/jammed in the threaded opening.  I have tried 
freezing it, soaking with WD40 (and a variety of other "lubrication" and 
"un-stick" products), and finally, the bolt & rod.  No luck yet.
So I, too, need a replacement spindle.  If there are more of us, maybe Tim or 
someone else will agree to fabricate some replacement spindles.  Afterall, if a 
machinist sets up to make 1, they can make several and bring down the per unit 
cost for all of us.
I'm interested in knowing if there are others out there that had the 
"jammed/stuck" spindle problem and what they did to overcome it.
Thanks guys (& gals - Brigitte) for your input.  That's what this Group is all 
about.
Mac 


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-Original Message- 
From: Lou Lossi 
Sent: Jan 30, 2017 2:45 PM 
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Index Spindle for 1000/1500EX 

Does anyone have an extra index spindle for a 1000/1500EX they would like to 
sell?

I bought this machine second hand many years ago and never had any reason to 
remove the headstock until I got curious enough to attempt another learning 
experience. Well, not surprisingly, the headstock is stuck in the index 
spindle. After researching the internet for viable solutions, all were tried 
with no success. After trying to insert a small steel rod followed by a 
threaded bolt to push the headstock out, I did manage to get the steel rod 
stuck…and it’s still stuck! This is not a problem since I can still use the 
headstock as it did not budge, I just can’t go on to bigger and better things. 

So, of course, my next step was to contact Legacy and get a new index spindle. 
After about a dozen calls and left messages, I finally made contact with Cindy 
Anderson. I explained my situation and she said no problem, the current 
spindles for their CNC machines will fit my machine. Fantastic! Well, the 
problem is…it DOES NOT fit my machine. So, back to square one. Again, after 
many attempts with no response back I just gave up on Legacy. It’s that type of 
customer service, or lack thereof, that loses potential CNC customers like 
me…for good. 

I don’t have pics or measurements of the spindle, but it has two Delrin washers 
that are held in place with spring clips. My other thought was to find a 
machinist, who works independently or on the side, to just make the spindle as 
it is a simple part and shouldn’t be too expensive. I’ve asked around a bit 
here and there but can’t seem to find anyone in my area. And I think going to a 
larger machine shop, even for a simple part, would be a bit pricey. 

So, does anyone here have an extra spindle they are willing to part with? Or, 
does anyone have another possible solution? I am open to all information, 
suggestions, and advice. 

Thanks,

Lou

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Re: Index Spindle for 1000/1500EX

[Lou Lossi]

Mike,
Thanks for feedback. I pretty much tried your approach but I will give this 
another try. My concern is to not 'bugger up' or bend the headstock. 
Previously, I used a ratchet to turn the bolt. Would an air impact tool be 
too aggressive for what I'm trying to accomplish? 
Thanks,
Lou

On Monday, January 30, 2017 at 4:01:27 PM UTC-5, LILtwisted wrote:

> I had one stuck as well, got it out though.
>
> 1. Thread a bolt into the hole and it will contact the #2mt, if it doesn't 
> and there is a shoulder in there, you may need to put a smooth rod in 
> there, cut off to get maximum threads exposed for the bolt.
>
> 2. Tighten the bolt into the #2mt and it may push it out.  Yes? Finish! 
> No? next
>
> 3. Spray anti lock spray of some sort, what ever is your favorite, wd40, 
> pb blaster, whatever.  Let it sit an hour spray it again and do the bolt 
> thing again.  If still no go, Get a heavy piece of steel or a piece of 
> hardwood and hold it under the shaft, use a brass hammer or what ever 
> hammer you have.  Hold good pressure under the shaft and hit the top of the 
> shaft with the hammer.  One smack and then re-tighten the bolt, another 
> smack and tighten continue.  Usually twice is all you need. On my second 
> smack, it flew out.
>
> Let me know how this works for you.  
>
> Mike OK
>
> On 1/30/2017 2:01 PM, MWF wrote:
>
> Lou,
> I have the EXACT same problem.  I too, "researched the internet for a 
> solution" and I too, have a steel rod stuck/jammed in the threaded 
> opening.  I have tried freezing it, soaking with WD40 (and a variety of 
> other "lubrication" and "un-stick" products), and finally, the bolt & rod.  
> No luck yet.
> So I, too, need a replacement spindle.  If there are more of us, maybe Tim 
> or someone else will agree to fabricate some replacement spindles.  
> Afterall, if a machinist sets up to make 1, they can make several and bring 
> down the per unit cost for all of us.
> I'm interested in knowing if there are others out there that had the 
> "jammed/stuck" spindle problem and what they did to overcome it.
> Thanks guys (& gals - Brigitte) for your input.  That's what this Group is 
> all about.
> Mac 
> --
> --
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: Lou Lossi 
> Sent: Jan 30, 2017 2:45 PM 
> To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> Subject: Index Spindle for 1000/1500EX 
>
> Does anyone have an extra index spindle for a 1000/1500EX they would like 
> to sell?
>
> I bought this machine second hand many years ago and never had any reason 
> to remove the headstock until I got curious enough to attempt another 
> learning experience. Well, not surprisingly, the headstock is stuck in the 
> index spindle. After researching the internet for viable solutions, all 
> were tried with no success. After trying to insert a small steel rod 
> followed by a threaded bolt to push the headstock out, I did manage to get 
> the steel rod stuck…and it’s still stuck! This is not a problem since I can 
> still use the headstock as it did not budge, I just can’t go on to bigger 
> and better things. 
>
> So, of course, my next step was to contact Legacy and get a new index 
> spindle. After about a dozen calls and left messages, I finally made 
> contact with Cindy Anderson. I explained my situation and she said no 
> problem, the current spindles for their CNC machines will fit my machine. 
> Fantastic! Well, the problem is…it DOES NOT fit my machine. So, back to 
> square one. Again, after many attempts with no response back I just gave up 
> on Legacy. It’s that type of customer service, or lack thereof, that loses 
> potential CNC customers like me…for good. 
>
> I don’t have pics or measurements of the spindle, but it has two Delrin 
> washers that are held in place with spring clips. My other thought was to 
> find a machinist, who works independently or on the side, to just make the 
> spindle as it is a simple part and shouldn’t be too expensive. I’ve asked 
> around a bit here and there but can’t seem to find anyone in my area. And I 
> think going to a larger machine shop, even for a simple part, would be a 
> bit pricey. 
>
> So, does anyone here have an extra spindle they are willing to part with? 
> Or, does anyone have another possible solution? I am open to all 
> information, suggestions, and advice. 
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lou
>
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Re: Index Spindle for 1000/1500EX

[Lou Lossi]

Bill,
Thanks for offering your services...very kind of you. I will probably give 
another shot at freeing it up since I don't like giving up on 
anything. Sometimes it's better for me to step away from things and come 
back later...especially when I have a hammer in my hands...ha ha! If I 
don't have any success, I just may send everything your way. I'd be happy 
to compensate you for your assistance. 
Thanks again,
Lou

On Monday, January 30, 2017 at 4:08:23 PM UTC-5, aussiman wrote:

> Lou if you can post your spindle and the spare that won’t fit all the way 
> over here to Australia I would be glad to machine the cnc one to fit your 
> mill if possible and  get your stuck index drive gear out for you .
>
> The only cost would be the shipping to and from Australia. I was a 
> engineer fitter and machinist for 20 years and have a metal lathe in my 
> shop.
>
> Bill 
>
>  
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *Lou 
> Lossi
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 31 January 2017 6:46 AM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills
> *Subject:* Index Spindle for 1000/1500EX
>
>  
>
> Does anyone have an extra index spindle for a 1000/1500EX they would like 
> to sell?
>
> I bought this machine second hand many years ago and never had any reason 
> to remove the headstock until I got curious enough to attempt another 
> learning experience. Well, not surprisingly, the headstock is stuck in the 
> index spindle. After researching the internet for viable solutions, all 
> were tried with no success. After trying to insert a small steel rod 
> followed by a threaded bolt to push the headstock out, I did manage to get 
> the steel rod stuck…and it’s still stuck! This is not a problem since I can 
> still use the headstock as it did not budge, I just can’t go on to bigger 
> and better things. 
>
> So, of course, my next step was to contact Legacy and get a new index 
> spindle. After about a dozen calls and left messages, I finally made 
> contact with Cindy Anderson. I explained my situation and she said no 
> problem, the current spindles for their CNC machines will fit my machine. 
> Fantastic! Well, the problem is…it DOES NOT fit my machine. So, back to 
> square one. Again, after many attempts with no response back I just gave up 
> on Legacy. It’s that type of customer service, or lack thereof, that loses 
> potential CNC customers like me…for good. 
>
> I don’t have pics or measurements of the spindle, but it has two Delrin 
> washers that are held in place with spring clips. My other thought was to 
> find a machinist, who works independently or on the side, to just make the 
> spindle as it is a simple part and shouldn’t be too expensive. I’ve asked 
> around a bit here and there but can’t seem to find anyone in my area. And I 
> think going to a larger machine shop, even for a simple part, would be a 
> bit pricey. 
>
> So, does anyone here have an extra spindle they are willing to part with? 
> Or, does anyone have another possible solution? I am open to all 
> information, suggestions, and advice. 
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lou
>
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Re: legacy manual

[mbeam45]

Not sure if that question is for  me.   But, my 1000/1500 that is for sale is 
in Greenville,  SC. 


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and the big question...location?...thanks...joe biunno






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Re: Index Spindle for 1000/1500EX

[CURTIS GEORGE]

Hey Lou 
if you look at the underside of the spindle you should see two lock rings in 
the grooves holding the spindle in-between the  plastic bushings. remove the 
rings and the spindle should come out of the head stock. where then you can 
hold it in a vice and do (as many have already suggested) use some kind of 
penetrating oil (like WD40). 
If the soaking dose not work, then you can add some heat if needed.  But I find 
if you twist and tap the MT2 adaptor if should come out with out much trouble. 
  
I have to always remind my self. "MIGHT DOSE NOT MAKE RIGHT". & "Just because I 
can, doesn't mean I should". ;-)    I would try twisting the bar out first, and 
then work on the MT2. 
  
I wish you luck on this one.  Legacy made a number of different mounting for 
there spindle adaptors, so a picture just might be needed to find the spindle 
you need. 
Please let us know, I might be able to help you out? but lets try the basics 
before we throw out the part... 
  
have a good night. 
  
C.A.G. 

- Original Message -

From: "MWF"  
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 3:01:03 PM 
Subject: Re: Index Spindle for 1000/1500EX 

Lou, 
I have the EXACT same problem.  I too, "researched the internet for a solution" 
and I too, have a steel rod stuck/jammed in the threaded opening.  I have tried 
freezing it, soaking with WD40 (and a variety of other "lubrication" and 
"un-stick" products), and finally, the bolt & rod.  No luck yet. 
So I, too, need a replacement spindle.  If there are more of us, maybe Tim or 
someone else will agree to fabricate some replacement spindles.  Afterall, if a 
machinist sets up to make 1, they can make several and bring down the per unit 
cost for all of us. 
I'm interested in knowing if there are others out there that had the 
"jammed/stuck" spindle problem and what they did to overcome it. 
Thanks guys (& gals - Brigitte) for your input.  That's what this Group is all 
about. 
Mac 




-Original Message- 
From: Lou Lossi 
Sent: Jan 30, 2017 2:45 PM 
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Index Spindle for 1000/1500EX 



Does anyone have an extra index spindle for a 1000/1500EX they would like to 
sell? 

I bought this machine second hand many years ago and never had any reason to 
remove the headstock until I got curious enough to attempt another learning 
experience. Well, not surprisingly, the headstock is stuck in the index 
spindle. After researching the internet for viable solutions, all were tried 
with no success. After trying to insert a small steel rod followed by a 
threaded bolt to push the headstock out, I did manage to get the steel rod 
stuck…and it’s still stuck! This is not a problem since I can still use the 
headstock as it did not budge, I just can’t go on to bigger and better things. 

So, of course, my next step was to contact Legacy and get a new index spindle. 
After about a dozen calls and left messages, I finally made contact with Cindy 
Anderson. I explained my situation and she said no problem, the current 
spindles for their CNC machines will fit my machine. Fantastic! Well, the 
problem is…it DOES NOT fit my machine. So, back to square one. Again, after 
many attempts with no response back I just gave up on Legacy. It’s that type of 
customer service, or lack thereof, that loses potential CNC customers like 
me…for good. 

I don’t have pics or measurements of the spindle, but it has two Delrin washers 
that are held in place with spring clips. My other thought was to find a 
machinist, who works independently or on the side, to just make the spindle as 
it is a simple part and shouldn’t be too expensive. I’ve asked around a bit 
here and there but can’t seem to find anyone in my area. And I think going to a 
larger machine shop, even for a simple part, would be a bit pricey. 

So, does anyone here have an extra spindle they are willing to part with? Or, 
does anyone have another possible solution? I am open to all information, 
suggestions, and advice. 

Thanks, 

Lou 









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Re: Index Spindle for 1000/1500EX

[BRUCE DORWORTH]

Lou, can you take a picture of your spindle? Maybe that would hekp some of us 
out.Bruce 

On Monday, January 30, 2017 11:45 AM, Lou Lossi  
wrote:
 

 Does anyone have an extra index spindle for a 1000/1500EX theywould like to 
sell?I bought this machine second hand many years ago and neverhad any reason 
to remove the headstock until I got curious enough to attempt anotherlearning 
experience. Well, not surprisingly, the headstock is stuck in theindex spindle. 
After researching the internet for viable solutions, all weretried with no 
success. After trying to insert a small steel rod followed by athreaded bolt to 
push the headstock out, I did manage to get the steel rodstuck…and it’s still 
stuck! This is not a problem since I can still use theheadstock as it did not 
budge, I just can’t go on to bigger and better things. So, of course, my next 
step was to contact Legacy and get anew index spindle. After about a dozen 
calls and left messages, I finally madecontact with Cindy Anderson. I explained 
my situation and she said no problem,the current spindles for their CNC 
machines will fit my machine. Fantastic! Well,the problem is…it DOES NOT fit my 
machine. So, back to square one. Again, aftermany attempts with no response 
back I just gave up on Legacy. It’s that type ofcustomer service, or lack 
thereof, that loses potential CNC customers like me…for good. I don’t have pics 
or measurements of the spindle, but it hastwo Delrin washers that are held in 
place with spring clips. My other thoughtwas to find a machinist, who works 
independently or on the side, to just makethe spindle as it is a simple part 
and shouldn’t be too expensive. I’ve askedaround a bit here and there but can’t 
seem to find anyone in my area. And I thinkgoing to a larger machine shop, even 
for a simple part, would be a bit pricey. So, does anyone here have an extra 
spindle they are willingto part with? Or, does anyone have another possible 
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RE: Index Spindle for 1000/1500EX

[Bill Bulkeley]

Lou if you can post your spindle and the spare that won’t fit all the way over 
here to Australia I would be glad to machine the cnc one to fit your mill if 
possible and  get your stuck index drive gear out for you .

The only cost would be the shipping to and from Australia. I was a engineer 
fitter and machinist for 20 years and have a metal lathe in my shop.

Bill 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lou Lossi
Sent: Tuesday, 31 January 2017 6:46 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
Subject: Index Spindle for 1000/1500EX

 

Does anyone have an extra index spindle for a 1000/1500EX they would like to 
sell?

I bought this machine second hand many years ago and never had any reason to 
remove the headstock until I got curious enough to attempt another learning 
experience. Well, not surprisingly, the headstock is stuck in the index 
spindle. After researching the internet for viable solutions, all were tried 
with no success. After trying to insert a small steel rod followed by a 
threaded bolt to push the headstock out, I did manage to get the steel rod 
stuck…and it’s still stuck! This is not a problem since I can still use the 
headstock as it did not budge, I just can’t go on to bigger and better things. 

So, of course, my next step was to contact Legacy and get a new index spindle. 
After about a dozen calls and left messages, I finally made contact with Cindy 
Anderson. I explained my situation and she said no problem, the current 
spindles for their CNC machines will fit my machine. Fantastic! Well, the 
problem is…it DOES NOT fit my machine. So, back to square one. Again, after 
many attempts with no response back I just gave up on Legacy. It’s that type of 
customer service, or lack thereof, that loses potential CNC customers like 
me…for good. 

I don’t have pics or measurements of the spindle, but it has two Delrin washers 
that are held in place with spring clips. My other thought was to find a 
machinist, who works independently or on the side, to just make the spindle as 
it is a simple part and shouldn’t be too expensive. I’ve asked around a bit 
here and there but can’t seem to find anyone in my area. And I think going to a 
larger machine shop, even for a simple part, would be a bit pricey. 

So, does anyone here have an extra spindle they are willing to part with? Or, 
does anyone have another possible solution? I am open to all information, 
suggestions, and advice. 

Thanks,

Lou

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Re: Index Spindle for 1000/1500EX

[Okla Mike (Liltwisted)]

I had one stuck as well, got it out though.

1. Thread a bolt into the hole and it will contact the #2mt, if it 
doesn't and there is a shoulder in there, you may need to put a smooth 
rod in there, cut off to get maximum threads exposed for the bolt.


2. Tighten the bolt into the #2mt and it may push it out.  Yes? Finish! 
No? next


3. Spray anti lock spray of some sort, what ever is your favorite, wd40, 
pb blaster, whatever.  Let it sit an hour spray it again and do the bolt 
thing again.  If still no go, Get a heavy piece of steel or a piece of 
hardwood and hold it under the shaft, use a brass hammer or what ever 
hammer you have.  Hold good pressure under the shaft and hit the top of 
the shaft with the hammer.  One smack and then re-tighten the bolt, 
another smack and tighten continue.  Usually twice is all you need. On 
my second smack, it flew out.


Let me know how this works for you.

Mike OK


On 1/30/2017 2:01 PM, MWF wrote:

Lou,
I have the EXACT same problem.  I too, "researched the internet for a 
solution" and I too, have a steel rod stuck/jammed in the threaded 
opening.  I have tried freezing it, soaking with WD40 (and a variety 
of other "lubrication" and "un-stick" products), and finally, the bolt 
& rod.  No luck yet.
So I, too, need a replacement spindle.  If there are more of us, maybe 
Tim or someone else will agree to fabricate some replacement 
spindles.  Afterall, if a machinist sets up to make 1, they can make 
several and bring down the per unit cost for all of us.
I'm interested in knowing if there are others out there that had the 
"jammed/stuck" spindle problem and what they did to overcome it.
Thanks guys (& gals - Brigitte) for your input.  That's what this 
Group is all about.

Mac



-Original Message-
From: Lou Lossi
Sent: Jan 30, 2017 2:45 PM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
Subject: Index Spindle for 1000/1500EX

Does anyone have an extra index spindle for a 1000/1500EX they
would like to sell?

I bought this machine second hand many years ago and never had any
reason to remove the headstock until I got curious enough to
attempt another learning experience. Well, not surprisingly, the
headstock is stuck in the index spindle. After researching the
internet for viable solutions, all were tried with no success.
After trying to insert a small steel rod followed by a threaded
bolt to push the headstock out, I did manage to get the steel rod
stuck…and it’s still stuck! This is not a problem since I can
still use the headstock as it did not budge, I just can’t go on to
bigger and better things.

So, of course, my next step was to contact Legacy and get a new
index spindle. After about a dozen calls and left messages, I
finally made contact with Cindy Anderson. I explained my situation
and she said no problem, the current spindles for their CNC
machines will fit my machine. Fantastic! Well, the problem is…it
DOES NOT fit my machine. So, back to square one. Again, after many
attempts with no response back I just gave up on Legacy. It’s that
type of customer service, or lack thereof, that loses potential
CNC customers like me…for good.

I don’t have pics or measurements of the spindle, but it has two
Delrin washers that are held in place with spring clips. My other
thought was to find a machinist, who works independently or on the
side, to just make the spindle as it is a simple part and
shouldn’t be too expensive. I’ve asked around a bit here and there
but can’t seem to find anyone in my area. And I think going to a
larger machine shop, even for a simple part, would be a bit pricey.

So, does anyone here have an extra spindle they are willing to
part with? Or, does anyone have another possible solution? I am
open to all information, suggestions, and advice.

Thanks,

Lou

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Re: Index Spindle for 1000/1500EX

[MWF]

Lou,I have the EXACT same problem.  I too, "researched the internet for a solution" and I too, have a steel rod stuck/jammed in the threaded opening.  I have tried freezing it, soaking with WD40 (and a variety of other "lubrication" and "un-stick" products), and finally, the bolt & rod.  No luck yet.So I, too, need a replacement spindle.  If there are more of us, maybe Tim or someone else will agree to fabricate some replacement spindles.  Afterall, if a machinist sets up to make 1, they can make several and bring down the per unit cost for all of us.I'm interested in knowing if there are others out there that had the "jammed/stuck" spindle problem and what they did to overcome it.Thanks guys (& gals - Brigitte) for your input.  That's what this Group is all about.Mac -Original Message-
From: Lou Lossi 
Sent: Jan 30, 2017 2:45 PM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Index Spindle for 1000/1500EX



Does anyone have an extra index spindle for a 1000/1500EX they
would like to sell?

I bought this machine second hand many years ago and never
had any reason to remove the headstock until I got curious enough to attempt another
learning experience. Well, not surprisingly, the headstock is stuck in the
index spindle. After researching the internet for viable solutions, all were
tried with no success. After trying to insert a small steel rod followed by a
threaded bolt to push the headstock out, I did manage to get the steel rod
stuck…and it’s still stuck! This is not a problem since I can still use the
headstock as it did not budge, I just can’t go on to bigger and better things. 

So, of course, my next step was to contact Legacy and get a
new index spindle. After about a dozen calls and left messages, I finally made
contact with Cindy Anderson. I explained my situation and she said no problem,
the current spindles for their CNC machines will fit my machine. Fantastic! Well,
the problem is…it DOES NOT fit my machine. So, back to square one. Again, after
many attempts with no response back I just gave up on Legacy. It’s that type of
customer service, or lack thereof, that loses potential CNC customers like me…for good. 

I don’t have pics or measurements of the spindle, but it has
two Delrin washers that are held in place with spring clips. My other thought
was to find a machinist, who works independently or on the side, to just make
the spindle as it is a simple part and shouldn’t be too expensive. I’ve asked
around a bit here and there but can’t seem to find anyone in my area. And I think
going to a larger machine shop, even for a simple part, would be a bit pricey. 

So, does anyone here have an extra spindle they are willing
to part with? Or, does anyone have another possible solution? I am open to all information,
suggestions, and advice. 

Thanks,

Lou








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LOM 1200 - New listing on eBay

[MWF]

Greetings all,I just came across this "new" listing on eBay for a LOM 1200.It is listed as being in Beaverton, Oregon.  (Tim, is this one of your "museum" pieces?)Someone in the Pacific Northwest is going get themselves a fine looking & very capable Mill.It even come with the Rotary Table.http://www.ebay.com/itm/192091142763?ul_noapp=trueEnjoy.Mac



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Index Spindle for 1000/1500EX

[Lou Lossi]

 

Does anyone have an extra index spindle for a 1000/1500EX they would like 
to sell?

I bought this machine second hand many years ago and never had any reason 
to remove the headstock until I got curious enough to attempt another 
learning experience. Well, not surprisingly, the headstock is stuck in the 
index spindle. After researching the internet for viable solutions, all 
were tried with no success. After trying to insert a small steel rod 
followed by a threaded bolt to push the headstock out, I did manage to get 
the steel rod stuck…and it’s still stuck! This is not a problem since I can 
still use the headstock as it did not budge, I just can’t go on to bigger 
and better things. 

So, of course, my next step was to contact Legacy and get a new index 
spindle. After about a dozen calls and left messages, I finally made 
contact with Cindy Anderson. I explained my situation and she said no 
problem, the current spindles for their CNC machines will fit my machine. 
Fantastic! Well, the problem is…it DOES NOT fit my machine. So, back to 
square one. Again, after many attempts with no response back I just gave up 
on Legacy. It’s that type of customer service, or lack thereof, that loses 
potential CNC customers like me…for good. 

I don’t have pics or measurements of the spindle, but it has two Delrin 
washers that are held in place with spring clips. My other thought was to 
find a machinist, who works independently or on the side, to just make the 
spindle as it is a simple part and shouldn’t be too expensive. I’ve asked 
around a bit here and there but can’t seem to find anyone in my area. And I 
think going to a larger machine shop, even for a simple part, would be a 
bit pricey. 

So, does anyone here have an extra spindle they are willing to part with? 
Or, does anyone have another possible solution? I am open to all 
information, suggestions, and advice. 

Thanks,

Lou

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Re: legacy manual

['joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

and the big question...location?...thanks...joe biunno


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Re: legacy manual

[mbeam45]

Mine is a Legacy model 1000ex/1500ex.




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Mark, 
Would you elaborate on the machine you have for sale?

Jim

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Re: legacy manual

[mbeam45]

Yes, I will get model and serial numbers for you and get back as soon as 
possible.


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