RE: old 900

[bulkeley]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1M2eAZDsFz8JK70famI7Ozs_5iSjghKy5/view

 

opps missed it sorry

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Monday, 9 January 2023 3:47 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: old 900

 

Here are some pics of the rotary table from the 900 user manual if you don’t 
have the manual here is the link from legacy where you can

Download it 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Ken and Diana
Sent: Sunday, 8 January 2023 9:24 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 
Subject: Re: old 900

 

I would be interested in any and all info on the rotary for the LOM.

I am a new owner of a 900 model and am slowly getting it together and I find 
the rotary 

table concept  very interesting.

  I am a retired machinist so maybe I could build myself one with some helpful 
information from 

this group.

Thanks, Ken

 

On Sat, Jan 7, 2023 at 2:47 PM Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Well for what it is worth, we have a company we started working with out of 
Wisc. that really knows the shipping arena, 

so if you decide to try having something shipped , or questions let me know and 
I will reach out to them and see if we can help you.

We are all about helping each other. Take care, have a great afternoon. More 
later. 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sat, Jan 7, 2023 at 1:24 PM Tom B.C. Canada mailto:gold...@hotmail.com> > wrote:

from my experience shipping things from the USA to here is a real pain.

lots of ebay sellers won't even ship to Canada.

many costs are involved and the seller's "shipping" cost is only to the broker 
it seems

because the UPS person always has their hand out for more money when they 

arrive at the door. There's extra hidden charges for customs brokerage fees and 
taxes etc.

It's a gong show.

 

I'm coming up with ideas on redoing the whole machine.

 

Curt, thanks for the tail pic.   That looks like what I want to do.

might buy a cheap old wood lathe and steal the tail and head spindle from it.

 

Thanks to everyone for their contributions.

 

 

On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 9:11:23 AM UTC-8 timjz...@gmail.com 
  wrote:

Yeah but the rotary table is great to have. I have 2 of them and would never 
trade them for anything. 

You can make some really nice items on them. Rosettes are one of the things I 
did a lot on. So if you have an opportunity 

to get one or build one I strongly suggest you go for it. If you need 
measurements or pix let me know I will get them for you. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798   shop

320-630-2243   cell

 

On Sat, Jan 7, 2023 at 9:17 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > 
wrote:

Good morning everyone.

 

Tom, I like that turn table/disk.  But I find the table is the lest used Legacy 
tool that I own.  Not to say anything bad about it, I just do not need to use  
it a lot.   

In the early days of Legacy, they just used a 2x4 or a piece of plywood, and 
mounted it between the rails of the Legacy, Then they used the stylist form the 
templet follower as the center point, There table was just simple a router 
circle jig type of table. 

That's How Dane made his Grape arbor in one of his video/ Garden arbor,( Legacy 
project 2 video.)

 

I have to go,

talk to you all more latter.

Have a great day.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 07:31:06 AM EST, mailto:bulk...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

Well I’m in if it has a controller lol

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com   
mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > On 
Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Saturday, 7 January 2023 10:47 PM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: old 900

 

For sure. We have one out here about a 1 1/2 away that I have thought about 
doing that with. I already know someone that could use the rails. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798   shop

320-630-2243   cell

 

 

On Sat, Jan 7, 2023 at 1:34 AM mailto:bulk...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Another option you may not have conceded is buy one with a partner it would be 
cheaper and he could send you

What parts you need and keep what parts he needs

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com   
mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > On 
Behalf Of Tom B.C. Canada
Sent: 

Re: old 900

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

 Ken, there is NOTHING on the Legacy that a machinist can not re-produce.
I'm not a machinist (But did go to a trade school for the topic, back in the 
80's, before I got into the pipefitting .) , ALL My Legacy equipment has been 
modified in the attempt to make it better. I personally look forward to talking 
shop with you, in the near future.
Again Welcome to the group.
Please ask as much as you wish, and share any ideas that you may have.
C.A.G.
On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 10:49:30 PM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
Ornamental Mills  wrote:  
 
  Hello Ken
This is the rotary table that I own. It was made by a friend of mine, who 
basically gave it to me as a gift.
This table was made from a ford F-150 wheel bearing. It has a vacuum port on 
the bottom. a table locks in place and has its own build in indexing plate. It 
turns so very easy, its amazing to feel the smoothness of this precision piece 
of equipment. My Legacy's turn table (although very nice.) pails in comparison. 
C.A.G.
On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 10:32:08 PM EST, Ken and Diana 
 wrote:  
 
 I would be interested in any and all info on the rotary for the LOM.I am a new 
owner of a 900 model and am slowly getting it together and I find the rotary 
table concept  very interesting.  I am a retired machinist so maybe I could 
build myself one with some helpful information from this group.Thanks, Ken
On Sat, Jan 7, 2023 at 2:47 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:

Well for what it is worth, we have a company we started working with out of 
Wisc. that really knows the shipping arena, so if you decide to try having 
something shipped , or questions let me know and I will reach out to them and 
see if we can help you.We are all about helping each other. Take care, have a 
great afternoon. More later. 
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell

On Sat, Jan 7, 2023 at 1:24 PM Tom B.C. Canada  wrote:

from my experience shipping things from the USA to here is a real pain.lots of 
ebay sellers won't even ship to Canada.many costs are involved and the seller's 
"shipping" cost is only to the broker it seemsbecause the UPS person always has 
their hand out for more money when they arrive at the door. There's extra 
hidden charges for customs brokerage fees and taxes etc.It's a gong show.
I'm coming up with ideas on redoing the whole machine.
Curt, thanks for the tail pic.   That looks like what I want to do.might buy a 
cheap old wood lathe and steal the tail and head spindle from it.
Thanks to everyone for their contributions.

On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 9:11:23 AM UTC-8 timjz...@gmail.com wrote:

Yeah but the rotary table is great to have. I have 2 of them and would never 
trade them for anything. You can make some really nice items on them. Rosettes 
are one of the things I did a lot on. So if you have an opportunity to get one 
or build one I strongly suggest you go for it. If you need measurements or pix 
let me know I will get them for you. 
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell
On Sat, Jan 7, 2023 at 9:17 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:

 Good morning everyone.
Tom, I like that turn table/disk.  But I find the table is the lest used Legacy 
tool that I own.  Not to say anything bad about it, I just do not need to use  
it a lot.   In the early days of Legacy, they just used a 2x4 or a piece of 
plywood, and mounted it between the rails of the Legacy, Then they used the 
stylist form the templet follower as the center point, There table was just 
simple a router circle jig type of table. That's How Dane made his Grape arbor 
in one of his video/ Garden arbor,( Legacy project 2 video.)
I have to go,talk to you all more latter.Have a great day.
C.A.G.
On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 07:31:06 AM EST,  
wrote:  
 
 
Well I’m in if it has a controller lol

  

Bill

  

From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Saturday, 7 January 2023 10:47 PM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: old 900

  

For sure. We have one out here about a 1 1/2 away that I have thought about 
doing that with. I already know someone that could use the rails. 




Kind Regards,

  

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

  

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

  

  

On Sat, Jan 7, 2023 at 1:34 AM  wrote:


Another option you may not have conceded is buy one with a partner it would be 
cheaper and he could send you

What parts you need and keep what parts he needs

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Tom B.C. Canada
Sent: Saturday, 7 January 2023 2:45 PM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: old 900

 

Jeff,  I wish there were lots of legacy's up here so I could do that.  watching 
a video I learned legacy made 12000  manual machines

but is seems 

Re: Bill's Square blossom rossette

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

 Hey that Bill
I too have plans of granger that is one hold, but due to the Cold temps. and 
the basic loss of my beloved Radiant Kerosene heater. (do to Gov. problems, 
Kerosene is at $10.00 a gal.  I normally go through appx. 250 gal. a year 
heating my garage/shop.)  I am looking into a new source of heat for my shop. 
;-( .

C.A.G.
On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 10:34:27 PM EST,  
wrote:  
 
 
I intend to make 5 of them and make a box out of it when I can get back in my 
shop it’s too hot for a while yet 

  

Bill

  

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Monday, 9 January 2023 2:10 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bill's Square blossom rossette

  

I liked it.   No matter if its prefect or not.

Im sure many of our group have not seen the original video.

Its all new to those want to learn. 

I saw things in your video that I have not seen before. 

  

They say, what is old, becomes new again.  ;-)

  

Good job, Bill.

and Thank you.

  

C.A.G.

  

On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 10:02:21 PM EST,  wrote: 

  

  

Nothing much curt its just a redo of an old video I did, after watching it 
again I noticed I edited it wrong

So I fixed it and added a couple of pics so it nothing new just corrected now

 

Bill

 

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Monday, 9 January 2023 11:27 AM
To: Legacy ornamental mills 
Subject: Bill's Square blossom rossette

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUR3wT4JPms     Good job Bill !

 

 

C.A.G.

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Re: Bill's Square blossom rossette

[Tim Ziegler]

Hey Turn the fan on high and have some fun my friend.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Jan 8, 2023 at 9:34 PM  wrote:

> I intend to make 5 of them and make a box out of it when I can get back in
> my shop it’s too hot for a while yet
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, 9 January 2023 2:10 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Bill's Square blossom rossette
>
>
>
> I liked it.   No matter if its prefect or not.
>
> Im sure many of our group have not seen the original video.
>
> Its all new to those want to learn.
>
> I saw things in your video that I have not seen before.
>
>
>
> They say, what is old, becomes new again.  ;-)
>
>
>
> Good job, Bill.
>
> and Thank you.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 10:02:21 PM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Nothing much curt its just a redo of an old video I did, after watching it
> again I noticed I edited it wrong
>
> So I fixed it and added a couple of pics so it nothing new just corrected
> now
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, 9 January 2023 11:27 AM
> *To:* Legacy ornamental mills 
> *Subject:* Bill's Square blossom rossette
>
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUR3wT4JPms Good job Bill !
>
>
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
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Re: old 900

[Tim Ziegler]

Well you sure came to the right place.
I would recommend trying to find one as opposed to making one, just
because they are becoming more and more available.
Just my thoughts.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Jan 8, 2023 at 9:32 PM Ken and Diana  wrote:

> I would be interested in any and all info on the rotary for the LOM.
> I am a new owner of a 900 model and am slowly getting it together and I
> find the rotary
> table concept  very interesting.
>   I am a retired machinist so maybe I could build myself one with some
> helpful information from
> this group.
> Thanks, Ken
>
> On Sat, Jan 7, 2023 at 2:47 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
>> Well for what it is worth, we have a company we started working with out
>> of Wisc. that really knows the shipping arena,
>> so if you decide to try having something shipped , or questions let me
>> know and I will reach out to them and see if we can help you.
>> We are all about helping each other. Take care, have a great afternoon.
>> More later.
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 7, 2023 at 1:24 PM Tom B.C. Canada 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> from my experience shipping things from the USA to here is a real pain.
>>> lots of ebay sellers won't even ship to Canada.
>>> many costs are involved and the seller's "shipping" cost is only to the
>>> broker it seems
>>> because the UPS person always has their hand out for more money when
>>> they
>>> arrive at the door. There's extra hidden charges for customs brokerage
>>> fees and taxes etc.
>>> It's a gong show.
>>>
>>> I'm coming up with ideas on redoing the whole machine.
>>>
>>> Curt, thanks for the tail pic.   That looks like what I want to do.
>>> might buy a cheap old wood lathe and steal the tail and head spindle
>>> from it.
>>>
>>> Thanks to everyone for their contributions.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 9:11:23 AM UTC-8 timjz...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Yeah but the rotary table is great to have. I have 2 of them and would
 never trade them for anything.
 You can make some really nice items on them. Rosettes are one of the
 things I did a lot on. So if you have an opportunity
 to get one or build one I strongly suggest you go for it. If you need
 measurements or pix let me know I will get them for you.

 Kind Regards,

 Timothy J. Ziegler
 Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
 14171 160th Ave.
 Foreston MN 56330

 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell

 On Sat, Jan 7, 2023 at 9:17 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental
 Mills  wrote:

> Good morning everyone.
>
> Tom, I like that turn table/disk.  But I find the table is the lest
> used Legacy tool that I own.  Not to say anything bad about it, I just do
> not need to use  it a lot.
> In the early days of Legacy, they just used a 2x4 or a piece of
> plywood, and mounted it between the rails of the Legacy, Then they used 
> the
> stylist form the templet follower as the center point, There table was 
> just
> simple a router circle jig type of table.
> That's How Dane made his Grape arbor in one of his video/ Garden
> arbor,( Legacy project 2 video.)
>
> I have to go,
> talk to you all more latter.
> Have a great day.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 07:31:06 AM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
> Well I’m in if it has a controller lol
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Saturday, 7 January 2023 10:47 PM
> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: old 900
>
>
>
> For sure. We have one out here about a 1 1/2 away that I have thought
> about doing that with. I already know someone that could use the rails.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>
> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 7, 2023 at 1:34 AM  wrote:
>
> Another option you may not have conceded is buy one with a partner it
> would be cheaper and he could send you
>
> What parts you need and keep what parts he needs
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tom B.C. Canada
> *Sent:* Saturday, 7 January 2023 2:45 PM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> *Subject:* Re: old 900
>
>
>

RE: Bill's Square blossom rossette

[bulkeley]

I intend to make 5 of them and make a box out of it when I can get back in my 
shop it’s too hot for a while yet 

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Monday, 9 January 2023 2:10 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bill's Square blossom rossette

 

I liked it.   No matter if its prefect or not.

Im sure many of our group have not seen the original video.

Its all new to those want to learn. 

I saw things in your video that I have not seen before. 

 

They say, what is old, becomes new again.  ;-)

 

Good job, Bill.

and Thank you.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 10:02:21 PM EST, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

Nothing much curt its just a redo of an old video I did, after watching it 
again I noticed I edited it wrong

So I fixed it and added a couple of pics so it nothing new just corrected now

 

Bill

 

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Monday, 9 January 2023 11:27 AM
To: Legacy ornamental mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Bill's Square blossom rossette

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUR3wT4JPms Good job Bill !

 

 

C.A.G.

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Re: old 900

[Ken and Diana]

I would be interested in any and all info on the rotary for the LOM.
I am a new owner of a 900 model and am slowly getting it together and I
find the rotary
table concept  very interesting.
  I am a retired machinist so maybe I could build myself one with some
helpful information from
this group.
Thanks, Ken

On Sat, Jan 7, 2023 at 2:47 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:

> Well for what it is worth, we have a company we started working with out
> of Wisc. that really knows the shipping arena,
> so if you decide to try having something shipped , or questions let me
> know and I will reach out to them and see if we can help you.
> We are all about helping each other. Take care, have a great afternoon.
> More later.
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 7, 2023 at 1:24 PM Tom B.C. Canada 
> wrote:
>
>> from my experience shipping things from the USA to here is a real pain.
>> lots of ebay sellers won't even ship to Canada.
>> many costs are involved and the seller's "shipping" cost is only to the
>> broker it seems
>> because the UPS person always has their hand out for more money when they
>> arrive at the door. There's extra hidden charges for customs brokerage
>> fees and taxes etc.
>> It's a gong show.
>>
>> I'm coming up with ideas on redoing the whole machine.
>>
>> Curt, thanks for the tail pic.   That looks like what I want to do.
>> might buy a cheap old wood lathe and steal the tail and head spindle from
>> it.
>>
>> Thanks to everyone for their contributions.
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 9:11:23 AM UTC-8 timjz...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah but the rotary table is great to have. I have 2 of them and would
>>> never trade them for anything.
>>> You can make some really nice items on them. Rosettes are one of the
>>> things I did a lot on. So if you have an opportunity
>>> to get one or build one I strongly suggest you go for it. If you need
>>> measurements or pix let me know I will get them for you.
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>
>>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jan 7, 2023 at 9:17 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
>>>  wrote:
>>>
 Good morning everyone.

 Tom, I like that turn table/disk.  But I find the table is the lest
 used Legacy tool that I own.  Not to say anything bad about it, I just do
 not need to use  it a lot.
 In the early days of Legacy, they just used a 2x4 or a piece of
 plywood, and mounted it between the rails of the Legacy, Then they used the
 stylist form the templet follower as the center point, There table was just
 simple a router circle jig type of table.
 That's How Dane made his Grape arbor in one of his video/ Garden
 arbor,( Legacy project 2 video.)

 I have to go,
 talk to you all more latter.
 Have a great day.

 C.A.G.

 On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 07:31:06 AM EST, 
 wrote:


 Well I’m in if it has a controller lol



 Bill



 *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <
 legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
 *Sent:* Saturday, 7 January 2023 10:47 PM
 *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: old 900



 For sure. We have one out here about a 1 1/2 away that I have thought
 about doing that with. I already know someone that could use the rails.


 Kind Regards,



 Timothy J. Ziegler

 Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

 14171 160th Ave.

 Foreston MN 56330



 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop

 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell





 On Sat, Jan 7, 2023 at 1:34 AM  wrote:

 Another option you may not have conceded is buy one with a partner it
 would be cheaper and he could send you

 What parts you need and keep what parts he needs



 Bill



 *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <
 legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tom B.C. Canada
 *Sent:* Saturday, 7 January 2023 2:45 PM
 *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 *Subject:* Re: old 900



 Jeff,  I wish there were lots of legacy's up here so I could do that.
 watching a video I learned legacy made 12000  manual machines

 but is seems very few of them made it up here.

 On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 8:41:11 AM UTC-8 jtric...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Looks like an 800 model to me, I have one I picked up cheap for parts,
 it is similar to my model 900 but a bit narrower and lighter duty on
 bushings and headstock/tailstock. (earlier generation).

 Jeff from Connecticut

 Sent 

Re: Bill's Square blossom rossette

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

 I liked it.   No matter if its prefect or not.Im sure many of our group have 
not seen the original video.Its all new to those want to learn. I saw things in 
your video that I have not seen before. 
They say, what is old, becomes new again.  ;-)
Good job, Bill.and Thank you.
C.A.G.
On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 10:02:21 PM EST,  
wrote:  
 
 
Nothing much curt its just a redo of an old video I did, after watching it 
again I noticed I edited it wrong

So I fixed it and added a couple of pics so it nothing new just corrected now

  

Bill

  

  

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Monday, 9 January 2023 11:27 AM
To: Legacy ornamental mills 
Subject: Bill's Square blossom rossette

  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUR3wT4JPms     Good job Bill !

  

  

C.A.G.

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RE: Bill's Square blossom rossette

[bulkeley]

Nothing much curt its just a redo of an old video I did, after watching it 
again I noticed I edited it wrong

So I fixed it and added a couple of pics so it nothing new just corrected now

 

Bill

 

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Monday, 9 January 2023 11:27 AM
To: Legacy ornamental mills 
Subject: Bill's Square blossom rossette

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUR3wT4JPms Good job Bill !

 

 

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Bill's Square blossom rossette

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUR3wT4JPms     Good job Bill !


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Re: 3d printing

[Tim Ziegler]

yes the ones we have in drills and such and other things like toys use to
be nylon something

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Jan 8, 2023 at 4:23 PM  wrote:

> According to my son they do make a 3d printing cord from Delrin so 3d
> printing split nuts is most likely possible
>
> those and top hats will surly be popular to print. I still think gears are
> not totally out of the question now I have disassembled
>
> Some of the electric geared drive motors we use on our legacys and guess
> what some of the gears are made of in the gearbox?
>
> Not always metal yes some are plastic lol there are some very strong
> plastics out there these days I’m just saying.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 9 January 2023 4:12 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: 3d printing
>
>
>
> Eric would you be interested in trying to run some split nuts for the
> LOM's?
>
> What type of material do you use? Is it long wearing? What else can you
> create or have created?
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 8, 2023 at 11:04 AM Eric Gantner 
> wrote:
>
> I just recently setup my 3D printer, and I am learning ton.  Once you have
> your files made you can make it out of what ever need for the function you
> need.  All the work is in the file, I would keep at, especially for
> testing.
>
>
>
> Eric G.
>
>
>
> FYI
>
> I purchased Charlie’s Legacy 900 should be here in a week or two.
>
> On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 9:04:25 AM UTC-5 aussiman wrote:
>
> Ok I’m giving up the idea you guys talked me out of it
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  *On
> Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Saturday, 7 January 2023 12:47 AM
> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: 3d printing
>
>
>
> That and Laser cut metal gears are not the expensive either.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>
> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 10:44 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) <
> legac...@iglide.net> wrote:
>
> Tim Krause has made gears in the past for some special pitches.  We will
> never be in a position that we will have to rely on plastic gears.  But you
> know, they are making 3D metal printing more and more affordable.
>
> Mike OK
>
> On 1/5/2023 10:31 PM, bulk...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>
> Me neither but if you had nothing else you would look at them, I’m not
> doing it for me it’s for the future
>
> Members who cant get gears anywhere one day also for experiment pitches
> and such
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  *On
> Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Friday, 6 January 2023 3:14 PM
> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: 3d printing
>
>
>
> LOL, don't let him scare you, he wants challenges with it I'm sure.
>
> We have a couple local guys with 3d printing too that I may have try some
> things. Not ready for plastic gears though.
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>
> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 9:03 PM  wrote:
>
> My son bought a 3d printer yesterday he didn’t even have it out of the box
> and I dropped 4 gears
>
> In front of him and said here print these to try it out for a start lol,
> the standard gears and the .25 gears
>
> He said gee dad I haven’t even got it working yet, never too early to
> start son lol I replied . unfortunately
>
> The 2x gears are beyond the printers capacity ,I been wanting to see if
> legacy gears can be printed
>
> for some time now if this works might be an easy answer if we cant get
> them anymore and hopefully
>
> considerably cheaper too after that top hats if Delrin wire is available
> that is if my son is still talking to me lol
>
>
>
> Bill
>
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Re: 3d printing

[Tim Ziegler]

yup for sure Joe.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Jan 8, 2023 at 4:12 PM Joseph Greenleaf 
wrote:

>
> The company behind the article does custom work, so someone needing a part
> could send the data files to them and have them create the parts, plus a
> few extra to sell and help recoup some of the expense.
>
> Joe G.
>
> On Sun, Jan 8, 2023 at 5:08 PM  wrote:
>
>> That article on metal 3d printing was extremely interesting that is
>> defiantly the future printing in Aluminum,316L stainless steel and titanium
>>
>> amazing one day many years from now engineering machineing will be a
>> thing of the past. Imagine 3d printed replacement body parts
>>
>> like hips knee joints ect ,3d printed cars planes even space craft its
>> endless every thing we make from metal could be 3d printed
>>
>> if only the human race would stop squabbling and fighting amongst
>> ourselves and  turn our attention to these types of technologies  there is
>> nothing humans could not accomplish but instead we spend all our time and
>> resources inventing things to kill each other.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Joseph Greenleaf
>> *Sent:* Monday, 9 January 2023 4:09 AM
>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: 3d printing
>>
>>
>>
>> There are 3D printers that print in METAL. I’m sure it is a pricey
>> meatball, but imagine the gears and such you could have!
>>
>> https://www.hubs.com/knowledge-base/introduction-metal-3d-printing/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Joe G.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 8, 2023 at 12:04 PM Eric Gantner 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I just recently setup my 3D printer, and I am learning ton.  Once you
>> have your files made you can make it out of what ever need for the function
>> you need.  All the work is in the file, I would keep at, especially for
>> testing.
>>
>>
>>
>> Eric G.
>>
>>
>>
>> FYI
>>
>> I purchased Charlie’s Legacy 900 should be here in a week or two.
>>
>> On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 9:04:25 AM UTC-5 aussiman wrote:
>>
>> Ok I’m giving up the idea you guys talked me out of it
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
>> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>> *Sent:* Saturday, 7 January 2023 12:47 AM
>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: 3d printing
>>
>>
>>
>> That and Laser cut metal gears are not the expensive either.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> 
>>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 10:44 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) <
>> legac...@iglide.net> wrote:
>>
>> Tim Krause has made gears in the past for some special pitches.  We will
>> never be in a position that we will have to rely on plastic gears.  But you
>> know, they are making 3D metal printing more and more affordable.
>>
>> Mike OK
>>
>> On 1/5/2023 10:31 PM, bulk...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>>
>> Me neither but if you had nothing else you would look at them, I’m not
>> doing it for me it’s for the future
>>
>> Members who cant get gears anywhere one day also for experiment pitches
>> and such
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
>> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>> *Sent:* Friday, 6 January 2023 3:14 PM
>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: 3d printing
>>
>>
>>
>> LOL, don't let him scare you, he wants challenges with it I'm sure.
>>
>> We have a couple local guys with 3d printing too that I may have try some
>> things. Not ready for plastic gears though.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> 
>>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 9:03 PM  wrote:
>>
>> My son bought a 3d printer yesterday he didn’t even have it out of the
>> box and I dropped 4 gears
>>
>> In front of him and said here print these to try it out for a start lol,
>> the standard gears and the .25 gears
>>
>> He said gee dad I haven’t even got it working yet, never too early to
>> start son lol I replied . unfortunately
>>
>> The 2x gears are beyond the printers capacity ,I been wanting to see if
>> legacy gears can be printed
>>
>> for some time now if this works might be an easy answer if we cant get
>> them anymore and hopefully

Re: 3d printing

[Tim Ziegler]

yup your right on that for sure.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Jan 8, 2023 at 4:08 PM  wrote:

> That article on metal 3d printing was extremely interesting that is
> defiantly the future printing in Aluminum,316L stainless steel and titanium
>
> amazing one day many years from now engineering machineing will be a thing
> of the past. Imagine 3d printed replacement body parts
>
> like hips knee joints ect ,3d printed cars planes even space craft its
> endless every thing we make from metal could be 3d printed
>
> if only the human race would stop squabbling and fighting amongst
> ourselves and  turn our attention to these types of technologies  there is
> nothing humans could not accomplish but instead we spend all our time and
> resources inventing things to kill each other.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Joseph Greenleaf
> *Sent:* Monday, 9 January 2023 4:09 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: 3d printing
>
>
>
> There are 3D printers that print in METAL. I’m sure it is a pricey
> meatball, but imagine the gears and such you could have!
>
> https://www.hubs.com/knowledge-base/introduction-metal-3d-printing/
>
>
>
>
>
> Joe G.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 8, 2023 at 12:04 PM Eric Gantner 
> wrote:
>
> I just recently setup my 3D printer, and I am learning ton.  Once you have
> your files made you can make it out of what ever need for the function you
> need.  All the work is in the file, I would keep at, especially for
> testing.
>
>
>
> Eric G.
>
>
>
> FYI
>
> I purchased Charlie’s Legacy 900 should be here in a week or two.
>
> On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 9:04:25 AM UTC-5 aussiman wrote:
>
> Ok I’m giving up the idea you guys talked me out of it
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  *On
> Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Saturday, 7 January 2023 12:47 AM
> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: 3d printing
>
>
>
> That and Laser cut metal gears are not the expensive either.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
> 
>
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>
> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 10:44 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) <
> legac...@iglide.net> wrote:
>
> Tim Krause has made gears in the past for some special pitches.  We will
> never be in a position that we will have to rely on plastic gears.  But you
> know, they are making 3D metal printing more and more affordable.
>
> Mike OK
>
> On 1/5/2023 10:31 PM, bulk...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>
> Me neither but if you had nothing else you would look at them, I’m not
> doing it for me it’s for the future
>
> Members who cant get gears anywhere one day also for experiment pitches
> and such
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  *On
> Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Friday, 6 January 2023 3:14 PM
> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: 3d printing
>
>
>
> LOL, don't let him scare you, he wants challenges with it I'm sure.
>
> We have a couple local guys with 3d printing too that I may have try some
> things. Not ready for plastic gears though.
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
> 
>
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>
> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 9:03 PM  wrote:
>
> My son bought a 3d printer yesterday he didn’t even have it out of the box
> and I dropped 4 gears
>
> In front of him and said here print these to try it out for a start lol,
> the standard gears and the .25 gears
>
> He said gee dad I haven’t even got it working yet, never too early to
> start son lol I replied . unfortunately
>
> The 2x gears are beyond the printers capacity ,I been wanting to see if
> legacy gears can be printed
>
> for some time now if this works might be an easy answer if we cant get
> them anymore and hopefully
>
> considerably cheaper too after that top hats if Delrin wire is available
> that is if my son is still talking to me lol
>
>
>
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RE: 3d printing

[bulkeley]

According to my son they do make a 3d printing cord from Delrin so 3d printing 
split nuts is most likely possible 

those and top hats will surly be popular to print. I still think gears are not 
totally out of the question now I have disassembled 

Some of the electric geared drive motors we use on our legacys and guess what 
some of the gears are made of in the gearbox?

Not always metal yes some are plastic lol there are some very strong plastics 
out there these days I’m just saying.

 

Bill

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 9 January 2023 4:12 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 3d printing

 

Eric would you be interested in trying to run some split nuts for the LOM's? 

What type of material do you use? Is it long wearing? What else can you create 
or have created?




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Jan 8, 2023 at 11:04 AM Eric Gantner mailto:chefswoodturn...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I just recently setup my 3D printer, and I am learning ton.  Once you have your 
files made you can make it out of what ever need for the function you need.  
All the work is in the file, I would keep at, especially for testing. 

 

Eric G.  

 

FYI 

I purchased Charlie’s Legacy 900 should be here in a week or two. 

On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 9:04:25 AM UTC-5 aussiman wrote:

Ok I’m giving up the idea you guys talked me out of it

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com   
mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > On 
Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Saturday, 7 January 2023 12:47 AM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: 3d printing

 

That and Laser cut metal gears are not the expensive either. 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798   shop

320-630-2243   cell

 

 

On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 10:44 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) mailto:legac...@iglide.net> > wrote:

Tim Krause has made gears in the past for some special pitches.  We will never 
be in a position that we will have to rely on plastic gears.  But you know, 
they are making 3D metal printing more and more affordable.  

Mike OK

On 1/5/2023 10:31 PM, bulk...@mmnet.com.au   wrote:

Me neither but if you had nothing else you would look at them, I’m not doing it 
for me it’s for the future 

Members who cant get gears anywhere one day also for experiment pitches and 
such 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com   
mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > On 
Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Friday, 6 January 2023 3:14 PM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: 3d printing

 

LOL, don't let him scare you, he wants challenges with it I'm sure. 

We have a couple local guys with 3d printing too that I may have try some 
things. Not ready for plastic gears though.

 

Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798   shop

320-630-2243   cell

 

 

On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 9:03 PM mailto:bulk...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

My son bought a 3d printer yesterday he didn’t even have it out of the box and 
I dropped 4 gears

In front of him and said here print these to try it out for a start lol, the 
standard gears and the .25 gears 

He said gee dad I haven’t even got it working yet, never too early to start son 
lol I replied . unfortunately

The 2x gears are beyond the printers capacity ,I been wanting to see if legacy 
gears can be printed

for some time now if this works might be an easy answer if we cant get them 
anymore and hopefully 

considerably cheaper too after that top hats if Delrin wire is available that 
is if my son is still talking to me lol

 

Bill

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Re: 3d printing

[Joseph Greenleaf]

The company behind the article does custom work, so someone needing a part
could send the data files to them and have them create the parts, plus a
few extra to sell and help recoup some of the expense.

Joe G.

On Sun, Jan 8, 2023 at 5:08 PM  wrote:

> That article on metal 3d printing was extremely interesting that is
> defiantly the future printing in Aluminum,316L stainless steel and titanium
>
> amazing one day many years from now engineering machineing will be a thing
> of the past. Imagine 3d printed replacement body parts
>
> like hips knee joints ect ,3d printed cars planes even space craft its
> endless every thing we make from metal could be 3d printed
>
> if only the human race would stop squabbling and fighting amongst
> ourselves and  turn our attention to these types of technologies  there is
> nothing humans could not accomplish but instead we spend all our time and
> resources inventing things to kill each other.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Joseph Greenleaf
> *Sent:* Monday, 9 January 2023 4:09 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: 3d printing
>
>
>
> There are 3D printers that print in METAL. I’m sure it is a pricey
> meatball, but imagine the gears and such you could have!
>
> https://www.hubs.com/knowledge-base/introduction-metal-3d-printing/
>
>
>
>
>
> Joe G.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 8, 2023 at 12:04 PM Eric Gantner 
> wrote:
>
> I just recently setup my 3D printer, and I am learning ton.  Once you have
> your files made you can make it out of what ever need for the function you
> need.  All the work is in the file, I would keep at, especially for
> testing.
>
>
>
> Eric G.
>
>
>
> FYI
>
> I purchased Charlie’s Legacy 900 should be here in a week or two.
>
> On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 9:04:25 AM UTC-5 aussiman wrote:
>
> Ok I’m giving up the idea you guys talked me out of it
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  *On
> Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Saturday, 7 January 2023 12:47 AM
> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: 3d printing
>
>
>
> That and Laser cut metal gears are not the expensive either.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
> 
>
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>
> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 10:44 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) <
> legac...@iglide.net> wrote:
>
> Tim Krause has made gears in the past for some special pitches.  We will
> never be in a position that we will have to rely on plastic gears.  But you
> know, they are making 3D metal printing more and more affordable.
>
> Mike OK
>
> On 1/5/2023 10:31 PM, bulk...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>
> Me neither but if you had nothing else you would look at them, I’m not
> doing it for me it’s for the future
>
> Members who cant get gears anywhere one day also for experiment pitches
> and such
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  *On
> Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Friday, 6 January 2023 3:14 PM
> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: 3d printing
>
>
>
> LOL, don't let him scare you, he wants challenges with it I'm sure.
>
> We have a couple local guys with 3d printing too that I may have try some
> things. Not ready for plastic gears though.
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
> 
>
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>
> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 9:03 PM  wrote:
>
> My son bought a 3d printer yesterday he didn’t even have it out of the box
> and I dropped 4 gears
>
> In front of him and said here print these to try it out for a start lol,
> the standard gears and the .25 gears
>
> He said gee dad I haven’t even got it working yet, never too early to
> start son lol I replied . unfortunately
>
> The 2x gears are beyond the printers capacity ,I been wanting to see if
> legacy gears can be printed
>
> for some time now if this works might be an easy answer if we cant get
> them anymore and hopefully
>
> considerably cheaper too after that top hats if Delrin wire is available
> that is if my son is still talking to me lol
>
>
>
> Bill
>
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RE: 3d printing

[bulkeley]

That article on metal 3d printing was extremely interesting that is defiantly 
the future printing in Aluminum,316L stainless steel and titanium 

amazing one day many years from now engineering machineing will be a thing of 
the past. Imagine 3d printed replacement body parts 

like hips knee joints ect ,3d printed cars planes even space craft its endless 
every thing we make from metal could be 3d printed 

if only the human race would stop squabbling and fighting amongst ourselves and 
 turn our attention to these types of technologies  there is nothing humans 
could not accomplish but instead we spend all our time and resources inventing 
things to kill each other.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Joseph Greenleaf
Sent: Monday, 9 January 2023 4:09 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 3d printing

 

There are 3D printers that print in METAL. I’m sure it is a pricey meatball, 
but imagine the gears and such you could have!

https://www.hubs.com/knowledge-base/introduction-metal-3d-printing/

 

 

Joe G. 

 

On Sun, Jan 8, 2023 at 12:04 PM Eric Gantner mailto:chefswoodturn...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I just recently setup my 3D printer, and I am learning ton.  Once you have your 
files made you can make it out of what ever need for the function you need.  
All the work is in the file, I would keep at, especially for testing. 

 

Eric G.  

 

FYI 

I purchased Charlie’s Legacy 900 should be here in a week or two. 

On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 9:04:25 AM UTC-5 aussiman wrote:

Ok I’m giving up the idea you guys talked me out of it

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com   
mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > On 
Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Saturday, 7 January 2023 12:47 AM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: 3d printing

 

That and Laser cut metal gears are not the expensive either. 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave. 

 

Foreston MN 56330 

 

 

320-294-5798   shop

320-630-2243   cell

 

 

On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 10:44 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) mailto:legac...@iglide.net> > wrote:

Tim Krause has made gears in the past for some special pitches.  We will never 
be in a position that we will have to rely on plastic gears.  But you know, 
they are making 3D metal printing more and more affordable.  

Mike OK

On 1/5/2023 10:31 PM, bulk...@mmnet.com.au   wrote:

Me neither but if you had nothing else you would look at them, I’m not doing it 
for me it’s for the future 

Members who cant get gears anywhere one day also for experiment pitches and 
such 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com   
mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > On 
Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Friday, 6 January 2023 3:14 PM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: 3d printing

 

LOL, don't let him scare you, he wants challenges with it I'm sure. 

We have a couple local guys with 3d printing too that I may have try some 
things. Not ready for plastic gears though.

 

Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave. 

 

Foreston MN 56330 

 

 

320-294-5798   shop

320-630-2243   cell

 

 

On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 9:03 PM mailto:bulk...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

My son bought a 3d printer yesterday he didn’t even have it out of the box and 
I dropped 4 gears

In front of him and said here print these to try it out for a start lol, the 
standard gears and the .25 gears 

He said gee dad I haven’t even got it working yet, never too early to start son 
lol I replied . unfortunately

The 2x gears are beyond the printers capacity ,I been wanting to see if legacy 
gears can be printed

for some time now if this works might be an easy answer if we cant get them 
anymore and hopefully 

considerably cheaper too after that top hats if Delrin wire is available that 
is if my son is still talking to me lol

 

Bill

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Re: old 900

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

 Hello Tom
Yes Shop Smith uses a 5/8" smooth bore shaft,Here are some links. 
https://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/catalog/l_lathefaceplates.htm 
https://www.pennstateind.com/store/L5818.html

You can see some photos on this link for our 
archives.https://groups.google.com/g/legacy-ornamental-mills/c/f1pvnNr4Seo/m/3hfpQ6_1AAAJ
 . 
So Yes I would cut your drive spur off and the wield a 5/8" shaft collar onto 
it. Turn down the 3/4" shaft so the adaptors would fit the shaft.  This way you 
will not have to change the bushings or have to worry about the gears mating up 
what I new shaft.  Just a turn of a set screw and change out the drive hub and 
or add a new tool to your Legacy.If you look on E-bay (crag's list, market 
place...) 5/8" smooth bore adaptors have been used a lot in the past. Shop 
Smith is just the last of its breed. You may be able to find old parts form 
Craftsman, and Montgomery Wards (home craft) tools sold as antiques.  Sometimes 
you can find a hole machine for less then you can buy the parts alone. I just 
saw an old ER (shop smith) on market place for under $100.00 with all the parts 
you will ever need to use. (chucks, spur, faceplate, Jackup's chuck...) Like 
this one. 
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3313511522249147/?hoisted=false=search_code=null_story_type=post=browse_serp%3A02503fd5-967a-4978-b1dd-0e4693f7b9f9
  or this 
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3221137544827683/?hoisted=false=search_code=null_story_type=post=browse_serp%3A02503fd5-967a-4978-b1dd-0e4693f7b9f9
  
and the old flee markets are always a good place to look as well. ;-)
Wish you luck.talk to you more latter.
C.A.G.




On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 02:59:04 PM EST, Tom B.C. Canada 
 wrote:  
 
 Curt,  thanks for those pics of the rotary table over on the other thread.
my head spindle is 3/4" diameter.So you mean I could get the 12 hole index head 
cut off, then the 3/4" spindle shaft turned downto 5/8" dia and the SSmith 
accessories would all slide on ?Then I'd have to weld an adapter shaft to the 
12 hole drive hub so I can use it on the 5/8" spindle.. I'm not familiar with 
SSmith parts. So I'd have to look into that and see if someare for sale up 
here.  Thanks for pointing out all these options.
I think I'd like to have the option of the MT2. ?
If you're not using your MT2 how do you hold on your drive hub?Can you just 
grab it with the chuck?On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 9:25:03 PM UTC-8 Curt 
George wrote:

 Hello Everyone.
Tom. what size or dia. is your Legacy headstock shaft (the part your drive hub 
is connected to?)
The easiest way to modify your headstock would be to turn the front part of 
your shaft to 5/8" dia.This would let you use all of the Shop Smith lathe 
parts. from a 1x8 TPI, lathe chucks and faceplates.modifying your drive  hub is 
a very easy process too. (that is to make your drive hub into a SS adapter, as 
well.)Then you would have it all. (except the MT2 part.) If you cant live 
without a MT2, then you will have to either make one (like I did.) or modify 
another Legacy's headstock to fit your machine. {NOTE: as a side note, I found 
that the MT2 parts are almost to big to fit the Legacy's headstock for adding 
ball bearings, But a MT1 taper is small enough to keep the Legacy housing of 
the headstock, while leaving room for ball bearings or bushings.}   
I think for the bang for the buck would be to go with the first idea.  Any 
machinist could easily re-work the spindle/drive shaft on your legacy, plus 
Modify the drive hub adaptor for little money. (Its an easy job for a steel 
lathe.)  As for myself. I almost never use the MT2 part of the headstock on my 
Legacy, the 1x8 thread and the drive hub are normally what I use.Legacy even 
made the REVO with a 5/8" shaft. So why not your Legacy too?
Have a good night.
C.A.G.


On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 08:09:54 PM EST, Tom B.C. Canada 
 wrote:  
 
 Curt,  I have that vid about the grape arbour so I know what you mean.I'm not 
sure just what I'd make with the table but I think the more options the better.
You made some great points about the drive hub and prong pieces being very 
useful.If I can get a 1x8 with morse2 spindle then I could modify my hub into a 
morse 2 so it couldslide into the spindle.  I'd like to have the chuck option 
as well. 
Very kind of you  to let me know about the possible table Tim-thank you.If I 
could get one then there'd be no need to build one I suppose.I've never seen 
the underside of the legacy rotary table.Is there a big bearing under there 
between the mounting plate and the gear- like a lazy susan bearing ?
On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 4:30:34 PM UTC-8 timjz...@gmail.com wrote:


Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell
On Sat, Jan 7, 2023 at 5:46 PM  wrote:


Tom if you think shipping to Canada  is difficult try to Australia but if you 
have good friends on this group all 

RE: 3d printing

[bulkeley]

Very interesting I most likely will try to do some test pieces 

 

And I’m glade you got a 900 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Eric Gantner
Sent: Monday, 9 January 2023 4:04 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: 3d printing

 

I just recently setup my 3D printer, and I am learning ton.  Once you have your 
files made you can make it out of what ever need for the function you need.  
All the work is in the file, I would keep at, especially for testing. 

 

Eric G.  

 

FYI 

I purchased Charlie’s Legacy 900 should be here in a week or two. 

On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 9:04:25 AM UTC-5 aussiman wrote:

Ok I’m giving up the idea you guys talked me out of it

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com   
mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > On 
Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Saturday, 7 January 2023 12:47 AM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: 3d printing

 

That and Laser cut metal gears are not the expensive either. 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798   shop

320-630-2243   cell

 

 

On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 10:44 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) mailto:legac...@iglide.net> > wrote:

Tim Krause has made gears in the past for some special pitches.  We will never 
be in a position that we will have to rely on plastic gears.  But you know, 
they are making 3D metal printing more and more affordable.  

Mike OK

On 1/5/2023 10:31 PM, bulk...@mmnet.com.au   wrote:

Me neither but if you had nothing else you would look at them, I’m not doing it 
for me it’s for the future 

Members who cant get gears anywhere one day also for experiment pitches and 
such 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com   
mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > On 
Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Friday, 6 January 2023 3:14 PM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: 3d printing

 

LOL, don't let him scare you, he wants challenges with it I'm sure. 

We have a couple local guys with 3d printing too that I may have try some 
things. Not ready for plastic gears though.

 

Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798   shop

320-630-2243   cell

 

 

On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 9:03 PM mailto:bulk...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

My son bought a 3d printer yesterday he didn’t even have it out of the box and 
I dropped 4 gears

In front of him and said here print these to try it out for a start lol, the 
standard gears and the .25 gears 

He said gee dad I haven’t even got it working yet, never too early to start son 
lol I replied . unfortunately

The 2x gears are beyond the printers capacity ,I been wanting to see if legacy 
gears can be printed

for some time now if this works might be an easy answer if we cant get them 
anymore and hopefully 

considerably cheaper too after that top hats if Delrin wire is available that 
is if my son is still talking to me lol

 

Bill

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Re: old 900

[Tom B.C. Canada]

Curt,  thanks for those pics of the rotary table over on the other thread.
my head spindle is 3/4" diameter.
So you mean I could get the 12 hole index head cut off, then the 3/4" 
spindle shaft turned down
to 5/8" dia and the SSmith accessories would all slide on ?
Then I'd have to weld an adapter shaft to the 12 hole drive hub so I can 
use it on the 5/8" spindle.. 
I'm not familiar with SSmith parts. So I'd have to look into that and see 
if some
are for sale up here.  Thanks for pointing out all these options.

I think I'd like to have the option of the MT2. ?

If you're not using your MT2 how do you hold on your drive hub?
Can you just grab it with the chuck?
On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 9:25:03 PM UTC-8 Curt George wrote:

> Hello Everyone.
>
> Tom. what size or dia. is your Legacy headstock shaft (the part your drive 
> hub is connected to?)
>
> The easiest way to modify your headstock would be to turn the front part 
> of your shaft to 5/8" dia.
> This would let you use all of the Shop Smith lathe parts. from a 1x8 TPI, 
> lathe chucks and faceplates.
> modifying your drive  hub is a very easy process too. (that is to make 
> your drive hub into a SS adapter, as well.)
> Then you would have it all. (except the MT2 part.) 
> If you cant live without a MT2, then you will have to either make one 
> (like I did.) or modify another Legacy's headstock to fit your machine.
>  
> *{NOTE:* as a side note, I found that the MT2 parts are almost to big to 
> fit the Legacy's headstock for adding ball bearings, But a MT1 taper is 
> small enough to keep the Legacy housing of the headstock, while leaving 
> room for ball bearings or bushings.}   
>
> *I think for the bang for the buck would be to go with the first idea.*  
> Any machinist could easily re-work the spindle/drive shaft on your legacy, 
> plus Modify the drive hub adaptor for little money. (Its an easy job for a 
> steel lathe.)  
> As for myself. I almost never use the MT2 part of the headstock on my 
> Legacy, the 1x8 thread and the drive hub are normally what I use.
> Legacy even made the REVO with a 5/8" shaft. So why not your Legacy too?
>
> Have a good night.
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 08:09:54 PM EST, Tom B.C. Canada <
> gol...@hotmail.com> wrote: 
>
>
> Curt,  I have that vid about the grape arbour so I know what you mean.
> I'm not sure just what I'd make with the table but I think the more 
> options the better.
>
> You made some great points about the drive hub and prong pieces being very 
> useful.
> If I can get a 1x8 with morse2 spindle then I could modify my hub into a 
> morse 2 so it could
> slide into the spindle.  I'd like to have the chuck option as well. 
>
> Very kind of you  to let me know about the possible table Tim-thank you.
> If I could get one then there'd be no need to build one I suppose.
> I've never seen the underside of the legacy rotary table.
> Is there a big bearing under there between the mounting plate and the 
> gear- like a lazy susan bearing ?
> On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 4:30:34 PM UTC-8 timjz...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> 
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
> On Sat, Jan 7, 2023 at 5:46 PM  wrote:
>
> Tom if you think shipping to Canada  is difficult try to Australia but if 
> you have good friends on this group all things are possible 
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  *On 
> Behalf Of *Tom B.C. Canada
> *Sent:* Sunday, 8 January 2023 6:24 AM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> *Subject:* Re: old 900
>
>  
>
> from my experience shipping things from the USA to here is a real pain.
>
> lots of ebay sellers won't even ship to Canada.
>
> many costs are involved and the seller's "shipping" cost is only to the 
> broker it seems
>
> because the UPS person always has their hand out for more money when they 
>
> arrive at the door. There's extra hidden charges for customs brokerage 
> fees and taxes etc.
>
> It's a gong show.
>
>  
>
> I'm coming up with ideas on redoing the whole machine.
>
>  
>
> Curt, thanks for the tail pic.   That looks like what I want to do.
>
> might buy a cheap old wood lathe and steal the tail and head spindle from 
> it.
>
>  
>
> Thanks to everyone for their contributions.
>
>  
>
>  
>
> On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 9:11:23 AM UTC-8 timjz...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Yeah but the rotary table is great to have. I have 2 of them and would 
> never trade them for anything. 
>
> You can make some really nice items on them. Rosettes are one of the 
> things I did a lot on. So if you have an opportunity 
>
> to get one or build one I strongly suggest you go for it. If you need 
> measurements or pix let me know I will get them for you. 
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>  
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>  
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>  

Re: 3d printing

[Tim Ziegler]

Wow yeah you can say that again Joe. Or even a water jet for gears. So many
Toys, I mean tools out there we should have lol.
But as long as Legacy makes gears I will stick with them.
Though just a reminder we can custom cut the X 4 gear set as LOM does not
make them any longer
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Jan 8, 2023 at 11:09 AM Joseph Greenleaf 
wrote:

> There are 3D printers that print in METAL. I’m sure it is a pricey
> meatball, but imagine the gears and such you could have!
> https://www.hubs.com/knowledge-base/introduction-metal-3d-printing/
>
>
> Joe G.
>
> On Sun, Jan 8, 2023 at 12:04 PM Eric Gantner 
> wrote:
>
>> I just recently setup my 3D printer, and I am learning ton.  Once you
>> have your files made you can make it out of what ever need for the function
>> you need.  All the work is in the file, I would keep at, especially for
>> testing.
>>
>> Eric G.
>>
>> FYI
>> I purchased Charlie’s Legacy 900 should be here in a week or two.
>>
>> On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 9:04:25 AM UTC-5 aussiman wrote:
>>
>>> Ok I’m giving up the idea you guys talked me out of it
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
>>> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, 7 January 2023 12:47 AM
>>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: 3d printing
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That and Laser cut metal gears are not the expensive either.
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>>
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>>
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>> 
>>>
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>>
>>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 10:44 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) <
>>> legac...@iglide.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Tim Krause has made gears in the past for some special pitches.  We will
>>> never be in a position that we will have to rely on plastic gears.  But you
>>> know, they are making 3D metal printing more and more affordable.
>>>
>>> Mike OK
>>>
>>> On 1/5/2023 10:31 PM, bulk...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>>>
>>> Me neither but if you had nothing else you would look at them, I’m not
>>> doing it for me it’s for the future
>>>
>>> Members who cant get gears anywhere one day also for experiment pitches
>>> and such
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>>>  *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>>> *Sent:* Friday, 6 January 2023 3:14 PM
>>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: 3d printing
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> LOL, don't let him scare you, he wants challenges with it I'm sure.
>>>
>>> We have a couple local guys with 3d printing too that I may have try
>>> some things. Not ready for plastic gears though.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>>
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>>
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>> 
>>>
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>>
>>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 9:03 PM  wrote:
>>>
>>> My son bought a 3d printer yesterday he didn’t even have it out of the
>>> box and I dropped 4 gears
>>>
>>> In front of him and said here print these to try it out for a start lol,
>>> the standard gears and the .25 gears
>>>
>>> He said gee dad I haven’t even got it working yet, never too early to
>>> start son lol I replied . unfortunately
>>>
>>> The 2x gears are beyond the printers capacity ,I been wanting to see if
>>> legacy gears can be printed
>>>
>>> for some time now if this works might be an easy answer if we cant get
>>> them anymore and hopefully
>>>
>>> considerably cheaper too after that top hats if Delrin wire is available
>>> that is if my son is still talking to me lol
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
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Re: 3d printing

[Tim Ziegler]

Eric would you be interested in trying to run some split nuts for the
LOM's?
What type of material do you use? Is it long wearing? What else can you
create or have created?

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Jan 8, 2023 at 11:04 AM Eric Gantner 
wrote:

> I just recently setup my 3D printer, and I am learning ton.  Once you have
> your files made you can make it out of what ever need for the function you
> need.  All the work is in the file, I would keep at, especially for
> testing.
>
> Eric G.
>
> FYI
> I purchased Charlie’s Legacy 900 should be here in a week or two.
>
> On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 9:04:25 AM UTC-5 aussiman wrote:
>
>> Ok I’m giving up the idea you guys talked me out of it
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
>> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>> *Sent:* Saturday, 7 January 2023 12:47 AM
>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: 3d printing
>>
>>
>>
>> That and Laser cut metal gears are not the expensive either.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>>
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 10:44 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) <
>> legac...@iglide.net> wrote:
>>
>> Tim Krause has made gears in the past for some special pitches.  We will
>> never be in a position that we will have to rely on plastic gears.  But you
>> know, they are making 3D metal printing more and more affordable.
>>
>> Mike OK
>>
>> On 1/5/2023 10:31 PM, bulk...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>>
>> Me neither but if you had nothing else you would look at them, I’m not
>> doing it for me it’s for the future
>>
>> Members who cant get gears anywhere one day also for experiment pitches
>> and such
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  *On
>> Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>> *Sent:* Friday, 6 January 2023 3:14 PM
>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: 3d printing
>>
>>
>>
>> LOL, don't let him scare you, he wants challenges with it I'm sure.
>>
>> We have a couple local guys with 3d printing too that I may have try some
>> things. Not ready for plastic gears though.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>>
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 9:03 PM  wrote:
>>
>> My son bought a 3d printer yesterday he didn’t even have it out of the
>> box and I dropped 4 gears
>>
>> In front of him and said here print these to try it out for a start lol,
>> the standard gears and the .25 gears
>>
>> He said gee dad I haven’t even got it working yet, never too early to
>> start son lol I replied . unfortunately
>>
>> The 2x gears are beyond the printers capacity ,I been wanting to see if
>> legacy gears can be printed
>>
>> for some time now if this works might be an easy answer if we cant get
>> them anymore and hopefully
>>
>> considerably cheaper too after that top hats if Delrin wire is available
>> that is if my son is still talking to me lol
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> --
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Re: 3d printing

[Joseph Greenleaf]

There are 3D printers that print in METAL. I’m sure it is a pricey
meatball, but imagine the gears and such you could have!
https://www.hubs.com/knowledge-base/introduction-metal-3d-printing/


Joe G.

On Sun, Jan 8, 2023 at 12:04 PM Eric Gantner 
wrote:

> I just recently setup my 3D printer, and I am learning ton.  Once you have
> your files made you can make it out of what ever need for the function you
> need.  All the work is in the file, I would keep at, especially for
> testing.
>
> Eric G.
>
> FYI
> I purchased Charlie’s Legacy 900 should be here in a week or two.
>
> On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 9:04:25 AM UTC-5 aussiman wrote:
>
>> Ok I’m giving up the idea you guys talked me out of it
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
>> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>> *Sent:* Saturday, 7 January 2023 12:47 AM
>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: 3d printing
>>
>>
>>
>> That and Laser cut metal gears are not the expensive either.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> 
>>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 10:44 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) <
>> legac...@iglide.net> wrote:
>>
>> Tim Krause has made gears in the past for some special pitches.  We will
>> never be in a position that we will have to rely on plastic gears.  But you
>> know, they are making 3D metal printing more and more affordable.
>>
>> Mike OK
>>
>> On 1/5/2023 10:31 PM, bulk...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>>
>> Me neither but if you had nothing else you would look at them, I’m not
>> doing it for me it’s for the future
>>
>> Members who cant get gears anywhere one day also for experiment pitches
>> and such
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  *On
>> Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>> *Sent:* Friday, 6 January 2023 3:14 PM
>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: 3d printing
>>
>>
>>
>> LOL, don't let him scare you, he wants challenges with it I'm sure.
>>
>> We have a couple local guys with 3d printing too that I may have try some
>> things. Not ready for plastic gears though.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> 
>>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 9:03 PM  wrote:
>>
>> My son bought a 3d printer yesterday he didn’t even have it out of the
>> box and I dropped 4 gears
>>
>> In front of him and said here print these to try it out for a start lol,
>> the standard gears and the .25 gears
>>
>> He said gee dad I haven’t even got it working yet, never too early to
>> start son lol I replied . unfortunately
>>
>> The 2x gears are beyond the printers capacity ,I been wanting to see if
>> legacy gears can be printed
>>
>> for some time now if this works might be an easy answer if we cant get
>> them anymore and hopefully
>>
>> considerably cheaper too after that top hats if Delrin wire is available
>> that is if my son is still talking to me lol
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
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Re: 3d printing

[Tim Ziegler]

Your exactly right Eric,

I can run anything on the laser as long as I have the file.  Or I create it
myself, nothing like CNC using G codes and
whatever involved there.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Jan 8, 2023 at 10:45 AM Eric Gantner 
wrote:

> Not real knowledgeable here, 3D printing, laser, CNC, it’s all about the
> file.  Once you have your file created
>
> On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 9:04:25 AM UTC-5 aussiman wrote:
>
>> Ok I’m giving up the idea you guys talked me out of it
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
>> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>> *Sent:* Saturday, 7 January 2023 12:47 AM
>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: 3d printing
>>
>>
>>
>> That and Laser cut metal gears are not the expensive either.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>>
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 10:44 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) <
>> legac...@iglide.net> wrote:
>>
>> Tim Krause has made gears in the past for some special pitches.  We will
>> never be in a position that we will have to rely on plastic gears.  But you
>> know, they are making 3D metal printing more and more affordable.
>>
>> Mike OK
>>
>> On 1/5/2023 10:31 PM, bulk...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>>
>> Me neither but if you had nothing else you would look at them, I’m not
>> doing it for me it’s for the future
>>
>> Members who cant get gears anywhere one day also for experiment pitches
>> and such
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  *On
>> Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>> *Sent:* Friday, 6 January 2023 3:14 PM
>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: 3d printing
>>
>>
>>
>> LOL, don't let him scare you, he wants challenges with it I'm sure.
>>
>> We have a couple local guys with 3d printing too that I may have try some
>> things. Not ready for plastic gears though.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>>
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 9:03 PM  wrote:
>>
>> My son bought a 3d printer yesterday he didn’t even have it out of the
>> box and I dropped 4 gears
>>
>> In front of him and said here print these to try it out for a start lol,
>> the standard gears and the .25 gears
>>
>> He said gee dad I haven’t even got it working yet, never too early to
>> start son lol I replied . unfortunately
>>
>> The 2x gears are beyond the printers capacity ,I been wanting to see if
>> legacy gears can be printed
>>
>> for some time now if this works might be an easy answer if we cant get
>> them anymore and hopefully
>>
>> considerably cheaper too after that top hats if Delrin wire is available
>> that is if my son is still talking to me lol
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> --
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Re: 3d printing

[Eric Gantner]

I just recently setup my 3D printer, and I am learning ton.  Once you have 
your files made you can make it out of what ever need for the function you 
need.  All the work is in the file, I would keep at, especially for 
testing. 

Eric G.  

FYI 
I purchased Charlie’s Legacy 900 should be here in a week or two. 

On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 9:04:25 AM UTC-5 aussiman wrote:

> Ok I’m giving up the idea you guys talked me out of it
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  *On 
> Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Saturday, 7 January 2023 12:47 AM
> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: 3d printing
>
>  
>
> That and Laser cut metal gears are not the expensive either. 
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>  
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>  
>
> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>
> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>
>  
>
>  
>
> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 10:44 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) <
> legac...@iglide.net> wrote:
>
> Tim Krause has made gears in the past for some special pitches.  We will 
> never be in a position that we will have to rely on plastic gears.  But you 
> know, they are making 3D metal printing more and more affordable.  
>
> Mike OK
>
> On 1/5/2023 10:31 PM, bulk...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>
> Me neither but if you had nothing else you would look at them, I’m not 
> doing it for me it’s for the future 
>
> Members who cant get gears anywhere one day also for experiment pitches 
> and such 
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  *On 
> Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Friday, 6 January 2023 3:14 PM
> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: 3d printing
>
>  
>
> LOL, don't let him scare you, he wants challenges with it I'm sure. 
>
> We have a couple local guys with 3d printing too that I may have try some 
> things. Not ready for plastic gears though.
>
>  
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>  
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>  
>
> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>
> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>
>  
>
>  
>
> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 9:03 PM  wrote:
>
> My son bought a 3d printer yesterday he didn’t even have it out of the box 
> and I dropped 4 gears
>
> In front of him and said here print these to try it out for a start lol, 
> the standard gears and the .25 gears 
>
> He said gee dad I haven’t even got it working yet, never too early to 
> start son lol I replied . unfortunately
>
> The 2x gears are beyond the printers capacity ,I been wanting to see if 
> legacy gears can be printed
>
> for some time now if this works might be an easy answer if we cant get 
> them anymore and hopefully 
>
> considerably cheaper too after that top hats if Delrin wire is available 
> that is if my son is still talking to me lol
>
>  
>
> Bill
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Re: old 900

[Tim Ziegler]

Yeah I see the drive gears, just not any of the Standard gear set, or
optional ones.  X 2 or .25 sets.
I have another guy that could use the drive gears too.
thanks Mike


Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Jan 8, 2023 at 8:55 AM Mike Newman  wrote:

> Hey Tim on the unit you are looking at within 1.5 hrs of you.  If it is
> the same one that I recently saw up in your area go back and take a look at
> the photo showing the whole length of the machine.  I think the drive gears
> are hanging on a nail on the lower left front part of the stand.   There
> was no single photo of them but the front photo may show them.  Im still
> new enough to not know what I am seeing but my guess is those are the drive
> gears.
>
> On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 1:33:36 AM UTC-6 aussiman wrote:
>
>> Considering the morse taper is primarily used for the drive hub I’m
>> thinking your idea would work well curt , the only other thing
>>
>> the morse taper I can think of is fine adjustments of the drive hub to
>> line it up flat if you put the index hub on not quite strait
>>
>>
>>
>> I got around that problem on the revo by welding a locking collar on the
>> back of the revo drive hub but a slip on sleeve will have a screw
>>
>> You can loosen to rotate the work if needed so I see no reason why Curts
>> idea won’t work
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>
>> *Sent:* Sunday, 8 January 2023 4:25 PM
>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: old 900
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello Everyone.
>>
>>
>>
>> Tom. what size or dia. is your Legacy headstock shaft (the part your
>> drive hub is connected to?)
>>
>>
>>
>> The easiest way to modify your headstock would be to turn the front part
>> of your shaft to 5/8" dia.
>>
>> This would let you use all of the Shop Smith lathe parts. from a 1x8 TPI,
>> lathe chucks and faceplates.
>>
>> modifying your drive  hub is a very easy process too. (that is to make
>> your drive hub into a SS adapter, as well.)
>>
>> Then you would have it all. (except the MT2 part.)
>>
>> If you cant live without a MT2, then you will have to either make one
>> (like I did.) or modify another Legacy's headstock to fit your machine.
>>
>>
>>
>> *{NOTE:* as a side note, I found that the MT2 parts are almost to big to
>> fit the Legacy's headstock for adding ball bearings, But a MT1 taper is
>> small enough to keep the Legacy housing of the headstock, while leaving
>> room for ball bearings or bushings.}
>>
>>
>>
>> *I think for the bang for the buck would be to go with the first idea.*
>> Any machinist could easily re-work the spindle/drive shaft on your legacy,
>> plus Modify the drive hub adaptor for little money. (Its an easy job for a
>> steel lathe.)
>>
>> As for myself. I almost never use the MT2 part of the headstock on my
>> Legacy, the 1x8 thread and the drive hub are normally what I use.
>>
>> Legacy even made the REVO with a 5/8" shaft. So why not your Legacy too?
>>
>>
>>
>> Have a good night.
>>
>>
>>
>> C.A.G.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 08:09:54 PM EST, Tom B.C. Canada <
>> gol...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Curt,  I have that vid about the grape arbour so I know what you mean.
>>
>> I'm not sure just what I'd make with the table but I think the more
>> options the better.
>>
>>
>>
>> You made some great points about the drive hub and prong pieces being
>> very useful.
>>
>> If I can get a 1x8 with morse2 spindle then I could modify my hub into a
>> morse 2 so it could
>>
>> slide into the spindle.  I'd like to have the chuck option as well.
>>
>>
>>
>> Very kind of you  to let me know about the possible table Tim-thank you.
>>
>> If I could get one then there'd be no need to build one I suppose.
>>
>> I've never seen the underside of the legacy rotary table.
>>
>> Is there a big bearing under there between the mounting plate and the
>> gear- like a lazy susan bearing ?
>>
>> On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 4:30:34 PM UTC-8 timjz...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>>
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 7, 2023 at 5:46 PM  wrote:
>>
>> Tom if you think shipping to Canada  is difficult try to Australia but if
>> you have good friends on this group all things are possible
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
>> *On Behalf Of *Tom B.C. Canada
>> *Sent:* Sunday, 8 January 2023 6:24 AM
>> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>> *Subject:* Re: old 900
>>
>>
>>
>> from my experience shipping things from the USA to here is a real pain.
>>
>> lots of ebay sellers won't even ship to Canada.
>>
>> many costs are involved and the seller's "shipping" cost is 

Re: 3d printing

[Eric Gantner]

Not real knowledgeable here, 3D printing, laser, CNC, it’s all about the 
file.  Once you have your file created

On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 9:04:25 AM UTC-5 aussiman wrote:

> Ok I’m giving up the idea you guys talked me out of it
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  *On 
> Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Saturday, 7 January 2023 12:47 AM
> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: 3d printing
>
>  
>
> That and Laser cut metal gears are not the expensive either. 
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>  
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>  
>
> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>
> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>
>  
>
>  
>
> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 10:44 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) <
> legac...@iglide.net> wrote:
>
> Tim Krause has made gears in the past for some special pitches.  We will 
> never be in a position that we will have to rely on plastic gears.  But you 
> know, they are making 3D metal printing more and more affordable.  
>
> Mike OK
>
> On 1/5/2023 10:31 PM, bulk...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>
> Me neither but if you had nothing else you would look at them, I’m not 
> doing it for me it’s for the future 
>
> Members who cant get gears anywhere one day also for experiment pitches 
> and such 
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  *On 
> Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Friday, 6 January 2023 3:14 PM
> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: 3d printing
>
>  
>
> LOL, don't let him scare you, he wants challenges with it I'm sure. 
>
> We have a couple local guys with 3d printing too that I may have try some 
> things. Not ready for plastic gears though.
>
>  
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>  
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>  
>
> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>
> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>
>  
>
>  
>
> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 9:03 PM  wrote:
>
> My son bought a 3d printer yesterday he didn’t even have it out of the box 
> and I dropped 4 gears
>
> In front of him and said here print these to try it out for a start lol, 
> the standard gears and the .25 gears 
>
> He said gee dad I haven’t even got it working yet, never too early to 
> start son lol I replied . unfortunately
>
> The 2x gears are beyond the printers capacity ,I been wanting to see if 
> legacy gears can be printed
>
> for some time now if this works might be an easy answer if we cant get 
> them anymore and hopefully 
>
> considerably cheaper too after that top hats if Delrin wire is available 
> that is if my son is still talking to me lol
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
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Re: Legacy's rotary table.

[Tim Ziegler]

Yeah not to quick about taking that apart.

Tim

On Sun, Jan 8, 2023, 1:37 AM  wrote:

> The pads Tim is wanting to see is between the table top and the base you
> have to dismantle the rotary table to see it
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, 8 January 2023 4:41 PM
> *To:* Legacy ornamental mills 
> *Subject:* Legacy's rotary table.
>
>
>
> Hello Everyone.
>
>
>
> Tim this question on the Rotary table, should be on it's own topic.
>
>
>
> I don't have much but here is what I have.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
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Re: Legacy's rotary table.

[Tim Ziegler]

Thanks Curt


On Sat, Jan 7, 2023, 11:48 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>
> "O"  one small note.
> The 3/8" all-thread rod and the plywood were my first mod.'s on this
> table.  The wood, made it fit snugly in-between my rails of the Legacy, and
> the 3/8" rod was used to snug down a brace holding it onto the rails.  (I
> hated trying to line up that those T nuts in the rails.)
> C.A.G.
>
> On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 12:40:52 AM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy
> Ornamental Mills  wrote:
>
>
> Hello Everyone.
>
> Tim this question on the Rotary table, should be on it's own topic.
>
> I don't have much but here is what I have.
>
> C.A.G.
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Re: old 900

[Mike Newman]

Hey Tim on the unit you are looking at within 1.5 hrs of you.  If it is the 
same one that I recently saw up in your area go back and take a look at the 
photo showing the whole length of the machine.  I think the drive gears are 
hanging on a nail on the lower left front part of the stand.   There was no 
single photo of them but the front photo may show them.  Im still new 
enough to not know what I am seeing but my guess is those are the drive 
gears.

On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 1:33:36 AM UTC-6 aussiman wrote:

> Considering the morse taper is primarily used for the drive hub I’m 
> thinking your idea would work well curt , the only other thing
>
> the morse taper I can think of is fine adjustments of the drive hub to 
> line it up flat if you put the index hub on not quite strait 
>
>  
>
> I got around that problem on the revo by welding a locking collar on the 
> back of the revo drive hub but a slip on sleeve will have a screw
>
> You can loosen to rotate the work if needed so I see no reason why Curts 
> idea won’t work
>
>  
>
> Bill  
>
>  
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> 
> *Sent:* Sunday, 8 January 2023 4:25 PM
> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: old 900
>
>  
>
> Hello Everyone.
>
>  
>
> Tom. what size or dia. is your Legacy headstock shaft (the part your drive 
> hub is connected to?)
>
>  
>
> The easiest way to modify your headstock would be to turn the front part 
> of your shaft to 5/8" dia.
>
> This would let you use all of the Shop Smith lathe parts. from a 1x8 TPI, 
> lathe chucks and faceplates.
>
> modifying your drive  hub is a very easy process too. (that is to make 
> your drive hub into a SS adapter, as well.)
>
> Then you would have it all. (except the MT2 part.) 
>
> If you cant live without a MT2, then you will have to either make one 
> (like I did.) or modify another Legacy's headstock to fit your machine.
>
>  
>
> *{NOTE:* as a side note, I found that the MT2 parts are almost to big to 
> fit the Legacy's headstock for adding ball bearings, But a MT1 taper is 
> small enough to keep the Legacy housing of the headstock, while leaving 
> room for ball bearings or bushings.}   
>
>  
>
> *I think for the bang for the buck would be to go with the first idea.*  
> Any machinist could easily re-work the spindle/drive shaft on your legacy, 
> plus Modify the drive hub adaptor for little money. (Its an easy job for a 
> steel lathe.)  
>
> As for myself. I almost never use the MT2 part of the headstock on my 
> Legacy, the 1x8 thread and the drive hub are normally what I use.
>
> Legacy even made the REVO with a 5/8" shaft. So why not your Legacy too?
>
>  
>
> Have a good night.
>
>  
>
> C.A.G.
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 08:09:54 PM EST, Tom B.C. Canada <
> gol...@hotmail.com> wrote: 
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Curt,  I have that vid about the grape arbour so I know what you mean.
>
> I'm not sure just what I'd make with the table but I think the more 
> options the better.
>
>  
>
> You made some great points about the drive hub and prong pieces being very 
> useful.
>
> If I can get a 1x8 with morse2 spindle then I could modify my hub into a 
> morse 2 so it could
>
> slide into the spindle.  I'd like to have the chuck option as well. 
>
>  
>
> Very kind of you  to let me know about the possible table Tim-thank you.
>
> If I could get one then there'd be no need to build one I suppose.
>
> I've never seen the underside of the legacy rotary table.
>
> Is there a big bearing under there between the mounting plate and the 
> gear- like a lazy susan bearing ?
>
> On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 4:30:34 PM UTC-8 timjz...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> 
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>  
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>  
>
> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>
> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>
>  
>
> On Sat, Jan 7, 2023 at 5:46 PM  wrote:
>
> Tom if you think shipping to Canada  is difficult try to Australia but if 
> you have good friends on this group all things are possible 
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  *On 
> Behalf Of *Tom B.C. Canada
> *Sent:* Sunday, 8 January 2023 6:24 AM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> *Subject:* Re: old 900
>
>  
>
> from my experience shipping things from the USA to here is a real pain.
>
> lots of ebay sellers won't even ship to Canada.
>
> many costs are involved and the seller's "shipping" cost is only to the 
> broker it seems
>
> because the UPS person always has their hand out for more money when they 
>
> arrive at the door. There's extra hidden charges for customs brokerage 
> fees and taxes etc.
>
> It's a gong show.
>
>  
>
> I'm coming up with ideas on redoing the whole machine.
>
>  
>
> Curt, thanks for the tail pic.   That looks like what I want to do.
>
> might buy a cheap old wood lathe and steal the tail and head spindle from 
> it.
>

Re: Legacy's rotary table.

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

 Good morning guys.
Yes I did understand that, but I no longer own this table, and these were the 
only photo's that I had. 
When I replaced the top, I did not take photos at that time. But you are 
correct there are 4 slicks that balance the edges of the table.  Its a pretty 
simple design, over all.  The gears make it nice, but they too are no 
nessasary. In the early days of this group, We had a man, make a table out of 
plywood.I don't remember the exact size of the table, but it was large enough 
so the edges of the table went past the rails of the Legacy, He used this 
projection as a hand grip to turn the table. so his hands were no-where close 
to the cutting of the router and  wood.Simple but effective way to get the job 
done.  (KISS Principle.)(  Keep, It , Simple, Stupid.)
Have a good day.
C.A.G.
On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 07:29:02 AM EST, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote:  
 
 Thanks Curt that's pretty much what I'd have done too. I didn't want to 
separate this from Tom's overall discussion and questions. Thanks for providing 
pix
Tim

On Sat, Jan 7, 2023, 11:40 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
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Hello Everyone.
Tim this question on the Rotary table, should be on it's own topic.
I don't have much but here is what I have.
C.A.G.

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Re: Legacy's rotary table.

[Tim Ziegler]

Thanks Curt that's pretty much what I'd have done too. I didn't want to
separate this from Tom's overall discussion and questions.
Thanks for providing pix

Tim


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>
> Tim this question on the Rotary table, should be on it's own topic.
>
> I don't have much but here is what I have.
>
> C.A.G.
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