Re: Balls
Bii Would your set up be able to cut a complete round ball 1.5 inches dia without removing the stock from the chuck . How do you find the smaller Tritons are they as well equipped as the TRA 001 ?? On Sunday, September 25, 2016 at 9:40:16 AM UTC+1, aussiman wrote: > > The router did tilt up to about 45 degrees each way for just that reason > for extra reach > > Bill > > > > *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com [mailto: > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of * > rchrd@gmail.com > *Sent:* Sunday, 25 September 2016 6:27 PM > *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills > *Cc:* mwfo...@earthlink.net > *Subject:* Re: Balls > > > > Bill > > Mac I also agree > > I have seen your set up with the Triton mounted on the swing brackets > , excellent idea, What I am thinking is ,what if the router is able to > cut the complete ball, maybe tilt the router body somehow so that it does > not hit the chuck. when doing the final cut > > > > I use the big Triton on the Woodchuck, it is great for setting the depth > control using the stepped stops. > > I have been thinking of getting a smaller Triton and copying your set up > as shown in your pics. > > Richard > > > On Saturday, September 24, 2016 at 4:15:05 PM UTC+1, Va Oak wrote: > > Bill, > I did not know about your project page on the Legacy site. > VERY NICE! > The "ball" (object) at the very end is gorgeous! What wood did you use? > Thanks for sharing. > Mac > -- > -- > > -Original Message- > From: Bill Bulkeley > Sent: Sep 24, 2016 10:48 AM > To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Balls > > Richard have you considered using a roundover bit like > > https://www.magnate.net/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=7517 > > assuming your ball your making is 11/2 inches diameter instead of trying > to template cut one. > > Or even > > https://www.magnate.net/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=1212 > > with a little modifying of the bit you could hold the ball between centres > like on the lathe. > > Or make up something like i did to machine balls on the legacy > > http://ornamentalmills.com/Bill_Bulkeley/ball_attachment/index.html > template turning on the mills is a little limited in repeated accuracy I > feel. I have had success only with broad sweeping curves with the side > cutting method. Sometimes the wood lathe is still the best way to go but > that doesn’t stop us mill owners from trying J > > > > Bill > > *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com [mailto: > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *CURTIS GEORGE > *Sent:* Saturday, 24 September 2016 10:46 PM > *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: Balls > > > > Good morning Richard > > I call it "House Rules" You need to work with your equipment, and learn > all for its quirks. Every machine handles just a little differently. (as > far as the tail stock goes.) > > > > I did understand your Ball problem. > > The wooden ball that you are making are some what egg shaped/elliptical, > meaning something is slightly off. Perhaps its the depth of cut being > slightly off, or your template is just a hair to one side. Perhaps its the > router bit its self, that's the problem??? What I was suggesting is to > make a number of your elliptical balls, make them all the same, then using > a jam chuck and turn those balls 90 deg. and re-cutting those balls, truing > them up. (making them all round.) > > > > Another idea, Is Can you take a few pictures of your set up? Perhaps > someone could see something more in the way your machine is laid out? > > The template follower is a very nice tool, and can be a lot of fun to use. > ( I cant wait to see all of your skittles that you've made.) > > > > As a General rule of thumb. when I make a lot of anything, I use the mass > production idea. meaning I make one cut exactly the same on every part I'm > making, and then move on to the next cut. this idea keeps everything the > same, If I'm slightly off, everything is slightly off .Using this idea > Makes, it much easier to fine tune the problem. To many people try to make > one idiom form start to finish and then repeat the process. > > I find that I get better uniformity using this method, "ONE CUT" Not One > part at a time. > > Richard I wish you the best of luck with this project. I cant wait and > Hear how everything works out of you. > > > > ONE MORE IDEA. keep everything as is. and use your lathe to do the fine
Re: Balls
Bill Mac I also agree I have seen your set up with the Triton mounted on the swing brackets , excellent idea, What I am thinking is ,what if the router is able to cut the complete ball, maybe tilt the router body somehow so that it does not hit the chuck. when doing the final cut I use the big Triton on the Woodchuck, it is great for setting the depth control using the stepped stops. I have been thinking of getting a smaller Triton and copying your set up as shown in your pics. Richard On Saturday, September 24, 2016 at 4:15:05 PM UTC+1, Va Oak wrote: > > Bill, > I did not know about your project page on the Legacy site. > VERY NICE! > The "ball" (object) at the very end is gorgeous! What wood did you use? > Thanks for sharing. > Mac > -- > -- > > -Original Message- > From: Bill Bulkeley > Sent: Sep 24, 2016 10:48 AM > To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Balls > > Richard have you considered using a roundover bit like > > https://www.magnate.net/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=7517 > > assuming your ball your making is 11/2 inches diameter instead of trying > to template cut one. > > Or even > > https://www.magnate.net/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=1212 > > with a little modifying of the bit you could hold the ball between centres > like on the lathe. > > Or make up something like i did to machine balls on the legacy > > http://ornamentalmills.com/Bill_Bulkeley/ball_attachment/index.html > template turning on the mills is a little limited in repeated accuracy I > feel. I have had success only with broad sweeping curves with the side > cutting method. Sometimes the wood lathe is still the best way to go but > that doesn’t stop us mill owners from trying J > > > > Bill > > *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com [mailto: > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *CURTIS > GEORGE > *Sent:* Saturday, 24 September 2016 10:46 PM > *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: Balls > > > > Good morning Richard > > I call it "House Rules" You need to work with your equipment, and learn > all for its quirks. Every machine handles just a little differently. (as > far as the tail stock goes.) > > > > I did understand your Ball problem. > > The wooden ball that you are making are some what egg shaped/elliptical, > meaning something is slightly off. Perhaps its the depth of cut being > slightly off, or your template is just a hair to one side. Perhaps its the > router bit its self, that's the problem??? What I was suggesting is to > make a number of your elliptical balls, make them all the same, then using > a jam chuck and turn those balls 90 deg. and re-cutting those balls, truing > them up. (making them all round.) > > > > Another idea, Is Can you take a few pictures of your set up? Perhaps > someone could see something more in the way your machine is laid out? > > The template follower is a very nice tool, and can be a lot of fun to use. > ( I cant wait to see all of your skittles that you've made.) > > > > As a General rule of thumb. when I make a lot of anything, I use the mass > production idea. meaning I make one cut exactly the same on every part I'm > making, and then move on to the next cut. this idea keeps everything the > same, If I'm slightly off, everything is slightly off .Using this idea > Makes, it much easier to fine tune the problem. To many people try to make > one idiom form start to finish and then repeat the process. > > I find that I get better uniformity using this method, "ONE CUT" Not One > part at a time. > > Richard I wish you the best of luck with this project. I cant wait and > Hear how everything works out of you. > > > ONE MORE IDEA. keep everything as is. and use your lathe to do the fine > touch ups? If you use the WC to rough out the balls, and then true them up > on A different machine,(lathe, belt sander...? ) You might find it quicker > switching machines, then it would be to, "Find your, needle in the hay > stack" (so to speak.) > > > Have a great day. > > > C.A.G > > > -- > > *From: *"rchrd ellis1" > > *To: *"Legacy Ornamental Mills" > > *Sent: *Saturday, September 24, 2016 2:40:51 AM > *Subject: *Re: Balls > > > > Hi Curt > > I have no trouble turning a ball between centers on my normal lathe, > exactly as you described, between two jam chucks, made out of some very > hard boxwood (Buxus ) What I am trying to do is use the Woodchuck
Re: Balls
Hi Curt I have no trouble turning a ball between centers on my normal lathe, exactly as you described, between two jam chucks, made out of some very hard boxwood (Buxus ) What I am trying to do is use the Woodchuck instead of the Lathe. I have done a few mods to it . The way I do pattern work is from the rear of the Woodchuck ( opposite side to the leadscrew ) I stand there and pull the router towards me and the pattern, the spindle turning at about 80 r.p.m. and the leadscrew going very slow. Using this method I can see just where the roller bearing is , or as in this ball turning experiment ,Stylus peg. The depth of cut is controlled by a stop that touches on the axis screw nut. I just did 18 skittles by this method and it is so easy, One of my Mods was to the tailstock quick action lever. It flicked up a couple of times dropping the wood whilst turning. The red plastic now has a metal clamp around it and a rare earth magnet fastened to the tailstock. holds it quite firm now. I do not like the lever type control, would rather have a wheel as per normal lathe. When tightening the lever it tend to tip the tailstock backwards and that lifts the wood up at that end,,also it can put too much pressure onto the headstock bearings that I have just replaced with some oilite bushes . Roger kindly pointed out that my description of my skittle balls need a better explanation The balls once I turn them are not a true round ball shape but look as if they have been squashed into an elliptical shape. I wish I was getting paid by the hour for this job, or shall I say caper!!! Richard On Friday, September 23, 2016 at 6:02:35 PM UTC+1, rchrd@gmail.com wrote: > > Hi All > I am at a loss to understand why, when I try to turn balls from some pine > to go with some kids skittles I have made, they come out looking like rugby > balls instead of spherical shape. > The wood is 1 1/2 dia. and is held in a chuck,--- router cutter is 1/2 > inch dia. the stylus on the end of the router carriage is 1/8 inch dia > I use a metal washer /plate of the same dia. as the wood as a pattern . > The ball as I have said before comes off oval in shape it parts of very > easily, I do the end of the wood first then travel back to the washer to do > the other side of the ball, it just drops off into the sawdust, which was > a surprise > Do I need a larger plate washer or what do you recommend I dois there > a magic formula for the diameters of the cutter plate and stylus ??? > Richard > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Balls
Hi All I am at a loss to understand why, when I try to turn balls from some pine to go with some kids skittles I have made, they come out looking like rugby balls instead of spherical shape. The wood is 1 1/2 dia. and is held in a chuck,--- router cutter is 1/2 inch dia. the stylus on the end of the router carriage is 1/8 inch dia I use a metal washer /plate of the same dia. as the wood as a pattern . The ball as I have said before comes off oval in shape it parts of very easily, I do the end of the wood first then travel back to the washer to do the other side of the ball, it just drops off into the sawdust, which was a surprise Do I need a larger plate washer or what do you recommend I dois there a magic formula for the diameters of the cutter plate and stylus ??? Richard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: new legacy sight
Very interesting, however, I wonder how long it took to work out the program, a long time is my guess. an hour or two??? just for one or two canes I would think a good operator on a manual machine could do it in less time, who wants dozens/ hundreds of the same walking cane ( called a stick in the U.K.) The cutter - does it have to be changed manually? On Tuesday, September 13, 2016 at 11:28:11 AM UTC+1, aussiman wrote: > > Looks like legacy has a new sight and a new promotional video at least i > have not seen this before > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCcr0nBHy-Q > > > > also here is a video of theirs making a hammer cane good techniques here > we can do manualy > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1Gj13SPfuM > > > > > > Bill > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Rotary Table
Thanks for the replies re: the Rotary Table. and Thanks to Curtis for the utube ,of the making of the worm gear, will give it a go. Just started using the Woodchuck to make a walking cane (called a stick in the U.K. ) Cane is what the teachers used on me when I misbehaved!! Need now, to get all the electrical sockets sorted, (Transformer 230/110 volts, Triton Router, Spindle motor, and the Vacuum cleaner /Router. Oh! what a lovely noise !!!??? Cheers Richard P.S. I wonder how many Legacy owners there are in the U.K.. Bill did say that he thinks he is the only one in all of Auusie. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Hey New Guys!
Hi Curtis, Funny you should mention a V8--- I did have ,for a very short while a U.S.made Jeep Honcho, I think it had a 3 speed auto box,very wide tires and was next to useless for driving through water and especially muddy water, that I frequently had to do. Forestry roads and tracks. The front tires hit the puddles and it came straight over the windshield, Could not see where I was going for a few seconds/minutes I sold it to someone in Virginia Water in the U.K. near London ( very apt ) Then I bought a V.W. Syncro pick-up and it was four wheel drive diff.locks front and rear, great truck and I kept it and *well used* it for 21 years,no more dirty windscreens. My next job for the Woodchuck is to give it a Rotary Table, when I can think how to make it out of my plywood, the gears may be my problem !!!?? Regards Richard On Tuesday, August 30, 2016 at 10:38:48 PM UTC+1, Curtis wrote: > > WOW! I was only joking about a V-8 engine! Your 440 beats that any day of > the week! > > Good job Richard! > Keep up the good work. > > C.A.G. > > ------ > *From: *"rchrd ellis1" > > *To: *"Legacy Ornamental Mills" > > *Cc: *curtg...@wowway.com > *Sent: *Tuesday, August 30, 2016 2:29:04 PM > *Subject: *Re: Hey New Guys! > > Curtis > The paint is " Two Pack" Ford radiant red, funny you should mention > automobiles (old bangers ) The paint I got from my friend who was painting > an old M.G. Sports car. He get some of the cars that he rebuilds from the > U,S.A. > Myself I would rather have a newer V.W. > The Paint is very hard, but time will tell !!?? > I enclose another pic of the spindle drive set up, 440Volt but driven by > an inverter that converts it to single phase220 volt. > I can control the speed from next to nothing right up to far too much for > the Woodchuck. > The caster wheels, each with a brake, are very handy for moving it around > The drive pulley for the spindle is made from Birch Ply painted with > aluminium paint.All the best > Richard > > On Tuesday, August 30, 2016 at 2:21:39 PM UTC+1, Curtis wrote: >> >> Hello Richard. >> I like it ! What kind of paint did you use? My only concern is, if the >> paint will scratch or peal off, But she dose look Pretty! Remember to use >> lots of wax on the rails to keep them lubricated. >> I cant wait to see some projects coming off of this Newly restored Wood >> Chuck. >> What's Next? adding a V-8 engine , or having your gears chromed out ? >> ;-p >> >> I'm sorry, (I hope my comments are not mistaken here.) You see, I live >> right off of Woodward ave. the home of the Dream Cruse. (Motor city, >> Detroit MI. ) I see muscle cars, and all kinds of hot rod every day through >> out the summer months. I think , Your new Candy Apple red paint job, would >> make any, motor head go jealous. ;-) >> >> Good job Richard. >> >> C.A.G. >> >> -- >> *From: *"rchrd ellis1" > <http://mail2.wowway.net/JAVASCRIPT-BLOCKED>> >> *To: *"Legacy Ornamental Mills" > <http://mail2.wowway.net/JAVASCRIPT-BLOCKED>> >> *Cc: *legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com >> <http://mail2.wowway.net/JAVASCRIPT-BLOCKED> >> *Sent: *Tuesday, August 30, 2016 5:18:20 AM >> *Subject: *Re: Hey New Guys! >> >> Hi Tim >> How does my new paint job look??? >> >> On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 5:44:58 AM UTC+1, Tim wrote: >>> >>> Don't be shy, post a question! >>> >>> -Tim >>> >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> <http://mail2.wowway.net/JAVASCRIPT-BLOCKED>. >> To post to this group, send email to legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com >> <http://mail2.wowway.net/JAVASCRIPT-BLOCKED>. >> Visit this group at >> https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: What's New?
Curtis. It appears that you just can,t resist a challenge. Just like me !! I have had about 20 or so lathes in my lifetime mostly metal work lathes. The one I miss most is an old VDF German made lathe, it could cut all sorts of threads ,multistart,down to 2TPI. At the present time my dear old Woodchuck is stripped right down and is having a coat of (two Pack paint ) in Ford Cardinal red, the head stock, tailstock and leg plates I am leaving in black. I hope you get yours up and running. Richard On Monday, August 22, 2016 at 2:07:51 AM UTC+1, Curtis wrote: > > Hello Everyone > > I know its vacation season for most of the people out there, (AND I too am > very busy, this time of year. ) but is anyone doing any projects, that they > would like to talk about? > > How about hopes and or ideas on how to make a better ...? (mouse trap? so > to speak.) > > I for one Just ran into a new possible pet project of my own last week. I > say Possible due to, its going to take a lot of work to get it running, ( > and like all of you out there, My free time is getting harder to find these > days.) > What I found an Old Legacy model 500-600, I'm not sure which model I > have, its missing the carriage assembly.This unit is made up with Uni-sturt > (not alum.) Which is fine with me. > Di spite the limited ability's this unit had, I think it would make a > Great platform for a new and improved wood working machine. > > I have Lots of ideas. but I thought I would throw it out there for you all > to think about. > Could this unit be made better,stronger, and faster? ( I hear the thyme > song for the six million dollar man. when I say that.) ;-) (OK for you > newbie's out there. that was a TV series back in the 70's.) > We can build it! Now what are your thoughts on this topic??? > > I would really like to hear your opinion's on this idea. > > C.A.G. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Price of LOM's
Mike How do I pay you for the half nut and when will you be getting it. ?? I have the Woodchuck all stripped down and am painting all the bars in red, including the legs,but leaving the headstock,tailstock and leg support plates in black. I have made a few other alterations as well. I will put some pics up when I have it all together again. You can contact me by email if you could let me know how to pay for the half-nut Thanks Richard On Thursday, August 11, 2016 at 4:23:48 AM UTC+1, LILtwisted wrote: > > I am going to be ordering some new half nuts as well as a couple lower > mounts, I will get the ones you will need for your legacy as well as an old > style like the one you have in your pictures. I'll take some pics soon > > Mike OK > > > > On 8/7/2016 2:27 AM, rchrd@gmail.com wrote: > > I, as you probably know, I have recently bought an old Woodchuck. I paid > £500 for it, but it did include a Transformer and a router ( worth about > £100 for the pair ) > The seller stated that he had paid over £2000 for it when new in 1994. > Although I am pleased with it, £400 when new would have been the right > price for it. !!! ? -- Engineering wise, it is very poor quality,just basic > materials. > What I do like about the box section tube that is used in it's > construction ,is that enables me to add my l*ittle* modifications to it . > > I notice that Mike has a similar Model and he has also, has done a few > Mods to the Woodchuck. > Well,, what made me Post this, is that , I am slowly reading all the > posts on this Forum, and one that I found interesting was dated 4/26/07 > interesting I must say. > > Curtis very kindly threaded two pieces of Delrin 4 t.p.i. and sent them to > me here in the U.K. Unfortunately the overall size was too small. > Today I am going to make a clamping device so that Curtis's time was not > wasted. > I did write to someone called Cindy at Legacy, Re: half nut but no reply, > Good business technique for future custom ,!!! > Meantime I will keep on modifying this old Woodchuck of mine to make it > more user friendly . > *I find that if it had been perfect I would have been more disappointed, > Hence no CNC for me in any shape or form* > Kind Regards, and many, many ,thanks again Curtis > Richard > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > To post to this group, send email to legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > . > Visit this group at > https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Price of LOM's
Mike That would be great if you could get me the half nut. On my carriage the allen screw that fastens the nut to it ,goes in the lower threaded hole, I think the threaded hole just above it is not used on mine. Did they make to types of half-nut ?? Richard On Thursday, August 11, 2016 at 4:23:48 AM UTC+1, LILtwisted wrote: > > I am going to be ordering some new half nuts as well as a couple lower > mounts, I will get the ones you will need for your legacy as well as an old > style like the one you have in your pictures. I'll take some pics soon > > Mike OK > > > > On 8/7/2016 2:27 AM, rchrd@gmail.com wrote: > > I, as you probably know, I have recently bought an old Woodchuck. I paid > £500 for it, but it did include a Transformer and a router ( worth about > £100 for the pair ) > The seller stated that he had paid over £2000 for it when new in 1994. > Although I am pleased with it, £400 when new would have been the right > price for it. !!! ? -- Engineering wise, it is very poor quality,just basic > materials. > What I do like about the box section tube that is used in it's > construction ,is that enables me to add my l*ittle* modifications to it . > > I notice that Mike has a similar Model and he has also, has done a few > Mods to the Woodchuck. > Well,, what made me Post this, is that , I am slowly reading all the > posts on this Forum, and one that I found interesting was dated 4/26/07 > interesting I must say. > > Curtis very kindly threaded two pieces of Delrin 4 t.p.i. and sent them to > me here in the U.K. Unfortunately the overall size was too small. > Today I am going to make a clamping device so that Curtis's time was not > wasted. > I did write to someone called Cindy at Legacy, Re: half nut but no reply, > Good business technique for future custom ,!!! > Meantime I will keep on modifying this old Woodchuck of mine to make it > more user friendly . > *I find that if it had been perfect I would have been more disappointed, > Hence no CNC for me in any shape or form* > Kind Regards, and many, many ,thanks again Curtis > Richard > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > To post to this group, send email to legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > . > Visit this group at > https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Price of LOM's
I, as you probably know, I have recently bought an old Woodchuck. I paid £500 for it, but it did include a Transformer and a router ( worth about £100 for the pair ) The seller stated that he had paid over £2000 for it when new in 1994. Although I am pleased with it, £400 when new would have been the right price for it. !!! ? -- Engineering wise, it is very poor quality,just basic materials. What I do like about the box section tube that is used in it's construction ,is that enables me to add my l*ittle* modifications to it . I notice that Mike has a similar Model and he has also, has done a few Mods to the Woodchuck. Well,, what made me Post this, is that , I am slowly reading all the posts on this Forum, and one that I found interesting was dated 4/26/07 interesting I must say. Curtis very kindly threaded two pieces of Delrin 4 t.p.i. and sent them to me here in the U.K. Unfortunately the overall size was too small. Today I am going to make a clamping device so that Curtis's time was not wasted. I did write to someone called Cindy at Legacy, Re: half nut but no reply, Good business technique for future custom ,!!! Meantime I will keep on modifying this old Woodchuck of mine to make it more user friendly . *I find that if it had been perfect I would have been more disappointed, Hence no CNC for me in any shape or form* Kind Regards, and many, many ,thanks again Curtis Richard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Pulley for the Woodchuck
Tim , That is what I do with the side cutting 1/2" straight cutter leaving about 3/8" so no need to do any thing different from what I do now. Today I made a sleeve out of a piece of plastic pipe slightly too small to go over the parallel part of the Skittle and then cut a slot lengthwise . Slipped it over the skittle and gripped it in a chuck on my wood lathe, had to tap it a few times to get it running true, Tomorrow I may make a cone out of some boxwood to help align it with a live center in the tailstock. When it runs true then I will move the tailstock out of the way. and sand the end using a pad. Woodworking chucks leave a lot to be desired, !? I just don't like doing wood work on my metal work lathe Cheers Richard On Monday, August 1, 2016 at 6:17:34 PM UTC+1, Tim wrote: > > You would be cutting from the top using your Y axis. You would leave > roughly 3/8" of material so the part stays between centers. Finally, you > remove the work from the machine and cut the 3/8" stub off and a quick sand > and it's done. > > -Tim > > > - Original Message - > *From:* rchrd@gmail.com > *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills > *Sent:* Monday, August 01, 2016 9:04 AM > *Subject:* Re: Pulley for the Woodchuck > > Tim > I just can't see how I can use a round over bit, when cutting from the > side, if I use the straight 1/2" bit and go to deep it will part the > spindle from the length of the blank, if cutting from above that would > work, however I can only cut from the side. Leaving enough to hold the > blank together > Are we both getting a bit muddled up. > Cheers > Richard > > On Monday, August 1, 2016 at 2:40:42 PM UTC+1, Tim wrote: >> >> The round part of the knob you should use a roundover bit. >> >> - Original Message - >> *From:* rchrd@gmail.com >> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills >> *Sent:* Monday, August 01, 2016 12:08 AM >> *Subject:* Re: Pulley for the Woodchuck >> >> >> I have yet to discover how to round of the knob so as to get them all the >>> same. >>> >>> Cheers >>> Richard >>> >>> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > To post to this group, send email to legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > . > Visit this group at > https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Pulley for the Woodchuck
Tim I just can't see how I can use a round over bit, when cutting from the side, if I use the straight 1/2" bit and go to deep it will part the spindle from the length of the blank, if cutting from above that would work, however I can only cut from the side. Leaving enough to hold the blank together Are we both getting a bit muddled up. Cheers Richard On Monday, August 1, 2016 at 2:40:42 PM UTC+1, Tim wrote: > > The round part of the knob you should use a roundover bit. > > - Original Message - > *From:* rchrd@gmail.com > *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills > *Sent:* Monday, August 01, 2016 12:08 AM > *Subject:* Re: Pulley for the Woodchuck > > > I have yet to discover how to round of the knob so as to get them all the >> same. >> >> Cheers >> Richard >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Pulley for the Woodchuck
Bill, I am using a straight 1/2 inch bit, cutting from the side. *All I do at the present time is to experiment. *Has anyone found that 300 rpm is too fast, and if so what happens, The longest length that I am turning is around 2 feet x 1 1/4 inch dia. I am taking it steady on the travel as I do not trust the limit switches too much. If travelling from tailstock to headstock is there a best way to turn the spindle,,* clockwise or anti clockwise* The router cutter is rotating clockwise as seen from above (Tritons largest router ) and not trying to walk into the wood Regards to all who are giving me guidance Richard On Sunday, July 31, 2016 at 3:44:22 PM UTC+1, aussiman wrote: > > Sounds good 300rpm is faster than i would use but if i remember Tim > suggested it would work ok. 200 is as fast as I would go > > But your saying you have been using 300 ok, great with a slow saddle feed > you must be getting a nice smooth finish > > Are you using a surface planning bit or perhaps a corbox bit? > > > > Bill > > > > *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com [mailto: > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of * > rchrd@gmail.com > *Sent:* Sunday, 31 July 2016 7:15 PM > *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills > *Subject:* Re: Pulley for the Woodchuck > > > > Bill > > Have checked the speeds, At 50 cycles, ( that is the U.K. supply,) the > spindles RPM is 227 and the revs that I have been using so far ,are 300 > r.p.m. approx. > > I do not use it for more than a few minutes, but keep all bearings well > oiled. > > My pulley is a bit too large in dia. Will turn it down to fit the 50 > cycles/ 300 rpm. > > My inverter does, and will go up to 75 cycles per .min. So could get the > spindle even faster,,, maybee get vibes!!!??? > > I am still working on these skittles out of some quick grown softwood, > awful stuff, can't wait to get back to oak and beech. > > I quite like this old Woodchuck, it's growing on me. Have to work on a > rotary table one day, my metal work one is too heavy to lump around. > > Cheers > > Richard > > On Sunday, July 31, 2016 at 7:02:29 AM UTC+1, rchrd@gmail.com wrote: > > Hi Bill > > I will put the Tacho on it today, and will let you know,, however the > inverter has a potentiometer on it ,so I can vary the revs. As long as it > does not over heat it can go to nearly zero. The spindle as you know does > not need a lot of power. ( also gives the good Wife's arm a rest ) > > > > The ply is secondhand and is the best I have ever seen ,or used, I think > it was ex, film studio or something similar, shiny black on one side and > mat black on the other, when I cut it ,I have never found a void, all well > glued. > > Richard U.K. > > On Saturday, July 30, 2016 at 8:44:58 PM UTC+1, aussiman wrote: > > Looks good do you have any idea how many rpm it spins the spindle? > > Bill > > > > *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com [mailto: > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of * > rchrd@gmail.com > *Sent:* Sunday, 31 July 2016 3:23 AM > *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills > *Subject:* Pulley for the Woodchuck > > > > Hi All > > Today I fitted a plywood pulley to my old Woodchuck. It drives the spindle > via a 3 phase motor using an inverter to control the speeds, turned the "V > " groove for the belt, on my other lathe, fastened it to the spindle using > one of the drive gears. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > To post to this group, send email to legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at > https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > To post to this group, send email to legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > . > Visit this group at > https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Pulley for the Woodchuck
Bill Have checked the speeds, At 50 cycles, ( that is the U.K. supply,) the spindles RPM is 227 and the revs that I have been using so far ,are 300 r.p.m. approx. I do not use it for more than a few minutes, but keep all bearings well oiled. My pulley is a bit too large in dia. Will turn it down to fit the 50 cycles/ 300 rpm. My inverter does, and will go up to 75 cycles per .min. So could get the spindle even faster,,, maybee get vibes!!!??? I am still working on these skittles out of some quick grown softwood, awful stuff, can't wait to get back to oak and beech. I quite like this old Woodchuck, it's growing on me. Have to work on a rotary table one day, my metal work one is too heavy to lump around. Cheers Richard On Sunday, July 31, 2016 at 7:02:29 AM UTC+1, rchrd@gmail.com wrote: > > Hi Bill > I will put the Tacho on it today, and will let you know,, however the > inverter has a potentiometer on it ,so I can vary the revs. As long as it > does not over heat it can go to nearly zero. The spindle as you know does > not need a lot of power. ( also gives the good Wife's arm a rest ) > > The ply is secondhand and is the best I have ever seen ,or used, I think > it was ex, film studio or something similar, shiny black on one side and > mat black on the other, when I cut it ,I have never found a void, all well > glued. > Richard U.K. > > On Saturday, July 30, 2016 at 8:44:58 PM UTC+1, aussiman wrote: >> >> Looks good do you have any idea how many rpm it spins the spindle? >> >> Bill >> >> >> >> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com [mailto: >> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of * >> rchrd@gmail.com >> *Sent:* Sunday, 31 July 2016 3:23 AM >> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills >> *Subject:* Pulley for the Woodchuck >> >> >> >> Hi All >> >> Today I fitted a plywood pulley to my old Woodchuck. It drives the >> spindle via a 3 phase motor using an inverter to control the speeds, turned >> the "V " groove for the belt, on my other lathe, fastened it to the spindle >> using one of the drive gears. >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at >> https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Pulley for the Woodchuck
Hi Bill I will put the Tacho on it today, and will let you know,, however the inverter has a potentiometer on it ,so I can vary the revs. As long as it does not over heat it can go to nearly zero. The spindle as you know does not need a lot of power. ( also gives the good Wife's arm a rest ) The ply is secondhand and is the best I have ever seen ,or used, I think it was ex, film studio or something similar, shiny black on one side and mat black on the other, when I cut it ,I have never found a void, all well glued. Richard U.K. On Saturday, July 30, 2016 at 8:44:58 PM UTC+1, aussiman wrote: > > Looks good do you have any idea how many rpm it spins the spindle? > > Bill > > > > *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com [mailto: > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of * > rchrd@gmail.com > *Sent:* Sunday, 31 July 2016 3:23 AM > *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills > *Subject:* Pulley for the Woodchuck > > > > Hi All > > Today I fitted a plywood pulley to my old Woodchuck. It drives the spindle > via a 3 phase motor using an inverter to control the speeds, turned the "V > " groove for the belt, on my other lathe, fastened it to the spindle using > one of the drive gears. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > To post to this group, send email to legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > . > Visit this group at > https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Pulley for the Woodchuck
The last two pics are about the Half- nut did not mean to put them in the post about the pulley On Saturday, July 30, 2016 at 6:22:40 PM UTC+1, rchrd@gmail.com wrote: > > Hi All > Today I fitted a plywood pulley to my old Woodchuck. It drives the spindle > via a 3 phase motor using an inverter to control the speeds, turned the "V > " groove for the belt, on my other lathe, fastened it to the spindle using > one of the drive gears. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: side cutting question.
Hi Curtis and Bill I can see how it could work, that is,,, if is not to deep-a cut, the twin bearings would be trying to keep the spindle in a central position. A lot depends on the type of wood, and of course a very accurate set up,--- not easy!! I take it, that it is cut in one pass, with maybe a very light final cut. At the moment I am making some small skittles cutting from the side and am for trying another method later. That is by lowering the router in increments from the top downwards, as well as following the template , by that I mean using the tip of the cutter rather than the side On Sunday, July 24, 2016 at 3:58:54 AM UTC+1, Curtis wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > Its vacation season, I know topics have been a little slow as of late. > > Today I was going through some old Videos, (VHS. early 1990's vintage.) > On one video Legacy/Phantom (Phantom was the old name while they were > making the Wood Chuck O,M,L. before Legacy.) talked about roping form the > side of an all ready tapered spindle. > What they did was to use a Beading side cuter. like what I have posted > here. > what they did was to free float the carriage's Y axis, and while using a > 4" pitch , they cut a rope form the side. > > I have never done this method of cutting. Has anyone out there tried this > method of cutting? I would think that the undercut would be greater on one > side due to the spinning of the wood off the center. (but that is just a > guess.) > I'm looking for any info. and or ideas. > Any and all comments are, as Always welcome. > > Have a good evening. everyone. > C.A.G. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: legacy video
Yes Bill The work was done on the Trend Router lathe, the only thing I have done is some fluting of a bit of oak, and also some skittles out of some quick grown softwood , probably spruce, absolute rubbish, but o.k. to practice on , hate the stuff!! I was a tree faller forestry contractor, small saw miller for two years , could not stand being inside , so went back out to the open air. I kept a lot of oak planks from the trees that I had felled and used it in a house I built ---staircase etc etc One of my big bandsaws, a FORESTOR could handle trees up to 6 feet diameter, although the biggest I did was a 5 foot one 24 foot long Richard On Saturday, July 9, 2016 at 8:43:37 AM UTC+1, aussiman wrote: > > I got 2 pics here one of your mill and one of your work > > Bill > > > > *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com [mailto: > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of * > rchrd@gmail.com > *Sent:* Saturday, 9 July 2016 4:53 PM > *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills > *Subject:* Re: legacy video > > > > Bill > > I tried to send a pic or two but do not know what happened to them,, so > will try again > > On Saturday, July 9, 2016 at 7:46:09 AM UTC+1, rchrd@gmail.com wrote: > > Bill > > I have no problem doing spirals or other wise. > > I had a small router lathe before. it had a fixed pitch but had 24 > position index set up..Here is a few thing I made on it. > > Richard > > On Saturday, July 9, 2016 at 2:50:21 AM UTC+1, aussiman wrote: > > This one can be done on the woodchuck using your indexing plate > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QN8jyOJw-SY > > Bill > > > > *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com [mailto: > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *Bill > Bulkeley > *Sent:* Saturday, 9 July 2016 11:43 AM > *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* legacy video > > > > Here you go Richard watch these it shows turning and multi start > spiralling and other great stuff to like hollow spiral > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8NkIHahqCY > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLtOyhljAYE > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEub-wIIuqo > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yc9EwugEqMU > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5lae0vFmyQ > > > > > > Bill > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2016.0.7640 / Virus Database: 4613/12583 - Release Date: 07/08/16 > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > To post to this group, send email to legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at > https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > To post to this group, send email to legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > . > Visit this group at > https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Pepper Mill
Thanks Bill
Now I understand, never thought of moving the half-nut.
On my Woodchuck I have quite a few alterations to do, change the knobs on
the ends of the bed that tilt it, I intend to put some hand wheels with
handles>it will make it easier to know just how many turns to make to tilt
hen back to level, difficult with a knob
Thanks for the UTUBE stuff I will study and [ inwardly digest ] This was a
saying my Dad used to quote. "]Read Mark Learn and inwardly digest"
Cheers
Richard
On Saturday, July 9, 2016 at 12:58:03 AM UTC+1, aussiman wrote:
>
> After each cut he would have disconnected the half nut and moved the
> saddle along ½ inch then re-engaged the half nut thus indexing to the next
> spiral and repeating the process till all 20 starts are done. the number of
> starts usually are multiples of the cutter dia divided into the pitch..
>
> Example,the ½inch dia cutter divides into the 10inch pitch 20 times so you
> get a 20 start spiral.
>
> Mike why don’t you do another video explaining multiple start spirals and
> the 2 ways you can index them the saddle way like i just explained and the
> indexing the spindle way personally for a beginner i thing the saddle
> method is the easier to grasp
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *
> rchrd@gmail.com
> *Sent:* Saturday, 9 July 2016 3:53 AM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills
> *Subject:* Re: Pepper Mill
>
>
>
> Bill this is what I don't understand {his was turned with 2X gear set,
> 10" pitch, 20 starts, and using the small 1/2" rope bit for pens. Router at
> 16K speed. }
>
> On Friday, July 8, 2016 at 6:29:04 PM UTC+1, aussiman wrote:
>
> Yes he has his gears set up to cut a 4inch pitch.
>
> I’m sorry my link doesn’t work for you I didn’t think what windows your
> running matters I thought it was what browser your running
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *
> rchrd@gmail.com
> *Sent:* Saturday, 9 July 2016 3:17 AM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills
> *Subject:* Re: Pepper Mill
>
>
>
> Bill I am on windows XP so can't get the dropbox I would need Vista or
> later
>
> Mikes video Saves time and faffing about But he still has to set the gears
> up to do a 4" pitch, am I right??
>
> Cheers
>
> Richard
>
> On Friday, July 8, 2016 at 5:18:26 PM UTC+1, aussiman wrote:
>
> Richard you really need to watch the videos here
> https://www.dropbox.com/home/Public
>
> To familiar yourself with the basics of milling and multiple start
> spiralling i gave you this link before
>
> It will help you understand your woodchucks abilities the legacy mills are
> very similar
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *CURTIS
> GEORGE
> *Sent:* Saturday, 9 July 2016 12:49 AM
> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Pepper Mill
>
>
>
> Good morning Richard
>
>
>
> You are getting confused on indexing (which is for fluting or reeding) and
> pitch with is for roping.
>
> I can see a number of different way this pepper mill could have been cut,
> First you need to know the pitch he used and the router bit.
>
> By eye I would say its a long pitch, (lets say 12" or 15". and the bit
> looks to be a 1/2" roping bit.) If you look at your charts and see the X2
> gear set will make ether, (for the Legacy that would be the F or G gears.)
> (I do not have the W/C gear set with me at this time.) (those drive gears
> are the smallest ones you have,)
>
> Now knowing this you can do the roping in a few different ways, One being
> the old method, where you cut, and the back up the carriage up to your
> start, and then adjustment/indexing of the rope, and re-cut, over and over
> until you have cut all your ropes cut. The other method is Mike's "Carriage
> travel indexing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjcFpO51upw . (the
> video explains it much better than I could.)
>
> No matter what method you use to make these cuts, you will find a number
> of different ways to get the job done, In this case there is no WRONG way
> to do it. Its all up to you and what you want the cut to look like. On
> some turnings that I have made, I needed two small ropes inside of a normal
> one, Again it all depends on what you are looking to make.
>
>
>
> As a OLD Joke, I Never tell anyone what I'm making until I'm done. That
Re: Pepper Mill
Bill this is what I don't understand {his was turned with 2X gear set,
10" pitch, 20 starts, and using the small 1/2" rope bit for pens. Router at
16K speed. }
On Friday, July 8, 2016 at 6:29:04 PM UTC+1, aussiman wrote:
>
> Yes he has his gears set up to cut a 4inch pitch.
>
> I’m sorry my link doesn’t work for you I didn’t think what windows your
> running matters I thought it was what browser your running
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *
> rchrd@gmail.com
> *Sent:* Saturday, 9 July 2016 3:17 AM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills
> *Subject:* Re: Pepper Mill
>
>
>
> Bill I am on windows XP so can't get the dropbox I would need Vista or
> later
>
> Mikes video Saves time and faffing about But he still has to set the gears
> up to do a 4" pitch, am I right??
>
> Cheers
>
> Richard
>
> On Friday, July 8, 2016 at 5:18:26 PM UTC+1, aussiman wrote:
>
> Richard you really need to watch the videos here
> https://www.dropbox.com/home/Public
>
> To familiar yourself with the basics of milling and multiple start
> spiralling i gave you this link before
>
> It will help you understand your woodchucks abilities the legacy mills are
> very similar
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *CURTIS GEORGE
> *Sent:* Saturday, 9 July 2016 12:49 AM
> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Pepper Mill
>
>
>
> Good morning Richard
>
>
>
> You are getting confused on indexing (which is for fluting or reeding) and
> pitch with is for roping.
>
> I can see a number of different way this pepper mill could have been cut,
> First you need to know the pitch he used and the router bit.
>
> By eye I would say its a long pitch, (lets say 12" or 15". and the bit
> looks to be a 1/2" roping bit.) If you look at your charts and see the X2
> gear set will make ether, (for the Legacy that would be the F or G gears.)
> (I do not have the W/C gear set with me at this time.) (those drive gears
> are the smallest ones you have,)
>
> Now knowing this you can do the roping in a few different ways, One being
> the old method, where you cut, and the back up the carriage up to your
> start, and then adjustment/indexing of the rope, and re-cut, over and over
> until you have cut all your ropes cut. The other method is Mike's "Carriage
> travel indexing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjcFpO51upw . (the
> video explains it much better than I could.)
>
> No matter what method you use to make these cuts, you will find a number
> of different ways to get the job done, In this case there is no WRONG way
> to do it. Its all up to you and what you want the cut to look like. On
> some turnings that I have made, I needed two small ropes inside of a normal
> one, Again it all depends on what you are looking to make.
>
>
>
> As a OLD Joke, I Never tell anyone what I'm making until I'm done. That
> way the pencil box that I made, (that I originally have planed to become a
> 4 poster bed, dose not look so bad. ;-)
>
>
>
> Have a good day.
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
> --
>
> *From: *"rchrd ellis1"
> *To: *"Legacy Ornamental Mills"
> *Sent: *Friday, July 8, 2016 8:56:14 AM
> *Subject: *Pepper Mill
>
>
>
> Hi Tim
>
> I like the look of your pepper mill, but don't understand how you got 20
> starts. My index gears have only 12 holes.
>
>
>
> However I have two more alloy plates with 36 and 40 holes, but of course
> no gear teeth
>
> I can see no way of using them except for flutes and reeds.
>
> The other thing while am am writing . How does one start the router,
> plunge it and turn the handle when rounding round square stock Not
> enough hands !!
>
> Cheers
>
> Richard
>
>
>
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Re: Pepper Mill
Bill I am on windows XP so can't get the dropbox I would need Vista or later Mikes video Saves time and faffing about But he still has to set the gears up to do a 4" pitch, am I right?? Cheers Richard On Friday, July 8, 2016 at 5:18:26 PM UTC+1, aussiman wrote: > > Richard you really need to watch the videos here > https://www.dropbox.com/home/Public > > To familiar yourself with the basics of milling and multiple start > spiralling i gave you this link before > > It will help you understand your woodchucks abilities the legacy mills are > very similar > > Bill > > > > *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com [mailto: > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *CURTIS > GEORGE > *Sent:* Saturday, 9 July 2016 12:49 AM > *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: Pepper Mill > > > > Good morning Richard > > > > You are getting confused on indexing (which is for fluting or reeding) and > pitch with is for roping. > > I can see a number of different way this pepper mill could have been cut, > First you need to know the pitch he used and the router bit. > > By eye I would say its a long pitch, (lets say 12" or 15". and the bit > looks to be a 1/2" roping bit.) If you look at your charts and see the X2 > gear set will make ether, (for the Legacy that would be the F or G gears.) > (I do not have the W/C gear set with me at this time.) (those drive gears > are the smallest ones you have,) > > Now knowing this you can do the roping in a few different ways, One being > the old method, where you cut, and the back up the carriage up to your > start, and then adjustment/indexing of the rope, and re-cut, over and over > until you have cut all your ropes cut. The other method is Mike's "Carriage > travel indexing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjcFpO51upw . (the > video explains it much better than I could.) > > No matter what method you use to make these cuts, you will find a number > of different ways to get the job done, In this case there is no WRONG way > to do it. Its all up to you and what you want the cut to look like. On > some turnings that I have made, I needed two small ropes inside of a normal > one, Again it all depends on what you are looking to make. > > > > As a OLD Joke, I Never tell anyone what I'm making until I'm done. That > way the pencil box that I made, (that I originally have planed to become a > 4 poster bed, dose not look so bad. ;-) > > > > Have a good day. > > C.A.G. > > > -- > > *From: *"rchrd ellis1" > > *To: *"Legacy Ornamental Mills" > > *Sent: *Friday, July 8, 2016 8:56:14 AM > *Subject: *Pepper Mill > > > > Hi Tim > > I like the look of your pepper mill, but don't understand how you got 20 > starts. My index gears have only 12 holes. > > > > However I have two more alloy plates with 36 and 40 holes, but of course > no gear teeth > > I can see no way of using them except for flutes and reeds. > > The other thing while am am writing . How does one start the router, > plunge it and turn the handle when rounding round square stock Not > enough hands !! > > Cheers > > Richard > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > To post to this group, send email to legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > . > Visit this group at > https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2016.0.7640 / Virus Database: 4613/12580 - Release Date: 07/08/16 > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > To post to this group, send email to legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > . > Visit this group at > https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Pepper Mill
Hi Tim I like the look of your pepper mill, but don't understand how you got 20 starts. My index gears have only 12 holes. However I have two more alloy plates with 36 and 40 holes, but of course no gear teeth I can see no way of using them except for flutes and reeds. The other thing while am am writing . How does one start the router, plunge it and turn the handle when rounding round square stock Not enough hands !! Cheers Richard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
VHS Tapes Woodchuck instructions for turning etc.
Hi Curtis The Tapes have just this moment ( 13.30 hours the 7th. ) been sent off to you. Hope you get them O.K. Cheers Richard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Wood Chuck Tour by Mike Pung
Thanks for that Bill, The half-nut is about 3/4 worn out at the moment, the Leadsrew was very rusty when I bought the Woodchuck, so am using it while I test all the bits and pieces out. I presume that you mean a threaded rod in *acme form* and not plain 4 TPI rod and then allowing the acme leadscrew to form the thread to *acme shape, *I think it might take a long while to form in Delrin !!!??? Cheers Richard On Saturday, July 2, 2016 at 10:36:29 AM UTC+1, aussiman wrote: > > It might be possible to make a 5/8x4tpi acme tape to make a delrin half > nut by buying a small piece if threaded bar the same as the leadscrew and > grinding grooves in it like a tap has, then turn a taper on it the same as > a tap. > > It wouldn’t work on metal but it would probably cut delrin at least for a > couple of times. something to think about as you will probably never be > able to buy a half nut. > > > > Bill > > > > > > *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com [mailto: > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of * > rchrd@gmail.com > *Sent:* Saturday, 2 July 2016 6:08 PM > *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills > *Cc:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: Wood Chuck Tour by Mike Pung > > > > Mike > > I can see it now, thanks for your time and effort, as you know I have a > Woodchuck and am just getting to grips with it > > It was a bit rusty and several things wrong , like, wires adrift in the > switch boxes, and limit switches not lining up. > > The rusty Leadscrew took a long time on the wire wheel of the grinder, I > now have to get a new half-nut as it is well worn. My metal work lathe only > goes down to 8TPI Pitty as I could make a new one out of Delrin (is that > the right stuff to use ?? ) I don't know if I can do it a 4TPI tap in > Delrin > > I find your Videos very helpful and interesting, thanks a lot. > > Regards > > Richard ( In the U.K. with a muddled up government ) Should government > have a Capital G > > On Friday, July 1, 2016 at 5:18:48 PM UTC+1, LILtwisted wrote: > > Well guys and gals, I decided a few minutes ago to do a quick video about > my Wood Chuck. This will show what I have done and should answer a few > questions and create a lot more. Enjoy https://youtu.be/ooqZZkCp7tI > > Mike > > OK > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > To post to this group, send email to legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > . > Visit this group at > https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Wood Chuck Tour by Mike Pung
Mike I can see it now, thanks for your time and effort, as you know I have a Woodchuck and am just getting to grips with it It was a bit rusty and several things wrong , like, wires adrift in the switch boxes, and limit switches not lining up. The rusty Leadscrew took a long time on the wire wheel of the grinder, I now have to get a new half-nut as it is well worn. My metal work lathe only goes down to 8TPI Pitty as I could make a new one out of Delrin (is that the right stuff to use ?? ) I don't know if I can do it a 4TPI tap in Delrin I find your Videos very helpful and interesting, thanks a lot. Regards Richard ( In the U.K. with a muddled up government ) Should government have a Capital G On Friday, July 1, 2016 at 5:18:48 PM UTC+1, LILtwisted wrote: > > Well guys and gals, I decided a few minutes ago to do a quick video about > my Wood Chuck. This will show what I have done and should answer a few > questions and create a lot more. Enjoy https://youtu.be/ooqZZkCp7tI > > Mike > > OK > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Wood Chuck Tour by Mike Pung
Mike I get the same message here in the U.K. Cheers Richard On Friday, July 1, 2016 at 5:44:45 PM UTC+1, Tim wrote: > > When I click the link, youtube says, >Sorry about that, This video is > private." > > - Original Message - > *From:* Okla Mike (Liltwisted) > *To:* legacy group > *Sent:* Friday, July 01, 2016 9:18 AM > *Subject:* Wood Chuck Tour by Mike Pung > > Well guys and gals, I decided a few minutes ago to do a quick video about > my Wood Chuck. This will show what I have done and should answer a few > questions and create a lot more. Enjoy https://youtu.be/ooqZZkCp7tI > > Mike > > OK > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > To post to this group, send email to legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > . > Visit this group at > https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Planing square to round
Curtis The problem has been solved thanks to your last message. The switch box did have another button on it I did press it before and it did not do anything, so I opened the box and there was a black wire that had come out of the terminal crimp, there was a green wire very loose also so re crimped it. The limit switches are ,in my opinion not the best ,but will change them later. PLANING following you advice I turned the spindle by hand, about 80 rpm ,according to the second hand of my watch, a slow speed on the leadscrew and got a pretty good finish. Just a bit of sanding to do. Any way thanks to yourself and Bill,, I have got a working Woodchuck, first job is to make the set of skittles following a pattern Richard On Thursday, June 30, 2016 at 11:06:29 PM UTC+1, Curtis wrote: > > Hey Richard you need to make an override switch, When I made mine, I > attached it to the limit switch its self. > Legacy use to make it part of the motor control box. Idea is when the > limit switch is hit the power is then killed. you can then reverse the > drive and then hit the over-ride switch to get the motor running again. > Having said all of that. although I do have one on my machine, I almost > never use it. What I do it turn off the motor drive, and then dis-engage > the carriage and return the carriage by hand, when I in gauge the > lead-screw again and start my cut again. > Watch Mikes video carriage travel indexing. > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjcFpO51upw > > more latter. > > C.A.G. > > -- > *From: *"rchrd ellis1" > > *To: *"Legacy Ornamental Mills" > > *Sent: *Thursday, June 30, 2016 11:24:34 AM > *Subject: *Re: Planing square to round > > Thanks for all your help > I have all the gears sorted ,and now the smallest pitch I can get with my > gears is 3/4" > Today I have checked everything is level to make sure the router was not > tipping from the horizontal plane. I turned a flat topped mushroom type > gadget on my metal work lathe, placed the stalk 1/2" into the router and > used a long straight edge on the top of the upside down mushroom and all > was level,, so no problem at all with the gears or levels. > > > Next job was to fit the limit switches *Problem problems* when the > carriage tripped the switch at either end of the bed rails. they worked > O.K. The PROBLEM IS THAT IT SWITCHED THE POWER OFF so had to move the > carriage away from the switch by hand to enable the use of the power drive > again.. > Is this normal on a Woodchuck??? maybe Mike can help me > Regards > Richard > > On Wednesday, June 29, 2016 at 12:26:16 PM UTC+1, rchrd@gmail.com > wrote: >> >> Hi Bill >> I have been looking at old posts ,but can't find the one when you said >> what gears and speeds of router and also the leadscrew motorwas set at , ( >> I think it was around 9,) to get a good finish when turning/planing >> square stock. >> I have just set up my gears as follows :- 45 drive gear index gear >> 120 and the pivot arm gear 180 and the 120 on the side nearest the >> headstock. The outcome was a travel time of 30 inches per minute. Seems far >> too fast for a planing cut,, am I right.?? >> It is set up for 1" pitch and I am using a 1" 1/4" rebate cutter taking >> very light cuts >> Regards >> Richard >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > To post to this group, send email to legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > . > Visit this group at > https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Planing square to round
Thanks for all your help I have all the gears sorted ,and now the smallest pitch I can get with my gears is 3/4" Today I have checked everything is level to make sure the router was not tipping from the horizontal plane. I turned a flat topped mushroom type gadget on my metal work lathe, placed the stalk 1/2" into the router and used a long straight edge on the top of the upside down mushroom and all was level,, so no problem at all with the gears or levels. Next job was to fit the limit switches *Problem problems* when the carriage tripped the switch at either end of the bed rails. they worked O.K. The PROBLEM IS THAT IT SWITCHED THE POWER OFF so had to move the carriage away from the switch by hand to enable the use of the power drive again.. Is this normal on a Woodchuck??? maybe Mike can help me Regards Richard On Wednesday, June 29, 2016 at 12:26:16 PM UTC+1, rchrd@gmail.com wrote: > > Hi Bill > I have been looking at old posts ,but can't find the one when you said > what gears and speeds of router and also the leadscrew motorwas set at , ( > I think it was around 9,) to get a good finish when turning/planing > square stock. > I have just set up my gears as follows :- 45 drive gear index gear 120 > and the pivot arm gear 180 and the 120 on the side nearest the headstock. > The outcome was a travel time of 30 inches per minute. Seems far too fast > for a planing cut,, am I right.?? > It is set up for 1" pitch and I am using a 1" 1/4" rebate cutter taking > very light cuts > Regards > Richard > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Planing square to round
I made a mistake when I said 45 on the drive shaft it is a 60 gear On Wednesday, June 29, 2016 at 12:26:16 PM UTC+1, rchrd@gmail.com wrote: > > Hi Bill > I have been looking at old posts ,but can't find the one when you said > what gears and speeds of router and also the leadscrew motorwas set at , ( > I think it was around 9,) to get a good finish when turning/planing > square stock. > I have just set up my gears as follows :- 45 drive gear index gear 120 > and the pivot arm gear 180 and the 120 on the side nearest the headstock. > The outcome was a travel time of 30 inches per minute. Seems far too fast > for a planing cut,, am I right.?? > It is set up for 1" pitch and I am using a 1" 1/4" rebate cutter taking > very light cuts > Regards > Richard > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Planing square to round
Thank yo both Curtis and Bill My gear set up in my last post is what I am using I have been out to my shed and measured the travel of the carriage 3 revs of the leadscrew gives me one rev of the carriage It then gives me a spiral mark on the wood of exactly 3/4" The wood I am practicing on is very fast grown softwood, Not the best to get a good finish. I am cutting from above from headstock to tailstock light cuts only ustng a rebate cutter, Now -- If I stop the motor drive, and disconnect the half-nut, move the carriage back and forwards along the wood by hand I get a clean cut , and if I repeat this operation several times turning the spindle a little each time , Get a very very smooth finish all the way round but with slight ridges along the length of the wood. My Dad who was born in 1890 Had a saying ( read ,mark, learn and inwardly digest ) still miss him Regards Richard I On Wednesday, June 29, 2016 at 2:34:11 PM UTC+1, Curtis wrote: > > Good morning everyone. > Richard. > Bill, Tim, and my self have been playing around with a number of different > ideas on how to get the best finish/planing cut from the Legacy for a long > time. (we are talking about a number of years of trial and error, efforts > along this idea line.) > Bill is 100% correct, what you need is the slowest pitch, with the fastest > spindle rotation possible with the gears. Now the bigger question is how > are you going to do that? > > Legacy wrote in the Legacy builders mag. > > I had a number of gears laser cut for me, to try to achieve this goal. > But I never quite got it, using the gears alone. > We have also had a number of people who made X4 gear set ups, in the > attempt to get the same goal. (Tim might remember more on the line of > thought more than I do, at this min.?) > > Bill had a chain and sprocket idea that worked out pretty nice,for him. > By the use of the chain and sprocket he was able to get a 1;1 ratio. which > means 1/4" per rotation. > > I've come up with a different approach. "the spindle drive motor." I use > two motor, one to spin the spindle, and the other to move the Legacy > carriage. By using both motors together, I can get any pitch that I want, I > can spin the spindle at 80 rpm and have the carriage move slowly to get the > best finish you can get from any router bit. > > Richard. I wish you luck on your endeavor, Perhaps you can come up with > your own ideas, how to achieve this goal? > That is the main reason for this group. with over 300 people out there, > You have an idea. someone looks at it, and then changes it slightly to fit > there needs, And soon an entirely new concept of how to get the job done > ,is born. > One of my favorite quotes, "Only a fool learns through his own mistakes, > I would rather learn form others." (Otto von Bismark.) > I say, Live and Learn. > Good luck. and please let us know how it turns out for you. ;-) > > C.A.G. > > -- > *From: *"Bill Bulkeley" > > *To: *legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > *Sent: *Wednesday, June 29, 2016 8:09:51 AM > *Subject: *RE: Planing square to round > > It depends on work dia but around 2 inches i like a ½ inch pitch (pitch > is how far the saddle moves with one rotation of the leadscrew) > > and the spindle running around 90rpm > > Using magnates 2704 bottom cleaning bit > > https://www.magnate.net/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=2704 > > > > i have some video here https://www.dropbox.com/home/Public > > about basic turning might help you as well as a couple of manuals i hope > the link works.let me know. > > > > but basically a fine pitch and a reasonably fast spindle speed will give a > nice finish with the bottoming bit.. > > > > Bill > > > > *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com [mailto: > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of * > rchrd@gmail.com > *Sent:* Wednesday, 29 June 2016 9:26 PM > *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills > *Subject:* Planing square to round > > > > Hi Bill > > I have been looking at old posts ,but can't find the one when you said > what gears and speeds of router and also the leadscrew motorwas set at , ( > I think it was around 9,) to get a good finish when turning/planing > square stock. > > I have just set up my gears as follows :- 45 drive gear index gear 120 > and the pivot arm gear 180 and the 120 on the side nearest the headstock. > The outcome was a travel time of 30 inches per minute. Seems far too fast > for a planing cut,, am I right.?? > > It is set up for 1" pitch and I am using a 1" 1/4" rebate cutter taking > very light cuts > > Regards > > Richard > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > To post to this group, send email to legacy-orna...@googlegrou
Planing square to round
Hi Bill I have been looking at old posts ,but can't find the one when you said what gears and speeds of router and also the leadscrew motorwas set at , ( I think it was around 9,) to get a good finish when turning/planing square stock. I have just set up my gears as follows :- 45 drive gear index gear 120 and the pivot arm gear 180 and the 120 on the side nearest the headstock. The outcome was a travel time of 30 inches per minute. Seems far too fast for a planing cut,, am I right.?? It is set up for 1" pitch and I am using a 1" 1/4" rebate cutter taking very light cuts Regards Richard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Project idea, trail and Error.
Hi Curtis How did you glue all the small pieces together?? in batches or by all the pieces on the rod and then clamped by a nut at each end, I wonder if it was the latter did the clamp exert the same pressure on the center pieces. I notice chip board is harder on the outside than it is in the center, and their press must be huge. I think alloy tube would be O.K. for the spine, it does bend but does not stay bent as much as mild steel. The slices cut at an angle !!! Would they try to slide about when glued and clamped ?? I do like to see experiments Regards Richard On Monday, June 27, 2016 at 2:34:52 PM UTC+1, Curtis wrote: > > Thank you Mac > I will try your suggestions, Perhaps you are right, that a bigger surface > glue joint could take up the play/slop in this concept ? You know the > funny thing here is that My Wife suggested the same things, but for > different reasons, (He suggestions were for appearance/comedic appeal. not > structure.) > > Thank you. > C.A.G. > -- > *From: *"MWF" > > *To: *legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > *Sent: *Monday, June 27, 2016 3:15:06 AM > *Subject: *Re: Project idea, trail and Error. > > Curtis, > > Perhaps you could try cutting your pieces such that their glue surfaces > are at a "diagonal", like this: (Sort of like you sometimes see some > country-style small slabs of wood cut from a tree branch and sanded down to > serve as a small cheese cutting board of a message painted on them - making > them a sort of sign - like sold at "Cracker Barrel" restaurants.) > > / ### / ### / ### / ### / Only with more of a skew for the cuts. This > will GREATLY increase the surface area of the "glue joints" - which should > help a lot in reducing the flexing. Cut your pieces at a 45 or 60 degree > angle to the end grain - then stack and glue them all together. > > Another way to try is to get some *high quality* (many thin laminations) > thin plywood. Cut it into strips a bit wider than your glue-up - and as > long as the cane/stack of pieces. After gluing up all the stack, rip it > down the center - yielding two "halves" the length of the cane. Now take > those two halves and glue them to the long strip of plywood and let > dry/cure well. This will create a "ply spine" down the length of the cane > - most likely reducing the "whipping" as you turn the shaft. If you still > have more flex than you like, repeat the rip down the middle of the cane - > only this time rip it so the nest ply strip is glued at 90 degrees off of > the first strip. You should now have 4 "quadrants if you look down the > shaft/cane from either end. You will now have "almost" two backbones down > the cane's length. Now finish turning the shaft. You should have a lot > less flex now. > > Let us know how it "turns" out. (Pun intended!) > > Mac > -- > -- > > -Original Message- > From: CURTIS GEORGE > Sent: Jun 25, 2016 3:47 PM > To: Legacy-Ornamental-Mills > Subject: Project idea, trail and Error. > > Hello Everyone. > Here is a project that I just wanted to try out, I glued it up over the > week, and let it fully dry, today I started the turning. > > What you are looking at is, end grain used on a walking stick, with an All > thread rod as the center/spine. of this rod. THe idea is/was to use end > grain wood for walking sticks, the rod would add strength and make it easy > to add on the handle and foot, once done. > > I had a lot of scraps in the old storage bin, Teak,Mahogany,and some kind > of neat looking pallet wood for central america. all cut into squares and > drilled out to fit onto a 3/8" steel all thread rod. > > The problem quickly was I,D,d . the center flexed a lot when being turned > on the Legacy, even at the slow speed of the Legacy, the wood flexed. I > tried to use my center support brace to keep the flexing, but sadly after > trying every trick that I could think of , the flex won out. This is much > thinner than I had planed, The end grain looks really nice, but I need to > find a better material for the spine. > Dose any one have any ideas??? > > Any and All ideas are (as always.) welcome. > > Have a Great weekend. > C.A.G. > > [image/jpeg:IMG_6923.JPG] > > [image/jpeg:IMG_6924.JPG] > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > To post to this group, send email to legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > . > Visit this group at > https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from
Re: new legacy 1200 Owner soon to be user
Bill Today I planed a bit if wood from square to round ,it came out tapered although the rails and bed were parallel. The reason was that the tailstock when clamped leaned back from the wood and therefore tilted the live center (a modification ) upwards i:e lifted the wood higher at that tailstock end. All good fun, I do like making logs for the fire. Router carriage is steel galvanized and the zinc is starting to wear of in patches, bad engineering me thinks. Still pleased I bought it, not many about in the U.K. Many regards for your help Richard On Monday, June 27, 2016 at 12:20:24 PM UTC+1, aussiman wrote: > > Yes from the side > > Bill > > > > *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com [mailto: > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of * > rchrd@gmail.com > *Sent:* Monday, 27 June 2016 4:32 PM > *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills > *Subject:* Re: new legacy 1200 Owner soon to be user > > > > Hi Bill > > It looks like you have rigged up your router working from the side , Am i > right??? > > I have been looking at the possibility of the router above// central as > normal but with two bars of the *original router guide/fence* following a > pattern that is vertical, The same way that my Trend routerlathe worked, > that way the depth of cut would be more controllable using the router > depth settings*. *It is just a thought. > > Richard > > On Sunday, June 26, 2016 at 4:30:19 PM UTC+1, aussiman wrote: > > Here is an idea i was messing with for template milling years ago before I > lost my mill in the fire. > > Would be good for making your skittles I only got to do a couple of jobs > on it before I lost it all. > > It might be an idea you might like to develop .. > > Bill > > > > *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com [mailto: > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of * > rchrd@gmail.com > *Sent:* Monday, 27 June 2016 12:50 AM > *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills > *Subject:* Re: new legacy 1200 Owner soon to be user > > > > > > On Saturday, June 25, 2016 at 3:20:43 PM UTC+1, rchrd@gmail.com wrote: > > Curtis I will let you know about the sort of skittles I am trying to make. > > Off out now,, Fish and chips later on yum yum!! > > > > I am back now Fish and chips were good. > > This is the skittle that I was hoping to copy when my disaster happened > It is 5" high by 1" 1/2 I have to make 9 of them for the kids. They will be > painted so cheap wood will do. > > I was trying to get two out of the disaster piece. But the pattern when I > do it properly should give me three out of one piece of wood > > On Monday, June 20, 2016 at 4:54:46 AM UTC+1, BRUCE TAYLOR wrote: > > I recently picked up a legacy 1200 mill and I am looking forward to > getting it put together and using it to do some projects, I want to make > some posts and other ornate items, I bought a showboat cmc 5x12 about 6 > years ago and use regularly in my cabinet and countertop business, wanted > to buy a mill then but never got around to it, so when I had the > opportunity to pick up one I jumped at the chance. I am interested in > adding the drive motor to it, I see some people have added other > aftermarket options, I would like to know what suggestions as to the pros > and cons of adding the drive s are, I added a 36" cmc indexer to my cmc bur > have not used it much. Thanks in advance for the help. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at > https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > To post to this group, send email to legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > . > Visit this group at > https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: new legacy 1200 Owner soon to be user
Hi Bill It looks like you have rigged up your router working from the side , Am i right??? I have been looking at the possibility of the router above// central as normal but with two bars of the *original router guide/fence* following a pattern that is vertical, The same way that my Trend routerlathe worked, that way the depth of cut would be more controllable using the router depth settings. It is just a thought. Richard On Sunday, June 26, 2016 at 4:30:19 PM UTC+1, aussiman wrote: > > Here is an idea i was messing with for template milling years ago before I > lost my mill in the fire. > > Would be good for making your skittles I only got to do a couple of jobs > on it before I lost it all. > > It might be an idea you might like to develop .. > > Bill > > > > *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com [mailto: > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of * > rchrd@gmail.com > *Sent:* Monday, 27 June 2016 12:50 AM > *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills > *Subject:* Re: new legacy 1200 Owner soon to be user > > > > > > On Saturday, June 25, 2016 at 3:20:43 PM UTC+1, rchrd@gmail.com wrote: > > Curtis I will let you know about the sort of skittles I am trying to make. > > Off out now,, Fish and chips later on yum yum!! > > > > I am back now Fish and chips were good. > > This is the skittle that I was hoping to copy when my disaster happened > It is 5" high by 1" 1/2 I have to make 9 of them for the kids. They will be > painted so cheap wood will do. > > I was trying to get two out of the disaster piece. But the pattern when I > do it properly should give me three out of one piece of wood > > On Monday, June 20, 2016 at 4:54:46 AM UTC+1, BRUCE TAYLOR wrote: > > I recently picked up a legacy 1200 mill and I am looking forward to > getting it put together and using it to do some projects, I want to make > some posts and other ornate items, I bought a showboat cmc 5x12 about 6 > years ago and use regularly in my cabinet and countertop business, wanted > to buy a mill then but never got around to it, so when I had the > opportunity to pick up one I jumped at the chance. I am interested in > adding the drive motor to it, I see some people have added other > aftermarket options, I would like to know what suggestions as to the pros > and cons of adding the drive s are, I added a 36" cmc indexer to my cmc bur > have not used it much. Thanks in advance for the help. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > To post to this group, send email to legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > . > Visit this group at > https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: new legacy 1200 Owner soon to be user
On Saturday, June 25, 2016 at 3:20:43 PM UTC+1, rchrd@gmail.com wrote: > > Curtis I will let you know about the sort of skittles I am trying to make. > Off out now,, Fish and chips later on yum yum!! > > I am back now Fish and chips were good. > This is the skittle that I was hoping to copy when my disaster happened > It is 5" high by 1" 1/2 I have to make 9 of them for the kids. They will be > painted so cheap wood will do. > I was trying to get two out of the disaster piece. But the pattern when I > do it properly should give me three out of one piece of wood > > On Monday, June 20, 2016 at 4:54:46 AM UTC+1, BRUCE TAYLOR wrote: >> >> I recently picked up a legacy 1200 mill and I am looking forward to >> getting it put together and using it to do some projects, I want to make >> some posts and other ornate items, I bought a showboat cmc 5x12 about 6 >> years ago and use regularly in my cabinet and countertop business, wanted >> to buy a mill then but never got around to it, so when I had the >> opportunity to pick up one I jumped at the chance. I am interested in >> adding the drive motor to it, I see some people have added other >> aftermarket options, I would like to know what suggestions as to the pros >> and cons of adding the drive s are, I added a 36" cmc indexer to my cmc bur >> have not used it much. Thanks in advance for the help. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: new legacy 1200 Owner soon to be user
On Monday, June 20, 2016 at 4:54:46 AM UTC+1, BRUCE TAYLOR wrote: > > I recently picked up a legacy 1200 mill and I am looking forward to > getting it put together and using it to do some projects, I want to make > some posts and other ornate items, I bought a showboat cmc 5x12 about 6 > years ago and use regularly in my cabinet and countertop business, wanted > to buy a mill then but never got around to it, so when I had the > opportunity to pick up one I jumped at the chance. I am interested in > adding the drive motor to it, I see some people have added other > aftermarket options, I would like to know what suggestions as to the pros > and cons of adding the drive s are, I added a 36" cmc indexer to my cmc bur > have not used it much. Thanks in advance for the help. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Project idea, trail and Error.
Curtis When I saw your project and pics. it reminded me of a friend ,(sadly gone to the great hunting grounds in the heavens ), He made a walking stick out of a bulls tool He hung it up to dry in his barn but not high enough to escape from the rats, the beggars eat anything !!! I do like the pattern on your stick, needs a good steady or two to stop the flexing. Threaded rod not a good idea maybe?? On Saturday, June 25, 2016 at 8:47:55 PM UTC+1, Curtis wrote: > > Hello Everyone. > Here is a project that I just wanted to try out, I glued it up over the > week, and let it fully dry, today I started the turning. > > What you are looking at is, end grain used on a walking stick, with an All > thread rod as the center/spine. of this rod. THe idea is/was to use end > grain wood for walking sticks, the rod would add strength and make it easy > to add on the handle and foot, once done. > > I had a lot of scraps in the old storage bin, Teak,Mahogany,and some kind > of neat looking pallet wood for central america. all cut into squares and > drilled out to fit onto a 3/8" steel all thread rod. > > The problem quickly was I,D,d . the center flexed a lot when being turned > on the Legacy, even at the slow speed of the Legacy, the wood flexed. I > tried to use my center support brace to keep the flexing, but sadly after > trying every trick that I could think of , the flex won out. This is much > thinner than I had planed, The end grain looks really nice, but I need to > find a better material for the spine. > Dose any one have any ideas??? > > Any and All ideas are (as always.) welcome. > > Have a Great weekend. > C.A.G. > > > > > [image/jpeg:IMG_6923.JPG] > > > > > > > [image/jpeg:IMG_6924.JPG] > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: new legacy 1200 Owner soon to be user
Curtis I will let you know about the sort of skittles I am trying to make. Off out now,, Fish and chips later on yum yum!! On Monday, June 20, 2016 at 4:54:46 AM UTC+1, BRUCE TAYLOR wrote: > > I recently picked up a legacy 1200 mill and I am looking forward to > getting it put together and using it to do some projects, I want to make > some posts and other ornate items, I bought a showboat cmc 5x12 about 6 > years ago and use regularly in my cabinet and countertop business, wanted > to buy a mill then but never got around to it, so when I had the > opportunity to pick up one I jumped at the chance. I am interested in > adding the drive motor to it, I see some people have added other > aftermarket options, I would like to know what suggestions as to the pros > and cons of adding the drive s are, I added a 36" cmc indexer to my cmc bur > have not used it much. Thanks in advance for the help. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: new legacy 1200 Owner soon to be user
Bill It was going to be a pair of small skittles, out of one piece, but of course being an idiot ,If they had turned out o.k. the round knob on top of each skittle would have meant that the piece in the Woodchuck would have flew into two bits when cutting the round knob. The bit of wood I was turning was a piece of a tree stake that was treated against rot !!!??? and lasted less than two years, quick grown rubbish , If it had been treated properly by vacuum/ pressure it should last for years, However a load of crooks just cheat ,,in and out of the vac/pressure plant as quickly as possible Ideal wood to practice on. Regards Richard On Saturday, June 25, 2016 at 12:54:57 AM UTC+1, aussiman wrote: > > Don’t worry we have all done plenty of those my kindling pile is quite > large in the corner of the shop some times > > That’s the beauty of woodworking even the mess-ups are useful they warm us > when it’s cold. > > Looks like your cut was a little too deep, lots of light cuts is the go > when template cutting from the side. > > I like people who post their pitfalls as well as their triumphs. > > Bill > > > > *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com [mailto: > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of * > rchrd@gmail.com > *Sent:* Saturday, 25 June 2016 3:40 AM > *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills > *Subject:* Re: new legacy 1200 Owner soon to be user > > > > Hi I am from the U.K. > > and this is my first attempt at following a Pattern, It was the best > laugh I have had all year > > On Monday, June 20, 2016 at 4:54:46 AM UTC+1, BRUCE TAYLOR wrote: > > I recently picked up a legacy 1200 mill and I am looking forward to > getting it put together and using it to do some projects, I want to make > some posts and other ornate items, I bought a showboat cmc 5x12 about 6 > years ago and use regularly in my cabinet and countertop business, wanted > to buy a mill then but never got around to it, so when I had the > opportunity to pick up one I jumped at the chance. I am interested in > adding the drive motor to it, I see some people have added other > aftermarket options, I would like to know what suggestions as to the pros > and cons of adding the drive s are, I added a 36" cmc indexer to my cmc bur > have not used it much. Thanks in advance for the help. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > To post to this group, send email to legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > . > Visit this group at > https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: new legacy 1200 Owner soon to be user
Curtis That spindle drive is a *very very good* idea it enables a faster speed for a little bit of sanding to finish of an item and of course as you say for copying : I have some skittles to make for a friend about 6" high 2" dia. When one does copy turning do you use a long cutter, cutting to the side of the spindle My Trend router lathe (Craftsman ) has to be from above . Richard On Monday, June 20, 2016 at 4:54:46 AM UTC+1, BRUCE TAYLOR wrote: > > I recently picked up a legacy 1200 mill and I am looking forward to > getting it put together and using it to do some projects, I want to make > some posts and other ornate items, I bought a showboat cmc 5x12 about 6 > years ago and use regularly in my cabinet and countertop business, wanted > to buy a mill then but never got around to it, so when I had the > opportunity to pick up one I jumped at the chance. I am interested in > adding the drive motor to it, I see some people have added other > aftermarket options, I would like to know what suggestions as to the pros > and cons of adding the drive s are, I added a 36" cmc indexer to my cmc bur > have not used it much. Thanks in advance for the help. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Woodchuck gears
Curtis I have a 3/4 sheet of good quality birch ply clamped to the Legacy and intend to clamp the 2x4 down to it it is for a garage door, may have to turn it over unless I do a blind mortise Wow those mortises are so so deep. Richard Sunday, June 19, 2016 at 4:26:07 PM UTC+1, Curtis wrote: > > Richard > long mortises are easy to do, but make sure the wood is clamped down good, > I had to make a brace of the back side of my machine to lock the spindle in > place so it would not move while mortising . > > The plunging movement is easy, I rec emend to make may plunges and then > route out the mortise in small bites. When I make my Mook Jongs (Wooden > Man Dummy s, for Wing Chun. The bodies are 9" dia. and 56" long.) the > mortises are appx. 8" to 10" deep. I buy extra long, two flute end mill > cutters, made for cutting Alum. when I mortise out my dummy's. I find end > mills are cheaper and higher quality then Router bits are. for 4"-6" the > prices are about the same as router bits, now when you get longer than 7" > the price goes up... HHS steel bits are cheaper than carbide, depending > on how much you plan to cut deep mortises the HHS are a better deal. but > again you get what you pay for. Carbide is a much better bit in the long > run... > > I have to go now. > have a good day. > > C.A.G. > > > -- > *From: *"rchrd ellis1" > > *To: *"Legacy Ornamental Mills" > > *Sent: *Sunday, June 19, 2016 3:53:07 AM > *Subject: *Re: Woodchuck gears > > Hi Bill and Curtis, > I have the Woodchuck up and running, with transformer and 110 volt drive > to the leadscrew all works ok but I am always looking for better ideas for > making better use of it's capabilities. I can do flutes and hollow spirals, > I intend today, to try to rout some mortises and tenons using a long half > inch router bit . It's all good fun. And I have metal work lathe and > milling machine in my other shed. To make odd clamps and bushes etc etc > Regards to you both and will keep trying to get the videos sorted. > Richard > > On Sunday, June 19, 2016 at 3:19:27 AM UTC+1, aussiman wrote: >> >> He’s facing the same problem i had with videos when i bought my legacy >> dvd helped me but when the woodchuck came out there was no dvd but if he >> can convert his videos to dvd fix the problem and it sure will be >> interesting to see the difference between the 2 also will be of benefit to >> him in the assembly to make sure its together and working properly >> especially like drive motors i know the woodchuck had a drive motor on the >> spindle ours don’t >> >> Bill >> >> >> >> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <http://JAVASCRIPT-BLOCKED> >> [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com >> <http://JAVASCRIPT-BLOCKED>] *On Behalf Of *CURTIS GEORGE >> *Sent:* Sunday, 19 June 2016 4:30 AM >> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <http://JAVASCRIPT-BLOCKED> >> *Subject:* Re: Woodchuck gears >> >> >> >> Hello Everyone, >> >> Richard http://legacywoodworking.com/techniques.cfm still has there >> training section of there web site up and running .It cant hurt to watch on >> line. as far as the videos??? I don't know how to help you out with that >> one. I wish you luck. >> >> >> >> more latter. >> >> C.A.G. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> *From: *"rchrd ellis1" http://JAVASCRIPT-BLOCKED>> >> *To: *"Legacy Ornamental Mills" > <http://JAVASCRIPT-BLOCKED>> >> *Sent: *Saturday, June 18, 2016 1:07:51 PM >> *Subject: *Re: Woodchuck gears >> >> >> >> Bill I will try to do as you say, and if I can get it on DVD will try to >> post off to you. >> >> I am at present watching a copy device on a for sale site, if not to much >> money I will buy it. >> >> >> >> On Saturday, June 18, 2016 at 4:50:57 PM UTC+1, aussiman wrote: >> >> Your video player probably plays on the Pal system as we do here in >> Australia were America plays on the Ntsc system >> >> Which means the USA videos won’t play for you. If you can find a place >> somewhere in your country there that converts video tapes to DVDs that will >> fix your problem you can then watch the dvd >> >> If you do I would like a copy myself I don’t have much video of the >> woodchuck I do of the legacy mills but not the woodchuck I don’t own one >> but out of i
Re: Woodchuck gears
Hi Bill and Curtis, I have the Woodchuck up and running, with transformer and 110 volt drive to the leadscrew all works ok but I am always looking for better ideas for making better use of it's capabilities. I can do flutes and hollow spirals, I intend today, to try to rout some mortises and tenons using a long half inch router bit . It's all good fun. And I have metal work lathe and milling machine in my other shed. To make odd clamps and bushes etc etc Regards to you both and will keep trying to get the videos sorted. Richard On Sunday, June 19, 2016 at 3:19:27 AM UTC+1, aussiman wrote: > > He’s facing the same problem i had with videos when i bought my legacy dvd > helped me but when the woodchuck came out there was no dvd but if he can > convert his videos to dvd fix the problem and it sure will be interesting > to see the difference between the 2 also will be of benefit to him in the > assembly to make sure its together and working properly especially like > drive motors i know the woodchuck had a drive motor on the spindle ours > don’t > > Bill > > > > *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com [mailto: > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *CURTIS > GEORGE > *Sent:* Sunday, 19 June 2016 4:30 AM > *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: Woodchuck gears > > > > Hello Everyone, > > Richard http://legacywoodworking.com/techniques.cfm still has there > training section of there web site up and running .It cant hurt to watch on > line. as far as the videos??? I don't know how to help you out with that > one. I wish you luck. > > > > more latter. > > C.A.G. > > > > -- > > *From: *"rchrd ellis1" > > *To: *"Legacy Ornamental Mills" > > *Sent: *Saturday, June 18, 2016 1:07:51 PM > *Subject: *Re: Woodchuck gears > > > > Bill I will try to do as you say, and if I can get it on DVD will try to > post off to you. > > I am at present watching a copy device on a for sale site, if not to much > money I will buy it. > > > > On Saturday, June 18, 2016 at 4:50:57 PM UTC+1, aussiman wrote: > > Your video player probably plays on the Pal system as we do here in > Australia were America plays on the Ntsc system > > Which means the USA videos won’t play for you. If you can find a place > somewhere in your country there that converts video tapes to DVDs that will > fix your problem you can then watch the dvd > > If you do I would like a copy myself I don’t have much video of the > woodchuck I do of the legacy mills but not the woodchuck I don’t own one > but out of interest I would like to see videos of the woodchuck. > > > > Bill > > > > > > *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <http://JAVASCRIPT-BLOCKED> > [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > <http://JAVASCRIPT-BLOCKED>] *On Behalf Of *rchrd@gmail.com > <http://JAVASCRIPT-BLOCKED> > *Sent:* Sunday, 19 June 2016 12:25 AM > *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills > *Subject:* Re: Woodchuck gears > > > > Bill > > Many thanks for all the info. > > I live and learn and of course forget. As follows-- When I bought this > Woodchuck it came with two video tapes VHS. Went o play them on a VHS > player and the *slow and low *voice is all I got , and no pictures. of > the spiral techniques. It took me quite a while to work out why !!! > Over 50 years ago, 1957 I think, I served on a T2 Tanker U.S.A. and built > during the second world war. It was 60 cycles and maybe 110 volts. > > > > I had a Grundig tape recorder and then and I think I had to use a > rectifier and transformer to get it to work. All good fun with that fairly > new technology in those days. It had a mike and one of the older seamen > spoke into it giving the lat. and longitude of where we were on the ocean. > A great performance after a few beers ,I might say !! Next day (when the > beer had worn off ) he said Quote ( aah be je-- do you think they heard me > in *Australia*, > > That is a true story. The old tanker was named Steens Mountain later > changed to Mary Ellen Conway, she caught fire in Mexico and the tug who > pulled her away from the dock caught fire as well. > > Memories memories. but I now know why the tapes don't work > > Regards > > Richard > > On Saturday, June 18, 2016 at 11:27:16 AM UTC+1, aussiman wrote: > > There are quiet routers out there but they are worth a fortune ear muffs > are cheaper J > > Put the large gears on and go through all the little gears they are what > changes the pitches > > > > Bil
Re: Woodchuck gears
Bill I will try to do as you say, and if I can get it on DVD will try to post off to you. I am at present watching a copy device on a for sale site, if not to much money I will buy it. On Saturday, June 18, 2016 at 4:50:57 PM UTC+1, aussiman wrote: > > Your video player probably plays on the Pal system as we do here in > Australia were America plays on the Ntsc system > > Which means the USA videos won’t play for you. If you can find a place > somewhere in your country there that converts video tapes to DVDs that will > fix your problem you can then watch the dvd > > If you do I would like a copy myself I don’t have much video of the > woodchuck I do of the legacy mills but not the woodchuck I don’t own one > but out of interest I would like to see videos of the woodchuck. > > > > Bill > > > > > > *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com [mailto: > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of * > rchrd@gmail.com > *Sent:* Sunday, 19 June 2016 12:25 AM > *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills > *Subject:* Re: Woodchuck gears > > > > Bill > > Many thanks for all the info. > > I live and learn and of course forget. As follows-- When I bought this > Woodchuck it came with two video tapes VHS. Went o play them on a VHS > player and the *slow and low *voice is all I got , and no pictures. of > the spiral techniques. It took me quite a while to work out why !!! > Over 50 years ago, 1957 I think, I served on a T2 Tanker U.S.A. and built > during the second world war. It was 60 cycles and maybe 110 volts. > > > > I had a Grundig tape recorder and then and I think I had to use a > rectifier and transformer to get it to work. All good fun with that fairly > new technology in those days. It had a mike and one of the older seamen > spoke into it giving the lat. and longitude of where we were on the ocean. > A great performance after a few beers ,I might say !! Next day (when the > beer had worn off ) he said Quote ( aah be je-- do you think they heard me > in *Australia*, > > That is a true story. The old tanker was named Steens Mountain later > changed to Mary Ellen Conway, she caught fire in Mexico and the tug who > pulled her away from the dock caught fire as well. > > Memories memories. but I now know why the tapes don't work > > Regards > > Richard > > On Saturday, June 18, 2016 at 11:27:16 AM UTC+1, aussiman wrote: > > There are quiet routers out there but they are worth a fortune ear muffs > are cheaper J > > Put the large gears on and go through all the little gears they are what > changes the pitches > > > > Bill > > > > *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com [mailto: > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of * > rchrd@gmail.com > *Sent:* Saturday, 18 June 2016 8:18 PM > *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills > *Subject:* Re: Woodchuck gears > > > > Bill , some of course are on the drive train i:e 180/45 and 180 also 45. > > The worse thing about routers is the noise, wish they had induction motors > be much quieter. > > I will try your suggestion and write down the results > > Richard > > On Saturday, June 18, 2016 at 9:45:03 AM UTC+1, rchrd@gmail.com wrote: > > Her is a pic of some of the gears and the shelf, I intend to put another > shelf and cupboards lower down when I make the frame for a set of casters > so that I can move it around the floor easily > > On Friday, June 17, 2016 at 10:27:35 AM UTC+1, rchrd@gmail.com wrote: > > Thank Curtis for the GEAR CHART it is a great help > > > > These are the gears that I have, also two alloy plates with the large > oblong hole just, I assume, for indexing flutes etc etc ,,one has 36 > indexing holes and the other 40 holes > > > > > > Floating ( Large oblong hole ) > > > > 2 X 240 -- 38 > > 180--120 > > 180--75 > > 180--45 > > > > Other gears with small square hole > > 24 teeth > > 30 > > 36 > > 45 three of these > > 120 > > 150 > > 180 > > 240 > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at > https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > To post to this group, send email to legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > . > Visit this group at > https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to th
Re: Woodchuck gears
Bill Many thanks for all the info. I live and learn and of course forget. As follows-- When I bought this Woodchuck it came with two video tapes VHS. Went o play them on a VHS player and the *slow and low *voice is all I got , and no pictures. of the spiral techniques. It took me quite a while to work out why !!! Over 50 years ago, 1957 I think, I served on a T2 Tanker U.S.A. and built during the second world war. It was 60 cycles and maybe 110 volts. I had a Grundig tape recorder and then and I think I had to use a rectifier and transformer to get it to work. All good fun with that fairly new technology in those days. It had a mike and one of the older seamen spoke into it giving the lat. and longitude of where we were on the ocean. A great performance after a few beers ,I might say !! Next day (when the beer had worn off ) he said Quote ( aah be je-- do you think they heard me in Australia, That is a true story. The old tanker was named Steens Mountain later changed to Mary Ellen Conway, she caught fire in Mexico and the tug who pulled her away from the dock caught fire as well. Memories memories. but I now know why the tapes don't work Regards Richard On Saturday, June 18, 2016 at 11:27:16 AM UTC+1, aussiman wrote: > > There are quiet routers out there but they are worth a fortune ear muffs > are cheaper J > > Put the large gears on and go through all the little gears they are what > changes the pitches > > > > Bill > > > > *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com [mailto: > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of * > rchrd@gmail.com > *Sent:* Saturday, 18 June 2016 8:18 PM > *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills > *Subject:* Re: Woodchuck gears > > > > Bill , some of course are on the drive train i:e 180/45 and 180 also 45. > > The worse thing about routers is the noise, wish they had induction motors > be much quieter. > > I will try your suggestion and write down the results > > Richard > > On Saturday, June 18, 2016 at 9:45:03 AM UTC+1, rchrd@gmail.com wrote: > > Her is a pic of some of the gears and the shelf, I intend to put another > shelf and cupboards lower down when I make the frame for a set of casters > so that I can move it around the floor easily > > On Friday, June 17, 2016 at 10:27:35 AM UTC+1, rchrd@gmail.com wrote: > > Thank Curtis for the GEAR CHART it is a great help > > > > These are the gears that I have, also two alloy plates with the large > oblong hole just, I assume, for indexing flutes etc etc ,,one has 36 > indexing holes and the other 40 holes > > > > > > Floating ( Large oblong hole ) > > > > 2 X 240 -- 38 > > 180--120 > > 180--75 > > 180--45 > > > > Other gears with small square hole > > 24 teeth > > 30 > > 36 > > 45 three of these > > 120 > > 150 > > 180 > > 240 > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > To post to this group, send email to legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > . > Visit this group at > https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Woodchuck gears
Bill , some of course are on the drive train i:e 180/45 and 180 also 45. The worse thing about routers is the noise, wish they had induction motors be much quieter. I will try your suggestion and write down the results Richard On Saturday, June 18, 2016 at 9:45:03 AM UTC+1, rchrd@gmail.com wrote: > > Her is a pic of some of the gears and the shelf, I intend to put another > shelf and cupboards lower down when I make the frame for a set of casters > so that I can move it around the floor easily > > On Friday, June 17, 2016 at 10:27:35 AM UTC+1, rchrd@gmail.com wrote: >> >> Thank Curtis for the GEAR CHART it is a great help >> >> These are the gears that I have, also two alloy plates with the large >> oblong hole just, I assume, for indexing flutes etc etc ,,one has 36 >> indexing holes and the other 40 holes >> >> >> Floating ( Large oblong hole ) >> >> 2 X 240 -- 38 >> 180--120 >> 180--75 >> 180--45 >> >> Other gears with small square hole >> 24 teeth >> 30 >> 36 >> 45 three of these >> 120 >> 150 >> 180 >> 240 >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: MA 12 legacy mill
Bill That is what I like doing, I just have to try to make things work better (Try and ,maybe sometimes making it worse in my case ) In your pics of the sprocket etc. I notice that you have brass bushings on the *slotted gear adjusters*. ( What are they properly called) my Woodchuck has plain holes and not bushed at all. Regards Richard On Friday, June 17, 2016 at 10:00:11 PM UTC+1, Curtis wrote: > > Bill that was a Great idea of yours. And on that a lot of our members in > the group could use, if need be. Thanks for reminding us. > C.A.G. > > -- > *From: *"Bill Bulkeley" > > *To: *legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > *Sent: *Friday, June 17, 2016 10:19:29 AM > *Subject: *RE: MA 12 legacy mill > > Just to throw a few more pitches in the mix here is some notes of mine > copied from the archives on fine pitches that i posted a few years ago > might interest some of the newer members who might have missed my old post. > > > > Bill > > > > *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com [mailto: > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *Bill > Bulkeley > *Sent:* Friday, 17 June 2016 11:11 PM > *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* RE: MA 12 legacy mill > > > > Yea your probably right its more just to have them rather than need them. > Are the rest of woodchuck gears the same as the legacy mills i haven’t > compared the charts to see > > Bill > > > > *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com [mailto: > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *CURTIS > GEORGE > *Sent:* Friday, 17 June 2016 10:59 PM > *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: MA 12 legacy mill > > > > Hey Bill > > the .5 gear set was doped by Phantom, before it became Legacy, It was > found that there were only a few pitches that you could use with the .5 > gear that could not be made up with the other gear sets, for simplicity > purposes and the cost of having the gears made, it just was not worth the > effort. > > My friend Kevin has a WoodChuck and I have borrowed his .5 gear set a > while back ago. (back in the days when I was looking for the magical one > gear set that could produce the smoothest spindle cut possible.) I found > that, it wasn't all that handy for me. > > Just my two cents worth of it. ;-) > > Have a good day. > > > > C.A.G. > > > -- > > *From: *"Bill Bulkeley" > > *To: *legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > *Sent: *Friday, June 17, 2016 8:41:03 AM > *Subject: *RE: MA 12 legacy mill > > > > I see the woodchucks had a .5 gear set our newer mills don’t have that i > might just have to make my self a set of them and see if they will work on > my mill. > > Richard did your wood chuck come with a user manual i would like to see one > > Bill > > > > *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com [mailto: > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *CURTIS > GEORGE > *Sent:* Friday, 17 June 2016 2:13 PM > *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: MA 12 legacy mill > > > > Richard. I hope this helps? > > C.A.G. > -- > > *From: *"rchrd ellis1" > > *To: *"Legacy Ornamental Mills" > > *Sent: *Thursday, June 16, 2016 11:22:18 AM > *Subject: *Re: MA 12 legacy mill > > > > Mike I have just spent a long while writing a list of gears, and I thought > I had posted, but can't see it and I don't know where it has gone , does it > go to drafts or where > > Richard > > > > On Tuesday, June 14, 2016 at 7:35:05 AM UTC+1, rchrd@gmail.com wrote: > > Thanks Mike, > > That will be a great help, it takes a bit of sorting, getting too old, > brain is a bit slow, and when I have learnt how to do it I forget the next > day!!!??? > > Regards > > Richard > > > > On Monday, June 13, 2016 at 4:57:01 PM UTC+1, LILtwisted wrote: > > I am currently out of town but when I get back I will take a picture of > the gears that I have and the pitches they produce, this should help you > out a bit. I'll touch base when I return > > Mike > > OK > -- > > *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > on behalf of rchrd@gmail.com > *Sent:* Sunday, June 12, 2016 11:17:59 AM > *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills > *Subject:* Re: MA 12 legacy mill > > > > Here is the pic. of the handwheel > > On Monday, June 6, 2016 at 1:24:07 PM UTC+1, rchrd@gmail.comwrote: > > Hi All > > I
Woodchuck gears
Thank Curtis for the GEAR CHART it is a great help These are the gears that I have, also two alloy plates with the large oblong hole just, I assume, for indexing flutes etc etc ,,one has 36 indexing holes and the other 40 holes Floating ( Large oblong hole ) 2 X 240 -- 38 180--120 180--75 180--45 Other gears with small square hole 24 teeth 30 36 45 three of these 120 150 180 240 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: MA 12 legacy mill
Mike I have just spent a long while writing a list of gears, and I thought I had posted, but can't see it and I don't know where it has gone , does it go to drafts or where Richard On Tuesday, June 14, 2016 at 7:35:05 AM UTC+1, rchrd@gmail.com wrote: > > Thanks Mike, > That will be a great help, it takes a bit of sorting, getting too old, > brain is a bit slow, and when I have learnt how to do it I forget the next > day!!!??? > Regards > Richard > > On Monday, June 13, 2016 at 4:57:01 PM UTC+1, LILtwisted wrote: >> >> I am currently out of town but when I get back I will take a picture of >> the gears that I have and the pitches they produce, this should help you >> out a bit. I'll touch base when I return >> >> Mike >> >> OK >> -- >> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com >> on behalf of rchrd@gmail.com >> *Sent:* Sunday, June 12, 2016 11:17:59 AM >> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills >> *Subject:* Re: MA 12 legacy mill >> >> Here is the pic. of the handwheel >> >> On Monday, June 6, 2016 at 1:24:07 PM UTC+1, rchrd@gmail.com wrote: >>> >>> Hi All >>> I am tomorrow going to have a look at an MA12 legacy mill that was >>> bought new in 1994. Has anyone any advice to tell me what problems ,if any >>> ,to look for. >>> I am in the U.K. and I do not think there many about in this country It >>> is priced at £500 and 200 miles away. >>> Looking forward to seeing it, and if I buy it, chatting about it on this >>> group that I have just joined, >>> Regards >>> Richard >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at >> https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: MA 12 legacy mill
Thanks Mike, That will be a great help, it takes a bit of sorting, getting too old, brain is a bit slow, and when I have learnt how to do it I forget the next day!!!??? Regards Richard On Monday, June 13, 2016 at 4:57:01 PM UTC+1, LILtwisted wrote: > > I am currently out of town but when I get back I will take a picture of > the gears that I have and the pitches they produce, this should help you > out a bit. I'll touch base when I return > > Mike > > OK > -- > *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com < > legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > on behalf of > rchrd@gmail.com > > *Sent:* Sunday, June 12, 2016 11:17:59 AM > *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills > *Subject:* Re: MA 12 legacy mill > > Here is the pic. of the handwheel > > On Monday, June 6, 2016 at 1:24:07 PM UTC+1, rchrd@gmail.com wrote: >> >> Hi All >> I am tomorrow going to have a look at an MA12 legacy mill that was >> bought new in 1994. Has anyone any advice to tell me what problems ,if any >> ,to look for. >> I am in the U.K. and I do not think there many about in this country It >> is priced at £500 and 200 miles away. >> Looking forward to seeing it, and if I buy it, chatting about it on this >> group that I have just joined, >> Regards >> Richard >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > To post to this group, send email to legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > . > Visit this group at > https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: MA 12 legacy mill
Yep! I bought it ,paid far too much, I do like a challenge,? The split nut is hinged, however when the hinge is open the leadscrew must hit and wear out the thread (6 foot leadscrew sag ) if one wants to do planing or fluting cuts on a flat or round piece of wood. I am still cleaning it and checking everything before I make a cut. The indexing pin was bent, now straightened, the knob on the end of the spindle has been replaced with a small hand wheel ,to enable a continuous turn as with the knob one had to take fresh grip to complete a smooth turn whilst planing etc. It came with a Ryobi RE-601 router, also a 110volt drive motor to the leadscrew plus Transfomer 240 to 110 volts (I am in the U.K.) two limit switches for the travel stops (leadscrew). I have a Trend router that I will fit today as I have a few 1/4" cutters and don't as yet have a 1/2/ to1/4 collett for the Ryobi. The indexing pin, that was bent, is only held in the open position by a simple friction plate , a very very poor idea , maybe that is how it got bent or was left in by mistake. I am still getting my head round the gear set up, as the plate gears that go onto the spindle have just 12 indexing holes, how I can make a pepper mill as shown., is beyond me. I did take a pic. of the mill but will try to put it on show later. I will have to make a chart when I have time for the gear set up (have to do the sums ) Regards Richard On Saturday, June 11, 2016 at 2:31:55 PM UTC+1, Curtis wrote: > > Richard did you end up buying this Wood-Chuck mill? ON the WC mills that > Ive seen the split nut was hinged on to the carriage assembly. Can you take > some pictures of this mill for us? also was there more than one carriage > assembly with your mill? Phantom at that time use to sell one than one > carriage assembly for the mill. > And One more question, do you have a motor drive? if so one or two motors? > Have a great weekend. > looking forward to hearing about your adventures. > C.A.G. > > ------ > *From: *"rchrd ellis1" > > *To: *"Legacy Ornamental Mills" > > *Sent: *Saturday, June 11, 2016 2:25:29 AM > *Subject: *Re: MA 12 legacy mill > > Thanks Aussiman > I have sent an email off to him, what I need is a half-nut however I can > always make one from some delrin no doubt after a few tries!!!??? > > On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 3:10:08 AM UTC+1, aussiman wrote: >> >> Try this >> http://legacycnc.wpengine.com/legacy-associate-program/find-an-associate/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=Legacy+CNC+July+4th+Sales+Event&utm_campaign=4th+of+July+Promotion >> >> Click on the red marker for uk >> >> This wayne guy is suppose to be the uk legacy man now but it is legacy >> cnc so i don’t know if he knows much about the old manual stuff like roger >> his predecessor did >> >> Bill >> >> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <http://JAVASCRIPT-BLOCKED> >> [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com >> <http://JAVASCRIPT-BLOCKED>] *On Behalf Of *MWF >> *Sent:* Friday, 10 June 2016 3:06 AM >> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <http://JAVASCRIPT-BLOCKED> >> *Subject:* Re: MA 12 legacy mill >> >> >> >> Richard, >> Before I drove that far for that particular machine, I'd wait for comment >> to pop up from "The House of Roger" there in the UK. Before he ascended to >> the role of "HRH Roger" (meaning he retired - and his wife loves him >> dearly) Roger sold Legacy machines in the UK (and maybe even sold that >> earlier version.) >> He could probably give you the best info. >> Mac >> -- >> -- >> >> -Original Message- >> From: CURTIS GEORGE >> Sent: Jun 6, 2016 8:48 AM >> To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <http://JAVASCRIPT-BLOCKED> >> Subject: Re: MA 12 legacy mill >> >> >> Hello and good morning everyone, Richard is our newest member. Im sorry >> to say this in only half of his message, This is the first part. >> >> >> >> "Hi I am at the present time using a Trend Router Lathe, and find it a >> bit constricting . I am also looking to buy a MA 12 Legacy. It is described >> as a 5 axis built in the 1990's I am a little unsure and a 400 mile trip to >> have a look at it is a bit daunting Regards Richard." >> >> (For everyone info. the MA 12 was an early woodchuck machine, and if >> I remember correctly it was made to be a kit machine, Here is the basic >> part and its up to you to make the rest. using th
Re: MA 12 legacy mill
Thanks Aussiman I have sent an email off to him, what I need is a half-nut however I can always make one from some delrin no doubt after a few tries!!!??? On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 3:10:08 AM UTC+1, aussiman wrote: > > Try this > http://legacycnc.wpengine.com/legacy-associate-program/find-an-associate/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=Legacy+CNC+July+4th+Sales+Event&utm_campaign=4th+of+July+Promotion > > Click on the red marker for uk > > This wayne guy is suppose to be the uk legacy man now but it is legacy cnc > so i don’t know if he knows much about the old manual stuff like roger his > predecessor did > > Bill > > *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com [mailto: > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *MWF > *Sent:* Friday, 10 June 2016 3:06 AM > *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: MA 12 legacy mill > > > > Richard, > Before I drove that far for that particular machine, I'd wait for comment > to pop up from "The House of Roger" there in the UK. Before he ascended to > the role of "HRH Roger" (meaning he retired - and his wife loves him > dearly) Roger sold Legacy machines in the UK (and maybe even sold that > earlier version.) > He could probably give you the best info. > Mac > -- > -- > > -Original Message- > From: CURTIS GEORGE > Sent: Jun 6, 2016 8:48 AM > To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: MA 12 legacy mill > > > Hello and good morning everyone, Richard is our newest member. Im sorry > to say this in only half of his message, This is the first part. > > > > "Hi I am at the present time using a Trend Router Lathe, and find it a bit > constricting . I am also looking to buy a MA 12 Legacy. It is described as > a 5 axis built in the 1990's I am a little unsure and a 400 mile trip to > have a look at it is a bit daunting Regards Richard." > > (For everyone info. the MA 12 was an early woodchuck machine, and if > I remember correctly it was made to be a kit machine, Here is the basic > part and its up to you to make the rest. using there basic blueprints.) > > Richard the MA12 is also somewhat limited , it was an early model that > grew into what we now call the Legacy Ornamental mill. but having said > that, If you are happy with the price. the gears and drive screw and > hub adapter... and some other parts form the MA12 could be used to make a > very nice machine. all depending on your skills as an builder and your > needs to make a better router mill. > > I wish you luck and Please let us know how this turns out for you. > > > > C.A.G. > -- > > *From: *"rchrd ellis1" > > *To: *"Legacy Ornamental Mills" > > *Sent: *Monday, June 6, 2016 8:01:32 AM > *Subject: *MA 12 legacy mill > > > > Hi All > > I am tomorrow going to have a look at an MA12 legacy mill that was bought > new in 1994. Has anyone any advice to tell me what problems ,if any ,to > look for. > > I am in the U.K. and I do not think there many about in this country It is > priced at £500 and 200 miles away. > > Looking forward to seeing it, and if I buy it, chatting about it on this > group that I have just joined, > > Regards > > Richard > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2015.0.6201 / Virus Database: 4598/12392 - Release Date: 06/09/16 > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > To post to this group, send email to legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > . > Visit this group at > https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
MA 12 legacy mill
Hi All I am tomorrow going to have a look at an MA12 legacy mill that was bought new in 1994. Has anyone any advice to tell me what problems ,if any ,to look for. I am in the U.K. and I do not think there many about in this country It is priced at £500 and 200 miles away. Looking forward to seeing it, and if I buy it, chatting about it on this group that I have just joined, Regards Richard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
