RE: Sweet gum wood

[bulkeley]

No  I never have, I usually just throw it out, but I must try it some day. I 
have also been told you can just leave  them in the hot sun for a couple of 
days will dry them out I will try it on the next piece I dry out

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Dexter Bland
Sent: Saturday, 14 March 2020 8:20 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: Sweet gum wood

 

Bill, 

Have you tried "renewing" the kitty litter. By that i mean taking it out and 
drying it in an oven or some other hot space? Chem labs use desiccant to draw 
the moisture out of samples and it turns from blue to pink when it has absorbed 
moisture. You can then put the desiccant in an oven to dry it out and re-use 
the crystals. 


On Wednesday, March 11, 2020 at 5:03:03 AM UTC-5, aussiman wrote:

kitty litter crystals is made of silica gel I just leave covered in the litter 
in a sealed container usually for a couple of months depending on wood 
thickness changing the crystals every few weeks or when the few coloured 
crystals change colour if the litter has the few coloured crystals in it mine 
does.

and keep weighing the wood it till it stops getting lighter. I don’t bother 
recharging or drying out the crystals kitty litter is cheap I just throw it 
out. And this method does seem to help stop cracking by drying the wood evenly 
all over provided it is totally submerged in the crystals. There is a video out 
there somewhere of carl Jacobson doing the same thing in rice.

 

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Re: Sweet gum wood

[Dexter Bland]

Bill, 
Have you tried "renewing" the kitty litter. By that i mean taking it out 
and drying it in an oven or some other hot space? Chem labs use desiccant 
to draw the moisture out of samples and it turns from blue to pink when it 
has absorbed moisture. You can then put the desiccant in an oven to dry it 
out and re-use the crystals. 

On Wednesday, March 11, 2020 at 5:03:03 AM UTC-5, aussiman wrote:
>
>
> 
>
> 
>
> 
>
> kitty litter crystals is made of silica gel I just leave covered in the 
> litter in a sealed container usually for a couple of months depending on 
> wood thickness changing the crystals every few weeks or when the few 
> coloured crystals change colour if the litter has the few coloured crystals 
> in it mine does.
>
> and keep weighing the wood it till it stops getting lighter. I don’t 
> bother recharging or drying out the crystals kitty litter is cheap I just 
> throw it out. And this method does seem to help stop cracking by drying the 
> wood evenly all over provided it is totally submerged in the crystals. 
> There is a video out there somewhere of carl Jacobson doing the same thing 
> in rice.
>
>

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Re: Sweet gum wood

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

 Hello everyone.I work at a hospital, When we have bed bugs or any little 
critters, we can not use chemicals, what we do it use heat. 150 deg. for one 
hour kills all the bugs. They use sensors to know when the heat is at the lowes 
areas of a room. once temperature has been reached, one hour dose it.  I would 
think the same process of heat will kill insects the same way in kiln drying? 
Perhaps a high temp, at the beginning of the drying process would help?Just my 
two cents worth of it in this topic.
C.A.G. 
On Thursday, March 12, 2020, 10:46:27 AM EDT, Michael Kratky 
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On an abbreviated scale controlling the environment and a niche drying system 
could work I’ve even dried small pieces in a microwave and made a small kiln 
out of a stripped out refrigerator but not for any large amounts of timber, 
pesticides are regulated for a reason and expensive. Difference approaches 
obviously are required for every climate the 100° temperature variance and 80% 
humidity swings here in the northeast compared to Australia is a prime example 
but the wood species there is sure outstanding, I would gladly swap my cherry 
or maple burls for brown/red mallee anytime even some of that sweet gum wood.  

  

Anytime you’re over this way stop and hang out have a spare room (actually a 
house) for you complete with a saw mill, there’s even a hugh 
woodturning/woodworking  show nearby the end of the month, Totally 
Turning/Woodworkers Showcase. 

  

Michael

  

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2020 9:39 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sweet gum wood

  

I believe we have them here as well but I have not seen them but I don’t air 
dry timber either can’t you spray the timber with some sort of insect killing 
spray as its drying to keep all the nasties away. For me I think I will keep 
doing what I’m doing seems to work for me ok

  

Bill

  

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Michael Kratky
Sent: Thursday, 12 March 2020 11:52 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sweet gum wood

  

Termites are not the only a concern, powder post beetles, carpenter ants and 
the pine bore beetle are more of a problem for air drying timber kept elevated 
above the soil. I was in the home inspection and environmental testing business 
for 20 years, wood destroying insect infestation inspections was part of that.

  

Michael

  

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 10:28 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sweet gum wood

  

Certain woods here too termites being the main one or white ants as we call 
them. But other woods here are resistant to bugs

Here is a list.

as for the best time to harvest green wood I wouldn’t have a clue its usually 
when I see it and can I get it especially burls not that many around me, 
sometimes a good tree stump gives a nice burl look and yes most native wood 
here is very hard and very dense  I guess that’s how it is when you live in a 
mostly desert country.

  

  

  

Bill

  

  

Sent: Thursday, 12 March 2020 12:34 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sweet gum wood

  

Any wood species that I’ve ever seen or worked with out of Australia is dense 
and bone dry but prized.

  

One tip I’m aware of being a sawyer is felling lumber in the winter when the 
sap content is low which helps considerably

RE: Sweet gum wood

[bulkeley]

Thank you a very kind offer if I ever travel to the US I will do just that and 
the same here I don’t have a whole house but your welcome in mine. And you can 
take a ton of wood back with you

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Michael Kratky
Sent: Friday, 13 March 2020 1:46 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sweet gum wood

 

On an abbreviated scale controlling the environment and a niche drying system 
could work I’ve even dried small pieces in a microwave and made a small kiln 
out of a stripped out refrigerator but not for any large amounts of timber, 
pesticides are regulated for a reason and expensive. Difference approaches 
obviously are required for every climate the 100° temperature variance and 80% 
humidity swings here in the northeast compared to Australia is a prime example 
but the wood species there is sure outstanding, I would gladly swap my cherry 
or maple burls for brown/red mallee anytime even some of that sweet gum wood.  

 

Anytime you’re over this way stop and hang out have a spare room (actually a 
house) for you complete with a saw mill, there’s even a hugh 
woodturning/woodworking  show nearby the end of the month, Totally 
Turning/Woodworkers Showcase. 

 

Michael

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> 
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2020 9:39 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Sweet gum wood

 

I believe we have them here as well but I have not seen them but I don’t air 
dry timber either can’t you spray the timber with some sort of insect killing 
spray as its drying to keep all the nasties away. For me I think I will keep 
doing what I’m doing seems to work for me ok

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Michael Kratky
Sent: Thursday, 12 March 2020 11:52 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Sweet gum wood

 

Termites are not the only a concern, powder post beetles, carpenter ants and 
the pine bore beetle are more of a problem for air drying timber kept elevated 
above the soil. I was in the home inspection and environmental testing business 
for 20 years, wood destroying insect infestation inspections was part of that.

 

Michael

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> 
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 10:28 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Sweet gum wood

 

Certain woods here too termites being the main one or white ants as we call 
them. But other woods here are resistant to bugs

Here is a list.

as for the best time to harvest green wood I wouldn’t have a clue its usually 
when I see it and can I get it especially burls not that many around me, 
sometimes a good tree stump gives a nice burl look and yes most native wood 
here is very hard and very dense  I guess that’s how it is when you live in a 
mostly desert country.

 

 

 

Bill

 

 

Sent: Thursday, 12 March 2020 12:34 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Sweet gum wood

 

Any wood species that I’ve ever seen or worked with out of Australia is dense 
and bone dry but prized.

 

One tip I’m aware of being a sawyer is felling lumber in the winter when the 
sap content is low which helps considerably to reduce shrinkage, checking and 
splitting. The other problem here is any “white wood” like maple, ash, birch, 
beech, pine left to air dry is subject to significant insect infestation the 
only solution is kiln dry it.

 

Michael 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> 
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 9:08 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Sweet gum wood

 

Holy crap that is expensive that same size bag is only $7 in our cheap bargain 
shop here also I always find a container just a little larger than the piece so 
I don’t have to use too much a foot square block cost me 3 bags to cover $21.

But at $20 a bag your money it would cost me over $90 AU way too much money

 

So it looks like it is a living in a differe

RE: Sweet gum wood

[Michael Kratky]

On an abbreviated scale controlling the environment and a niche drying system 
could work I’ve even dried small pieces in a microwave and made a small kiln 
out of a stripped out refrigerator but not for any large amounts of timber, 
pesticides are regulated for a reason and expensive. Difference approaches 
obviously are required for every climate the 100° temperature variance and 80% 
humidity swings here in the northeast compared to Australia is a prime example 
but the wood species there is sure outstanding, I would gladly swap my cherry 
or maple burls for brown/red mallee anytime even some of that sweet gum wood.  

 

Anytime you’re over this way stop and hang out have a spare room (actually a 
house) for you complete with a saw mill, there’s even a hugh 
woodturning/woodworking  show nearby the end of the month, Totally 
Turning/Woodworkers Showcase. 

 

Michael

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2020 9:39 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sweet gum wood

 

I believe we have them here as well but I have not seen them but I don’t air 
dry timber either can’t you spray the timber with some sort of insect killing 
spray as its drying to keep all the nasties away. For me I think I will keep 
doing what I’m doing seems to work for me ok

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Michael Kratky
Sent: Thursday, 12 March 2020 11:52 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sweet gum wood

 

Termites are not the only a concern, powder post beetles, carpenter ants and 
the pine bore beetle are more of a problem for air drying timber kept elevated 
above the soil. I was in the home inspection and environmental testing business 
for 20 years, wood destroying insect infestation inspections was part of that.

 

Michael

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 10:28 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sweet gum wood

 

Certain woods here too termites being the main one or white ants as we call 
them. But other woods here are resistant to bugs

Here is a list.

as for the best time to harvest green wood I wouldn’t have a clue its usually 
when I see it and can I get it especially burls not that many around me, 
sometimes a good tree stump gives a nice burl look and yes most native wood 
here is very hard and very dense  I guess that’s how it is when you live in a 
mostly desert country.

 

 

 

Bill

 

 

Sent: Thursday, 12 March 2020 12:34 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sweet gum wood

 

Any wood species that I’ve ever seen or worked with out of Australia is dense 
and bone dry but prized.

 

One tip I’m aware of being a sawyer is felling lumber in the winter when the 
sap content is low which helps considerably to reduce shrinkage, checking and 
splitting. The other problem here is any “white wood” like maple, ash, birch, 
beech, pine left to air dry is subject to significant insect infestation the 
only solution is kiln dry it.

 

Michael 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 9:08 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sweet gum wood

 

Holy crap that is expensive that same size bag is only $7 in our cheap bargain 
shop here also I always find a container just a little larger than the piece so 
I don’t have to use too much a foot square block cost me 3 bags to cover $21.

But at $20 a bag your money it would cost me over $90 AU way too much money

 

So it looks like it is a living in a different country thing sorry if my post 
was misleading. One thing I have found here if I cut down a long dead standing 
tree here the wood usually has very little cracks through it where the same 
wood even from the same tree lying on the ground has lots of cracking I wonder 
if drying wood vertically would help. I have heard of drying logs under water 
silly as it sounds under water for a few years then slowly dry out the log. I 
have harvested dead wood myself from under water in our murry river when the 
water is very low and they always had no cracks.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Michael Kratky
Sent: Thursday, 12 March 2020 11:23 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sweet gum wood

 

Bill,

Looks like one of those different continent, wood species, and climate things.

https://www.amazon.com/Fresh-Step-Crystals-Premium-Scented/dp/B001OQXEHK

 

8 pounds for $20.92 US per Amazon.

 

8 pounds doesn’t go far, would take 50 or more to fill a 5 gal bucket

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com

RE: Sweet gum wood

[bulkeley]

I believe we have them here as well but I have not seen them but I don’t air 
dry timber either can’t you spray the timber with some sort of insect killing 
spray as its drying to keep all the nasties away. For me I think I will keep 
doing what I’m doing seems to work for me ok

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Michael Kratky
Sent: Thursday, 12 March 2020 11:52 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sweet gum wood

 

Termites are not the only a concern, powder post beetles, carpenter ants and 
the pine bore beetle are more of a problem for air drying timber kept elevated 
above the soil. I was in the home inspection and environmental testing business 
for 20 years, wood destroying insect infestation inspections was part of that.

 

Michael

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> 
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 10:28 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Sweet gum wood

 

Certain woods here too termites being the main one or white ants as we call 
them. But other woods here are resistant to bugs

Here is a list.

as for the best time to harvest green wood I wouldn’t have a clue its usually 
when I see it and can I get it especially burls not that many around me, 
sometimes a good tree stump gives a nice burl look and yes most native wood 
here is very hard and very dense  I guess that’s how it is when you live in a 
mostly desert country.

 

 

 

Bill

 

 

Sent: Thursday, 12 March 2020 12:34 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Sweet gum wood

 

Any wood species that I’ve ever seen or worked with out of Australia is dense 
and bone dry but prized.

 

One tip I’m aware of being a sawyer is felling lumber in the winter when the 
sap content is low which helps considerably to reduce shrinkage, checking and 
splitting. The other problem here is any “white wood” like maple, ash, birch, 
beech, pine left to air dry is subject to significant insect infestation the 
only solution is kiln dry it.

 

Michael 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> 
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 9:08 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Sweet gum wood

 

Holy crap that is expensive that same size bag is only $7 in our cheap bargain 
shop here also I always find a container just a little larger than the piece so 
I don’t have to use too much a foot square block cost me 3 bags to cover $21.

But at $20 a bag your money it would cost me over $90 AU way too much money

 

So it looks like it is a living in a different country thing sorry if my post 
was misleading. One thing I have found here if I cut down a long dead standing 
tree here the wood usually has very little cracks through it where the same 
wood even from the same tree lying on the ground has lots of cracking I wonder 
if drying wood vertically would help. I have heard of drying logs under water 
silly as it sounds under water for a few years then slowly dry out the log. I 
have harvested dead wood myself from under water in our murry river when the 
water is very low and they always had no cracks.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Michael Kratky
Sent: Thursday, 12 March 2020 11:23 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Sweet gum wood

 

Bill,

Looks like one of those different continent, wood species, and climate things.

https://www.amazon.com/Fresh-Step-Crystals-Premium-Scented/dp/B001OQXEHK

 

8 pounds for $20.92 US per Amazon.

 

8 pounds doesn’t go far, would take 50 or more to fill a 5 gal bucket

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> 
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 8:08 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Sweet gum wood

 

I don’t know what to tell you Michael, I can buy a big bag for $7 here and I 
have had like 80%success drying wood this way

With very little cracking even a piece up to a foot thick I do remove the pith 
and seal the ends at the same time w

RE: Sweet gum wood

[Michael Kratky]

Termites are not the only a concern, powder post beetles, carpenter ants and 
the pine bore beetle are more of a problem for air drying timber kept elevated 
above the soil. I was in the home inspection and environmental testing business 
for 20 years, wood destroying insect infestation inspections was part of that.

 

Michael

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 10:28 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sweet gum wood

 

Certain woods here too termites being the main one or white ants as we call 
them. But other woods here are resistant to bugs

Here is a list.

as for the best time to harvest green wood I wouldn’t have a clue its usually 
when I see it and can I get it especially burls not that many around me, 
sometimes a good tree stump gives a nice burl look and yes most native wood 
here is very hard and very dense  I guess that’s how it is when you live in a 
mostly desert country.

 

 

 

Bill

 

 

Sent: Thursday, 12 March 2020 12:34 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sweet gum wood

 

Any wood species that I’ve ever seen or worked with out of Australia is dense 
and bone dry but prized.

 

One tip I’m aware of being a sawyer is felling lumber in the winter when the 
sap content is low which helps considerably to reduce shrinkage, checking and 
splitting. The other problem here is any “white wood” like maple, ash, birch, 
beech, pine left to air dry is subject to significant insect infestation the 
only solution is kiln dry it.

 

Michael 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 9:08 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sweet gum wood

 

Holy crap that is expensive that same size bag is only $7 in our cheap bargain 
shop here also I always find a container just a little larger than the piece so 
I don’t have to use too much a foot square block cost me 3 bags to cover $21.

But at $20 a bag your money it would cost me over $90 AU way too much money

 

So it looks like it is a living in a different country thing sorry if my post 
was misleading. One thing I have found here if I cut down a long dead standing 
tree here the wood usually has very little cracks through it where the same 
wood even from the same tree lying on the ground has lots of cracking I wonder 
if drying wood vertically would help. I have heard of drying logs under water 
silly as it sounds under water for a few years then slowly dry out the log. I 
have harvested dead wood myself from under water in our murry river when the 
water is very low and they always had no cracks.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Michael Kratky
Sent: Thursday, 12 March 2020 11:23 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sweet gum wood

 

Bill,

Looks like one of those different continent, wood species, and climate things.

https://www.amazon.com/Fresh-Step-Crystals-Premium-Scented/dp/B001OQXEHK

 

8 pounds for $20.92 US per Amazon.

 

8 pounds doesn’t go far, would take 50 or more to fill a 5 gal bucket

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 8:08 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sweet gum wood

 

I don’t know what to tell you Michael, I can buy a big bag for $7 here and I 
have had like 80%success drying wood this way

With very little cracking even a piece up to a foot thick I do remove the pith 
and seal the ends at the same time when cutting the green wood. It seems to 
work for me. maybe being in Australia makes a difference different woods hotter 
climate I don’t know I’m going to still dry my wood this way.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Michael Kratky
Sent: Thursday, 12 March 2020 2:46 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sweet gum wood

 

1st crystal kitty litter is not cheap (have 3 cats).

2nd it doesn’t work well.

Have tried everything in my 50 years of woodworking/woodturning to dry 
logs/branches without cracking and checking to no avail here in the northeast, 
only success is in the concrete encapsulated dry basement on drying racks where 
the temp hovers around 65°F year round and the humidity is 40-50%, I seal the 
ends in achorseal, then again do you want logs and branches in your basement? 

 

Don’t have a kiln but that’s another subject.

 

Michael 

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 11:04 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sweet gum wood

 

Thank you Bill

This is a new one

RE: Sweet gum wood

[MWF]

Very nice!Thanks.-Original Message-
From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Mar 12, 2020 12:18 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sweet gum wood

Where I am we sometimes call it red box nice wood I’m fairly sure this is jarra or red box burl cut from a tree on my property BillFrom: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of MWFSent: Thursday, 12 March 2020 2:01 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Sweet gum wood Thanks for the attachment (doc) re: termite resistance woods.I have a decent sized piece of Jarrah.  BEAUTIFUL piece!Mac-Original Message- From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au Sent: Mar 11, 2020 10:28 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Sweet gum wood Certain woods here too termites being the main one or white ants as we call them. But other woods here are resistant to bugsHere is a list.as for the best time to harvest green wood I wouldn’t have a clue its usually when I see it and can I get it especially burls not that many around me, sometimes a good tree stump gives a nice burl look and yes most native wood here is very hard and very dense  I guess that’s how it is when you live in a mostly desert country. BillSent: Thursday, 12 March 2020 12:34 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Sweet gum wood Any wood species that I’ve ever seen or worked with out of Australia is dense and bone dry but prized.One tip I’m aware of being a sawyer is felling lumber in the winter when the sap content is low which helps considerably to reduce shrinkage, checking and splitting. The other problem here is any “white wood” like maple, ash, birch, beech, pine left to air dry is subject to significant insect infestation the only solution is kiln dry it.Michael From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of bulke...@mmnet.com.auSent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 9:08 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Sweet gum wood Holy crap that is expensive that same size bag is only $7 in our cheap bargain shop here also I always find a container just a little larger than the piece so I don’t have to use too much a foot square block cost me 3 bags to cover $21.But at $20 a bag your money it would cost me over $90 AU way too much money So it looks like it is a living in a different country thing sorry if my post was misleading. One thing I have found here if I cut down a long dead standing tree here the wood usually has very little cracks through it where the same wood even from the same tree lying on the ground has lots of cracking I wonder if drying wood vertically would help. I have heard of drying logs under water silly as it sounds under water for a few years then slowly dry out the log. I have harvested dead wood myself from under water in our murry river when the water is very low and they always had no cracks. BillFrom: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Michael KratkySent: Thursday, 12 March 2020 11:23 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Sweet gum wood Bill,Looks like one of those different continent, wood species, and climate things.https://www.amazon.com/Fresh-Step-Crystals-Premium-Scented/dp/B001OQXEHK 8 pounds for $20.92 US per Amazon. 8 pounds doesn’t go far, would take 50 or more to fill a 5 gal bucketFrom: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of bulke...@mmnet.com.auSent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 8:08 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Sweet gum wood I don’t know what to tell you Michael, I can buy a big bag for $7 here and I have had like 80%success drying wood this wayWith very little cracking even a piece up to a foot thick I do remove the pith and seal the ends at the same time when cutting the green wood. It seems to work for me. maybe being in Australia makes a difference different woods hotter climate I don’t know I’m going to still dry my wood this way. BillFrom: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Michael KratkySent: Thursday, 12 March 2020 2:46 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Sweet gum wood 1st crystal kitty litter is not cheap (have 3 cats).2nd it doesn’t work well.Have tried everything in my 50 years of woodworking/woodturning to dry logs/branches without cracking and checking to no avail here in the northeast, only success is in the concrete encapsulated dry basement on drying racks where the temp hovers around 65°F year round and the humidity is 40-50%, I seal the ends in achorseal, then again do you want logs and branches in your basement?  Don’t have a kiln but that’s another subject. MichaelFrom: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 11:04 AMTo: legacy-orna

RE: Sweet gum wood

[MWF]

Thanks for the attachment (doc) re: termite resistance woods.I have a decent sized piece of Jarrah.  BEAUTIFUL piece!Mac-Original Message-
From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Mar 11, 2020 10:28 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sweet gum wood

Certain woods here too termites being the main one or white ants as we call them. But other woods here are resistant to bugsHere is a list. as for the best time to harvest green wood I wouldn’t have a clue its usually when I see it and can I get it especially burls not that many around me, sometimes a good tree stump gives a nice burl look and yes most native wood here is very hard and very dense  I guess that’s how it is when you live in a mostly desert country. BillSent: Thursday, 12 March 2020 12:34 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Sweet gum wood Any wood species that I’ve ever seen or worked with out of Australia is dense and bone dry but prized.One tip I’m aware of being a sawyer is felling lumber in the winter when the sap content is low which helps considerably to reduce shrinkage, checking and splitting. The other problem here is any “white wood” like maple, ash, birch, beech, pine left to air dry is subject to significant insect infestation the only solution is kiln dry it.Michael From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of bulke...@mmnet.com.auSent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 9:08 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Sweet gum wood Holy crap that is expensive that same size bag is only $7 in our cheap bargain shop here also I always find a container just a little larger than the piece so I don’t have to use too much a foot square block cost me 3 bags to cover $21.But at $20 a bag your money it would cost me over $90 AU way too much money So it looks like it is a living in a different country thing sorry if my post was misleading. One thing I have found here if I cut down a long dead standing tree here the wood usually has very little cracks through it where the same wood even from the same tree lying on the ground has lots of cracking I wonder if drying wood vertically would help. I have heard of drying logs under water silly as it sounds under water for a few years then slowly dry out the log. I have harvested dead wood myself from under water in our murry river when the water is very low and they always had no cracks. BillFrom: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Michael KratkySent: Thursday, 12 March 2020 11:23 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Sweet gum wood Bill,Looks like one of those different continent, wood species, and climate things.https://www.amazon.com/Fresh-Step-Crystals-Premium-Scented/dp/B001OQXEHK 8 pounds for $20.92 US per Amazon. 8 pounds doesn’t go far, would take 50 or more to fill a 5 gal bucketFrom: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of bulke...@mmnet.com.auSent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 8:08 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Sweet gum wood I don’t know what to tell you Michael, I can buy a big bag for $7 here and I have had like 80%success drying wood this wayWith very little cracking even a piece up to a foot thick I do remove the pith and seal the ends at the same time when cutting the green wood. It seems to work for me. maybe being in Australia makes a difference different woods hotter climate I don’t know I’m going to still dry my wood this way. BillFrom: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Michael KratkySent: Thursday, 12 March 2020 2:46 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Sweet gum wood 1st crystal kitty litter is not cheap (have 3 cats).2nd it doesn’t work well.Have tried everything in my 50 years of woodworking/woodturning to dry logs/branches without cracking and checking to no avail here in the northeast, only success is in the concrete encapsulated dry basement on drying racks where the temp hovers around 65°F year round and the humidity is 40-50%, I seal the ends in achorseal, then again do you want logs and branches in your basement?  Don’t have a kiln but that’s another subject. MichaelFrom: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 11:04 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Sweet gum wood Thank you BillThis is a new one on me.   The funny thing here is, I work with medical air's, Most dryers use the same process's to remove moisture from the air,  I never thought about trying it for wood. I am glad to hear you have had good success with this, Perhaps I will try it as well? Have a good day. C.A.G.On Wednesday, March 11, 2020, 06:03:04 AM EDT, <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:  Curt, I assume your ta

RE: Sweet gum wood

[bulkeley]

 its safe I dry in a sealed container or in winter the air uses up the 
crystals too quick. I don’t know how true it is but I’m told if you leave the 
litter outside in a heap in the summer here where we go many weeks of hot 
weather without rain you can reuse the litter again that might be a problem 
with cats but I cant be bothered trying it I don’t dry wood all that often.

But the prices of your crystals over there I would dry and reuse every bit of 
it.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of MWF
Sent: Thursday, 12 March 2020 1:22 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sweet gum wood

 

Bill,

Thanks.

I learn something new every day.  

I didn't realize there was "crystal cat litter".  That will help explain the 
price differences.

At those prices, with warmer weather coming here, I'd try "baking" it in the 
sun after using - in attempt to "re-dry" it.  

Just don't let your neighborhood cats see it spread out in a pan in your 
driveway! 

Mac

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-Original Message- 
From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  
Sent: Mar 11, 2020 10:01 PM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
Subject: RE: Sweet gum wood 




It’s the cat crystal litter we are talking about mac its made of silica 
crystals I don’t know what the cheaper stuff is made from looks like a sort of 
clay to look at were the crystals look like beads of glass .





Bill


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From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of MWF
Sent: Thursday, 12 March 2020 12:40 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Sweet gum wood

 

Attached is result of a quick search I did for bulk cat litter.  

Looks to be a LOT cheaper than what you two are finding. (Less than $0.55/lb. - 
USD)

Clumping vs non-clumping?  NO cats in our house - so I don't know.

Another idea:  Contact local veterinarians - ask if you can buy bulk thru them.

Mac


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-Original Message- 
From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  
Sent: Mar 11, 2020 9:08 PM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
Subject: RE: Sweet gum wood 




Holy crap that is expensive that same size bag is only $7 in our cheap bargain 
shop here also I always find a container just a little larger than the piece so 
I don’t have to use too much a foot square block cost me 3 bags to cover $21.

But at $20 a bag your money it would cost me over $90 AU way too much money





So it looks like it is a living in a different country thing sorry if my post 
was misleading. One thing I have found here if I cut down a long dead standing 
tree here the wood usually has very little cracks through it where the same 
wood even from the same tree lying on the ground has lots of cracking I wonder 
if drying wood vertically would help. I have heard of drying logs under water 
silly as it sounds under water for a few years then slowly dry out the log. I 
have harvested dead wood myself from under water in our murry river when the 
water is very low and they always had no cracks.

 

Bill


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From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Michael Kratky
Sent: Thursday, 12 March 2020 11:23 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Sweet gum wood

 

Bill,

Looks like one of those different continent, wood species, and climate things.

https://www.amazon.com/Fresh-Step-Crystals-Premium-Scented/dp/B001OQXEHK

 

8 pounds for $20.92 US per Amazon.

 

8 pounds doesn’t go far, would take 50 or more to fill a 5 gal bucket


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From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> 
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 8:08 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Sweet gum wood

 

I don’t know what to tell you Michael, I can buy a big bag for $7 here and I 
have had like 80%success drying wood this way

With very little cracking even a piece up to a foot thick I do remove the pith 
and seal the ends at the same time when cutting the green wood. It seems to 
work for me. maybe being in Australia makes a difference different woods hotter 
climate I don’t know I’m going to still dry my wood this way.

 

Bi

RE: Sweet gum wood

[MWF]

Bill,Thanks.I learn something new every day.  I didn't realize there was "crystal cat litter".  That will help explain the price differences.At those prices, with warmer weather coming here, I'd try "baking" it in the sun after using - in attempt to "re-dry" it.  Just don't let your neighborhood cats see it spread out in a pan in your driveway! Mac-Original Message-
From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Mar 11, 2020 10:01 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sweet gum wood

It’s the cat crystal litter we are talking about mac its made of silica crystals I don’t know what the cheaper stuff is made from looks like a sort of clay to look at were the crystals look like beads of glass .BillFrom: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of MWFSent: Thursday, 12 March 2020 12:40 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Sweet gum wood Attached is result of a quick search I did for bulk cat litter.  Looks to be a LOT cheaper than what you two are finding. (Less than $0.55/lb. - USD)Clumping vs non-clumping?  NO cats in our house - so I don't know.Another idea:  Contact local veterinarians - ask if you can buy bulk thru them.Mac-Original Message- From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au Sent: Mar 11, 2020 9:08 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Sweet gum wood Holy crap that is expensive that same size bag is only $7 in our cheap bargain shop here also I always find a container just a little larger than the piece so I don’t have to use too much a foot square block cost me 3 bags to cover $21.But at $20 a bag your money it would cost me over $90 AU way too much moneySo it looks like it is a living in a different country thing sorry if my post was misleading. One thing I have found here if I cut down a long dead standing tree here the wood usually has very little cracks through it where the same wood even from the same tree lying on the ground has lots of cracking I wonder if drying wood vertically would help. I have heard of drying logs under water silly as it sounds under water for a few years then slowly dry out the log. I have harvested dead wood myself from under water in our murry river when the water is very low and they always had no cracks. BillFrom: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Michael KratkySent: Thursday, 12 March 2020 11:23 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Sweet gum wood Bill,Looks like one of those different continent, wood species, and climate things.https://www.amazon.com/Fresh-Step-Crystals-Premium-Scented/dp/B001OQXEHK 8 pounds for $20.92 US per Amazon. 8 pounds doesn’t go far, would take 50 or more to fill a 5 gal bucketFrom: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of bulke...@mmnet.com.auSent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 8:08 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Sweet gum wood I don’t know what to tell you Michael, I can buy a big bag for $7 here and I have had like 80%success drying wood this wayWith very little cracking even a piece up to a foot thick I do remove the pith and seal the ends at the same time when cutting the green wood. It seems to work for me. maybe being in Australia makes a difference different woods hotter climate I don’t know I’m going to still dry my wood this way. BillFrom: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Michael KratkySent: Thursday, 12 March 2020 2:46 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Sweet gum wood 1st crystal kitty litter is not cheap (have 3 cats).2nd it doesn’t work well.Have tried everything in my 50 years of woodworking/woodturning to dry logs/branches without cracking and checking to no avail here in the northeast, only success is in the concrete encapsulated dry basement on drying racks where the temp hovers around 65°F year round and the humidity is 40-50%, I seal the ends in achorseal, then again do you want logs and branches in your basement?  Don’t have a kiln but that’s another subject. Michael From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 11:04 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Sweet gum wood Thank you BillThis is a new one on me.   The funny thing here is, I work with medical air's, Most dryers use the same process's to remove moisture from the air,  I never thought about trying it for wood. I am glad to hear you have had good success with this, Perhaps I will try it as well? Have a good day. C.A.G. On Wednesday, March 11, 2020, 06:03:04 AM EDT, <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:   Curt, I assume your talking about drying wood in kitty litter crystals I been trying this off and on with quite good success I have never posted anything on it as it was not legacyBut here i

RE: Sweet gum wood

[bulkeley]

It’s the cat crystal litter we are talking about mac its made of silica 
crystals I don’t know what the cheaper stuff is made from looks like a sort of 
clay to look at were the crystals look like beads of glass .

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of MWF
Sent: Thursday, 12 March 2020 12:40 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sweet gum wood

 

Attached is result of a quick search I did for bulk cat litter.  

Looks to be a LOT cheaper than what you two are finding. (Less than $0.55/lb. - 
USD)

Clumping vs non-clumping?  NO cats in our house - so I don't know.

Another idea:  Contact local veterinarians - ask if you can buy bulk thru them.

Mac

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  _  

-Original Message- 
From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  
Sent: Mar 11, 2020 9:08 PM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
Subject: RE: Sweet gum wood 




Holy crap that is expensive that same size bag is only $7 in our cheap bargain 
shop here also I always find a container just a little larger than the piece so 
I don’t have to use too much a foot square block cost me 3 bags to cover $21.

But at $20 a bag your money it would cost me over $90 AU way too much money

 

So it looks like it is a living in a different country thing sorry if my post 
was misleading. One thing I have found here if I cut down a long dead standing 
tree here the wood usually has very little cracks through it where the same 
wood even from the same tree lying on the ground has lots of cracking I wonder 
if drying wood vertically would help. I have heard of drying logs under water 
silly as it sounds under water for a few years then slowly dry out the log. I 
have harvested dead wood myself from under water in our murry river when the 
water is very low and they always had no cracks.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Michael Kratky
Sent: Thursday, 12 March 2020 11:23 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Sweet gum wood

 

Bill,

Looks like one of those different continent, wood species, and climate things.

https://www.amazon.com/Fresh-Step-Crystals-Premium-Scented/dp/B001OQXEHK

 

8 pounds for $20.92 US per Amazon.

 

8 pounds doesn’t go far, would take 50 or more to fill a 5 gal bucket

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> 
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 8:08 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Sweet gum wood

 

I don’t know what to tell you Michael, I can buy a big bag for $7 here and I 
have had like 80%success drying wood this way

With very little cracking even a piece up to a foot thick I do remove the pith 
and seal the ends at the same time when cutting the green wood. It seems to 
work for me. maybe being in Australia makes a difference different woods hotter 
climate I don’t know I’m going to still dry my wood this way.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Michael Kratky
Sent: Thursday, 12 March 2020 2:46 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Sweet gum wood

 

1st crystal kitty litter is not cheap (have 3 cats).

2nd it doesn’t work well.

Have tried everything in my 50 years of woodworking/woodturning to dry 
logs/branches without cracking and checking to no avail here in the northeast, 
only success is in the concrete encapsulated dry basement on drying racks where 
the temp hovers around 65°F year round and the humidity is 40-50%, I seal the 
ends in achorseal, then again do you want logs and branches in your basement? 

 

Don’t have a kiln but that’s another subject.

 

Michael 

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 11:04 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Sweet gum wood

 

Thank you Bill

This is a new one on me.   

The funny thing here is, I work with medical air's, Most dryers use the same 
process's to remove moisture from the air,  I never thought about trying it for 
wood.

 

I am glad to hear you have had good success with this, Perhaps I will try it as 
well?

 

Have a good day.

 

C.A.G. 

 

On Wednesday, March 11, 2020, 06:03:04 AM EDT,  wrote: 

 

 

RE: Sweet gum wood

[Michael Kratky]

Any wood species that I’ve ever seen or worked with out of Australia is dense 
and bone dry but prized.

 

One tip I’m aware of being a sawyer is felling lumber in the winter when the 
sap content is low which helps considerably to reduce shrinkage, checking and 
splitting. The other problem here is any “white wood” like maple, ash, birch, 
beech, pine left to air dry is subject to significant insect infestation the 
only solution is kiln dry it.

 

Michael 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 9:08 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sweet gum wood

 

Holy crap that is expensive that same size bag is only $7 in our cheap bargain 
shop here also I always find a container just a little larger than the piece so 
I don’t have to use too much a foot square block cost me 3 bags to cover $21.

But at $20 a bag your money it would cost me over $90 AU way too much money

 

So it looks like it is a living in a different country thing sorry if my post 
was misleading. One thing I have found here if I cut down a long dead standing 
tree here the wood usually has very little cracks through it where the same 
wood even from the same tree lying on the ground has lots of cracking I wonder 
if drying wood vertically would help. I have heard of drying logs under water 
silly as it sounds under water for a few years then slowly dry out the log. I 
have harvested dead wood myself from under water in our murry river when the 
water is very low and they always had no cracks.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Michael Kratky
Sent: Thursday, 12 March 2020 11:23 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sweet gum wood

 

Bill,

Looks like one of those different continent, wood species, and climate things.

https://www.amazon.com/Fresh-Step-Crystals-Premium-Scented/dp/B001OQXEHK

 

8 pounds for $20.92 US per Amazon.

 

8 pounds doesn’t go far, would take 50 or more to fill a 5 gal bucket

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 8:08 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sweet gum wood

 

I don’t know what to tell you Michael, I can buy a big bag for $7 here and I 
have had like 80%success drying wood this way

With very little cracking even a piece up to a foot thick I do remove the pith 
and seal the ends at the same time when cutting the green wood. It seems to 
work for me. maybe being in Australia makes a difference different woods hotter 
climate I don’t know I’m going to still dry my wood this way.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Michael Kratky
Sent: Thursday, 12 March 2020 2:46 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sweet gum wood

 

1st crystal kitty litter is not cheap (have 3 cats).

2nd it doesn’t work well.

Have tried everything in my 50 years of woodworking/woodturning to dry 
logs/branches without cracking and checking to no avail here in the northeast, 
only success is in the concrete encapsulated dry basement on drying racks where 
the temp hovers around 65°F year round and the humidity is 40-50%, I seal the 
ends in achorseal, then again do you want logs and branches in your basement? 

 

Don’t have a kiln but that’s another subject.

 

Michael 

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 11:04 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sweet gum wood

 

Thank you Bill

This is a new one on me.   

The funny thing here is, I work with medical air's, Most dryers use the same 
process's to remove moisture from the air,  I never thought about trying it for 
wood.

 

I am glad to hear you have had good success with this, Perhaps I will try it as 
well?

 

Have a good day.

 

C.A.G. 

 

On Wednesday, March 11, 2020, 06:03:04 AM EDT,  wrote: 

 

 

Curt, 

I assume your talking about drying wood in kitty litter crystals I been trying 
this off and on with quite good success 

I have never posted anything on it as it was not legacy

But here is a video or 2 about it.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4=Q5-_dGaMuCE=emb_logo> 
=Q5-_dGaMuCE=emb_logo

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMrsKJbyiic

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpM_3uTNm5Y

 

kitty litter crystals is made of silica gel I just leave covered in the litter 
in a sealed container usually for a couple of months depending on wood 
thickness changing the crystals every few weeks or when the few coloured 
crystals change colour if the litter has the few coloured crystals in it mine 
does.

and keep weighing the wood it till it stops g

RE: Sweet gum wood

[bulkeley]

Holy crap that is expensive that same size bag is only $7 in our cheap bargain 
shop here also I always find a container just a little larger than the piece so 
I don’t have to use too much a foot square block cost me 3 bags to cover $21.

But at $20 a bag your money it would cost me over $90 AU way too much money

 

So it looks like it is a living in a different country thing sorry if my post 
was misleading. One thing I have found here if I cut down a long dead standing 
tree here the wood usually has very little cracks through it where the same 
wood even from the same tree lying on the ground has lots of cracking I wonder 
if drying wood vertically would help. I have heard of drying logs under water 
silly as it sounds under water for a few years then slowly dry out the log. I 
have harvested dead wood myself from under water in our murry river when the 
water is very low and they always had no cracks.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Michael Kratky
Sent: Thursday, 12 March 2020 11:23 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sweet gum wood

 

Bill,

Looks like one of those different continent, wood species, and climate things.

https://www.amazon.com/Fresh-Step-Crystals-Premium-Scented/dp/B001OQXEHK

 

8 pounds for $20.92 US per Amazon.

 

8 pounds doesn’t go far, would take 50 or more to fill a 5 gal bucket

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> 
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 8:08 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Sweet gum wood

 

I don’t know what to tell you Michael, I can buy a big bag for $7 here and I 
have had like 80%success drying wood this way

With very little cracking even a piece up to a foot thick I do remove the pith 
and seal the ends at the same time when cutting the green wood. It seems to 
work for me. maybe being in Australia makes a difference different woods hotter 
climate I don’t know I’m going to still dry my wood this way.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Michael Kratky
Sent: Thursday, 12 March 2020 2:46 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Sweet gum wood

 

1st crystal kitty litter is not cheap (have 3 cats).

2nd it doesn’t work well.

Have tried everything in my 50 years of woodworking/woodturning to dry 
logs/branches without cracking and checking to no avail here in the northeast, 
only success is in the concrete encapsulated dry basement on drying racks where 
the temp hovers around 65°F year round and the humidity is 40-50%, I seal the 
ends in achorseal, then again do you want logs and branches in your basement? 

 

Don’t have a kiln but that’s another subject.

 

Michael 

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 11:04 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Sweet gum wood

 

Thank you Bill

This is a new one on me.   

The funny thing here is, I work with medical air's, Most dryers use the same 
process's to remove moisture from the air,  I never thought about trying it for 
wood.

 

I am glad to hear you have had good success with this, Perhaps I will try it as 
well?

 

Have a good day.

 

C.A.G. 

 

On Wednesday, March 11, 2020, 06:03:04 AM EDT, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

Curt, 

I assume your talking about drying wood in kitty litter crystals I been trying 
this off and on with quite good success 

I have never posted anything on it as it was not legacy

But here is a video or 2 about it.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4=Q5-_dGaMuCE=emb_logo> 
=Q5-_dGaMuCE=emb_logo

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMrsKJbyiic

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpM_3uTNm5Y

 

kitty litter crystals is made of silica gel I just leave covered in the litter 
in a sealed container usually for a couple of months depending on wood 
thickness changing the crystals every few weeks or when the few coloured 
crystals change colour if the litter has the few coloured crystals in it mine 
does.

and keep weighing the wood it till it stops getting lighter. I don’t bother 
recharging or drying out the crystals kitty litter is cheap I just throw it 
out. And this method does seem to help stop cracking by drying the wood evenly 
all over provided it is totally submerged in the crystals. There is a video out 
there somewhere of carl Jacobson

RE: Sweet gum wood

[Michael Kratky]

Bill,

Looks like one of those different continent, wood species, and climate things.

https://www.amazon.com/Fresh-Step-Crystals-Premium-Scented/dp/B001OQXEHK

 

8 pounds for $20.92 US per Amazon.

 

8 pounds doesn’t go far, would take 50 or more to fill a 5 gal bucket

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 8:08 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sweet gum wood

 

I don’t know what to tell you Michael, I can buy a big bag for $7 here and I 
have had like 80%success drying wood this way

With very little cracking even a piece up to a foot thick I do remove the pith 
and seal the ends at the same time when cutting the green wood. It seems to 
work for me. maybe being in Australia makes a difference different woods hotter 
climate I don’t know I’m going to still dry my wood this way.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Michael Kratky
Sent: Thursday, 12 March 2020 2:46 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sweet gum wood

 

1st crystal kitty litter is not cheap (have 3 cats).

2nd it doesn’t work well.

Have tried everything in my 50 years of woodworking/woodturning to dry 
logs/branches without cracking and checking to no avail here in the northeast, 
only success is in the concrete encapsulated dry basement on drying racks where 
the temp hovers around 65°F year round and the humidity is 40-50%, I seal the 
ends in achorseal, then again do you want logs and branches in your basement? 

 

Don’t have a kiln but that’s another subject.

 

Michael 

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 11:04 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sweet gum wood

 

Thank you Bill

This is a new one on me.   

The funny thing here is, I work with medical air's, Most dryers use the same 
process's to remove moisture from the air,  I never thought about trying it for 
wood.

 

I am glad to hear you have had good success with this, Perhaps I will try it as 
well?

 

Have a good day.

 

C.A.G. 

 

On Wednesday, March 11, 2020, 06:03:04 AM EDT,  wrote: 

 

 

Curt, 

I assume your talking about drying wood in kitty litter crystals I been trying 
this off and on with quite good success 

I have never posted anything on it as it was not legacy

But here is a video or 2 about it.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4=Q5-_dGaMuCE=emb_logo> 
=Q5-_dGaMuCE=emb_logo

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMrsKJbyiic

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpM_3uTNm5Y

 

kitty litter crystals is made of silica gel I just leave covered in the litter 
in a sealed container usually for a couple of months depending on wood 
thickness changing the crystals every few weeks or when the few coloured 
crystals change colour if the litter has the few coloured crystals in it mine 
does.

and keep weighing the wood it till it stops getting lighter. I don’t bother 
recharging or drying out the crystals kitty litter is cheap I just throw it 
out. And this method does seem to help stop cracking by drying the wood evenly 
all over provided it is totally submerged in the crystals. There is a video out 
there somewhere of carl Jacobson doing the same thing in rice.

 

Bill

 

 

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Wednesday, 11 March 2020 4:06 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sweet gum wood

 

Bill

I must have missed something. Do you show any pictures?

I very much like the topic. And have done a lot of my own processing of wood in 
the past.

I would like to see and learn as much as I can on this topic.

 

thank you.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Wednesday, March 11, 2020, 12:58:50 AM EDT,  wrote: 

 

 

Seal the ends as soon as possible bark later and wood usually dry’s 1 inch per 
year.

Bury them in kitty litter crystals or rice will speed up the process. just 
weigh it every couple of weeks till it stops getting lighter

I did some tapered legs once I milled the full length square  then just lowerd 
one end of the legacy and milled 3/4s of it round and cut a spiral  nothing 
very fancy. 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of 4 Jim Carpenter
Sent: Wednesday, 11 March 2020 12:37 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Sweet gum wood

 

Major tree trim - 4 straight arrow 48" x4" limbs ?

 

Dry time to work ?

 

Bark now or after ?

 

Anyone have experience working it for tapered table legs ? 

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RE: Sweet gum wood

[bulkeley]

I don’t know what to tell you Michael, I can buy a big bag for $7 here and I 
have had like 80%success drying wood this way

With very little cracking even a piece up to a foot thick I do remove the pith 
and seal the ends at the same time when cutting the green wood. It seems to 
work for me. maybe being in Australia makes a difference different woods hotter 
climate I don’t know I’m going to still dry my wood this way.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Michael Kratky
Sent: Thursday, 12 March 2020 2:46 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sweet gum wood

 

1st crystal kitty litter is not cheap (have 3 cats).

2nd it doesn’t work well.

Have tried everything in my 50 years of woodworking/woodturning to dry 
logs/branches without cracking and checking to no avail here in the northeast, 
only success is in the concrete encapsulated dry basement on drying racks where 
the temp hovers around 65°F year round and the humidity is 40-50%, I seal the 
ends in achorseal, then again do you want logs and branches in your basement? 

 

Don’t have a kiln but that’s another subject.

 

Michael 

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 11:04 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Sweet gum wood

 

Thank you Bill

This is a new one on me.   

The funny thing here is, I work with medical air's, Most dryers use the same 
process's to remove moisture from the air,  I never thought about trying it for 
wood.

 

I am glad to hear you have had good success with this, Perhaps I will try it as 
well?

 

Have a good day.

 

C.A.G. 

 

On Wednesday, March 11, 2020, 06:03:04 AM EDT, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

Curt, 

I assume your talking about drying wood in kitty litter crystals I been trying 
this off and on with quite good success 

I have never posted anything on it as it was not legacy

But here is a video or 2 about it.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4=Q5-_dGaMuCE=emb_logo> 
=Q5-_dGaMuCE=emb_logo

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMrsKJbyiic

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpM_3uTNm5Y

 

kitty litter crystals is made of silica gel I just leave covered in the litter 
in a sealed container usually for a couple of months depending on wood 
thickness changing the crystals every few weeks or when the few coloured 
crystals change colour if the litter has the few coloured crystals in it mine 
does.

and keep weighing the wood it till it stops getting lighter. I don’t bother 
recharging or drying out the crystals kitty litter is cheap I just throw it 
out. And this method does seem to help stop cracking by drying the wood evenly 
all over provided it is totally submerged in the crystals. There is a video out 
there somewhere of carl Jacobson doing the same thing in rice.

 

Bill

 

 

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Wednesday, 11 March 2020 4:06 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sweet gum wood

 

Bill

I must have missed something. Do you show any pictures?

I very much like the topic. And have done a lot of my own processing of wood in 
the past.

I would like to see and learn as much as I can on this topic.

 

thank you.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Wednesday, March 11, 2020, 12:58:50 AM EDT,  wrote: 

 

 

Seal the ends as soon as possible bark later and wood usually dry’s 1 inch per 
year.

Bury them in kitty litter crystals or rice will speed up the process. just 
weigh it every couple of weeks till it stops getting lighter

I did some tapered legs once I milled the full length square  then just lowerd 
one end of the legacy and milled 3/4s of it round and cut a spiral  nothing 
very fancy. 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 4 Jim Carpenter
Sent: Wednesday, 11 March 2020 12:37 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Sweet gum wood

 

Major tree trim - 4 straight arrow 48" x4" limbs ?

 

Dry time to work ?

 

Bark now or after ?

 

Anyone have experience working it for tapered table legs ? 

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RE: Sweet gum wood

[Michael Kratky]

1st crystal kitty litter is not cheap (have 3 cats).

2nd it doesn’t work well.

Have tried everything in my 50 years of woodworking/woodturning to dry 
logs/branches without cracking and checking to no avail here in the northeast, 
only success is in the concrete encapsulated dry basement on drying racks where 
the temp hovers around 65°F year round and the humidity is 40-50%, I seal the 
ends in achorseal, then again do you want logs and branches in your basement? 

 

Don’t have a kiln but that’s another subject.

 

Michael 

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 11:04 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sweet gum wood

 

Thank you Bill

This is a new one on me.   

The funny thing here is, I work with medical air's, Most dryers use the same 
process's to remove moisture from the air,  I never thought about trying it for 
wood.

 

I am glad to hear you have had good success with this, Perhaps I will try it as 
well?

 

Have a good day.

 

C.A.G. 

 

On Wednesday, March 11, 2020, 06:03:04 AM EDT,  wrote: 

 

 

Curt, 

I assume your talking about drying wood in kitty litter crystals I been trying 
this off and on with quite good success 

I have never posted anything on it as it was not legacy

But here is a video or 2 about it.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4=Q5-_dGaMuCE=emb_logo> 
=Q5-_dGaMuCE=emb_logo

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMrsKJbyiic

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpM_3uTNm5Y

 

kitty litter crystals is made of silica gel I just leave covered in the litter 
in a sealed container usually for a couple of months depending on wood 
thickness changing the crystals every few weeks or when the few coloured 
crystals change colour if the litter has the few coloured crystals in it mine 
does.

and keep weighing the wood it till it stops getting lighter. I don’t bother 
recharging or drying out the crystals kitty litter is cheap I just throw it 
out. And this method does seem to help stop cracking by drying the wood evenly 
all over provided it is totally submerged in the crystals. There is a video out 
there somewhere of carl Jacobson doing the same thing in rice.

 

Bill

 

 

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Wednesday, 11 March 2020 4:06 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sweet gum wood

 

Bill

I must have missed something. Do you show any pictures?

I very much like the topic. And have done a lot of my own processing of wood in 
the past.

I would like to see and learn as much as I can on this topic.

 

thank you.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Wednesday, March 11, 2020, 12:58:50 AM EDT,  wrote: 

 

 

Seal the ends as soon as possible bark later and wood usually dry’s 1 inch per 
year.

Bury them in kitty litter crystals or rice will speed up the process. just 
weigh it every couple of weeks till it stops getting lighter

I did some tapered legs once I milled the full length square  then just lowerd 
one end of the legacy and milled 3/4s of it round and cut a spiral  nothing 
very fancy. 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of 4 Jim Carpenter
Sent: Wednesday, 11 March 2020 12:37 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Sweet gum wood

 

Major tree trim - 4 straight arrow 48" x4" limbs ?

 

Dry time to work ?

 

Bark now or after ?

 

Anyone have experience working it for tapered table legs ? 

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Re: Sweet gum wood

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

 Thank you BillThis is a new one on me.   The funny thing here is, I work with 
medical air's, Most dryers use the same process's to remove moisture from the 
air,  I never thought about trying it for wood.
I am glad to hear you have had good success with this, Perhaps I will try it as 
well?
Have a good day.
C.A.G. 
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Curt, 

I assume your talking about drying wood in kitty litter crystals I been trying 
this off and on with quite good success 

I have never posted anything on it as it was not legacy

But here is a video or 2 about it.

  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4=Q5-_dGaMuCE=emb_logo

  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMrsKJbyiic

  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpM_3uTNm5Y

  

kitty litter crystals is made of silica gel I just leave covered in the litter 
in a sealed container usually for a couple of months depending on wood 
thickness changing the crystals every few weeks or when the few coloured 
crystals change colour if the litter has the few coloured crystals in it mine 
does.

and keep weighing the wood it till it stops getting lighter. I don’t bother 
recharging or drying out the crystals kitty litter is cheap I just throw it 
out. And this method does seem to help stop cracking by drying the wood evenly 
all over provided it is totally submerged in the crystals. There is a video out 
there somewhere of carl Jacobson doing the same thing in rice.

  

Bill

  

  

  

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Wednesday, 11 March 2020 4:06 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sweet gum wood

  

Bill

I must have missed something. Do you show any pictures?

I very much like the topic. And have done a lot of my own processing of wood in 
the past.

I would like to see and learn as much as I can on this topic.

  

thank you.

  

C.A.G.

  

On Wednesday, March 11, 2020, 12:58:50 AM EDT,  wrote: 

  

  

Seal the ends as soon as possible bark later and wood usually dry’s 1 inch per 
year.

Bury them in kitty litter crystals or rice will speed up the process. just 
weigh it every couple of weeks till it stops getting lighter

I did some tapered legs once I milled the full length square  then just lowerd 
one end of the legacy and milled 3/4s of it round and cut a spiral  nothing 
very fancy. 

 

Bill

 

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Subject: Sweet gum wood

 

Major tree trim - 4 straight arrow 48" x4" limbs ?

 

Dry time to work ?

 

Bark now or after ?

 

Anyone have experience working it for tapered table legs ? 

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RE: Sweet gum wood

[bulkeley]

Curt, 

I assume your talking about drying wood in kitty litter crystals I been trying 
this off and on with quite good success 

I have never posted anything on it as it was not legacy

But here is a video or 2 about it.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4 
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=Q5-_dGaMuCE=emb_logo

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMrsKJbyiic

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpM_3uTNm5Y

 

kitty litter crystals is made of silica gel I just leave covered in the litter 
in a sealed container usually for a couple of months depending on wood 
thickness changing the crystals every few weeks or when the few coloured 
crystals change colour if the litter has the few coloured crystals in it mine 
does.

and keep weighing the wood it till it stops getting lighter. I don’t bother 
recharging or drying out the crystals kitty litter is cheap I just throw it 
out. And this method does seem to help stop cracking by drying the wood evenly 
all over provided it is totally submerged in the crystals. There is a video out 
there somewhere of carl Jacobson doing the same thing in rice.

 

Bill

 

 

 

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Bill

I must have missed something. Do you show any pictures?

I very much like the topic. And have done a lot of my own processing of wood in 
the past.

I would like to see and learn as much as I can on this topic.

 

thank you.

 

C.A.G.

 

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Seal the ends as soon as possible bark later and wood usually dry’s 1 inch per 
year.

Bury them in kitty litter crystals or rice will speed up the process. just 
weigh it every couple of weeks till it stops getting lighter

I did some tapered legs once I milled the full length square  then just lowerd 
one end of the legacy and milled 3/4s of it round and cut a spiral  nothing 
very fancy. 

 

Bill

 

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Major tree trim - 4 straight arrow 48" x4" limbs ?

 

Dry time to work ?

 

Bark now or after ?

 

Anyone have experience working it for tapered table legs ? 

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Re: Sweet gum wood

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 BillI must have missed something. Do you show any pictures?I very much like 
the topic. And have done a lot of my own processing of wood in the past.I would 
like to see and learn as much as I can on this topic.
thank you.
C.A.G.
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Seal the ends as soon as possible bark later and wood usually dry’s 1 inch per 
year.

Bury them in kitty litter crystals or rice will speed up the process. just 
weigh it every couple of weeks till it stops getting lighter

I did some tapered legs once I milled the full length square  then just lowerd 
one end of the legacy and milled 3/4s of it round and cut a spiral  nothing 
very fancy. 

  

Bill

  

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 On Behalf Of 4 Jim Carpenter
Sent: Wednesday, 11 March 2020 12:37 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Sweet gum wood

  

Major tree trim - 4 straight arrow 48" x4" limbs ?

  

Dry time to work ?

  

Bark now or after ?

  

Anyone have experience working it for tapered table legs ? 

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RE: Sweet gum wood

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Seal the ends as soon as possible bark later and wood usually dry’s 1 inch per 
year.

Bury them in kitty litter crystals or rice will speed up the process. just 
weigh it every couple of weeks till it stops getting lighter

I did some tapered legs once I milled the full length square  then just lowerd 
one end of the legacy and milled 3/4s of it round and cut a spiral  nothing 
very fancy. 

 

Bill

 

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Major tree trim - 4 straight arrow 48" x4" limbs ?

 

Dry time to work ?

 

Bark now or after ?

 

Anyone have experience working it for tapered table legs ? 

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Major tree trim - 4 straight arrow 48" x4" limbs ?

Dry time to work ?

Bark now or after ?

Anyone have experience working it for tapered table legs ?

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