Re: [LegacyUG] ? Living Relatives - stolen identity

[GSS]

My personal view as to why I will not ALLOW information about living 
people (or married people that have died young if their spouse is 
still alive) to be published in any form is because of stolen 
identities. I have a good friend whose identity was stolen (not from 
the internet but unfortunately from personnel work files that were not 
kept properly - not by my friend but someone else in the company) and 
I have seen the time, energy and sheer frustration that she and her 
family are going through (and are still going through even though this 
started more than four years ago). I would hate to think that any 
information that I had gathered for the pleasure of my 'hobby' and 
which I had given to someone else or was used from anything that I had 
done, would ever put anyone else in the position that my friend is now 
in. I know that if I can find out the information then the 'crooks' 
can do so as well, but it is like when I leave my house, I will lock 
the door and bolt the windows - I know that a thief can still get in 
if they want to but by discouraging them with my locks and bolts may 
mean they will not pick on my house but go somewhere else where it is 
easier, quicker, etc to get what they want.


Gillian


- Original Message - 
From: "Sandra Tyler Duncan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 12:55 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] ? Living Relatives


Yes Phil but I personally believe that LEGACY  is the best genealogy 
program
around for removing data on living persons, my first time to post my 
data
gave me a real shock when I saw my children and grandchildren's 
names and

dates. With LEGACY  that no longer happens [[Whew]]
Sandra Tyler Duncan

- Original Message -
From: "Phil Hawkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 4:10 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] ? Living Relatives



Slightly OT but is being discuuused regulary regarding Legacy files

I am at loss to understand what all the secrecy is about regarding
living relatives!
I have no problem with the concept of removing data that is 
personal
(Addresses, phone numbers etc), or data that could be embarrassing 
(such

as "Mary Smith has an illigitimate son to Fred Blaggs". "Jack Smith
served 6 months for car theft" etc)
But that Mary Smith is the daughter of John and Jane Smith in
Dullesville is a fact known to everyone in the family and everyone 
in
the town at least. Why the need for secrecy? If the personal 
details of

Mary, John and Jane who are living are removed, then why would they
scream if 2nd cousin Peter puts the fact thet they are his family 
online?
What s being revealed that is not already public access?  And that 
any
private investigator worth his salt could find out without getting 
out

of his chair -but why would he want to?

Any of us who has been involved in Genealogy/Family History for a 
short
time knows that one of the first things you find out is the 
'skeletons
in the closest' Who was illigitimate, who had an affair,  who went 
to
prison etc etc etc Yet those who decide to publish their lines on 
line
have no qualms about releasing this information . In fact, there 
seems

to be a thrill in passing it on.
Here in Australia it is a sign of 'pedigree' if you can prove you 
are
descended from the original convicts - no matter what their crime 
was.
In USA in seems that a large number of the people with the surname 
of

Dalton are determined to add the Dalton gang in their tree.

If we are happy to publish these details regarding our dead 
ancestors
(and maybe embarrass and upset the living ones by doing so) then 
what is

the problem with declaring that my cousin is Mary Smith?

An ancestor couple of mine were extremely 'puritannical' in their
approach and their manner of life, the word 'sex' was not even 
allowed

to be mentioned and if anyone in the area fell pregnant outside of
wedlock then she became the butt of their condemnation. Yet when I
researched the family I found that they got married five years 
after the
birth of their youngest (of 7). And their was no legal hinderance 
to

them doing so.
If my mother (who is now deceased) had ever been confronted with 
that
information she would have gone into complete denial - it would 
have

been too hard for her to accept.
Yet such material we are prepared to publish. But not the name of a
living relative

I cannot understand why!!
Phil


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Re: [LegacyUG] ? Living Relatives - stolen identity

[Phil Hawkins]

GSS wrote:

My personal view as to why I will not ALLOW information about living 
people (or married people that have died young if their spouse is 
still alive) to be published in any form is because of stolen 
identities. I have a good friend whose identity was stolen (not from 
the internet but unfortunately from personnel work files that were not 
kept properly - not by my friend but someone else in the company) and 
I have seen the time, energy and sheer frustration that she and her 
family are going through (and are still going through even though this 
started more than four years ago). I would hate to think that any 
information that I had gathered for the pleasure of my 'hobby' and 
which I had given to someone else or was used from anything that I had 
done, would ever put anyone else in the position that my friend is now 
in. I know that if I can find out the information then the 'crooks' 
can do so as well, but it is like when I leave my house, I will lock 
the door and bolt the windows - I know that a thief can still get in 
if they want to but by discouraging them with my locks and bolts may 
mean they will not pick on my house but go somewhere else where it is 
easier, quicker, etc to get what they want.


Gillian


I can understand your feelings. However I must stress that I AM NOT 
talking about revealing personal information - Just a name, nothing else 
except that a relationship exists.
I did not start this thread to upset people -I cannot understand that 
telling someone that mary smith is peter smith's 2nd cousin is an issue.

However, many do have concerns and I will not belittle those concerns,
This is a Legacy support group and I posted because Legacy supports 
removing living relatives from an export- and people were asking how. I 
cannot understand why
Any further discussion on this subject seems to outside the purpose of 
this forum so I will stop this discussion from my perspective and allow 
all of us to deal with Legacy issues, not general genealogical ones

Thanks for the responses, at least I understand why some have the view

Regards
Phil


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RE: [LegacyUG] creating a website using rootsweb freepages

[Syble Glasscock]

I liked the websites,  I started with FTM and after buying a couple of updates 
to it, decided to go to Legacy, it was difficult to learn and there are some 
things I don't like about it, but for the time being I'm sticking with it, so I 
need to use the web page creation feature it has.   My website is: 
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sybleg/
   
  I'd like this to be one of the links from a "Home page", but I don't know how 
to do this,  If I create a new index.html (which is what rootsweb freepages 
uses as the "Home page" so to speak, then how do I upload this to a link?
  Thanks so much.
  Syble

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http://bedingfieldcousins.com  I used Legacy and then applied my own 
background.  I just updated, so I am in the process of publishing updated 
pages.  Click on “Curley’s Ancestors”.  It is the “pedigree” version of the 
Legacy Web Pages linked into the main website and so are the photos.
   
 
  Paul  
  P.S.  Carl, I have always liked your website.
   
   

  
-
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carl Cox
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 9:22 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] creating a website using rootsweb freepages

   
<>

 

I started with Legacy created web family tree, but switched to what I 
consider better and easier. I just upload a GEDCOM to update the data, and I 
have another (private) database in the same site. I could put as many separate 
databases as I wish. It does take some programming, however, and a web site 
that has some capability, but most sites are fine. Take a look below.

 


  http://oscox.org
Pioneer histories and descendants of Jonathan Upham Cox.
Includes Orville Sutherland Cox, Frederick Walter Cox, 
Mary Elizabeth Cox Whiting and their siblings.
  Carl[EMAIL PROTECTED],net   


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Re: [LegacyUG] creating a website using rootsweb freepages

[Bill Wilson]

Syble, here's my suggestion.

When you create the web pages for the Cline family go to the Project tab and
in the project name field enter cline. Use the Save button in the lower
right to save this and any other custom settings for the Cline sitw to a
file e.g. cline_web_project. Saving the project will allow you to load it in
the future the next time you want to create the Cline pages. When you enter
cline in the Project name field notice that the location field reight below
it changes to C:\Legacy\Web\cline. This will be where all the Cline web
pages will be located. Click the Create button to create the Cline pages.

Next, open the other family file. Go to the web page creation utility again.
Make all the changes or customizations to the web creation fields you want
to change for the other family for which you want to create web pages.
Change the Project name to the other family name and save it as you did for
the cline family e.g. glasscock_web_project. Notice that the web page
location changed to include a folder utilizing the new project name. Create
the Glasscock pages.

Now you have pages for each family in seperate folders. Upload these folders
to your site. You should be able to access each site by browsing to:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sybleg/cline
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sybleg/glasscock

The next thing you need to do is to greate an index.htm page with links to
each of those sites and upload it to
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sybleg/. This index page can be
done in a number of ways. If you want help with creating the index page
please post a message to the Legacy Web Users Group at:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]








On 7/9/07, Syble Glasscock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I liked the websites,  I started with FTM and after buying a couple of
updates to it, decided to go to Legacy, it was difficult to learn and there
are some things I don't like about it, but for the time being I'm sticking
with it, so I need to use the web page creation feature it has.   My website
is: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sybleg/

I'd like this to be one of the links from a "Home page", but I don't know
how to do this,  If I create a new index.html (which is what rootsweb
freepages uses as the "Home page" so to speak, then how do I upload this to
a link?
Thanks so much.
Syble

*Paul Abell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:

 Another is mine at http://bedingfieldcousins.com  I used Legacy and then
applied my own background.  I just updated, so I am in the process of
publishing updated pages.  Click on "Curley's Ancestors".  It is the
"pedigree" version of the Legacy Web Pages linked into the main website and
so are the photos.


  *Paul  *
P.S.  Carl, I have always liked your website.


 --
 *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Carl Cox
*Sent:* Sunday, July 08, 2007 9:22 PM
*To:* LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] creating a website using rootsweb freepages

 <>

 I started with Legacy created web family tree, but switched to what I
consider better and easier. I just upload a GEDCOM to update the data, and I
have another (private) database in the same site. I could put as many
separate databases as I wish. It does take some programming, however, and a
web site that has some capability, but most sites are fine. Take a look
below.


  http://oscox.org
Pioneer histories and descendants of Jonathan Upham Cox.
Includes Orville Sutherland Cox, Frederick Walter Cox,
Mary Elizabeth Cox Whiting and their siblings.
  Carl[EMAIL PROTECTED],net
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RE: [LegacyUG] ? Living Relatives - stolen identity

[Martin Briscoe]

It would be useful if there were some options on blocking exporting
information on Living people so that deceased spouses and deceased children
of anyone still living would not be exported or published.  Some might wish
their deceased parents information also not to be published.



Martin Briscoe
Fort William
M&LFHS | Gwynedd FHS 

 

 

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of GSS
> Sent: 09 July 2007 09:13
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] ? Living Relatives - stolen identity
> 
> My personal view as to why I will not ALLOW information about 
> living people (or married people that have died young if 
> their spouse is still alive) to be published in any form is 
> because of stolen identities.




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Re: [LegacyUG] creating a website using rootsweb freepages

[DimJim]

Syble,
When Rootsweb notified you that your  freepages  were ready, they probably 
enrolled you in a mail list [EMAIL PROTECTED]   I found the members of that 
list to be as helpful as this Legacy Users List.  Rootsweb also would have 
included links to a couple of web sites that offer some pretty basic 
instructions on web page creation.  I would highly recommend the use of those 
tools.
If Rootsweb no longer sends that information, please let me know and I'll send 
you a few links that have been helpful to me.
Jim
  - Original Message - 
  From: Syble Glasscock 
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 6:03 AM
  Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] creating a website using rootsweb freepages


  I liked the websites,  I started with FTM and after buying a couple of 
updates to it, decided to go to Legacy, it was difficult to learn and there are 
some things I don't like about it, but for the time being I'm sticking with it, 
so I need to use the web page creation feature it has.   My website is: 
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sybleg/

  I'd like this to be one of the links from a "Home page", but I don't know how 
to do this,  If I create a new index.html (which is what rootsweb freepages 
uses as the "Home page" so to speak, then how do I upload this to a link?
  Thanks so much.
  Syble

  Paul Abell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Another is mine at http://bedingfieldcousins.com  I used Legacy and then 
applied my own background.  I just updated, so I am in the process of 
publishing updated pages.  Click on "Curley's Ancestors".  It is the "pedigree" 
version of the Legacy Web Pages linked into the main website and so are the 
photos.
 
 
  Paul   

P.S.  Carl, I have always liked your website.
 
 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carl Cox
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 9:22 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] creating a website using rootsweb freepages
 
<>
 
I started with Legacy created web family tree, but switched to what I 
consider better and easier. I just upload a GEDCOM to update the data, and I 
have another (private) database in the same site. I could put as many separate 
databases as I wish. It does take some programming, however, and a web site 
that has some capability, but most sites are fine. Take a look below.
 

  http://oscox.org
Pioneer histories and descendants of Jonathan Upham Cox.
Includes Orville Sutherland Cox, Frederick Walter Cox, 
Mary Elizabeth Cox Whiting and their siblings.
  Carl[EMAIL PROTECTED],net   
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Re: [LegacyUG] creating a website using rootsweb freepages

[Rich Greathouse]

We maintain 14 seperate Legacy databases for the Greathouse families in
America. I use a families index page to access the patriarch index page for
each branch of the family. The patriarch index page links up the two reports
that we currently publish on each family: descendant report and all
individual report.

This works has worked well for us, ever since we moved to Legacy 2 or 3
years ago now.

You can see our implementation of this at:

www.greathouse.us/families.htm


Rick

On 7/9/07, DimJim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 Syble,
When Rootsweb notified you that your  freepages  were ready, they probably
enrolled you in a mail list [EMAIL PROTECTED]   I found the
members of that list to be as helpful as this Legacy Users List.  Rootsweb
also would have included links to a couple of web sites that offer some
pretty basic instructions on web page creation.  I would highly recommend
the use of those tools.
If Rootsweb no longer sends that information, please let me know and I'll
send you a few links that have been helpful to me.
Jim

- Original Message -
*From:* Syble Glasscock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
*To:* LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
*Sent:* Monday, July 09, 2007 6:03 AM
*Subject:* RE: [LegacyUG] creating a website using rootsweb freepages

I liked the websites,  I started with FTM and after buying a couple of
updates to it, decided to go to Legacy, it was difficult to learn and there
are some things I don't like about it, but for the time being I'm sticking
with it, so I need to use the web page creation feature it has.   My website
is: 
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sybleg/

I'd like this to be one of the links from a "Home page", but I don't know
how to do this,  If I create a new index.html (which is what rootsweb
freepages uses as the "Home page" so to speak, then how do I upload this to
a link?
Thanks so much.
Syble

*Paul Abell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:

 Another is mine at http://bedingfieldcousins.com  I used Legacy and then
applied my own background.  I just updated, so I am in the process of
publishing updated pages.  Click on "Curley's Ancestors".  It is the
"pedigree" version of the Legacy Web Pages linked into the main website and
so are the photos.


  *Paul  *
P.S.  Carl, I have always liked your website.


 --
 *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Carl Cox
*Sent:* Sunday, July 08, 2007 9:22 PM
*To:* LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] creating a website using rootsweb freepages

 <>

 I started with Legacy created web family tree, but switched to what I
consider better and easier. I just upload a GEDCOM to update the data, and I
have another (private) database in the same site. I could put as many
separate databases as I wish. It does take some programming, however, and a
web site that has some capability, but most sites are fine. Take a look
below.


  http://oscox.org
Pioneer histories and descendants of Jonathan Upham Cox.
Includes Orville Sutherland Cox, Frederick Walter Cox,
Mary Elizabeth Cox Whiting and their siblings.
  Carl[EMAIL PROTECTED],net
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Re: [LegacyUG] ? Living Relatives

[Anne Hildrum]

- Original Message - 
From: "Gene Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 4:43 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] ? Living Relatives



Karl Plenge wrote:
One other consideration on this is legal issues.  In the US, a dead 
person has no legal right to privacy, but I suppose the websites would be 
opening themselves up to lawsuits if someone published someone's name who 
did not wish to be published.



Bingo!
Give that man a cigar.  A private person, unlike a public person such as a 
movie star or politician, has a legal right to his private life.  By 
posting his or her information on the very public World Wide Web, you 
violate that privacy and open yourself to possible civil action.  If he 
wishes to have his name and telephone number in the phone book, that is 
HIS choice.  You putting his business in public is not.  You may or may 
not like this but it is a fact of today's life that we must either 
respect, or pay the price.




I am all for keeping living people off the Internet, not so much for the 
reasons you all quote.
Legal issues, there are different ones for different countries, and while it 
may be illegal to
post on the internett in the USA that Linda Smith was the daughter of Harold 
Smith and

Karen Doe, it certainly may be legal in other countries.


If I wanted to write a book about my family etc, may be it would be nice to 
ask everyone living if the

accept to be in it, I don't think I legally need to do so.

In order to do genealogy you often get help from family and friends, and of 
course a lot of sources will dry up
because you put people on the internett and your sources get really annoyed 
by it.


Why is it so important to put living people on the Internet, especialy when 
one knows that a lot

don't want to be there.

Anne 




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Re: [LegacyUG] ? Living Relatives

[Ruth Nerud]

One of my aunts did not want her son-in-law to see any information on our 
family - why I don't know because the entire family was hardworking, no 
skeletons in the closet. She said she knew nothing about his family so he 
didn't have to know about hers. When I found a cousin had put our entire 
family on the Internet, I was sure she'd be unhappy and asked him to take my 
family names out and hers as well. He got ticked and took everybody off - 
even his own family - which makes me believe he talked to his Mom about it 
and she told him to take their family off the Internet also. So - the moral 
of my story is - ask before you put any living names, dates, etc. on the 
Internet. Why make enemies of your relatives.


Ruth A. (Sconza Testa) Nerud
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Re: [LegacyUG] ? Living Relatives

[Sara Binkley Tarpley]

Paul,

No, I am not an expert, but I know this:  being able to sue someone
tells very little about the law.  Anyone can sue anyone for almost
anything if they can find a half-way plausible reason and a lawyer
willing to take the case.  You can even represent yourself.  Many
frivolous lawsuits are filed every year and dismissed by the courts.
You have also qualified your original statement by saying that you can
be sued if you publish a "tell all" book using the names of the
living.  A discussion of what that means [derogatory remarks about the
living person? true or untrue?] is beyond the scope of this list, and
I apologize for being so far afield even with these remarks.  But I am
still unaware of any law against simply mentioning a living person
without his permission in a published work that violates the law.

Sara

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To the woman married to the lawyer.in the United States, if you publish
a "tell all" book using the names of the living without permission, YES you
can be sued.  Ask your attorney husband or talk to a reputable publishing
house.  I have dealt with publishers.  Being married to an attorney doesn't
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Re: [LegacyUG] ? Living Relatives

[marilyn E B]

This conversation has gone far afield from Legacy; however, those who do not
want information about them and their families out for public consumption should
never check the obituaries of their family, they would have a heart attack.

Anyone who collects obituaries for their family and or locality could
trace the family
very well. These can be found both in the newspapers and funeral home online
information.

Personal opinion is that someone wanting to do idenity theft or other
thefts would be
more likely to use obituaries. Obituaries often include mother's maiden name.

Marilyne

On 7/9/07, Sara Binkley Tarpley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Paul,

No, I am not an expert, but I know this:  being able to sue someone
tells very little about the law.  Anyone can sue anyone for almost
anything if they can find a half-way plausible reason and a lawyer
willing to take the case.  You can even represent yourself.  Many
frivolous lawsuits are filed every year and dismissed by the courts.
You have also qualified your original statement by saying that you can
be sued if you publish a "tell all" book using the names of the
living.  A discussion of what that means [derogatory remarks about the
living person? true or untrue?] is beyond the scope of this list, and
I apologize for being so far afield even with these remarks.  But I am
still unaware of any law against simply mentioning a living person
without his permission in a published work that violates the law.

Sara

On 7/8/07, Paul Abell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>

>
> To the woman married to the lawyer.in the United States, if you publish
> a "tell all" book using the names of the living without permission, YES you
> can be sued.  Ask your attorney husband or talk to a reputable publishing
> house.  I have dealt with publishers.  Being married to an attorney doesn't
> make a spouse an expert.


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RE: [LegacyUG] ? Living Relatives

[Jim Terry]

Ruth,

This can be a tricky situation. A couple of years ago I had uploaded some
genealogy web pages to the Internet. I was later contacted by a second
cousin who did want ANY of her ancestors (no matter how many generations
back) on the Internet. Yet, these were my ancestors too.  Can one
disgruntled, unhappy person forbid the publication of genealogy on the web,
even when the people lived more than 100 years ago?  After all, they were
not exclusively her ancestors -- they were mine also.

Jim Terry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] ? Living Relatives

One of my aunts did not want her son-in-law to see any information on our 
family - why I don't know because the entire family was hardworking, no 
skeletons in the closet

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Re: [LegacyUG] ? Living Relatives

[Ruth Nerud]

Jim - You are absolutely correct - I hadn't thought of it that way.

Ruth

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Ruth,

This can be a tricky situation. A couple of years ago I had uploaded some
genealogy web pages to the Internet. I was later contacted by a second
cousin who did want ANY of her ancestors (no matter how many generations
back) on the Internet. Yet, these were my ancestors too.  Can one
disgruntled, unhappy person forbid the publication of genealogy on the 
web,

even when the people lived more than 100 years ago?  After all, they were
not exclusively her ancestors -- they were mine also.

Jim Terry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


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Nerud

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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] ? Living Relatives

One of my aunts did not want her son-in-law to see any information on our
family - why I don't know because the entire family was hardworking, no
skeletons in the closet

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RE: [LegacyUG] Forms Menu

[Jack Earnshaw]

OOPS!

So even Sherry manages to send HTML to the list. So what hope the rest of
us!

Jack

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Sherry/Support
Sent: 09 July 2007 04:50
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Forms Menu


Ann,

Yes, like I said, I saw that.  But there are no research forms under the
Forms Center, only the Research Log, just above the button for the Forms
Center on the Books/Other tab.

I've asked the programmers to look into correcting the Help file.

Thanks for using Legacy.

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Original Message-

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ann Parsons
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 1:55 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Forms Menu

Sherry,
Here is what is in the help section.
Ann
The Forms List
The list of available forms is built from the names of the form files in the
Forms folder.  By default, Legacy installs the initial group of forms into
the Forms folder off of the Legacy folder (for example: C:\Legacy\Forms).

When the list is first displayed, it is in a compressed format showing only
the top-level categories.  For example:

This example shows three groups of forms, Census, Relationship Chart, and
Research.

- Original Message -
From: Sherry/Support
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 11:19 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Forms Menu

Ann,


Plain text, please.

There's a Research Log option under Books/Other, just above the Forms
Center.  I don't know what the Help file is referring to.  I'll have to
check with the programmers.

Thanks for using Legacy.

Sherry
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
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RE: [LegacyUG] Forms Menu

[Sherry/Support]

Jack,

For this particular message, I left the response in HTML on purpose because
of the formatting of her question.  99.99% of the time I reformat not only
my responses to the LUG list that were originally posted in HTML but also to
those who email Support.

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Earnshaw
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 9:25 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Forms Menu

OOPS!

So even Sherry manages to send HTML to the list. So what hope the rest of
us!

Jack




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RE: [LegacyUG] ? Living Relatives

[Paul Abell]

Jim,
I had a family member that had her identity stolen a couple years ago.  She
asked me to completely remove her family as well.  I told her that I would
not use her name or the name of any of her children, but as for those not
living, I would post and I did.  I suppressed the living.  She and I talk on
a regular basis now.  She came to realize that she cannot stop her ancestors
from being posted.  Now she is fine.  I, for one, am glad we have the
ability to suppress the living in Legacy.

 
Paul  
 
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Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 11:24 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] ? Living Relatives

Ruth,

This can be a tricky situation. A couple of years ago I had uploaded some
genealogy web pages to the Internet. I was later contacted by a second
cousin who did want ANY of her ancestors (no matter how many generations
back) on the Internet. Yet, these were my ancestors too.  Can one
disgruntled, unhappy person forbid the publication of genealogy on the web,
even when the people lived more than 100 years ago?  After all, they were
not exclusively her ancestors -- they were mine also.

Jim Terry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree





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RE: [LegacyUG] creating a website using rootsweb freepages

[Paul Abell]

Syble, 

You have a great start and it is looking good.  The only thing I saw from my
brief visit was that your “Table of Contents” link at the bottom of your
pages does not work.  It is pointing to
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sybleg/Index.html  
but it should point to 
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sybleg/index.html.
Do you see the difference?  The word "Index" should not start with a capital
"I".  If you change that, the link will work or change the name of the page
to "Index" from "index".

I am not sure I understand when you say, "I'd like this to be one of the
links from a "Home page."  Do you already have another "Home page".  As of
now, your index is your home page.  You may email me privately if you think
I can be of help

Paul  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Syble
Glasscock
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 7:04 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] creating a website using rootsweb freepages

I liked the websites,  I started with FTM and after buying a couple of
updates to it, decided to go to Legacy, it was difficult to learn and there
are some things I don't like about it, but for the time being I'm sticking
with it, so I need to use the web page creation feature it has.   My website
is: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sybleg/
 
I'd like this to be one of the links from a "Home page", but I don't know
how to do this,  If I create a new index.html (which is what rootsweb
freepages uses as the "Home page" so to speak, then how do I upload this to
a link?
Thanks so much.
Syble



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[LegacyUG] Proper identification of Jewish names

[Bill Hardy]

I trust this is not an improper question for this forum.
I am encountering a number of Jewish and Middle-Eastern names in 
one of my lines and am at a loss to know how to enter them in Legacy. 
They are given in one long line without any punctuation or explanations. 
e.g.( /Exilarch Bustanai ben Haninai beni David)./ Due to my ignorance 
of Jewish tradition or nomenclature, I am not sure how to enter this in 
Legascy, per Given Name, Surname, Title Prefix or Title Suffix.
I would like to be able to refer to this group with proper 
surnames, etc.
It would be appreciated if someone with personal Jewish naming 
knowledge would reply, or possibly put me in touch with some 
publications I could study.

Thanks, Bill


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RE: [LegacyUG] Proper identification of Jewish names

[Linda Altman]

Bill;
The example you gave is an extremely good example of a Jewish patronym.
Exilarch Bustanai ben Haninai beni David means; Exilarch Bustanai son of
Haninai son of David. His Americanized name would be Exilarch Bustanai. His
true name is given name Exilarch and his surname is Bustanai ben Haninai
beni David. A very good forum for Jewish genealogy question is
http://www.jewishgen.org  There are many individuals that are very
knowledgeable about Jewish names and customs that can help you out.

Linda Altman
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