Re: [LegacyUG] 1/2 Brother to Mom, what's he to me

[Myrick]

Okay, you're right - I had never even noticed that relationship to ME
on the Pedigree screen.  But it still shows the same thing as it does on
the Family View on mine:  Half Uncle, Half 1st Cousin, etc.

I can't even guess why yours doesn't, but someone out there must know.

Kent Myrick

- Original Message - 
  From: John Magyari 
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 9:22 PM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] 1/2 Brother to Mom, what's he to me


  All in the Pedigree View of Legacy 6.0

  If I select my Mother's brother it shows UNCLE to the right of his name

  If I select my mother's half brother it shows nothing.

  If I select my Uncles Child it shows First Cousin to the right of his name.

  I do agree my Uncle and 1st Cousin are not my ancestors but when they are 
select in the Pedigree View it shows there correct relationship to me.

  Tools -> Set Relationships and set it to me.

  Then select other relatives in the pedigree view.

  If there's a relationship it appears to the right of their name.

  1/2 Uncle nothing to the right of his name.

  Are you using an old version of Legacy?

  john

  Myrick wrote: 
The Pedigree screen shows the selected person's ancestors,
not any other relationships.

Kent Myrick
  - Original Message - 
  From: John Magyari 
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 7:25 PM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] 1/2 Brother to Mom, what's he to me


  When I'm looking at relations via the Pedigree Tab and select the 1/2 
  Uncle nothing appears to the right of his name.

  For all other relationships based on who is highlighted Father, mother, 
  uncle, aunt, grandmother I do see the relationship appear to the right 
  of the name.

  When I do the Relationship Calculator I do see 1/2 Uncle.  I have never 
  used this feature before.

  Still wondering why I don't see something in the Pedigree view though!

  thanks,
  john

  Wendy Howard wrote:
  > HI John,
  >
  > In the relationships displayed above the central couple in the Family 
  > View, the relationship is called Uncle.  However, if you go to the 
  > Relationship Calculator (under Tools in the menu) and choose those two 
  > people, it will be called Half-Uncle, which is what I was thinking I'd 
  > call it before I went to see what Legacy would do.  Is this a bug?
  >
  > Hope this helps.  :-)
  >
  > Kind Regards,
  > Wendy Howard



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Re: [LegacyUG] Multiple dates (birth, death, marriage)

[JLB]

Probably the most obvious is Alternates under Events, be it Alternate 
Birth, Alternate Death, Alternate Burial, etc, etc.  Add a New event, 
pick or define the alternate and put in your data plus source.  There 
may be a range of opinions on this but I think you'd be better off 
entering the alternates and their sources as you go, rather than 
entering dates and then going back over searching for your source 
material later.  If you find some definitive answers later you can 
delete the alternates although some people recommend leaving them in 
there anyway.  If you start out by putting alternate information in 
General Notes, it's not much better than having it all on scraps of 
paper.  In other words, at some point, you're going to want to go 
through your General Notes and move it all elsewhere.  It's doing the 
same thing twice with not much benefit.  But it's an option.  It's 
easier to see where you are on the Individual Information screen if it's 
in Events.


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Garnet Quigley wrote:
As a Legacy newbie I am trying to merge into my first Legacy tree  
large numbers of hard copy and electronic data gathered about my 
ancestors.  These have been assembled by numerous kin over many years, 
and passed around with the resulting loss of the original sources 
assuming they had been recorded in the first place.  As you can 
imagine there are many discrepancies in dates, often just off by days 
or months but with the correct year.  My personal preference is to 
assemble the tree first, then use it as the basis afterwards for my 
own research to source and validate the entries, especially the ones 
with multiple dates.


I realize I could just add the discrepancies to Notes, or leave the 
date blank,  or with a prefix, until my own research has "confirmed" 
the date.  But by any chance is there anywhere in Legacy 6.0 deluxe to 
capture multiple birth, death or marriage dates similar to the AKA 
functionality you can use when person has aliases?


Thank you for your input,

Garnet





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[LegacyUG] Multiple dates (birth, death, marriage)

[Garnet Quigley]

As a Legacy newbie I am trying to merge into my first Legacy tree  large 
numbers of hard copy and electronic data gathered about my ancestors.  
These have been assembled by numerous kin over many years, and passed 
around with the resulting loss of the original sources assuming they had 
been recorded in the first place.  As you can imagine there are many 
discrepancies in dates, often just off by days or months but with the 
correct year.  My personal preference is to assemble the tree first, 
then use it as the basis afterwards for my own research to source and 
validate the entries, especially the ones with multiple dates.


I realize I could just add the discrepancies to Notes, or leave the date 
blank,  or with a prefix, until my own research has "confirmed" the 
date.  But by any chance is there anywhere in Legacy 6.0 deluxe to 
capture multiple birth, death or marriage dates similar to the AKA 
functionality you can use when person has aliases?


Thank you for your input,

Garnet





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Re: [LegacyUG] 1/2 Brother to Mom, what's he to me

[John Magyari]

All in the Pedigree View of Legacy 6.0

If I select my Mother's brother it shows UNCLE to the right of his name

If I select my mother's half brother it shows nothing.

If I select my Uncles Child it shows First Cousin to the right of his name.

I do agree my Uncle and 1st Cousin are not my ancestors but when they 
are select in the Pedigree View it shows there correct relationship to me.


Tools -> Set Relationships and set it to me.

Then select other relatives in the pedigree view.

If there's a relationship it appears to the right of their name.

1/2 Uncle nothing to the right of his name.

Are you using an old version of Legacy?

john

Myrick wrote:

The Pedigree screen shows the selected person's ancestors,
not any other relationships.
 
Kent Myrick


- Original Message -
*From:* John Magyari 
*To:* LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com

*Sent:* Friday, March 21, 2008 7:25 PM
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] 1/2 Brother to Mom, what's he to me

When I'm looking at relations via the Pedigree Tab and select the 1/2
Uncle nothing appears to the right of his name.

For all other relationships based on who is highlighted Father,
mother,
uncle, aunt, grandmother I do see the relationship appear to the
right
of the name.

When I do the Relationship Calculator I do see 1/2 Uncle.  I have
never
used this feature before.

Still wondering why I don't see something in the Pedigree view though!

thanks,
john

Wendy Howard wrote:
> HI John,
>
> In the relationships displayed above the central couple in the
Family
> View, the relationship is called Uncle.  However, if you go to the
> Relationship Calculator (under Tools in the menu) and choose
those two
> people, it will be called Half-Uncle, which is what I was
thinking I'd
> call it before I went to see what Legacy would do.  Is this a bug?
>
> Hope this helps.  :-)
>
> Kind Regards,
> Wendy Howard



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Re: [LegacyUG] Re:SORTABLE LISTS?

[Myrick]

Must be true, what they say about great minds!  I was just considering
whether I could add another generation when your message bing-bonged
into my Inbox!

Now let's see.. for the 3rd generation

Kent
  - Original Message - 
  From: Wynthner 
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 8:52 PM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Re:SORTABLE LISTS?


  Just as there are cadet houses in the royal lines; you could do the same for 
the first generations of each of your seven houses (i.e. House of 
Isaac-William(first child), House of Isaac-Beatrice(second child), etc.
  *GRIN*

  - Original Message 
  From: Myrick 
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
  Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 9:22:53 PM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Re:SORTABLE LISTS?

   ORIGINAL WRITER HERE:  KENT  MYRICK

   I think this one is the answer. I've  never used either User ID or the AFN
   field, so either one is available to use  as a "House of." field.

   I'm experimenting, but I think this will  do what I wanted.  Thank you all 
for
   the suggestions, though many went over my  head.  I don't have Access or
   Excell or Office.  And I'm not a  computer guru.  I just felt that Legacy,
   with all its facets, had an answer for me  somewhere. I've used Legacy for
   about 3 years, and am constantly  finding new applications.

   I didn't explain my purpose fully because  it didn't seem relevant, and I see
   I confused some of you.  For that I  apologize.

   I'm Moderator of a research group  of Frazier Cousins on Yahoo, with about
   120 cousins as members.  We share  family photos, files, etc.  This group 
grew
   out of a gathering of names for a reunion  about 8 years ago. That's when
   we conceived of assigning people to  various "Houses", by ancestral line.  It
   was a bit of whimsy that proved to be  fun, popular AND handy, as it broke a
   large group down into manageable  segments. This was especially handy for
   gathering people together for family  photos, as the group photo of 40+
   people was a bit unwieldy.

   Lately I've thought of reviving that  grouping by House, again mostly for 
fun,
   but also to group people in my Cousins  group with their closest relatives in
   the group.  The people  are already in my Legacy files, I just needed a way 
   to note them by House.

   So thanks to all of you again, and I'm  sorry for any confusion I caused!

   Kent Myrick in Phoenix, 
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Re: [LegacyUG] 1/2 Brother to Mom + Half-Uncle

[Wynthner]

And the spouses of you uncles and half-uncles are aunts-in-law and half 
aunts-in law respectively.
*grin*

- Original Message 
From: Myrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 10:26:26 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] 1/2 Brother to Mom + Half-Uncle

 I don't think it's a bug.  I also  have a grandmother with a second
 family, and Legacy shows them as  half-aunts and half-uncles on
 the Family View screen.   Makes  sense; Mom's brothers are uncles.
 Mom's half brothers are  half-uncles.
  
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Re: [LegacyUG] Re:SORTABLE LISTS?

[Wynthner]

Just as there are cadet houses in the royal lines; you could do the same for 
the first generations of each of your seven houses (i.e. House of 
Isaac-William(first child), House of Isaac-Beatrice(second child), etc.
*GRIN*

- Original Message 
From: Myrick 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 9:22:53 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Re:SORTABLE LISTS?

 ORIGINAL WRITER HERE:  KENT  MYRICK
  
 I think this one is the answer. I've  never used either User ID or the AFN
 field, so either one is available to use  as a "House of." field.
  
 I'm experimenting, but I think this will  do what I wanted.  Thank you all for
 the suggestions, though many went over my  head.  I don't have Access or
 Excell or Office.  And I'm not a  computer guru.  I just felt that Legacy,
 with all its facets, had an answer for me  somewhere. I've used Legacy for
 about 3 years, and am constantly  finding new applications.
  
 I didn't explain my purpose fully because  it didn't seem relevant, and I see
 I confused some of you.  For that I  apologize.
  
 I'm Moderator of a research group  of Frazier Cousins on Yahoo, with about
 120 cousins as members.  We share  family photos, files, etc.  This group grew
 out of a gathering of names for a reunion  about 8 years ago. That's when
 we conceived of assigning people to  various "Houses", by ancestral line.  It
 was a bit of whimsy that proved to be  fun, popular AND handy, as it broke a
 large group down into manageable  segments. This was especially handy for
 gathering people together for family  photos, as the group photo of 40+
 people was a bit unwieldy.
  
 Lately I've thought of reviving that  grouping by House, again mostly for fun,
 but also to group people in my Cousins  group with their closest relatives in
 the group.  The people  are already in my Legacy files, I just needed a way 
 to note them by House.
  
 So thanks to all of you again, and I'm  sorry for any confusion I caused!
  
 Kent Myrick in Phoenix, 
 where spring is here and the flowers are  blooming!
  








  

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Re: [LegacyUG] 1/2 Brother to Mom, what's he to me

[Myrick]

The Pedigree screen shows the selected person's ancestors,
not any other relationships.

Kent Myrick
  - Original Message - 
  From: John Magyari 
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 7:25 PM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] 1/2 Brother to Mom, what's he to me


  When I'm looking at relations via the Pedigree Tab and select the 1/2 
  Uncle nothing appears to the right of his name.

  For all other relationships based on who is highlighted Father, mother, 
  uncle, aunt, grandmother I do see the relationship appear to the right 
  of the name.

  When I do the Relationship Calculator I do see 1/2 Uncle.  I have never 
  used this feature before.

  Still wondering why I don't see something in the Pedigree view though!

  thanks,
  john

  Wendy Howard wrote:
  > HI John,
  >
  > In the relationships displayed above the central couple in the Family 
  > View, the relationship is called Uncle.  However, if you go to the 
  > Relationship Calculator (under Tools in the menu) and choose those two 
  > people, it will be called Half-Uncle, which is what I was thinking I'd 
  > call it before I went to see what Legacy would do.  Is this a bug?
  >
  > Hope this helps.  :-)
  >
  > Kind Regards,
  > Wendy Howard



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Re: [LegacyUG] 1/2 Brother to Mom + Half-Uncle

[Myrick]

I don't think it's a bug.  I also have a grandmother with a second
family, and Legacy shows them as half-aunts and half-uncles on
the Family View screen.   Makes sense; Mom's brothers are uncles.
Mom's half brothers are half-uncles.

Kent Myrick
  - Original Message - 
  From: Wendy Howard 
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 6:42 PM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] 1/2 Brother to Mom, what's he to me


  HI John,

  In the relationships displayed above the central couple in the Family 
  View, the relationship is called Uncle.  However, if you go to the 
  Relationship Calculator (under Tools in the menu) and choose those two 
  people, it will be called Half-Uncle, which is what I was thinking I'd 
  call it before I went to see what Legacy would do.  Is this a bug?

  Hope this helps.  :-)

  Kind Regards,
  Wendy Howard
  -- 
  Kaiwaka, Northland, New Zealand
  http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wendyh65/ 
  

  - Original Message -
  *From:* John Magyari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  *To:* LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
  *Sent:* 03/22/2008 1:27:32 PM +1300
  *Subject:* [LegacyUG] 1/2 Brother to Mom, what's he to me


  > Legacy 6 Deluxe 6.0.0.190
  >
  > In Legacy I set the relationship based on me.
  >
  > If my mom's mother (my Grandmother) had a son to a previous husband 
  > (not my mom's dad) what should the 1/2 brother of my mom, relationship 
  > be to me.
  >
  > What I'm seeing via Legacy is nothing.  Would he be a 1/2 Uncle, 
  > Uncle, maybe not related?
  >
  > john



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Re: [LegacyUG] 1/2 Brother to Mom, what's he to me

[John Magyari]

When I'm looking at relations via the Pedigree Tab and select the 1/2 
Uncle nothing appears to the right of his name.


For all other relationships based on who is highlighted Father, mother, 
uncle, aunt, grandmother I do see the relationship appear to the right 
of the name.


When I do the Relationship Calculator I do see 1/2 Uncle.  I have never 
used this feature before.


Still wondering why I don't see something in the Pedigree view though!

thanks,
john

Wendy Howard wrote:

HI John,

In the relationships displayed above the central couple in the Family 
View, the relationship is called Uncle.  However, if you go to the 
Relationship Calculator (under Tools in the menu) and choose those two 
people, it will be called Half-Uncle, which is what I was thinking I'd 
call it before I went to see what Legacy would do.  Is this a bug?


Hope this helps.  :-)

Kind Regards,
Wendy Howard




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Re: [LegacyUG] Re:SORTABLE LISTS?

[Myrick]

ORIGINAL WRITER HERE:  KENT MYRICK

I think this one is the answer. I've never used either User ID or the AFN
field, so either one is available to use as a "House of." field.

I'm experimenting, but I think this will do what I wanted.  Thank you all for
the suggestions, though many went over my head.  I don't have Access or
Excell or Office.  And I'm not a computer guru.  I just felt that Legacy,
with all its facets, had an answer for me somewhere. I've used Legacy for
about 3 years, and am constantly finding new applications.

I didn't explain my purpose fully because it didn't seem relevant, and I see
I confused some of you.  For that I apologize.

I'm Moderator of a research group of Frazier Cousins on Yahoo, with about
120 cousins as members.  We share family photos, files, etc.  This group grew
out of a gathering of names for a reunion about 8 years ago. That's when
we conceived of assigning people to various "Houses", by ancestral line.  It
was a bit of whimsy that proved to be fun, popular AND handy, as it broke a
large group down into manageable segments. This was especially handy for
gathering people together for family photos, as the group photo of 40+
people was a bit unwieldy.

Lately I've thought of reviving that grouping by House, again mostly for fun,
but also to group people in my Cousins group with their closest relatives in
the group.  The people are already in my Legacy files, I just needed a way 
to note them by House.

So thanks to all of you again, and I'm sorry for any confusion I caused!

Kent Myrick in Phoenix, 
where spring is here and the flowers are blooming!

  - Original Message - 
  From: M. Brenzel 
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 5:09 PM
  Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Re:SORTABLE LISTS?


  How about putting "House of David" etc in the User ID field for each
  appropriate person.  Then you can search on that and create a list.  From
  the search list, you can select the information to print in the report from
  the Print button.  You can output the "report" as a CSV file and bring it
  into Excel.

  Mary

  ---
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Myrick
  Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 2:00 PM
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
  Subject: [LegacyUG] Re:SORTABLE LISTS?

  Is there any kind of report (file) Legacy can make that will show simple
  line items, such as:

  Kent Myrick House of David E-mail address

  I need to be able to sort the file. I can do it in a word processor file, 
  but it would really simplify things for me if Legacy can do it somehow.

  Why? Several years ago we had a Frazier family reunion. Our immigrant
  ancestor had 7 children, and just for fun, we divided the group up by
  their names, e.g. "House of David", "House of Isaac" and so on. We had
  name tags and a hand-drawn chart showing each House and the members
  of each who were at the reunion. It turned out to be a fun way of creating
  smaller groups of closer relatives, and we photographed each House
  separately.

  We kept lists of each House by hand back then, but all have since been 
  lost and re-creating them is a labor I'd rather not take on again. BUT 
  all those people are in my Legacy file, and if I could somehow permanently 
  note them in a file, I'd be ecstatic.

  I know there's one way to do it with the Address File. There are already 
  blanks for name and e-mail address, and I could put the House in any of
  the other fields that I don't need. But there's no way to sort that list
  and print it out except by using the Name Tag function, which doesn't
  do what I need. Or is there

  And I don't want to use the Tags because they're not permanent markers. 

  Is there any other way?

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Re: [LegacyUG] 1/2 Brother to Mom, what's he to me

[Wendy Howard]

HI John,

In the relationships displayed above the central couple in the Family 
View, the relationship is called Uncle.  However, if you go to the 
Relationship Calculator (under Tools in the menu) and choose those two 
people, it will be called Half-Uncle, which is what I was thinking I'd 
call it before I went to see what Legacy would do.  Is this a bug?


Hope this helps.  :-)

Kind Regards,
Wendy Howard
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*Subject:* [LegacyUG] 1/2 Brother to Mom, what's he to me



Legacy 6 Deluxe 6.0.0.190

In Legacy I set the relationship based on me.

If my mom's mother (my Grandmother) had a son to a previous husband 
(not my mom's dad) what should the 1/2 brother of my mom, relationship 
be to me.


What I'm seeing via Legacy is nothing.  Would he be a 1/2 Uncle, 
Uncle, maybe not related?


john




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Re: [LegacyUG] 1/2 Brother to Mom, what's he to me

[Maureen Chambers]

John wrote:  "what should the 1/2 brother of my mom, relationship be to 
me"


He is your half uncle.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Re:SORTABLE LISTS?

[M. Brenzel]

And when I said search on the User ID I meant that you can search on User ID
contains "House of" and you'll get all of the people.

Mary

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Re:SORTABLE LISTS?

Brilliant!  good grief.  Or go with the original writer's suggestion of 
putting "House of" into an unused address field.  Something/anything 
that can be searched.  Original writer - yoo hoo, still there?

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M. Brenzel wrote:
> How about putting "House of David" etc in the User ID field for each
> appropriate person.  Then you can search on that and create a list.  From
> the search list, you can select the information to print in the report
from
> the Print button.  You can output the "report" as a CSV file and bring it
> into Excel.
>
> Mary
>
> ---
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Myrick
> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 2:00 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Re:SORTABLE LISTS?
>
> Is there any kind of report (file) Legacy can make that will show simple
> line items, such as:
>  
> Kent MyrickHouse of DavidE-mail address
>  
> I need to be able to sort the file.  I can do it in a word processor file,

> but it would really simplify things for me if Legacy can do it somehow.
>  
> Why?  Several years ago we had a Frazier family reunion.  Our immigrant
> ancestor had 7 children, and just for fun, we divided the group up by
> their names, e.g.  "House of David",   "House of Isaac"  and so on. We had
> name tags and a hand-drawn chart showing each House and the members
> of each who were at the reunion.  It turned out to be a fun way of
creating
> smaller groups of closer relatives, and we photographed each House
> separately.
>  
> We kept lists of each House by hand back then, but all have since been 
> lost and re-creating them is a labor I'd rather not take on again.  BUT 
> all those people are in my Legacy file, and if I could somehow permanently

> note them in a file, I'd be ecstatic.
>  
> I know there's one way to do it with the Address File. There are already 
> blanks for name and e-mail address, and I could put the House in any of
> the other fields that I don't need.  But there's no way to sort that list
> and print it out except by using the Name Tag function, which doesn't
> do what I need.  Or is there
>  
> And I don't want to use the Tags because they're not permanent markers.  
>  
> Is there any other way?
>  
> Kent Myrick
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[LegacyUG] 1/2 Brother to Mom, what's he to me

[John Magyari]

Legacy 6 Deluxe 6.0.0.190

In Legacy I set the relationship based on me.

If my mom's mother (my Grandmother) had a son to a previous husband (not 
my mom's dad) what should the 1/2 brother of my mom, relationship be to me.


What I'm seeing via Legacy is nothing.  Would he be a 1/2 Uncle, Uncle, 
maybe not related?


john





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Re: [LegacyUG] Re:SORTABLE LISTS?

[JLB]

Brilliant!  good grief.  Or go with the original writer's suggestion of 
putting "House of" into an unused address field.  Something/anything 
that can be searched.  Original writer - yoo hoo, still there?


JL
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M. Brenzel wrote:

How about putting "House of David" etc in the User ID field for each
appropriate person.  Then you can search on that and create a list.  From
the search list, you can select the information to print in the report from
the Print button.  You can output the "report" as a CSV file and bring it
into Excel.

Mary

---
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Myrick
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 2:00 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Re:SORTABLE LISTS?

Is there any kind of report (file) Legacy can make that will show simple
line items, such as:
 
Kent MyrickHouse of DavidE-mail address
 
I need to be able to sort the file.  I can do it in a word processor file, 
but it would really simplify things for me if Legacy can do it somehow.
 
Why?  Several years ago we had a Frazier family reunion.  Our immigrant

ancestor had 7 children, and just for fun, we divided the group up by
their names, e.g.  "House of David",   "House of Isaac"  and so on. We had
name tags and a hand-drawn chart showing each House and the members
of each who were at the reunion.  It turned out to be a fun way of creating
smaller groups of closer relatives, and we photographed each House
separately.
 
We kept lists of each House by hand back then, but all have since been 
lost and re-creating them is a labor I'd rather not take on again.  BUT 
all those people are in my Legacy file, and if I could somehow permanently 
note them in a file, I'd be ecstatic.
 
I know there's one way to do it with the Address File. There are already 
blanks for name and e-mail address, and I could put the House in any of

the other fields that I don't need.  But there's no way to sort that list
and print it out except by using the Name Tag function, which doesn't
do what I need.  Or is there
 
And I don't want to use the Tags because they're not permanent markers.  
 
Is there any other way?
 
Kent Myrick

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RE: [LegacyUG] Re:SORTABLE LISTS?

[M. Brenzel]

How about putting "House of David" etc in the User ID field for each
appropriate person.  Then you can search on that and create a list.  From
the search list, you can select the information to print in the report from
the Print button.  You can output the "report" as a CSV file and bring it
into Excel.

Mary

---
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Myrick
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 2:00 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Re:SORTABLE LISTS?

Is there any kind of report (file) Legacy can make that will show simple
line items, such as:
 
Kent Myrick    House of David    E-mail address
 
I need to be able to sort the file.  I can do it in a word processor file, 
but it would really simplify things for me if Legacy can do it somehow.
 
Why?  Several years ago we had a Frazier family reunion.  Our immigrant
ancestor had 7 children, and just for fun, we divided the group up by
their names, e.g.  "House of David",   "House of Isaac"  and so on. We had
name tags and a hand-drawn chart showing each House and the members
of each who were at the reunion.  It turned out to be a fun way of creating
smaller groups of closer relatives, and we photographed each House
separately.
 
We kept lists of each House by hand back then, but all have since been 
lost and re-creating them is a labor I'd rather not take on again.  BUT 
all those people are in my Legacy file, and if I could somehow permanently 
note them in a file, I'd be ecstatic.
 
I know there's one way to do it with the Address File. There are already 
blanks for name and e-mail address, and I could put the House in any of
the other fields that I don't need.  But there's no way to sort that list
and print it out except by using the Name Tag function, which doesn't
do what I need.  Or is there
 
And I don't want to use the Tags because they're not permanent markers.  
 
Is there any other way?
 
Kent Myrick
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Re: [LegacyUG] Re:SORTABLE LISTS?

[JLB]

I think this one is going right over my head.  House of / Descendants of 
- what's the difference?  Each line can be printed with an alphabetical 
listing of the names and email addresses.  It could also be exported as 
a .csv and imported into a spreadsheet (although I don't see the point) 
and then another column could be created in which to paste House of 
Whoever.  Then repeat for the other 6 lines, import all those csv's into 
the same spreadsheet, adding in House of WhoeverNext, and so on.  And 
then when it's altogether in one place, it can be sorted by columns, 
can't it?  I'm not a spreadsheet expert and frankly, can't see what they 
have to do with this issue.  If the writer of the original question 
could pop back in here (haven't heard from him in awhile) and tell us 
what the point is that might help.  If he wants a listing of names and 
email addresses for his various Houses (I think that was the question) 
it's been covered.


JL
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ronald ferguson wrote:

Maybe, but the sort type wasn't mentioned and from the content it looked to me 
like by names not by order of descent.


Ron Ferguson

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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:34:24 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Re:SORTABLE LISTS?

If it's a matter of sorting by 'houses' wouldn't it work just as well to
create a list for each house? In other words, each descendant line. I
don't know what the point is after that, but the seven separate
documents could be pieced together if they all needed to be put into one.

"House of whoever" doesn't need to be in a column as that would be the
header for each document.

JL
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ronald ferguson wrote:


JL

What you are saying is correct but as I read Kent's email he wanted the option to sort 
and the "House of David" in another column. I cannot see how this can be done 
using your method.

Ron Ferguson

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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:17:41 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Re:SORTABLE LISTS?

You can also search all the descendants at once or one line at a time,
set up the columns you want in Print Options and export the file as .csv
that can be imported into a spreadsheet. You've got all kinds of
options here and it shouldn't take long at all.

JL
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JLB wrote:



My first answer has not come through and maybe it isn't going to. I
don't think it's complicated at all and yes, Legacy can do it.

Search each of the seven siblings, one at a time, using Miscellaneous
Search and print out the list you want using the Print Options in the
Name List. It sounds like you want names, email addresses and "House
of". "House of" would be your title for each print out. Under
Customize choose name and email address and blank the rest of the
columns.

JL
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http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/jlog.html

Myrick wrote:

  

I know this isn't the kind of thing Legacy is set up for, but I was
sort of
hoping there might be some "back door" way of doing it!

Oh well. Yes, I know how to do it with a spreadsheet, and have
done it
with Word Perfect before. I just don't WANT to do it again, since I'd
have to re-type all those names that are already in Legacy.

Thanks Ron.

Kent Myrick



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*From:* ronald ferguson
*To:* legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com

*Sent:* Friday, March 21, 2008 11:30 AM
*Subject:* RE: [LegacyUG] Re:SORTABLE LISTS?


Kent,

I don't know a way of doing that in Legacy and I suspect you would
need at least a spreadsheet to do it rather than I would processor
(although I have not thought that through). The free database
which I will be putting on my fergys.co website at the end of this
month will do it.


Ron Ferguson


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RE: [LegacyUG] Re:SORTABLE LISTS?

[ronald ferguson]

Maybe, but the sort type wasn't mentioned and from the content it looked to me 
like by names not by order of descent.


Ron Ferguson

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> Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:34:24 -0700
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Re:SORTABLE LISTS?
>
> If it's a matter of sorting by 'houses' wouldn't it work just as well to
> create a list for each house? In other words, each descendant line. I
> don't know what the point is after that, but the seven separate
> documents could be pieced together if they all needed to be put into one.
>
> "House of whoever" doesn't need to be in a column as that would be the
> header for each document.
>
> JL
> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
> http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/jlog.html
>
> ronald ferguson wrote:
>>
>> JL
>>
>> What you are saying is correct but as I read Kent's email he wanted the 
>> option to sort and the "House of David" in another column. I cannot see how 
>> this can be done using your method.
>>
>> Ron Ferguson
>>
>> _
>>
>> For Genealogy, Software and Social visit:
>> http://www.fergys.co.uk
>> New Blog: Open Legacy Family File with Open Office
>> View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
>> For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
>> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
>> _
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:17:41 -0700
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Re:SORTABLE LISTS?
>>>
>>> You can also search all the descendants at once or one line at a time,
>>> set up the columns you want in Print Options and export the file as .csv
>>> that can be imported into a spreadsheet. You've got all kinds of
>>> options here and it shouldn't take long at all.
>>>
>>> JL
>>> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
>>> http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/jlog.html
>>>
>>> JLB wrote:
>>>
 My first answer has not come through and maybe it isn't going to. I
 don't think it's complicated at all and yes, Legacy can do it.

 Search each of the seven siblings, one at a time, using Miscellaneous
 Search and print out the list you want using the Print Options in the
 Name List. It sounds like you want names, email addresses and "House
 of". "House of" would be your title for each print out. Under
 Customize choose name and email address and blank the rest of the
 columns.

 JL
 JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
 http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/jlog.html

 Myrick wrote:

> I know this isn't the kind of thing Legacy is set up for, but I was
> sort of
> hoping there might be some "back door" way of doing it!
>
> Oh well. Yes, I know how to do it with a spreadsheet, and have
> done it
> with Word Perfect before. I just don't WANT to do it again, since I'd
> have to re-type all those names that are already in Legacy.
>
> Thanks Ron.
>
> Kent Myrick
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* ronald ferguson
> *To:* legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>
> *Sent:* Friday, March 21, 2008 11:30 AM
> *Subject:* RE: [LegacyUG] Re:SORTABLE LISTS?
>
>
> Kent,
>
> I don't know a way of doing that in Legacy and I suspect you would
> need at least a spreadsheet to do it rather than I would processor
> (although I have not thought that through). The free database
> which I will be putting on my fergys.co website at the end of this
> month will do it.
>
>
> Ron Ferguson
>
>
> _
>
> For Genealogy, Software and Social visit:
> http://www.fergys.co.uk
> New Blog: Open Legacy Family File with Open Office
> View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
> For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
>
> _
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Re:SORTABLE LISTS?
> Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 10:59:52 -0700
>
>
>
>
>
> Is there any kind of report (file) Legacy can make that will show
> simple
>

Re: [LegacyUG] Re:SORTABLE LISTS?

[JLB]

If it's a matter of sorting by 'houses' wouldn't it work just as well to 
create a list for each house?  In other words, each descendant line.  I 
don't know what the point is after that, but the seven separate 
documents could be pieced together if they all needed to be put into one. 

"House of whoever" doesn't need to be in a column as that would be the 
header for each document.


JL
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/jlog.html

ronald ferguson wrote:


JL

What you are saying is correct but as I read Kent's email he wanted the option to sort 
and the "House of David" in another column. I cannot see how this can be done 
using your method.

Ron Ferguson

_

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New Blog: Open Legacy Family File with Open Office
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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:17:41 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Re:SORTABLE LISTS?

You can also search all the descendants at once or one line at a time,
set up the columns you want in Print Options and export the file as .csv
that can be imported into a spreadsheet. You've got all kinds of
options here and it shouldn't take long at all.

JL
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/jlog.html

JLB wrote:


My first answer has not come through and maybe it isn't going to. I
don't think it's complicated at all and yes, Legacy can do it.

Search each of the seven siblings, one at a time, using Miscellaneous
Search and print out the list you want using the Print Options in the
Name List. It sounds like you want names, email addresses and "House
of". "House of" would be your title for each print out. Under
Customize choose name and email address and blank the rest of the
columns.

JL
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/jlog.html

Myrick wrote:
  

I know this isn't the kind of thing Legacy is set up for, but I was
sort of
hoping there might be some "back door" way of doing it!

Oh well. Yes, I know how to do it with a spreadsheet, and have
done it
with Word Perfect before. I just don't WANT to do it again, since I'd
have to re-type all those names that are already in Legacy.

Thanks Ron.

Kent Myrick



- Original Message -
*From:* ronald ferguson 
*To:* legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com


*Sent:* Friday, March 21, 2008 11:30 AM
*Subject:* RE: [LegacyUG] Re:SORTABLE LISTS?


Kent,

I don't know a way of doing that in Legacy and I suspect you would
need at least a spreadsheet to do it rather than I would processor
(although I have not thought that through). The free database
which I will be putting on my fergys.co website at the end of this
month will do it.


Ron Ferguson


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com


Subject: [LegacyUG] Re:SORTABLE LISTS?
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 10:59:52 -0700





Is there any kind of report (file) Legacy can make that will show
simple

line items, such as:



Kent Myrick House of David E-mail address



I need to be able to sort the file. I can do it in a word
processor file,

but it would really simplify things for me if Legacy can do it
somehow.



Why? Several years ago we had a Frazier family reunion. Our
immigrant

ancestor had 7 children, and just for fun, we divided the group
up by

their names, e.g. "House of David", "House of Isaac" and so
on. We had

name tags and a hand-drawn chart showing each House and the members

of each who were at the reunion. It turned out to be a fun way of
creating

smaller groups of closer relatives, and we photographed each House

separately.



We kept lists of each House by hand back then, but all have since
been

lost and re-creating them is a labor I'd rather not take on
again. BUT

all those people are in my Legacy file, and if I could somehow
permanently

note them in a file, I'd be ecstatic.



I know there's one way to do it with the Address File. There are
already

blanks for name and e-mail address, and I could put the House in
any of

the other fields that I don't need. But there's no way to sort
that list

and print it out except by using the Name Tag function, which
doesn't

do what I need. Or is there



And 

Re: [LegacyUG] creating a notes event ... good idea or no?

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

It is a tough question. IMHO, the main programs can
handle that stuff, in their own way, but identifying
which ones don't, is harder. And those users might be
better served switching to one of the big ones (I vote
for Legacy) if that person is able to do so.
Rich in LA CA

--- Mary Fowler Leek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I would like to have my notes placed after each
> person on the FGS and even sometimes placed
> differently in my narrative reports. Can anyone
> think of a negative reason to handle note type
> information by placing them in a note event, rather
> than using General notes? 
> 
> The only drawback I can think of is transferring
> information to other genealogy programs. Would
> anyone know, are there any genealogy programs out
> there now that DO NOT recognize events with notes? I
> specifically remember the old FTM format wouldn't be
> able to handle long notes attached to events but I
> don't know how the newer FTM program format handles
> them now.
> 
> My thanks for your time.
> 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Re:SORTABLE LISTS?

[ronald ferguson]

JL

What you are saying is correct but as I read Kent's email he wanted the option 
to sort and the "House of David" in another column. I cannot see how this can 
be done using your method.

Ron Ferguson

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> Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:17:41 -0700
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Re:SORTABLE LISTS?
>
> You can also search all the descendants at once or one line at a time,
> set up the columns you want in Print Options and export the file as .csv
> that can be imported into a spreadsheet. You've got all kinds of
> options here and it shouldn't take long at all.
>
> JL
> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
> http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/jlog.html
>
> JLB wrote:
>> My first answer has not come through and maybe it isn't going to. I
>> don't think it's complicated at all and yes, Legacy can do it.
>>
>> Search each of the seven siblings, one at a time, using Miscellaneous
>> Search and print out the list you want using the Print Options in the
>> Name List. It sounds like you want names, email addresses and "House
>> of". "House of" would be your title for each print out. Under
>> Customize choose name and email address and blank the rest of the
>> columns.
>>
>> JL
>> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
>> http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/jlog.html
>>
>> Myrick wrote:
>>> I know this isn't the kind of thing Legacy is set up for, but I was
>>> sort of
>>> hoping there might be some "back door" way of doing it!
>>>
>>> Oh well. Yes, I know how to do it with a spreadsheet, and have
>>> done it
>>> with Word Perfect before. I just don't WANT to do it again, since I'd
>>> have to re-type all those names that are already in Legacy.
>>>
>>> Thanks Ron.
>>>
>>> Kent Myrick
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> *From:* ronald ferguson 
>>> *To:* legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>>> 
>>> *Sent:* Friday, March 21, 2008 11:30 AM
>>> *Subject:* RE: [LegacyUG] Re:SORTABLE LISTS?
>>>
>>>
>>> Kent,
>>>
>>> I don't know a way of doing that in Legacy and I suspect you would
>>> need at least a spreadsheet to do it rather than I would processor
>>> (although I have not thought that through). The free database
>>> which I will be putting on my fergys.co website at the end of this
>>> month will do it.
>>>
>>>
>>> Ron Ferguson
>>>
>>>
>>> _
>>>
>>> For Genealogy, Software and Social visit:
>>> http://www.fergys.co.uk
>>> New Blog: Open Legacy Family File with Open Office
>>> View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
>>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
>>> For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
>>> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
>>>
>>> _
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>>> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>>> 
>>> Subject: [LegacyUG] Re:SORTABLE LISTS?
>>> Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 10:59:52 -0700
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Is there any kind of report (file) Legacy can make that will show
>>> simple
>>>
>>> line items, such as:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kent Myrick House of David E-mail address
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I need to be able to sort the file. I can do it in a word
>>> processor file,
>>>
>>> but it would really simplify things for me if Legacy can do it
>>> somehow.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Why? Several years ago we had a Frazier family reunion. Our
>>> immigrant
>>>
>>> ancestor had 7 children, and just for fun, we divided the group
>>> up by
>>>
>>> their names, e.g. "House of David", "House of Isaac" and so
>>> on. We had
>>>
>>> name tags and a hand-drawn chart showing each House and the members
>>>
>>> of each who were at the reunion. It turned out to be a fun way of
>>> creating
>>>
>>> smaller groups of closer relatives, and we photographed each House
>>>
>>> separately.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We kept lists of each House by hand back then, but all have since
>>> been
>>>
>>> lost and re-creating them is a labor I'd rather not take on
>>> again. BUT
>>>
>>> all those people are in my Legacy file, and if I could somehow
>>> permanently
>>>
>>> note them in a file, I'd be ecstatic.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I know there's one way to do it with the Address File. There are
>>> already
>>>
>>> blanks for name and e-mail address, and I could put the House in
>>> any of
>>>
>>> the other fields that I don't need. But there's no way to sort
>>> that list
>>>
>>> and print it out except by using the Name Tag function, which
>>> doesn't
>>>
>>> do what I need. Or is there
>>>

RE: [LegacyUG] Backing Up Legacy Files

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

WE CAN NOT REMIND NEWBIES ENOUGH ABOUT BACKUPS, IMHO.
Although it is off topic.
Rich in LA CA
--- Steve Ayres <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> I sort of opened a can of worms by my suggestion
> about backing up, but at least I learnt some better
> ways of safe guarding data.  I have just downloaded
> the syncback program so will install this tonight
> and give it a try.  Now all I have to do is convince
> my wife that she does not need any new "fat
> quarters" and that a stand alone Hard Disk would be
> a brilliant idea, wonder how I will go.
>  
> Steve
> > Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 22:56:46 -0700> From:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:
> LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com> Subject: Re:
> [LegacyUG] Backing Up Legacy Files> > I was thinking
> - when the LDS gets all that microfilm scanned and
> online > maybe they would be amenable to renting
> storage lockers in their > underground vault. Or
> will they be keeping the backups? O, rats.> > JL>
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> http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/jlog.html> > > > 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Re:SORTABLE LISTS?

[ronald ferguson]

Kent,

Do you have Access or Open Office? If so it's easy to print from tblAR the 
Names and email addresses (from what you said I take it that you have the 
details in the Address Book btw) but *do* work on a copy. You need to make a 
query to show the AddName and  Email using the Kind field set to "=0" as the 
Criterion. If you also mean by "House of David" another column showing the 
family group to which the person belongs, then you could an extra column to 
tblAR to contain this detail and select that column as well. I would not 
suggest for one minute that you ever put this file back into Legacy though!

You could also sort by the AddName field which will basically sort by First 
Name or by AddrSort which will sort by Surname. Unfortunately you may find this 
appearing in the query table so may have to do another query of the query 
omitting that column.

Ron Ferguson

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Re:SORTABLE LISTS?
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 11:53:34 -0700





I know this isn't the kind of thing Legacy is set up for, but I was sort of

hoping there might be some "back door" way of doing it!



Oh well.  Yes, I know how to do it with a spreadsheet, and have done it

with Word Perfect before.   I just don't WANT to do it again, since I'd

have to re-type all those names that are already in Legacy.



Thanks Ron.



Kent Myrick






- Original Message -

From: ronald ferguson

To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com

Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 11:30 AM

Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Re:SORTABLE LISTS?



Kent,

I don't know a way of doing that in Legacy and I suspect you would need at 
least a spreadsheet to do it rather than I would processor (although I have not 
thought that through). The free database which I will be putting on my 
fergys.co website at the end of this month will do it.


Ron Ferguson

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New Blog: Open Legacy Family File with Open Office
View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
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For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Re:SORTABLE LISTS?
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 10:59:52 -0700





Is there any kind of report (file) Legacy can make that will show simple

line items, such as:



Kent MyrickHouse of DavidE-mail address



I need to be able to sort the file.  I can do it in a word processor file,

but it would really simplify things for me if Legacy can do it somehow.



Why?  Several years ago we had a Frazier family reunion.  Our immigrant

ancestor had 7 children, and just for fun, we divided the group up by

their names, e.g.  "House of David",   "House of Isaac"  and so on. We had

name tags and a hand-drawn chart showing each House and the members

of each who were at the reunion.  It turned out to be a fun way of creating

smaller groups of closer relatives, and we photographed each House

separately.



We kept lists of each House by hand back then, but all have since been

lost and re-creating them is a labor I'd rather not take on again.  BUT

all those people are in my Legacy file, and if I could somehow permanently

note them in a file, I'd be ecstatic.



I know there's one way to do it with the Address File. There are already

blanks for name and e-mail address, and I could put the House in any of

the other fields that I don't need.  But there's no way to sort that list

and print it out except by using the Name Tag function, which doesn't

do what I need.  Or is there



And I don't want to use the Tags because they're not permanent markers.



Is there any other way?



Kent Myrick



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Re: [LegacyUG] Re:SORTABLE LISTS?

[JLB]

You can also search all the descendants at once or one line at a time, 
set up the columns you want in Print Options and export the file as .csv 
that can be imported into a spreadsheet.  You've got all kinds of 
options here and it shouldn't take long at all.


JL
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/jlog.html

JLB wrote:
My first answer has not come through and maybe it isn't going to.  I 
don't think it's complicated at all and yes, Legacy can do it.


Search each of the seven siblings, one at a time, using Miscellaneous 
Search and print out the list you want using the Print Options in the 
Name List.  It sounds like you want names, email addresses and "House 
of".   "House of" would be your title for each print out.  Under 
Customize choose name and email address and blank the rest of the 
columns.


JL
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/jlog.html

Myrick wrote:
I know this isn't the kind of thing Legacy is set up for, but I was 
sort of

hoping there might be some "back door" way of doing it!
 
Oh well.  Yes, I know how to do it with a spreadsheet, and have 
done it

with Word Perfect before.   I just don't WANT to do it again, since I'd
have to re-type all those names that are already in Legacy.
 
Thanks Ron.
 
Kent Myrick
 
 


- Original Message -
*From:* ronald ferguson 
*To:* legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com

*Sent:* Friday, March 21, 2008 11:30 AM
*Subject:* RE: [LegacyUG] Re:SORTABLE LISTS?


Kent,

I don't know a way of doing that in Legacy and I suspect you would
need at least a spreadsheet to do it rather than I would processor
(although I have not thought that through). The free database
which I will be putting on my fergys.co website at the end of this
month will do it.


Ron Ferguson


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For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com

Subject: [LegacyUG] Re:SORTABLE LISTS?
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 10:59:52 -0700





Is there any kind of report (file) Legacy can make that will show
simple

line items, such as:



Kent MyrickHouse of DavidE-mail address



I need to be able to sort the file.  I can do it in a word
processor file,

but it would really simplify things for me if Legacy can do it
somehow.



Why?  Several years ago we had a Frazier family reunion.  Our
immigrant

ancestor had 7 children, and just for fun, we divided the group 
up by


their names, e.g.  "House of David",   "House of Isaac"  and so
on. We had

name tags and a hand-drawn chart showing each House and the members

of each who were at the reunion.  It turned out to be a fun way of
creating

smaller groups of closer relatives, and we photographed each House

separately.



We kept lists of each House by hand back then, but all have since 
been


lost and re-creating them is a labor I'd rather not take on
again.  BUT

all those people are in my Legacy file, and if I could somehow
permanently

note them in a file, I'd be ecstatic.



I know there's one way to do it with the Address File. There are
already

blanks for name and e-mail address, and I could put the House in
any of

the other fields that I don't need.  But there's no way to sort
that list

and print it out except by using the Name Tag function, which 
doesn't


do what I need.  Or is there



And I don't want to use the Tags because they're not permanent
markers.



Is there any other way?



Kent Myrick



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Re: [LegacyUG] Re:SORTABLE LISTS?

[JLB]

My first answer has not come through and maybe it isn't going to.  I 
don't think it's complicated at all and yes, Legacy can do it.


Search each of the seven siblings, one at a time, using Miscellaneous 
Search and print out the list you want using the Print Options in the 
Name List.  It sounds like you want names, email addresses and "House 
of".   "House of" would be your title for each print out.  Under 
Customize choose name and email address and blank the rest of the columns.


JL
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/jlog.html

Myrick wrote:
I know this isn't the kind of thing Legacy is set up for, but I was 
sort of

hoping there might be some "back door" way of doing it!
 
Oh well.  Yes, I know how to do it with a spreadsheet, and have 
done it

with Word Perfect before.   I just don't WANT to do it again, since I'd
have to re-type all those names that are already in Legacy.
 
Thanks Ron.
 
Kent Myrick
 
 


- Original Message -
*From:* ronald ferguson 
*To:* legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com

*Sent:* Friday, March 21, 2008 11:30 AM
*Subject:* RE: [LegacyUG] Re:SORTABLE LISTS?


Kent,

I don't know a way of doing that in Legacy and I suspect you would
need at least a spreadsheet to do it rather than I would processor
(although I have not thought that through). The free database
which I will be putting on my fergys.co website at the end of this
month will do it.


Ron Ferguson

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http://www.fergys.co.uk
New Blog: Open Legacy Family File with Open Office
View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com

Subject: [LegacyUG] Re:SORTABLE LISTS?
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 10:59:52 -0700





Is there any kind of report (file) Legacy can make that will show
simple

line items, such as:



Kent MyrickHouse of DavidE-mail address



I need to be able to sort the file.  I can do it in a word
processor file,

but it would really simplify things for me if Legacy can do it
somehow.



Why?  Several years ago we had a Frazier family reunion.  Our
immigrant

ancestor had 7 children, and just for fun, we divided the group up by

their names, e.g.  "House of David",   "House of Isaac"  and so
on. We had

name tags and a hand-drawn chart showing each House and the members

of each who were at the reunion.  It turned out to be a fun way of
creating

smaller groups of closer relatives, and we photographed each House

separately.



We kept lists of each House by hand back then, but all have since been

lost and re-creating them is a labor I'd rather not take on
again.  BUT

all those people are in my Legacy file, and if I could somehow
permanently

note them in a file, I'd be ecstatic.



I know there's one way to do it with the Address File. There are
already

blanks for name and e-mail address, and I could put the House in
any of

the other fields that I don't need.  But there's no way to sort
that list

and print it out except by using the Name Tag function, which doesn't

do what I need.  Or is there



And I don't want to use the Tags because they're not permanent
markers.



Is there any other way?



Kent Myrick



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Re: [LegacyUG] Re:SORTABLE LISTS?

[JLB]

If I understand your question:

Do a Miscellaneous Search on one line, print the list with the headers 
you want, using the Print options in the Name List.

Repeat for all the other lines.

JL
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Myrick wrote:

Is there any kind of report (file) Legacy can make that will show simple
line items, such as:
 
Kent MyrickHouse of DavidE-mail address
 
I need to be able to sort the file.  I can do it in a word processor 
file,

but it would really simplify things for me if Legacy can do it somehow.
 
Why?  Several years ago we had a Frazier family reunion.  Our immigrant

ancestor had 7 children, and just for fun, we divided the group up by
their names, e.g.  "House of David",   "House of Isaac"  and so on. We had
name tags and a hand-drawn chart showing each House and the members
of each who were at the reunion.  It turned out to be a fun way of 
creating

smaller groups of closer relatives, and we photographed each House
separately.
 
We kept lists of each House by hand back then, but all have since been

lost and re-creating them is a labor I'd rather not take on again.  BUT
all those people are in my Legacy file, and if I could somehow 
permanently

note them in a file, I'd be ecstatic.
 
I know there's one way to do it with the Address File. There are already

blanks for name and e-mail address, and I could put the House in any of
the other fields that I don't need.  But there's no way to sort that list
and print it out except by using the Name Tag function, which doesn't
do what I need.  Or is there
 
And I don't want to use the Tags because they're not permanent markers. 
 
Is there any other way?
 
Kent Myrick


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Re: [LegacyUG] Re:SORTABLE LISTS?

[Myrick]

I know this isn't the kind of thing Legacy is set up for, but I was sort of
hoping there might be some "back door" way of doing it!

Oh well.  Yes, I know how to do it with a spreadsheet, and have done it
with Word Perfect before.   I just don't WANT to do it again, since I'd
have to re-type all those names that are already in Legacy.

Thanks Ron.

Kent Myrick


  - Original Message - 
  From: ronald ferguson 
  To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 11:30 AM
  Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Re:SORTABLE LISTS?



  Kent,

  I don't know a way of doing that in Legacy and I suspect you would need at 
least a spreadsheet to do it rather than I would processor (although I have not 
thought that through). The free database which I will be putting on my 
fergys.co website at the end of this month will do it.


  Ron Ferguson

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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
  Subject: [LegacyUG] Re:SORTABLE LISTS?
  Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 10:59:52 -0700





  Is there any kind of report (file) Legacy can make that will show simple

  line items, such as:



  Kent MyrickHouse of DavidE-mail address



  I need to be able to sort the file.  I can do it in a word processor file,

  but it would really simplify things for me if Legacy can do it somehow.



  Why?  Several years ago we had a Frazier family reunion.  Our immigrant

  ancestor had 7 children, and just for fun, we divided the group up by

  their names, e.g.  "House of David",   "House of Isaac"  and so on. We had

  name tags and a hand-drawn chart showing each House and the members

  of each who were at the reunion.  It turned out to be a fun way of creating

  smaller groups of closer relatives, and we photographed each House

  separately.



  We kept lists of each House by hand back then, but all have since been

  lost and re-creating them is a labor I'd rather not take on again.  BUT

  all those people are in my Legacy file, and if I could somehow permanently

  note them in a file, I'd be ecstatic.



  I know there's one way to do it with the Address File. There are already

  blanks for name and e-mail address, and I could put the House in any of

  the other fields that I don't need.  But there's no way to sort that list

  and print it out except by using the Name Tag function, which doesn't

  do what I need.  Or is there



  And I don't want to use the Tags because they're not permanent markers.



  Is there any other way?



  Kent Myrick



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RE: [LegacyUG] Re:SORTABLE LISTS?

[ronald ferguson]

Kent,

I don't know a way of doing that in Legacy and I suspect you would need at 
least a spreadsheet to do it rather than I would processor (although I have not 
thought that through). The free database which I will be putting on my 
fergys.co website at the end of this month will do it.


Ron Ferguson

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Re:SORTABLE LISTS?
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 10:59:52 -0700





Is there any kind of report (file) Legacy can make that will show simple

line items, such as:



Kent MyrickHouse of DavidE-mail address



I need to be able to sort the file.  I can do it in a word processor file,

but it would really simplify things for me if Legacy can do it somehow.



Why?  Several years ago we had a Frazier family reunion.  Our immigrant

ancestor had 7 children, and just for fun, we divided the group up by

their names, e.g.  "House of David",   "House of Isaac"  and so on. We had

name tags and a hand-drawn chart showing each House and the members

of each who were at the reunion.  It turned out to be a fun way of creating

smaller groups of closer relatives, and we photographed each House

separately.



We kept lists of each House by hand back then, but all have since been

lost and re-creating them is a labor I'd rather not take on again.  BUT

all those people are in my Legacy file, and if I could somehow permanently

note them in a file, I'd be ecstatic.



I know there's one way to do it with the Address File. There are already

blanks for name and e-mail address, and I could put the House in any of

the other fields that I don't need.  But there's no way to sort that list

and print it out except by using the Name Tag function, which doesn't

do what I need.  Or is there



And I don't want to use the Tags because they're not permanent markers.



Is there any other way?



Kent Myrick



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[LegacyUG] Re:SORTABLE LISTS?

[Myrick]

Is there any kind of report (file) Legacy can make that will show simple
line items, such as:

Kent MyrickHouse of DavidE-mail address

I need to be able to sort the file.  I can do it in a word processor file, 
but it would really simplify things for me if Legacy can do it somehow.

Why?  Several years ago we had a Frazier family reunion.  Our immigrant
ancestor had 7 children, and just for fun, we divided the group up by
their names, e.g.  "House of David",   "House of Isaac"  and so on. We had
name tags and a hand-drawn chart showing each House and the members
of each who were at the reunion.  It turned out to be a fun way of creating
smaller groups of closer relatives, and we photographed each House
separately.

We kept lists of each House by hand back then, but all have since been 
lost and re-creating them is a labor I'd rather not take on again.  BUT 
all those people are in my Legacy file, and if I could somehow permanently 
note them in a file, I'd be ecstatic.

I know there's one way to do it with the Address File. There are already 
blanks for name and e-mail address, and I could put the House in any of
the other fields that I don't need.  But there's no way to sort that list
and print it out except by using the Name Tag function, which doesn't
do what I need.  Or is there

And I don't want to use the Tags because they're not permanent markers.  

Is there any other way?

Kent Myrick




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[LegacyUG] creating a notes event ... good idea or no?

[Mary Fowler Leek]

I would like to have my notes placed after each person on the FGS and even 
sometimes placed differently in my narrative reports. Can anyone think of a 
negative reason to handle note type information by placing them in a note 
event, rather than using General notes? 

The only drawback I can think of is transferring information to other genealogy 
programs. Would anyone know, are there any genealogy programs out there now 
that DO NOT recognize events with notes? I specifically remember the old FTM 
format wouldn't be able to handle long notes attached to events but I don't 
know how the newer FTM program format handles them now.

My thanks for your time.

Mary






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Re: [LegacyUG] Backing Up Legacy Files

[Al Mallory]

I get false virus detected warnings when I try to email backups to
myself. Gmail has stopped accepting the xxx.fg file and I have to
delete it before sending.

It is unlikely that your files became infected while on the email
server, so you are probably OK if you can download the files.

Mcafee offers a free virus detection application to scan for virus' -
you could try this --

http://vil.nai.com/vil/stinger/

For ongoing protection there is AVG - a free application that has
fairly low overhead --

http://free.grisoft.com/doc/2/lng/us/tpl/v5

Al




On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 9:26 AM, Roxanne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My experience: I sent regular updates to myself via email. Thought I was
> covered. My computer died last August, and I've just now gotten another one.
> Went to retrieve my info from my email account, when 3 out of 4 files read,
> "Virus Detected"!
>
> My current unit doesn't have an anti-virus program (no room) so I can't
> clean my files. Looks like my work is lost. My only recourse is to download
> my own GEDCOMs from Rootsweb. Still, I'll be missing info for living people.
>
> Roxanne Baird
> Chattanooga, TN
>
>
> Paul Underwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  In addition to backups to my c: drive, I send a weekly email attachment to
> my children of the backup .zip file, with a copy to another email account of
> mine.
>
>
>
>
>
>  
> Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Backing Up Legacy Files

[Roxanne]

My experience: I sent regular updates to myself via email. Thought I was 
covered. My computer died last August, and I've just now gotten another one. 
Went to retrieve my info from my email account, when 3 out of 4 files read, 
"Virus Detected"! 

My current unit doesn't have an anti-virus program (no room) so I can't clean 
my files. Looks like my work is lost. My only recourse is to download my own 
GEDCOMs from Rootsweb. Still, I'll be missing info for living people.

Roxanne Baird
Chattanooga, TN

Paul Underwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:.hmmessage P { margin:0px; 
padding:0px } body.hmmessage { FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma }   In 
addition to backups to my c: drive, I send a weekly email attachment to my 
children of the backup .zip file, with a copy to another email account of mine. 
  



   
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Re: [LegacyUG] Backing Up Legacy Files

[Joseph]

Of course we forgot the possibility of the complete annihilation of the 
universe   I wonder where I could store it all so I can get my 
backup after such an occurrence?  


I love your sense of humor, John.  Thanks for the chuckle this morning.

Joseph


John Carter wrote:

As much as we might want to protect information, the best of intentions
can't cover everything - the Library at Alexandria held the world's
knowledge (at the time) but much of it was lost over the centuries.

Maybe there's a market for storage vaults on Mars?  There would some delay
in acquiring the backup, but it is definitely off-site ;-)

John

  

Are you also able to keep them away from the risk of fire, flood,
earthquake, hurricane, tornado, tsunami, war, pestilence, comet striking
the earth... ?

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Brian Lightfoot wrote:


I still have a very old hard drive left over from the first 486 that I
built. It is now used on a Win98 computer for the grandkids with games
only
on it. The holds a whopping 110 megabytes.

Yes, folks, while technology is getting better, manufacturing practices
certainly aren't. I've said this before: we still have the original
photographs around that were taken in the Civil War. Your BEST archival
method for your family files is a hard copy print out on acid-free paper
and
stored properly. Then you don't have to worry about technological
changes,
bit rot, magnetism, or alien abductions.

Brian


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John
Carter
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 7:58 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Backing Up Legacy Files

It very much depends on the brand and model.  In the past six months
I've
recovered data (for other people) from a 3 year old Western Digital IDE
drive (not bootable) and an 18 month old Samsung SATA drive (bad sectors
and not bootable).  These were both desktop PCs, so not subject to the
mechanical abuse that laptops receive.  On the other hand, I have an
ancient laptop that runs almost 24/7 on a drive that was used and of
unknown age when installed 3 years ago.

Thinking "no-years" leads to good backup practices ;-)

John


  

I heard 5 years, then I heard 2 years, then some-one told me they'd had
disks go bad in under one year.  I'm down to thinking no-years.  I
think
it's one of those things where if it works - great!  If it doesn't,
good
thing I had another plan.   I use external hard-drives, flash-drives,
online storage (Mozy) and email.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Backing Up Legacy Files

[Steve Ayres]

I sort of opened a can of worms by my suggestion about backing up, but at least 
I learnt some better ways of safe guarding data.  I have just downloaded the 
syncback program so will install this tonight and give it a try.  Now all I 
have to do is convince my wife that she does not need any new "fat quarters" 
and that a stand alone Hard Disk would be a brilliant idea, wonder how I will 
go.
 
Steve
> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 22:56:46 -0700> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 
> LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Backing Up 
> Legacy Files> > I was thinking - when the LDS gets all that microfilm scanned 
> and online > maybe they would be amenable to renting storage lockers in their 
> > underground vault. Or will they be keeping the backups? O, rats.> > JL> 
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