Re: [LegacyUG] living again

[Evert van Dijken]

Yes, according to the Help Legacy will only look at ancestors to determine
if someone is dead when you use the Advanced Set Living from the Tools menu.
So if you have a descendant who died 100 years ago all of his ancestors will
have Living set to No as well.
If someone was married 150 years ago he must be dead by now I suppose. So if
Legacy doesn't Set Living to No for this individual this might be a bug. If
it's not a bug Legacy staff might see this as a "Suggest a new feature".
Evert



2009/10/9 Michele Lewis 

> I did everything y'all to do but the program is still killing people that
> are long dead.  If someone married in 1821 there is no way they could be
> alive but Legacy is marking them as living unless I manually kill them off.
> I have tagged everyone in my file that is marked as living that doesn't have
> a birth date and I am killing them off one at a time.  I only have 2000 more
> to check!
>
> Maybe Legacy can add some additional parameters for automatically killing
> people off.  If a person was married 100 years ago or more he is probably
> dead.  If his mother died over 100 years ago he is probably dead etc.
>
> The problem is that my uploaded file on the internet has 1/3 of the people
> marked as living so my file isn't very helpful to anyone.
>
> michele
>
> - Original Message - From: "Eileen" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 5:53 PM
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Master l Source is messing up
>
>
> Well I just hate to write again about anything to do with Legacy, I have
>> not
>> done anymore updates for fear of some unknown happening.  I'm on version
>> 7.0.090 and have used the program since version 4.
>>
>> I have been updating all my families with their 1850 census, I go to the
>> Master Source List, go to Source, open the file and go down the list
>> checking everything that shows it has a 1850 census.  Ask it to show me
>> the
>> list, to make sure all are checked with a number 2, close it and go to the
>> next one.
>>
>> I have come on a group under Indiana, Clay Co., Van Buren Twp., - 1850 and
>> the next on the list is the same everything except it's a 1860.  These two
>> list has 18 people, All eighteen have both the 1850 census and the 1860
>> census.
>>
>> All of the people on both these lists have 1850 census and 1860 census on
>> their family screens, all information shows correct, all sources show
>> correct, but on the Master list, only half of them (11) show on 1850 list
>> and (7) show on the  1860.
>>
>> So I went through all the 1860 deleted the old 1860 from the Events list,
>> re-added it and everything on my Master Source list finally showed up just
>> right, all on both the 1850 & 1860 lists.
>>
>> Shut the program down, since I was almost sick thinking of all I was going
>> to have to change when I finally felt up to it.  Some hours have gone bye,
>> open up the program, went right to the Master Source and guess what half
>> is
>> on the 1850 and half are on the 1860. Right back to where they were before
>> all the work deleting and adding the census again.   What in the world is
>> happening?  Can I sent attachments so you can look at the papers I printed
>> out?  It might help you understand what I'm writing.
>>
>> I know I don't seem to be able to explain things clearly so staff can
>> understand what I telling them.  But this is a mess and I afraid to check
>> anymore files but know that there are more errors.
>>
>> Pleae help as soon as possible
>> thanks
>> Eileen
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] How would you add this event?

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

This was a case of finalizing a grant. Military land, and all US land was 
awarded in a four part process. First a person would recieve a warrant which 
allowed him to request a surveyor to go out and define/set boundaries for a 
piece of land the size of the grant (or he would pay for it). The 
Surveyor would do as many as he could each day, putting them next to each 
other. (and use rocks, rivers and trees carved in for borders.) He described 
the boundaries using compass directions and lengths of chain, from the above 
rocks etc. His land had already finished most of the process, so you might want 
to find the other documents described above, and package all it into the 
'deed'  file. Send to me privately for more assistance if desired.
Rich in LA CA


- Original Message 
From: Michele Lewis 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2009 3:03:16 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How would you add this event?

Silas appeared in front of the Magistrate with witnesses who stated under oath 
that they could swear that this Silas Simmons was the one that served in the 
War of 1812.  There was a hold out on the issuance of his bounty land because 
there were TWO Silas Simmons',  He had to come to court and prove who he was 
before they would release the land.

michele

- Original Message - From: "Ron Ferguson" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How would you add this event?


> Michele Lewis wrote:
>>> My ggg grandfather appeared in court on 08 Nov 1851.  He was there
>>> to prove that he was the Silas Simmons that fought in the War of
>>> 1812 and was at the Battle of New Orleans so that he would be
>>> entitled to bounty land (there was another Silas Simmons in the area
>>> so he went to court to prove he was who he said he was).
>>> 
>>> I am trying to figure out what the best way to title this event.
>>> Affidavit? (that is what the document it).  Court Appearance (that
>>> one just sounds strange).  This document isn't a deed.  I don't know
>>> what I should title the event.  Any suggestions?
>>> 
>>> I want it to be an event so that I can show the progession of all
>>> the events of his life in order of dates.  (one of the reasons I
>>> like Legacy).
>>> 
>>> michele
>>> 
> 
> Michele,
> 
> I don't wish to sound pedantic, but you do not acrtually tell us what the
> document is, nor what it is about. It could be an oath (Affidavit) sworn by
> him, in which case it was clearly contested, it could be a defendants
> summons to court, a plaintiff's application to the court, the judgement of
> the court and so forth. One should simply call the document what it is!
> 
> The suggestion in your other post re. type of source seems reasonable, for
> what you have described and the Event could be the name of the court. I have
> some Events such as Coroner's Court, Westmorland Quarter Sessions etc.,
> Description: the type of case - this is usually on the Court Documents, Date
> and Place are obvious.
> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] living again

[Evert van Dijken]

But you also have to click the Apply... button otherwise Legacy will only do
this for new entered individuals.
Evert

2009/10/9 Kramer 

> Michele, go to Tools>Advanced Set Living.  It will mark everyone who could
> possibly be dead as dead depending on what you have set such as the 120
> years.
> Legacy marks it already so you don't have to go through all the trouble.
>
> Ellen Kramer
>
> Researching and loving Dorman, Kramer, Mirarchi, Procopio, Renninger and
> Staudt-Stoudt-Stout families
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Oct 8, 2009, at 7:07 PM, Michele Lewis wrote:
>
> I did everything y'all to do but the program is still killing people that
>> are long dead.  If someone married in 1821 there is no way they could be
>> alive but Legacy is marking them as living unless I manually kill them off.
>> I have tagged everyone in my file that is marked as living that doesn't have
>> a birth date and I am killing them off one at a time.  I only have 2000 more
>> to check!
>>
>> Maybe Legacy can add some additional parameters for automatically killing
>> people off.  If a person was married 100 years ago or more he is probably
>> dead.  If his mother died over 100 years ago he is probably dead etc.
>>
>> The problem is that my uploaded file on the internet has 1/3 of the people
>> marked as living so my file isn't very helpful to anyone.
>>
>> michele
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "Eileen" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 5:53 PM
>> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Master l Source is messing up
>>
>>
>> Well I just hate to write again about anything to do with Legacy, I have
>>> not
>>> done anymore updates for fear of some unknown happening.  I'm on version
>>> 7.0.090 and have used the program since version 4.
>>>
>>> I have been updating all my families with their 1850 census, I go to the
>>> Master Source List, go to Source, open the file and go down the list
>>> checking everything that shows it has a 1850 census.  Ask it to show me
>>> the
>>> list, to make sure all are checked with a number 2, close it and go to
>>> the
>>> next one.
>>>
>>> I have come on a group under Indiana, Clay Co., Van Buren Twp., - 1850
>>> and
>>> the next on the list is the same everything except it's a 1860.  These
>>> two
>>> list has 18 people, All eighteen have both the 1850 census and the 1860
>>> census.
>>>
>>> All of the people on both these lists have 1850 census and 1860 census on
>>> their family screens, all information shows correct, all sources show
>>> correct, but on the Master list, only half of them (11) show on 1850 list
>>> and (7) show on the  1860.
>>>
>>> So I went through all the 1860 deleted the old 1860 from the Events list,
>>> re-added it and everything on my Master Source list finally showed up
>>> just
>>> right, all on both the 1850 & 1860 lists.
>>>
>>> Shut the program down, since I was almost sick thinking of all I was
>>> going
>>> to have to change when I finally felt up to it.  Some hours have gone
>>> bye,
>>> open up the program, went right to the Master Source and guess what half
>>> is
>>> on the 1850 and half are on the 1860. Right back to where they were
>>> before
>>> all the work deleting and adding the census again.   What in the world is
>>> happening?  Can I sent attachments so you can look at the papers I
>>> printed
>>> out?  It might help you understand what I'm writing.
>>>
>>> I know I don't seem to be able to explain things clearly so staff can
>>> understand what I telling them.  But this is a mess and I afraid to check
>>> anymore files but know that there are more errors.
>>>
>>> Pleae help as soon as possible
>>> thanks
>>> Eileen
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Publishing Center - Maintaining Selected Font and including sources

[Valerie Laskowski]

That's because the Source options have now been moved to the "Additional"
tab->Source Options for the Book (it's the second tab after Contents).  All
of the items in your book will use the Source settings selected from the
"Additional" tab ->Source Options.
Valerie

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Of Judy
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 5:00 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Publishing Center - Maintaining Selected Font and
including sources

Is anyone else having a problem with customizing the font in a book created 
in the Publishing Center?  I have a specific font selected in the 
Descendant/Ancestor individual Report Options, and for a Multiple Lines of 
Descent Report, but it will not "transfer" to the settings in the Publishing

Center.

Selecting "Edit Settings For Current Chapter" shows the font I have chosen, 
but the font is incorrect in the print preview, when the report is done 
through the Publishing Center.  Individual Descendant/Ancestor reports, done

outside of the Publishing Center, preview with the correct font.

Additionally, in the Publishing Center, a Multiple Lines of Descent Report 
does not allow for the printing of sources - the entire "Sources" tab is 
grayed out.  Sources are allowed, however, when creating a Multiple Lines of

Descent Report outside of the Publishing Center.

Version: 7.0.0.109

File maintenance - done.

Reboot system - done.

Reset and select specific fonts - done.

Anyone have any other suggestions?

Judy




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RE: [LegacyUG] MRIN troubles

[Valerie Laskowski]

Try Tools->Renumber RIN's and then the Marriage RIN options.
Valerie

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Of Nancy
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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] MRIN troubles

Hello all,
Awhile ago I imported a gedcom from somewhere (I think FamilySearch). It 
wasn't until recently that I discovered that the MRIN's imported were 8 
digit numbers and all subsequent MRINs generated by Legacy were 8 digits. 
I've corrected all those so that they are in sequence with the rest of my 
families BUT Legacy still generates 8 digit MRINs when I create a new 
marriage. What do I need to do to stop it?

I have the most recent version of Legacy Deluxe 7.0.0.109.

Thanks,
Nancy





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Re: [LegacyUG] no name people

[Kathy Shiell-Stokes]

Jane: For some people for whom I have no name I have put their 
relationship to known people within privacy brackets[[]]. That way 
they print as a blank on any reports but I can still tell who they are.
i wind up with a record that says(for example) Joe Blow m [[mother of 
Mary Blow]]. Once I discover a name, I remove the privacy brackets 
and enter the name. In the mean time I don't have 35,000 blank names 
in my database. It makes merging so much nicer and less problematic.

Kathy
At 11:00 AM 10/8/2009, you wrote:
I need to put parents, whose names I do not yet know, into my Legacy 
program, so that I can get my ancestor and all her siblings together 
as a family.  I have put in "Mystery Mayo" for the unknown father, 
but, since I don't know either the surname or given name of his 
wife, I can't think how to input it.  Advice?


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Re: [LegacyUG] living again

[Kramer]

Michele, go to Tools>Advanced Set Living.  It will mark everyone who  
could possibly be dead as dead depending on what you have set such as  
the 120 years.

Legacy marks it already so you don't have to go through all the trouble.

Ellen Kramer

Researching and loving Dorman, Kramer, Mirarchi, Procopio, Renninger  
and Staudt-Stoudt-Stout families







On Oct 8, 2009, at 7:07 PM, Michele Lewis wrote:

I did everything y'all to do but the program is still killing people  
that are long dead.  If someone married in 1821 there is no way they  
could be alive but Legacy is marking them as living unless I  
manually kill them off. I have tagged everyone in my file that is  
marked as living that doesn't have a birth date and I am killing  
them off one at a time.  I only have 2000 more to check!


Maybe Legacy can add some additional parameters for automatically  
killing people off.  If a person was married 100 years ago or more  
he is probably dead.  If his mother died over 100 years ago he is  
probably dead etc.


The problem is that my uploaded file on the internet has 1/3 of the  
people marked as living so my file isn't very helpful to anyone.


michele

- Original Message - From: "Eileen" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 5:53 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Master l Source is messing up


Well I just hate to write again about anything to do with Legacy, I  
have not
done anymore updates for fear of some unknown happening.  I'm on  
version

7.0.090 and have used the program since version 4.

I have been updating all my families with their 1850 census, I go  
to the

Master Source List, go to Source, open the file and go down the list
checking everything that shows it has a 1850 census.  Ask it to  
show me the
list, to make sure all are checked with a number 2, close it and go  
to the

next one.

I have come on a group under Indiana, Clay Co., Van Buren Twp., -  
1850 and
the next on the list is the same everything except it's a 1860.   
These two
list has 18 people, All eighteen have both the 1850 census and the  
1860

census.

All of the people on both these lists have 1850 census and 1860  
census on

their family screens, all information shows correct, all sources show
correct, but on the Master list, only half of them (11) show on  
1850 list

and (7) show on the  1860.

So I went through all the 1860 deleted the old 1860 from the Events  
list,
re-added it and everything on my Master Source list finally showed  
up just

right, all on both the 1850 & 1860 lists.

Shut the program down, since I was almost sick thinking of all I  
was going
to have to change when I finally felt up to it.  Some hours have  
gone bye,
open up the program, went right to the Master Source and guess what  
half is
on the 1850 and half are on the 1860. Right back to where they were  
before
all the work deleting and adding the census again.   What in the  
world is
happening?  Can I sent attachments so you can look at the papers I  
printed

out?  It might help you understand what I'm writing.

I know I don't seem to be able to explain things clearly so staff can
understand what I telling them.  But this is a mess and I afraid to  
check

anymore files but know that there are more errors.

Pleae help as soon as possible
thanks
Eileen





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Re: [LegacyUG] Tagging people question

[Carl Cox]

<>

I have noticed the same thing, except that I just put up with the 
aggravation without checking the cause. That should be easy to fix. I vote 
to put it on the list of things to be done. (There are several other things 
with a higher priority, however.)


Carl





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Re: [LegacyUG] Here is a good example

[Ron Ferguson]

Michele Lewis wrote:

I have a married couple that are both marked as living.  Their son
was born in 1847.  I think that Legacy should be able to say that
his parents are dead.

michele





Michele,

The method which I have previously described *does* work for everybody in 
the database, why it is not working for you I can't imagine.


If you would like to send me your back-up file off list I will happily have 
a look for you. It is almost 3-00am here so it will be about 5 hours before 
I will look at it. Don't forget to send off-list.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Here is a good example

[Ron Ferguson]

Jim,

I don't understand what you are saying here. If somebody has a date in the 
death, no matter what their age at death then the living flag will already be 
set to "No". Advanced set living only sets this flag.

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Jim Walton 
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: 09 October 2009 01:56
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Here is a good example


  When you go to Options->Customize->Data Entry to set the age you want them to 
be presumed dead, you must then hit the Apply button. This will go through your 
database and mark everyone over the selected age as dead unless they have a 
date in the death field. So, if you decide to mark everyone over 100 as dead, 
and you have an ancester who lived to 102, Legacy will leave that one record 
alone, but mark everyone else dead at age 100.

  It is important that you hit the Apply button to change your database.

  Jim



  On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 8:10 AM, Michele Lewis  
wrote:

I have a married couple that are both marked as living.  Their son was born 
in 1847.  I think that Legacy should be able to say that his parents are dead.

michele 



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Re: [LegacyUG] MRIN troubles

[Dennis M . Kowallek]

On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 21:21:17 -0400, "Nancy" 
wrote:

>Awhile ago I imported a gedcom from somewhere (I think FamilySearch). It 
>wasn't until recently that I discovered that the MRIN's imported were 8 
>digit numbers and all subsequent MRINs generated by Legacy were 8 digits. 
>I've corrected all those so that they are in sequence with the rest of my 
>families BUT Legacy still generates 8 digit MRINs when I create a new 
>marriage. What do I need to do to stop it?

One way is to run the following UPDATE query in MS Access (or other
tool)...

UPDATE tblMR SET tblMR.IDTRSeal = (DMax('IDMR','tblMR') + 1) WHERE
(tblMR.IDMR=0)

Another way might be to export your database to another Legacy database,
telling the export to renumber the MRINs (I haven't tried this).

Exporting to a GEDCOM and importing that back into another Legacy
database while renumbering the MRINs will probably also work.
 
-- 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Here is a good example

[Jim Walton]

When you go to Options->Customize->Data Entry to set the age you want them
to be presumed dead, you must then hit the Apply button. This will go
through your database and mark everyone over the selected age as dead unless
they have a date in the death field. So, if you decide to mark everyone over
100 as dead, and you have an ancester who lived to 102, Legacy will leave
that one record alone, but mark everyone else dead at age 100.

It is important that you hit the Apply button to change your database.

Jim


On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 8:10 AM, Michele Lewis wrote:

> I have a married couple that are both marked as living.  Their son was born
> in 1847.  I think that Legacy should be able to say that his parents are
> dead.
>
> michele
>
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[LegacyUG] MRIN troubles

[Nancy]

Hello all,
Awhile ago I imported a gedcom from somewhere (I think FamilySearch). It 
wasn't until recently that I discovered that the MRIN's imported were 8 
digit numbers and all subsequent MRINs generated by Legacy were 8 digits. 
I've corrected all those so that they are in sequence with the rest of my 
families BUT Legacy still generates 8 digit MRINs when I create a new 
marriage. What do I need to do to stop it?


I have the most recent version of Legacy Deluxe 7.0.0.109.

Thanks,
Nancy





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Re: [LegacyUG] living again

[Michele Lewis]

I have already done that.

michele

- Original Message - 
From: "CE Wood" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 8:23 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] living again


Assuming these are people without a death date, Click 
Options>Customize>Data

Entry.

In the section Presumed Dead, Set as dead if over, enter the age at which
you want Legacy to mark people as dead


CE

-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Michele Lewis
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 4:08 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] living again

I did everything y'all to do but the program is still killing people that
are long dead.  If someone married in 1821 there is no way they could be
alive but Legacy is marking them as living unless I manually kill them 
off.
I have tagged everyone in my file that is marked as living that doesn't 
have


a birth date and I am killing them off one at a time.  I only have 2000 
more


to check!

Maybe Legacy can add some additional parameters for automatically killing
people off.  If a person was married 100 years ago or more he is probably
dead.  If his mother died over 100 years ago he is probably dead etc.

The problem is that my uploaded file on the internet has 1/3 of the people
marked as living so my file isn't very helpful to anyone.

michele

- Original Message - 
From: "Eileen" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 5:53 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Master l Source is messing up



Well I just hate to write again about anything to do with Legacy, I have
not
done anymore updates for fear of some unknown happening.  I'm on version
7.0.090 and have used the program since version 4.

I have been updating all my families with their 1850 census, I go to the
Master Source List, go to Source, open the file and go down the list
checking everything that shows it has a 1850 census.  Ask it to show me
the
list, to make sure all are checked with a number 2, close it and go to 
the

next one.

I have come on a group under Indiana, Clay Co., Van Buren Twp., - 1850 
and
the next on the list is the same everything except it's a 1860.  These 
two

list has 18 people, All eighteen have both the 1850 census and the 1860
census.

All of the people on both these lists have 1850 census and 1860 census on
their family screens, all information shows correct, all sources show
correct, but on the Master list, only half of them (11) show on 1850 list
and (7) show on the  1860.

So I went through all the 1860 deleted the old 1860 from the Events list,
re-added it and everything on my Master Source list finally showed up 
just

right, all on both the 1850 & 1860 lists.

Shut the program down, since I was almost sick thinking of all I was 
going
to have to change when I finally felt up to it.  Some hours have gone 
bye,

open up the program, went right to the Master Source and guess what half
is
on the 1850 and half are on the 1860. Right back to where they were 
before

all the work deleting and adding the census again.   What in the world is
happening?  Can I sent attachments so you can look at the papers I 
printed

out?  It might help you understand what I'm writing.

I know I don't seem to be able to explain things clearly so staff can
understand what I telling them.  But this is a mess and I afraid to check
anymore files but know that there are more errors.

Pleae help as soon as possible
thanks
Eileen





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RE: [LegacyUG] living again

[CE Wood]

Assuming these are people without a death date, Click Options>Customize>Data
Entry.

In the section Presumed Dead, Set as dead if over, enter the age at which
you want Legacy to mark people as dead


CE

-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Michele Lewis
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 4:08 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] living again

I did everything y'all to do but the program is still killing people that 
are long dead.  If someone married in 1821 there is no way they could be 
alive but Legacy is marking them as living unless I manually kill them off. 
I have tagged everyone in my file that is marked as living that doesn't have

a birth date and I am killing them off one at a time.  I only have 2000 more

to check!

Maybe Legacy can add some additional parameters for automatically killing 
people off.  If a person was married 100 years ago or more he is probably 
dead.  If his mother died over 100 years ago he is probably dead etc.

The problem is that my uploaded file on the internet has 1/3 of the people 
marked as living so my file isn't very helpful to anyone.

michele

- Original Message - 
From: "Eileen" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 5:53 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Master l Source is messing up


> Well I just hate to write again about anything to do with Legacy, I have 
> not
> done anymore updates for fear of some unknown happening.  I'm on version
> 7.0.090 and have used the program since version 4.
>
> I have been updating all my families with their 1850 census, I go to the
> Master Source List, go to Source, open the file and go down the list
> checking everything that shows it has a 1850 census.  Ask it to show me 
> the
> list, to make sure all are checked with a number 2, close it and go to the
> next one.
>
> I have come on a group under Indiana, Clay Co., Van Buren Twp., - 1850 and
> the next on the list is the same everything except it's a 1860.  These two
> list has 18 people, All eighteen have both the 1850 census and the 1860
> census.
>
> All of the people on both these lists have 1850 census and 1860 census on
> their family screens, all information shows correct, all sources show
> correct, but on the Master list, only half of them (11) show on 1850 list
> and (7) show on the  1860.
>
> So I went through all the 1860 deleted the old 1860 from the Events list,
> re-added it and everything on my Master Source list finally showed up just
> right, all on both the 1850 & 1860 lists.
>
> Shut the program down, since I was almost sick thinking of all I was going
> to have to change when I finally felt up to it.  Some hours have gone bye,
> open up the program, went right to the Master Source and guess what half 
> is
> on the 1850 and half are on the 1860. Right back to where they were before
> all the work deleting and adding the census again.   What in the world is
> happening?  Can I sent attachments so you can look at the papers I printed
> out?  It might help you understand what I'm writing.
>
> I know I don't seem to be able to explain things clearly so staff can
> understand what I telling them.  But this is a mess and I afraid to check
> anymore files but know that there are more errors.
>
> Pleae help as soon as possible
> thanks
> Eileen
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] living again

[Cathy-0]

When I had that problem, I went to the Index view and added the column
entitled "Living".  While I had to re-adjust the columnar widths so that I
could see more columns for each person, I found it a lot easier to see those
who were marked as either "No" for not living or "Yes" for living.  

This allowed me to see people and their relevant info on one line.  Just
clicking on a line opened up the Individual's Information screen where I
could then change the status from Living to Deceased. I found this way to be
relative easy.  

I was also clicked on the RIN section at the top of the page which sorted
everyone by RIN numbers.  In that way, I knew where I stopped editing the
Living status when I stopped an editing session.  Then I wrote down the last
RIN number viewed or edited so that I knew where to start the next time I
picked up the task again.   



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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Michele Lewis
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 7:08 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] living again

I did everything y'all to do but the program is still killing people that 
are long dead.  If someone married in 1821 there is no way they could be 
alive but Legacy is marking them as living unless I manually kill them off. 
I have tagged everyone in my file that is marked as living that doesn't have

a birth date and I am killing them off one at a time.  I only have 2000 more

to check!

Maybe Legacy can add some additional parameters for automatically killing 
people off.  If a person was married 100 years ago or more he is probably 
dead.  If his mother died over 100 years ago he is probably dead etc.

The problem is that my uploaded file on the internet has 1/3 of the people 
marked as living so my file isn't very helpful to anyone.

michele

- Original Message - 
From: "Eileen" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 5:53 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Master l Source is messing up


> Well I just hate to write again about anything to do with Legacy, I have 
> not
> done anymore updates for fear of some unknown happening.  I'm on version
> 7.0.090 and have used the program since version 4.
>
> I have been updating all my families with their 1850 census, I go to the
> Master Source List, go to Source, open the file and go down the list
> checking everything that shows it has a 1850 census.  Ask it to show me 
> the
> list, to make sure all are checked with a number 2, close it and go to the
> next one.
>
> I have come on a group under Indiana, Clay Co., Van Buren Twp., - 1850 and
> the next on the list is the same everything except it's a 1860.  These two
> list has 18 people, All eighteen have both the 1850 census and the 1860
> census.
>
> All of the people on both these lists have 1850 census and 1860 census on
> their family screens, all information shows correct, all sources show
> correct, but on the Master list, only half of them (11) show on 1850 list
> and (7) show on the  1860.
>
> So I went through all the 1860 deleted the old 1860 from the Events list,
> re-added it and everything on my Master Source list finally showed up just
> right, all on both the 1850 & 1860 lists.
>
> Shut the program down, since I was almost sick thinking of all I was going
> to have to change when I finally felt up to it.  Some hours have gone bye,
> open up the program, went right to the Master Source and guess what half 
> is
> on the 1850 and half are on the 1860. Right back to where they were before
> all the work deleting and adding the census again.   What in the world is
> happening?  Can I sent attachments so you can look at the papers I printed
> out?  It might help you understand what I'm writing.
>
> I know I don't seem to be able to explain things clearly so staff can
> understand what I telling them.  But this is a mess and I afraid to check
> anymore files but know that there are more errors.
>
> Pleae help as soon as possible
> thanks
> Eileen
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy unable to "lock file"

[CE Wood]

See page:  http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/helpPDFerrors.asp.

PDF File Errors
Can't Create PDF file or PDF files missing pages/pictures (Legacy Deluxe
only)

8.  There is a limit to how large a PDF file can be.  We have experienced
problems where pages and pictures and are dropped with PDF files containing
hundreds of pages.  Please recreate your PDF book in separate, smaller
volumes.


CE


From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Pat Hickin
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 3:55 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy unable to "lock file"

Thanks, so much, Dan; your message was very helpful, and I changed the
virtual memory as you suggested -- to 8500mb -- it was previously set at
c6500mb.
 
However, when I again attempted to create the .pdf I got the Error 3050
message again.  So I came down a few generations and tried again and this
time it was successful -- the result was a .pdf file of just under 142,000kb
with c140 pictures.  It's 385 pp (c100 of them are citations).  
 
If I had gotten the whole thing, I estimate that I would have added 50-100
pp and c50 pictures--nowhere near the 3500 pages it previously attempted to
create.
 
I don't know whether the size of the pictures affects things, mine are quite
a nice size.
 
I am wondering whether there is a Legacy or Adobe "bug" involve?
 
It doesn't seem to me that it is too much to ask of Legacy to create a .pdf
of 200 pages.
 
I'd really appreciate any further comments.
 
Pat 
- Original Message - 
From: Orion 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 9:41 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy unable to "lock file"

It sounds to me like you've run out of "virtual memory".
 
In short, the computer has not got enough space to work with the pdf file
that is being created.  PDF files are notoriously big especially so when u
add photo's to it.  And if generating a 3500 page file...wow!  Its going to
be huge, and will take forever to open if u ever get it created.  
 
Think of your virtual memory like your desk, and your hard drive like your
book shelf.  ...when u work on a project you work on your desk and all your
supplies are stored on your book shelf.  If you don't have enough room on
the desk...it makes working on the project extremely hard, or at the very
least very time consuming moving stuff on and off the desk.  Computers are
the same way.  That's why you're encouraged to have as much memory as
possible.    
 
As a rule of thumb, your virtual memory should be at least twice the size of
your RAM memory.  The computer will automatically set it but generally no
where near the proper size.  You have the ability to change it,
manually...(but you will get warning messages when you do so - don't worry
about them)
 
First, check how much space you have available.  You said you have 4 GB of
RAM.  This means your should set your virtual memory to at least 8 GB (I
would set mine to 8320 mb...which equates to 8 GB of space plus 128 kb -
just to be safe).  Make sure you have the available space on your hard drive
as this is where your "desk" is carved out of.  Assuming you have the space
continue as indicated.  My instructions are for XP...I don't use Vista as it
is to problematic...even Microsoft is moving away from it.  You'll have to
make the necessary adjustments in finding the exact location
 
1)  Right click on "My Computer"
2)  Left click on "Properties"
3)  Left click on the "Advanced" tab
4)  Find the "Virtual Memory" section and click on the change button.  
5)  Set the Initial Size and the Maximum size to the same number...8320 (you
set them both to the same size so the system takes all the room it will need
at one time.  Otherwise the computer will only take the bare minimum when it
starts up and continue trying to take more as needed.  It's similar to
having to work on 10 or 12 small desks vs. 1 large desk.  The large desk is
what you want)
6)  Click ok until you are backed right out.  
7)  Restart your computer
 
You will now have enough virtual memory to properly work with your
computer.   Assuming your have the hard drive space available, I guarantee
that ALL your programs will run better, not just Legacy.  
 
One word of caution...make sure you have enough disk space...or else you may
lock your computer up and not get it to start
 
Best of luck.
 
Dan
 


From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Evert van Dijken
Sent: October 6, 2009 6:41 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy unable to "lock file"
There could also be something wrong with writing permissions to a folder or
drive (cd, dvd, usb?).
Evert
2009/10/6 Robert57P_Gmail 
Pat,
 
How's your hard drive space?  It might be  having a problem creating some
temporary work files on the drive due to lack of space.
 
I'd also look over the drive for any left-over t

[LegacyUG] living again

[Michele Lewis]

I did everything y'all to do but the program is still killing people that 
are long dead.  If someone married in 1821 there is no way they could be 
alive but Legacy is marking them as living unless I manually kill them off. 
I have tagged everyone in my file that is marked as living that doesn't have 
a birth date and I am killing them off one at a time.  I only have 2000 more 
to check!


Maybe Legacy can add some additional parameters for automatically killing 
people off.  If a person was married 100 years ago or more he is probably 
dead.  If his mother died over 100 years ago he is probably dead etc.


The problem is that my uploaded file on the internet has 1/3 of the people 
marked as living so my file isn't very helpful to anyone.


michele

- Original Message - 
From: "Eileen" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 5:53 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Master l Source is messing up


Well I just hate to write again about anything to do with Legacy, I have 
not

done anymore updates for fear of some unknown happening.  I'm on version
7.0.090 and have used the program since version 4.

I have been updating all my families with their 1850 census, I go to the
Master Source List, go to Source, open the file and go down the list
checking everything that shows it has a 1850 census.  Ask it to show me 
the

list, to make sure all are checked with a number 2, close it and go to the
next one.

I have come on a group under Indiana, Clay Co., Van Buren Twp., - 1850 and
the next on the list is the same everything except it's a 1860.  These two
list has 18 people, All eighteen have both the 1850 census and the 1860
census.

All of the people on both these lists have 1850 census and 1860 census on
their family screens, all information shows correct, all sources show
correct, but on the Master list, only half of them (11) show on 1850 list
and (7) show on the  1860.

So I went through all the 1860 deleted the old 1860 from the Events list,
re-added it and everything on my Master Source list finally showed up just
right, all on both the 1850 & 1860 lists.

Shut the program down, since I was almost sick thinking of all I was going
to have to change when I finally felt up to it.  Some hours have gone bye,
open up the program, went right to the Master Source and guess what half 
is

on the 1850 and half are on the 1860. Right back to where they were before
all the work deleting and adding the census again.   What in the world is
happening?  Can I sent attachments so you can look at the papers I printed
out?  It might help you understand what I'm writing.

I know I don't seem to be able to explain things clearly so staff can
understand what I telling them.  But this is a mess and I afraid to check
anymore files but know that there are more errors.

Pleae help as soon as possible
thanks
Eileen





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[LegacyUG] Here is a good example

[Michele Lewis]

I have a married couple that are both marked as living.  Their son was born 
in 1847.  I think that Legacy should be able to say that his parents are 
dead.


michele 





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Re: [LegacyUG] Master l Source is messing up

[Dennis M . Kowallek]

On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 16:53:38 -0500, "Eileen"  wrote:

>Pleae help as soon as possible

If you decide to take me up on the offer to help, make sure you send the
requested items OFF-LIST!
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy unable to "lock file"

[Pat Hickin]

Thanks, so much, Dan; your message was very helpful, and I changed the virtual 
memory as you suggested -- to 8500mb -- it was previously set at c6500mb.

However, when I again attempted to create the .pdf I got the Error 3050 message 
again.  So I came down a few generations and tried again and this time it was 
successful -- the result was a .pdf file of just under 142,000kb with c140 
pictures.  It's 385 pp (c100 of them are citations).  

If I had gotten the whole thing, I estimate that I would have added 50-100 pp 
and c50 pictures--nowhere near the 3500 pages it previously attempted to create.

I don't know whether the size of the pictures affects things, mine are quite a 
nice size.

I am wondering whether there is a Legacy or Adobe "bug" involve?

It doesn't seem to me that it is too much to ask of Legacy to create a .pdf of 
200 pages.

I'd really appreciate any further comments.

Pat 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Orion 
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 9:41 AM
  Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy unable to "lock file"


  It sounds to me like you've run out of "virtual memory".

  In short, the computer has not got enough space to work with the pdf file 
that is being created.  PDF files are notoriously big especially so when u add 
photo's to it.  And if generating a 3500 page file...wow!  Its going to be 
huge, and will take forever to open if u ever get it created.  

  Think of your virtual memory like your desk, and your hard drive like your 
book shelf.  ...when u work on a project you work on your desk and all your 
supplies are stored on your book shelf.  If you don't have enough room on the 
desk...it makes working on the project extremely hard, or at the very least 
very time consuming moving stuff on and off the desk.  Computers are the same 
way.  That's why you're encouraged to have as much memory as possible.

  As a rule of thumb, your virtual memory should be at least twice the size of 
your RAM memory.  The computer will automatically set it but generally no where 
near the proper size.  You have the ability to change it, manually...(but you 
will get warning messages when you do so - don't worry about them)

  First, check how much space you have available.  You said you have 4 GB of 
RAM.  This means your should set your virtual memory to at least 8 GB (I would 
set mine to 8320 mb...which equates to 8 GB of space plus 128 kb - just to be 
safe).  Make sure you have the available space on your hard drive as this is 
where your "desk" is carved out of.  Assuming you have the space continue as 
indicated.  My instructions are for XP...I don't use Vista as it is to 
problematic...even Microsoft is moving away from it.  You'll have to make the 
necessary adjustments in finding the exact location

  1)  Right click on "My Computer"
  2)  Left click on "Properties"
  3)  Left click on the "Advanced" tab
  4)  Find the "Virtual Memory" section and click on the change button.  
  5)  Set the Initial Size and the Maximum size to the same number...8320 (you 
set them both to the same size so the system takes all the room it will need at 
one time.  Otherwise the computer will only take the bare minimum when it 
starts up and continue trying to take more as needed.  It's similar to having 
to work on 10 or 12 small desks vs. 1 large desk.  The large desk is what you 
want)
  6)  Click ok until you are backed right out.  
  7)  Restart your computer

  You will now have enough virtual memory to properly work with your computer.  
 Assuming your have the hard drive space available, I guarantee that ALL your 
programs will run better, not just Legacy.  

  One word of caution...make sure you have enough disk space...or else you may 
lock your computer up and not get it to start

  Best of luck.

  Dan





From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On 
Behalf Of Evert van Dijken
Sent: October 6, 2009 6:41 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy unable to "lock file"


There could also be something wrong with writing permissions to a folder or 
drive (cd, dvd, usb?).
Evert


2009/10/6 Robert57P_Gmail 

  Pat,

  How's your hard drive space?  It might be  having a problem creating some 
temporary work files on the drive due to lack of space.

  I'd also look over the drive for any left-over temp files that didn't get 
deleted after the crash.  No, I'm not sure where to look - don't know where the 
PDF utility might put them.

  First place I'd look would be:
C:\WINDOWS\TEMP
C:\Documents and Settings\\My Documents(where  is your 
log-in ID)
  Note that these locations might vary depending on what version of WIndows 
you have.  Maybe a better method would be to use Microsoft's Disk cleanup 
utility.  Under my XP, it is 

[LegacyUG] Tagging people question

[Michele Lewis]

If I tag a group of people that I need to check or fix something on

If I use the arrows at the bottom of screen to go through the list...

As long as I don't change anything on the person it will go to the next 
person.  If I make a change to the person then when I hit the arrow it will 
say "End of Tag List reached, moving to first Tagged Individual."


This is VERY aggravating.  If I am changing things on everyone in the list 
then every time I hit the arrow to go to the next person I get that screen 
and then I have to click it off, then hit the arrow again.


Does that make sense?

michele




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Re: [LegacyUG] Master l Source is messing up

[Dennis M . Kowallek]

Eileen:

If you want to send me a copy of your database as well as screen shots
(with explanations for each) that describe what you are doing, I would
be happy to look at your problem. As you guessed, your explanation is
confusing.

Dennis

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On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 16:53:38 -0500, "Eileen"  wrote:

>Well I just hate to write again about anything to do with Legacy, I have not
>done anymore updates for fear of some unknown happening.  I'm on version
>7.0.090 and have used the program since version 4.
>
>I have been updating all my families with their 1850 census, I go to the
>Master Source List, go to Source, open the file and go down the list
>checking everything that shows it has a 1850 census.  Ask it to show me the
>list, to make sure all are checked with a number 2, close it and go to the
>next one.
>
>I have come on a group under Indiana, Clay Co., Van Buren Twp., - 1850 and
>the next on the list is the same everything except it's a 1860.  These two
>list has 18 people, All eighteen have both the 1850 census and the 1860
>census.
>
>All of the people on both these lists have 1850 census and 1860 census on
>their family screens, all information shows correct, all sources show
>correct, but on the Master list, only half of them (11) show on 1850 list
>and (7) show on the  1860.
>
>So I went through all the 1860 deleted the old 1860 from the Events list,
>re-added it and everything on my Master Source list finally showed up just
>right, all on both the 1850 & 1860 lists.
>
>Shut the program down, since I was almost sick thinking of all I was going
>to have to change when I finally felt up to it.  Some hours have gone bye,
>open up the program, went right to the Master Source and guess what half is
>on the 1850 and half are on the 1860. Right back to where they were before
>all the work deleting and adding the census again.   What in the world is
>happening?  Can I sent attachments so you can look at the papers I printed
>out?  It might help you understand what I'm writing.
>
>I know I don't seem to be able to explain things clearly so staff can
>understand what I telling them.  But this is a mess and I afraid to check
>anymore files but know that there are more errors.
>
>Pleae help as soon as possible



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RE: [LegacyUG] no name people

[William H. Boswell]

I just do Mr. or Mrs. and whatever the surname is and tell Legacy to ignore
it for that person.  Legacy has unknowns married to unknowns in my data file
which is a mystery to me.  Unknown children who died before they were named
or in childbirth are just listed as Child or Baby, or something like that.

Personally I've experienced problems with Legacy naming the wife or husband
as Unknown when I imported my Gedcom file.  When I tried to fix it, the
Unknown didn't go away and it was a pain to get rid of it.  Fortunately,
it's fixed now.
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  From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf
Of Heather Stovold
  Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 2:54 PM
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] no name people


  you can leave the wife as unknown   and I would personally just have
the last name for the father - no unknown, or mystery, or anything like it
for the first name.


  On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Jane Sarles 
wrote:

I need to put parents, whose names I do not yet know, into my Legacy
program, so that I can get my ancestor and all her siblings together as a
family.  I have put in "Mystery Mayo" for the unknown father, but, since I
don't know either the surname or given name of his wife, I can't think how
to input it.  Advice?

Jane Sarles






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Re: [LegacyUG] How would you add this event?

[Michele Lewis]

Silas appeared in front of the Magistrate with witnesses who stated under 
oath that they could swear that this Silas Simmons was the one that served 
in the War of 1812.  There was a hold out on the issuance of his bounty land 
because there were TWO Silas Simmons',  He had to come to court and prove 
who he was before they would release the land.


michele

- Original Message - 
From: "Ron Ferguson" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How would you add this event?



Michele Lewis wrote:

My ggg grandfather appeared in court on 08 Nov 1851.  He was there
to prove that he was the Silas Simmons that fought in the War of
1812 and was at the Battle of New Orleans so that he would be
entitled to bounty land (there was another Silas Simmons in the area
so he went to court to prove he was who he said he was).

I am trying to figure out what the best way to title this event.
Affidavit? (that is what the document it).  Court Appearance (that
one just sounds strange).  This document isn't a deed.  I don't know
what I should title the event.  Any suggestions?

I want it to be an event so that I can show the progession of all
the events of his life in order of dates.  (one of the reasons I
like Legacy).

michele



Michele,

I don't wish to sound pedantic, but you do not acrtually tell us what the
document is, nor what it is about. It could be an oath (Affidavit) sworn 
by

him, in which case it was clearly contested, it could be a defendants
summons to court, a plaintiff's application to the court, the judgement of
the court and so forth. One should simply call the document what it is!

The suggestion in your other post re. type of source seems reasonable, for
what you have described and the Event could be the name of the court. I 
have

some Events such as Coroner's Court, Westmorland Quarter Sessions etc.,
Description: the type of case - this is usually on the Court Documents, 
Date

and Place are obvious.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Master l Source is messing up

[Eileen]

Well I just hate to write again about anything to do with Legacy, I have not
done anymore updates for fear of some unknown happening.  I'm on version
7.0.090 and have used the program since version 4.

I have been updating all my families with their 1850 census, I go to the
Master Source List, go to Source, open the file and go down the list
checking everything that shows it has a 1850 census.  Ask it to show me the
list, to make sure all are checked with a number 2, close it and go to the
next one.

I have come on a group under Indiana, Clay Co., Van Buren Twp., - 1850 and
the next on the list is the same everything except it's a 1860.  These two
list has 18 people, All eighteen have both the 1850 census and the 1860
census.

All of the people on both these lists have 1850 census and 1860 census on
their family screens, all information shows correct, all sources show
correct, but on the Master list, only half of them (11) show on 1850 list
and (7) show on the  1860.

So I went through all the 1860 deleted the old 1860 from the Events list,
re-added it and everything on my Master Source list finally showed up just
right, all on both the 1850 & 1860 lists.

Shut the program down, since I was almost sick thinking of all I was going
to have to change when I finally felt up to it.  Some hours have gone bye,
open up the program, went right to the Master Source and guess what half is
on the 1850 and half are on the 1860. Right back to where they were before
all the work deleting and adding the census again.   What in the world is
happening?  Can I sent attachments so you can look at the papers I printed
out?  It might help you understand what I'm writing.

I know I don't seem to be able to explain things clearly so staff can
understand what I telling them.  But this is a mess and I afraid to check
anymore files but know that there are more errors.

Pleae help as soon as possible
thanks
Eileen





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[LegacyUG] Publishing Center - Maintaining Selected Font and including sources

[Judy]

Is anyone else having a problem with customizing the font in a book created 
in the Publishing Center?  I have a specific font selected in the 
Descendant/Ancestor individual Report Options, and for a Multiple Lines of 
Descent Report, but it will not "transfer" to the settings in the Publishing 
Center.


Selecting "Edit Settings For Current Chapter" shows the font I have chosen, 
but the font is incorrect in the print preview, when the report is done 
through the Publishing Center.  Individual Descendant/Ancestor reports, done 
outside of the Publishing Center, preview with the correct font.


Additionally, in the Publishing Center, a Multiple Lines of Descent Report 
does not allow for the printing of sources - the entire "Sources" tab is 
grayed out.  Sources are allowed, however, when creating a Multiple Lines of 
Descent Report outside of the Publishing Center.


Version: 7.0.0.109

File maintenance - done.

Reboot system - done.

Reset and select specific fonts - done.

Anyone have any other suggestions?

Judy




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Re: [LegacyUG] How would you add this event? Part II

[Eliz Hanebury]

I am trying to remember the word I would use and as a note  but so
far Testimony is the closest I can get  or Witness in Court.


Eliz

On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Michele Lewis  wrote:
> Actually, I am not even sure how to add this as a source.  I guess just as a
> generic court document?
>
> michele
>
>> My ggg grandfather appeared in court on 08 Nov 1851.  He was there to
>> prove that he was the Silas Simmons that fought in the War of 1812 and was
>> at the Battle of New Orleans so that he would be entitled to bounty land
>> (there was another Silas Simmons in the area so he went to court to prove he
>> was who he said he was).
>>
>> I am trying to figure out what the best way to title this event.
>> Affidavit? (that is what the document it).  Court Appearance (that one just
>> sounds strange).  This document isn't a deed.  I don't know what I should
>> title the event.  Any suggestions?
>>
>> I want it to be an event so that I can show the progession of all the
>> events of his life in order of dates.  (one of the reasons I like Legacy).
>>
>> michele
>>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] What to cite?

[Eric]

Thanks for the replies everyone!  What I think I'll do is just cite
everything.  I understand it'll be worthwhile in the long run and make my
research more credible.  Now I just have to find the time to cite it all.

On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 6:12 PM, Kramer  wrote:

> Eric, I would do exactly as Ron says except that if you find something that
> contradicts the other info, I would note it in the Research Notes as to why
> it is wrong so that you can justify why you didn't trust that source.  Also
> note how many times you could have referenced it corroborating the info that
> you trusted.  You can put some of those sources in the Research Notes,
> especially the sources that you didn't cite which were wrong.
> Ellen Kramer
>
> Researching and loving Dorman, Kramer, Mirarchi, Procopio, Renninger and
> Staudt-Stoudt-Stout families
>
>
> On Oct 3, 2009, at 2:40 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
>
> Not at all Eric, at least I don't.
>>
>> At the most I source the vital records twice;  for a name it may be any
>> two of eg, a birth index, birth certificate, marriage index, marriage
>> certificate, census.
>>
>> Usually other times when one finds a name it is in conjunction with an
>> Event, such as Occupation, Emigration etc. in which case I use the source to
>> Source the Event and not the name.
>>
>> I apply the same way of working to all records. I do prioritise according
>> to reliability, and also use my assessment of the Surety Level.
>>
>> Ron Ferguson
>> _
>>
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] How would you add this event?

[Ron Ferguson]

Michele Lewis wrote:

My ggg grandfather appeared in court on 08 Nov 1851.  He was there
to prove that he was the Silas Simmons that fought in the War of
1812 and was at the Battle of New Orleans so that he would be
entitled to bounty land (there was another Silas Simmons in the area
so he went to court to prove he was who he said he was).

I am trying to figure out what the best way to title this event.
Affidavit? (that is what the document it).  Court Appearance (that
one just sounds strange).  This document isn't a deed.  I don't know
what I should title the event.  Any suggestions?

I want it to be an event so that I can show the progession of all
the events of his life in order of dates.  (one of the reasons I
like Legacy).

michele



Michele,

I don't wish to sound pedantic, but you do not acrtually tell us what the 
document is, nor what it is about. It could be an oath (Affidavit) sworn by 
him, in which case it was clearly contested, it could be a defendants 
summons to court, a plaintiff's application to the court, the judgement of 
the court and so forth. One should simply call the document what it is!


The suggestion in your other post re. type of source seems reasonable, for 
what you have described and the Event could be the name of the court. I have 
some Events such as Coroner's Court, Westmorland Quarter Sessions etc., 
Description: the type of case - this is usually on the Court Documents, Date 
and Place are obvious.


Ron Ferguson
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[LegacyUG] How would you add this event? Part II

[Michele Lewis]

Actually, I am not even sure how to add this as a source.  I guess just as a 
generic court document?


michele

My ggg grandfather appeared in court on 08 Nov 1851.  He was there to 
prove that he was the Silas Simmons that fought in the War of 1812 and was 
at the Battle of New Orleans so that he would be entitled to bounty land 
(there was another Silas Simmons in the area so he went to court to prove 
he was who he said he was).


I am trying to figure out what the best way to title this event. 
Affidavit? (that is what the document it).  Court Appearance (that one 
just sounds strange).  This document isn't a deed.  I don't know what I 
should title the event.  Any suggestions?


I want it to be an event so that I can show the progession of all the 
events of his life in order of dates.  (one of the reasons I like Legacy).


michele






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[LegacyUG] How would you add this event?

[Michele Lewis]

My ggg grandfather appeared in court on 08 Nov 1851.  He was there to prove 
that he was the Silas Simmons that fought in the War of 1812 and was at the 
Battle of New Orleans so that he would be entitled to bounty land (there was 
another Silas Simmons in the area so he went to court to prove he was who he 
said he was).


I am trying to figure out what the best way to title this event.  Affidavit? 
(that is what the document it).  Court Appearance (that one just sounds 
strange).  This document isn't a deed.  I don't know what I should title the 
event.  Any suggestions?


I want it to be an event so that I can show the progession of all the events 
of his life in order of dates.  (one of the reasons I like Legacy).


michele




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Re: [LegacyUG] no name people

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

For temporary purposes, make his wife Mrs. Mayo.  add the siblings in. Then you 
can unlink her from the group, then delete her.  This will hold them together 
(in a band-aid style).
Rich in LA CA





From: Jane Sarles 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2009 11:00:28 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] no name people

I need to put parents, whose names I do not yet know, into my Legacy program, 
so that I can get my ancestor and all her siblings together as a family.  I 
have put in "Mystery Mayo" for the unknown father, but, since I don't know 
either the surname or given name of his wife, I can't think how to input it.  
Advice?

Jane Sarles





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Re: [LegacyUG] no name people

[Michele Lewis]

Step one

Add father with just last name of Mayo.

Step two...

Add (or link) all of his children to him.  

Step three...

Legacy will automatically add "unknown" in the wife's name



michele


  - Original Message - 
  From: Jane Sarles 
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 2:00 PM
  Subject: [LegacyUG] no name people


  I need to put parents, whose names I do not yet know, into my Legacy program, 
so that I can get my ancestor and all her siblings together as a family.  I 
have put in "Mystery Mayo" for the unknown father, but, since I don't know 
either the surname or given name of his wife, I can't think how to input it.  
Advice?

  Jane Sarles



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Re: [LegacyUG] Some report problems

[Ward Walker]

The first problem rings a bell. Is this the same or related to the thread 
"Numbering source citations and end notes" from June?


 Ward

- Original Message - 
From: "Jan Roberts" 

To: "Legacy Users Group" 
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 10:21 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Some report problems



In trying to test some report behaviour in order to respond to the index
problems experienced by CE I discovered a couple of other problems in .rtf
reports.  After the lines giving instructions about creating your own 
index
I get a short second set of source citations, numbered from 1. again. 
There

is plenty or room for these citations to fit on the last page of the long
list of citations.

The second problem is that if a direct descendant is married their picture
doesn't appear - only that of their spouse.  If the direct descendant is
unmarried their picture appears.  I have options set for show pictures of
husband and wife, show all preferred.  They have always shown in other
reports, specifically the Descendant Narrative.  Can anyone reproduce?



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Re: [LegacyUG] Central Place for All Source Details (Citations)?

[Dennis M . Kowallek]

On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:30:48 -0400, "William H. Boswell"
 wrote:

>For
>instance, when I imported a GEDCOM from Family Tree Maker into Legacy, all
>of the Detail Text was put into Detail Comments.

Something like...

UPDATE tblSX SET tblSX.SrcDetText=tblSX.SrcDetNote,tblSX.SrcDetNote=""
WHERE ((tblSX.SrcDetText="") AND (tblSX.SrcDetNote<>""))

... would move *ALL* Detail Comments to Detail Text for every citation
in your database (if this is what you wanted to do).
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Central Place for All Source Details (Citations)?

[Brian/Support]

There is a problem which causes an error 6 under certain conditions. It 
has been fixed and the fix will be in the next release of Legacy.


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Randolph Clark wrote:

Only the you get Error 6 which is not listed among Solutions by Error.

On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Brian/Support wrote:




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Re: [LegacyUG] no name people

[Heather Stovold]

you can leave the wife as unknown   and I would personally just have the
last name for the father - no unknown, or mystery, or anything like it for
the first name.

On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Jane Sarles  wrote:

> I need to put parents, whose names I do not yet know, into my Legacy
> program, so that I can get my ancestor and all her siblings together as a
> family.  I have put in "Mystery Mayo" for the unknown father, but, since I
> don't know either the surname or given name of his wife, I can't think how
> to input it.  Advice?
>
> Jane Sarles
>

[LegacyUG] no name people

[Jane Sarles]

I need to put parents, whose names I do not yet know, into my Legacy
program, so that I can get my ancestor and all her siblings together as a
family.  I have put in "Mystery Mayo" for the unknown father, but, since I
don't know either the surname or given name of his wife, I can't think how
to input it.  Advice?

Jane Sarles

RE: [LegacyUG] Central Place for All Source Details (Citations)?

[William H. Boswell]

Thanks.  I'll try that.

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Brian/Support
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 1:22 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Central Place for All Source Details
(Citations)?


There is no central place to access all the details linked to a single
master source and amend them, en mass.
There is a report you can prepare to help you with finding where those
details are used however.
Go to View > Master Lists > Source
Click on options and select Print
There is an option there to print Master sources and all citations
(details) to each one. The sub option of include specific events will
list not only everyone in your file but also the events for each person.
By tagging Master Sources you can create a report for a group of sources
that will divide your project into manageable pieces.

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William H. Boswell wrote:
> I am still reorganizing my data in Legacy 7 and am finding it real time
> consuming for the Source Details that are linked to many people.  For
> instance, when I imported a GEDCOM from Family Tree Maker into Legacy, all
> of the Detail Text was put into Detail Comments.  I've been moving them
> manually, but many of them are linked to more than one person and finding
> them all is not an easy task.  These include source text from cemetery
> records and obituaries mostly, but are also census records.
>
> What I've been doing is editing one Source Detail, copying it to the
> clipboard, then pasting it back after removing the old one.  Is there a
> central place where I can access all of them, update one and have the
others
> update as it does for Sources?  If there isn't, this should be something
for
> the next version.  Of course, by then I will be done with this tedious
> project.
>
> I'm always afraid I'm creating duplicates of the same citation.  I hate to
> say this, but this was a lot easier in FTM 2009 but I'll never go back to
> FTM again.
>
> Bill Boswell



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Re: [LegacyUG] Central Place for All Source Details (Citations)?

[Ron Ferguson]

Randoph,

I don't doubt that you are unfortunately getting this error, but I don't. 
Error 6 is probably the ms Access overflow error, usually due to trying to 
fit something into a data field which is too big for that field. So the 
obvious question is what do you have in your database which is rather a 
large number or string?


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- Original Message - 
From: Randolph Clark

To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: 08 October 2009 18:51
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Central Place for All Source Details (Citations)?


Only the you get Error 6 which is not listed among Solutions by Error.


On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Brian/Support  
wrote:


There is no central place to access all the details linked to a single 
master source and amend them, en mass.
There is a report you can prepare to help you with finding where those 
details are used however.

Go to View > Master Lists > Source
Click on options and select Print
There is an option there to print Master sources and all citations (details) 
to each one. The sub option of include specific events will list not only 
everyone in your file but also the events for each person.
By tagging Master Sources you can create a report for a group of sources 
that will divide your project into manageable pieces.


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William H. Boswell wrote:

I am still reorganizing my data in Legacy 7 and am finding it real time
consuming for the Source Details that are linked to many people.  For
instance, when I imported a GEDCOM from Family Tree Maker into Legacy, all
of the Detail Text was put into Detail Comments.  I've been moving them
manually, but many of them are linked to more than one person and finding
them all is not an easy task.  These include source text from cemetery
records and obituaries mostly, but are also census records.

What I've been doing is editing one Source Detail, copying it to the
clipboard, then pasting it back after removing the old one.  Is there a
central place where I can access all of them, update one and have the others
update as it does for Sources?  If there isn't, this should be something for
the next version.  Of course, by then I will be done with this tedious
project.

I'm always afraid I'm creating duplicates of the same citation.  I hate to
say this, but this was a lot easier in FTM 2009 but I'll never go back to
FTM again.

Bill Boswell 





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RE: [LegacyUG] Central Place for All Source Details (Citations)?

[Valerie Laskowski]

William,

There might be an easier way.  Can you email me some screen shots of what
you are doing?  If you are just moving the Master source record "comments"
field to the "Text" field; and it needs to be done for everyone linked to
that person; it should give you that option.

Otherwise, if you are talking about the specific details or "citation" for
each individual of the Master Source Record; then there is also a way I can
help you move this over.  You can email me directly at lask...@att.net

Valerie

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Of Brian/Support
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 12:22 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Central Place for All Source Details (Citations)?

There is no central place to access all the details linked to a single 
master source and amend them, en mass.
There is a report you can prepare to help you with finding where those 
details are used however.
Go to View > Master Lists > Source
Click on options and select Print
There is an option there to print Master sources and all citations 
(details) to each one. The sub option of include specific events will 
list not only everyone in your file but also the events for each person.
By tagging Master Sources you can create a report for a group of sources 
that will divide your project into manageable pieces.

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William H. Boswell wrote:
> I am still reorganizing my data in Legacy 7 and am finding it real time
> consuming for the Source Details that are linked to many people.  For
> instance, when I imported a GEDCOM from Family Tree Maker into Legacy, all
> of the Detail Text was put into Detail Comments.  I've been moving them
> manually, but many of them are linked to more than one person and finding
> them all is not an easy task.  These include source text from cemetery
> records and obituaries mostly, but are also census records.
> 
> What I've been doing is editing one Source Detail, copying it to the
> clipboard, then pasting it back after removing the old one.  Is there a
> central place where I can access all of them, update one and have the
others
> update as it does for Sources?  If there isn't, this should be something
for
> the next version.  Of course, by then I will be done with this tedious
> project.
> 
> I'm always afraid I'm creating duplicates of the same citation.  I hate to
> say this, but this was a lot easier in FTM 2009 but I'll never go back to
> FTM again.
> 
> Bill Boswell



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Re: [LegacyUG] Central Place for All Source Details (Citations)?

[Randolph Clark]

Only the you get Error 6 which is not listed among Solutions by Error.

On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Brian/Support wrote:

> There is no central place to access all the details linked to a single
> master source and amend them, en mass.
> There is a report you can prepare to help you with finding where those
> details are used however.
> Go to View > Master Lists > Source
> Click on options and select Print
> There is an option there to print Master sources and all citations
> (details) to each one. The sub option of include specific events will list
> not only everyone in your file but also the events for each person.
> By tagging Master Sources you can create a report for a group of sources
> that will divide your project into manageable pieces.
>
> Brian
> Customer Support
> Millennia Corporation
> br...@legacyfamilytree.com
> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>
> We are changing the world of genealogy!
> When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence.
> Thanks.
>
> William H. Boswell wrote:
>
>> I am still reorganizing my data in Legacy 7 and am finding it real time
>> consuming for the Source Details that are linked to many people.  For
>> instance, when I imported a GEDCOM from Family Tree Maker into Legacy, all
>> of the Detail Text was put into Detail Comments.  I've been moving them
>> manually, but many of them are linked to more than one person and finding
>> them all is not an easy task.  These include source text from cemetery
>> records and obituaries mostly, but are also census records.
>>
>> What I've been doing is editing one Source Detail, copying it to the
>> clipboard, then pasting it back after removing the old one.  Is there a
>> central place where I can access all of them, update one and have the
>> others
>> update as it does for Sources?  If there isn't, this should be something
>> for
>> the next version.  Of course, by then I will be done with this tedious
>> project.
>>
>> I'm always afraid I'm creating duplicates of the same citation.  I hate to
>> say this, but this was a lot easier in FTM 2009 but I'll never go back to
>> FTM again.
>>
>> Bill Boswell
>>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] No report indices in text format, & other bugs in reports

[Ron Ferguson]

I think that Jan is certainly correct in saying that for the technical 
reasons she gave, one cannot have an index in a TXT file. And as I stated 
earlier, two files would be needed in HTML since it is not possible to have 
2 pages in one file as can be done in a PDF.


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CE Wood wrote:

RTF format is not offered for the reports in question.

It is both the Text and HTML formats that do not include either
Index when selected and when they DO show in Preview and PDF.


CE


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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On
Behalf Of Jan Roberts
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 7:01 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] No report indices in text format, & other
bugs in reports

CE,
I believe the limitations you are experiencing are part and parcel
of the type of output you are requesting, rather than a limitation
of Legacy. Asking for a text file will automatically strip / not
pick up the coding which allows for the creation of an index - just
as it strips / does not pick up any coding relating to font, bold,
italics etc.  It produces a text document only.  With the .rtf
document it includes something like the following

[ Note:  Using your word processor, generate an Index here. ]
[ All names have been marked as index entries in this document. ]
[ Erase these three lines. ]

at the end of the document so you can use your word processor to
create the index.  I find this invaluable, because I don't create
the index until I have edited the .rtf which may put people onto
different pages as I move things, change the size of photos etc.  So
the .rtf version retains the index markings, but allows you to still
create an index once you have finished editing.  The other versions
you cannot edit (unless you have a fully fledged PDF creator /
editor) so there is no need to hold off creating the index.

Cheers
Jan

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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On
Behalf Of CE Wood
Sent: Thursday, 8 October 2009 8:07
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] No report indices in text format, & other
bugs in reports

I am not asking Legacy to be a word processor.  I am asking that,
when a report is Previewed and there are check boxes for printing
various types of files, that those options be produced in whatever
format which has a checkbox.

The simplest would be a text file because then you could format the
file in your word processor.

When the opening page allows you to choose Index Options, you assume
that the indices will be produced in whatever format is allowed, i.e.
Screen/Printer, Text file, HTML, RTF, PDF.

When the Preview shows you a report that includes indices, you
assume that when produced in one of the formats with a check box,
that the indices will be produced when you choose one of those
formats.

This does not happen!  The indices are missing!!!

THAT is what the problem is.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Central Place for All Source Details (Citations)?

[Brian/Support]

There is no central place to access all the details linked to a single 
master source and amend them, en mass.
There is a report you can prepare to help you with finding where those 
details are used however.

Go to View > Master Lists > Source
Click on options and select Print
There is an option there to print Master sources and all citations 
(details) to each one. The sub option of include specific events will 
list not only everyone in your file but also the events for each person.
By tagging Master Sources you can create a report for a group of sources 
that will divide your project into manageable pieces.


Brian
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William H. Boswell wrote:

I am still reorganizing my data in Legacy 7 and am finding it real time
consuming for the Source Details that are linked to many people.  For
instance, when I imported a GEDCOM from Family Tree Maker into Legacy, all
of the Detail Text was put into Detail Comments.  I've been moving them
manually, but many of them are linked to more than one person and finding
them all is not an easy task.  These include source text from cemetery
records and obituaries mostly, but are also census records.

What I've been doing is editing one Source Detail, copying it to the
clipboard, then pasting it back after removing the old one.  Is there a
central place where I can access all of them, update one and have the others
update as it does for Sources?  If there isn't, this should be something for
the next version.  Of course, by then I will be done with this tedious
project.

I'm always afraid I'm creating duplicates of the same citation.  I hate to
say this, but this was a lot easier in FTM 2009 but I'll never go back to
FTM again.

Bill Boswell




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Re: [LegacyUG] No report indices in text format, & other bugs in reports

[Brian/Support]

I have input a problem report on this issue. My suggestion to the 
programmer is that when the Text or HTML format is selected the Index 
Options be greyed out and become unavailable. I believe there has been 
sufficient discussion of the inability of these formats to support 
creating indexes of names and/or locations to justify that suggestion.


Preview and PDF both include the indexes when selected because the 
Preview also uses the PDF creator tool to format the reports.


I would like more information on which reports you are including in the 
Publication Center book when you are only getting the first chapter in 
HTML format and are missing name indexes for the other chapters in PDF 
and Preview.


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CE Wood wrote:

I am trying to produce Individual, Family, Ancestor, Descendant, and Lineage
Reports.  When I choose Text file or HTML (there is no option for RTF), the
file is produced without any indices, even though both Name and Location
indices have been selected and do appear in Preview and PDF.

Also, when using Publishing Center, the HTML report includes only the first
chapter of the book even though Preview and PDF include all the chapters.

And, in the book, the Name Index for the book includes ONLY the names from
the first chapter.


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RE: [LegacyUG] No report indices in text format, & other bugs in reports

[CE Wood]

RTF format is not offered for the reports in question.

It is both the Text and HTML formats that do not include either Index when
selected and when they DO show in Preview and PDF.


CE


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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Jan Roberts
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 7:01 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] No report indices in text format, & other bugs in
reports

CE,
I believe the limitations you are experiencing are part and parcel of the
type of output you are requesting, rather than a limitation of Legacy.
Asking for a text file will automatically strip / not pick up the coding
which allows for the creation of an index - just as it strips / does not
pick up any coding relating to font, bold, italics etc.  It produces a text
document only.  With the .rtf document it includes something like the
following

[ Note:  Using your word processor, generate an Index here. ]
[ All names have been marked as index entries in this document. ]
[ Erase these three lines. ]

at the end of the document so you can use your word processor to create the
index.  I find this invaluable, because I don't create the index until I
have edited the .rtf which may put people onto different pages as I move
things, change the size of photos etc.  So the .rtf version retains the
index markings, but allows you to still create an index once you have
finished editing.  The other versions you cannot edit (unless you have a
fully fledged PDF creator / editor) so there is no need to hold off creating
the index.

Cheers
Jan

-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of CE Wood
Sent: Thursday, 8 October 2009 8:07
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] No report indices in text format, & other bugs in
reports

I am not asking Legacy to be a word processor.  I am asking that, when a
report is Previewed and there are check boxes for printing various types of
files, that those options be produced in whatever format which has a
checkbox.

The simplest would be a text file because then you could format the file in
your word processor.

When the opening page allows you to choose Index Options, you assume that
the indices will be produced in whatever format is allowed, i.e.
Screen/Printer, Text file, HTML, RTF, PDF.

When the Preview shows you a report that includes indices, you assume that
when produced in one of the formats with a check box, that the indices will
be produced when you choose one of those formats.

This does not happen!  The indices are missing!!!

THAT is what the problem is.


CE





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RE: [LegacyUG] No report indices in text format, & other bugs in reports

[Brian L. Lightfoot]

OK, that's it. We're just going to have to go over and free France all over 
again just so we can feel good about ourselves.

Brian in CA via County Tyrone
Wondering how long Sherry will let this continue before she says "Enough"
I guess this proves Legacy is truly an international product with global 
marketing. (Sneaky way of making this on-topic.)
:-)


-Original Message-
From: Mike Fry [mailto:mike...@iafrica.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 1:59 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] No report indices in text format, & other bugs in 
reports

Ron Ferguson wrote:
> Brian L. Lightfoot wrote:
>>> You people drive on the wrong side of the street anyhow. :-)
>>>
>>> Brian in CA
>>>
>>>
>>> Please see my comment in response to Dennis - an INDICES over here
>>> is used as a superscripted number referencing another place, or a
>>> power to which a number may be raised. x squared would have an
>>> indices of 2. The superscripted number referencing a source is an
>>> indices.
>>>
>>> Ron Ferguson
>>>
> 
> Now Brian, English is *our* language - that's why it is called "English" 
> :-)

Need any help Ron? Always willing to re-fight the so-called War of 
Independence.

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[LegacyUG] Central Place for All Source Details (Citations)?

[William H. Boswell]

I am still reorganizing my data in Legacy 7 and am finding it real time
consuming for the Source Details that are linked to many people.  For
instance, when I imported a GEDCOM from Family Tree Maker into Legacy, all
of the Detail Text was put into Detail Comments.  I've been moving them
manually, but many of them are linked to more than one person and finding
them all is not an easy task.  These include source text from cemetery
records and obituaries mostly, but are also census records.

What I've been doing is editing one Source Detail, copying it to the
clipboard, then pasting it back after removing the old one.  Is there a
central place where I can access all of them, update one and have the others
update as it does for Sources?  If there isn't, this should be something for
the next version.  Of course, by then I will be done with this tedious
project.

I'm always afraid I'm creating duplicates of the same citation.  I hate to
say this, but this was a lot easier in FTM 2009 but I'll never go back to
FTM again.

Bill Boswell




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[LegacyUG] Hotmail Strikes Again! [Was :how to print Event Address Coordinates]

[Mike Fry]

leo macdonald wrote:

 <72497bc90910080238m432a0982m2e6190c5db2c7...@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
MIME-Version: 1.0


Dede=2C
=20
In my example I used the word "Cemetery" for my searches because I have use=
d this word in all my cemetery locations=2C it also shows up in nearly all =
funeral notices=2C obituaries=2C death notices=2C etc.=2C which I add as ev=
ents.
=20
When you do your search try another word=2C one that you may have used cons=
istently when entering your cemetery addresses.


I see Hotmail is playing up again! Avoid using 'quoted-printable' for 
encoding your messages.


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RE: [LegacyUG] how to print Event Address Coordinates

[leo macdonald]

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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Dede=2C
=20
In my example I used the word "Cemetery" for my searches because I have use=
d this word in all my cemetery locations=2C it also shows up in nearly all =
funeral notices=2C obituaries=2C death notices=2C etc.=2C which I add as ev=
ents.
=20
When you do your search try another word=2C one that you may have used cons=
istently when entering your cemetery addresses.

Leo

> Date: Thu=2C 8 Oct 2009 04:38:56 -0500
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] how to print Event Address Coordinates
> From: deanbuc...@gmail.com
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>
> Bruce and Leo=2C
>
> This is what I was trying to avoid. I have chosen to show only city=2C
> county=2C state in the burial location. (Because that's what the
> Tutorials taught=2C and I always wanted to be the teacher's pet!) I may
> have to change=2C but that will require that I figure out how to use
> Dennis' wonderful Ltools=2C which I've purchased=2C but haven't taken tim=
e
> to learn.
>
> Leo's report is a good one=2C but it just gives the lat/long of the
> Burial places NOT the Cemetery addresses.
>
> I'll mull this over a little longer and decide which task I want to
> undertake - changing all my burial locations to include the cemetery
> name or manually going through the address list to see which ones need
> lat/long info.
>
> Thanks for your input. I did learn a little from both of you about
> customizing reports=2C so this was not a totally wasted effort.
>
> Always looking for the positive!
> Dede
>
> On Wed=2C Oct 7=2C 2009 at 1:46 PM=2C Bruce Jones wrote:
>> This is what I do.
>> - I put the cemetery name in the Location field instead of the Event Add=
resses
>> - Since most of my ancestors are buried in one very large cemetery=2C I
>> have created multiple Locations=2C one for each section of the cemetery
>> (guess I am a location "splitter")
>> - So my locations look like this:
>> - USA=2C Utah=2C Salt Lake=2C Salt Lake City Cemetery (E.8.1) (Sort name
>> Utah=2C SLC Cemetery (E.8.1))
>> - USA=2C Utah=2C Salt Lake=2C Salt Lake City Cemetery (Park.36.2)
>> To get a list of all cemeteries (and those in these cemeteries) I do
>> the following:
>> - Tag each desired cemetery location
>> - In the Location Report I select "Only Tagged Locations" under
>> Include and "Include Latitude & Longitude" under Options
>> For those locations without a Lat/Log (or not correct):
>> - In the Master Location List=2C I find the correct site on the map and
>> right click to set the Lat/Long
>> Then I can create a map of the cemetery and where my ancestors are
>> located in it. I can also click on any (cemetery) location and the
>> map moves to place that location in the center of the screen.
>>
>> Probably not what you are looking for=2C but it is another way of
>> approaching the issue. This is what I do.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed=2C Oct 7=2C 2009 at 4:04 AM=2C Dede Holden wrote:
>>> I think I know the answer to this=2C but I want to be sure I'm not
>>> missing something.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know of a way to print a report that shows Event Addresses
>>> and their map coordinates? I'm particularly interested in the
>>> cemeteries listed in my database.
>>>
>>> I'd like to know which ones I already have and which ones I need to
>>> find and enter.
>>>
>>> I can't find an option to print this info anywhere.
>>>
>>> I've looked at three different places and can't find a way to do this.
>>>
>>> 1. Search - Detailed Search
>>>
>>> 2. View - Master Lists - Address Lists - Events
>>>
>>> 3. Reports - Event Reports - doesn't even include burials=2C since it's
>>> not considered an Event.
>>>
>>> I've printed my event address list as mailing labels=2C but the only wa=
y
>>> I can find to get the Lat/Long info is to open each address from the
>>> list and see if the info is there or not.
>>>
>>> If anyone sees a way that I've missed=2C I'd love to hear from you. If
>>> you know for a fact that it can't be done=2C let me know that also.
>>>
>>> I've searched the archives=2C and it seems that I'm going to have to
>>> create a Cemetery event for each individual=2C then include the lat/lon=
g
>>> for each location. Seems a little redundant since that info is
>>> already included in the Burial field=2C but if that's what I have to do=
=2C
>>> I'll just dig in and get started. I was only going to do that for the
>>> large cemeteries where the coordinates are different for different
>>> graves. Most of my cemeteries are very small=2C rural cemeteries and
>>> one set of coordinates works for everyone buried there.
>>>
>>> Thanks for any help/ideas.
>>>
>>> Dede Holden
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] No report indices in text format, & other bugs in reports

[Ron Ferguson]

Mike Fry wrote:

D MG wrote:

Just don't rely on the Irish this time around! ;-)



I think the Ulstermen might help, and what about the native peoples?

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Oh dear: while America sleeps the world moves on . ;-)

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Re: [LegacyUG] how to print Event Address Coordinates

[Dede Holden]

Bruce and Leo,

This is what I was trying to avoid.  I have chosen to show only city,
county, state in the burial location. (Because that's what the
Tutorials taught, and I always wanted to be the teacher's pet!)  I may
have to change, but that will require that I figure out how to use
Dennis' wonderful Ltools, which I've purchased, but haven't taken time
to learn.

Leo's report is a good one, but it just gives the lat/long of the
Burial places NOT the Cemetery addresses.

I'll mull this over a little longer and decide which task I want to
undertake - changing all my burial locations to include the cemetery
name or manually going through the address list to see which ones need
lat/long info.

Thanks for your input.  I did learn a little from both of you about
customizing reports, so this was not a totally wasted effort.

Always looking for the positive!
Dede

On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Bruce Jones  wrote:
> This is what I do.
> - I put the cemetery name in the Location field instead of the Event Addresses
> - Since most of my ancestors are buried in one very large cemetery, I
> have created multiple Locations, one for each section of the cemetery
> (guess I am a location "splitter")
> - So my locations look like this:
> - USA, Utah, Salt Lake, Salt Lake City Cemetery (E.8.1) (Sort name
> Utah, SLC Cemetery (E.8.1))
> - USA, Utah, Salt Lake, Salt Lake City Cemetery (Park.36.2)
> To get a list of all cemeteries (and those in these cemeteries) I do
> the following:
> - Tag each desired cemetery location
> - In the Location Report I select "Only Tagged Locations" under
> Include and "Include Latitude & Longitude" under Options
> For those locations without a Lat/Log (or not correct):
> - In the Master Location List, I find the correct site on the map and
> right click to set the Lat/Long
> Then I can create a map of the cemetery and where my ancestors are
> located in it.  I can also click on any (cemetery) location and the
> map moves to place that location in the center of the screen.
>
> Probably not what you are looking for, but it is another way of
> approaching the issue.  This is what I do.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 4:04 AM, Dede Holden  wrote:
>> I think I know the answer to this, but I want to be sure I'm not
>> missing something.
>>
>> Does anyone know of a way to print a report that shows Event Addresses
>> and their map coordinates?  I'm particularly interested in the
>> cemeteries listed in my database.
>>
>> I'd like to know which ones I already have and which ones I need to
>> find and enter.
>>
>> I can't find an option to print this info anywhere.
>>
>> I've looked at three different places and can't find a way to do this.
>>
>> 1. Search - Detailed Search
>>
>> 2. View - Master Lists - Address Lists - Events
>>
>> 3. Reports - Event Reports - doesn't even include burials, since it's
>> not considered an Event.
>>
>> I've printed my event address list as mailing labels, but the only way
>> I can find to get the Lat/Long info is to open each address from the
>> list and see if the info is there or not.
>>
>> If anyone sees a way that I've missed, I'd love to hear from you.  If
>> you know for a fact that it can't be done, let me know that also.
>>
>> I've searched the archives, and it seems that I'm going to have to
>> create a Cemetery event for each individual, then include the lat/long
>> for each location.  Seems a little redundant since that info is
>> already included in the Burial field, but if that's what I have to do,
>> I'll just dig in and get started.  I was only going to do that for the
>> large cemeteries where the coordinates are different for different
>> graves.  Most of my cemeteries are very small, rural cemeteries and
>> one set of coordinates works for everyone buried there.
>>
>> Thanks for any help/ideas.
>>
>> Dede Holden



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Re: [LegacyUG] No report indices in text format, & other bugs in reports

[Mike Fry]

D MG wrote:

Just don't rely on the Irish this time around! ;-)
 


I think the Ulstermen might help, and what about the native peoples?

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Re: [LegacyUG] No report indices in text format, & other bugs in reports

[Ron Ferguson]

Mike Fry wrote:

Ron Ferguson wrote:

Brian L. Lightfoot wrote:

You people drive on the wrong side of the street anyhow. :-)

Brian in CA


Please see my comment in response to Dennis - an INDICES over here
is used as a superscripted number referencing another place, or a
power to which a number may be raised. x squared would have an
indices of 2. The superscripted number referencing a source is an
indices.

Ron Ferguson



Now Brian, English is *our* language - that's why it is called
"English" :-)


Need any help Ron? Always willing to re-fight the so-called War of
Independence.

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Mike Fry
Johannesburg.


LOL

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Re: [LegacyUG] No report indices in text format, & other bugs in reports

[D MG]

Just don't rely on the Irish this time around! ;-)

Dermot.

--

Sent from Dublin, Ireland
Stephen 
Leacock
- "I detest life-insurance agents: they always argue that I shall some
day
die, which is not so."

2009/10/8 Mike Fry 

> Ron Ferguson wrote:
>
>> Brian L. Lightfoot wrote:
>>
>>>  You people drive on the wrong side of the street anyhow. :-)

 Brian in CA


 Please see my comment in response to Dennis - an INDICES over here
 is used as a superscripted number referencing another place, or a
 power to which a number may be raised. x squared would have an
 indices of 2. The superscripted number referencing a source is an
 indices.

 Ron Ferguson


>> Now Brian, English is *our* language - that's why it is called "English"
>> :-)
>>
>
> Need any help Ron? Always willing to re-fight the so-called War of
> Independence.
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Mike Fry
> Johannesburg.
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Some report problems

[Mike Fry]

Jan Roberts wrote:

In trying to test some report behaviour in order to respond to the index
problems experienced by CE I discovered a couple of other problems in .rtf
reports.  After the lines giving instructions about creating your own index
I get a short second set of source citations, numbered from 1. again.  There
is plenty or room for these citations to fit on the last page of the long
list of citations.

The second problem is that if a direct descendant is married their picture
doesn't appear - only that of their spouse.  If the direct descendant is
unmarried their picture appears.  I have options set for show pictures of
husband and wife, show all preferred.  They have always shown in other
reports, specifically the Descendant Narrative.  Can anyone reproduce?



I'm afraid that RTF is yet another example of Microsoft coming up with a 
standard that they hoped would be adopted world-wide and then moving the 
goal posts.


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Re: [LegacyUG] No report indices in text format, & other bugs in reports

[Mike Fry]

Ron Ferguson wrote:

Brian L. Lightfoot wrote:

You people drive on the wrong side of the street anyhow. :-)

Brian in CA


Please see my comment in response to Dennis - an INDICES over here
is used as a superscripted number referencing another place, or a
power to which a number may be raised. x squared would have an
indices of 2. The superscripted number referencing a source is an
indices.

Ron Ferguson



Now Brian, English is *our* language - that's why it is called "English" 
:-)


Need any help Ron? Always willing to re-fight the so-called War of 
Independence.


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Mike Fry
Johannesburg.



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Re: [LegacyUG] No report indices in text format, & other bugs in reports

[Ron Ferguson]

Brian L. Lightfoot wrote:

You people drive on the wrong side of the street anyhow. :-)

Brian in CA


-Original Message-
From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:rnldfe...@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 4:32 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] No report indices in text format, & other
bugs in reports

Please see my comment in response to Dennis - an INDICES over here
is used as a superscripted number referencing another place, or a
power to which a number may be raised. x squared would have an
indices of 2. The superscripted number referencing a source is an
indices.

Ron Ferguson



Now Brian, English is *our* language - that's why it is called "English" :-)

Ron Ferguson
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