Re: [LegacyUG] Adoption Question
An upgrade from one version to another is a whole different animal and risk level than an incremental build update of an existing installed version. I will not call you chicken however. VBG Gary - Original Message - From: Kirsten Bowman vik...@rvi.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 5:07 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Adoption Question Gary: Sounds very sensible, but I waited two months before upgrading to 7.0 and then suffered through endless months of headaches with a totally useless (to me) program because of the source citation bugs and inability to produce any satisfactory reports. I'm not chancing that again. Call me chicken G. Kirsten -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of Gary Templeman Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 4:01 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Adoption Question However, it was released July 17 and in three weeks there have not been reports on this list of major new problems so I would not call it premature to update now. When there are a lot of users it usually doesn't take long for big issues to raise their head so after a week or two you should feel pretty confident. Besides, these updates typically contain both new features AND important bug fixes, so the benefits almost always outweigh the risks. Gary Templeman - Original Message - From: Kirsten Bowman vik...@rvi.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 2:03 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Adoption Question Sorry, Ron, but I've been snookered into premature updates before. Once burned, twice shy. Checks are in place as you recommended. Thanks. Kirsten -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 12:20 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Adoption Question Kirsten, Although not relevant to your problem I would suggest that you update to 7.0.0.100. On Descendant Book ReportReport OptionsInclude, ensure that child status and Child-parent relationship are checked. Ron Ferguson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Adoption Question
Using Legacy Deluxe 7.0.0.9. Neither Help nor Customize give any clues, so . . . I have a child with known birth parents (the Browns) and known adoptive parents (the Petries). There may be a relationship between the two couples, but that is currently unknown. I've entered the child (Hannah Brown) as a daughter of both sets of parents and noted her Child Status as Adopted by the Petries. The only place I see any indication of the adoption is on the Assigned Sources screen for Hannah and on the panel next to the Name List (buried under the Family tab). There's nothing I can see that appears on Hannah's Individual Information screen to indicate she had two sets of parents, and nothing prints in Descendant Book Reports for either set of parents regarding the adoptive situation. Is there a flag, icon, or a setting somewhere that I'm not seeing? I don't want to lose track of this situation and would like to see it noted somehow in the Descendant Book Report. Is that possible? Kirsten Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Adoption Question
Kirsten, Although not relevant to your problem I would suggest that you update to 7.0.0.100. On Descendant Book ReportReport OptionsInclude, ensure that child status and Child-parent relationship are checked. Ron Ferguson _ Tutorials: Programme of adding videos commenced http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: vik...@rvi.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Adoption Question Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 12:03:53 -0700 Using Legacy Deluxe 7.0.0.9. Neither Help nor Customize give any clues, so . . . I have a child with known birth parents (the Browns) and known adoptive parents (the Petries). There may be a relationship between the two couples, but that is currently unknown. I've entered the child (Hannah Brown) as a daughter of both sets of parents and noted her Child Status as Adopted by the Petries. The only place I see any indication of the adoption is on the Assigned Sources screen for Hannah and on the panel next to the Name List (buried under the Family tab). There's nothing I can see that appears on Hannah's Individual Information screen to indicate she had two sets of parents, and nothing prints in Descendant Book Reports for either set of parents regarding the adoptive situation. Is there a flag, icon, or a setting somewhere that I'm not seeing? I don't want to lose track of this situation and would like to see it noted somehow in the Descendant Book Report. Is that possible? Kirsten _ Upgrade to Internet Explorer 8 Optimised for MSN. http://extras.uk.msn.com/internet-explorer-8/?ocid=T010MSN07A0716U Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Adoption Question
On Hannah's Individual Information Screen, add the Event - Adoption. Enter the information you have regarding the adoption. The indication that she has two sets of parents is on the Family View Screen. Under her information on that screen, there are icons, one of which is Parents (a couple with white hair). If you have entered her as a child of both sets of parents, there will be a box to the lower left of the Parents icon that will have a 2 in it. When you click on the Parents icon, she will have two sets of parents shown. There are boxes at the bottom of that Parents Screen: Child Status, Relationship to Father, and Relationship to Mother. For each highlighted set of parents, enter the appropriate from the drop-down list. In the Descendant Book Report for any one of the 4 parents, she will show. At her generation level, the Event of her adoption will also show. You should also experiment with the Report OptionsInclude Tab for the report, on which there are options to include Child Status and/or Child-parent relationships. CE -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Kirsten Bowman Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 12:04 PM To: LegacyUserGroup Subject: [LegacyUG] Adoption Question Using Legacy Deluxe 7.0.0.9. Neither Help nor Customize give any clues, so . . I have a child with known birth parents (the Browns) and known adoptive parents (the Petries). There may be a relationship between the two couples, but that is currently unknown. I've entered the child (Hannah Brown) as a daughter of both sets of parents and noted her Child Status as Adopted by the Petries. The only place I see any indication of the adoption is on the Assigned Sources screen for Hannah and on the panel next to the Name List (buried under the Family tab). There's nothing I can see that appears on Hannah's Individual Information screen to indicate she had two sets of parents, and nothing prints in Descendant Book Reports for either set of parents regarding the adoptive situation. Is there a flag, icon, or a setting somewhere that I'm not seeing? I don't want to lose track of this situation and would like to see it noted somehow in the Descendant Book Report. Is that possible? Kirsten Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.45/2286 - Release Date: 08/07/09 18:37:00 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Adoption Question
CE: Thanks for the very thorough instructions. The problem was that for some reason I didn't have the Parents icon on the toolbar. It works a treat and provides the perfect flag for the situation. Kirsten -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of CE Wood Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 12:33 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Adoption Question On Hannah's Individual Information Screen, add the Event - Adoption. Enter the information you have regarding the adoption. The indication that she has two sets of parents is on the Family View Screen. Under her information on that screen, there are icons, one of which is Parents (a couple with white hair). If you have entered her as a child of both sets of parents, there will be a box to the lower left of the Parents icon that will have a 2 in it. When you click on the Parents icon, she will have two sets of parents shown. There are boxes at the bottom of that Parents Screen: Child Status, Relationship to Father, and Relationship to Mother. For each highlighted set of parents, enter the appropriate from the drop-down list. In the Descendant Book Report for any one of the 4 parents, she will show. At her generation level, the Event of her adoption will also show. You should also experiment with the Report OptionsInclude Tab for the report, on which there are options to include Child Status and/or Child-parent relationships. CE -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Kirsten Bowman Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 12:04 PM To: LegacyUserGroup Subject: [LegacyUG] Adoption Question Using Legacy Deluxe 7.0.0.9. Neither Help nor Customize give any clues, so . . I have a child with known birth parents (the Browns) and known adoptive parents (the Petries). There may be a relationship between the two couples, but that is currently unknown. I've entered the child (Hannah Brown) as a daughter of both sets of parents and noted her Child Status as Adopted by the Petries. The only place I see any indication of the adoption is on the Assigned Sources screen for Hannah and on the panel next to the Name List (buried under the Family tab). There's nothing I can see that appears on Hannah's Individual Information screen to indicate she had two sets of parents, and nothing prints in Descendant Book Reports for either set of parents regarding the adoptive situation. Is there a flag, icon, or a setting somewhere that I'm not seeing? I don't want to lose track of this situation and would like to see it noted somehow in the Descendant Book Report. Is that possible? Kirsten Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Adoption Question
Gary: Sounds very sensible, but I waited two months before upgrading to 7.0 and then suffered through endless months of headaches with a totally useless (to me) program because of the source citation bugs and inability to produce any satisfactory reports. I'm not chancing that again. Call me chicken G. Kirsten -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of Gary Templeman Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 4:01 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Adoption Question However, it was released July 17 and in three weeks there have not been reports on this list of major new problems so I would not call it premature to update now. When there are a lot of users it usually doesn't take long for big issues to raise their head so after a week or two you should feel pretty confident. Besides, these updates typically contain both new features AND important bug fixes, so the benefits almost always outweigh the risks. Gary Templeman - Original Message - From: Kirsten Bowman vik...@rvi.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 2:03 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Adoption Question Sorry, Ron, but I've been snookered into premature updates before. Once burned, twice shy. Checks are in place as you recommended. Thanks. Kirsten -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 12:20 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Adoption Question Kirsten, Although not relevant to your problem I would suggest that you update to 7.0.0.100. On Descendant Book ReportReport OptionsInclude, ensure that child status and Child-parent relationship are checked. Ron Ferguson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Adoption Question
I do not know what aded poll is, don't need to, but you should describe what it is in your explanation of the name change. Must be an Aussie thing. ;-) Rich in LA CA --- Jan Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a two-names-required situation (because of deed poll, not adoption). My late first husband changed his name by deed poll before we met. So I have only known him by his 'chosen' name (which happened to be his mother's maiden name) and our daughter's surname has always been the 'chosen' surname. So in Legacy I have entered him with the surname he legally had all our life together. His siblings are entered with their birth surname - all to the same set of parents. I have recorded his birth name as an AKA, but I have also added a Deed Poll event to explain the situation. So in your case, I would use the surname that the child is known by now and record the other as an AKA - perhaps with notes in an Adoption event to explain the circumstances. Happy New Year!!! Cheers, Jan From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Shirley Woolley Sent: Sunday, 6 January 2008 4:59:AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Adoption Question I know how to change the adoption status. My question is how to show the two different last names. Do I have the same individual with two last names? Charles No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1210 - Release Date: 5.01.2008 11:46:AM Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Adoption Question
Rich in LA CA wrote: I do not know what a deed poll is A deed poll is a legal document which shows a person's intention to change his/her name. It's not just an Aussie thing. I don't know what it's called in other parts of the world. Maureen Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Adoption Question
Maureen, It is exactly the same in the UK. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *New Blog* Protect Your PC View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Adoption Question Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 11:06:34 +1100 Rich in LA CA wrote: I do not know what a deed poll is A deed poll is a legal document which shows a person's intention to change his/her name. It's not just an Aussie thing. I don't know what it's called in other parts of the world. Maureen _ Who's friends with who and co-starred in what? http://www.searchgamesbox.com/celebrityseparation.shtml Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Adoption Question
How do I handle a situation such as the following. I have a husband and wife they have a child. They divorce. The mother remarries. The new father adopts the child and the child takes the new fathers last name. Thanks07_header.gif07_footer.gif
RE: [LegacyUG] Adoption Question
I think that all you would do is add the child to both fathers. First you have a marriage between the two original parents, add the child. Do the divorce. Add the second husband to the wife. Click add a child, select link to an existing son. You will get the message that (Childs name) is already a child of another family add as a child to this family also? click OK. Donna Newell -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Shirley Woolley Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 8:07 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Adoption Question How do I handle a situation such as the following. I have a husband and wife, they have a child. They divorce. The mother remarries. The new father adopts the child and the child takes the new fathers last name. Thanks Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp 07_header.gif07_footer.gif
RE: [LegacyUG] Adoption Question
Additionally, See HelpShow Help Index...Adoption Status for details on setting each of the Parent's relationships (Biological, Adopted etc.). Things like this are explained very well in the training video CDs. A worthwhile investment for getting much more out of the program. P.S. Please turn off the stationary and send messages as plain text. See: Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Posted at the end of every message. Thanks, Tim From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donna Newell Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 12:28 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Adoption Question I think that all you would do is add the child to both fathers. First you have a marriage between the two original parents, add the child. Do the divorce. Add the second husband to the wife. Click add a child, select link to an existing son. You will get the message that (Childs name) is already a child of another family add as a child to this family also? click OK. Donna Newell -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Shirley Woolley Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 8:07 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Adoption Question How do I handle a situation such as the following. I have a husband and wife, they have a child. They divorce. The mother remarries. The new father adopts the child and the child takes the new fathers last name. Thanks Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Adoption Question
Well, this is exactly my own situation, except that my own father died. My sister and I were subsequently adopted by our stepfather when our mother remarried. I find now, some 55 years since the death of my father (and the death of both my mother and stepfather) I have reverted to the use of my genetic surname although I was married in my adopted father's surname (confusion for great-grandchildren!). However, on the family card of my stepfather and mother, my sister and I appear twice - as both 'adopted' child status and 1/2 children along with our two brothers - who were adult at the time of my mother's re-marriage - who only appear once. Elizabeth H. Charles Shirley Woolley wrote: How do I handle a situation such as the following. I have a husband and wife they have a child. They divorce. The mother remarries. The new father adopts the child and the child takes the new fathers last name. Thanks Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Adoption Question
I know how to change the adoption status. My question is how to show the two different last names. Do I have the same individual with two last names? Charles ---Original Message--- From: Timothy K. Cox Date: 1/5/2008 11:41:43 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Adoption Question Additionally, See HelpShow Help Index...Adoption Status for details on setting each of the Parent's relationships (Biological, Adopted etc.). Things like this are explained very well in the training video CDs. A worthwhile investment for getting much more out of the program. P.S. Please turn off the stationary and send messages as plain text. See: Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Posted at the end of every message. Thanks, Tim From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donna Newell Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 12:28 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Adoption Question I think that all you would do is add the child to both fathers. First you have a marriage between the two original parents, add the child. Do the divorce. Add the second husband to the wife. Click add a child, select link to an existing son. You will get the message that (Childs name) is already a child of another family add as a child to this family also? click OK. Donna Newell -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Shirley Woolley Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 8:07 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Adoption Question How do I handle a situation such as the following. I have a husband and wife, they have a child. They divorce. The mother remarries. The new father adopts the child and the child takes the new fathers last name. Thanks Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Adoption Question
You might choose to use alternate names. In the family view, click on the icon of the repeating person to add the AKA. At present, Legacy does not have a method to see at a glance which surname was used. However, changes can be documented in the notes. Dawn Charles Shirley Woolley wrote: I know how to change the adoption status. My question is how to show the two different last names. Do I have the same individual with two last names? Charles ---Original Message--- From: Timothy K. Cox mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 1/5/2008 11:41:43 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com mailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Adoption Question Additionally, See HelpShow Help Index...Adoption Status for details on setting each of the Parent's relationships (Biological, Adopted etc.). Things like this are explained very well in the training video CDs. A worthwhile investment for getting much more out of the program. P.S. Please turn off the stationary and send messages as plain text. See: Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Posted at the end of every message. Thanks, Tim From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donna Newell Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 12:28 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com mailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Adoption Question I think that all you would do is add the child to both fathers. First you have a marriage between the two original parents, add the child. Do the divorce. Add the second husband to the wife. Click add a child, select link to an existing son. You will get the message that (Childs name) is already a child of another family add as a child to this family also? click OK. Donna Newell -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Shirley Woolley Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 8:07 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com mailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Adoption Question How do I handle a situation such as the following. I have a husband and wife, they have a child. They divorce. The mother remarries. The new father adopts the child and the child takes the new fathers last name. Thanks Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Adoption Question
You can use the AKA to record other names the person was known as. That's the icon in Family View that has three heads lined up. In this case, I'd record the birth name as the main name and use the AKA for the adopted name, but you may want to do it the other way around - the choice is yours. In the Name List you can choose to have AKAs displayed - click on Options in the Name List and select Include Alternate Names. Hope this helps. :-) Kind Regards, Wendy Howard -- Kaiwaka, Northland, New Zealand http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wendyh65/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7Ewendyh65/ - Original Message - *From:* Charles Shirley Woolley [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com *Sent:* 01/06/2008 6:59:10 AM +1300 *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Adoption Question I know how to change the adoption status. My question is how to show the two different last names. Do I have the same individual with two last names? Charles Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Adoption Question
Thanks Elizabeth. Life sure gets complicated. I will try your suggestion and see what happens. ---Original Message--- From: Hope Bagot Bees Date: 01/05/08 12:05:28 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Adoption Question Well, this is exactly my own situation, except that my own father died. My sister and I were subsequently adopted by our stepfather when our mother remarried. I find now, some 55 years since the death of my father (and the death of both my mother and stepfather) I have reverted to the use of my genetic surname although I was married in my adopted father's surname (confusion for great-grandchildren!). However, on the family card of my stepfather and mother, my sister and I appear twice - as both 'adopted' child status and 1/2 children along with our two brothers - who were adult at the time of my mother's re-marriage - who only appear once. Elizabeth H. Charles Shirley Woolley wrote: How do I handle a situation such as the following. I have a husband and wife they have a child. They divorce. The mother remarries. The new father adopts the child and the child takes the new fathers last name. Thanks Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Adoption Question
That's a slightly different question. I'm not sure of any other possible solutions but, the Alternate Names (AKA) field seems to be the most appropriate place to handle this. Once the preferred name is chosen, this is the name that will be put in the individual's Surname field and be displayed. There is an option at the bottom of the alternate names window to 'Swap Alternate Name with Main Name' if needed. Under the 'Name List' window, the 'Options' can be changed to show Alternate Names (preceded by a ~). Report options can also be modified to show the alternate names. Finally, clicking on the Individual's field label area in the Family view tab allows the displayed fields to be modified to include AKAs. Tim From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Shirley Woolley Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 12:59 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Adoption Question I know how to change the adoption status. My question is how to show the two different last names. Do I have the same individual with two last names? Charles ---Original Message--- From: Timothy K. Cox mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 1/5/2008 11:41:43 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Adoption Question Additionally, See HelpShow Help Index...Adoption Status for details on setting each of the Parent's relationships (Biological, Adopted etc.). Things like this are explained very well in the training video CDs. A worthwhile investment for getting much more out of the program. P.S. Please turn off the stationary and send messages as plain text. See: Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Posted at the end of every message. Thanks, Tim From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donna Newell Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 12:28 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Adoption Question I think that all you would do is add the child to both fathers. First you have a marriage between the two original parents, add the child. Do the divorce. Add the second husband to the wife. Click add a child, select link to an existing son. You will get the message that (Childs name) is already a child of another family add as a child to this family also? click OK. Donna Newell -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Shirley Woolley Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 8:07 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Adoption Question How do I handle a situation such as the following. I have a husband and wife, they have a child. They divorce. The mother remarries. The new father adopts the child and the child takes the new fathers last name. Thanks Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Adoption Question
Thanks Dawn. I will try your suggestion. Charles ---Original Message--- From: Dawn Crowley Date: 01/05/08 13:04:24 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Adoption Question You might choose to use alternate names. In the family view, click on the icon of the repeating person to add the AKA. At present, Legacy does not have a method to see at a glance which surname was used. However, changes can be documented in the notes. Dawn Charles Shirley Woolley wrote: I know how to change the adoption status. My question is how to show the two different last names. Do I have the same individual with two last names? Charles ---Original Message--- From: Timothy K. Cox mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 1/5/2008 11:41:43 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com mailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Adoption Question Additionally, See HelpShow Help Index...Adoption Status for details on setting each of the Parent's relationships (Biological, Adopted etc.). Things like this are explained very well in the training video CDs. A worthwhile investment for getting much more out of the program. P.S. Please turn off the stationary and send messages as plain text. See: Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Posted at the end of every message. Thanks, Tim From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donna Newell Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 12:28 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com mailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Adoption Question I think that all you would do is add the child to both fathers. First you have a marriage between the two original parents, add the child. Do the divorce. Add the second husband to the wife. Click add a child, select link to an existing son. You will get the message that (Childs name) is already a child of another family add as a child to this family also? click OK. Donna Newell -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Shirley Woolley Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 8:07 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com mailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Adoption Question How do I handle a situation such as the following. I have a husband and wife, they have a child. They divorce. The mother remarries. The new father adopts the child and the child takes the new fathers last name. Thanks Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Adoption Question
Choose which is/was used in life most, make the other names AKA's. Rich in LA CA --- Charles Shirley Woolley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do I handle a situation such as the following. I have a husband and wife they have a child. They divorce. The mother remarries. The new father adopts the child and the child takes the new fathers last name. Thanks Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Adoption Question
I have a two-names-required situation (because of deed poll, not adoption). My late first husband changed his name by deed poll before we met. So I have only known him by his 'chosen' name (which happened to be his mother's maiden name) and our daughter's surname has always been the 'chosen' surname. So in Legacy I have entered him with the surname he legally had all our life together. His siblings are entered with their birth surname - all to the same set of parents. I have recorded his birth name as an AKA, but I have also added a Deed Poll event to explain the situation. So in your case, I would use the surname that the child is known by now and record the other as an AKA - perhaps with notes in an Adoption event to explain the circumstances. Happy New Year!!! Cheers, Jan From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Shirley Woolley Sent: Sunday, 6 January 2008 4:59:AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Adoption Question I know how to change the adoption status. My question is how to show the two different last names. Do I have the same individual with two last names? Charles No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1210 - Release Date: 5.01.2008 11:46:AM Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Adoption Question
As long as you have everything explained somewhere, no matter how you enter it it will be ok. Michele - Original Message - From: Jan Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 6:24 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Adoption Question I have a two-names-required situation (because of deed poll, not adoption). My late first husband changed his name by deed poll before we met. So I have only known him by his 'chosen' name (which happened to be his mother's maiden name) and our daughter's surname has always been the 'chosen' surname. So in Legacy I have entered him with the surname he legally had all our life together. His siblings are entered with their birth surname - all to the same set of parents. I have recorded his birth name as an AKA, but I have also added a Deed Poll event to explain the situation. So in your case, I would use the surname that the child is known by now and record the other as an AKA - perhaps with notes in an Adoption event to explain the circumstances. Happy New Year!!! Cheers, Jan From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Shirley Woolley Sent: Sunday, 6 January 2008 4:59:AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Adoption Question I know how to change the adoption status. My question is how to show the two different last names. Do I have the same individual with two last names? Charles No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1210 - Release Date: 5.01.2008 11:46:AM Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Adoption Question
I have the same exact situation in my family. The child is listed in Legacy with the legal name (adoptive name) as the main name. The birth name is only listed in my notes as private. The reason is that court records for the adoptions in the US are usually sealed. As a researcher, you need to keep the information private unless you have the consent of all parties involved to make it public - that is the law regarding sealed records. The birth father, the adoptive father, the birth mother and the child all have equal rights in regards to privacy and the rights of one party does not supersede the other. Details of the divorce are different. Divorce records are not usually sealed and can be accessed once the municipality's time frame to make them public record is reached. There is also a slightly different situation where a child was adopted by both parents and was never told that she was adopted. Now as an adult, she cannot ask her parents questions because they are deceased. The birth parents are unknown and at this point to bring up the adoption would cause more harm than good, again its in my private files. Treat adoptions with care and discretion. Linda Altman http://www.southerngenealogy.com _ From: Charles Shirley Woolley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 11:07 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Adoption Question How do I handle a situation such as the following. I have a husband and wife, they have a child. They divorce. The mother remarries. The new father adopts the child and the child takes the new fathers last name. Thanks Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp image001.gifimage002.gif
Re: [LegacyUG] Adoption Question
I think if it were me, I'd do it this way: Child born James Lee Smith and the Johnson's adopt him. In the first name field I'd put James Lee (Smith) and in the Sir name I'd put Johnson. Then in the notes I'd elaborate on the adoption. From: Charles Shirley Woolley Thanks Dawn. I will try your suggestion. From: Dawn Crowley You might choose to use alternate names. In the family view, click on the icon of the repeating person to add the AKA. At present, Legacy does not have a method to see at a glance which surname was used. However, changes can be documented in the notes. Dawn Charles Shirley Woolley wrote: I know how to change the adoption status. My question is how to show the two different last names. Do I have the same individual with two last names? Charles ---Original Message--- From: Timothy K. Cox mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 1/5/2008 11:41:43 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com mailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Adoption Question Additionally, See HelpShow Help Index...Adoption Status for details on setting each of the Parent's relationships (Biological, Adopted etc.). Things like this are explained very well in the training video CDs. A worthwhile investment for getting much more out of the program. P.S. Please turn off the stationary and send messages as plain text. See: Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Posted at the end of every message. Thanks, Tim From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donna Newell Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 12:28 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com mailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Adoption Question I think that all you would do is add the child to both fathers. First you have a marriage between the two original parents, add the child. Do the divorce. Add the second husband to the wife. Click add a child, select link to an existing son. You will get the message that (Childs name) is already a child of another family add as a child to this family also? click OK. Donna Newell -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Shirley Woolley Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 8:07 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com mailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Adoption Question How do I handle a situation such as the following. I have a husband and wife, they have a child. They divorce. The mother remarries. The new father adopts the child and the child takes the new fathers last name. Thanks Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
