Re: [LegacyUG] Export of Individuals marked as "Invisible" Bug
John, Let's raise the tone on this list. Did you see the responses to my post on Software Testing? I got several more like that off-list too. While I feel your pain, your last 2 sentences are not welcome on this list. Ward - Original Message - From: "Geoff Poskitt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 2:37 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Export of Individuals marked as "Invisible" Bug Hi All, thanks for the advice as to how you can work around this. I too have umpteen methods that I have used in the past. But the point is that the new feature in Legacy 7 means that you do not need to do any of this faffing around. Just mark the sensitive individuals as invisible in the master file and you never have to worry again. All exports of any kind will exclude them. This is why I am so miffed that such a useful feature has been botched by Millenia. The implementation is not rocket science. Regards, John - Original Message - ... Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Export of Individuals marked as "Invisible" Bug
Hi All, thanks for the advice as to how you can work around this. I too have umpteen methods that I have used in the past. But the point is that the new feature in Legacy 7 means that you do not need to do any of this faffing around. Just mark the sensitive individuals as invisible in the master file and you never have to worry again. All exports of any kind will exclude them. This is why I am so miffed that such a useful feature has been botched by Millenia. The implementation is not rocket science. Regards, John - Original Message - From: "Kirsten Bowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 1:54 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Export of Individuals marked as "Invisible" Bug An easy workaround that I've found is this: After the gedcom is created I open it in an old version of FTM. There's an option there to list all individuals by date of birth. It takes only a minute to check the list and verify that there are no inappropriate entries included. If the list is clean, I blow away the FTM file and send the gedcom. If Legacy can do the same thing as easily, would someone explain how? Kirsten -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of RICHARD SCHULTHIES Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 3:20 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Export of Individuals marked as "Invisible" Bug I think what you are looking for is probably handled best by creating a second file (started as duplicate), and delete from the second one, with a possible name 'invisible' or like, which will completely hide? the concerned people. You will need to remember to do changes for both, or they will become more 'different' in time. Rich in LA CA --- On Fri, 9/12/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [LegacyUG] Export of Individuals marked as "Invisible" Bug To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Date: Friday, September 12, 2008, 1:40 AM Hi,I consider the addition of the setting individuals to "invisible" feature in Legacy 7 to be absolutely the thing that I need to sanitize my tree before exporting. Private or Living is not sufficient since the existence people needs to be hidden. Unfortunate therefore that this feature does not work. It is now some time since you acknowledged the bug. When can we expect a fix??Regards,JTB Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Export of Individuals marked as "Invisible" Bug
An easy workaround that I've found is this: After the gedcom is created I open it in an old version of FTM. There's an option there to list all individuals by date of birth. It takes only a minute to check the list and verify that there are no inappropriate entries included. If the list is clean, I blow away the FTM file and send the gedcom. If Legacy can do the same thing as easily, would someone explain how? Kirsten -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of RICHARD SCHULTHIES Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 3:20 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Export of Individuals marked as "Invisible" Bug I think what you are looking for is probably handled best by creating a second file (started as duplicate), and delete from the second one, with a possible name 'invisible' or like, which will completely hide? the concerned people. You will need to remember to do changes for both, or they will become more 'different' in time. Rich in LA CA --- On Fri, 9/12/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [LegacyUG] Export of Individuals marked as "Invisible" Bug > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com > Date: Friday, September 12, 2008, 1:40 AM > Hi,I consider the addition of the setting individuals > to "invisible" feature in Legacy 7 to be > absolutely the thing > that I need to sanitize my tree before exporting. Private > or Living is > not sufficient since the existence people needs to be > hidden. > Unfortunate therefore that this feature does not work. It > is now some time since you > acknowledged the bug. When can we expect a fix??Regards,JTB Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Export of Individuals marked as "Invisible" Bug
I think what you are looking for is probably handled best by creating a second file (started as duplicate), and delete from the second one, with a possible name 'invisible' or like, which will completely hide? the concerned people. You will need to remember to do changes for both, or they will become more 'different' in time. Rich in LA CA --- On Fri, 9/12/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [LegacyUG] Export of Individuals marked as "Invisible" Bug > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com > Date: Friday, September 12, 2008, 1:40 AM > Hi,I consider the addition of the setting individuals > to "invisible" feature in Legacy 7 to be > absolutely the thing > that I need to sanitize my tree before exporting. Private > or Living is > not sufficient since the existence people needs to be > hidden. > Unfortunate therefore that this feature does not work. It > is now some time since you > acknowledged the bug. When can we expect a fix??Regards,JTB > > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Re: [LegacyUG] Export of Individuals marked as "Invisible" Bug
John, I haven't looked for a while, but you are correct in saying that it does not work in web pages. However I recently noticed (this week) that two relatives were missing from a Descendant Book Report and this was because some time ago when I was really looking at the "invisible" function, I made them invisible and forget to bring them back! So at least it is working in that report. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Insert Pictures Into your Web Pages - Blogs http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:25:33 +0200 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Re: [LegacyUG] Export of Individuals marked as "Invisible" Bug From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ron, Basically if you edit an individual's privacy settings and set him to invisible, he should not appear on any exports or web pages, nor should his descendents. This is what invisible is supposed to do. I have I have done a number of experiments to see if there is anything related to invisible that works at all. I have found no work around, nor any indication that the function works in certain circumstances. An invisible person is always exported as are living individuals if you set "exclude living people totally (as if they don't exist"" I am using the latest 70055 build and it could be that if it half worked in a previous version, they took it out completely in 70055. Regards, John -Original Message- Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 11:30:35 +0200 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Export of Individuals marked as "Invisible" Bug From: ronald ferguson To: John, I know of a couple of problems with this function, and have found a work around for one of them, but would you please explain what you problem is in detail. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Insert Pictures Into your Web Pages - Blogs http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 10:40:46 +0200 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Export of Individuals marked as "Invisible" Bug From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I consider the addition of the setting individuals to "invisible" feature in Legacy 7 to be absolutely the thing that I need to sanitize my tree before exporting. Private or Living is not sufficient since the existence people needs to be hidden. Unfortunate therefore that this feature does not work. It is now some time since you acknowledged the bug. When can we expect a fix?? Regards, JTB _ _ Discover Bird's Eye View now with Multimap from Live Search http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/111354026/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Re: [LegacyUG] Export of Individuals marked as "Invisible" Bug
Ron,Basically if you edit an individual's privacy settings and set him to invisible, he should not appear on any exports or web pages, nor should his descendents. This is what invisible is supposed to do.I have I have done a number of experiments to see if there is anything related to invisible that works at all. I have found no work around, nor any indication that the function works in certain circumstances. An invisible person is always exported as are living individuals if you set "exclude living people totally (as if they don't exist""I am using the latest 70055 build and it could be that if it half worked in a previous version, they took it out completely in 70055.Regards,John-Original Message-Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 11:30:35 +0200Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Export of Individuals marked as "Invisible" BugFrom: ronald ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: John,I know of a couple of problems with this function, and have found a work around for one of them, but would you please explain what you problem is in detail.Ron Ferguson_*New* Insert Pictures Into your Web Pages - Blogshttp://www.fergys.co.ukView the Grimshaw Family Tree at:http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/_Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 10:40:46 +0200To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.comSubject: [LegacyUG] Export of Individuals marked as "Invisible" BugFrom: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Hi,I consider the addition of the setting individuals to "invisible" feature in Legacy 7 to be absolutely the thing that I need to sanitize my tree before exporting. Private or Living is not sufficient since the existence people needs to be hidden. Unfortunate therefore that this feature does not work.It is now some time since you acknowledged the bug. When can we expect a fix??Regards,JTB_Win New York holidays with Kelloggs & Live Searchhttp://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/111354033/direct/01/Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.aspArchived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.aspTo unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines:http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.aspArchived messages:http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.aspTo unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Export of Individuals marked as "Invisible" Bug
Hopefully this bug will be fixed in the next update. I think we just have to wait and see. I'm interested in a fix for the feature that excludes living people as if they don't exist. Marie --- On Fri, 9/12/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [LegacyUG] Export of Individuals marked as "Invisible" Bug To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Date: Friday, September 12, 2008, 4:40 AM Hi, I consider the addition of the setting individuals to "invisible" feature in Legacy 7 to be absolutely the thing that I need to sanitize my tree before exporting. Private or Living is not sufficient since the existence people needs to be hidden. Unfortunate therefore that this feature does not work. It is now some time since you acknowledged the bug. When can we expect a fix?? Regards, JTB Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Export of Individuals marked as "Invisible" Bug
John, I know of a couple of problems with this function, and have found a work around for one of them, but would you please explain what you problem is in detail. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Insert Pictures Into your Web Pages - Blogs http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 10:40:46 +0200 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Export of Individuals marked as "Invisible" Bug From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I consider the addition of the setting individuals to "invisible" feature in Legacy 7 to be absolutely the thing that I need to sanitize my tree before exporting. Private or Living is not sufficient since the existence people needs to be hidden. Unfortunate therefore that this feature does not work. It is now some time since you acknowledged the bug. When can we expect a fix?? Regards, JTB _ Win New York holidays with Kellogg’s & Live Search http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/111354033/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Export of Individuals marked as "Invisible" Bug
Hi,I consider the addition of the setting individuals to "invisible" feature in Legacy 7 to be absolutely the thing that I need to sanitize my tree before exporting. Private or Living is not sufficient since the existence people needs to be hidden. Unfortunate therefore that this feature does not work. It is now some time since you acknowledged the bug. When can we expect a fix??Regards,JTB Legacy User Group guidelines:http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.aspArchived messages:http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.aspTo unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp