RE: [LegacyUG] Family Bible Sourcing - THANKS RICHARD HALLFORD!!
Hi Richard: That was it! Between Find My Past.com and the Canada Library & Archives I located both his emigration and immigration passenger lists. 23rd May 1913 was the day before he sailed. :) Thanks! Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Miller Sent: October 10, 2007 2:00 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Family Bible Sourcing - THANKS RICHARD HALLFORD!! Thanks for this great reminder Richard! It make me leaf through my gr-grandmother [Flora (Wilkes) Miller]'s Common Prayer book. But it turns out it actually belonged to my gr-grandfather [William Miller]. For inside the cover is written: 23rd May 1913 W. Miller >From Flo This is not William's birthday, their anniversary, or the birthdates of their children. BUT William did emigrate X number of years before Flora and the boys did [who I know emigrated May 1915]. What if she gave him this book just as he was leaving for Canada!!? It now gives me a date to start reading microfilms of passenger lists! Thanks! Rob From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Hallford Sent: October 8, 2007 9:56 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Family Bible Sourcing My advice, pull out every bible your family got. Have a look for any thinkg you didnt notice before. After 60 odd years of my father in laws bible hiding in a drawer, his daughter showed it too us and we found his army serial number in it. This alone has given us a huge history of his regiments movements and access to his army record. One little number, thats all we needed to start the journey. On 10/9/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: And be sure to leaf through the bible to see if there are any "additions" such as newspaper clippings, photos, etc. Myrna Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Family Bible Sourcing - THANKS RICHARD HALLFORD!!
Thanks for this great reminder Richard! It make me leaf through my gr-grandmother [Flora (Wilkes) Miller]'s Common Prayer book. But it turns out it actually belonged to my gr-grandfather [William Miller]. For inside the cover is written: 23rd May 1913 W. Miller >From Flo This is not William's birthday, their anniversary, or the birthdates of their children. BUT William did emigrate X number of years before Flora and the boys did [who I know emigrated May 1915]. What if she gave him this book just as he was leaving for Canada!!? It now gives me a date to start reading microfilms of passenger lists! Thanks! Rob From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Hallford Sent: October 8, 2007 9:56 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Family Bible Sourcing My advice, pull out every bible your family got. Have a look for any thinkg you didnt notice before. After 60 odd years of my father in laws bible hiding in a drawer, his daughter showed it too us and we found his army serial number in it. This alone has given us a huge history of his regiments movements and access to his army record. One little number, thats all we needed to start the journey. On 10/9/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: And be sure to leaf through the bible to see if there are any "additions" such as newspaper clippings, photos, etc. Myrna Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Family Bible Sourcing
Hi, Cath, I think we basically agree that the website is the published source of that data. However, if it was transcribed online, the very pertinent data of publication date and provenance should have been included with the transcription. If it was not included, I would consider it perfectly appropriate to write to the poster of the transcription and request a few additional details - perhaps even scans, if available. And most important, where is the Bible now? I do agree, however, that the website is the published source of the information, but it is citing another source, and as many details of the original source as possible should be recorded with it. Janis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cathy Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 8:19 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Family Bible Sourcing Hi Janis, Allen hasn't seen the Bible - only a website with a transcription - so the Bible itself isn't his source. If he had actually seen the Bible, then you are right that further details to identify the actual Bible are relevant. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Family Bible Sourcing
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And be sure to leaf through the bible to see if there are any "additions" such as newspaper clippings, photos, etc. Myrna I found a lot of good obituaries and family history articles by simply thumbing through the bibles of my elderly family members... some really treasured information came that way. Of course sourcing it was difficult but it still is reliable information. Allen Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Family Bible Sourcing
IMHO, as the Legacy source template is now set up, I would consider the author to be the transcriber (Jane Doe, trans.); the title is, e.g., Doe Family Bible, 1787-1945, (i.e., date of earliest data-- latest), the publishing info should include both publication info in re the Bible as a Bible and more importantly the website, including the url, date, etc. Pat - Original Message - From: "Cathy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 11:18 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Family Bible Sourcing Hi Janis, Allen hasn't seen the Bible - only a website with a transcription - so the Bible itself isn't his source. If he had actually seen the Bible, then you are right that further details to identify the actual Bible are relevant. Since the source is a transcription on a website, the full details of the website are the relevant ones to record. Cathy At 10:31 PM 8/10/2007, you wrote: I agree with Jennifer, with a couple of additions. Mills would suggest recording the full name of the Bible (Holy Bible, including both Old and New Testaments, or whatever - italicized), its publication date, and if possible it's provenance. Originally the Bible of xx, who left it to her daughter, xx, who left it to her son xx, currently in the possession of his sister xx (year). Janis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jennifer Crockett Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 6:57 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Family Bible Sourcing Allen, I haven't seen a reply to this, but forgive me if I missed one. I would make the website the source. Use the name of the website and the title of the record (such as "Access Genealogy, Bible Records, FAMILY BIBLE OF JESSE BAIRD", put the URL in the publication details and the date you accessed it. I would then put the entire text in the Source Text. When you use the Source for each person mentioned, you could put in Source Detail the page number and the record such as "Page 2, Births, Joseph B. Baird born Aug.25th 1854". That is just my take, others may have different ideas. Jennifer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allen Prunty Sent: Monday, 8 October 2007 1:35 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Family Bible Sourcing I found this on the web... it's supposively the bible record of my -Grandfather. How would I properly source this? Allen Bible Records FAMILY BIBLE OF JESSE BAIRD (Jesse's son Michael L. Baird came to Lincoln Co. abt.1919 and bought a farm in the Mt. Salem area. He died 1966 and is buried in the Hustonville Cemetery.) Page 1 This certifies that the rite of holy matrimony was celebrated between: Jesse Baird (preacher) of Campbell Co., Tenn. and Louisa Smith of Scott Co. Tenn on the 6th Aug.1853 at John Smith her pa's by Green Creekmore Esq. Page 2 _Births_ Jesse Baird born Nov 24, 1826 Louisa his wife born Nov 9th 1836 Joseph B. Baird born Aug.25th 1854 Calvin R. Baird born Oct 8th, 1855 Elizabeth Baird born Feb 8th 1857 John S. Baird born Sept 2nd 1858 Lewis M Baird born June 8th 1860 Zebedee D. Baird born June 15th 1862 James F. Baird born May 1st 1864 Milton E. Baird born Feb 10th 1867 Mary E. Baird born Dec 18th 1868 Rachel S. Baird born May 16,1871 Helen (?) J. Baird Feb 14th, 1873 Thomas M. Baird Nov 7th 1874 Michael L Baird Mar 8th 1878 Page 3 _Marriages_ J.B.Baird to Mary Trammell April 18th, 1871 J.B.Baird to Hannah Stanfil Dec 28th 1873 J.B.Baird to Mary Brown Oct 22nd 1882 Elizabeth Baird to John Collins May 3, 1874 L.M.Baird to Mary A. Perkins September the 4th 1879 C.R.Baird to Ettie C. McCart June 1, 1884 Susie R.Baird to D.G.Nobels March 13th 1887 J.B.Baird to Sarah Perkins January 6th 1889 J.F.Baird to Martha Lay January 1st 1889 Z.D. Baird to Ella Baird August 24th 1887 P.C.Perkins to Mary E. Baird June 15th 1888 M.E. Baird to Julie Baird March 18th 1888 T.M.Baird to Julie Gibson Nov 6th 1892 Page 4 _Memoranda_ Jesse Baird My father Lewis M. Baird was born August the 22nd 1795 died May 1866 Elizabeth his wife was born December 28th 1797 died December the 29th 1882 My oldest bro. William Baird born Oct. the 19th 1817 He died May the 15th 1885 Page 5 _Deaths_ John S. Baird died June 13th 1885 Mary E. (Baird) Perkins wife of P.C. Perkins died December the 4th 1891 Louisa wife of Elder Jesse Baird died December the 24th 1898 Elizabeth (Baird) Collins died December the 17th 1910 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messag
Re: [LegacyUG] Family Bible Sourcing
Cute PDF (www.cutepdf.com) is free and it doesn't put a logo on your stuff. I've used at work and at home for several years. ___ Wayne Martell Victoria, BC, Canada - Original Message - From: Cathy To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 5:41 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Family Bible Sourcing Hi Richard, Printing webpages with a PDF printer is a good idea. There are a lot and some are free. I use Jaws PDF Creator which isn't but have used PDF995. You can use that free if you don't mind the sponsor logo on stuff. You install them and then they are listed with your other printer/printers and you choose the one you want when you go to print (from File > Print) Legacy Deluxe can output reports to PDF. It can't be used to print a web page to PDF. Cheers, Cathy At 07:33 AM 9/10/2007, you wrote: John, Im fasinacted by your reply re turning docs from the web into PDF format. I am a begginer user, but I remember reading in the help files that Legacy itself can output to a pdf file. Could you possible use this function and how. Maybe some other reader has already used it. I have tried to capture a number of web sites as sources and always had some bits missing or out of format. Regards, Richard. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Family Bible Sourcing
My advice, pull out every bible your family got. Have a look for any thinkg you didnt notice before. After 60 odd years of my father in laws bible hiding in a drawer, his daughter showed it too us and we found his army serial number in it. This alone has given us a huge history of his regiments movements and access to his army record. One little number, thats all we needed to start the journey. On 10/9/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > And be sure to leaf through the bible to see if there are any > "additions" such as newspaper clippings, photos, etc. > > Myrna > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Family Bible Sourcing
Do a google search for a program called CutePDF it's a WONDERFUL program... I have used it for years. Just print to teh CutePDF printer and give the file a name and you have a PDF archive of anything. Allen John Carter wrote: Richard, The tools Legacy uses to create a PDF file are not available for other purposes. PDF995 is the easiest option for most people, although there are probably other programs in the shareware/nagware arena (PDF995 is nagware until you register it; registration adds some tools along with eliminating the nag screen.) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Family Bible Sourcing
Cute PDF has no logos. Cathy wrote: Hi Richard, Printing webpages with a PDF printer is a good idea. There are a lot and some are free. I use Jaws PDF Creator which isn't but have used PDF995. You can use that free if you don't mind the sponsor logo on stuff. You install them and then they are listed with your other printer/printers and you choose the one you want when you go to print (from File > Print) Legacy Deluxe can output reports to PDF. It can't be used to print a web page to PDF. Cheers, Cathy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Family Bible Sourcing
Richard, The tools Legacy uses to create a PDF file are not available for other purposes. PDF995 is the easiest option for most people, although there are probably other programs in the shareware/nagware arena (PDF995 is nagware until you register it; registration adds some tools along with eliminating the nag screen.) John > John, Im fasinacted by your reply re turning docs from the web into PDF > format. I am a begginer user, but I remember reading in the help files > that > Legacy itself can output to a pdf file. Could you possible use this > function > and how. Maybe some other reader has already used it. I have tried to > capture a number of web sites as sources and always had some bits missing > or > out of format. > Regards, Richard. > > On 10/9/07, John Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> I would suggest keeping a copy of the page(s), since we all know that >> web >> sites come and go, even if it's just a domain change (my pages just >> moved >> to their fourth domain in 12 years; hopefully this one is permanent). >> >> There are two ways to save a web page on your PC. >> >> 1. Click File -> Save As -> give it a good name -> Type: Web Archive. >> This saves the entire page with its graphics/photos as a single file >> (saving the default type puts the graphics/photos in a separate folder). >> Some pages won't save this way, so you also need to be able to use >> method >> 2. >> >> 2. Get one of the PDF "printer" programs and print each page to a PDF >> document. This works for almost all pages. I use PDFFactory (purchased >> for me by a former employer), but PDF995 also works and is only $9.95US. >> >> My primary PC has a folder named "downloads" with a subfolder of >> "genealogy". The genealogy folder has folders by state (some with >> county >> subfolders) and name. If I downloaded a page, it will be in here. >> >> Do make backups of your data - hard drives have moving parts and will >> eventually die, expecially if the PC is on most of the time. I just >> spent >> the better part of 3 days recovering tax and rental property data from a >> friend's failed drive. The Staples flyer in our Sunday paper has a >> 500GB >> Maxtor USB drive for $99 after rebate (limit of 10 rebates if you need 5 >> terabytes of storage ;-) I'll be picking one up today to replace the >> 120GB external drive I've been using. >> >> John >> >> > Allen, >> > >> > I haven't seen a reply to this, but forgive me if I missed one. >> > >> > I would make the website the source. Use the name of the website >> > and the title of the record (such as "Access Genealogy, Bible >> > Records, FAMILY BIBLE OF JESSE BAIRD", put the URL in the >> > publication details and the date you accessed it. I would then >> > put the entire text in the Source Text. >> > >> > When you use the Source for each person mentioned, you could put >> > in Source Detail the page number and the record such as "Page 2, >> > Births, Joseph B. Baird born Aug.25th 1854". >> > >> > That is just my take, others may have different ideas. >> > >> > Jennifer >> > >> > >> > >> > -Original Message- >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >> > Allen Prunty >> > Sent: Monday, 8 October 2007 1:35 PM >> > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com >> > Subject: [LegacyUG] Family Bible Sourcing >> > >> > I found this on the web... it's supposively the bible record of >> > my >> > -Grandfather. How would I properly source this? >> > >> > Allen >> > >> > Bible Records >> > >> > FAMILY BIBLE OF JESSE BAIRD >> >> >> >> >> Legacy User Group guidelines: >>http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >> Archived messages: >>http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ >> Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >> To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp >> >> >> > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Family Bible Sourcing
It helps establish the time period of the bible and the printing method (helping establish provenance) on old bibles those are usually the most adorned and well printed pages in the bible. Just helps you to authenticate it later and know that it is a bible from that time frame. Allen Jess M wrote: Forgive my ignorance, but what purpose does the first pages of the old and new testaments serve? Do they hold some significance? Title page I understand. As this is one of those huge white family Bible editions, it has several pages in the front for the family information, and I know it is written all over in the front - I read over it many, many times when I was actively involved in the family. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Family Bible Sourcing
And be sure to leaf through the bible to see if there are any "additions" such as newspaper clippings, photos, etc. Myrna Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Family Bible Sourcing
Hi Jess, Depending on the condition of the Bible and the binding, it may not be possible to scan it. I'd make sure I had a digital camera and check the photos are sharp before you leave. It does help to have a tripod for this type of photography but I usually just check I've got a sharp image. Sometimes you get better copies from a camera than from scanning as you don't want to break the binding or do any other damage. Cheers, Cathy At 01:55 AM 9/10/2007, you wrote: I have this issue as well, and am glad it was brought up. I am divorced, and I just recently (as in two days ago while back in hometown for family reunion) got my ex-husband to agree to let me copy the pages of his family Bible. I will be going back in two weeks to do this, as his wife could not find it while I was there, and he was out of town. So, when I go to get this information -- I will not be able to leave with the Bible, I must do it all there, in his presence. Do I take my computer and scanner, and scan the pages to PDF, do I write down the information on paper, do I take digital pictures of the pages, or a combination of all of these? As a beginner (less than six months), I've not begun to deal with sourcing as much as I should, and want to start doing this as I go. Also, I saw that someone stated to also put in the source the type of Bible, printing, etc. Is that recommended as a "standard", or is it just personal pref? I will, undoubtedly, do what I feel is best for me, but at the same time, I like to loosely stick with the known standards, so that in the future my work can be picked up by my descendents and other family members as needed, and it won't be hard to follow. Jess M Jess M Proud to be Single Mom to CJ-9 Jo-7 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Family Bible Sourcing
Hi Richard, Printing webpages with a PDF printer is a good idea. There are a lot and some are free. I use Jaws PDF Creator which isn't but have used PDF995. You can use that free if you don't mind the sponsor logo on stuff. You install them and then they are listed with your other printer/printers and you choose the one you want when you go to print (from File > Print) Legacy Deluxe can output reports to PDF. It can't be used to print a web page to PDF. Cheers, Cathy At 07:33 AM 9/10/2007, you wrote: John, Im fasinacted by your reply re turning docs from the web into PDF format. I am a begginer user, but I remember reading in the help files that Legacy itself can output to a pdf file. Could you possible use this function and how. Maybe some other reader has already used it. I have tried to capture a number of web sites as sources and always had some bits missing or out of format. Regards, Richard. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Family Bible Sourcing
While a great option, the nearest copy store to my hometown, and where the Bible in question and my exhusband are located. is about 60+ miles away. Taking my laptop and flatbed scanner seem to be what works out there for "those folks". While I've gotten offtopic, I appreciate the feedback, because my original intent was to just go over with pen and notebook and hand copy the information. -- Which I don't think I will be doing now, I'll go with laptop and scanner in tow. I *think* I can bare to be around him that long for these purposes. Alas, I stray off topic again. My apologies. Jess M --- RICHARD SCHULTHIES <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you have the equipment yourself, take it. He may > remember more stuff while you are working. If not a > choice, offer to drive him and the book to the local > copy store. I have done this with family members who > would not part with the records for a second. This > also sets up trust for future contacts (may not be > an > issue for you). > Rich in LA CA > --- Jess M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I have this issue as well, and am glad it was > > brought > > up. > > > > I am divorced, and I just recently (as in two days > > ago > > while back in hometown for family reunion) got my > > ex-husband to agree to let me copy the pages of > his > > family Bible. > > > > I will be going back in two weeks to do this, as > his > > wife could not find it while I was there, and he > was > > out of town. > > > > So, when I go to get this information -- I will > not > > be > > able to leave with the Bible, I must do it all > > there, > > in his presence. > > > > Do I take my computer and scanner, and scan the > > pages > > to PDF, do I write down the information on paper, > do > > I > > take digital pictures of the pages, or a > combination > > of all of these? > > > > As a beginner (less than six months), I've not > begun > > to deal with sourcing as much as I should, and > want > > to > > start doing this as I go. > > > > Also, I saw that someone stated to also put in the > > source the type of Bible, printing, etc. Is that > > recommended as a "standard", or is it just > personal > > pref? > > > > I will, undoubtedly, do what I feel is best for > me, > > but at the same time, I like to loosely stick with > > the > > known standards, so that in the future my work can > > be > > picked up by my descendents and other family > members > > as needed, and it won't be hard to follow. > > > > Jess M > > > > Jess M > > Proud to be Single Mom to > > CJ-9 > > Jo-7 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > > Archived messages: > > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > > Online technical support: > > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > > To unsubscribe: > > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > > > > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > Jess M Proud to be Single Mom to CJ-9 Jo-7 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Family Bible Sourcing
Forgive my ignorance, but what purpose does the first pages of the old and new testaments serve? Do they hold some significance? Title page I understand. As this is one of those huge white family Bible editions, it has several pages in the front for the family information, and I know it is written all over in the front - I read over it many, many times when I was actively involved in the family. Jess M --- Allen Prunty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would make sure that you get the title pages and > the first page of the > new and old testaments. > > Allen > Jess M Proud to be Single Mom to CJ-9 Jo-7 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Family Bible Sourcing
John, Im fasinacted by your reply re turning docs from the web into PDF format. I am a begginer user, but I remember reading in the help files that Legacy itself can output to a pdf file. Could you possible use this function and how. Maybe some other reader has already used it. I have tried to capture a number of web sites as sources and always had some bits missing or out of format. Regards, Richard. On 10/9/07, John Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I would suggest keeping a copy of the page(s), since we all know that web > sites come and go, even if it's just a domain change (my pages just moved > to their fourth domain in 12 years; hopefully this one is permanent). > > There are two ways to save a web page on your PC. > > 1. Click File -> Save As -> give it a good name -> Type: Web Archive. > This saves the entire page with its graphics/photos as a single file > (saving the default type puts the graphics/photos in a separate folder). > Some pages won't save this way, so you also need to be able to use method > 2. > > 2. Get one of the PDF "printer" programs and print each page to a PDF > document. This works for almost all pages. I use PDFFactory (purchased > for me by a former employer), but PDF995 also works and is only $9.95US. > > My primary PC has a folder named "downloads" with a subfolder of > "genealogy". The genealogy folder has folders by state (some with county > subfolders) and name. If I downloaded a page, it will be in here. > > Do make backups of your data - hard drives have moving parts and will > eventually die, expecially if the PC is on most of the time. I just spent > the better part of 3 days recovering tax and rental property data from a > friend's failed drive. The Staples flyer in our Sunday paper has a 500GB > Maxtor USB drive for $99 after rebate (limit of 10 rebates if you need 5 > terabytes of storage ;-) I'll be picking one up today to replace the > 120GB external drive I've been using. > > John > > > Allen, > > > > I haven't seen a reply to this, but forgive me if I missed one. > > > > I would make the website the source. Use the name of the website > > and the title of the record (such as "Access Genealogy, Bible > > Records, FAMILY BIBLE OF JESSE BAIRD", put the URL in the > > publication details and the date you accessed it. I would then > > put the entire text in the Source Text. > > > > When you use the Source for each person mentioned, you could put > > in Source Detail the page number and the record such as "Page 2, > > Births, Joseph B. Baird born Aug.25th 1854". > > > > That is just my take, others may have different ideas. > > > > Jennifer > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > Allen Prunty > > Sent: Monday, 8 October 2007 1:35 PM > > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > > Subject: [LegacyUG] Family Bible Sourcing > > > > I found this on the web... it's supposively the bible record of > > my > > -Grandfather. How would I properly source this? > > > > Allen > > > > Bible Records > > > > FAMILY BIBLE OF JESSE BAIRD > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Family Bible Sourcing
I would make sure that you get the title pages and the first page of the new and old testaments. Allen Jess M wrote: I have this issue as well, and am glad it was brought up. I am divorced, and I just recently (as in two days ago while back in hometown for family reunion) got my ex-husband to agree to let me copy the pages of his family Bible. I will be going back in two weeks to do this, as his wife could not find it while I was there, and he was out of town. So, when I go to get this information -- I will not be able to leave with the Bible, I must do it all there, in his presence. Do I take my computer and scanner, and scan the pages to PDF, do I write down the information on paper, do I take digital pictures of the pages, or a combination of all of these? As a beginner (less than six months), I've not begun to deal with sourcing as much as I should, and want to start doing this as I go. Also, I saw that someone stated to also put in the source the type of Bible, printing, etc. Is that recommended as a "standard", or is it just personal pref? I will, undoubtedly, do what I feel is best for me, but at the same time, I like to loosely stick with the known standards, so that in the future my work can be picked up by my descendents and other family members as needed, and it won't be hard to follow. Jess M Jess M Proud to be Single Mom to CJ-9 Jo-7 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Family Bible Sourcing
If you have the equipment yourself, take it. He may remember more stuff while you are working. If not a choice, offer to drive him and the book to the local copy store. I have done this with family members who would not part with the records for a second. This also sets up trust for future contacts (may not be an issue for you). Rich in LA CA --- Jess M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have this issue as well, and am glad it was > brought > up. > > I am divorced, and I just recently (as in two days > ago > while back in hometown for family reunion) got my > ex-husband to agree to let me copy the pages of his > family Bible. > > I will be going back in two weeks to do this, as his > wife could not find it while I was there, and he was > out of town. > > So, when I go to get this information -- I will not > be > able to leave with the Bible, I must do it all > there, > in his presence. > > Do I take my computer and scanner, and scan the > pages > to PDF, do I write down the information on paper, do > I > take digital pictures of the pages, or a combination > of all of these? > > As a beginner (less than six months), I've not begun > to deal with sourcing as much as I should, and want > to > start doing this as I go. > > Also, I saw that someone stated to also put in the > source the type of Bible, printing, etc. Is that > recommended as a "standard", or is it just personal > pref? > > I will, undoubtedly, do what I feel is best for me, > but at the same time, I like to loosely stick with > the > known standards, so that in the future my work can > be > picked up by my descendents and other family members > as needed, and it won't be hard to follow. > > Jess M > > Jess M > Proud to be Single Mom to > CJ-9 > Jo-7 > > > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Family Bible Sourcing
Sounds like you've done all you can. Sometimes thats all you can find. Rich in LA CA --- Elaine O'Neill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a similar issue. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Family Bible Sourcing
If it corresponds to some of your existing information, that you have previously proven as 100% fact, I would include it, and in the sourcing stipulate which facts corresponded and led you to believe it to be true facts of your family, and then cite the entire source ver betum. Then, if you ever found contradictory information, you would know why you input what you did, and that any of it other than those that directly corresponded could very well be illigitimate. Or, if it is too much information to source input ver betum, file it in a filing system and reference the hard file. In your hard file, put two copies. One copy unadulterated, the second copy notated as to what you know as fact and what may not be so, etc. HTH Jess M --- Allen Prunty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I can't establish any of that... it's just a > transcript of a bible that > "exists" somewhere. When I e-mail the person about > it the message bounces. > > I don't know if this is actually true or not. It > corresponds to some of > what I have and adds information. I am very > cautious to add it to my > database. > > Allen > Jess M Proud to be Single Mom to CJ-9 Jo-7 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Family Bible Sourcing
I have this issue as well, and am glad it was brought up. I am divorced, and I just recently (as in two days ago while back in hometown for family reunion) got my ex-husband to agree to let me copy the pages of his family Bible. I will be going back in two weeks to do this, as his wife could not find it while I was there, and he was out of town. So, when I go to get this information -- I will not be able to leave with the Bible, I must do it all there, in his presence. Do I take my computer and scanner, and scan the pages to PDF, do I write down the information on paper, do I take digital pictures of the pages, or a combination of all of these? As a beginner (less than six months), I've not begun to deal with sourcing as much as I should, and want to start doing this as I go. Also, I saw that someone stated to also put in the source the type of Bible, printing, etc. Is that recommended as a "standard", or is it just personal pref? I will, undoubtedly, do what I feel is best for me, but at the same time, I like to loosely stick with the known standards, so that in the future my work can be picked up by my descendents and other family members as needed, and it won't be hard to follow. Jess M Jess M Proud to be Single Mom to CJ-9 Jo-7 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Family Bible Sourcing
If those pages were mine, then I'd 1) scan them, and 2) put the description that you just gave (only use the actual names) in the notes. I'd also post online to see if anyone else had info. Dawn Elaine O'Neill wrote: I have a similar issue. I have xerox copies of pages from a family bible. All I know for sure is it belonged to a member of the family. I can't tell if the entries were all made at one time or not, although it seems as though the earliest ones were and then others were made as they happened. The bible either belonged to my 3Gr-grandparents or one of their daughters, but it's impossible to tell. Right now I just have it sourced as Hardy Family Bible Pages, with no detail. I know I should be more detailed but I'm not sure just what to put. I have no idea where the original bible is, or who had it when the pages were copied. They've been copied many times as my copy is quite faint and fuzzy. Any suggestions? Elaine in the Beautiful Missouri Ozarks Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Family Bible Sourcing
I can't establish any of that... it's just a transcript of a bible that "exists" somewhere. When I e-mail the person about it the message bounces. I don't know if this is actually true or not. It corresponds to some of what I have and adds information. I am very cautious to add it to my database. Allen Janis Gilmore wrote: I agree with Jennifer, with a couple of additions. Mills would suggest recording the full name of the Bible (Holy Bible, including both Old and New Testaments, or whatever - italicized), its publication date, and if possible it's provenance. Originally the Bible of xx, who left it to her daughter, xx, who left it to her son xx, currently in the possession of his sister xx (year). Janis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jennifer Crockett Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 6:57 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Family Bible Sourcing Allen, I haven't seen a reply to this, but forgive me if I missed one. I would make the website the source. Use the name of the website and the title of the record (such as "Access Genealogy, Bible Records, FAMILY BIBLE OF JESSE BAIRD", put the URL in the publication details and the date you accessed it. I would then put the entire text in the Source Text. When you use the Source for each person mentioned, you could put in Source Detail the page number and the record such as "Page 2, Births, Joseph B. Baird born Aug.25th 1854". That is just my take, others may have different ideas. Jennifer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allen Prunty Sent: Monday, 8 October 2007 1:35 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Family Bible Sourcing I found this on the web... it's supposively the bible record of my -Grandfather. How would I properly source this? Allen Bible Records FAMILY BIBLE OF JESSE BAIRD (Jesse's son Michael L. Baird came to Lincoln Co. abt.1919 and bought a farm in the Mt. Salem area. He died 1966 and is buried in the Hustonville Cemetery.) Page 1 This certifies that the rite of holy matrimony was celebrated between: Jesse Baird (preacher) of Campbell Co., Tenn. and Louisa Smith of Scott Co. Tenn on the 6th Aug.1853 at John Smith her pa's by Green Creekmore Esq. Page 2 _Births_ Jesse Baird born Nov 24, 1826 Louisa his wife born Nov 9th 1836 Joseph B. Baird born Aug.25th 1854 Calvin R. Baird born Oct 8th, 1855 Elizabeth Baird born Feb 8th 1857 John S. Baird born Sept 2nd 1858 Lewis M Baird born June 8th 1860 Zebedee D. Baird born June 15th 1862 James F. Baird born May 1st 1864 Milton E. Baird born Feb 10th 1867 Mary E. Baird born Dec 18th 1868 Rachel S. Baird born May 16,1871 Helen (?) J. Baird Feb 14th, 1873 Thomas M. Baird Nov 7th 1874 Michael L Baird Mar 8th 1878 Page 3 _Marriages_ J.B.Baird to Mary Trammell April 18th, 1871 J.B.Baird to Hannah Stanfil Dec 28th 1873 J.B.Baird to Mary Brown Oct 22nd 1882 Elizabeth Baird to John Collins May 3, 1874 L.M.Baird to Mary A. Perkins September the 4th 1879 C.R.Baird to Ettie C. McCart June 1, 1884 Susie R.Baird to D.G.Nobels March 13th 1887 J.B.Baird to Sarah Perkins January 6th 1889 J.F.Baird to Martha Lay January 1st 1889 Z.D. Baird to Ella Baird August 24th 1887 P.C.Perkins to Mary E. Baird June 15th 1888 M.E. Baird to Julie Baird March 18th 1888 T.M.Baird to Julie Gibson Nov 6th 1892 Page 4 _Memoranda_ Jesse Baird My father Lewis M. Baird was born August the 22nd 1795 died May 1866 Elizabeth his wife was born December 28th 1797 died December the 29th 1882 My oldest bro. William Baird born Oct. the 19th 1817 He died May the 15th 1885 Page 5 _Deaths_ John S. Baird died June 13th 1885 Mary E. (Baird) Perkins wife of P.C. Perkins died December the 4th 1891 Louisa wife of Elder Jesse Baird died December the 24th 1898 Elizabeth (Baird) Collins died December the 17th 1910 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Family Bible Sourcing
I have a similar issue. I have xerox copies of pages from a family bible. All I know for sure is it belonged to a member of the family. I can't tell if the entries were all made at one time or not, although it seems as though the earliest ones were and then others were made as they happened. The bible either belonged to my 3Gr-grandparents or one of their daughters, but it's impossible to tell. Right now I just have it sourced as Hardy Family Bible Pages, with no detail. I know I should be more detailed but I'm not sure just what to put. I have no idea where the original bible is, or who had it when the pages were copied. They've been copied many times as my copy is quite faint and fuzzy. Any suggestions? Elaine in the Beautiful Missouri Ozarks Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Family Bible Sourcing
I can only add an "Amen" to seeing the original - or, in the case of a web site, asking these questions of the person who posted the information. Maybe they provide copies of the original pages? I have only the marriage/birth/death pages from my maternal grandmother's Bible. The rest could not be kept (too damaged by insects from poor storage in the 20+ years between her death and my receiving the Bible), but these pages were in the middle and thus the least damaged. Many of the entries are in a similar hand (left-handed writer) and in pencil. The last name is spelled "Rains" and "Raines" on the same page. Some of the entries are in a childish hand - I can see a child either filling in what she thought she knew or quizzing an available adult: "Grandma, when was born?" "When did get married?". Some of the more mature writing is in the death dates, with notations such as "66 years, 3 months, 4 days". Obviously, I need other supporting data for the entries in the childish hand and there are some that I may never have verification on: "Halice - May 1, 1881 - Sep 3, 1881". John > I would also inquire as to the date that the Bible was published and any > variations in handwriting and/or ink to help determine in what > generation those records were written. If it was published in, say > 1850, then info was probably copied from another source (perhaps another > family Bible). The data may be 100% accurate, but it may not. It may > also have been summarized just for the owner/recipient of the Bible and > therefore be based on the best recollections of folks at the time. If > no print date is available, then analyze the handwriting and ink to see > if they are too similar. If so, they were not likely to have been > recorded near the time of the event. > > Dawn > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Family Bible Sourcing
I would try to contact the poster of the facts, to get or purchase a photocopy of the various pages AND the title page of the bible. Until then, keep the printout stored safely. Rich in LA CA --- Jennifer Crockett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Allen, > > I haven't seen a reply to this, but forgive me if I > missed one. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Family Bible Sourcing
I would suggest keeping a copy of the page(s), since we all know that web sites come and go, even if it's just a domain change (my pages just moved to their fourth domain in 12 years; hopefully this one is permanent). There are two ways to save a web page on your PC. 1. Click File -> Save As -> give it a good name -> Type: Web Archive. This saves the entire page with its graphics/photos as a single file (saving the default type puts the graphics/photos in a separate folder). Some pages won't save this way, so you also need to be able to use method 2. 2. Get one of the PDF "printer" programs and print each page to a PDF document. This works for almost all pages. I use PDFFactory (purchased for me by a former employer), but PDF995 also works and is only $9.95US. My primary PC has a folder named "downloads" with a subfolder of "genealogy". The genealogy folder has folders by state (some with county subfolders) and name. If I downloaded a page, it will be in here. Do make backups of your data - hard drives have moving parts and will eventually die, expecially if the PC is on most of the time. I just spent the better part of 3 days recovering tax and rental property data from a friend's failed drive. The Staples flyer in our Sunday paper has a 500GB Maxtor USB drive for $99 after rebate (limit of 10 rebates if you need 5 terabytes of storage ;-) I'll be picking one up today to replace the 120GB external drive I've been using. John > Allen, > > I haven't seen a reply to this, but forgive me if I missed one. > > I would make the website the source. Use the name of the website > and the title of the record (such as "Access Genealogy, Bible > Records, FAMILY BIBLE OF JESSE BAIRD", put the URL in the > publication details and the date you accessed it. I would then > put the entire text in the Source Text. > > When you use the Source for each person mentioned, you could put > in Source Detail the page number and the record such as "Page 2, > Births, Joseph B. Baird born Aug.25th 1854". > > That is just my take, others may have different ideas. > > Jennifer > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Allen Prunty > Sent: Monday, 8 October 2007 1:35 PM > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: [LegacyUG] Family Bible Sourcing > > I found this on the web... it's supposively the bible record of > my > -Grandfather. How would I properly source this? > > Allen > > Bible Records > > FAMILY BIBLE OF JESSE BAIRD Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Hi Janis In this case I don't believe these additional details are available. Allen doesn't say which website he found it on, but Googling gives these two: http://www.accessgenealogy.com/bible/kentucky.htm http://www.rootsweb.com/~kylinco2/bible_records/bible_records.htm Jennifer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Janis Gilmore Sent: Tuesday, 9 October 2007 12:32 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Family Bible Sourcing I agree with Jennifer, with a couple of additions. Mills would suggest recording the full name of the Bible (Holy Bible, including both Old and New Testaments, or whatever - italicized), its publication date, and if possible it's provenance. Originally the Bible of xx, who left it to her daughter, xx, who left it to her son xx, currently in the possession of his sister xx (year). Janis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jennifer Crockett Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 6:57 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Family Bible Sourcing Allen, I haven't seen a reply to this, but forgive me if I missed one. I would make the website the source. Use the name of the website and the title of the record (such as "Access Genealogy, Bible Records, FAMILY BIBLE OF JESSE BAIRD", put the URL in the publication details and the date you accessed it. I would then put the entire text in the Source Text. When you use the Source for each person mentioned, you could put in Source Detail the page number and the record such as "Page 2, Births, Joseph B. Baird born Aug.25th 1854". That is just my take, others may have different ideas. Jennifer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allen Prunty Sent: Monday, 8 October 2007 1:35 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Family Bible Sourcing I found this on the web... it's supposively the bible record of my -Grandfather. How would I properly source this? Allen Bible Records FAMILY BIBLE OF JESSE BAIRD (Jesse's son Michael L. Baird came to Lincoln Co. abt.1919 and bought a farm in the Mt. Salem area. He died 1966 and is buried in the Hustonville Cemetery.) Page 1 This certifies that the rite of holy matrimony was celebrated between: Jesse Baird (preacher) of Campbell Co., Tenn. and Louisa Smith of Scott Co. Tenn on the 6th Aug.1853 at John Smith her pa's by Green Creekmore Esq. Page 2 _Births_ Jesse Baird born Nov 24, 1826 Louisa his wife born Nov 9th 1836 Joseph B. Baird born Aug.25th 1854 Calvin R. Baird born Oct 8th, 1855 Elizabeth Baird born Feb 8th 1857 John S. Baird born Sept 2nd 1858 Lewis M Baird born June 8th 1860 Zebedee D. Baird born June 15th 1862 James F. Baird born May 1st 1864 Milton E. Baird born Feb 10th 1867 Mary E. Baird born Dec 18th 1868 Rachel S. Baird born May 16,1871 Helen (?) J. Baird Feb 14th, 1873 Thomas M. Baird Nov 7th 1874 Michael L Baird Mar 8th 1878 Page 3 _Marriages_ J.B.Baird to Mary Trammell April 18th, 1871 J.B.Baird to Hannah Stanfil Dec 28th 1873 J.B.Baird to Mary Brown Oct 22nd 1882 Elizabeth Baird to John Collins May 3, 1874 L.M.Baird to Mary A. Perkins September the 4th 1879 C.R.Baird to Ettie C. McCart June 1, 1884 Susie R.Baird to D.G.Nobels March 13th 1887 J.B.Baird to Sarah Perkins January 6th 1889 J.F.Baird to Martha Lay January 1st 1889 Z.D. Baird to Ella Baird August 24th 1887 P.C.Perkins to Mary E. Baird June 15th 1888 M.E. Baird to Julie Baird March 18th 1888 T.M.Baird to Julie Gibson Nov 6th 1892 Page 4 _Memoranda_ Jesse Baird My father Lewis M. Baird was born August the 22nd 1795 died May 1866 Elizabeth his wife was born December 28th 1797 died December the 29th 1882 My oldest bro. William Baird born Oct. the 19th 1817 He died May the 15th 1885 Page 5 _Deaths_ John S. Baird died June 13th 1885 Mary E. (Baird) Perkins wife of P.C. Perkins died December the 4th 1891 Louisa wife of Elder Jesse Baird died December the 24th 1898 Elizabeth (Baird) Collins died December the 17th 1910 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Hi Janis, Allen hasn't seen the Bible - only a website with a transcription - so the Bible itself isn't his source. If he had actually seen the Bible, then you are right that further details to identify the actual Bible are relevant. Since the source is a transcription on a website, the full details of the website are the relevant ones to record. Cathy At 10:31 PM 8/10/2007, you wrote: I agree with Jennifer, with a couple of additions. Mills would suggest recording the full name of the Bible (Holy Bible, including both Old and New Testaments, or whatever - italicized), its publication date, and if possible it's provenance. Originally the Bible of xx, who left it to her daughter, xx, who left it to her son xx, currently in the possession of his sister xx (year). Janis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jennifer Crockett Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 6:57 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Family Bible Sourcing Allen, I haven't seen a reply to this, but forgive me if I missed one. I would make the website the source. Use the name of the website and the title of the record (such as "Access Genealogy, Bible Records, FAMILY BIBLE OF JESSE BAIRD", put the URL in the publication details and the date you accessed it. I would then put the entire text in the Source Text. When you use the Source for each person mentioned, you could put in Source Detail the page number and the record such as "Page 2, Births, Joseph B. Baird born Aug.25th 1854". That is just my take, others may have different ideas. Jennifer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allen Prunty Sent: Monday, 8 October 2007 1:35 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Family Bible Sourcing I found this on the web... it's supposively the bible record of my -Grandfather. How would I properly source this? Allen Bible Records FAMILY BIBLE OF JESSE BAIRD (Jesse's son Michael L. Baird came to Lincoln Co. abt.1919 and bought a farm in the Mt. Salem area. He died 1966 and is buried in the Hustonville Cemetery.) Page 1 This certifies that the rite of holy matrimony was celebrated between: Jesse Baird (preacher) of Campbell Co., Tenn. and Louisa Smith of Scott Co. Tenn on the 6th Aug.1853 at John Smith her pa's by Green Creekmore Esq. Page 2 _Births_ Jesse Baird born Nov 24, 1826 Louisa his wife born Nov 9th 1836 Joseph B. Baird born Aug.25th 1854 Calvin R. Baird born Oct 8th, 1855 Elizabeth Baird born Feb 8th 1857 John S. Baird born Sept 2nd 1858 Lewis M Baird born June 8th 1860 Zebedee D. Baird born June 15th 1862 James F. Baird born May 1st 1864 Milton E. Baird born Feb 10th 1867 Mary E. Baird born Dec 18th 1868 Rachel S. Baird born May 16,1871 Helen (?) J. Baird Feb 14th, 1873 Thomas M. Baird Nov 7th 1874 Michael L Baird Mar 8th 1878 Page 3 _Marriages_ J.B.Baird to Mary Trammell April 18th, 1871 J.B.Baird to Hannah Stanfil Dec 28th 1873 J.B.Baird to Mary Brown Oct 22nd 1882 Elizabeth Baird to John Collins May 3, 1874 L.M.Baird to Mary A. Perkins September the 4th 1879 C.R.Baird to Ettie C. McCart June 1, 1884 Susie R.Baird to D.G.Nobels March 13th 1887 J.B.Baird to Sarah Perkins January 6th 1889 J.F.Baird to Martha Lay January 1st 1889 Z.D. Baird to Ella Baird August 24th 1887 P.C.Perkins to Mary E. Baird June 15th 1888 M.E. Baird to Julie Baird March 18th 1888 T.M.Baird to Julie Gibson Nov 6th 1892 Page 4 _Memoranda_ Jesse Baird My father Lewis M. Baird was born August the 22nd 1795 died May 1866 Elizabeth his wife was born December 28th 1797 died December the 29th 1882 My oldest bro. William Baird born Oct. the 19th 1817 He died May the 15th 1885 Page 5 _Deaths_ John S. Baird died June 13th 1885 Mary E. (Baird) Perkins wife of P.C. Perkins died December the 4th 1891 Louisa wife of Elder Jesse Baird died December the 24th 1898 Elizabeth (Baird) Collins died December the 17th 1910 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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I would also inquire as to the date that the Bible was published and any variations in handwriting and/or ink to help determine in what generation those records were written. If it was published in, say 1850, then info was probably copied from another source (perhaps another family Bible). The data may be 100% accurate, but it may not. It may also have been summarized just for the owner/recipient of the Bible and therefore be based on the best recollections of folks at the time. If no print date is available, then analyze the handwriting and ink to see if they are too similar. If so, they were not likely to have been recorded near the time of the event. Dawn Jennifer Crockett wrote: Allen, I haven't seen a reply to this, but forgive me if I missed one. I would make the website the source. Use the name of the website and the title of the record (such as "Access Genealogy, Bible Records, FAMILY BIBLE OF JESSE BAIRD", put the URL in the publication details and the date you accessed it. I would then put the entire text in the Source Text. When you use the Source for each person mentioned, you could put in Source Detail the page number and the record such as "Page 2, Births, Joseph B. Baird born Aug.25th 1854". That is just my take, others may have different ideas. Jennifer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allen Prunty Sent: Monday, 8 October 2007 1:35 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Family Bible Sourcing I found this on the web... it's supposively the bible record of my -Grandfather. How would I properly source this? Allen Bible Records FAMILY BIBLE OF JESSE BAIRD (Jesse's son Michael L. Baird came to Lincoln Co. abt.1919 and bought a farm in the Mt. Salem area. He died 1966 and is buried in the Hustonville Cemetery.) Page 1 This certifies that the rite of holy matrimony was celebrated between: Jesse Baird (preacher) of Campbell Co., Tenn. and Louisa Smith of Scott Co. Tenn on the 6th Aug.1853 at John Smith her pa's by Green Creekmore Esq. Page 2 _Births_ Jesse Baird born Nov 24, 1826 Louisa his wife born Nov 9th 1836 Joseph B. Baird born Aug.25th 1854 Calvin R. Baird born Oct 8th, 1855 Elizabeth Baird born Feb 8th 1857 John S. Baird born Sept 2nd 1858 Lewis M Baird born June 8th 1860 Zebedee D. Baird born June 15th 1862 James F. Baird born May 1st 1864 Milton E. Baird born Feb 10th 1867 Mary E. Baird born Dec 18th 1868 Rachel S. Baird born May 16,1871 Helen (?) J. Baird Feb 14th, 1873 Thomas M. Baird Nov 7th 1874 Michael L Baird Mar 8th 1878 Page 3 _Marriages_ J.B.Baird to Mary Trammell April 18th, 1871 J.B.Baird to Hannah Stanfil Dec 28th 1873 J.B.Baird to Mary Brown Oct 22nd 1882 Elizabeth Baird to John Collins May 3, 1874 L.M.Baird to Mary A. Perkins September the 4th 1879 C.R.Baird to Ettie C. McCart June 1, 1884 Susie R.Baird to D.G.Nobels March 13th 1887 J.B.Baird to Sarah Perkins January 6th 1889 J.F.Baird to Martha Lay January 1st 1889 Z.D. Baird to Ella Baird August 24th 1887 P.C.Perkins to Mary E. Baird June 15th 1888 M.E. Baird to Julie Baird March 18th 1888 T.M.Baird to Julie Gibson Nov 6th 1892 Page 4 _Memoranda_ Jesse Baird My father Lewis M. Baird was born August the 22nd 1795 died May 1866 Elizabeth his wife was born December 28th 1797 died December the 29th 1882 My oldest bro. William Baird born Oct. the 19th 1817 He died May the 15th 1885 Page 5 _Deaths_ John S. Baird died June 13th 1885 Mary E. (Baird) Perkins wife of P.C. Perkins died December the 4th 1891 Louisa wife of Elder Jesse Baird died December the 24th 1898 Elizabeth (Baird) Collins died December the 17th 1910 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Spam detection software, running on the system "seeker.rootsquest.com", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see [EMAIL PROTECTED] for details. Content preview: Allen, I haven't seen a reply to this, but forgive me if I missed one. I would make the website the source. Use the name of the website and the title of the record (such as "Access Genealogy, Bible Records, FAMILY BIBLE OF JESSE BAIRD", put the URL in the publication details and the date you accessed it. I would then put the entire text in the Source Text. [...] Content analysis details: (3.2 points, 3.0 required) pts rule name description --
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I agree with Jennifer, with a couple of additions. Mills would suggest recording the full name of the Bible (Holy Bible, including both Old and New Testaments, or whatever - italicized), its publication date, and if possible it's provenance. Originally the Bible of xx, who left it to her daughter, xx, who left it to her son xx, currently in the possession of his sister xx (year). Janis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jennifer Crockett Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 6:57 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Family Bible Sourcing Allen, I haven't seen a reply to this, but forgive me if I missed one. I would make the website the source. Use the name of the website and the title of the record (such as "Access Genealogy, Bible Records, FAMILY BIBLE OF JESSE BAIRD", put the URL in the publication details and the date you accessed it. I would then put the entire text in the Source Text. When you use the Source for each person mentioned, you could put in Source Detail the page number and the record such as "Page 2, Births, Joseph B. Baird born Aug.25th 1854". That is just my take, others may have different ideas. Jennifer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allen Prunty Sent: Monday, 8 October 2007 1:35 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Family Bible Sourcing I found this on the web... it's supposively the bible record of my -Grandfather. How would I properly source this? Allen Bible Records FAMILY BIBLE OF JESSE BAIRD (Jesse's son Michael L. Baird came to Lincoln Co. abt.1919 and bought a farm in the Mt. Salem area. He died 1966 and is buried in the Hustonville Cemetery.) Page 1 This certifies that the rite of holy matrimony was celebrated between: Jesse Baird (preacher) of Campbell Co., Tenn. and Louisa Smith of Scott Co. Tenn on the 6th Aug.1853 at John Smith her pa's by Green Creekmore Esq. Page 2 _Births_ Jesse Baird born Nov 24, 1826 Louisa his wife born Nov 9th 1836 Joseph B. Baird born Aug.25th 1854 Calvin R. Baird born Oct 8th, 1855 Elizabeth Baird born Feb 8th 1857 John S. Baird born Sept 2nd 1858 Lewis M Baird born June 8th 1860 Zebedee D. Baird born June 15th 1862 James F. Baird born May 1st 1864 Milton E. Baird born Feb 10th 1867 Mary E. Baird born Dec 18th 1868 Rachel S. Baird born May 16,1871 Helen (?) J. Baird Feb 14th, 1873 Thomas M. Baird Nov 7th 1874 Michael L Baird Mar 8th 1878 Page 3 _Marriages_ J.B.Baird to Mary Trammell April 18th, 1871 J.B.Baird to Hannah Stanfil Dec 28th 1873 J.B.Baird to Mary Brown Oct 22nd 1882 Elizabeth Baird to John Collins May 3, 1874 L.M.Baird to Mary A. Perkins September the 4th 1879 C.R.Baird to Ettie C. McCart June 1, 1884 Susie R.Baird to D.G.Nobels March 13th 1887 J.B.Baird to Sarah Perkins January 6th 1889 J.F.Baird to Martha Lay January 1st 1889 Z.D. Baird to Ella Baird August 24th 1887 P.C.Perkins to Mary E. Baird June 15th 1888 M.E. Baird to Julie Baird March 18th 1888 T.M.Baird to Julie Gibson Nov 6th 1892 Page 4 _Memoranda_ Jesse Baird My father Lewis M. Baird was born August the 22nd 1795 died May 1866 Elizabeth his wife was born December 28th 1797 died December the 29th 1882 My oldest bro. William Baird born Oct. the 19th 1817 He died May the 15th 1885 Page 5 _Deaths_ John S. Baird died June 13th 1885 Mary E. (Baird) Perkins wife of P.C. Perkins died December the 4th 1891 Louisa wife of Elder Jesse Baird died December the 24th 1898 Elizabeth (Baird) Collins died December the 17th 1910 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Allen, I haven't seen a reply to this, but forgive me if I missed one. I would make the website the source. Use the name of the website and the title of the record (such as "Access Genealogy, Bible Records, FAMILY BIBLE OF JESSE BAIRD", put the URL in the publication details and the date you accessed it. I would then put the entire text in the Source Text. When you use the Source for each person mentioned, you could put in Source Detail the page number and the record such as "Page 2, Births, Joseph B. Baird born Aug.25th 1854". That is just my take, others may have different ideas. Jennifer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allen Prunty Sent: Monday, 8 October 2007 1:35 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Family Bible Sourcing I found this on the web... it's supposively the bible record of my -Grandfather. How would I properly source this? Allen Bible Records FAMILY BIBLE OF JESSE BAIRD (Jesse's son Michael L. Baird came to Lincoln Co. abt.1919 and bought a farm in the Mt. Salem area. He died 1966 and is buried in the Hustonville Cemetery.) Page 1 This certifies that the rite of holy matrimony was celebrated between: Jesse Baird (preacher) of Campbell Co., Tenn. and Louisa Smith of Scott Co. Tenn on the 6th Aug.1853 at John Smith her pa's by Green Creekmore Esq. Page 2 _Births_ Jesse Baird born Nov 24, 1826 Louisa his wife born Nov 9th 1836 Joseph B. Baird born Aug.25th 1854 Calvin R. Baird born Oct 8th, 1855 Elizabeth Baird born Feb 8th 1857 John S. Baird born Sept 2nd 1858 Lewis M Baird born June 8th 1860 Zebedee D. Baird born June 15th 1862 James F. Baird born May 1st 1864 Milton E. Baird born Feb 10th 1867 Mary E. Baird born Dec 18th 1868 Rachel S. Baird born May 16,1871 Helen (?) J. Baird Feb 14th, 1873 Thomas M. Baird Nov 7th 1874 Michael L Baird Mar 8th 1878 Page 3 _Marriages_ J.B.Baird to Mary Trammell April 18th, 1871 J.B.Baird to Hannah Stanfil Dec 28th 1873 J.B.Baird to Mary Brown Oct 22nd 1882 Elizabeth Baird to John Collins May 3, 1874 L.M.Baird to Mary A. Perkins September the 4th 1879 C.R.Baird to Ettie C. McCart June 1, 1884 Susie R.Baird to D.G.Nobels March 13th 1887 J.B.Baird to Sarah Perkins January 6th 1889 J.F.Baird to Martha Lay January 1st 1889 Z.D. Baird to Ella Baird August 24th 1887 P.C.Perkins to Mary E. Baird June 15th 1888 M.E. Baird to Julie Baird March 18th 1888 T.M.Baird to Julie Gibson Nov 6th 1892 Page 4 _Memoranda_ Jesse Baird My father Lewis M. Baird was born August the 22nd 1795 died May 1866 Elizabeth his wife was born December 28th 1797 died December the 29th 1882 My oldest bro. William Baird born Oct. the 19th 1817 He died May the 15th 1885 Page 5 _Deaths_ John S. Baird died June 13th 1885 Mary E. (Baird) Perkins wife of P.C. Perkins died December the 4th 1891 Louisa wife of Elder Jesse Baird died December the 24th 1898 Elizabeth (Baird) Collins died December the 17th 1910 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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I found this on the web... it's supposively the bible record of my -Grandfather. How would I properly source this? Allen Bible Records FAMILY BIBLE OF JESSE BAIRD (Jesse's son Michael L. Baird came to Lincoln Co. abt.1919 and bought a farm in the Mt. Salem area. He died 1966 and is buried in the Hustonville Cemetery.) Page 1 This certifies that the rite of holy matrimony was celebrated between: Jesse Baird (preacher) of Campbell Co., Tenn. and Louisa Smith of Scott Co. Tenn on the 6th Aug.1853 at John Smith her pa's by Green Creekmore Esq. Page 2 _Births_ Jesse Baird born Nov 24, 1826 Louisa his wife born Nov 9th 1836 Joseph B. Baird born Aug.25th 1854 Calvin R. Baird born Oct 8th, 1855 Elizabeth Baird born Feb 8th 1857 John S. Baird born Sept 2nd 1858 Lewis M Baird born June 8th 1860 Zebedee D. Baird born June 15th 1862 James F. Baird born May 1st 1864 Milton E. Baird born Feb 10th 1867 Mary E. Baird born Dec 18th 1868 Rachel S. Baird born May 16,1871 Helen (?) J. Baird Feb 14th, 1873 Thomas M. Baird Nov 7th 1874 Michael L Baird Mar 8th 1878 Page 3 _Marriages_ J.B.Baird to Mary Trammell April 18th, 1871 J.B.Baird to Hannah Stanfil Dec 28th 1873 J.B.Baird to Mary Brown Oct 22nd 1882 Elizabeth Baird to John Collins May 3, 1874 L.M.Baird to Mary A. Perkins September the 4th 1879 C.R.Baird to Ettie C. McCart June 1, 1884 Susie R.Baird to D.G.Nobels March 13th 1887 J.B.Baird to Sarah Perkins January 6th 1889 J.F.Baird to Martha Lay January 1st 1889 Z.D. Baird to Ella Baird August 24th 1887 P.C.Perkins to Mary E. Baird June 15th 1888 M.E. Baird to Julie Baird March 18th 1888 T.M.Baird to Julie Gibson Nov 6th 1892 Page 4 _Memoranda_ Jesse Baird My father Lewis M. Baird was born August the 22nd 1795 died May 1866 Elizabeth his wife was born December 28th 1797 died December the 29th 1882 My oldest bro. William Baird born Oct. the 19th 1817 He died May the 15th 1885 Page 5 _Deaths_ John S. Baird died June 13th 1885 Mary E. (Baird) Perkins wife of P.C. Perkins died December the 4th 1891 Louisa wife of Elder Jesse Baird died December the 24th 1898 Elizabeth (Baird) Collins died December the 17th 1910 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
