Re: [LegacyUG] How to scan and copy a text record int Legacy "Events"
Ahhh...sorry. I should have said, make an image of the document, then use software (such as Paint Shop) to darken the text, print the document and OCR it. This is the long way around the barn but sometimes it works. Smiles, Yvonne Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] How to scan and copy a text record int Legacy "Events"
You might also darken the text using software such as Corel Paint Shop Pro. I did that recently on some old letters from Sweden and the text sharpened up considerably. Then try OCR'ing it. Using Paint Shop think I used Color, Fade Correction but you need to play around with the options to see what does or doesn't work. Yvonne Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to scan and copy a text record int Legacy "Events" Try what you have; adjust the scanner resolution as the OCR software directs; play with the scanner brightness, contrast, and gamma controls to get the best scan. > John Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] How to scan and copy a text record int Legacy "Events"
As has been said, attaching the image is quick, easy and 100% accurate. Even from a clear image of good typescript, OCR results are rarely 100%. Bottom line: OCR takes time, will introduce errors and lose formatting. I can see one only advantage - the resulting text will be searchable in Legacy. -- Mary Young
Re: [LegacyUG] How to scan and copy a text record int Legacy "Events"
You can try the OCR - but my experience is not good. I have MANY documents saved as jpg and (if you leave them big enough) - you can easily zoom to see the detail with no problems. I still think that is the best solution. Keith On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Pam O'Dell wrote: > Bill, > > You could check your printer information and see if an OCR file is > included. If so, just > install it and when you scan the item it will give you the option to save as > text. Mine > works great. > > Pam > >> Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 21:34:38 +0200 >> From: mike...@iafrica.com >> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com >> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to scan and copy a text record int Legacy >> "Events" >> >> Bill Rhodes wrote: >> > I have some copies of Revolutionary War military records, typewritten >> > from the original, which I have been trying to scan to a file, then copy >> > & paste into Legacy "Events". I am trying to avoid time consuming >> > re-typing. Even though I change the image from jpg to text or PDF I >> > cannot copy them - I am unable to highlight the text and do a control c. >> > I've tried every trick I know but no luck. What am I doing wrong and >> > what is the correct way? >> >> That won't work. Scanning produces an image. To cut and paste text you >> need to be able to convert your image into a document. >> >> To do that, you need an extra piece of software that performs OCR >> (Optical Character Recognition). The basic idea is that the software >> can, given some basic details about the image, translate individual >> patterns of pixels into an ASCII character. Be aware, most OCR software >> is not very good at this because of the poor images they have to work >> from, and you'll spend a lot of time correcting what the OCR software >> thinks it has read. >> >> -- >> Regards, >> Mike Fry >> Johannesburg. >> >> >> >> Legacy User Group guidelines: >> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >> Archived messages: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ >> Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >> To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp >> >> >> > > > Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- Surnames: McKain, Horn, Riale, Ulrich, Erisman, Leiphart, Reed and Henry Website: http://home.comcast.net/~geosci64 EMail: geosc...@gmail.com McCain-McKane-O'Kane DNA Group 1 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] How to scan and copy a text record int Legacy "Events"
Bill, It sounds like you only have an image. Your scanner should come with an OCR option, which performs character recognition during or after the scan. If not, look for a third party OCR program. Ward - Original Message - From: Bill Rhodes To: Legacy Users Group Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 3:07 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] How to scan and copy a text record int Legacy "Events" I have some copies of Revolutionary War military records, typewritten from the original, which I have been trying to scan to a file, then copy & paste into Legacy "Events". I am trying to avoid time consuming re-typing. Even though I change the image from jpg to text or PDF I cannot copy them - I am unable to highlight the text and do a control c. I've tried every trick I know but no luck. What am I doing wrong and what is the correct way? Bill Rhodes Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] How to scan and copy a text record int Legacy "Events"
The magic phrase here is OCR - optical character recognition. Some scanner software includes entry level OCR software. If the original is good quality (letters evenly dark, etc) then the supplied OCR software may be adequate. My experiences with the OCR software that comes with scanners indicate that these programs work for at most 85% of the text on a page unless the original is very good quality and the font is one that the OCR software is optimzed for. Really good OCR software is typically in the $400 and up (and up and up)range. Try what you have; adjust the scanner resolution as the OCR software directs; play with the scanner brightness, contrast, and gamma controls to get the best scan. Of course, this could take more time than retyping the originals - there is (as yet) no device that translates ink or pencil on paper better than the human eye and brain. John > I have some copies of Revolutionary War military records, typewritten from > the original, which I have been trying to scan to a file, then copy & > paste > into Legacy "Events". I am trying to avoid time consuming re-typing. Even > though I change the image from jpg to text or PDF I cannot copy them - I > am > unable to highlight the text and do a control c. I've tried every trick I > know but no luck. What am I doing wrong and what is the correct way? > > Bill Rhodes > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] How to scan and copy a text record int Legacy "Events"
I would suggest copying them as images (jpg) and save them as pictures. Works for me! Keith On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Bill Rhodes wrote: > I have some copies of Revolutionary War military records, typewritten from > the original, which I have been trying to scan to a file, then copy & paste > into Legacy "Events". I am trying to avoid time consuming re-typing. Even > though I change the image from jpg to text or PDF I cannot copy them - I am > unable to highlight the text and do a control c. I've tried every trick I > know but no luck. What am I doing wrong and what is the correct way? > > Bill Rhodes > -- Surnames: McKain, Horn, Riale, Ulrich, Erisman, Leiphart, Reed and Henry Website: http://home.comcast.net/~geosci64 EMail: geosc...@gmail.com McCain-McKane-O'Kane DNA Group 1 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] How to scan and copy a text record int Legacy "Events"
Bill, You could check your printer information and see if an OCR file is included. If so, just install it and when you scan the item it will give you the option to save as text. Mine works great. Pam > Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 21:34:38 +0200 > From: mike...@iafrica.com > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to scan and copy a text record int Legacy "Events" > > Bill Rhodes wrote: > > I have some copies of Revolutionary War military records, typewritten > > from the original, which I have been trying to scan to a file, then copy > > & paste into Legacy "Events". I am trying to avoid time consuming > > re-typing. Even though I change the image from jpg to text or PDF I > > cannot copy them - I am unable to highlight the text and do a control c. > > I've tried every trick I know but no luck. What am I doing wrong and > > what is the correct way? > > That won't work. Scanning produces an image. To cut and paste text you > need to be able to convert your image into a document. > > To do that, you need an extra piece of software that performs OCR > (Optical Character Recognition). The basic idea is that the software > can, given some basic details about the image, translate individual > patterns of pixels into an ASCII character. Be aware, most OCR software > is not very good at this because of the poor images they have to work > from, and you'll spend a lot of time correcting what the OCR software > thinks it has read. > > -- > Regards, > Mike Fry > Johannesburg. > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > _ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_BR_life_in_synch_052009 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] How to scan and copy a text record int Legacy "Events"
After you scan your image you can link it into Events Pictures, the same as you would link any other image. You can't copy them into Notes or anything like that. If you want to turn your image into text, that requires OCR software, which either comes with your scanner, or you can buy or possibly find for free. You cannot scan an image and then highlight the text, per se. It takes special software to turn image text into text-text. - JL JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog Bill Rhodes wrote: I have some copies of Revolutionary War military records, typewritten from the original, which I have been trying to scan to a file, then copy & paste into Legacy "Events". I am trying to avoid time consuming re-typing. Even though I change the image from jpg to text or PDF I cannot copy them - I am unable to highlight the text and do a control c. I've tried every trick I know but no luck. What am I doing wrong and what is the correct way? Bill Rhodes Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] How to scan and copy a text record int Legacy "Events"
Bill Rhodes wrote: I have some copies of Revolutionary War military records, typewritten from the original, which I have been trying to scan to a file, then copy & paste into Legacy "Events". I am trying to avoid time consuming re-typing. Even though I change the image from jpg to text or PDF I cannot copy them - I am unable to highlight the text and do a control c. I've tried every trick I know but no luck. What am I doing wrong and what is the correct way? That won't work. Scanning produces an image. To cut and paste text you need to be able to convert your image into a document. To do that, you need an extra piece of software that performs OCR (Optical Character Recognition). The basic idea is that the software can, given some basic details about the image, translate individual patterns of pixels into an ASCII character. Be aware, most OCR software is not very good at this because of the poor images they have to work from, and you'll spend a lot of time correcting what the OCR software thinks it has read. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] How to scan and copy a text record int Legacy "Events"
You have two options: 1. Attach the PDF or jpg or text doc to the event (or to the Source or Source Detail) 2. If your scan software has the option of OCR, you can convert the scan to text, then paste it into the event (or Source or Source Detail). [My impression from what you said is that you simply changed the filename extension to ".txt" but didn't actually convert it.] Mike Michael J Method family research of: Method, Feehily, Fredrick, Herzog, tenEyck, Belsley In a message dated 5/4/2009 3:08:42 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, wlrho...@gmail.com writes: I have some copies of Revolutionary War military records, typewritten from the original, which I have been trying to scan to a file, then copy & paste into Legacy "Events". I am trying to avoid time consuming re-typing. Even though I change the image from jpg to text or PDF I cannot copy them - I am unable to highlight the text and do a control c. I've tried every trick I know but no luck. What am I doing wrong and what is the correct way? Bill Rhodes **2009 3 Free CREDIT SCORES: See Your 3 Credit Scores from All 3 Bureaus FREE! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221797372x1201397989/aol?redir=https:%2F%2Fwww.freescore.com%2FOffers%2FStart%2FFreeCreditRepor tAndScore.aspx%3FID%3D91831F371F138345B53A153F49D4D872%26siteid%3De927580bf7 ) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] How to scan and copy a text record int Legacy "Events"
Bill, To do what you require you need an optical text reader to convert the image to text. These are often supplied with the scanner software so I would first check that you haven't got one. Failing that Google will find some (including free downloads) Ron Ferguson _ *New Tutorial* Create Standards Compliant CSS Pedigree web pages http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ > Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 15:07:27 -0400 > Subject: [LegacyUG] How to scan and copy a text record int Legacy "Events" > From: wlrho...@gmail.com > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > > I have some copies of Revolutionary War military records, typewritten from > the original, which I have been trying to scan to a file, then copy & paste > into Legacy "Events". I am trying to avoid time consuming re-typing. Even > though I change the image from jpg to text or PDF I cannot copy them - I am > unable to highlight the text and do a control c. I've tried every trick I > know but no luck. What am I doing wrong and what is the correct way? > > > Bill Rhodes _ View your Twitter and Flickr updates from one place – Learn more! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/137984870/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] How to scan and copy a text record int Legacy "Events"
I have some copies of Revolutionary War military records, typewritten from the original, which I have been trying to scan to a file, then copy & paste into Legacy "Events". I am trying to avoid time consuming re-typing. Even though I change the image from jpg to text or PDF I cannot copy them - I am unable to highlight the text and do a control c. I've tried every trick I know but no luck. What am I doing wrong and what is the correct way? Bill Rhodes
