Re: [LegacyUG] Question about mass cleanup of location
OK, testing your method, I have a location: Warrington Reformed Lutheren Church, Dover Twp, York Co, Pennsylvania So I click on Sort (which has been set to right-to-left) and then can't find the location at all. This is why I thought that the use of parentheses was necessary. Am I wrong? On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.ukwrote: Arnold Sprague wrote I take a different approach to this and list the cemetery as a *location*, but in a different order from what you have done in the past. Here are two examples: 1. Chicago, Cook, IL, USA, Graceland Cemetery 2. Chicago, Cook, IL, USA, Graceland Cemetery, Sprague plot What is good, *for me*, is that, in the Master Location List, the sort is based on state, city, county, country, etc., so this particular cemetery is part of the Chicago crowd. But if you entered them in the normal way - Graceland Cemetery, Chicago, Cook, IL, USA - and then sorted from right to left that entry would still be part of the Chicago crowd as you put it! Plus you'd have a normal-looking address. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question about mass cleanup of location
Randy Clark wrote OK, testing your method, I have a location: Warrington Reformed Lutheren Church, Dover Twp, York Co, Pennsylvania So I click on Sort (which has been set to right-to-left) and then can't find the location at all. This is why I thought that the use of parentheses was necessary. Am I wrong? Your list should still be alphabetical and if you slide down to the Ps you should find all the Pennsylvanias together and near the bottom of them Pennsylvania, York County and if you have several locations in York Country Dover Twp is probably one of the first and again, if you have several locations in Dover Twp I suspect Warrington Reformed Lutheran Church is one of the last. (It's simply a case of knowing your alphabet, you see!) -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question about mass cleanup of location
OK, it's working. Whoever said that parentheses needed to be used needs to come over right now and help me remove them[?]. BTW I left Lutheran misspelled as that's how it was in the original. Thanks. On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 7:05 AM, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.ukwrote: Randy Clark wrote OK, testing your method, I have a location: Warrington Reformed Lutheren Church, Dover Twp, York Co, Pennsylvania So I click on Sort (which has been set to right-to-left) and then can't find the location at all. This is why I thought that the use of parentheses was necessary. Am I wrong? Your list should still be alphabetical and if you slide down to the Ps you should find all the Pennsylvanias together and near the bottom of them Pennsylvania, York County and if you have several locations in York Country Dover Twp is probably one of the first and again, if you have several locations in Dover Twp I suspect Warrington Reformed Lutheran Church is one of the last. (It's simply a case of knowing your alphabet, you see!) -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp 328.png
Re: [LegacyUG] Question about mass cleanup of location
The problems with doing this are presented in the 2nd CD tutorial. If you try to sort your localities by county or state, having the cemetery in the city location will cause the city to sort as a county. A better option is to use the + symbol by the burial and then enter the cemetery location and address in the burial address field. This way the location field can be used as designed, and the complete address information is available. Jim On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote: Randy Clark wrote OK, testing your method, I have a location: Warrington Reformed Lutheren Church, Dover Twp, York Co, Pennsylvania So I click on Sort (which has been set to right-to-left) and then can't find the location at all. This is why I thought that the use of parentheses was necessary. Am I wrong? Your list should still be alphabetical and if you slide down to the Ps you should find all the Pennsylvanias together and near the bottom of them Pennsylvania, York County and if you have several locations in York Country Dover Twp is probably one of the first and again, if you have several locations in Dover Twp I suspect Warrington Reformed Lutheran Church is one of the last. (It's simply a case of knowing your alphabet, you see!) -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question about mass cleanup of location
Jim, Why is your option a better method? I accept that the method of including the cemetery, and indeed house and street names in the Location field, and then right sorting does mean that the output is not suitable for the Geolocation function, but then that American function does not work for most non American countries (and as I understand it many American ones as well). Nor do I like loads of commas in Locations. Hence I rarely use it, and can tolerate a temporary rewrite of a location to make it fit if I do. Furthermore the Geolocation detabase requires modern locations and is no good for the no longer valid historic ones. In my view, not sufficient reason to say that 2ndCD method is better. Also, I would be interested to know how you manage to get Legacy to write in a report or web page place of burial: Peel Green Cemetery, Peel Green, Eccles, Lancashire, England, for example or even Forest Glade Cemetery, Wakefield, Middlesex, Masshatusetts, U.S.A. if you prefer it Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed Blogger RSS feed into your Website http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ Jim Walton wrote: The problems with doing this are presented in the 2nd CD tutorial. If you try to sort your localities by county or state, having the cemetery in the city location will cause the city to sort as a county. A better option is to use the + symbol by the burial and then enter the cemetery location and address in the burial address field. This way the location field can be used as designed, and the complete address information is available. Jim On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote: Randy Clark wrote OK, testing your method, I have a location: Warrington Reformed Lutheren Church, Dover Twp, York Co, Pennsylvania So I click on Sort (which has been set to right-to-left) and then can't find the location at all. This is why I thought that the use of parentheses was necessary. Am I wrong? Your list should still be alphabetical and if you slide down to the Ps you should find all the Pennsylvanias together and near the bottom of them Pennsylvania, York County and if you have several locations in York Country Dover Twp is probably one of the first and again, if you have several locations in Dover Twp I suspect Warrington Reformed Lutheran Church is one of the last. (It's simply a case of knowing your alphabet, you see!) -- Jenny M Benson _ New Tutorial: Embed Blogger RSS feed into your Website http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ Follow me on twitter http://twitter.com/ronfergy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question about mass cleanup of location
Ron, EASY! Make the burial an EVENT - for my Grandfather - Armor LeRoy McKain is says: Events 1. He was buried at the Greenwood Cemetery in Lancaster, PA. Mifflin Section - Lot 559 Find-A-Grave # 38226479 Works for me! Keith -- Find-A-Grave County Keeper for Schuylkill County, PA Keith A. McKain McCain-McKane-O'Kane DNA Group 1 - # Mc17936 Website: http://home.comcast.net/~geosci64 Email: geosc...@comcast.net On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Ron Ferguson rnldfe...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: Jim, Why is your option a better method? I accept that the method of including the cemetery, and indeed house and street names in the Location field, and then right sorting does mean that the output is not suitable for the Geolocation function, but then that American function does not work for most non American countries (and as I understand it many American ones as well). Nor do I like loads of commas in Locations. Hence I rarely use it, and can tolerate a temporary rewrite of a location to make it fit if I do. Furthermore the Geolocation detabase requires modern locations and is no good for the no longer valid historic ones. In my view, not sufficient reason to say that 2ndCD method is better. Also, I would be interested to know how you manage to get Legacy to write in a report or web page place of burial: Peel Green Cemetery, Peel Green, Eccles, Lancashire, England, for example or even Forest Glade Cemetery, Wakefield, Middlesex, Masshatusetts, U.S.A. if you prefer it Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed Blogger RSS feed into your Website http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ Jim Walton wrote: The problems with doing this are presented in the 2nd CD tutorial. If you try to sort your localities by county or state, having the cemetery in the city location will cause the city to sort as a county. A better option is to use the + symbol by the burial and then enter the cemetery location and address in the burial address field. This way the location field can be used as designed, and the complete address information is available. Jim On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote: Randy Clark wrote OK, testing your method, I have a location: Warrington Reformed Lutheren Church, Dover Twp, York Co, Pennsylvania So I click on Sort (which has been set to right-to-left) and then can't find the location at all. This is why I thought that the use of parentheses was necessary. Am I wrong? Your list should still be alphabetical and if you slide down to the Ps you should find all the Pennsylvanias together and near the bottom of them Pennsylvania, York County and if you have several locations in York Country Dover Twp is probably one of the first and again, if you have several locations in Dover Twp I suspect Warrington Reformed Lutheran Church is one of the last. (It's simply a case of knowing your alphabet, you see!) -- Jenny M Benson _ New Tutorial: Embed Blogger RSS feed into your Website http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ Follow me on twitter http://twitter.com/ronfergy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question about mass cleanup of location
Sure you can Keith, but I don't have to as it's in the Burial Location field, so I do not need the clutter of Burial Events. Just out of interest, because I can think of two, or more, ways of getting your output from the Events, which are you using (in detail please - wrt the description, location, address fields). Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed Blogger RSS feed into your Website http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ Follow me on twitter http://twitter.com/ronfergy GeoSci wrote: Ron, EASY! Make the burial an EVENT - for my Grandfather - Armor LeRoy McKain is says: Events 1. He was buried at the Greenwood Cemetery in Lancaster, PA. Mifflin Section - Lot 559 Find-A-Grave # 38226479 Works for me! Keith On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Ron Ferguson rnldfe...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: Jim, Why is your option a better method? I accept that the method of including the cemetery, and indeed house and street names in the Location field, and then right sorting does mean that the output is not suitable for the Geolocation function, but then that American function does not work for most non American countries (and as I understand it many American ones as well). Nor do I like loads of commas in Locations. Hence I rarely use it, and can tolerate a temporary rewrite of a location to make it fit if I do. Furthermore the Geolocation detabase requires modern locations and is no good for the no longer valid historic ones. In my view, not sufficient reason to say that 2ndCD method is better. Also, I would be interested to know how you manage to get Legacy to write in a report or web page place of burial: Peel Green Cemetery, Peel Green, Eccles, Lancashire, England, for example or even Forest Glade Cemetery, Wakefield, Middlesex, Masshatusetts, U.S.A. if you prefer it Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed Blogger RSS feed into your Website http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ Jim Walton wrote: The problems with doing this are presented in the 2nd CD tutorial. If you try to sort your localities by county or state, having the cemetery in the city location will cause the city to sort as a county. A better option is to use the + symbol by the burial and then enter the cemetery location and address in the burial address field. This way the location field can be used as designed, and the complete address information is available. Jim On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote: Randy Clark wrote OK, testing your method, I have a location: Warrington Reformed Lutheren Church, Dover Twp, York Co, Pennsylvania So I click on Sort (which has been set to right-to-left) and then can't find the location at all. This is why I thought that the use of parentheses was necessary. Am I wrong? Your list should still be alphabetical and if you slide down to the Ps you should find all the Pennsylvanias together and near the bottom of them Pennsylvania, York County and if you have several locations in York Country Dover Twp is probably one of the first and again, if you have several locations in Dover Twp I suspect Warrington Reformed Lutheran Church is one of the last. (It's simply a case of knowing your alphabet, you see!) -- Jenny M Benson _ New Tutorial: Embed Blogger RSS feed into your Website http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ Follow me on twitter http://twitter.com/ronfergy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question about mass cleanup of location
Ron, I just prefer the way Events come out in a report. For this - I named the event Cemetery (just start typing and it pops up in Event) ; under Description I put the cemetery name : under date I put the date of burial (at least year) : under Place I put the location (City,County,State,USA for most of mine) and finally in Notes I put the Plot and/or Find-A-Grave number. Keith -- Find-A-Grave County Keeper for Schuylkill County, PA Keith A. McKain McCain-McKane-O'Kane DNA Group 1 - # Mc17936 Website: http://home.comcast.net/~geosci64 Email: geosc...@comcast.net On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Ron Ferguson rnldfe...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: Sure you can Keith, but I don't have to as it's in the Burial Location field, so I do not need the clutter of Burial Events. Just out of interest, because I can think of two, or more, ways of getting your output from the Events, which are you using (in detail please - wrt the description, location, address fields). Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed Blogger RSS feed into your Website http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ Follow me on twitter http://twitter.com/ronfergy GeoSci wrote: Ron, EASY! Make the burial an EVENT - for my Grandfather - Armor LeRoy McKain is says: Events 1. He was buried at the Greenwood Cemetery in Lancaster, PA. Mifflin Section - Lot 559 Find-A-Grave # 38226479 Works for me! Keith On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Ron Ferguson rnldfe...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: Jim, Why is your option a better method? I accept that the method of including the cemetery, and indeed house and street names in the Location field, and then right sorting does mean that the output is not suitable for the Geolocation function, but then that American function does not work for most non American countries (and as I understand it many American ones as well). Nor do I like loads of commas in Locations. Hence I rarely use it, and can tolerate a temporary rewrite of a location to make it fit if I do. Furthermore the Geolocation detabase requires modern locations and is no good for the no longer valid historic ones. In my view, not sufficient reason to say that 2ndCD method is better. Also, I would be interested to know how you manage to get Legacy to write in a report or web page place of burial: Peel Green Cemetery, Peel Green, Eccles, Lancashire, England, for example or even Forest Glade Cemetery, Wakefield, Middlesex, Masshatusetts, U.S.A. if you prefer it Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed Blogger RSS feed into your Website http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ Jim Walton wrote: The problems with doing this are presented in the 2nd CD tutorial. If you try to sort your localities by county or state, having the cemetery in the city location will cause the city to sort as a county. A better option is to use the + symbol by the burial and then enter the cemetery location and address in the burial address field. This way the location field can be used as designed, and the complete address information is available. Jim On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote: Randy Clark wrote OK, testing your method, I have a location: Warrington Reformed Lutheren Church, Dover Twp, York Co, Pennsylvania So I click on Sort (which has been set to right-to-left) and then can't find the location at all. This is why I thought that the use of parentheses was necessary. Am I wrong? Your list should still be alphabetical and if you slide down to the Ps you should find all the Pennsylvanias together and near the bottom of them Pennsylvania, York County and if you have several locations in York Country Dover Twp is probably one of the first and again, if you have several locations in Dover Twp I suspect Warrington Reformed Lutheran Church is one of the last. (It's simply a case of knowing your alphabet, you see!) -- Jenny M Benson _ New Tutorial: Embed Blogger RSS feed into your Website http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ Follow me on twitter http://twitter.com/ronfergy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question about mass cleanup of location
The main point is being missed of the Geo tool. If you put in the 'current' place name, get the actual long/lat and save those numbers. Then you can change the spelling (to Lutheren) or previous names (Massachusetts Bay Colony). I copy/duplicate the L/L into the notes. I don't open Geo again (for the same place). You can then use as many fields as you prefer. Rich in LA CA - Original Message From: Ron Ferguson rnldfe...@tiscali.co.uk To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sat, October 31, 2009 8:49:47 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Question about mass cleanup of location Jim, Why is your option a better method? I accept that the method of including the cemetery, and indeed house and street names in the Location field, and then right sorting does mean that the output is not suitable for the Geolocation function, but then that American function does not work for most non American countries (and as I understand it many American ones as well). Nor do I like loads of commas in Locations. Hence I rarely use it, and can tolerate a temporary rewrite of a location to make it fit if I do. Furthermore the Geolocation detabase requires modern locations and is no good for the no longer valid historic ones. In my view, not sufficient reason to say that 2ndCD method is better. Also, I would be interested to know how you manage to get Legacy to write in a report or web page place of burial: Peel Green Cemetery, Peel Green, Eccles, Lancashire, England, for example or even Forest Glade Cemetery, Wakefield, Middlesex, Masshatusetts, U.S.A. if you prefer it Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed Blogger RSS feed into your Website http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ Jim Walton wrote: The problems with doing this are presented in the 2nd CD tutorial. If you try to sort your localities by county or state, having the cemetery in the city location will cause the city to sort as a county. A better option is to use the + symbol by the burial and then enter the cemetery location and address in the burial address field. This way the location field can be used as designed, and the complete address information is available. Jim On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote: Randy Clark wrote OK, testing your method, I have a location: Warrington Reformed Lutheren Church, Dover Twp, York Co, Pennsylvania So I click on Sort (which has been set to right-to-left) and then can't find the location at all. This is why I thought that the use of parentheses was necessary. Am I wrong? Your list should still be alphabetical and if you slide down to the Ps you should find all the Pennsylvanias together and near the bottom of them Pennsylvania, York County and if you have several locations in York Country Dover Twp is probably one of the first and again, if you have several locations in Dover Twp I suspect Warrington Reformed Lutheran Church is one of the last. (It's simply a case of knowing your alphabet, you see!) -- Jenny M Benson _ New Tutorial: Embed Blogger RSS feed into your Website http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ Follow me on twitter http://twitter.com/ronfergy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question about mass cleanup of location
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 16:12:05 -, Ron Ferguson rnldfe...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: Sure you can Keith, but I don't have to as it's in the Burial Location field, so I do not need the clutter of Burial Events. Just out of interest, because I can think of two, or more, ways of getting your output from the Events, which are you using (in detail please - wrt the description, location, address fields). One advantage to making it an Event would be the ability to print tombstone photos in reports. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Question about mass cleanup of location
And don't forget, with Cemetery entered as an Event, you can now attach a photograph of the gravestone which will also print out in reports. You can also make the photograph a Source for your Cemetery event as well as a source for Burial location, Name, Birth date, and Death date. Brian in CA -Original Message- From: GeoSci [mailto:geosc...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 9:38 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Question about mass cleanup of location Ron, I just prefer the way Events come out in a report. For this - I named the event Cemetery (just start typing and it pops up in Event) ; under Description I put the cemetery name : under date I put the date of burial (at least year) : under Place I put the location (City,County,State,USA for most of mine) and finally in Notes I put the Plot and/or Find-A-Grave number. Keith -- Find-A-Grave County Keeper for Schuylkill County, PA Keith A. McKain McCain-McKane-O'Kane DNA Group 1 - # Mc17936 Website: http://home.comcast.net/~geosci64 Email: geosc...@comcast.net On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Ron Ferguson rnldfe...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: Sure you can Keith, but I don't have to as it's in the Burial Location field, so I do not need the clutter of Burial Events. Just out of interest, because I can think of two, or more, ways of getting your output from the Events, which are you using (in detail please - wrt the description, location, address fields). Ron Ferguson _ GeoSci wrote: Ron, EASY! Make the burial an EVENT - for my Grandfather - Armor LeRoy McKain is says: Events 1. He was buried at the Greenwood Cemetery in Lancaster, PA. Mifflin Section - Lot 559 Find-A-Grave # 38226479 Works for me! Keith On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Ron Ferguson rnldfe...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: Jim, Why is your option a better method? I accept that the method of including the cemetery, and indeed house and street names in the Location field, and then right sorting does mean that the output is not suitable for the Geolocation function, but then that American function does not work for most non American countries (and as I understand it many American ones as well). Nor do I like loads of commas in Locations. Hence I rarely use it, and can tolerate a temporary rewrite of a location to make it fit if I do. Furthermore the Geolocation detabase requires modern locations and is no good for the no longer valid historic ones. In my view, not sufficient reason to say that 2ndCD method is better. Also, I would be interested to know how you manage to get Legacy to write in a report or web page place of burial: Peel Green Cemetery, Peel Green, Eccles, Lancashire, England, for example or even Forest Glade Cemetery, Wakefield, Middlesex, Masshatusetts, U.S.A. if you prefer it Ron Ferguson _ Jim Walton wrote: The problems with doing this are presented in the 2nd CD tutorial. If you try to sort your localities by county or state, having the cemetery in the city location will cause the city to sort as a county. A better option is to use the + symbol by the burial and then enter the cemetery location and address in the burial address field. This way the location field can be used as designed, and the complete address information is available. Jim On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote: Randy Clark wrote OK, testing your method, I have a location: Warrington Reformed Lutheren Church, Dover Twp, York Co, Pennsylvania So I click on Sort (which has been set to right-to-left) and then can't find the location at all. This is why I thought that the use of parentheses was necessary. Am I wrong? Your list should still be alphabetical and if you slide down to the Ps you should find all the Pennsylvanias together and near the bottom of them Pennsylvania, York County and if you have several locations in York Country Dover Twp is probably one of the first and again, if you have several locations in Dover Twp I suspect Warrington Reformed Lutheran Church is one of the last. (It's simply a case of knowing your alphabet, you see!) -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question about mass cleanup of location
Brian L. Lightfoot wrote And don't forget, with Cemetery entered as an Event, you can now attach a photograph of the gravestone which will also print out in reports. You can also make the photograph a Source for your Cemetery event as well as a source for Burial location, Name, Birth date, and Death date. Like Ron, I do not want the clutter of Burial Events but I do have photographs of gravestones etc which I might want to have show in a report and I think it is important to remember that gravestones are not *necessarily* proof of a burial in a particular place. My solution is to have an Event named Memorial (this might be a standard Legacy one, I forget) with a sentence something like ‹b›[EventName]‹/b›: [Desc] [inPlace] bears the inscription [Notes].[Sources] which reads Memorial: a Gravestone in Flaybrick Hill Cemetery [full address here] bears the inscription ... This covers not only gravestones but memorial plaques, War Memorials, headstones which have been removed from their original site, etc. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question about mass cleanup of location
Dennis M. Kowallek wrote: On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 16:12:05 -, Ron Ferguson rnldfe...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: Sure you can Keith, but I don't have to as it's in the Burial Location field, so I do not need the clutter of Burial Events. Just out of interest, because I can think of two, or more, ways of getting your output from the Events, which are you using (in detail please - wrt the description, location, address fields). One advantage to making it an Event would be the ability to print tombstone photos in reports. Very true, Dennis and, for me, that is about the only advantage of a separate Event. Although I often suggest this method for those who find they cannot attach pictures, I do not use it myself as whether in a report or on a webpage, I prefer to position them myself. Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed Blogger RSS feed into your Website http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Question about mass cleanup of location
I am in the process of a huge cleanup of my location database as I never used the Geo location database in the past and want to use it now. Although the cleanup is time consuming, it’s coming along nicely. I have arrived at a huge job and I’m wondering if someone can help me make it easier. In the past, I listed cemeteries as a location, such as: Maplewood Cemetery, New Lexington, Perry Co., OH. In my cleanup, I am creating an Event called Cemetery, listing the name of the cemetery in the Description field, and then listing the city, county, state, country in the Location field. I then revise the Buried location field to list just the city, county, state, country. My problem is that I probably have 70+ relatives buried in Maplewood Cemetery and don’t want to go through each one individually adding the Event, and then revising the Buried field to list the city, county, state, country. I’ve never used tagging and looked at it as a possibility, but wasn’t sure where to begin. I have MS Access 2007 and opened a copy of the database with it hoping I could figure out an easy fix there, but to no avail. I’ve been fighting a migraine headache today, so am probably missing something easy.☺ Can anyone help me make this easy? Thanks in advance. Brenda Van Dyke b...@columbus.rr.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question about mass cleanup of location
Brenda, I take a different approach to this and list the cemetery as a *location*, but in a different order from what you have done in the past. Here are two examples: 1. Chicago, Cook, IL, USA, Graceland Cemetery 2. Chicago, Cook, IL, USA, Graceland Cemetery, Sprague plot What is good, *for me*, is that, in the Master Location List, the sort is based on state, city, county, country, etc., so this particular cemetery is part of the Chicago crowd. Arnold At 05:26 PM 10/30/2009, you wrote: I am in the process of a huge cleanup of my location database as I never used the Geo location database in the past and want to use it now. Although the cleanup is time consuming, itâs coming along nicely. I have arrived at a huge job and Iâm wondering if someone can help me make it easier. In the past, I listed cemeteries as a location, such as: Maplewood Cemetery, New Lexington, Perry Co., OH. In my cleanup, I am creating an Event called Cemetery, listing the name of the cemetery in the Description field, and then listing the city, county, state, country in the Location field. I then revise the Buried location field to list just the city, county, state, country. My problem is that I probably have 70+ relatives buried in Maplewood Cemetery and donât want to go through each one individually adding the Event, and then revising the Buried field to list the city, county, state, country. Iâve never used tagging and looked at it as a possibility, but wasnât sure where to begin. I have MS Access 2007 and opened a copy of the database with it hoping I could figure out an easy fix there, but to no avail. Iâve been fighting a migraine headache today, so am probably missing something easy.⺠Can anyone help me make this easy? Thanks in advance. Brenda Van Dyke b...@columbus.rr.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question about mass cleanup of location
Arnold Sprague wrote I take a different approach to this and list the cemetery as a *location*, but in a different order from what you have done in the past. Here are two examples: 1. Chicago, Cook, IL, USA, Graceland Cemetery 2. Chicago, Cook, IL, USA, Graceland Cemetery, Sprague plot What is good, *for me*, is that, in the Master Location List, the sort is based on state, city, county, country, etc., so this particular cemetery is part of the Chicago crowd. But if you entered them in the normal way - Graceland Cemetery, Chicago, Cook, IL, USA - and then sorted from right to left that entry would still be part of the Chicago crowd as you put it! Plus you'd have a normal-looking address. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question about mass cleanup of location
Brenda J. Van Dyke wrote: I am in the process of a huge cleanup of my location database as I never used the Geo location database in the past and want to use it now. Although the cleanup is time consuming, it’s coming along nicely. I have arrived at a huge job and I’m wondering if someone can help me make it easier. In the past, I listed cemeteries as a location, such as: Maplewood Cemetery, New Lexington, Perry Co., OH. In my cleanup, I am creating an Event called Cemetery, listing the name of the cemetery in the Description field, and then listing the city, county, state, country in the Location field. I then revise the Buried location field to list just the city, county, state, country. My problem is that I probably have 70+ relatives buried in Maplewood Cemetery and don’t want to go through each one individually adding the Event, and then revising the Buried field to list the city, county, state, country. I’ve never used tagging and looked at it as a possibility, but wasn’t sure where to begin. I have MS Access 2007 and opened a copy of the database with it hoping I could figure out an easy fix there, but to no avail. I’ve been fighting a migraine headache today, so am probably missing something easy.☺ Can anyone help me make this easy? Thanks in advance. Brenda Van Dyke b...@columbus.rr.com Brenda, I suggest that you leave the change in the burial field until you have finished, by which time you can go to the Location List and simply delete the name of the cemetery and the contents of the field will be as you wish. Doing this earlier may cause a problem if you have missed identifying some of the deceased. I think with the first part using the Event Clipboard would reduce the operation to a mininum of clicks, but you would need to alter the date for each individual, and would not work if you have attached to the Event different Sources, although you make no mention of these. Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed Blogger RSS feed into your Website http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Question about mass cleanup of location
I have just discovered Ltools (http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm) and it has a task to enable you at add an event to a tagged individual. You have to register the product to get this task. Hope that helps Roger -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Ron Ferguson Sent: Saturday, 31 October 2009 1:26 p.m. To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Question about mass cleanup of location Brenda J. Van Dyke wrote: I am in the process of a huge cleanup of my location database as I never used the Geo location database in the past and want to use it now. Although the cleanup is time consuming, it�s coming along nicely. I have arrived at a huge job and I�m wondering if someone can help me make it easier. In the past, I listed cemeteries as a location, such as: Maplewood Cemetery, New Lexington, Perry Co., OH. In my cleanup, I am creating an Event called Cemetery, listing the name of the cemetery in the Description field, and then listing the city, county, state, country in the Location field. I then revise the Buried location field to list just the city, county, state, country. My problem is that I probably have 70+ relatives buried in Maplewood Cemetery and don�t want to go through each one individually adding the Event, and then revising the Buried field to list the city, county, state, country. I�ve never used tagging and looked at it as a possibility, but wasn�t sure where to begin. I have MS Access 2007 and opened a copy of the database with it hoping I could figure out an easy fix there, but to no avail. I�ve been fighting a migraine headache today, so am probably missing something easy.? Can anyone help me make this easy? Thanks in advance. Brenda Van Dyke b...@columbus.rr.com Brenda, I suggest that you leave the change in the burial field until you have finished, by which time you can go to the Location List and simply delete the name of the cemetery and the contents of the field will be as you wish. Doing this earlier may cause a problem if you have missed identifying some of the deceased. I think with the first part using the Event Clipboard would reduce the operation to a mininum of clicks, but you would need to alter the date for each individual, and would not work if you have attached to the Event different Sources, although you make no mention of these. Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed Blogger RSS feed into your Website http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.39/2468 - Release Date: 10/30/09 15:18:00 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
