Re: [LegacyUG] Report Sizing

2009-09-10 Thread michael barberi
Thank Kathy for this education.  I will try your suggestion.

Mike Barberi

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From: Kathy Shiell-Stokes 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 6:59:43 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Report Sizing

 Michael:
In most cases most printers use a standard size of paper in which case
you would ordinarily use a printer driver that matches the printer hooked
up to your computer HOWEVER...plotters are somewhat specialised in their
paper sizes using non standard paper sizes(Standard paper sizes would
be letter, legal or even 11x17...Much harder to find a printer that
prints on that size paper but still can be done. Plotters often use 36 in
wide sheets or other variants.if you downloaded a plotter driver and
played with it a bit you would find a whole gamut of strange and
wonderful paper sizes that you could use to"fool" your computer
into thinking  that that's the printer you were planning on using.
The idea is to give you a sense of the size of the chartand that's
when you can use legacy to expand and decrease the print sizes etc. to
get it to look exactly the way you want it to...If you actually tried to
USE that printer driver to print you would get an error message since you
don't have a plotter hooked up to your computer. What you want is the
print preview feature. Computers are basically stupid...if you tell them
you have a printer hooked up to your computer they will believe
you...
To do all this, you need to:
download a plotter driver
install it...and make it your default printer in Windows control
panel
use Legacy to format the chart and make any adjustments to font, etc
while having the plotter print driver selected as your default printer.
save the chartand then go back to the printer driver that you
ordinarily use. The plotter driver is only for showAt 03:55 PM
09/09/2009, you wrote:

Kathy:
>
>>Thank you for this suggestion.  I am not schooled on computers, so
>please be patient with me.  What does the printer driver have to do
>with the printer selection.   I thought the computer
>recognizes, as a default, my current printer.  Do I go into my
>control panel and add a printer?  Is there something I should do in
>Legacy?
>
>>Mike Barberi
>
>>In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas.
>
>>In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love.
>
>>St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430)
>
>
>
>From: Kathy Shiell-Stokes
>
>To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2009 10:17:59 PM
>Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Report Sizing
>
>>Michael:
>>I would suggest that you contact the outlet you have selected to do the
>printing and find out from them what printer drivers they use(assuming
>that they are using a plotter type printer)
>>Once you know which printer/plotter they are using, download the driver
>and then, using that driver, format your chart according to the paper
>sizes available for that printer/plotter. That should give you a pretty
>exact chart size and make the chart a dream for them to print.
>>Kathy
>>At 09:21 PM 08/09/2009, you wrote:
>>> Thank you Jenny.  I did realize that the size at the bottom of
>the screen was the rectangle created by the pages.  I just don't
>know how to change this size.  Where do you choose the size of paper
>to print on?
>>> 
>>> Mike Barberi
>>> 
>>> In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem
>caritas.
>>> In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things
>love.
>>> St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430)
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Report Sizing

2009-09-09 Thread Kathy Shiell-Stokes

Michael:
In most cases most printers use a standard size of paper in which 
case you would ordinarily use a printer driver that matches the 
printer hooked up to your computer HOWEVER...plotters are somewhat 
specialised in their paper sizes using non standard paper 
sizes(Standard paper sizes would be letter, legal or even 
11x17...Much harder to find a printer that prints on that size paper 
but still can be done. Plotters often use 36 in wide sheets or other 
variants.if you downloaded a plotter driver and played with it a 
bit you would find a whole gamut of strange and wonderful paper sizes 
that you could use to"fool" your computer into thinking  that that's 
the printer you were planning on using. The idea is to give you a 
sense of the size of the chartand that's when you can use legacy 
to expand and decrease the print sizes etc. to get it to look exactly 
the way you want it to...If you actually tried to USE that printer 
driver to print you would get an error message since you don't have a 
plotter hooked up to your computer. What you want is the print 
preview feature. Computers are basically stupid...if you tell them 
you have a printer hooked up to your computer they will believe you...

To do all this, you need to:
download a plotter driver
install it...and make it your default printer in Windows control panel
use Legacy to format the chart and make any adjustments to font, etc 
while having the plotter print driver selected as your default 
printer. save the chartand then go back to the printer driver 
that you ordinarily use. The plotter driver is only for showAt 
03:55 PM 09/09/2009, you wrote:

Kathy:

Thank you for this suggestion.  I am not schooled on computers, so 
please be patient with me.  What does the printer driver have to do 
with the printer selection.   I thought the computer recognizes, as 
a default, my current printer.  Do I go into my control panel and 
add a printer?  Is there something I should do in Legacy?


Mike Barberi

In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas.
In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love.
St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430)



From: Kathy Shiell-Stokes 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2009 10:17:59 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Report Sizing

Michael:
I would suggest that you contact the outlet you have selected to do 
the printing and find out from them what printer drivers they 
use(assuming that they are using a plotter type printer)
Once you know which printer/plotter they are using, download the 
driver and then, using that driver, format your chart according to 
the paper sizes available for that printer/plotter. That should give 
you a pretty exact chart size and make the chart a dream for them to print.

Kathy
At 09:21 PM 08/09/2009, you wrote:
> Thank you Jenny.  I did realize that the size at the bottom of 
the screen was the rectangle created by the pages.  I just don't 
know how to change this size.  Where do you choose the size of 
paper to print on?

>
> Mike Barberi
>
> In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas.
> In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love.
> St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430)
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Report Sizing

2009-09-09 Thread ronald ferguson

Mike,
 
That is correct. As has previously mentioned you need to install printer 
drivers on your PC which will allow the size you wish to print. I know one 
previous post suggested asking your printer what printer they use and getting 
that.
 
I chose to install a CAD driver on the basis that that was bound to be big 
enough - and it is. It's called WinLine Raster Plotter (HPRTL/GL2), although I 
don't expect the exact model makes much diffence.
 
Once the driver is installed you have the option to select that driver to 
govern the size of your print.



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> Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 15:05:33 -0700
> From: michaelbarb...@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Report Sizing
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>
>
>
> Ron:
> The circle brings me to a menu. If I choose print set up, it does not give me 
> the ability to choose a chart size or the size of the paper I want the chart 
> to be printed on. It only lists various sizes of paper, but not anything 
> large. Perhaps, I don't understand your recommendation.
> Mike
>
> In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas.
> In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love.
> St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430)
>
>
> 
> From: ronald ferguson
> To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2009 6:57:16 PM
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Report Sizing
>
>
>
> Mike,
>
> Click the circle with the tree at the top left corner.
>
>
>
> Ron Ferguson
>
> _
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> New Tutorial: Embed a Bogger RSS feed on your webpage
>
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> For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
> _
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>> Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 18:21:12 -0700
>> From: michaelbarb...@yahoo.com
>>
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Report Sizing
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you Jenny. I did realize that the size at the bottom of the screen was 
>> the rectangle created by the pages. I just don't know how to change this 
>> size. Where do you choose the size of paper to print on?
>>
>> Mike Barberi
>>
>> In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas.
>> In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love.
>> St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430)
>>
>>
>> 
>> From: Jenny M Benson
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2009
> 12:37:50 PM
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Report Sizing
>>
>>
>> michael barberi wrote
>>> I want to download an hour-glass chart to a flash drive so that a print 
>>> shop can make a large copy of it. The print shop prefers the chart in a PDF 
>>> format, but will accept JPEG. When Legacy creates this chart, the size is 
>>> shown at the bottom of the screen (length and width in inches or cm/mm). My 
>>> hour-glass chart is very large because of the number of generations (32 
>>> pages on 8x11 pages). I can use the sizing icon to increase and decrease 
>>> the size of this chart for "viewing purposes only". However, the size at 
>>> the bottom of the screen always stays the same thing. I don't know how to 
>>> "set" the size I want, "save" the size I want, and then "download it".
>>
>> The size that is shown at the bottom of the screen is the size of the 
>> "rectangle" created by the pages. If your 32 pages are laid out landscape 
>> and your chart is, say, 4
> pages wide and 8 pages deep then the size
>> shown will be 44" x 64".
>>
>> If you are going to have your chart printed on one sheet of much larger 
>> paper, I think you just need to set up Legacy Charting for the size of paper 
>> you will be using.
>> -- Jenny M Benson
>>
> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Report Sizing

2009-09-09 Thread michael barberi
Ron:
The circle brings me to a menu.  If I choose print set up, it does not give me 
the ability to choose a chart size or the size of the paper I want the chart to 
be printed on.  It only lists various sizes of paper, but not anything large.  
Perhaps, I don't understand your recommendation.
Mike

 In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas. 
In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love. 
St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430)





From: ronald ferguson 
To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2009 6:57:16 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Report Sizing


Mike,

Click the circle with the tree at the top left corner.



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> Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 18:21:12 -0700
> From: michaelbarb...@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Report Sizing
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>
>
>
> Thank you Jenny. I did realize that the size at the bottom of the screen was 
> the rectangle created by the pages. I just don't know how to change this 
> size. Where do you choose the size of paper to print on?
>
> Mike Barberi
>
> In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas.
> In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love.
> St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430)
>
>
> 
> From: Jenny M Benson
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
> Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2009 12:37:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Report Sizing
>
>
> michael barberi wrote
>> I want to download an hour-glass chart to a flash drive so that a print shop 
>> can make a large copy of it. The print shop prefers the chart in a PDF 
>> format, but will accept JPEG. When Legacy creates this chart, the size is 
>> shown at the bottom of the screen (length and width in inches or cm/mm). My 
>> hour-glass chart is very large because of the number of generations (32 
>> pages on 8x11 pages). I can use the sizing icon to increase and decrease the 
>> size of this chart for "viewing purposes only". However, the size at the 
>> bottom of the screen always stays the same thing. I don't know how to "set" 
>> the size I want, "save" the size I want, and then "download it".
>
> The size that is shown at the bottom of the screen is the size of the 
> "rectangle" created by the pages. If your 32 pages are laid out landscape and 
> your chart is, say, 4 pages wide and 8 pages deep then the size
> shown will be 44" x 64".
>
> If you are going to have your chart printed on one sheet of much larger 
> paper, I think you just need to set up Legacy Charting for the size of paper 
> you will be using.
> -- Jenny M Benson
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Report Sizing

2009-09-09 Thread michael barberi
Kathy:

Thank you for this suggestion.  I am not schooled on computers, so please be 
patient with me.  What does the printer driver have to do with the printer 
selection.   I thought the computer recognizes, as a default, my current 
printer.  Do I go into my control panel and add a printer?  Is there something 
I should do in Legacy?

Mike Barberi

In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas. 
In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love. 
St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430)





From: Kathy Shiell-Stokes 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2009 10:17:59 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Report Sizing

Michael:
I would suggest that you contact the outlet you have selected to do the 
printing and find out from them what printer drivers they use(assuming that 
they are using a plotter type printer)
Once you know which printer/plotter they are using, download the driver and 
then, using that driver, format your chart according to the paper sizes 
available for that printer/plotter. That should give you a pretty exact chart 
size and make the chart a dream for them to print.
Kathy
At 09:21 PM 08/09/2009, you wrote:
> Thank you Jenny.  I did realize that the size at the bottom of the screen was 
> the rectangle created by the pages.  I just don't know how to change this 
> size.  Where do you choose the size of paper to print on?
> 
> Mike Barberi
> 
> In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas.
> In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love.
> St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430)
> 
> 




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Re: [LegacyUG] Report Sizing

2009-09-08 Thread Kathy Shiell-Stokes

Michael:
I would suggest that you contact the outlet you have selected to do 
the printing and find out from them what printer drivers they 
use(assuming that they are using a plotter type printer)
Once you know which printer/plotter they are using, download the 
driver and then, using that driver, format your chart according to 
the paper sizes available for that printer/plotter. That should give 
you a pretty exact chart size and make the chart a dream for them to print.

Kathy
At 09:21 PM 08/09/2009, you wrote:
Thank you Jenny.  I did realize that the size at the bottom of the 
screen was the rectangle created by the pages.  I just don't know 
how to change this size.  Where do you choose the size of paper to print on?


Mike Barberi

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In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love.
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RE: [LegacyUG] Report Sizing

2009-09-08 Thread ronald ferguson

Mike,
 
Click the circle with the tree at the top left corner.



Ron Ferguson

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> Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 18:21:12 -0700
> From: michaelbarb...@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Report Sizing
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>
>
>
> Thank you Jenny. I did realize that the size at the bottom of the screen was 
> the rectangle created by the pages. I just don't know how to change this 
> size. Where do you choose the size of paper to print on?
>
> Mike Barberi
>
> In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas.
> In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love.
> St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430)
>
>
> 
> From: Jenny M Benson
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
> Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2009 12:37:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Report Sizing
>
>
> michael barberi wrote
>> I want to download an hour-glass chart to a flash drive so that a print shop 
>> can make a large copy of it. The print shop prefers the chart in a PDF 
>> format, but will accept JPEG. When Legacy creates this chart, the size is 
>> shown at the bottom of the screen (length and width in inches or cm/mm). My 
>> hour-glass chart is very large because of the number of generations (32 
>> pages on 8x11 pages). I can use the sizing icon to increase and decrease the 
>> size of this chart for "viewing purposes only". However, the size at the 
>> bottom of the screen always stays the same thing. I don't know how to "set" 
>> the size I want, "save" the size I want, and then "download it".
>
> The size that is shown at the bottom of the screen is the size of the 
> "rectangle" created by the pages. If your 32 pages are laid out landscape and 
> your chart is, say, 4 pages wide and 8 pages deep then the size
> shown will be 44" x 64".
>
> If you are going to have your chart printed on one sheet of much larger 
> paper, I think you just need to set up Legacy Charting for the size of paper 
> you will be using.
> -- Jenny M Benson
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Report Sizing

2009-09-08 Thread michael barberi
Thank you Jenny.  I did realize that the size at the bottom of the screen was 
the rectangle created by the pages.  I just don't know how to change this size. 
 Where do you choose the size of paper to print on?

Mike Barberi

 In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas. 
In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love. 
St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430)





From: Jenny M Benson 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2009 12:37:50 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Report Sizing

michael barberi wrote
> I want to download an hour-glass chart to a flash drive so that a print shop 
> can make a large copy of it.  The print shop prefers the chart in a PDF 
> format, but will accept JPEG.   When Legacy creates this chart, the size is 
> shown at the bottom of the screen (length and width in inches or cm/mm).  My 
> hour-glass chart is very large because of the number of generations (32 pages 
> on 8x11 pages).  I can use the sizing icon to increase and decrease the size 
> of this chart for "viewing purposes only".  However, the size at the bottom 
> of the screen always stays the same thing.  I don't know how to "set" the 
> size I want, "save" the size I want, and then "download it". 

The size that is shown at the bottom of the screen is the size of the 
"rectangle" created by the pages.  If your 32 pages are laid out landscape and 
your chart is, say, 4 pages wide and 8 pages deep then the size shown will be 
44" x 64".

If you are going to have your chart printed on one sheet of much larger paper, 
I think you just need to set up Legacy Charting for the size of paper you will 
be using.
-- Jenny M Benson



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Re: [LegacyUG] Report Sizing

2009-09-08 Thread Jenny M Benson

michael barberi wrote
I want to download an hour-glass chart to a flash drive so that a print 
shop can make a large copy of it.  The print shop prefers the chart in 
a PDF format, but will accept JPEG.   When Legacy creates this chart, 
the size is shown at the bottom of the screen (length and width in 
inches or cm/mm).  My hour-glass chart is very large because of the 
number of generations (32 pages on 8x11 pages).  I can use the sizing 
icon to increase and decrease the size of this chart for "viewing 
purposes only".  However, the size at the bottom of the screen always 
stays the same thing.  I don't know how to "set" the size I want, 
"save" the size I want, and then "download it". 


The size that is shown at the bottom of the screen is the size of the 
"rectangle" created by the pages.  If your 32 pages are laid out 
landscape and your chart is, say, 4 pages wide and 8 pages deep then the 
size shown will be 44" x 64".


If you are going to have your chart printed on one sheet of much larger 
paper, I think you just need to set up Legacy Charting for the size of 
paper you will be using.

--
Jenny M Benson



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[LegacyUG] Report Sizing

2009-09-08 Thread michael barberi
I want to download an hour-glass chart to a flash drive so that a print shop 
can make a large copy of it.  The print shop prefers the chart in a PDF format, 
but will accept JPEG.   When Legacy creates this chart, the size is shown at 
the bottom of the screen (length and width in inches or cm/mm).  My hour-glass 
chart is very large because of the number of generations (32 pages on 8x11 
pages).  I can use the sizing icon to increase and decrease the size of this 
chart for "viewing purposes only".  However, the size at the bottom of the 
screen always stays the same thing.  I don't know how to "set" the size I want, 
"save" the size I want, and then "download it".  

Any assistance is appreciated.

Mike Barberi

 In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas. 
In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love. 
St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430)



  



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