[LegacyUG] new FamilySearch integration?

2008-06-04 Thread Pat Walker
I thought maybe this new 7.0 would incorporate some type of integration 
with the LDS new FamilySearch database  That does not seem to be the 
case--they still have only the old TempleReady feature.


I guess the only new features I see (unless I have the wrong version 
downloaded) are (from the menu):



Map My Family (I CANNOT USE THIS ANYWAY BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE AND DON'T 
WANT TO HAVE IE 7 ON MY COMPUTER) VERY, VERY DISAPPOINTED.


Legacy Charting (I already had access to this via the free download--all 
I get now is a link to it from within Legacy)


Source Writer (not in the Menu)

So did I pay for an upgrade to Deluxe just for the Source Writer

I am new to this group, but I am sure someone will set me straight!

I guess a lot of rumors I had heard are not true.





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RE: [LegacyUG] new FamilySearch integration?

2008-06-04 Thread Kate Redford
Pat,

LDS nFS (new Family Search) is not available to every researcher at this
time.  It is still in beta testing and being released as Temple Districts go
on-line for the new software system.

It is my understanding that when all of the Temples are on line (probably,
end of 2008, then Legacy vs.7 will sync with nFS.

This is the year of learning patience with so many kinds of software
upgrading.  Not my strong virtue.  Hope this helps.

Kate Smith Redford
Salem, Oregon, USA


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[Kate] 
I thought maybe this new 7.0 would incorporate some type of integration 
with the LDS new FamilySearch database  That does not seem to be the 
case--they still have only the old TempleReady feature.
[Kate] 
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Re: [LegacyUG] new FamilySearch integration?

2008-06-05 Thread GeoSci
Pat,
  The new FamilySearch Database will be addressed as soon as it is
public right now it is restricted and the search is not totally
set-up.  You may actually find bits in Legacy 7.0 that do not work yet
- they are setting it up.

Having IE7 just sit there (I must for several programs I use) will
really do no harm.  I never use it - preferring Firefox.  The mapping
program (Virtual Earth) requires IE7.  It is worth it!

If you begin to enter a source it will ask you if you want to use the
new source writer.  The ability to convert old sources to source
writer is not yet available.
Keith

On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 10:01 AM, Pat Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I thought maybe this new 7.0 would incorporate some type of integration with
> the LDS new FamilySearch database  That does not seem to be the
> case--they still have only the old TempleReady feature.
>
> I guess the only new features I see (unless I have the wrong version
> downloaded) are (from the menu):
>
>
> Map My Family (I CANNOT USE THIS ANYWAY BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE AND DON'T WANT
> TO HAVE IE 7 ON MY COMPUTER) VERY, VERY DISAPPOINTED.
>
> Legacy Charting (I already had access to this via the free download--all I
> get now is a link to it from within Legacy)
>
> Source Writer (not in the Menu)
>
> So did I pay for an upgrade to Deluxe just for the Source Writer
>
> I am new to this group, but I am sure someone will set me straight!
>
> I guess a lot of rumors I had heard are not true.
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] new FamilySearch integration?

2008-06-05 Thread Randolph Clark
I don't think that having IE7 on your computer creates problems. On my
machine it simply lurks and rarely comes out of hiding.

On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 10:01 AM, Pat Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I thought maybe this new 7.0 would incorporate some type of integration
> with the LDS new FamilySearch database  That does not seem to be the
> case--they still have only the old TempleReady feature.
>
> I guess the only new features I see (unless I have the wrong version
> downloaded) are (from the menu):
>
>
> Map My Family (I CANNOT USE THIS ANYWAY BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE AND DON'T WANT
> TO HAVE IE 7 ON MY COMPUTER) VERY, VERY DISAPPOINTED.
>
> Legacy Charting (I already had access to this via the free download--all I
> get now is a link to it from within Legacy)
>
> Source Writer (not in the Menu)
>
> So did I pay for an upgrade to Deluxe just for the Source Writer
>
> I am new to this group, but I am sure someone will set me straight!
>
> I guess a lot of rumors I had heard are not true.
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>




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Re: [LegacyUG] new FamilySearch integration?

2008-06-05 Thread Mike Fry

Pat Walker wrote:
I thought maybe this new 7.0 would incorporate some type of integration 
with the LDS new FamilySearch database  That does not seem to be the 
case--they still have only the old TempleReady feature.


The "New" FamilySearch is *not* ready for widespread public use. How 
then, are Millennia supposed to provide support for something that is 
still in development?


Map My Family (I CANNOT USE THIS ANYWAY BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE AND DON'T 
WANT TO HAVE IE 7 ON MY COMPUTER) VERY, VERY DISAPPOINTED.


Me too :-( I don't want to have to change my operating system until I'm 
finally forced to. It ain't broke, so why upgrade?!


Legacy Charting (I already had access to this via the free download--all 
I get now is a link to it from within Legacy)


Your "free" version will become unusable after June 15th.


Source Writer (not in the Menu)

So did I pay for an upgrade to Deluxe just for the Source Writer


Not really. If you didn't upgrade to Deluxe, not only would you free 
Charting program become unusable, the version built-in to version 7 
would limit in many ways e.g. only 4 generations.


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Regards,
Mike Fry
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Re: [LegacyUG] new FamilySearch integration?

2008-06-05 Thread JLB
Well, lots of people will probably jump in for this one.  Hope you have 
a large mailbox.


I am, myself, not big on change, so I could probably out-complain you 
all day long.  However, it's not as hopeless as you may think.


The only thing I actually wanted was the ability to edit people directly 
from the Master Lists and I got it.  Check it out.  Very cool.


I would have also been ever-so-pleased if Legacy had murdered the 
Research Guidance splash screen but I asked too late.  That was the big 
addition to Version 6 and I haven't been able to use it yet just for 
that one huge flaw in it.


There are no words for how much I hate Internet Explorer.  But Legacy 
uses it, don't ask me why, for the Legacy Home page, Research Guidance, 
and some of the searches I believe.  So if you want an IE-free database 
Legacy is not it, and has been not it for a long time.  I have IE7 on my 
computer but I never use it.  You couldn't pay me, but when it gets used 
in Legacy I have to grin and bear it.  It's not the end of the world, 
almost, but not the end.


I believe the Family Search integration is on the way but that's up to 
FamilySearch.  They service the entire planet so it takes time.


Legacy Charting will not be free anymore after June 15th.  Maybe you can 
still use your free version already installed?  But no updates probably.


The Source Writer is no small thing.  I tried converting a couple of 
sources this morning and it's going to be quite the project, not one I'm 
inclined toward right now.  In the meantime it will put new sources in 
much better order than I was doing by myself, if I can ever figure out 
what all the boxes mean.  Maybe I'll use it, maybe not.


You hit the biggies with your list, but there are several 
lesser-advertised new features.  If you look around you may see them.  
There's a list on the Legacy site, as well as in the Help Index.  Also, 
in the latest posting at Legacy News.  Such as Interview Reports, and 
the New Relationship calculator.


Legacy builds upgrades on what they think is important to add.  
Sometimes it's up your alley and sometimes it isn't.   I didn't want 
much so I'm not disappointed.  I would have paid the $21.95 just to be 
able to edit from the Master Lists. 
--

JL
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/jlog.html


Pat Walker wrote:
I thought maybe this new 7.0 would incorporate some type of 
integration with the LDS new FamilySearch database  That does not 
seem to be the case--they still have only the old TempleReady feature.


I guess the only new features I see (unless I have the wrong version 
downloaded) are (from the menu):



Map My Family (I CANNOT USE THIS ANYWAY BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE AND DON'T 
WANT TO HAVE IE 7 ON MY COMPUTER) VERY, VERY DISAPPOINTED.


Legacy Charting (I already had access to this via the free 
download--all I get now is a link to it from within Legacy)


Source Writer (not in the Menu)

So did I pay for an upgrade to Deluxe just for the Source Writer

I am new to this group, but I am sure someone will set me straight!

I guess a lot of rumors I had heard are not true.





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Re: [LegacyUG] new FamilySearch integration?

2008-06-05 Thread Rhonda Lucas
Personally I am still waiting for my pre-purchased email to get me
into it to play, but I found this link in another post that actually
lists all the new features, plus re-states all the old features of the
deluxe version.  Hope this helps.

Oh and somewhere in one of these posts Geoff mentions that the free
pre-release of Legacy Charting will expire on 15th June. :(  Hope I'm
into it before then.

http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/WhatsNew7.asp

On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 12:01 AM, Pat Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I thought maybe this new 7.0 would incorporate some type of integration with
> the LDS new FamilySearch database  That does not seem to be the
> case--they still have only the old TempleReady feature.
>
> I guess the only new features I see (unless I have the wrong version
> downloaded) are (from the menu):
>
>
> Map My Family (I CANNOT USE THIS ANYWAY BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE AND DON'T WANT
> TO HAVE IE 7 ON MY COMPUTER) VERY, VERY DISAPPOINTED.
>
> Legacy Charting (I already had access to this via the free download--all I
> get now is a link to it from within Legacy)
>
> Source Writer (not in the Menu)
>
> So did I pay for an upgrade to Deluxe just for the Source Writer
>
> I am new to this group, but I am sure someone will set me straight!
>
> I guess a lot of rumors I had heard are not true.



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RE: [LegacyUG] new FamilySearch integration?

2008-06-06 Thread ronald ferguson

Gee, JL, I did not think that I'd live long enough to see the day ;-D

One point which you may have overlooked regarding Resource Guidance a function 
which I do not use either.

I think that with something like this we need to remember that Legacy is used 
by a large population with varying levels of skills and genealogical 
experience. I can well imagine that a beginner would find it extremely helpful 
and it may well be, for all I know, that they constitute the "silent majority".


Ron Ferguson

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> Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 18:25:46 -0700
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] new FamilySearch integration?
>
> Well, lots of people will probably jump in for this one. Hope you have
> a large mailbox.
>
> I am, myself, not big on change, so I could probably out-complain you
> all day long. However, it's not as hopeless as you may think.
>
> The only thing I actually wanted was the ability to edit people directly
> from the Master Lists and I got it. Check it out. Very cool.
>
> I would have also been ever-so-pleased if Legacy had murdered the
> Research Guidance splash screen but I asked too late. That was the big
> addition to Version 6 and I haven't been able to use it yet just for
> that one huge flaw in it.
>
> There are no words for how much I hate Internet Explorer. But Legacy
> uses it, don't ask me why, for the Legacy Home page, Research Guidance,
> and some of the searches I believe. So if you want an IE-free database
> Legacy is not it, and has been not it for a long time. I have IE7 on my
> computer but I never use it. You couldn't pay me, but when it gets used
> in Legacy I have to grin and bear it. It's not the end of the world,
> almost, but not the end.
>
> I believe the Family Search integration is on the way but that's up to
> FamilySearch. They service the entire planet so it takes time.
>
> Legacy Charting will not be free anymore after June 15th. Maybe you can
> still use your free version already installed? But no updates probably.
>
> The Source Writer is no small thing. I tried converting a couple of
> sources this morning and it's going to be quite the project, not one I'm
> inclined toward right now. In the meantime it will put new sources in
> much better order than I was doing by myself, if I can ever figure out
> what all the boxes mean. Maybe I'll use it, maybe not.
>
> You hit the biggies with your list, but there are several
> lesser-advertised new features. If you look around you may see them.
> There's a list on the Legacy site, as well as in the Help Index. Also,
> in the latest posting at Legacy News. Such as Interview Reports, and
> the New Relationship calculator.
>
> Legacy builds upgrades on what they think is important to add.
> Sometimes it's up your alley and sometimes it isn't. I didn't want
> much so I'm not disappointed. I would have paid the $21.95 just to be
> able to edit from the Master Lists.
> --
> JL
> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
> http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/jlog.html
>
>
> Pat Walker wrote:
>> I thought maybe this new 7.0 would incorporate some type of
>> integration with the LDS new FamilySearch database That does not
>> seem to be the case--they still have only the old TempleReady feature.
>>
>> I guess the only new features I see (unless I have the wrong version
>> downloaded) are (from the menu):
>>
>>
>> Map My Family (I CANNOT USE THIS ANYWAY BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE AND DON'T
>> WANT TO HAVE IE 7 ON MY COMPUTER) VERY, VERY DISAPPOINTED.
>>
>> Legacy Charting (I already had access to this via the free
>> download--all I get now is a link to it from within Legacy)
>>
>> Source Writer (not in the Menu)
>>
>> So did I pay for an upgrade to Deluxe just for the Source Writer
>>
>> I am new to this group, but I am sure someone will set me straight!
>>
>> I guess a lot of rumors I had heard are not true.
>>

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Re: [LegacyUG] new FamilySearch integration?

2008-06-06 Thread JLB
Live long enough to see what? 

I would love to be able to use Research Guidance.  I'm not so 
over-the-top with my experience, and god knows they put enough effort 
into it.  But it's too much of a closed box for ... um ... research.  If 
they would kill the splash screen and go directly to the main tabs 
instead it would be possible to put it in Split Screen mode and have 
some decent navigation.  I'm dying of claustrophobia in there.


Listen, if I had my way about it, they'd build the whole program around 
Firefox and use Google maps and Google Earth instead .. they could even 
integrate Zotero into it ... dream on ... but they've probably dug 
themselves such a deep hole with Microsoft bits we'd be waiting 10 years 
for them to dig themselves out.   Anybody got 10 years to wait for the 
next upgrade?

--
JL
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/jlog.html

ronald ferguson wrote:

Gee, JL, I did not think that I'd live long enough to see the day ;-D

One point which you may have overlooked regarding Resource Guidance a function 
which I do not use either.

I think that with something like this we need to remember that Legacy is used by a large 
population with varying levels of skills and genealogical experience. I can well imagine 
that a beginner would find it extremely helpful and it may well be, for all I know, that 
they constitute the "silent majority".


Ron Ferguson

_

New Blog: Free Contacts Database for use with Open Office
http://www.fergys.co.uk
View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
_



  

Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 18:25:46 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] new FamilySearch integration?

Well, lots of people will probably jump in for this one. Hope you have
a large mailbox.

I am, myself, not big on change, so I could probably out-complain you
all day long. However, it's not as hopeless as you may think.

The only thing I actually wanted was the ability to edit people directly
from the Master Lists and I got it. Check it out. Very cool.

I would have also been ever-so-pleased if Legacy had murdered the
Research Guidance splash screen but I asked too late. That was the big
addition to Version 6 and I haven't been able to use it yet just for
that one huge flaw in it.

There are no words for how much I hate Internet Explorer. But Legacy
uses it, don't ask me why, for the Legacy Home page, Research Guidance,
and some of the searches I believe. So if you want an IE-free database
Legacy is not it, and has been not it for a long time. I have IE7 on my
computer but I never use it. You couldn't pay me, but when it gets used
in Legacy I have to grin and bear it. It's not the end of the world,
almost, but not the end.

I believe the Family Search integration is on the way but that's up to
FamilySearch. They service the entire planet so it takes time.

Legacy Charting will not be free anymore after June 15th. Maybe you can
still use your free version already installed? But no updates probably.

The Source Writer is no small thing. I tried converting a couple of
sources this morning and it's going to be quite the project, not one I'm
inclined toward right now. In the meantime it will put new sources in
much better order than I was doing by myself, if I can ever figure out
what all the boxes mean. Maybe I'll use it, maybe not.

You hit the biggies with your list, but there are several
lesser-advertised new features. If you look around you may see them.
There's a list on the Legacy site, as well as in the Help Index. Also,
in the latest posting at Legacy News. Such as Interview Reports, and
the New Relationship calculator.

Legacy builds upgrades on what they think is important to add.
Sometimes it's up your alley and sometimes it isn't. I didn't want
much so I'm not disappointed. I would have paid the $21.95 just to be
able to edit from the Master Lists.
--
JL
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/jlog.html


Pat Walker wrote:


I thought maybe this new 7.0 would incorporate some type of
integration with the LDS new FamilySearch database That does not
seem to be the case--they still have only the old TempleReady feature.

I guess the only new features I see (unless I have the wrong version
downloaded) are (from the menu):


Map My Family (I CANNOT USE THIS ANYWAY BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE AND DON'T
WANT TO HAVE IE 7 ON MY COMPUTER) VERY, VERY DISAPPOINTED.

Legacy Charting (I already had access to this via the free
download--all I get now is a link to it from within Legacy)

Source Writer (not in t

Re: [LegacyUG] new FamilySearch integration?

2008-06-07 Thread Jackie King

Gary -

Actually not all of the issues have been corrected. IE7 was never fully 
tested for backward compatability with numerous programs and there 
remain issues with that. There are also many web pages that while you 
think you are getting full use of the web page you aren't because of 
IE7's stance toward activex and signed certificates.


Count me as another one who cannot use IE7 because of proprietary 
programs that it will not work with and which the companies involved in 
using the programs have so much invested they cannot afford to change.


In fact, in browsing the web, there are numerous state web pages that 
are set up for interactivity with users and business that will NOT work 
with IE7 and users are so advised. I know of a number of universities 
that will not put their faculty, staff or research facilities on IE7.


My understanding is that Microsoft has now admitted its mistake in not 
fully testing IE7 and IE8 is to be fully tested before release.


After past practices (and I used to work for a company that was a 
Microsoft testing ground), I'll believe it when I see it.


It's not animosity on the parts of many of us - it's critical necessity 
to avoid IE7 at all costs.


Jackie

Gary Templeman wrote:


- Original Message - From: "Pat Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 7:01 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] new FamilySearch integration?


I thought maybe this new 7.0 would incorporate some type of 
integration with the LDS new FamilySearch database  That does not 
seem to be the case--they still have only the old TempleReady feature.


That feature is still in development. The nFS is not in full rollout 
and the LDS Church is still working with various third party vendors 
in beta-testing the integration.




I guess the only new features I see (unless I have the wrong version 
downloaded) are (from the menu):



Map My Family (I CANNOT USE THIS ANYWAY BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE AND 
DON'T WANT TO HAVE IE 7 ON MY COMPUTER) VERY, VERY DISAPPOINTED.


Stated previously on this list before you joined, the need for IE7 is 
a Microsoft requirement for using their Virtual Earth. Legacy had 
little choice in the matter and that is the only feature affected. And 
unless you switch to a Mac or Linux, the next computer you buy will 
almost certainly have IE7 (or later) whether you want it or not. AFAIK 
there is no choice with Vista. I really don't get the continued 
animosity towards IE7. There were definitely some problems when it was 
first released over 18 months ago, but those have been corrected. It 
does have better security, and with the exception of the tabbed 
browsing feature and the need for a minor registry tweak to put the 
menu bar back on top where it belongs, it acts mostly like IE6




Legacy Charting (I already had access to this via the free 
download--all I get now is a link to it from within Legacy)


Your access is set to expire and your free version was clearly stated 
to be part of the testing process.




Source Writer (not in the Menu)

So did I pay for an upgrade to Deluxe just for the Source Writer


Did you read the list at http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/WhatsNew7.asp ?

Regards,

Gary




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Re: [LegacyUG] new FamilySearch integration?

2008-06-07 Thread Pat Walker
I don't think IE 6 (which is required for my home job) can be installed 
at the same time as IE 7.  I wish it were possible (or maybe I don't)


Randolph Clark wrote:
I don't think that having IE7 on your computer creates problems. On my 
machine it simply lurks and rarely comes out of hiding.


On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 10:01 AM, Pat Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:


I thought maybe this new 7.0 would incorporate some type of
integration with the LDS new FamilySearch database  That does
not seem to be the case--they still have only the old TempleReady
feature.

I guess the only new features I see (unless I have the wrong
version downloaded) are (from the menu):


Map My Family (I CANNOT USE THIS ANYWAY BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE AND
DON'T WANT TO HAVE IE 7 ON MY COMPUTER) VERY, VERY DISAPPOINTED.

Legacy Charting (I already had access to this via the free
download--all I get now is a link to it from within Legacy)

Source Writer (not in the Menu)

So did I pay for an upgrade to Deluxe just for the Source Writer

I am new to this group, but I am sure someone will set me straight!

I guess a lot of rumors I had heard are not true.





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Re: [LegacyUG] new FamilySearch integration?

2008-06-07 Thread Gary Templeman
You cannot have IE6 and IE7 at the same time, however I think there IS 
potentially at least one workaround for you. I am 97% sure you can dual boot 
the same version of Windows. This is a bit complex so only someone who knows 
what they are doing should attempt it.


1. Resize the existing partition on your hard driver and create another 
partition (using Partition Magic or free alternatives). Assign it a drive 
letter higher than what is currently used for any CD/DVD drives and optional 
flash drives, card readers, etc

2. Install a second copy of Windows on that partition, and update it to IE7.
3. Install a second copy of Legacy on that partition, but point it to the 
data and multimedia files on the "C" drive.


Make your current Windows installation the default, but whenever you really, 
really need to use the mapping feature or anything else that may call for 
IE7, simply reboot and choose the other Windows version. When you finish, 
reboot back to the default Windows version. Both copies of Legacy should be 
able to access the same data file, keeping everything current.


Beyond that, your other options are to either do without those *few* Legacy 
features that need IE7, or to complain to the developers of your *other* 
software, who are choosing to force you into using an obsolete browser. IE7 
is over a year and a half old now. Legacy has stayed current and it seems to 
me the other companies have had plenty of time to create their own updates 
so you would not have any conflicts.


Legacy had to make some decisions, and their code was written based on those 
decisions. It is extremely unlikely they are either able or willing to 
backtrack. So, like trying to get an umpire to change a call, continued 
complaining by a few people on the list is going nowhere.


Gary Templeman

- Original Message - 
From: "Pat Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 6:52 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] new FamilySearch integration?


I don't think IE 6 (which is required for my home job) can be installed at 
the same time as IE 7.  I wish it were possible (or maybe I don't)


Randolph Clark wrote:
I don't think that having IE7 on your computer creates problems. On my 
machine it simply lurks and rarely comes out of hiding.


On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 10:01 AM, Pat Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:


I thought maybe this new 7.0 would incorporate some type of
integration with the LDS new FamilySearch database  That does
not seem to be the case--they still have only the old TempleReady
feature.

I guess the only new features I see (unless I have the wrong
version downloaded) are (from the menu):


Map My Family (I CANNOT USE THIS ANYWAY BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE AND
DON'T WANT TO HAVE IE 7 ON MY COMPUTER) VERY, VERY DISAPPOINTED.

Legacy Charting (I already had access to this via the free
download--all I get now is a link to it from within Legacy)

Source Writer (not in the Menu)

So did I pay for an upgrade to Deluxe just for the Source Writer

I am new to this group, but I am sure someone will set me straight!

I guess a lot of rumors I had heard are not true.





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Re: [LegacyUG] new FamilySearch integration?

2008-06-08 Thread Art Seddon
Is Microsoft even doing security updates for IE6?

Art Seddon

- Original Message - 
From: "Gary Templeman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] new FamilySearch integration?


You cannot have IE6 and IE7 at the same time, however I think there IS
potentially at least one workaround for you. I am 97% sure you can dual boot
the same version of Windows. This is a bit complex so only someone who knows
what they are doing should attempt it.

1. Resize the existing partition on your hard driver and create another
partition (using Partition Magic or free alternatives). Assign it a drive
letter higher than what is currently used for any CD/DVD drives and optional
flash drives, card readers, etc
2. Install a second copy of Windows on that partition, and update it to IE7.
3. Install a second copy of Legacy on that partition, but point it to the
data and multimedia files on the "C" drive.

Make your current Windows installation the default, but whenever you really,
really need to use the mapping feature or anything else that may call for
IE7, simply reboot and choose the other Windows version. When you finish,
reboot back to the default Windows version. Both copies of Legacy should be
able to access the same data file, keeping everything current.

Beyond that, your other options are to either do without those *few* Legacy
features that need IE7, or to complain to the developers of your *other*
software, who are choosing to force you into using an obsolete browser. IE7
is over a year and a half old now. Legacy has stayed current and it seems to
me the other companies have had plenty of time to create their own updates
so you would not have any conflicts.

Legacy had to make some decisions, and their code was written based on those
decisions. It is extremely unlikely they are either able or willing to
backtrack. So, like trying to get an umpire to change a call, continued
complaining by a few people on the list is going nowhere.

Gary Templeman

- Original Message - 
From: "Pat Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 6:52 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] new FamilySearch integration?


>I don't think IE 6 (which is required for my home job) can be installed at
>the same time as IE 7.  I wish it were possible (or maybe I don't)
>





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Re: [LegacyUG] new FamilySearch integration?

2008-06-08 Thread Leon Chapman
Pat & Gary:

You might want to consider this solution as an option.

Use MS Virtual PC, v.6.0.6001, SP1 is the latest version -- It is a
free download.
You can install it and run a Virtual Machine.
 I have Vista and am using it to run Windows XP in a virtual machine window.
You will need to have a copy of an operating system to install in the
Virtual Machine (VM).

I have installed Legacy 7 in the VM under Windows XP and have
installed IE 7 in the VM.  Then Legacy 7 and IE 7 run perfectly and I
can do the mapping in the VM.
The files can be copied from your hard drive to the VM very easily.

One advantage is you do not have to reboot your machine to run the VM.
 It just opens a window and starts up or you can save the exiting
state of the VM and return to it later.

You can also use VMWare software for a VM, but tipically it will cost
for the software and moving in and out of the VM windows back to VISTA
is not as user friendly as MS Virtual PC software.

The use of VMs has become more popular since the Macs now run on an
Intel processor and people want to run an application under Windows
that is not available to them otherwise, e.g., Legacy.

We have gone to this approach in our computer lab for teaching both
Vista and XP.  We use the VM under Vista to run XP to teach classes as
needed on Windows XP.

The bottom line, you get to keep your favorite IE6 or whatever on your
machine as your workhorse, but you can use IE7 only in the VM -- this
way you have the best of both.

Chap

On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 8:21 PM, Gary Templeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You cannot have IE6 and IE7 at the same time, however I think there IS
> potentially at least one workaround for you. I am 97% sure you can dual boot
> the same version of Windows. This is a bit complex so only someone who knows
> what they are doing should attempt it.
>
> 1. Resize the existing partition on your hard driver and create another
> partition (using Partition Magic or free alternatives). Assign it a drive
> letter higher than what is currently used for any CD/DVD drives and optional
> flash drives, card readers, etc
> 2. Install a second copy of Windows on that partition, and update it to IE7.
> 3. Install a second copy of Legacy on that partition, but point it to the
> data and multimedia files on the "C" drive.
>
> Make your current Windows installation the default, but whenever you really,
> really need to use the mapping feature or anything else that may call for
> IE7, simply reboot and choose the other Windows version. When you finish,
> reboot back to the default Windows version. Both copies of Legacy should be
> able to access the same data file, keeping everything current.
>
> Beyond that, your other options are to either do without those *few* Legacy
> features that need IE7, or to complain to the developers of your *other*
> software, who are choosing to force you into using an obsolete browser. IE7
> is over a year and a half old now. Legacy has stayed current and it seems to
> me the other companies have had plenty of time to create their own updates
> so you would not have any conflicts.
>
> Legacy had to make some decisions, and their code was written based on those
> decisions. It is extremely unlikely they are either able or willing to
> backtrack. So, like trying to get an umpire to change a call, continued
> complaining by a few people on the list is going nowhere.
>
> Gary Templeman
>
> - Original Message - From: "Pat Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 6:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] new FamilySearch integration?
>
>
>> I don't think IE 6 (which is required for my home job) can be installed at
>> the same time as IE 7.  I wish it were possible (or maybe I don't)
>>
>> Randolph Clark wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't think that having IE7 on your computer creates problems. On my
>>> machine it simply lurks and rarely comes out of hiding.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 10:01 AM, Pat Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>>>
>>>I thought maybe this new 7.0 would incorporate some type of
>>>integration with the LDS new FamilySearch database  That does
>>>not seem to be the case--they still have only the old TempleReady
>>>feature.
>>>
>>>I guess the only new features I see (unless I have the wrong
>>>version downloaded) are (from the menu):
>>>
>>>
>>>Map My Family (I CANNOT USE THIS ANYWAY BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE AND
>>>DON'T WANT TO HAVE IE 7 ON MY COMPUTER) VERY, VERY DISAPPOINTED.
>>>
>>>Legacy Charting (I already had access to this via 

Re: [LegacyUG] new FamilySearch integration?

2008-06-09 Thread Gary Templeman

Leon,

I had considered that option. I know you can install XP inside of Vista 
using MS Virtual PC. What I don't know is whether you can install another 
instance of XP inside of XP. Pat apparently has an existing XP computer. 
Having two instances of XP would be simpler than dual booting, but it will 
probably require increasing the amount of RAM, as both OS's would be using 
RAM at the same time. Dual booting is harder to switch back and forth but 
avoids the RAM issue.


A VM is probably the best solution for those who buy a new computer with 
Vista but have some products that require XP or earlier, or IE6 or earlier.


Gary
- Original Message - 
From: "Leon Chapman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 8:37 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] new FamilySearch integration?



Pat & Gary:

You might want to consider this solution as an option.

Use MS Virtual PC, v.6.0.6001, SP1 is the latest version -- It is a
free download.
You can install it and run a Virtual Machine.
I have Vista and am using it to run Windows XP in a virtual machine 
window.

You will need to have a copy of an operating system to install in the
Virtual Machine (VM).

I have installed Legacy 7 in the VM under Windows XP and have
installed IE 7 in the VM.  Then Legacy 7 and IE 7 run perfectly and I
can do the mapping in the VM.
The files can be copied from your hard drive to the VM very easily.

One advantage is you do not have to reboot your machine to run the VM.
It just opens a window and starts up or you can save the exiting
state of the VM and return to it later.

You can also use VMWare software for a VM, but tipically it will cost
for the software and moving in and out of the VM windows back to VISTA
is not as user friendly as MS Virtual PC software.

The use of VMs has become more popular since the Macs now run on an
Intel processor and people want to run an application under Windows
that is not available to them otherwise, e.g., Legacy.

We have gone to this approach in our computer lab for teaching both
Vista and XP.  We use the VM under Vista to run XP to teach classes as
needed on Windows XP.

The bottom line, you get to keep your favorite IE6 or whatever on your
machine as your workhorse, but you can use IE7 only in the VM -- this
way you have the best of both.

Chap






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Re: [LegacyUG] new FamilySearch integration?

2008-06-10 Thread JD Liddil
Despite what the Legacy Manual says form M$ themselves;

System requirements for Live Search Maps
Live Search Maps in 2D mode requires Microsoft Internet Explorer 6,
Internet Explorer 7, or Mozilla Firefox 2.0.

->Virtual Earth 3D (Beta) requires the following:

Windows XP with SP2, Windows Server 2003, or Windows Vista
Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0
Windows Imaging Component

->The 32-bit or 64-bit version of Internet Explorer 6, Internet
Explorer 7, or Firefox 2.0

250 MB or more of hard disk space
A 1.0-gigahertz (GHz) processor (2.8 GHz or faster is recommended)
256 MB of system memory (1 GB is recommended)
A 32-MB video card (256 MB is recommended) that supports Microsoft
DirectX 9, with 3D hardware acceleration enabled
A high-speed or broadband Internet connection


2D maps work fine on my IE6 machine in the browser. I don't have
Legacy on this machine to test it directly.  So if Legacy requires IE7
it is a Millenia thing as M$ says you can use IE6 even in the SDK
help.

JD

On 6/8/08, Art Seddon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is Microsoft even doing security updates for IE6?
>
> Art Seddon
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Gary Templeman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 8:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] new FamilySearch integration?
>
>
> You cannot have IE6 and IE7 at the same time, however I think there IS
> potentially at least one workaround for you. I am 97% sure you can dual boot
> the same version of Windows. This is a bit complex so only someone who knows
> what they are doing should attempt it.
>
> 1. Resize the existing partition on your hard driver and create another
> partition (using Partition Magic or free alternatives). Assign it a drive
> letter higher than what is currently used for any CD/DVD drives and optional
> flash drives, card readers, etc
> 2. Install a second copy of Windows on that partition, and update it to IE7.
> 3. Install a second copy of Legacy on that partition, but point it to the
> data and multimedia files on the "C" drive.
>
> Make your current Windows installation the default, but whenever you really,
> really need to use the mapping feature or anything else that may call for
> IE7, simply reboot and choose the other Windows version. When you finish,
> reboot back to the default Windows version. Both copies of Legacy should be
> able to access the same data file, keeping everything current.
>
> Beyond that, your other options are to either do without those *few* Legacy
> features that need IE7, or to complain to the developers of your *other*
> software, who are choosing to force you into using an obsolete browser. IE7
> is over a year and a half old now. Legacy has stayed current and it seems to
> me the other companies have had plenty of time to create their own updates
> so you would not have any conflicts.
>
> Legacy had to make some decisions, and their code was written based on those
> decisions. It is extremely unlikely they are either able or willing to
> backtrack. So, like trying to get an umpire to change a call, continued
> complaining by a few people on the list is going nowhere.
>
> Gary Templeman
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Pat Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 6:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] new FamilySearch integration?
>
>
> >I don't think IE 6 (which is required for my home job) can be installed at
> >the same time as IE 7.  I wish it were possible (or maybe I don't)
> >
>
>
>
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] new FamilySearch integration?

2008-06-11 Thread ronald ferguson

It has been said many, many times that Legacy uses the IE7 engine to access VE 
because the IE6 engine couldn't be made to work from within Legacy.

What can be accessed from within a website is totally different from that which 
can be accessed via your own PC.


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> Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 13:51:21 -0400
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] new FamilySearch integration?
>
> Despite what the Legacy Manual says form M$ themselves;
>
> System requirements for Live Search Maps
> Live Search Maps in 2D mode requires Microsoft Internet Explorer 6,
> Internet Explorer 7, or Mozilla Firefox 2.0.
>
> ->Virtual Earth 3D (Beta) requires the following:
>
> Windows XP with SP2, Windows Server 2003, or Windows Vista
> Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0
> Windows Imaging Component
>
> ->The 32-bit or 64-bit version of Internet Explorer 6, Internet
> Explorer 7, or Firefox 2.0
>
> 250 MB or more of hard disk space
> A 1.0-gigahertz (GHz) processor (2.8 GHz or faster is recommended)
> 256 MB of system memory (1 GB is recommended)
> A 32-MB video card (256 MB is recommended) that supports Microsoft
> DirectX 9, with 3D hardware acceleration enabled
> A high-speed or broadband Internet connection
>
>
> 2D maps work fine on my IE6 machine in the browser. I don't have
> Legacy on this machine to test it directly. So if Legacy requires IE7
> it is a Millenia thing as M$ says you can use IE6 even in the SDK
> help.
>
> JD
>
> On 6/8/08, Art Seddon  wrote:
>> Is Microsoft even doing security updates for IE6?
>>
>> Art Seddon
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Gary Templeman" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 8:21 PM
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] new FamilySearch integration?
>>
>>
>> You cannot have IE6 and IE7 at the same time, however I think there IS
>> potentially at least one workaround for you. I am 97% sure you can dual boot
>> the same version of Windows. This is a bit complex so only someone who knows
>> what they are doing should attempt it.
>>
>> 1. Resize the existing partition on your hard driver and create another
>> partition (using Partition Magic or free alternatives). Assign it a drive
>> letter higher than what is currently used for any CD/DVD drives and optional
>> flash drives, card readers, etc
>> 2. Install a second copy of Windows on that partition, and update it to IE7.
>> 3. Install a second copy of Legacy on that partition, but point it to the
>> data and multimedia files on the "C" drive.
>>
>> Make your current Windows installation the default, but whenever you really,
>> really need to use the mapping feature or anything else that may call for
>> IE7, simply reboot and choose the other Windows version. When you finish,
>> reboot back to the default Windows version. Both copies of Legacy should be
>> able to access the same data file, keeping everything current.
>>
>> Beyond that, your other options are to either do without those *few* Legacy
>> features that need IE7, or to complain to the developers of your *other*
>> software, who are choosing to force you into using an obsolete browser. IE7
>> is over a year and a half old now. Legacy has stayed current and it seems to
>> me the other companies have had plenty of time to create their own updates
>> so you would not have any conflicts.
>>
>> Legacy had to make some decisions, and their code was written based on those
>> decisions. It is extremely unlikely they are either able or willing to
>> backtrack. So, like trying to get an umpire to change a call, continued
>> complaining by a few people on the list is going nowhere.
>>
>> Gary Templeman
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Pat Walker" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 6:52 AM
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] new FamilySearch integration?
>>
>>
>>>I don't think IE 6 (which is required for my home job) can be installed at
>>>the same time as IE 7. I wish it were possible (or maybe I don't)
>>>
>>

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Re: [LegacyUG] new FamilySearch integration?

2008-06-11 Thread Leon Chapman
Gary:

You should be able to run another version of XP as a Virtual Machine
on an XP machine.
The specs at Microsoft say you can go back and run Windows ME or
Windows 98 if you like.
I wouldn't recommend going back that far in time.

Good Luck.
Chap

On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 7:18 AM, Gary Templeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Leon,
>
> I had considered that option. I know you can install XP inside of Vista
> using MS Virtual PC. What I don't know is whether you can install another
> instance of XP inside of XP. Pat apparently has an existing XP computer.
> Having two instances of XP would be simpler than dual booting, but it will
> probably require increasing the amount of RAM, as both OS's would be using
> RAM at the same time. Dual booting is harder to switch back and forth but
> avoids the RAM issue.
>
> A VM is probably the best solution for those who buy a new computer with
> Vista but have some products that require XP or earlier, or IE6 or earlier.
>
> Gary
> - Original Message - From: "Leon Chapman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 8:37 AM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] new FamilySearch integration?
>
>
>> Pat & Gary:
>>
>> You might want to consider this solution as an option.
>>
>> Use MS Virtual PC, v.6.0.6001, SP1 is the latest version -- It is a
>> free download.
>> You can install it and run a Virtual Machine.
>> I have Vista and am using it to run Windows XP in a virtual machine
>> window.
>> You will need to have a copy of an operating system to install in the
>> Virtual Machine (VM).
>>
>> I have installed Legacy 7 in the VM under Windows XP and have
>> installed IE 7 in the VM.  Then Legacy 7 and IE 7 run perfectly and I
>> can do the mapping in the VM.
>> The files can be copied from your hard drive to the VM very easily.
>>
>> One advantage is you do not have to reboot your machine to run the VM.
>> It just opens a window and starts up or you can save the exiting
>> state of the VM and return to it later.
>>
>> You can also use VMWare software for a VM, but tipically it will cost
>> for the software and moving in and out of the VM windows back to VISTA
>> is not as user friendly as MS Virtual PC software.
>>
>> The use of VMs has become more popular since the Macs now run on an
>> Intel processor and people want to run an application under Windows
>> that is not available to them otherwise, e.g., Legacy.
>>
>> We have gone to this approach in our computer lab for teaching both
>> Vista and XP.  We use the VM under Vista to run XP to teach classes as
>> needed on Windows XP.
>>
>> The bottom line, you get to keep your favorite IE6 or whatever on your
>> machine as your workhorse, but you can use IE7 only in the VM -- this
>> way you have the best of both.
>>
>> Chap
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