Re: [LegacyUG] Another Census question
Which census year? On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Kirstin catlady1...@yahoo.com wrote: I read the tip to find the NARA roll number through Steve's site (see Legacy News, SourceWriter tips), but I can't find the number for the enumeration district number on the census, only the name. Is there a site to quickly find the numbers? Kirstin *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Another Census question
NARA has catalogs online, but I don't know that quickly is a word to describe finding the enumeration district. For census schedules see: http://www.archives.gov/publications/microfilm-catalogs/census/1790-1890/index.html Elizabeth researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson - Original Message - From: Kirstin catlady1...@yahoo.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 9:24 AM Subject: [LegacyUG] Another Census question I read the tip to find the NARA roll number through Steve's site (see Legacy News, SourceWriter tips), but I can't find the number for the enumeration district number on the census, only the name. Is there a site to quickly find the numbers? Kirstin *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Another Census question
I was specifically looking at 1850 right now, but will eventually need all of them. Randolph Clark wrote: Which census year? On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Kirstin catlady1...@yahoo.com wrote: I read the tip to find the NARA roll number through Steve's site (see Legacy News, SourceWriter tips), but I can't find the number for the enumeration district number on the census, only the name. Is there a site to quickly find the numbers? Kirstin *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Another Census question
Thank you! That helps. Kirstin Elizabeth Richardson wrote: NARA has catalogs online, but I don't know that quickly is a word to describe finding the enumeration district. For census schedules see: http://www.archives.gov/publications/microfilm-catalogs/census/1790-1890/index.html Elizabeth researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson - Original Message - From: Kirstin catlady1...@yahoo.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 9:24 AM Subject: [LegacyUG] Another Census question I read the tip to find the NARA roll number through Steve's site (see Legacy News, SourceWriter tips), but I can't find the number for the enumeration district number on the census, only the name. Is there a site to quickly find the numbers? Kirstin *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Another Census question
1850 right now. Others later. Randolph Clark wrote: Which census year? On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Kirstin catlady1...@yahoo.com wrote: I read the tip to find the NARA roll number through Steve's site (see Legacy News, SourceWriter tips), but I can't find the number for the enumeration district number on the census, only the name. Is there a site to quickly find the numbers? Kirstin *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Another Census question
Probably easier to try http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=0 and see if you can find them by name and place. Were you using stevemorse.org to find the districts? Eliz On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 2:15 PM, Kirstin catlady1...@yahoo.com wrote: I was specifically looking at 1850 right now, but will eventually need all of them. Randolph Clark wrote: Which census year? On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Kirstin catlady1...@yahoo.com wrote: I read the tip to find the NARA roll number through Steve's site (see Legacy News, SourceWriter tips), but I can't find the number for the enumeration district number on the census, only the name. Is there a site to quickly find the numbers? Kirstin *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Another Census question
Thanks! That explains why I couldn't find them. Kirstin Kirsten Bowman wrote: Kirstin: Not all US census years have enumeration districts associated with them. If there is an enumeration district for the census record you're using, it will be shown on either the top left or top right corner of the page and clearly identified as Enumeration District with a number. Kirsten -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of Kirstin Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 10:25 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Another Census question I read the tip to find the NARA roll number through Steve's site (see Legacy News, SourceWriter tips), but I can't find the number for the enumeration district number on the census, only the name. Is there a site to quickly find the numbers? Kirstin *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] A Census Question - Topekan
What a small world! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mary Figgins - Another Topekan here. Bob Mary Figgins wrote: = I agree. My citations for censuses are actually Household of Jesse Root. 1920 Kansas, Shawnee County, Topeka, Ward 4, ED 53, page 61. I figure anyone should be able to find the reference from that. The rest of the census entry is where the paper copy is stored, where I located the census under respository and the text of the census. Mary Beth Figgins Kirsten Bowman wrote: Keith: I think Elizabeth Shown Mills' _Evidence Explained_ is an invaluable reference tool for formatting source citations but I also think some of the formats are extreme overkill and can be far too time-consuming. If you're expecting to publish a book or an article, or if you're a professional researcher, you probably can't go wrong by following Mills' examples. If you're a hobbyist, I feel it's sufficient with a US census citation to simply use country, state, county, city, ED, and page number. If you or someone else can't relocate the listing with all that information then it might be a hopeless case. There are reasons for including film numbers, line numbers and all the rest, but what are the chances that out of the possibly hundreds or even thousands of census sources you cite someone will actually follow that path? I'd rather spend my time searching for ancestors than crafting scholarly source citations. Let common sense be your guide. Kirsten -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of GeoSci Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 5:43 PM To: Legacy User Group Subject: [LegacyUG] A Census Question Depending upon where I get my information - US Census rcords seem to have very different numbers. For some - the only numbers I could get might read: Series T623, Roll 1393, Page 59 while for another it might read: Family History Library # 1255207, NA Film # T9-1207, Page 523D and yet for another: Roll T9-1043, Page 294C Obviously these are from different sources (Heritage Quest, FamilySearchLabs, Family Search, Lost Cousins, etc.) - but are they coordinated anywhere? Which of these are needed and which are a waste of time and energy? I do have State, County and Town (or Township) - so that detail is there... Advise? Clarification? Thanks Keith -- Website: http://home.comcast.net/~geosci64 EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] McCain-McKane-O'Kane DNA Group 1 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- Bob Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] A Census Question
I agree. My citations for censuses are actually Household of Jesse Root. 1920 Kansas, Shawnee County, Topeka, Ward 4, ED 53, page 61. I figure anyone should be able to find the reference from that. The rest of the census entry is where the paper copy is stored, where I located the census under respository and the text of the census. Mary Beth Figgins Kirsten Bowman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keith: I think Elizabeth Shown Mills' _Evidence Explained_ is an invaluable reference tool for formatting source citations but I also think some of the formats are extreme overkill and can be far too time-consuming. If you're expecting to publish a book or an article, or if you're a professional researcher, you probably can't go wrong by following Mills' examples. If you're a hobbyist, I feel it's sufficient with a US census citation to simply use country, state, county, city, ED, and page number. If you or someone else can't relocate the listing with all that information then it might be a hopeless case. There are reasons for including film numbers, line numbers and all the rest, but what are the chances that out of the possibly hundreds or even thousands of census sources you cite someone will actually follow that path? I'd rather spend my time searching for ancestors than crafting scholarly source citations. Let common sense be your guide. Kirsten -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of GeoSci Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 5:43 PM To: Legacy User Group Subject: [LegacyUG] A Census Question Depending upon where I get my information - US Census rcords seem to have very different numbers. For some - the only numbers I could get might read: Series T623, Roll 1393, Page 59 while for another it might read: Family History Library # 1255207, NA Film # T9-1207, Page 523D and yet for another: Roll T9-1043, Page 294C Obviously these are from different sources (Heritage Quest, FamilySearchLabs, Family Search, Lost Cousins, etc.) - but are they coordinated anywhere? Which of these are needed and which are a waste of time and energy? I do have State, County and Town (or Township) - so that detail is there... Advise? Clarification? Thanks Keith -- Website: http://home.comcast.net/~geosci64 EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] McCain-McKane-O'Kane DNA Group 1 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] A Census Question
Mary Figgins - Another Topekan here. Bob Mary Figgins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: = I agree. My citations for censuses are actually Household of Jesse Root. 1920 Kansas, Shawnee County, Topeka, Ward 4, ED 53, page 61. I figure anyone should be able to find the reference from that. The rest of the census entry is where the paper copy is stored, where I located the census under respository and the text of the census. Mary Beth Figgins Kirsten Bowman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keith: I think Elizabeth Shown Mills' _Evidence Explained_ is an invaluable reference tool for formatting source citations but I also think some of the formats are extreme overkill and can be far too time-consuming. If you're expecting to publish a book or an article, or if you're a professional researcher, you probably can't go wrong by following Mills' examples. If you're a hobbyist, I feel it's sufficient with a US census citation to simply use country, state, county, city, ED, and page number. If you or someone else can't relocate the listing with all that information then it might be a hopeless case. There are reasons for including film numbers, line numbers and all the rest, but what are the chances that out of the possibly hundreds or even thousands of census sources you cite someone will actually follow that path? I'd rather spend my time searching for ancestors than crafting scholarly source citations. Let common sense be your guide. Kirsten -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of GeoSci Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 5:43 PM To: Legacy User Group Subject: [LegacyUG] A Census Question Depending upon where I get my information - US Census rcords seem to have very different numbers. For some - the only numbers I could get might read: Series T623, Roll 1393, Page 59 while for another it might read: Family History Library # 1255207, NA Film # T9-1207, Page 523D and yet for another: Roll T9-1043, Page 294C Obviously these are from different sources (Heritage Quest, FamilySearchLabs, Family Search, Lost Cousins, etc.) - but are they coordinated anywhere? Which of these are needed and which are a waste of time and energy? I do have State, County and Town (or Township) - so that detail is there... Advise? Clarification? Thanks Keith -- Website: http://home.comcast.net/~geosci64 EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] McCain-McKane-O'Kane DNA Group 1 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- Bob Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] A Census Question
I don't write the numbers at all. I keep the documents themselves in digital form. JL JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/jlog.html GeoSci wrote: Depending upon where I get my information - US Census rcords seem to have very different numbers. For some - the only numbers I could get might read: Series T623, Roll 1393, Page 59 while for another it might read: Family History Library # 1255207, NA Film # T9-1207, Page 523D and yet for another: Roll T9-1043, Page 294C Obviously these are from different sources (Heritage Quest, FamilySearchLabs, Family Search, Lost Cousins, etc.) - but are they coordinated anywhere? Which of these are needed and which are a waste of time and energy? I do have State, County and Town (or Township) - so that detail is there... Advise? Clarification? Thanks Keith Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] A Census Question
If your interest in citing a source is to allow others to find it, then I would consider a citation such as 1930 US Census, Chicago, Lincoln County, Illinois, HeritageQuest, link here, series, roll, page, line Others will have their own preferences (order of state, county, township, etc). John Depending upon where I get my information - US Census rcords seem to have very different numbers. For some - the only numbers I could get might read: Series T623, Roll 1393, Page 59 while for another it might read: Family History Library # 1255207, NA Film # T9-1207, Page 523D and yet for another: Roll T9-1043, Page 294C Obviously these are from different sources (Heritage Quest, FamilySearchLabs, Family Search, Lost Cousins, etc.) - but are they coordinated anywhere? Which of these are needed and which are a waste of time and energy? I do have State, County and Town (or Township) - so that detail is there... Advise? Clarification? Thanks Keith -- Website: http://home.comcast.net/~geosci64 EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] McCain-McKane-O'Kane DNA Group 1 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] A Census Question
You seem to have different publications for the same census. If that were my case, I would create a Master Source record for each because the publication information is different. Then, your detail information will directly tie to the publication information you cite. I do have some paper copies of the 1850-1900 census in my files, and when I get to those years, I'll have to decide whether to cite NARA, the FHL, or use Ancestry. I have copies of all the Ancestry census on my computer, so I suspect I'll retrieve them electronically, but it remains to be seen if I'll feel that ambitious. Elizabeth researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson - Original Message - From: GeoSci [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Legacy User Group LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 4:42 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] A Census Question Depending upon where I get my information - US Census rcords seem to have very different numbers. For some - the only numbers I could get might read: Series T623, Roll 1393, Page 59 while for another it might read: Family History Library # 1255207, NA Film # T9-1207, Page 523D and yet for another: Roll T9-1043, Page 294C Obviously these are from different sources (Heritage Quest, FamilySearchLabs, Family Search, Lost Cousins, etc.) - but are they coordinated anywhere? Which of these are needed and which are a waste of time and energy? I do have State, County and Town (or Township) - so that detail is there... Advise? Clarification? Thanks Keith -- Website: http://home.comcast.net/~geosci64 EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] McCain-McKane-O'Kane DNA Group 1 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] A Census Question
Keith, The information offered is essentially the same. The first one is usually from Heritage Quest Online, and is self explanatory. Series #, Roll #, Page #. The Family History Library gives the same information, but in a different way. This is also the format for the Family search 1880 census transcription. First it adds an identification number for the library film. Then it has the NARA Film Number which includes the Series # (T9 in your example, which is the 1880 Census Year), then a - and then the Roll# (1207 in your example), then the Page #(523D in your example) The third example, I am not sure. I have not seen this configuration before. But T9 is the Series, 1043 is the Roll, and 294C is the page. Some census records have only one page per record, some 2, and some 4. So if you get a record that has more than one page for the record, you will get the B, C, or D after the page number. I hope this information helps. Lawanda Darby --- GeoSci [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Depending upon where I get my information - US Census rcords seem to have very different numbers. For some - the only numbers I could get might read: Series T623, Roll 1393, Page 59 while for another it might read: Family History Library # 1255207, NA Film # T9-1207, Page 523D and yet for another: Roll T9-1043, Page 294C Obviously these are from different sources (Heritage Quest, FamilySearchLabs, Family Search, Lost Cousins, etc.) - but are they coordinated anywhere? Which of these are needed and which are a waste of time and energy? I do have State, County and Town (or Township) - so that detail is there... Advise? Clarification? Thanks Keith -- Website: http://home.comcast.net/~geosci64 EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] McCain-McKane-O'Kane DNA Group 1 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] A Census Question
Keith: I think Elizabeth Shown Mills' _Evidence Explained_ is an invaluable reference tool for formatting source citations but I also think some of the formats are extreme overkill and can be far too time-consuming. If you're expecting to publish a book or an article, or if you're a professional researcher, you probably can't go wrong by following Mills' examples. If you're a hobbyist, I feel it's sufficient with a US census citation to simply use country, state, county, city, ED, and page number. If you or someone else can't relocate the listing with all that information then it might be a hopeless case. There are reasons for including film numbers, line numbers and all the rest, but what are the chances that out of the possibly hundreds or even thousands of census sources you cite someone will actually follow that path? I'd rather spend my time searching for ancestors than crafting scholarly source citations. Let common sense be your guide. Kirsten -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of GeoSci Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 5:43 PM To: Legacy User Group Subject: [LegacyUG] A Census Question Depending upon where I get my information - US Census rcords seem to have very different numbers. For some - the only numbers I could get might read: Series T623, Roll 1393, Page 59 while for another it might read: Family History Library # 1255207, NA Film # T9-1207, Page 523D and yet for another: Roll T9-1043, Page 294C Obviously these are from different sources (Heritage Quest, FamilySearchLabs, Family Search, Lost Cousins, etc.) - but are they coordinated anywhere? Which of these are needed and which are a waste of time and energy? I do have State, County and Town (or Township) - so that detail is there... Advise? Clarification? Thanks Keith -- Website: http://home.comcast.net/~geosci64 EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] McCain-McKane-O'Kane DNA Group 1 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
