RE: [LegacyUG] Sorting AKAs
I don't think it would be a good enhancement. Just another item to tend to. Legacy already does enough as it is. You can create your own Naming/AKA Event to do exactly what you are wanting Legacy to create for you. I don't mean to offend you, but Legacy has plenty of current enhancements that can be manipulated by the average person to accomplish quite a number of fabulous tools. LOL Its too early for us to wish for Version 8 Matt -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of La Nell Shores Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 9:42 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Sorting AKAs It has been a pet peeve of mine for a long time. I have suggested they give us the little up/down sorting arrows that is used in other sorting locations to no avail, as yet. I guess not enough people have requested it. If this is something you really want, suggest it directly to them, and if enough request itwell, we can only hope. La Nell -Original Message- Subject: [LegacyUG] Sorting AKAs Whenever I have 2 or more AKAs for an individual I strongly wish they were in chronological order. If I start with baptism name and source it, then as a 5 yr old in census the second entry goes on top. I would really like to see a date for each AKA AND the Up/Down arrow to manually shift position to see how a name evolves with time. It looks like they could be re-ordered from Access tblNX on an individual basis but you would first need to check each source date to determine preferred order. Does anyone else agreethis would be a valuable enhancement? -- Richard Van Wasshnova http://www.gencircles.com/users/vanwasshnova http://gw.geneanet.org/vanwasshnova Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Sorting AKAs
It has been a pet peeve of mine for a long time. I have suggested they give us the little up/down sorting arrows that is used in other sorting locations to no avail, as yet. I guess not enough people have requested it. If this is something you really want, suggest it directly to them, and if enough request itwell, we can only hope. La Nell -Original Message- Subject: [LegacyUG] Sorting AKAs Whenever I have 2 or more AKAs for an individual I strongly wish they were in chronological order. If I start with baptism name and source it, then as a 5 yr old in census the second entry goes on top. I would really like to see a date for each AKA AND the Up/Down arrow to manually shift position to see how a name evolves with time. It looks like they could be re-ordered from Access tblNX on an individual basis but you would first need to check each source date to determine preferred order. Does anyone else agreethis would be a valuable enhancement? -- Richard Van Wasshnova http://www.gencircles.com/users/vanwasshnova http://gw.geneanet.org/vanwasshnova Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Sorting AKAs
I forgot they were alphabetic. Thanks! -- Richard Van Wasshnova http://www.gencircles.com/users/vanwasshnova http://gw.geneanet.org/vanwasshnova On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 6:07 PM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES wrote: > > The first time I asked was in L5, I don't think reordering using Access > because it willl just re-alphabetize the names anyway. > Rich in LA CA > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Sorting AKAs
The first time I asked was in L5, I don't think reordering using Access because it willl just re-alphabetize the names anyway. Rich in LA CA --- On Fri, 4/24/09, Dennis M. Kowallek wrote: > From: Dennis M. Kowallek > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sorting AKAs > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Date: Friday, April 24, 2009, 1:11 PM > On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 12:47:47 -0700, Richard Van Wasshnova > wrote: > > >Whenever I have 2 or more AKAs for an individual I > strongly wish they > >were in chronological order. If I start with baptism > name and source > >it, then as a 5 yr old in census the second entry goes > on top. I would > >really like to see a date for each AKA AND the Up/Down > arrow to > >manually shift position to see how a name evolves with > time. > > > >It looks like they could be re-ordered from Access > tblNX on an > >individual basis but you would first need to check each > source date to > >determine preferred order. > > > >Does anyone else agreethis would be a valuable > enhancement? > > If I were starting over I would abandon AKAs all together > and just put > this kind of info in Event/Fact. You can order them, assign > dates, make > them private, categorize them (misspelling, transcription > error, > nickname, legal name change, etc.), customize the report > sentence ... > all the things you can't do with an AKA. > > -- > > Dennis Kowallek (LTools) > http://zippersoftware.com/ltools > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Sorting AKAs
One of the main reasons I switched to Legacy many years ago was the facility of its AKAs. The majority of my entries have multiple names, mostly titles by which they were known. It is invaluable that I can list all of these names and find each one almost as easily as main surname. I wish they were also included when adding parents. When researching old records, Visitations, genealogies and the like, any one of many names may be used. It is of incalculable value to be able to go to my Index and find the person whom I list as Humphrey de /Bohun/, 2nd Earl of Essex, but who is referred to in research as Humphrey de Bohun, 2nd Earl of /Hereford/, or as Humphrey de Bohun, 1st Earl of /Essex/, and several more. It is also invaluable in creating a list of successive lords, dukes, kings, or whatever, because I can use the place as a surname also (as above). With more recent ancestors, name changes were not always successive, especially because there was no spelling consistency in English until the OED in the late 1880s. Just read some early American wills if you haven't already. And that's just English! When dealing with foreign names, it is marvelous to be able to use Wilhelm, Willem, Guillaume, and William, for example, as well as the mangled English attempts at reproducing foreign surnames. Yes, sometimes, such as when the US Immigration officials decided that my brother-in-law's first name was not a real name, they changed it right there on Ellis Island, it is nice to be able to date the change. Census takers were challenged by the accents of their interviewees and their own lack of knowledge how to spell foreign names. That a name was different on a census was usually a result of such rather than a true name change. My Quin relatives were sometimes correctly listed as Quin, but too often as Quinn, because that's the way the census taker thought it was spelled. There never was any actual name change. Carolyn -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Dennis M. Kowallek Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 1:12 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sorting AKAs On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 12:47:47 -0700, Richard Van Wasshnova wrote: >Whenever I have 2 or more AKAs for an individual I strongly wish they >were in chronological order. If I start with baptism name and source >it, then as a 5 yr old in census the second entry goes on top. I would >really like to see a date for each AKA AND the Up/Down arrow to >manually shift position to see how a name evolves with time. > >It looks like they could be re-ordered from Access tblNX on an >individual basis but you would first need to check each source date to >determine preferred order. > >Does anyone else agreethis would be a valuable enhancement? If I were starting over I would abandon AKAs all together and just put this kind of info in Event/Fact. You can order them, assign dates, make them private, categorize them (misspelling, transcription error, nickname, legal name change, etc.), customize the report sentence ... all the things you can't do with an AKA. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.58/2061 - Release Date: 04/23/09 19:21:00 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Sorting AKAs
On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 12:47:47 -0700, Richard Van Wasshnova wrote: >Whenever I have 2 or more AKAs for an individual I strongly wish they >were in chronological order. If I start with baptism name and source >it, then as a 5 yr old in census the second entry goes on top. I would >really like to see a date for each AKA AND the Up/Down arrow to >manually shift position to see how a name evolves with time. > >It looks like they could be re-ordered from Access tblNX on an >individual basis but you would first need to check each source date to >determine preferred order. > >Does anyone else agreethis would be a valuable enhancement? If I were starting over I would abandon AKAs all together and just put this kind of info in Event/Fact. You can order them, assign dates, make them private, categorize them (misspelling, transcription error, nickname, legal name change, etc.), customize the report sentence ... all the things you can't do with an AKA. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Sorting AKAs
Richard, It is something which irritates me also, although I would not give it a high priority. Ron Ferguson _ *New Tutorial* Create Standards Compliant CSS Pedigree web pages http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ > Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 12:47:47 -0700 > Subject: [LegacyUG] Sorting AKAs > From: rfvanwasshn...@gmail.com > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > > Whenever I have 2 or more AKAs for an individual I strongly wish they > were in chronological order. If I start with baptism name and source > it, then as a 5 yr old in census the second entry goes on top. I would > really like to see a date for each AKA AND the Up/Down arrow to > manually shift position to see how a name evolves with time. > > It looks like they could be re-ordered from Access tblNX on an > individual basis but you would first need to check each source date to > determine preferred order. > > Does anyone else agreethis would be a valuable enhancement? > > -- > Richard Van Wasshnova > http://www.gencircles.com/users/vanwasshnova > http://gw.geneanet.org/vanwasshnova _ Share your photos with Windows Live Photos – Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665338/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] sorting AKAs
Richard in Seal Beach: If you are in Seal Beach, California, there is a monthly LUG meeting next Monday, Feb 9. Richard Schulties and I drive up together. If you are interested in learning about it or coming with us, contact me offline at cathyv...@cox.net. Cathy Vallevieni Orange County,CA At 08:46 PM 2/3/2009, you wrote: Thanks Rich, I suppose another request now couldn't hurt. Richard in Seal Beach On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 10:59 AM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES wrote: > At present, yes. Back in L5, a 'fix' was requested by myself and others. The query was to allow sorting similar to the Event list, choices alpha or 'as placed'. > Rich in LA CA Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] sorting AKAs
Thanks Rich, I suppose another request now couldn't hurt. Richard in Seal Beach On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 10:59 AM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES wrote: > At present, yes. Back in L5, a 'fix' was requested by myself and others. The > query was to allow sorting similar to the Event list, choices alpha or 'as > placed'. > Rich in LA CA Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] sorting AKAs
At present, yes. Back in L5, a 'fix' was requested by myself and others. The query was to allow sorting similar to the Event list, choices alpha or 'as placed'. Rich in LA CA --- On Tue, 2/3/09, Richard Van Wasshnova wrote: > From: Richard Van Wasshnova > Subject: [LegacyUG] sorting AKAs > To: "LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com" > > Date: Tuesday, February 3, 2009, 8:54 AM > Must AKAs be sorted alphabetically? Is there any way to > change the order? > > I have a family name of DIGUE or DIGUA and a very often > found > erroneous DIGNE. (In old manuscripts "n" looks > like "u" so I've found > 100s of transcription errors with u read as n.) I would > prefer to see > AKAs listed chronologicaly from birth through marriage and > census and > death and ending with after death transcriptions from > manuscript. This > would also apply to first names that often change after > marriage. > > -- > Richard Van Wasshnova > http://www.gencircles.com/users/vanwasshnova > http://gw.geneanet.org/vanwasshnova > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
