Re: [LegacyUG] The marriage tag - What is is good for?

2009-09-09 Thread Jenny M Benson

Kramer wrote
In the marriage view, I would rather be able to note the church 
location of the marriage rather than having to make it an event to 
record the church name. In the deluxe versions of 6.0 and 7.0 
everything else has the link to record an address, but not a marriage. 
So I make it a marriage event so I can keep record of it.


You don't need to make an Event to record the name of the Church. On the 
Marriage Information screen, click on the house icon and enter the 
name (and address) of the Church there.

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RE: [LegacyUG] The marriage tag - What is is good for?

2009-09-09 Thread ronald ferguson




 Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 10:04:04 +0100
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 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] The marriage tag - What is is good for?

 Kramer wrote
 In the marriage view, I would rather be able to note the church
location of the marriage rather than having to make it an event to
record the church name. In the deluxe versions of 6.0 and 7.0
everything else has the link to record an address, but not a marriage.
So I make it a marriage event so I can keep record of it.

 You don't need to make an Event to record the name of the Church. On the
 Marriage Information screen, click on the house icon and enter the
 name (and address) of the Church there.
 --
 Jenny M Benson

..Or do as I do and inclue it in the Location Field.

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Re: [LegacyUG] The marriage tag - What is is good for?

2009-09-09 Thread Robert Carneal USA

In a recent post, you said:
In the deluxe versions of 6.0 and 7.0 everything else has the link to 
record an address, but not a marriage.

[End]

Try going here:
1. Open Family View
2. Click marriage bar that has information in it
3. The marriage window opens-- there are some icons fairly in the 
center, not far from the top. One of the icons is a 'house.' Click 
it. That opens the address window where you can enter the address 
where the marriage took place.


Will that work for you? (I may have misunderstood.)

Thanks.

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Re: [LegacyUG] The marriage tag - What is is good for?

2009-09-09 Thread Paula Ryburn
If I understood the gist of this thread, we need two enhancements to Legacy re: 
marriage tags:

1.  Ability to tag marriages found as result of a detailed search.
2.  Ability to view just the tagged marriages (in lists, reports, etc.)

Am I correct?

Do we need to submit a formal request on the Legacy website?
Has someone already done that?

Thanks,
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Re: [LegacyUG] The marriage tag - What is is good for?

2009-09-09 Thread michael barberi
Most Church marriage records contain the name and location of the Church.  For 
Italian ancestors, you will frequently find the Church Marriage Record as 
follows: Book of Marriages 1743, Page 56 retro, Church of San Martino, Cerreto 
Sannita, Italy.  This becomes the Master Source for the marriage record.  The 
marriage record Detail also contains name and address of the Church such as 
Giovanni Barbieri, son of Giuseppe and Angela Cappella, MARRIES Cristina 
Sanzeri, daughter of Stefano and Maria Grazia Meola, on 1 Feb 1743 in the 
Church of San Martino, Cerreto Sannita, Italy.   In these examples, the name 
of the Church and its location/address, is part of the marriage record.  I 
never used the house icon to record the name of the Church and its 
location/address because this information is always part of the marriage record 
detail and its source.  Perhaps there is an advantage to using this field.  If 
so, please let me know.

Mike Barberi



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From: Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] The marriage tag - What is is good for?

Kramer wrote
 In the marriage view, I would rather be able to note the church location of 
 the marriage rather than having to make it an event to record the church 
 name. In the deluxe versions of 6.0 and 7.0 everything else has the link to 
 record an address, but not a marriage. So I make it a marriage event so I can 
 keep record of it.

You don't need to make an Event to record the name of the Church. On the 
Marriage Information screen, click on the house icon and enter the name (and 
address) of the Church there.
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RE: [LegacyUG] The marriage tag - What is is good for?

2009-09-09 Thread ronald ferguson

Mike,
 
Your Book of Marriages seems similar to the English Parish Registers 
(Marriages).
 
There are really three ways of doing things, leave the entry in the Source, as 
you are doing, or enter it into the Location or Address Fields.
 
I prefer the Location Field, in which case I have no need to name the Church in 
the Source, but it is very much a personal choice. Like many things in Legacy 
there is no right or wrong way.



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 Most Church marriage records contain the name and location of the Church. For 
 Italian ancestors, you will frequently find the Church Marriage Record as 
 follows: Book of Marriages 1743, Page 56 retro, Church of San Martino, 
 Cerreto Sannita, Italy. This becomes the Master Source for the marriage 
 record. The marriage record Detail also contains name and address of the 
 Church such as Giovanni Barbieri, son of Giuseppe and Angela Cappella, 
 MARRIES Cristina Sanzeri, daughter of Stefano and Maria Grazia Meola, on 1 
 Feb 1743 in the Church of San Martino, Cerreto Sannita, Italy. In these 
 examples, the name of the Church and its location/address, is part of the 
 marriage record. I never used the house icon to record the name of the 
 Church and its location/address
 because this information is always part of the marriage record detail and its 
 source. Perhaps there is an advantage to using this field. If so, please let 
 me know.

 Mike Barberi



 In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas.
 In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love.
 St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430)


 
 From: Jenny M Benson
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
 Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 2:04:04 AM
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] The marriage tag - What is is good for?


 Kramer wrote
 In the marriage view, I would rather be able to note the church location of 
 the marriage rather than having to make it an event to record the church 
 name. In the deluxe versions of 6.0 and 7.0 everything else has the link to 
 record an address, but not a marriage. So I make it a marriage event so I 
 can keep record of it.

 You don't need to make an Event to record the name of the Church. On the 
 Marriage Information screen, click on the house icon and enter the name 
 (and address) of the Church there.
 -- Jenny M Benson
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Re: [LegacyUG] The marriage tag - What is is good for?

2009-09-09 Thread Jenny M Benson

michael barberi wrote

Most Church marriage records contain the name and location of the
Church.  For Italian ancestors, you will frequently find the Church
Marriage Record as follows: Book of Marriages 1743, Page 56 retro,
Church of San Martino, Cerreto Sannita, Italy.  This becomes the
Master Source for the marriage record. 


Most people would not put all of that into the Master Source. Some of it 
would go into the Source Detail.



The marriage record
Detail also contains name and address of the Church such as
Giovanni Barbieri, son of Giuseppe and Angela Cappella,
MARRIES Cristina Sanzeri, daughter of Stefano and Maria Grazia
Meola, on 1 Feb 1743 in the Church of San Martino, Cerreto Sannita,
Italy.   In these examples, the name of the Church and its
location/address, is part of the marriage record. 


Agreed it is included in the Source document, but I don't see why that 
should exclude it from the data.  When entering that marriage I would 
enter the place of marriage as Church of San Martino, Cerreto Sannita, 
Italy but I would probably also put the place into the Source as well.


The content of the Source Document is the data which you want to record 
- name, date, place, etc etc.  You need to record only as much detail of 
the document itself as is necessary to show your path to your findings 
- which would, ideally, permit another researcher to duplicate your 
research.  Sometimes you might want to quote the text of a Source 
Document or attach a copy of it but I cannot see a reason for omitting 
important information from your actual records.



I never used the
house icon to record the name of the Church and its
location/address because this information is always part of the
marriage record detail and its source.  Perhaps there is an advantage
to using this field.  If so, please let me know.


If you print out a Report do you not want to be able to read from it 
where people were born, married, died?


If you want to find out who was born in a particular town or married in 
a particular Church it is much easier to search if this is recorded as 
part of the Data as well as or instead of as part of the Source.

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Re: [LegacyUG] The marriage tag - What is is good for?

2009-09-08 Thread Richard Van Wasshnova
Thanks to both Rons for showing me the tool to page through tagged
MRINs. I had used the one for tagged RINs a while back. At that time I
hadn't tagged MRINs so never used it.

Rich, looks like you've aready submitted suggestion for what I would like.

Thanks to all.

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On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 2:38 PM, RICHARD SCHULTHIESfourpa...@verizon.net wrote:

 Example: One idea I wanted to see was exactly only the marriages in a 'tag 
 list'. The program also needs 2 more fieldsadded to the crowded screen. The 
 ones there already are sort in MRIN, male and female name alpha order, and 
 the needed extras are male Rin and female Rin number sorts.
 All I want is for Legacy to, while using the Marriage List screen, showing 
 only tagged on the marriage tag, instead of the full list. With almost 9000 
 couples, I NEED a tool for a partial list.
 Is this in any way what some of you were asking for?
 Rich in LA CA

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 From: ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] The marriage tag - What is is good for?
 To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Date: Monday, September 7, 2009, 11:10 AM

 Richard,

 (I know - wrong Ron!) It works OK for me. Go to Family View
 and click the arrow next to Marriage Tag 1 (make sure it is
 set to 1) and it moves through the list one at a time.



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Re: [LegacyUG] The marriage tag - What is is good for?

2009-09-07 Thread Jenny M Benson

Jenny M Benson wrote
Like most people, I find the full range of Individual Tags 
indispensable, use the Source Tag sometimes and the Location Tag 
occasionally, but have never had any reason to use a Marriage Tag.


Perhaps I'd better clarify that.  I meant the like most people to 
apply to the first part only, about Individual Tags.

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Re: [LegacyUG] The marriage tag - What is is good for?

2009-09-07 Thread Michele Lewis
I too use the individual tags (several of them) all the time but I have 
never used the marriage tags.


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Re: [LegacyUG] The marriage tag - What is is good for?

2009-09-07 Thread Ron Taylor
Under search you can find all marriages that have status divorced but at this 
point the option to tag all of those marriage records has not been added to the 
program.  You can manually set those tags in Legacy and then use the Marriage 
Tag tool at the bottom right to look at each of the tagged marriages.  Another 
good example would be to find all marriages with place containing Boise.  The 
search works well but again there is no option to set those marriage tags for 
the search results.  Instead, you can set the individual tag but if an 
individual has multiple marriages...not all of them will be in Boise so you 
will have to page through them to find the one that triggered the tag.

Summary:  Marriage tagging could be a valuable tool and should be developed.  
Millennia needs to add to the Advanced Tagging the option to tag the 
marriages.  Most of the other tools are already present to use those tags in 
searches, etc.

Ron Taylor

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From: Evert van Dijken evandij...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] The marriage tag - What is is good for?
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Date: Monday, September 7, 2009, 5:55 AM

Yes, I belong to those most people, and never had any reason to use the 
Marriage Tag. I only meant that a user who tagged the marriages can print the 
Search List of those tagged marriages.
How usefull this is? I don't know.
Evert


2009/9/7 Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk

Jenny M Benson wrote 


Like most people, I find the full range of Individual Tags indispensable, use 
the Source Tag sometimes and the Location Tag occasionally, but have never had 
any reason to use a Marriage Tag.


Perhaps I'd better clarify that.  I meant the like most people to apply to 
the first part only, about Individual Tags. 



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Re: [LegacyUG] The marriage tag - What is is good for?

2009-09-07 Thread Evert van Dijken
Yes, I agree.
I think there are some enhancement requests for marriage tagging in Mantis
(bug/enhancement tracking). I hope that in the near future the marriage tags
will get the same options as the individual tags.
Evert

2009/9/7 Ron Taylor doit4...@yahoo.com

   Under search you can find all marriages that have status divorced but
 at this point the option to tag all of those marriage records has not been
 added to the program.  You can manually set those tags in Legacy and then
 use the Marriage Tag tool at the bottom right to look at each of the tagged
 marriages.  Another good example would be to find all marriages with place
 containing Boise.  The search works well but again there is no option to
 set those marriage tags for the search results.  Instead, you can set the
 individual tag but if an individual has multiple marriages...not all of them
 will be in Boise so you will have to page through them to find the one that
 triggered the tag.

 Summary:  Marriage tagging could be a valuable tool and should be
 developed.  Millennia needs to add to the Advanced Tagging the option to
 tag the marriages.  Most of the other tools are already present to use those
 tags in searches, etc.

 Ron Taylor

 --- On *Mon, 9/7/09, Evert van Dijken evandij...@gmail.com* wrote:


 From: Evert van Dijken evandij...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] The marriage tag - What is is good for?
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Date: Monday, September 7, 2009, 5:55 AM

  Yes, I belong to those most people, and never had any reason to use the
 Marriage Tag. I only meant that a user who tagged the marriages can print
 the Search List of those tagged marriages.
 How usefull this is? I don't know.
 Evert

 2009/9/7 Jenny M Benson 
 ge...@cedarbank.me.ukhttp://mc/compose?to=ge...@cedarbank.me.uk
 

 Jenny M Benson wrote

 Like most people, I find the full range of Individual Tags indispensable,
 use the Source Tag sometimes and the Location Tag occasionally, but have
 never had any reason to use a Marriage Tag.


 Perhaps I'd better clarify that.  I meant the like most people to apply
 to the first part only, about Individual Tags.

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Re: [LegacyUG] The marriage tag - What is is good for?

2009-09-07 Thread Richard Van Wasshnova
Evert, Thanks for the search suggestion. Should have thought of that
myself. It could be of some help.

Jenny, What makes the Source and Location tags useful is the little
box you can tick to Show only Tagged so you can focus on a small
select list. The Individual (Name) List has Search  Show all Tagged 
Individual Tag #. I would think Legacy could do the same on the
Marriage List for the Marriage tags. This would make marriage tags
very useful to me.

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On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 4:23 AM, Jenny M Bensonge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote:
 Evert van Dijken wrote

 Search  Find  Detailed Search: Look for whom? - Marriage; Where to look
 - Marriage Tag 1...9

 Yes, but assumes you have some reason to tag the Marriages in the first
 place!

 Like most people, I find the full range of Individual Tags indispensable,
 use the Source Tag sometimes and the Location Tag occasionally, but have
 never had any reason to use a Marriage Tag.
 --
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Re: [LegacyUG] The marriage tag - What is is good for?

2009-09-07 Thread Richard Van Wasshnova
Hi Ron,

I have manually set Marriage tag 1 for about 100 marriages which have
one Master Source. All that work for naught. I can't focus on just
those marriages.

Can you explain the Marriage Tag tool at the bottom right to look at
each of the tagged Marriages?
I'm not sure what you're seeing.

Thanks
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On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Ron Taylordoit4...@yahoo.com wrote:
snip
 You can manually set those tags in Legacy and then
 use the Marriage Tag tool at the bottom right to look at each of the tagged
 marriages.

Snip

 Summary:  Marriage tagging could be a valuable tool and should be
 developed.  Millennia needs to add to the Advanced Tagging the option to
 tag the marriages.  Most of the other tools are already present to use those
 tags in searches, etc.

 Ron Taylor




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RE: [LegacyUG] The marriage tag - What is is good for?

2009-09-07 Thread ronald ferguson

Richard,
 
(I know - wrong Ron!) It works OK for me. Go to Family View and click the arrow 
next to Marriage Tag 1 (make sure it is set to 1) and it moves through the list 
one at a time.



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 Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 09:53:33 -0700
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] The marriage tag - What is is good for?
 From: rfvanwasshn...@gmail.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com

 Hi Ron,

 I have manually set Marriage tag 1 for about 100 marriages which have
 one Master Source. All that work for naught. I can't focus on just
 those marriages.

 Can you explain the Marriage Tag tool at the bottom right to look at
 each of the tagged Marriages?
 I'm not sure what you're seeing.

 Thanks
 --
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 http://www.gencircles.com/users/vanwasshnova
 http://gw.geneanet.org/vanwasshnova

 On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Ron Taylor wrote:
 
 You can manually set those tags in Legacy and then
 use the Marriage Tag tool at the bottom right to look at each of the tagged
 marriages.

 

 Summary: Marriage tagging could be a valuable tool and should be
 developed. Millennia needs to add to the Advanced Tagging the option to
 tag the marriages. Most of the other tools are already present to use those
 tags in searches, etc.

 Ron Taylor


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RE: [LegacyUG] The marriage tag - What is is good for?

2009-09-07 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
I just tested the way the marriage tags work now, and the change I asked for in 
2004 is not there yet. How I tested. Tagged Individual 1 and Marriage 9, then 
Searched for them. It found the correct 2 people, and when I untagged the M9, 
it found correctly the sets of M9 off and on, but what I had wanted originally, 
and still want, is for the screen to show only the actual couple on the 
Marriage list, in the same way the Individual search list, shows only the 
desired names. The marriage list NEVER can be trimmed to less that ALL 
marriages on the list.
Example: One idea I wanted to see was exactly only the marriages in a 'tag 
list'. The program also needs 2 more fieldsadded to the crowded screen. The 
ones there already are sort in MRIN, male and female name alpha order, and the 
needed extras are male Rin and female Rin number sorts. 
All I want is for Legacy to, while using the Marriage List screen, showing only 
tagged on the marriage tag, instead of the full list. With almost 9000 couples, 
I NEED a tool for a partial list. 
Is this in any way what some of you were asking for?
Rich in LA CA

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 From: ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] The marriage tag - What is is good for?
 To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Date: Monday, September 7, 2009, 11:10 AM
 
 Richard,
  
 (I know - wrong Ron!) It works OK for me. Go to Family View
 and click the arrow next to Marriage Tag 1 (make sure it is
 set to 1) and it moves through the list one at a time.
 
 
 
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  Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 09:53:33 -0700
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] The marriage tag - What is is
 good for?
  From: rfvanwasshn...@gmail.com
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 
  Hi Ron,
 
  I have manually set Marriage tag 1 for about 100
 marriages which have
  one Master Source. All that work for naught. I can't
 focus on just
  those marriages.
 
  Can you explain the Marriage Tag tool at the bottom
 right to look at
  each of the tagged Marriages?
  I'm not sure what you're seeing.
 
  Thanks
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  Richard Van Wasshnova
  http://www.gencircles.com/users/vanwasshnova
  http://gw.geneanet.org/vanwasshnova
 
  On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Ron Taylor wrote:
  
  You can manually set those tags in Legacy and
 then
  use the Marriage Tag tool at the bottom right to
 look at each of the tagged
  marriages.
 
  
 
  Summary: Marriage tagging could be a valuable tool
 and should be
  developed. Millennia needs to add to the Advanced
 Tagging the option to
  tag the marriages. Most of the other tools are
 already present to use those
  tags in searches, etc.
 
  Ron Taylor
 
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] The marriage tag - What is is good for?

2009-09-06 Thread Evert van Dijken
Search  Find  Detailed Search: Look for whom? - Marriage; Where to look -
Marriage Tag 1...9
Evert

2009/9/6 Richard Van Wasshnova rfvanwasshn...@gmail.com

 Legacy gives us 9 Individual RIN tags full featured and indispensible
 to most of us.
 We also have available 9 MRIN tags but I have yet to find any use for them.
 We need a Show only Tagged  tag # on the marriage list.
 Master Source List - 1 tag - only tagged button makes it useful.
 Master Event address - 1 tag - only tagged button makes it useful.
 Does anyone have any use for marriage tags?

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