Re: [LegacyUG] Evidence explained by Elizabeth Shown Mills

2008-06-15 Thread Simon Dick 
I just bought the PDF version as amazon listed the paper one for about  
£30 or so and I'd rather pay $25 :)


On 15 Jun 2008, at 10:37, "Jan Bennett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
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John
Apologies for not replying sooner - just checked my records and yes I
bought mine from Amazon.
Regards
Jan

2008/6/9 Gen Searcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

hello Jan

Thanks for your reply, where did you buy your copy?
I saw one on Amazon for £12 90 plus p+p
Regards
John
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John
I'm in the UK and purchased the book about 12 months ago - it
certainly is worth it - makes sense and is very easy to follow
Jan
Shropshire
England

2008/6/8 Gen Searcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

Hello Listers

I have been trawling the web for the book Evidence Explained by  
Elizabeth Shown Mills and can find it only on USA based websites.


Does that mean that UK bookshops do not think it will sell as it  
is to USA centric

Has any UK lister read the book and is it worth getting
John
Manchester
England



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Re: [LegacyUG] Evidence explained by Elizabeth Shown Mills

2008-06-15 Thread Jan Bennett 
John
Apologies for not replying sooner - just checked my records and yes I
bought mine from Amazon.
Regards
Jan

2008/6/9 Gen Searcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> hello Jan
>
> Thanks for your reply, where did you buy your copy?
> I saw one on Amazon for £12 90 plus p+p
> Regards
> John
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>> John
>> I'm in the UK and purchased the book about 12 months ago - it
>> certainly is worth it - makes sense and is very easy to follow
>> Jan
>> Shropshire
>> England
>>
>> 2008/6/8 Gen Searcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>> Hello Listers
>>>
>>> I have been trawling the web for the book Evidence Explained by Elizabeth 
>>> Shown Mills and can find it only on USA based websites.
>>>
>>> Does that mean that UK bookshops do not think it will sell as it is to USA 
>>> centric
>>> Has any UK lister read the book and is it worth getting
>>> John
>>> Manchester
>>> England
>>>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Evidence explained by Elizabeth Shown Mills

2008-06-13 Thread Bill Bienia 
The models shown in Evidence! are not outdated, the elements are just
arranged in a different order (as Ms. Mills acknowledges in Evidence
Explained.) Also, the number of models in Evidence! (even with the
QuickSheet addendum) are not nearly as extensive or as exhaustive as those
in the book Evidence Explained. Note: the models in QuickSheet (First
Revised Edition, 2007) are formatted in accordance with Evidence Explained,
and hence are closely aligned to the Legacy templates.

 

A factor in your selection decision should be about why you are purchasing a
book. If it is for use with Legacy and its Source Writer templates, you
should note that the templates coded in Legacy are coded to match the models
in Evidence Explained, and cannot be tailored to the models in Evidence!
(Although the sources can be overridden to manually make any desired
changes, I don't feel there is any advantage and could be confusing.) If you
are picking up the book to assist with understanding the myriad of citation
models in Legacy, you should seriously consider Evidence Explained. As
others have noted, there is an electronic edition available in PDF format,
which is only slightly more expensive than purchasing Evidence! + QuickSheet
together when you factor in shipping costs. 

 

If you are not using the Source Writer models, and just want a general
reference for citations, either would be a good addition to your library. I
would suggest, though, that if you can find the books in a library, you
should spend an hour or two comparing the models in both books to the
records you have collected (or are considering collecting) and see which
best suits your needs, prior to making the final decision.

 

Bill 

Bill Bienia, PLCGS 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Evidence explained by Elizabeth Shown Mills

2008-06-12 Thread Bob Withers 
The PDF is 3MB and sure beats lugging around a tomb the size of the  
dictionary.


Bob

On Jun 11, 2008, at 3:49 AM, MICHELLE CROSBY wrote:


How much space does the PDF take?
- Original Message -
From: Cathy
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 11:56 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Evidence explained by Elizabeth Shown Mills

Hi all,

Elizabeth Shown Mills in "Evidence Explained" uses established

RE: [LegacyUG] Evidence explained by Elizabeth Shown Mills

2008-06-12 Thread Dave 

I don't think why UK bookstores don't sell the book has anything to do with
Legacy.Let's have a little courtesy for the other subscribers and take
other genealogy discussions to genealogy lists where they're on-topic.




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The book is indeed an add-on to Legacy - just not a software one.


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May I ask what this has to do with the use of Legacy and its add-on's?
The volume of messages on this list is already in overload!



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Hello Listers

I have been trawling the web for the book Evidence Explained by Elizabeth
Shown Mills and can find it only on USA based websites.

Does that mean that UK bookshops do not think it will sell as it is to USA
centric
Has any UK lister read the book and is it worth getting
John
Manchester
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RE: [LegacyUG] Evidence explained by Elizabeth Shown Mills

2008-06-12 Thread Tim Rosenlof 
Legacy 16.00   Amazon 16.00

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RE: [LegacyUG] Evidence explained by Elizabeth Shown Mills

2008-06-12 Thread Kirsten Bowman 
John:

Although the pricing for _Evidence!_ and the Quick Sheet is attractive, I
would caution against choosing them over the more expensive _Evidence
Explained_.  As Geoff posted recently, there are significant changes between
the two books and trying to reconcile the Legacy templates against
_Evidence!_ would be an extremely confusing exercise.  _Evidence!_ is 11
years old and a lot has changed in genealogy, genealogy software, and
sourcing practices in that time.  Best to go with _Evidence Explained_, new,
used, or .pdf.

Kirsten
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  John,

  Is the Software & Books section of Legacy's online store available to you
in the UK? ( http://www.legacyfamilytreestore.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=5 )
If so, you will find Evidence Explained at that location, along with the
quicksheet, and original Mills book.

  Best,

   Denise

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> Hello Listers
>
> I have been trawling the web for the book Evidence Explained by
Elizabeth Shown
> Mills and can find it only on USA based websites.
>
> Does that mean that UK bookshops do not think it will sell as it is to
USA
> centric
> Has any UK lister read the book and is it worth getting
> John
> Manchester
> England




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Re: [LegacyUG] Evidence explained by Elizabeth Shown Mills

2008-06-11 Thread MICHELLE CROSBY 
How much space does the PDF take?
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  Hi all,

  Elizabeth Shown Mills in "Evidence Explained" uses established 
  academic standards to source things but specifically applies them to 
  genealogical sources of all types. In an academic career you won't 
  meet many of these sources - like Gravestones, Family Group Sheets, 
  Postcards, ...

  A preponderance of her examples are drawn from the US and she 
  certainly understands those sources better but she doesn't ignore the 
  rest of the world and her suggestions should be considered and her 
  principles followed for high standard sourcing.

  The cheapest way to get her book is to get the PDF from footnote.com
  I know that in preparing the Source Writer, Geoff has had a lot of 
  contact with her and they are identified a number of errors in the 
  book. I don't know whether a corrected version is yet available.
  The advantage of a PDF is that it sits on your computer and can be 
  easily searched with the search in your PDF reader.

  Cathy


  At 09:55 PM 9/06/2008, you wrote:
  >John,
  >
  >According to other posts here from those who may know about such
  >things (Ron Ferguson, for e.g.)  the book is pretty-much US-centric.
  >
  >You can however purchase it (if you wish) from the legacy family tree
  >store 
(http://www.legacyfamilytreestore.com/?Click=1440<http://www.legacyfamilytreestore.com/?Click=1440>),
 click the
  >"Software and Books" link in the menu on the left of screen, and the
  >first option on screen is to "Evidence Explained: Citing History
  >Sources from Artifacts to Cyberspace". It costs USD71.95 including
  >shipping (or postage and packing as we say!)   That is approx EUR46 or
  >GBP36.40).
  >
  >There may be others on the list who will tell you more about whether
  >or not it is of much use for non-US sources, as I'm not necessarily
  >the best sourcer!  The source writer on deluxe version of Legacy v7,
  >however, will help create these sources to this standard if you
  >require that, or you can ignore the source writer, and override with
  >your own preferred options, if you like.
  >
  >Regards,
  >
  >Dermot.
  >
  >
  >2008/6/8 Gen Searcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>:
  > > Hello Listers
  > >
  > > I have been trawling the web for the book Evidence Explained by 
  > Elizabeth Shown Mills and can find it only on USA based websites.
  > >
  > > Does that mean that UK bookshops do not think it will sell as it 
  > is to USA centric
  > > Has any UK lister read the book and is it worth getting
  > > John
  > > Manchester
  > > England
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RE: [LegacyUG] Evidence explained by Elizabeth Shown Mills

2008-06-11 Thread Tim Rosenlof 
http://www.amazon.com/Evidence-Citation-Analysis-Family-Historian/dp/080
6315431/ref=cm_lmf_img_2_rsrssi0  is the one I bought year or so ago. It
was the new one at the time. I do apologize for not checking

Tim

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> 
> For those interested, the online version of 'Evidence 
> Explained' can be bought at 
> http://www.footnote.com/evidenceexplained.php for $24.95 
> (half the price of the hard back copy).
> 
> I have to say I would not normally put a link like this on 
> the Legacy user group, but as Legacy seems to have designed 
> aspects of Version 7 around the Elizabeth Shown Mills method 
> (from what I have heard people say), I feel justified in 
> posting this link.
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> David
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> On 8 Jun 2008 at 14:54, Gen Searcher 
>  
> wrote:
> 
> > Does that mean that UK bookshops do not think it will sell 
> as it is to 
> > USA
> centric
> > Has any UK lister read the book and is it worth getting
> 
> I am also interested in this question as I am contemplating 
> buying it. FYI - there is a 
> website something like footnotes.com which is selling the pdf 
> version for US$24 which 
> is a lot cheaper than having to pay US$50 for the paper copy 
> plus shipping to the other 
> side of the world.
> 
> Dave
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Re: [LegacyUG] Evidence explained by Elizabeth Shown Mills

2008-06-11 Thread Jenny M Benson 


 wrote
Is the Software & Books section of Legacy's online store available to 
you in the UK? ( 
http://www.legacyfamilytreestore.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=5 ) If so, 
you will find Evidence Explained at that location, along with the 
quicksheet, and original Mills book.


I had forgotten, when I responded to another poster about this book, 
that the Legacy Shop stocked it.  When reminded so by Shelley I checked 
it out but found that actually (at to-day conversion rate) it is 
marginally cheaper (by about £2-odd) to buy from Amazon.

--
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Re: [LegacyUG] Evidence explained by Elizabeth Shown Mills

2008-06-11 Thread Dee 
You can also buy the pdf version from footnote.com -- costs less, and weighs
less!

Dee Whiting

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>
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> Shown Mills and can find it only on USA based websites.
>
> Does that mean that UK bookshops do not think it will sell as it is to USA
> centric
> Has any UK lister read the book and is it worth getting
> John
> Manchester
> England
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RE: [LegacyUG] Evidence explained by Elizabeth Shown Mills

2008-06-11 Thread ronald ferguson 

Now that, Michelle, I do agree with!


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> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 08:05:24 -0400
>
> Even though Ms. Mills way of citing sources isn't globally known or
> accepted, the most important thing is making sure that your citations are
> CONSISTENT and that is why she wrote the book in the first place. As long
> as you are using a CONSISTENT system then just stick with what you use. Ms.
> Mills took the best of several different systems to make something that
> would work for all of the unique things that genealogists cite (like census
> records).
>
> Here in the US, Ms .Mills' system has been the format used by most
> professional genealogists though not everyone adheres to it and that is ok.
> Consistency is the most important thing along with making sure you record
> enough information that someone that comes behind you would be able to
> easily find the source you cited.
>
> I also adhere to Ms. Mills' formats in her book "Professional Genealogy" in
> regard to the way reports are written. Again, it is consistency that is
> important. If you do it the same way every time is it less likely you will
> forget something.
>
> Michele
>

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Re: [LegacyUG] Evidence explained by Elizabeth Shown Mills

2008-06-11 Thread Gen Searcher 
Hello Dermot
Thanks for your email
I think I will stick to doing my own way and save the cost of the book
Regards
John
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> John,
> 
> According to other posts here from those who may know about such
> things (Ron Ferguson, for e.g.)  the book is pretty-much US-centric.
> 
> You can however purchase it (if you wish) from the legacy family tree
> store (http://www.legacyfamilytreestore.com/?Click=1440), click the
> "Software and Books" link in the menu on the left of screen, and the
> first option on screen is to "Evidence Explained: Citing History
> Sources from Artifacts to Cyberspace". It costs USD71.95 including
> shipping (or postage and packing as we say!)   That is approx EUR46 or
> GBP36.40).
> 
> There may be others on the list who will tell you more about whether
> or not it is of much use for non-US sources, as I'm not necessarily
> the best sourcer!  The source writer on deluxe version of Legacy v7,
> however, will help create these sources to this standard if you
> require that, or you can ignore the source writer, and override with
> your own preferred options, if you like.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Dermot.
> 
> 
> 2008/6/8 Gen Searcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Hello Listers
>>
>> I have been trawling the web for the book Evidence Explained by Elizabeth 
>> Shown Mills and can find it only on USA based websites.
>>
>> Does that mean that UK bookshops do not think it will sell as it is to USA 
>> centric
>> Has any UK lister read the book and is it worth getting
>> John
>> Manchester
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Re: [LegacyUG] Evidence explained by Elizabeth Shown Mills

2008-06-11 Thread Michele Lewis 
Even though Ms. Mills way of citing sources isn't globally known or 
accepted, the most important thing is making sure that your citations are 
CONSISTENT and that is why she wrote the book in the first place.  As long 
as you are using a CONSISTENT system then just stick with what you use.  Ms. 
Mills took the best of several different systems to make something that 
would work for all of the unique things that genealogists cite (like census 
records).


Here in the US, Ms .Mills' system has been the format used by most 
professional genealogists though not everyone adheres to it and that is ok. 
Consistency is the most important thing along with making sure you record 
enough information that someone that comes behind you would be able to 
easily find the source you cited.


I also adhere to Ms. Mills' formats in her book "Professional Genealogy" in 
regard to the way reports are written.  Again, it is consistency that is 
important.  If you do it the same way every time is it less likely you will 
forget something.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Evidence explained by Elizabeth Shown Mills

2008-06-11 Thread Gen Searcher 
Hello Denise
I think I will hold off from buying the book and see How I go on with Version 7
Regards
John
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> John,
> 
> Is the Software & Books section of Legacy's online store available to you in 
> the UK? ( http://www.legacyfamilytreestore.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=5 ) If 
> so, you will find Evidence Explained at that location, along with the 
> quicksheet, and original Mills book.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Denise
> 
> -- Original message -- 
> From: "Gen Searcher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> 
>> Hello Listers 
>> 
>> I have been trawling the web for the book Evidence Explained by Elizabeth 
>> Shown 
>> Mills and can find it only on USA based websites. 
>> 
>> Does that mean that UK bookshops do not think it will sell as it is to USA 
>> centric 
>> Has any UK lister read the book and is it worth getting 
>> John 
>> Manchester 
>> England



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Re: [LegacyUG] Evidence explained by Elizabeth Shown Mills

2008-06-11 Thread Thomas Herson 
The source templates in Legacy are based on this book. And the book is 
referred to in the manual and on the training videos.


Lighten up.

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May I ask what this has to do with the use of Legacy and its add-on's?
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I have been trawling the web for the book Evidence Explained by Elizabeth
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Does that mean that UK bookshops do not think it will sell as it is to USA
centric
Has any UK lister read the book and is it worth getting
John
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Re: [LegacyUG] Evidence explained by Elizabeth Shown Mills

2008-06-11 Thread Cathy 

Hi all,

Elizabeth Shown Mills in "Evidence Explained" uses established 
academic standards to source things but specifically applies them to 
genealogical sources of all types. In an academic career you won't 
meet many of these sources - like Gravestones, Family Group Sheets, 
Postcards, ...


A preponderance of her examples are drawn from the US and she 
certainly understands those sources better but she doesn't ignore the 
rest of the world and her suggestions should be considered and her 
principles followed for high standard sourcing.


The cheapest way to get her book is to get the PDF from footnote.com
I know that in preparing the Source Writer, Geoff has had a lot of 
contact with her and they are identified a number of errors in the 
book. I don't know whether a corrected version is yet available.
The advantage of a PDF is that it sits on your computer and can be 
easily searched with the search in your PDF reader.


Cathy


At 09:55 PM 9/06/2008, you wrote:

John,

According to other posts here from those who may know about such
things (Ron Ferguson, for e.g.)  the book is pretty-much US-centric.

You can however purchase it (if you wish) from the legacy family tree
store (http://www.legacyfamilytreestore.com/?Click=1440), click the
"Software and Books" link in the menu on the left of screen, and the
first option on screen is to "Evidence Explained: Citing History
Sources from Artifacts to Cyberspace". It costs USD71.95 including
shipping (or postage and packing as we say!)   That is approx EUR46 or
GBP36.40).

There may be others on the list who will tell you more about whether
or not it is of much use for non-US sources, as I'm not necessarily
the best sourcer!  The source writer on deluxe version of Legacy v7,
however, will help create these sources to this standard if you
require that, or you can ignore the source writer, and override with
your own preferred options, if you like.

Regards,

Dermot.


2008/6/8 Gen Searcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hello Listers
>
> I have been trawling the web for the book Evidence Explained by 
Elizabeth Shown Mills and can find it only on USA based websites.

>
> Does that mean that UK bookshops do not think it will sell as it 
is to USA centric

> Has any UK lister read the book and is it worth getting
> John
> Manchester
> England
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Re: [LegacyUG] Evidence explained by Elizabeth Shown Mills

2008-06-10 Thread Gen Searcher 
Hello Kirsten and Sherry (Support)
Thanks for you advice and opinions
Regards
John
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> John:
> 
> I've read _Evidence Explained_ and don't think it's all that US-centric.
> There are census formats for Australia, Canada, England, France, Germany,
> Italy, Spain, Sweden, and Wales.  There are also Index listings for records
> of each of these countries (i.e. "Australia, records of") as well as Israel
> and Ireland and possibly others although I didn't do an exhaustive search.
> Source citations for things like Family Bibles, correspondence, heirlooms,
> or LDS records should apply across the board.  Perhaps you could find or
> order a copy through your library and check to see if it seems helpful.
> 
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> 
> 
> Hello Listers
> 
> I have been trawling the web for the book Evidence Explained by Elizabeth
> Shown Mills and can find it only on USA based websites.
> 
> Does that mean that UK bookshops do not think it will sell as it is to USA
> centric
> Has any UK lister read the book and is it worth getting
> John
> Manchester
> England
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Re: [LegacyUG] Evidence explained by Elizabeth Shown Mills

2008-06-10 Thread Dermot McGlone 
John,

According to other posts here from those who may know about such
things (Ron Ferguson, for e.g.)  the book is pretty-much US-centric.

You can however purchase it (if you wish) from the legacy family tree
store (http://www.legacyfamilytreestore.com/?Click=1440), click the
"Software and Books" link in the menu on the left of screen, and the
first option on screen is to "Evidence Explained: Citing History
Sources from Artifacts to Cyberspace". It costs USD71.95 including
shipping (or postage and packing as we say!)   That is approx EUR46 or
GBP36.40).

There may be others on the list who will tell you more about whether
or not it is of much use for non-US sources, as I'm not necessarily
the best sourcer!  The source writer on deluxe version of Legacy v7,
however, will help create these sources to this standard if you
require that, or you can ignore the source writer, and override with
your own preferred options, if you like.

Regards,

Dermot.


2008/6/8 Gen Searcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hello Listers
>
> I have been trawling the web for the book Evidence Explained by Elizabeth 
> Shown Mills and can find it only on USA based websites.
>
> Does that mean that UK bookshops do not think it will sell as it is to USA 
> centric
> Has any UK lister read the book and is it worth getting
> John
> Manchester
> England
>
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Evidence explained by Elizabeth Shown Mills

2008-06-10 Thread music-line 
For those interested, the online version of 'Evidence Explained' can be
bought at http://www.footnote.com/evidenceexplained.php for $24.95 (half the
price of the hard back copy).

I have to say I would not normally put a link like this on the Legacy user
group, but as Legacy seems to have designed aspects of Version 7 around the
Elizabeth Shown Mills method (from what I have heard people say), I feel
justified in posting this link.

Best wishes

David

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On 8 Jun 2008 at 14:54, Gen Searcher  
wrote:

> Does that mean that UK bookshops do not think it will sell as it is to USA
centric
> Has any UK lister read the book and is it worth getting

I am also interested in this question as I am contemplating buying it. FYI -
there is a 
website something like footnotes.com which is selling the pdf version for
US$24 which 
is a lot cheaper than having to pay US$50 for the paper copy plus shipping
to the other 
side of the world.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Evidence explained by Elizabeth Shown Mills

2008-06-10 Thread Jenny M Benson 




I have been trawling the web for the book Evidence Explained by Elizabeth Shown 
Mills and can find it only on USA based
websites.


You can get it through Amazon.co.uk.  It is actually cheaper (although 
still expensive by my standards!) to buy a new copy which will be 
dispatched from the US than to buy a used copy which will be dispatched 
from the UK!



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RE: [LegacyUG] Evidence explained by Elizabeth Shown Mills

2008-06-10 Thread Kirsten Bowman 
John:

I've read _Evidence Explained_ and don't think it's all that US-centric.
There are census formats for Australia, Canada, England, France, Germany,
Italy, Spain, Sweden, and Wales.  There are also Index listings for records
of each of these countries (i.e. "Australia, records of") as well as Israel
and Ireland and possibly others although I didn't do an exhaustive search.
Source citations for things like Family Bibles, correspondence, heirlooms,
or LDS records should apply across the board.  Perhaps you could find or
order a copy through your library and check to see if it seems helpful.

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Hello Listers

I have been trawling the web for the book Evidence Explained by Elizabeth
Shown Mills and can find it only on USA based websites.

Does that mean that UK bookshops do not think it will sell as it is to USA
centric
Has any UK lister read the book and is it worth getting
John
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Re: [LegacyUG] Evidence explained by Elizabeth Shown Mills

2008-06-10 Thread Gen Searcher 
Dave
I saw a copy on Amazon the £12.90p (GBP)
I will think of buying it if enough people tell me its worth it.
At the moment I have had one who thinks it is
Regards
John
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> On 8 Jun 2008 at 14:54, Gen Searcher  
> wrote:
> 
>> Does that mean that UK bookshops do not think it will sell as it is to USA 
>> centric
>> Has any UK lister read the book and is it worth getting
> 
> I am also interested in this question as I am contemplating buying it. FYI - 
> there is a 
> website something like footnotes.com which is selling the pdf version for 
> US$24 which 
> is a lot cheaper than having to pay US$50 for the paper copy plus shipping to 
> the other 
> side of the world.
> 
> Dave
> 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Evidence explained by Elizabeth Shown Mills

2008-06-10 Thread Dave 

May I ask what this has to do with the use of Legacy and its add-on's?
The volume of messages on this list is already in overload!



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I have been trawling the web for the book Evidence Explained by Elizabeth
Shown Mills and can find it only on USA based websites.

Does that mean that UK bookshops do not think it will sell as it is to USA
centric
Has any UK lister read the book and is it worth getting
John
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Re: [LegacyUG] Evidence explained by Elizabeth Shown Mills

2008-06-10 Thread d . mossfritch 
John,

Is the Software & Books section of Legacy's online store available to you in 
the UK? ( http://www.legacyfamilytreestore.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=5 ) If so, 
you will find Evidence Explained at that location, along with the quicksheet, 
and original Mills book.

Best,

 Denise

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> Hello Listers 
> 
> I have been trawling the web for the book Evidence Explained by Elizabeth 
> Shown 
> Mills and can find it only on USA based websites. 
> 
> Does that mean that UK bookshops do not think it will sell as it is to USA 
> centric 
> Has any UK lister read the book and is it worth getting 
> John 
> Manchester 
> England

Re: [LegacyUG] Evidence explained by Elizabeth Shown Mills

2008-06-09 Thread JD Liddil 
Footnote.com has it as a downloadable pdf file.

JD

On 6/8/08, Gen Searcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello Listers
>
> I have been trawling the web for the book Evidence Explained by Elizabeth 
> Shown Mills and can find it only on USA based websites.
>
> Does that mean that UK bookshops do not think it will sell as it is to USA 
> centric
> Has any UK lister read the book and is it worth getting
> John
> Manchester
> England
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Evidence explained by Elizabeth Shown Mills

2008-06-09 Thread david 
On 8 Jun 2008 at 14:54, Gen Searcher  
wrote:

> Does that mean that UK bookshops do not think it will sell as it is to USA 
> centric
> Has any UK lister read the book and is it worth getting

I am also interested in this question as I am contemplating buying it. FYI - 
there is a 
website something like footnotes.com which is selling the pdf version for US$24 
which 
is a lot cheaper than having to pay US$50 for the paper copy plus shipping to 
the other 
side of the world.

Dave



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Re: [LegacyUG] Evidence explained by Elizabeth Shown Mills

2008-06-09 Thread Gen Searcher 
hello Jan

Thanks for your reply, where did you buy your copy?
I saw one on Amazon for £12 90 plus p+p
Regards
John
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> John
> I'm in the UK and purchased the book about 12 months ago - it
> certainly is worth it - makes sense and is very easy to follow
> Jan
> Shropshire
> England
> 
> 2008/6/8 Gen Searcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Hello Listers
>>
>> I have been trawling the web for the book Evidence Explained by Elizabeth 
>> Shown Mills and can find it only on USA based websites.
>>
>> Does that mean that UK bookshops do not think it will sell as it is to USA 
>> centric
>> Has any UK lister read the book and is it worth getting
>> John
>> Manchester
>> England
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Re: [LegacyUG] Evidence explained by Elizabeth Shown Mills

2008-06-09 Thread Jan Bennett 
John
I'm in the UK and purchased the book about 12 months ago - it
certainly is worth it - makes sense and is very easy to follow
Jan
Shropshire
England

2008/6/8 Gen Searcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hello Listers
>
> I have been trawling the web for the book Evidence Explained by Elizabeth 
> Shown Mills and can find it only on USA based websites.
>
> Does that mean that UK bookshops do not think it will sell as it is to USA 
> centric
> Has any UK lister read the book and is it worth getting
> John
> Manchester
> England
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