Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.0 Any master note area that applys to whole database file
I certainly started in much the way Bruce describes. I had a number of short pieces of information which were general in nature. I created a ToDo item for each and made the Category , Information. I then had a filter option to show just the Information category items so that clicking on Apply Filter showed me that list. What I found though was that eventually I was collecting pieces of information that required files external to Legacy and this was when I started to build dummy repositories which were really just there to contain the URL pointer to the file, in their Homepage setting , hence giving me a way of referencing the file from within Legacy. So my use of Tiddlywiki is just a development of that process. The main aim is to keep Legacy as the control as it has the database of Individuals and Locations which I am researching so provides the ideal index to these research files. I did find that any research information I had on Locations could not be dealt with in the same way as the Master Location list does not contain anywhere like a Homepage to place the URL pointer. So the alternative I used was to create a URL file from a Bookmark , which can be edited with Notepad to change the URL as appropriate and the file renamed accordingly , remembering to keep the extension as .url. Then that file can be added to the Picture Gallery of a Master Location , entitled Research notes, and when double clicked or invoked with Play will call up the file with the appropriate research notes. Rick Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] He/She was usually called
On 09/09/2010 17:36, thegenealogy...@hotmail.com wrote: Is there any way to use the name in quotes (Elizabeth Lizzie Jones) in a narrative report, without having the report generate the sentence She was usually called Lizzie.? This sentence seems too repetitive since it's obvious that she was usually called Lizzie because the narrative uses Lizzie. Is there a setting I'm overlooking to get rid of that sentence? Not that I'm aware of. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Citing DNA Test Results
Kirsten, If there is a website for the DNA surname project, with kit numbers/id numbers of the person listed, I would use that information and cite it as a website. The most recent published case study that I'm aware of that relies heavily on DNA results is Daniela Moneta's Virginia Pughs and North Carolina Wests: A Genetic Link from Slavery in Kentucky, National Genealogical Society Quarterly 97 (September 2009): 179-194. That article is available online if you are a member of the (US) National Genealogical Society. She mostly uses narrative type footnotes to describe the DNA results. Hope this helps a bit. Connie --- On Sat, 9/18/10, Kirsten Bowman vik...@rvi.net wrote: Has anyone developed a satisfactory source citation format for DNA test results? I'm working with many others on a one-name study. Over two dozen of the men in this group have y-DNA test results to support their paper documentation and prove descent from various sons or grandsons of 2-3 different patriarchs. We've established a Surname Project through FTDNA and a site online through WorldFamilies where results are listed anonymously. Of course I don't want to post anything that would infringe on anyone's privacy but I would like to indicate in my source notes that descendancy from immigrant John Doe is supported by DNA testing. This could be handled with a generic source note and a simple statement in the Detail Text, but has anyone found a better and/or more complete citation format? (This would be a source citation completely separate from the DNA Records section in Legacy.) If you have suggestions, could you post examples--including the template used? Kirsten Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Citing DNA Test Results
Connie: Yes, that helps a great deal. A narrative footnote was just what I had in mind and it's good to know it's already been done in a published work. I will reference the DNA site, but it needs an explanation wrapped around it. Your response gives me confidence about the direction to take. Thanks! Kirsten -Original Message- From: Connie Sheets [mailto:clshee...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 8:29 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Citing DNA Test Results Kirsten, If there is a website for the DNA surname project, with kit numbers/id numbers of the person listed, I would use that information and cite it as a website. The most recent published case study that I'm aware of that relies heavily on DNA results is Daniela Moneta's Virginia Pughs and North Carolina Wests: A Genetic Link from Slavery in Kentucky, National Genealogical Society Quarterly 97 (September 2009): 179-194. That article is available online if you are a member of the (US) National Genealogical Society. She mostly uses narrative type footnotes to describe the DNA results. Hope this helps a bit. Connie --- On Sat, 9/18/10, Kirsten Bowman vik...@rvi.net wrote: Has anyone developed a satisfactory source citation format for DNA test results? I'm working with many others on a one-name study. Over two dozen of the men in this group have y-DNA test results to support their paper documentation and prove descent from various sons or grandsons of 2-3 different patriarchs. We've established a Surname Project through FTDNA and a site online through WorldFamilies where results are listed anonymously. Of course I don't want to post anything that would infringe on anyone's privacy but I would like to indicate in my source notes that descendancy from immigrant John Doe is supported by DNA testing. This could be handled with a generic source note and a simple statement in the Detail Text, but has anyone found a better and/or more complete citation format? (This would be a source citation completely separate from the DNA Records section in Legacy.) If you have suggestions, could you post examples--including the template used? Kirsten Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Source Writer challenge
Good afternoon, all, I have run up against a few challenges, but I will set them out in separate emails so I can keep the subjects straight. I just recently combined two sources into one. The first was created in the basic style, the second with Source Writer. I am now going through and (finally) standardising all 2300 records to the Source Writer template, but I have it a snag, and it's going to continue. There aren't enough Location options. These records are Canadian church records, which means that I have an extra layer in there. Quebec has three St-Michels that I can think of, and without the county included, specifying which one is going to be difficult. So I'm throwing this problem out for suggestions. My initial thought was to do something along the lines of St-Michel [Bellechasse] in the city/town/village line, but I'm not certain that's the way to go. Any alteratives? Once I do these I really don't want to have to re-do them. And France will follow the same pattern, or worse, with between four and six levels. Thanks. Maureen Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Challenge #2: Changing place names
Hello again, all, On to my second challenge. I checked through the archives as best I could, but I just couldn't figure out the best search parameters I guess, so here goes. Much to the diappointment of my DAR friends, my ancestors didn't come to the US until the middle of the 19th century, for the most part. They stayed in Canada (or Ireland, but I haven't found them) until all the major unpleasantness was over with. But that means they were in Canada through all the name and governmental changes. As an example, Louis Bourgois (b 1707) fled the English occupation of Port-Royal, Acadia 1733 and resettled at Fort Ste-Marie, Acadie. There they remained until he and his family round-up of the Acadians in 1755. Louis took the loyalty oath and was allowed to remain in Fort Frederick in Acadia. Louis died just before Fort Frederick was burned to the ground and Fort Howe, Nova Scotia was built to take its place. His children and grandchildren would grow upa and die successively in Fort Howe, New Brunswick and Saint John, Saint John County, New Brunswick. Louis himself doesn't exist, but his situation does, over and over again. The conundrum I find myself with is this: Does anyone (or everyone) track these changes, or do you go with the standardised, modern place names for most places outside the US? I know that sound US-centric to those of you outside the US, but I only ask because of the county reminder thing-a-ma-bob. Thanks for your input. Maureen Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Challenge #2: Changing place names
I try (not always successfully) to keep to the name of the place at the time of the event G Eliz On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Maureen Lake arespo...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello again, all, On to my second challenge. I checked through the archives as best I could, but I just couldn't figure out the best search parameters I guess, so here goes. Much to the diappointment of my DAR friends, my ancestors didn't come to the US until the middle of the 19th century, for the most part. They stayed in Canada (or Ireland, but I haven't found them) until all the major unpleasantness was over with. But that means they were in Canada through all the name and governmental changes. As an example, Louis Bourgois (b 1707) fled the English occupation of Port-Royal, Acadia 1733 and resettled at Fort Ste-Marie, Acadie. There they remained until he and his family round-up of the Acadians in 1755. Louis took the loyalty oath and was allowed to remain in Fort Frederick in Acadia. Louis died just before Fort Frederick was burned to the ground and Fort Howe, Nova Scotia was built to take its place. His children and grandchildren would grow upa and die successively in Fort Howe, New Brunswick and Saint John, Saint John County, New Brunswick. Louis himself doesn't exist, but his situation does, over and over again. The conundrum I find myself with is this: Does anyone (or everyone) track these changes, or do you go with the standardised, modern place names for most places outside the US? I know that sound US-centric to those of you outside the US, but I only ask because of the county reminder thing-a-ma-bob. Thanks for your input. Maureen Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer challenge
Maureen, I'm sure listers are furiously typing at this moment that you need not be a slave to the suggestion of 4 positions in a location. Many discussions in the list archives. As for your example, why not do as the Quebecers do: either Saint Michel de Bellechasse or Saint-Michel-de-Bellechasse? I see that the Legacy Geo Location database is not very helpful, as a search turns up Saint-Michel, , Québec, Canada. If you put Bellechasse in the county position, the search comes up blank. In fact, counties seem to be totally ignored for Canada. Wikipedia says that Bellechasse is a regional county municipality, so it would seem reasonable to create a location as either Saint-Michel, Bellechasse, Québec, Canada or Saint-Michel-de-Bellechasse, , Québec, Canada. Experiment with how you will want to sort your eventual location list, including reverse order. Ward - Original Message - From: Maureen Lake arespo...@yahoo.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 5:03 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] Source Writer challenge Good afternoon, all, I have run up against a few challenges, but I will set them out in separate emails so I can keep the subjects straight. I just recently combined two sources into one. The first was created in the basic style, the second with Source Writer. I am now going through and (finally) standardising all 2300 records to the Source Writer template, but I have it a snag, and it's going to continue. There aren't enough Location options. These records are Canadian church records, which means that I have an extra layer in there. Quebec has three St-Michels that I can think of, and without the county included, specifying which one is going to be difficult. So I'm throwing this problem out for suggestions. My initial thought was to do something along the lines of St-Michel [Bellechasse] in the city/town/village line, but I'm not certain that's the way to go. Any alteratives? Once I do these I really don't want to have to re-do them. And France will follow the same pattern, or worse, with between four and six levels. Thanks. Maureen Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Challenge #2: Changing place names
On 22/09/2010 23:21, Maureen Lake wrote: The conundrum I find myself with is this: Does anyone (or everyone) track these changes, or do you go with the standardised, modern place names for most places outside the US? I know that sound US-centric to those of you outside the US, but I only ask because of the county reminder thing-a-ma-bob. This is one which frequently crops up on LUG. Personally, I believe it is correct to record place names as they were at the time of the event and I think most people would agree with me. If you wish, you can use the Location Notes field to record how that placename has changed over the years. Incidentally, it's not a US-centric thing: lots of countries have boundary changes at all levels - town, county, state, country - for all sorts of reasons. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Challenge #2: Changing place names
Include British parishes in that and you can really go crazy G Eliz On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 7:01 PM, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote: On 22/09/2010 23:21, Maureen Lake wrote: The conundrum I find myself with is this: Does anyone (or everyone) track these changes, or do you go with the standardised, modern place names for most places outside the US? I know that sound US-centric to those of you outside the US, but I only ask because of the county reminder thing-a-ma-bob. This is one which frequently crops up on LUG. Personally, I believe it is correct to record place names as they were at the time of the event and I think most people would agree with me. If you wish, you can use the Location Notes field to record how that placename has changed over the years. Incidentally, it's not a US-centric thing: lots of countries have boundary changes at all levels - town, county, state, country - for all sorts of reasons. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer challenge
On 22/09/2010 22:03, Maureen Lake wrote: I have run up against a few challenges, but I will set them out in separate emails so I can keep the subjects straight. I just recently combined two sources into one. The first was created in the basic style, the second with Source Writer. I am now going through and (finally) standardising all 2300 records to the Source Writer template, but I have it a snag, and it's going to continue. There aren't enough Location options. These records are Canadian church records, which means that I have an extra layer in there. Quebec has three St-Michels that I can think of, and without the county included, specifying which one is going to be difficult. You don't see which SourceWriter template you are referring to, but in fact is doesn't really matter. Just because a template field is named Town, for example, doesn't mean you have to only put the town name in that field or even that you have to fill that field at all if you don't want to. Likewise, if it's named something like Name of Church and the next field is, say, County there's no reason why you can't enter St Someone's Church, Anytown in the first field. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer challenge
-- From: Maureen Lake arespo...@yahoo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 10:03 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Source Writer challenge Good afternoon, all, I have run up against a few challenges, but I will set them out in separate emails so I can keep the subjects straight. I just recently combined two sources into one. The first was created in the basic style, the second with Source Writer. I am now going through and (finally) standardising all 2300 records to the Source Writer template, but I have it a snag, and it's going to continue. There aren't enough Location options. These records are Canadian church records, which means that I have an extra layer in there. Quebec has three St-Michels that I can think of, and without the county included, specifying which one is going to be difficult. So I'm throwing this problem out for suggestions. My initial thought was to do something along the lines of St-Michel [Bellechasse] in the city/town/village line, but I'm not certain that's the way to go. Any alteratives? Once I do these I really don't want to have to re-do them. And France will follow the same pattern, or worse, with between four and six levels. Thanks. Maureen Maureen, As others have suggested, you don't need to just put in a box what the name of the box indicates. Where it has, say, a box for the name of a church, the name of the road it is on could also be included etc. Just decide for yourself what feels right for you and use that format. However, it is not a problem I have since I almost invariably leave all those boxes empty. In the location field for, say, a Christening Event, I would include the name of the church and the full address (if I have it), and I see no point in including the same information in the Source. I know that this goes completely against the so called 4 field convention, but that does work for GB anyhow, and, I believe, for much of Canada as well. As has been said setting the Location Field to read from right to left means that the locations are easy to look up when needed. Basically what I am saying is: do what fits, is accurate and makes sense for others to follow, and above all what is comfortable for yourself. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer challenge
I think Jenny has highlighted the point - the places in SourceWriter do not end up in the Location List - they are just text. You only need to be constrained to the Location format when the data is going to end up in the Location List. Cheers, Brett BMcL Robinson, Hamilton 3240, New Zealand - Original Message - From: Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer challenge On 22/09/2010 22:03, Maureen Lake wrote: I have run up against a few challenges, but I will set them out in separate emails so I can keep the subjects straight. I just recently combined two sources into one. The first was created in the basic style, the second with Source Writer. I am now going through and (finally) standardising all 2300 records to the Source Writer template, but I have it a snag, and it's going to continue. There aren't enough Location options. These records are Canadian church records, which means that I have an extra layer in there. Quebec has three St-Michels that I can think of, and without the county included, specifying which one is going to be difficult. You don't see which SourceWriter template you are referring to, but in fact is doesn't really matter. Just because a template field is named Town, for example, doesn't mean you have to only put the town name in that field or even that you have to fill that field at all if you don't want to. Likewise, if it's named something like Name of Church and the next field is, say, County there's no reason why you can't enter St Someone's Church, Anytown in the first field. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer challenge
I see that the Legacy GeoLocation database is not very helpful, as a search turns up Saint-Michel, , Québec, Canada. If you put Bellechasse in the county position, the search comes up blank. In fact, counties seem to be totally ignored for Canada. Wikipedia says that Bellechasse is a regional county municipality, so it would seem reasonable to create a location as either Saint-Michel, Bellechasse, Québec, Canada or Saint-Michel-de-Bellechasse, , Québec, Canada. Experiment with how you will want to sort your eventual location list, including reverse order. Ward Ward, This goes to my second question of the day, about location name changes. The Bellechasse county designation no longer exists. So this adds another layer to my question. Place at the time, or place now? Maureen Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
