[LegacyUG] Unsplit MasterSource

2011-08-04 Thread Howlanddavisii
Listers:


I have seen the light as far as lumping and splitting goes or maybe I 
was over splitting.  Anyway, I had a separate master source for each Social 
Security Death Index source.  I now want to have one master source and then 
have separate detail information (the way it should be, I think).
My question is how to combine the master sources.  I have gone through 
them and moved the text and multimedia over to the detail, etc., so that the 
Master Source is the same (at least s far as I can see) but, when I request 
that duplicate sources be combined, I am told that there are no duplicates.
I do not want a list of master sources showing SSDI; I want one.  How 
do I delete/combine the master sources?  Can I combine them?  What have I done 
wrong other than performing a over-split from the beginning?


Howland Davis








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Re: [LegacyUG] Unsplit MasterSource

2011-08-04 Thread Jerry
I'm thinking that if you simply removed the details and put them in the
source detail to remain with the person, does the system really know
that the sources that remain are identical?   Since they were created as
separate entities, I'm wondering if Legacy is really going to treat them
as duplicates, even if they say the same thing?  You might have to use
the COMBINE function at the bottom of the list, but to do that you've
got quite a few to go through.  Maybe someone will come up with
something better.--Jerry / http://www.MerriamFamilyTree.org/

On 8/4/2011 9:40 AM, Howlanddavisii wrote:
 Listers:

 I have seen the light as far as lumping and splitting goes or maybe I
 was over splitting.  Anyway, I had a separate master source for each
 Social Security Death Index source.  I now want to have one master
 source and then have separate detail information (the way it should
 be, I think).
 My question is how to combine the master sources.  I have gone through
 them and moved the text and multimedia over to the detail, etc., so
 that the Master Source is the same (at least s far as I can see) but,
 when I request that duplicate sources be combined, I am told that
 there are no duplicates.
 I do not want a list of master sources showing SSDI; I want one.  How
 do I delete/combine the master sources?  Can I combine them?  What
 have I done wrong other than performing a over-split from the beginning?

 Howland Davis




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Re: [LegacyUG] Unsplit MasterSource

2011-08-04 Thread Brian/Support
If Legacy does not recognize your edited Master Sources as duplicates
you will have to manually combine the multiple sources.

Go to View  Master Lists  Sources
Highlight all the duplicate SSDI sources, do not highlight the source
you want to keep
With all the duplicates highlighted click on the Combine highlighted
source ... button in the bottom of the screen
The label will change to Highlight destination source, then click this
button.
Highlight the source you did not select earlier and click the button.
If all the SSDI sources use the same SourceWriter template they will be
combined. If they use different templates you cannot combine them and
Legacy will offer to add the template ID column to the list so you can
see what template each master source used.
You will be able to combine all the SSDI sources that use the same
template but you will have to manually add the Master SSDI source to
those who use an SSDI source with another template then remove the old
SSDI source from them.

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On 04/08/2011 9:40 AM, Howlanddavisii wrote:
 Listers:

   I have seen the light as far as lumping and splitting goes or maybe I 
 was over splitting.  Anyway, I had a separate master source for each Social 
 Security Death Index source.  I now want to have one master source and then 
 have separate detail information (the way it should be, I think).
   My question is how to combine the master sources.  I have gone through 
 them and moved the text and multimedia over to the detail, etc., so that the 
 Master Source is the same (at least s far as I can see) but, when I request 
 that duplicate sources be combined, I am told that there are no duplicates.
   I do not want a list of master sources showing SSDI; I want one.  How 
 do I delete/combine the master sources?  Can I combine them?  What have I 
 done wrong other than performing a over-split from the beginning?

 Howland Davis


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[LegacyUG] storing in the cloud

2011-08-04 Thread Cheryl Rothwell
What files are needed to run the program? I am preparing to travel and am
thinking about putting them in a program like Sugar Sync. In the Magic
Briefcase the files would remain in sync and be accessible wherever I am.

It's obviously the .fdb and .tc files. Are there any others?

Are there reasons this might be a bad idea? Any other thoughts on this idea?

Cheryl


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Re: [LegacyUG] storing in the cloud

2011-08-04 Thread Connie Sheets
Cheryl,

I'm not familiar with Sugar Sync, but if it's anything like Dropbox, the only 
thing I've done is make sure I have the latest version of Legacy installed on 
both my desktop and the netbook I take with me to travel, plus the fdb file on 
Dropbox.  (I'm less fussy about the tc files than a lot of people; I just reset 
my options as needed, although since I set Dropbox as my default path, that 
hasn't been an issue).

Just make sure you don't leave Legacy open on your desktop when you leave home.

It's not a bad idea at all; IMO, it's the only way to function (although I also 
make physical backups periodically as well).

Connie

--- On Thu, 8/4/11, Cheryl Rothwell historysle...@gmail.com wrote:
What files are needed to run the program? I am preparing to travel and am 
thinking about putting them in a program like Sugar Sync. In the Magic 
Briefcase the files would remain in sync and be accessible wherever I am.

It's obviously the .fdb and .tc files. Are there any others? 

Are there reasons this might be a bad idea? Any other thoughts on this idea?




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Re: [LegacyUG] storing in the cloud

2011-08-04 Thread Ron Ferguson
Cheryl,

I do not know Sugar Sync, so cannot comment on whether it will work or if there 
are any snags, but like many other users I use Dropbox and have had no problems 
with it.

I only bother with the fdb files, if, however, I was using the ToDo files as a 
basis for doing research then are would include those USR files as well.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk


From: Cheryl Rothwell
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 7:14 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] storing in the cloud

What files are needed to run the program? I am preparing to travel and am 
thinking about putting them in a program like Sugar Sync. In the Magic 
Briefcase the files would remain in sync and be accessible wherever I am.


It's obviously the .fdb and .tc files. Are there any others?


Are there reasons this might be a bad idea? Any other thoughts on this idea?



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Re: [LegacyUG] Unsplit MasterSource

2011-08-04 Thread Jenny M Benson
On 04/08/2011 15:34, Brian/Support wrote:
 Go to View  Master Lists  Sources
 Highlight all the duplicate SSDI sources, do not highlight the source
 you want to keep
 With all the duplicates highlighted click on the Combine highlighted
 source ... button in the bottom of the screen
 The label will change to Highlight destination source, then click this
 button.
 Highlight the source you did not select earlier and click the button.

I don't know why it happens - does anyone else every find this? - but
sometimes when I want to combine Sources the button doesn't change when
I click on it.  I then need to click on Edit, close the screen without
making any changes and click the Combine button again and it works

--
Jenny M Benson


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Re: [LegacyUG] storing in the cloud

2011-08-04 Thread Walt Quering
Cheryl,

I've used both SugarSync and Dropbox for about a year now.  I keep all
of my research, including my Legacy DB files in a folder within the
Magic Briefcase automatically installed by SugarSync in the Windows
Document folder.  Through assorted referrals and non-onerous hoops
through which I have jumped, I've upped my SugarSync storage to about 8
GB.  All of my genealogy files take up only about 3 GB of that space.  I
keep the multi-media files which I have linked to my Legacy DB within
the same folder as my DB.  My very large videos and extensive family
photos are too large to keep within SugarSync, so I have them on a
separate hard drive.

Because Dropbox only allows for 2 GB of free storage, I use that for
other, non-genealogy files.

I love both services.  As soon as I change a file, SugarSync or Dropbox
will immediately sync that change with the file on the Web.  Both have
good security.  I can access files in either service from any computer I
own.  SugarSync is a little more flexible in its set-up and other
services than is Dropbox, but, as long as you're willing to move the
requisite files to the default folder, either will work.

On Monday, I gave a brief presentation on both services, and others, to
a local gen society SIG and used links to a number of review and videos
explaining each.  I would suggest that you check out the Top Ten Reviews
site for information about online storage services.  They reviewed the
pay versions of the storage applications, but the information still
applies.  They have an excellent video about why you should store your
files online (as well as elsewhere) and a video review of SugarSync.
There is also a good video on YouTube about Dropbox.

Hope this helps.

Walt


On 8/4/2011 11:14 AM, Cheryl Rothwell wrote:
 What files are needed to run the program? I am preparing to travel and
 am thinking about putting them in a program like Sugar Sync. In the
 Magic Briefcase the files would remain in sync and be accessible
 wherever I am.

 It's obviously the .fdb and .tc files. Are there any others?

 Are there reasons this might be a bad idea? Any other thoughts on this
 idea?

 Cheryl


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Re: [LegacyUG] Unsplit MasterSource

2011-08-04 Thread Brian/Support
Jenny,

The problem you reported has been tested and is confirmed. A report has
been recorded in our problem tracking system so this can be fixed. Thank
you for helping us make Legacy a better program for everyone.

The problem report number is 3844 if you wish to query the status of
this problem in the future. I must say though that the programmers do
not say when any particular problem will be fixed so all we will be able
to tell you is whether the problem is still outstanding.

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On 04/08/2011 2:41 PM, Jenny M Benson wrote:

 I don't know why it happens - does anyone else every find this? - but
 sometimes when I want to combine Sources the button doesn't change when
 I click on it.  I then need to click on Edit, close the screen without
 making any changes and click the Combine button again and it works



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Re: [LegacyUG] Citing Sources

2011-08-04 Thread Joan Kemp
Dear Jerry,

Many thanks to you and others for their comments.

I have no problem with the difference between a master source record (eg
Birth certificates) and source detail (an individual, specific, birth
certificate).

I thought that I would try and tidy up my records and check that all my
info was cited correctly and systematically organised. Although I have
been using Legacy for at least 10 years, I have never used the 'source
citation'. All my info is under the 'research' tab (in the parlance of
previous threads, I am a 'lumper').

I started with birth certificates  created a master source 'Birth
certificates' under 'Events, Birth'.
I then added all my individual birth certificates - my research notes
tend to say 'have birth cert' without much more info.
This is all fine.  I created a template (in Notepad) which I used to
make sure that all the info was included and in the same order for each
record. (I find this a very useful discipline, particularly with items
such as wills where you need to extract and summarise the core information.)

Moving next to marriage certificates,  there is no 'Marriage' under
'Events'.  Ergo, I want to create an 'Event' called 'Marriage' with a
Master Source 'marriage certificates' and then list the details of
individual marriage certificates along with the details for a given
individual (again, using a template for consistency).  However, I can't
see how to edit 'Events' to include 'Marriage'.  I don't want 'Marriage
to be 'Unspecified' - that seems inappropriate.  Further, I would like
the two individuals who are married to share the same 'Source detail'

Maybe I'm not using the Legacy system in the way it was designed to be
used;  if it gets too messy, I'll just revert to putting all the info
into the 'Research' tab.

All good wishes,

Joan


On 04/08/2011 04:46, Jerry wrote:
 Hi Joan.  Others have already mentioned about the difference between the
 source record and the source detail, but I'll say it a different way.
 The source record is a master record that will be exactly the same for
 every person for whom it is used, whereas the source detail is the
 specific detail about page numbers or what-have-you that could be
 different for every person.   You might already be aware of that, but it
 took me a while, when I first started working with Legacy, to comprehend
 the big distinction.

 The other thing I'm curious about, though, is why you would want to
 place a bunch of details in any master source that contain separate
 items for date of birth, place of birth, name, father, mother, etc. all
 lumped into the one master source, if I understood you correctly.   My
 opinion is that duplicate information that is already a part of the
 record need not be repeated - for example, why repeat a person's name in
 the source detail unless it is a different name, in which case you would
 place that event as an Also Known As (Alias) name and indicate the
 source for that different name.   Obviously, you must have a reason for
 doing what you are doing, but if you lump all that information under one
 master source, then really and truly, it does belong under the
 unspecified category.

 Just my thoughts,
 Jerry Boor / http://www.MerriamFamilyTree.org/

 On 8/3/2011 6:37 PM, Joan Kemp wrote:
 Many thanks for this, but two points;

 How do I create a template?  The only way I seem to be able to do this
 is to name a master source then copy   paste the template details from a
 saved Notepad file.  This is pretty clumsy!

 1. New master source:  Birth certificate
 2. Copy from Notepad:

 Date of Birth:
 Place of Birth:
 Name:
 Father:
 Mother:
 Father's Occupation:
 Signature:
 Reg Date:

 3. Fill in details manually.

 I want to be able to combine 1.   2. above

 I also want to similarly create a new master source called 'Marriage
 certificate' - and change the name from 'unspecified' to 'Marriage'

 Thanks

 Joan



 On 03/08/2011 23:15, Jenny M Benson wrote:
 On 03/08/2011 22:38, Joan Kemp wrote:
 How can you change the name of a source from 'Unspecified'?

 I have set up a new master source as a template for the information
 contained on a standard birth certificate.
 I have called it 'Birth certificate template' but it would be nice if it
 weren't listed as 'Unspecified'
 Unspecified is not the name of a Source.  It is the name of a field that
 you can enter a Source in if you so wish.  If you have a Source in the
 Unspecified field on someone's record you can simply delete it.  On the
 person's Assigned Sources screen, click on the Unspecified field to
 select it and click Remove.
 And how do you remove sources you'll never need, such as LDSB (whatever
 that might be)? - you can always re-create then if eventually needed.
 Either you have created this Source, or you imported it with data from
 someone else.   Provided no person has that Source attached to them you
 can simply delete it from the Source list.  (If it is attached to anyone
 you will need to Remove it from 

Re: [LegacyUG] Citing Sources

2011-08-04 Thread Joan Kemp
Dear Connie,

Thank you for your reply.  On an individual's record (eg Jean Skeet) I
have just clicked on 'Cite a Master Source' (from the 'books' icon
bottom right of a record),
chosen the source I wanted (eg 'Birth certificates'), then added the
source detail (individual birth cert - here for Jean Skeet).  This seems
to have the desired effect of linking that information with the
individual (All the details from Jean Skeet's birth certificate linked
to Jean Skeet).  I'm not sure how you copy anything to the 'Source
Clipboard', nor how you go onto attach the source to an individual.  (I
seem to be doing all this the other way round?)

If the Legacy source citation is too messy, I'll tidy up my info  put
it all under the 'Research' tab.  I was trying to get my sources more
organised  consistent!

Many thanks

Joan


On 03/08/2011 23:17, Connie Sheets wrote:
 Joan,

 I'm a bit confused by your question, but I hope one of these answers will be 
 responsive:

 (1) An unspecified event (not source) is built in to Legacy for every 
 person.  As far as I know, you can't change it.  What you can do, however, is 
 ignore it.

 Make sure you've copied the source to the Source Clipboard, then delete the 
 citation to the Unspecified Event.  Then, attach the source to the event or 
 events you want it attached to, such as Name, Date of Birth, etc.

 (2) If that is not what you're asking, then all you should have to do is 
 rename the source from your Master Source List (Master Source ListEdit).  
 For sources you never use, Master Source ListOptionsPurge Unused.

 Connie

 --- On Wed, 8/3/11, Joan Kempjk...@yahoo.com  wrote:

  How can you change the name of a source from 'Unspecified'?

  I have set up a new master source as a template for the information
  contained on a standard birth certificate.

  I have called it 'Birth certificate template' but it would be nice
  if it weren't listed as 'Unspecified'

  And how do you remove sources you'll never need, such as LDSB
  (whatever that might be)? - you can always re-create then if
  eventually needed.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Citing Sources

2011-08-04 Thread cranberryfrog
Joan,

You said, Moving next to marriage certificates,  there is no 'Marriage'
under
'Events'.  Ergo, I want to create an 'Event' called 'Marriage' with a
Master Source 'marriage certificates' and then list the details of
individual marriage certificates along with the details for a given
individual (again, using a template for consistency).  However, I can't
see how to edit 'Events' to include 'Marriage'.  I don't want 'Marriage
to be 'Unspecified' - that seems inappropriate.  Further, I would like
the two individuals who are married to share the same 'Source detail'

There is an easier way to do this.  The marriage is already listed as an
event of sorts.  You don't have to add an event to the events list.  To
the right of the marriage (where the date/place are recorded) you will see a
marriage sources button, a marriage events button (though I don't use that),
an marriage notes button and a picture gallery button.  All of these pertain
to the marriage specifically.  You can transcribe the entire marriage record
here, you can scan and attach the original document, you can record anything
you want here that pertains to the marriage itself.  I would keep the
marriage info OUT of the main events tab.  There is no reason to tangle them
up.  If I were to use the marriage events icon, I might attach a newspaper
announcement of the engagement, or the wedding announcement.  You can do
whatever you want.  My only advice is, keep the marriage stuff within the
marriage field and don't add marriage events to the main list of events if
that makes sense.

michele



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Re: [LegacyUG] Citing Sources

2011-08-04 Thread Brian/Support
Joan,

You do not have to create a marriage event. There are two ways to link a
source to the marriage:
1. click on the sources Icon beside the marriage information to open the
list of marriage sources
3. scroll the list of events for a person down to the Marr: (spouse
name) and link your source there. There will be one Marr: (spouse name)
entry for each of the person's spouses. Sources attached to that line
will be linked to the marriage of the couple.

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On 04/08/2011 4:44 PM, Joan Kemp wrote:
 Dear Jerry,

 Moving next to marriage certificates,  there is no 'Marriage' under
 'Events'.  Ergo, I want to create an 'Event' called 'Marriage' with a
 Master Source 'marriage certificates' and then list the details of
 individual marriage certificates along with the details for a given
 individual (again, using a template for consistency).  However, I can't
 see how to edit 'Events' to include 'Marriage'.  I don't want 'Marriage
 to be 'Unspecified' - that seems inappropriate.  Further, I would like
 the two individuals who are married to share the same 'Source detail'

 Maybe I'm not using the Legacy system in the way it was designed to be
 used;  if it gets too messy, I'll just revert to putting all the info
 into the 'Research' tab.

 All good wishes,

 Joan


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Re: [LegacyUG] Unsplit MasterSource

2011-08-04 Thread Howlanddavisii
Brian:


Nothing appears to be happening as you stated.  First of all, would you 
remind me how to highlight the sources.  Second, when I click on the Combine 
 button in the bottom of the screen, nothing happens.  Also, there was no 
offer to add the template ID column to the list.


Howland Davis


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To: LegacyUserGroup LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Thu, Aug 4, 2011 6:35 am
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Unsplit MasterSource


If Legacy does not recognize your edited Master Sources as duplicates
you will have to manually combine the multiple sources.

Go to View  Master Lists  Sources
Highlight all the duplicate SSDI sources, do not highlight the source
you want to keep
With all the duplicates highlighted click on the Combine highlighted
source ... button in the bottom of the screen
The label will change to Highlight destination source, then click this
button.
Highlight the source you did not select earlier and click the button.
If all the SSDI sources use the same SourceWriter template they will be
combined. If they use different templates you cannot combine them and
Legacy will offer to add the template ID column to the list so you can
see what template each master source used.
You will be able to combine all the SSDI sources that use the same
template but you will have to manually add the Master SSDI source to
those who use an SSDI source with another template then remove the old
SSDI source from them.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Citing Sources

2011-08-04 Thread Joan Kemp
Dear Michele,

Many thanks for this.  What you describe is what I've been doing up to
now, though without all the detail of witnesses etc - though, as you
say, they could easily be added.

I thought that using 'master sources' was the 'way to go'  but I'm
rapidly rethinking that it is really just extra clutter.  Your email is
very reassuring.  Thanks

Joan

On 04/08/2011 22:02, cranberryf...@cobridge.tv wrote:
 Joan,

 You said, Moving next to marriage certificates,  there is no 'Marriage'
 under
 'Events'.  Ergo, I want to create an 'Event' called 'Marriage' with a
 Master Source 'marriage certificates' and then list the details of
 individual marriage certificates along with the details for a given
 individual (again, using a template for consistency).  However, I can't
 see how to edit 'Events' to include 'Marriage'.  I don't want 'Marriage
 to be 'Unspecified' - that seems inappropriate.  Further, I would like
 the two individuals who are married to share the same 'Source detail'

 There is an easier way to do this.  The marriage is already listed as an
 event of sorts.  You don't have to add an event to the events list.  To
 the right of the marriage (where the date/place are recorded) you will see a
 marriage sources button, a marriage events button (though I don't use that),
 an marriage notes button and a picture gallery button.  All of these pertain
 to the marriage specifically.  You can transcribe the entire marriage record
 here, you can scan and attach the original document, you can record anything
 you want here that pertains to the marriage itself.  I would keep the
 marriage info OUT of the main events tab.  There is no reason to tangle them
 up.  If I were to use the marriage events icon, I might attach a newspaper
 announcement of the engagement, or the wedding announcement.  You can do
 whatever you want.  My only advice is, keep the marriage stuff within the
 marriage field and don't add marriage events to the main list of events if
 that makes sense.

 michele



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Re: [LegacyUG] Unsplit MasterSource

2011-08-04 Thread Brian/Support
See the email from Jenny Benson about the fact that the button sometimes
does not work when you first try it. If you click on edit then cancel
without making any changes the button should start working correctly.

You highlight a source by selecting it with the mouse. You can select
multiple sources by holding down CTRL when you click  on an additional
source.

Brian
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When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence.
Thanks.

On 04/08/2011 4:57 PM, Howlanddavisii wrote:
 Brian:


   Nothing appears to be happening as you stated.  First of all, would you 
 remind me how to highlight the sources.  Second, when I click on the Combine 
  button in the bottom of the screen, nothing happens.  Also, there was 
 no offer to add the template ID column to the list.


 Howland Davis


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Re: [LegacyUG] Citing Sources

2011-08-04 Thread cranberryfrog
I DO use master sources but I attach them in the marriage area, not in the
main events area (does that make sense?)  Here are some of the marriage
sources I use

Marriage Records - AL - Alabama Marriage Collection, 1800-1969 (Ancestry
database)
Marriage Records - AL - Blount Co (licenses)
Marriage Records - AL - Mobile Co - Marriages of Mobile County, Alabama,
1813-1855 (book)
Marriage Records - AL - Pike Co (licenses)
Marriage Records - FL - Florida Marriage Collection, 1822-1875 and 1927-2001
(Ancestry database)
Marriage Records - FL - Hillsborough Co (licenses)
Marriage Records - GA - 37,000 Early Georgia Marriages (book)
Marriage Records - GA - 40,000 Early Georgia Marriages (book)
Marriage Records - GA - Columbia Co - Columbia County, Georgia Early
Marriage Records (book)
Marriage Records - GA - Columbia Co (licenses)

I just copied the first 10 entries.  I have a total of 39 (and I am a
lumper!)

michele



-Original Message-
From: Joan Kemp
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 5:16 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Citing Sources

Dear Michele,

Many thanks for this.  What you describe is what I've been doing up to
now, though without all the detail of witnesses etc - though, as you
say, they could easily be added.

I thought that using 'master sources' was the 'way to go'  but I'm
rapidly rethinking that it is really just extra clutter.  Your email is
very reassuring.  Thanks

Joan

On 04/08/2011 22:02, cranberryf...@cobridge.tv wrote:
 Joan,

 You said, Moving next to marriage certificates,  there is no 'Marriage'
 under
 'Events'.  Ergo, I want to create an 'Event' called 'Marriage' with a
 Master Source 'marriage certificates' and then list the details of
 individual marriage certificates along with the details for a given
 individual (again, using a template for consistency).  However, I can't
 see how to edit 'Events' to include 'Marriage'.  I don't want 'Marriage
 to be 'Unspecified' - that seems inappropriate.  Further, I would like
 the two individuals who are married to share the same 'Source detail'

 There is an easier way to do this.  The marriage is already listed as an
 event of sorts.  You don't have to add an event to the events list.  To
 the right of the marriage (where the date/place are recorded) you will see
 a
 marriage sources button, a marriage events button (though I don't use
 that),
 an marriage notes button and a picture gallery button.  All of these
 pertain
 to the marriage specifically.  You can transcribe the entire marriage
 record
 here, you can scan and attach the original document, you can record
 anything
 you want here that pertains to the marriage itself.  I would keep the
 marriage info OUT of the main events tab.  There is no reason to tangle
 them
 up.  If I were to use the marriage events icon, I might attach a newspaper
 announcement of the engagement, or the wedding announcement.  You can do
 whatever you want.  My only advice is, keep the marriage stuff within the
 marriage field and don't add marriage events to the main list of events if
 that makes sense.

 michele



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Re: [LegacyUG] Citing Sources

2011-08-04 Thread Joan Kemp
Dear Marilyn,

Ah - this now makes perfect sense.  I think the problem is one of
completely different backgrounds.  In the UK, we don't really have
collected records like this.  We just have parish registers  the GRO
indices from 1837.

I think I'll go back to my original method of working, but just ensure
that is more systematic.

Thank you very much for cutting through the muddle!

All the best

Joan



On 04/08/2011 22:36, cranberryf...@cobridge.tv wrote:
 I DO use master sources but I attach them in the marriage area, not in the
 main events area (does that make sense?)  Here are some of the marriage
 sources I use

 Marriage Records - AL - Alabama Marriage Collection, 1800-1969 (Ancestry
 database)
 Marriage Records - AL - Blount Co (licenses)
 Marriage Records - AL - Mobile Co - Marriages of Mobile County, Alabama,
 1813-1855 (book)
 Marriage Records - AL - Pike Co (licenses)
 Marriage Records - FL - Florida Marriage Collection, 1822-1875 and 1927-2001
 (Ancestry database)
 Marriage Records - FL - Hillsborough Co (licenses)
 Marriage Records - GA - 37,000 Early Georgia Marriages (book)
 Marriage Records - GA - 40,000 Early Georgia Marriages (book)
 Marriage Records - GA - Columbia Co - Columbia County, Georgia Early
 Marriage Records (book)
 Marriage Records - GA - Columbia Co (licenses)

 I just copied the first 10 entries.  I have a total of 39 (and I am a
 lumper!)

 michele



 -Original Message-
 From: Joan Kemp
 Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 5:16 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Citing Sources

 Dear Michele,

 Many thanks for this.  What you describe is what I've been doing up to
 now, though without all the detail of witnesses etc - though, as you
 say, they could easily be added.

 I thought that using 'master sources' was the 'way to go'  but I'm
 rapidly rethinking that it is really just extra clutter.  Your email is
 very reassuring.  Thanks

 Joan

 On 04/08/2011 22:02, cranberryf...@cobridge.tv wrote:
 Joan,

 You said, Moving next to marriage certificates,  there is no 'Marriage'
 under
 'Events'.  Ergo, I want to create an 'Event' called 'Marriage' with a
 Master Source 'marriage certificates' and then list the details of
 individual marriage certificates along with the details for a given
 individual (again, using a template for consistency).  However, I can't
 see how to edit 'Events' to include 'Marriage'.  I don't want 'Marriage
 to be 'Unspecified' - that seems inappropriate.  Further, I would like
 the two individuals who are married to share the same 'Source detail'

 There is an easier way to do this.  The marriage is already listed as an
 event of sorts.  You don't have to add an event to the events list.  To
 the right of the marriage (where the date/place are recorded) you will see
 a
 marriage sources button, a marriage events button (though I don't use
 that),
 an marriage notes button and a picture gallery button.  All of these
 pertain
 to the marriage specifically.  You can transcribe the entire marriage
 record
 here, you can scan and attach the original document, you can record
 anything
 you want here that pertains to the marriage itself.  I would keep the
 marriage info OUT of the main events tab.  There is no reason to tangle
 them
 up.  If I were to use the marriage events icon, I might attach a newspaper
 announcement of the engagement, or the wedding announcement.  You can do
 whatever you want.  My only advice is, keep the marriage stuff within the
 marriage field and don't add marriage events to the main list of events if
 that makes sense.

 michele



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Re: [LegacyUG] Unsplit MasterSource

2011-08-04 Thread Jenny M Benson
On 04/08/2011 19:57, Brian/Support wrote:
 The problem you reported has been tested and is confirmed. A report has
 been recorded in our problem tracking system so this can be fixed.

Thanks Brian.  It doesn't bother me because I know what to do - and
what's a couple of extra mouse clicks between friends?! - but thought
I'd mention it (again) for the benefit of anyone who hasn't come across
this before.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Unsplit MasterSource

2011-08-04 Thread Jenny M Benson
On 04/08/2011 21:57, Howlanddavisii wrote:
 Nothing appears to be happening as you stated.

Please see my response to Brian's instructions, mentioning that it
sometimes happens that nothing happens (!) and what to do about it.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Citing Sources

2011-08-04 Thread Ron Ferguson
Joan,

Legacy has specific Source Templates for all of the UK. BMD and Censuses.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: Joan Kemp
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 10:47 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Citing Sources

Dear Marilyn,

Ah - this now makes perfect sense.  I think the problem is one of
completely different backgrounds.  In the UK, we don't really have
collected records like this.  We just have parish registers  the GRO
indices from 1837.

I think I'll go back to my original method of working, but just ensure
that is more systematic.

Thank you very much for cutting through the muddle!

All the best

Joan



On 04/08/2011 22:36, cranberryf...@cobridge.tv wrote:
 I DO use master sources but I attach them in the marriage area, not in the
 main events area (does that make sense?)  Here are some of the marriage
 sources I use

 Marriage Records - AL - Alabama Marriage Collection, 1800-1969 (Ancestry
 database)
 Marriage Records - AL - Blount Co (licenses)
 Marriage Records - AL - Mobile Co - Marriages of Mobile County, Alabama,
 1813-1855 (book)
 Marriage Records - AL - Pike Co (licenses)
 Marriage Records - FL - Florida Marriage Collection, 1822-1875 and
 1927-2001
 (Ancestry database)
 Marriage Records - FL - Hillsborough Co (licenses)
 Marriage Records - GA - 37,000 Early Georgia Marriages (book)
 Marriage Records - GA - 40,000 Early Georgia Marriages (book)
 Marriage Records - GA - Columbia Co - Columbia County, Georgia Early
 Marriage Records (book)
 Marriage Records - GA - Columbia Co (licenses)

 I just copied the first 10 entries.  I have a total of 39 (and I am a
 lumper!)

 michele



 -Original Message-
 From: Joan Kemp
 Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 5:16 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Citing Sources

 Dear Michele,

 Many thanks for this.  What you describe is what I've been doing up to
 now, though without all the detail of witnesses etc - though, as you
 say, they could easily be added.

 I thought that using 'master sources' was the 'way to go'  but I'm
 rapidly rethinking that it is really just extra clutter.  Your email is
 very reassuring.  Thanks

 Joan

 On 04/08/2011 22:02, cranberryf...@cobridge.tv wrote:
 Joan,

 You said, Moving next to marriage certificates,  there is no 'Marriage'
 under
 'Events'.  Ergo, I want to create an 'Event' called 'Marriage' with a
 Master Source 'marriage certificates' and then list the details of
 individual marriage certificates along with the details for a given
 individual (again, using a template for consistency).  However, I can't
 see how to edit 'Events' to include 'Marriage'.  I don't want 'Marriage
 to be 'Unspecified' - that seems inappropriate.  Further, I would like
 the two individuals who are married to share the same 'Source detail'

 There is an easier way to do this.  The marriage is already listed as an
 event of sorts.  You don't have to add an event to the events list.  To
 the right of the marriage (where the date/place are recorded) you will
 see
 a
 marriage sources button, a marriage events button (though I don't use
 that),
 an marriage notes button and a picture gallery button.  All of these
 pertain
 to the marriage specifically.  You can transcribe the entire marriage
 record
 here, you can scan and attach the original document, you can record
 anything
 you want here that pertains to the marriage itself.  I would keep the
 marriage info OUT of the main events tab.  There is no reason to tangle
 them
 up.  If I were to use the marriage events icon, I might attach a
 newspaper
 announcement of the engagement, or the wedding announcement.  You can do
 whatever you want.  My only advice is, keep the marriage stuff within the
 marriage field and don't add marriage events to the main list of events
 if
 that makes sense.

 michele




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Re: [LegacyUG] Citing Sources

2011-08-04 Thread Jenny M Benson
On 04/08/2011 22:47, Joan Kemp wrote:
 Ah - this now makes perfect sense.  I think the problem is one of
 completely different backgrounds.  In the UK, we don't really have
 collected records like this.  We just have parish registers  the GRO
 indices from 1837.

And local Register Office Indices, and BMD Certificates from GRO and BMD
Certificates from local Register Offices, and Parish Record
Transcriptions from numerous sources ...

 I think I'll go back to my original method of working, but just ensure
 that is more systematic.

You can, of course, work any way you like, but it is coming across very
strongly from your posts that you really have not grasped the basics of
using Legacy to maximise its potential.  I really do recommend that you
take some time out to work through the Tutorial found under Help, look
at the training video previews (and purchase the videos if you can) and
also watch Geoff's Webinars on entering Source material.  Also remember
that pressing F1 on any screen will bring up context-specific help.  It
will be time well spent and save you a lot of time and heartache in the
long run.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Citing Sources

2011-08-04 Thread Mike Fry
On 2011/08/04 23:47, Joan Kemp wrote:

 Ah - this now makes perfect sense.  I think the problem is one of
 completely different backgrounds.  In the UK, we don't really have
 collected records like this.  We just have parish registers  the GRO
 indices from 1837.

Not strictly true :-)

For certificates, there are those issued by the GRO at Southport. There are also
certificates issued by local Register Offices. Some are modern transcriptions.
Some are facsimiles.

Parish Registers also fall into 3 categories: Parish Registers, Archdeacons
Transcripts and Bishops Transcripts.

Ron??? Time for to chime in :-)

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Re: [LegacyUG] Citing Sources

2011-08-04 Thread Joan Kemp
Thanks, Mike

I now get the picture of how the system is intended to be used.  I have
to say that although I have frequently come across Bishop's transcripts,
I have never come across an Archdeacon's Transcript!

All the best

Joan

On 04/08/2011 23:21, Mike Fry wrote:
 On 2011/08/04 23:47, Joan Kemp wrote:

 Ah - this now makes perfect sense.  I think the problem is one of
 completely different backgrounds.  In the UK, we don't really have
 collected records like this.  We just have parish registers   the GRO
 indices from 1837.
 Not strictly true :-)

 For certificates, there are those issued by the GRO at Southport. There are 
 also
 certificates issued by local Register Offices. Some are modern transcriptions.
 Some are facsimiles.

 Parish Registers also fall into 3 categories: Parish Registers, Archdeacons
 Transcripts and Bishops Transcripts.

 Ron??? Time for to chime in :-)




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Re: [LegacyUG] Unsplit MasterSource

2011-08-04 Thread Howlanddavisii
Jenny:


What you said to do worked, combining one source at a time.  It would 
not combine a group of sources at a time.  Now I am looking at some other 
sources that should be combined and hoping that the update fixing the problem 
happens soon.


Howland Davis


-Original Message-
From: Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk
To: LegacyUserGroup LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Thu, Aug 4, 2011 1:56 pm
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Unsplit MasterSource


On 04/08/2011 21:57, Howlanddavisii wrote:
 Nothing appears to be happening as you stated.

Please see my response to Brian's instructions, mentioning that it
sometimes happens that nothing happens (!) and what to do about it.

--
Jenny M Benson







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Re: [LegacyUG] Publishing an individual report

2011-08-04 Thread cranberryfrog
Did you use his father’s obit as a source for your individual, say, to prove 
the relationship or his name?  When I use an obit, I use it as a source for 
everyone named in the obituary.

michele

From: Kathy Jones
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 7:31 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Publishing an individual report

I am trying to publish a report for an individual and have run into some 
problems.



1. If I choose to add sources to the individual’s report I end up with some 
of the sources from his father.   Not all of the sources, but the obituary for 
the individual’s father is included as a source.

2. At one point the photo included with the burial information was there 
and then it disappeared.   I didn’t make any changes but the photo disappeared.

3. How do I add all the photos that are included in the picture folder or 
can I add only the preferred photo?



I know I can take the information and add it to a Word document, then insert 
all the pictures, but I wanted a quick publication with everything I had added, 
including photos and correct sourcing, but so far it isn’t happening.



Thanks.







Kathy Jones

Flying Needle Machine Embroidery

http://www.flyingneedle.ca

mailto:ka...@flyingneedle.ca


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[LegacyUG] Modifying Customize Family View Information

2011-08-04 Thread David
How do I change the Legacy sentence structure of Birth, Baptism,
Death, Burial location information from the default in to at?

Example:  (default)  He died in Valley View Hospital, Anyplace, USA  ie
[inPlace]

Example: (change to) He died at Valley View Hospital, Anyplace, USA  ie
[atPlace]

See the Customize Family View Information screen for details.

Thanks,
David


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