RE: [LegacyUG] Dates in CSV file

2012-02-28 Thread Alan Pereira
Mary, the dates are not wrong they are just different formats.  Excel applies 
an intelligent automatic formatting of dates which depends on the input 
formatting and the century part of the date.  Hal Antonson has already replied 
on how to overcome this.
The intelligence is laughable if you consider the date you mentioned
Just type into excel in 2 dirrent cells
1 sep 1913
1 sep 2013
The result is the same 1-sep-13
Although in the fx display above the columns the date is identified correctly
Alan Pereira

-Original Message-
From: M. Brenzel [mailto:brenze...@roadrunner.com]
Sent: 28 February 2012 02:14
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Dates in CSV file

I have created a CSV file from the Name List containing Surname/Given Name, 
Living Indicator, Birth Date, and Death Date.  When I look at the file in 
Notepad, the dates look good.  But when I open it in Excel, some of the dates 
are formatted differently than most of the others.

For example, the date 1 Sep 1913 in Legacy looks the same in Notepad but in 
Excel, it is displayed as 1-Sep-13.  When I look at the table in Access 
(tblIR), the dates look different than those that are correct.

Does anyone have an idea why the dates are messed up for some people but not 
others?  And is there an easy way to fix them?

Thanks,
Mary








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Re: [LegacyUG] Dates in CSV file

2012-02-28 Thread Mike Fry
On 2012/02/28 13:49, M. Brenzel wrote:

 I have Excel 2007.  Re-formatting the entire column is not an option, as
 dates that are year only (for example, 1965) get messed up.

Legacy dates are not always 'true' dates. It would be better if your
spreadsheets treated Legacy dates as simple, plain text.

--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg



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Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures

2012-02-28 Thread Sherry/Support
Are you referring to *linking* pictures to Legacy? Downloading refers
to copying files from a server on the internet to your computer.

 What is this download folder you have? Pictures you link to in
Legacy should be stored in the c:\Legacy\Pictures folder.

What Master file are you referring to? Is that your Family File?

You can link an unlimited number of pictures in each Picture Gallery.

You're probably referring to the question mark icon as the place
holder. That shows up when an attached item is moved from its original
location, deleted or renamed. When you link pictures to Legacy, they
need to be in the place where you want to keep them stored and not
move them after linking.

Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 9:03 PM, Donna Newell djnewel...@gmail.com wrote:
 Does anyone know if there is a max number of pictures you can download(like
 census documents) to Legacy?  All of a sudden mine has stopped and will not
 let me download any more records.  Do I empty the Download folder or is
 there a limit that I can download and I have reached it?  I am following
 Geoff’s webinar on census records and attaching all of the records that I
 have to each individual.  It would be nice to have a repeat button to do
 some of this.  On the Webinar he did not indicate that there was a limit, so
 I have been going blissfully along attaching records to individuals, at
 least until tonight, and all of a sudden nothing.  It isn’t there.  I go
 into the master file and something is there, a place holder, blank.  Some
 have any ideas?



 Donna in Ardmore, OK



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[LegacyUG] Webinar Wednesday - Organizing and Sharing Digital Images

2012-02-28 Thread Geoff Rasmussen
A reminder about Wednesday's webinar - Organizing and Sharing Digital
Images (taught by myself) will begin at 2pm Eastern U.S. (1pm Central,
12pm Mountain/Arizona, 11am Pacific, 7pm GMT). If you want to attend the
live session, arrive at least 15-20 minutes early. Only the first 1,000 to
join will be able to participate (over 2,000 have registered). See you
online!

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
ge...@legacyfamilytree.com
www.LegacyFamilyTree.com http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/



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Re: [LegacyUG] MRIN filing

2012-02-28 Thread gen_quest
They remain filed under the parent's MRIN until such time as they marry and 
have a MRIN of their own.   If they do not marry then all documents pertaining 
to them remain filed under the parent's MRIN.




 From: Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 2:50:38 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] MRIN filing


Adult/grown children who remain unmarried but have moved out of the family home 
go where?  Thx.
 --Paula in Texas
Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman 
Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field 
Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle 
Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche 
Ryburn Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams





 From: gen_quest gen_qu...@yahoo.ca
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sun, February 26, 2012 8:55:59 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] MRIN filing


Tony,

I also use the MRIN filing system and have set up online folders for each 
marriage.   Following the advice from the Legacy user who originally devised 
this system, I renumber MRINs according to my 4 ancestral lines as follows:


My maternal grandfather is MRIN 1000-1999   

My maternal grandmother is MRIN 2000-2999
My maternal grandfather is MRIN 3000-3999
My paternal grandmother is MRIN 4000-4999


Census records are filed under the MRIN of the head of the household.
Unmarried children are filed under the MRIN of their parents
When a child marries, I move the birth certificate into the MRIN folder for the 
marriage and add the marriage certificate and any census records or other 
information during the time of the marriage.

If a child marries for a second time, the marriage has a different MRIN number 
under which I include the marriage certificate, census and other info during 
the time of this marriage and finally the death certificates.

The documents are numbered  e.g. MRIN-1, -2, -3 etc.


For each line I have a binder(s) for paper documents, filed under the MRIN 
number.  If I do not have any documents for a marriage then there is no divider 
for that number in the binder.  At one time I printed out the census records 
but no longer do that to cut back on the size of the binders.

Hope this helps.

Christine


 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures

2012-02-28 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
Only limited by your hard drive volume.Rich in LA CA

--- On Mon, 2/27/12, Donna Newell djnewel...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Donna Newell djnewel...@gmail.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Pictures
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Date: Monday, February 27, 2012, 9:03 PM

Does anyone know if there is a max number of pictures you can download(like 
census documents) to Legacy?  All of a sudden mine has stopped and will not let 
me download any more records.  Do I empty the Download folder or is there a 
limit that I can download and I have reached it?  I am following Geoff’s 
webinar on census records and attaching all of the records that I have to each 
individual.  It would be nice to have a repeat button to do some of this.  On 
the Webinar he did not indicate that there was a limit, so I have been going 
blissfully along attaching records to individuals, at least until tonight, and 
all of a sudden nothing.  It isn’t there.  I go into the master file and 
something is there, a place holder, blank.  Some have any ideas?  Donna in 
Ardmore, OK


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Re: [LegacyUG] MRIN filing

2012-02-28 Thread Kay Fordham
Christine -

I also use the MRIN system and love it. Even if the family numbers are not
sequential I have no problem locating any members. My info has been
collected over many years so that contributes to the distance from parent to
child and so on. I have a prodigious number of paper records collected over
the years and file them in loose-leaf protectors behind my Family Group
Sheets. Like to be able to refer to them with the FGS. Now, I am only saving
digital copies of most. I never thought of storing my online stuff in this
fashion. Thanks for the tip.

Kay

- Original Message -
From: gen_quest gen_qu...@yahoo.ca
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 8:39 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] MRIN filing


They remain filed under the parent's MRIN until such time as they marry and
have a MRIN of their own. If they do not marry then all documents pertaining
to them remain filed under the parent's MRIN.




 From: Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 2:50:38 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] MRIN filing


Adult/grown children who remain unmarried but have moved out of the family
home go where? Thx.
--Paula in Texas
Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman
Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field
Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes
Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts
Roche Ryburn Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams





 From: gen_quest gen_qu...@yahoo.ca
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sun, February 26, 2012 8:55:59 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] MRIN filing


Tony,

I also use the MRIN filing system and have set up online folders for each
marriage. Following the advice from the Legacy user who originally devised
this system, I renumber MRINs according to my 4 ancestral lines as follows:


My maternal grandfather is MRIN 1000-1999

My maternal grandmother is MRIN 2000-2999
My maternal grandfather is MRIN 3000-3999
My paternal grandmother is MRIN 4000-4999


Census records are filed under the MRIN of the head of the household.
Unmarried children are filed under the MRIN of their parents
When a child marries, I move the birth certificate into the MRIN folder for
the marriage and add the marriage certificate and any census records or
other information during the time of the marriage.

If a child marries for a second time, the marriage has a different MRIN
number under which I include the marriage certificate, census and other info
during the time of this marriage and finally the death certificates.

The documents are numbered e.g. MRIN-1, -2, -3 etc.


For each line I have a binder(s) for paper documents, filed under the MRIN
number. If I do not have any documents for a marriage then there is no
divider for that number in the binder. At one time I printed out the census
records but no longer do that to cut back on the size of the binders.

Hope this helps.

Christine




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Re: [LegacyUG] Dates in CSV file

2012-02-28 Thread brenzelmf
I'm hoping that someone can tell me why some of the dates in Legacy are coming 
into the CSV file in format dd-mmm-yy (1-Sep-13) while others are dd mmm 
 (1 Sep 1913).  It is from there that they are displayed incorrectly in 
Excel.

All of the dates in Legacy look to be formatted the same.

Thanks.
Mary

 Mike Fry mike...@iafrica.com wrote:
 On 2012/02/28 13:49, M. Brenzel wrote:

  I have Excel 2007.  Re-formatting the entire column is not an option, as
  dates that are year only (for example, 1965) get messed up.

 Legacy dates are not always 'true' dates. It would be better if your
 spreadsheets treated Legacy dates as simple, plain text.

 --
 Regards,
 Mike Fry
 Johannesburg



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RE: [LegacyUG] Pictures

2012-02-28 Thread Alan Pereira
If your file system on your operating system is NTFS (XP, Vista, Win 7), then 
you have a limit of 4,294,967,295 files per folder.  So this is unlikely to be 
your problem.

Have you had a look at your web browser cache - maybe that needs to be larger 
or cleaned out.

Alan Pereira



From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES [mailto:fourpa...@verizon.net]
Sent: 28 February 2012 17:52
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures




Only limited by your hard drive volume.

Rich in LA CA

--- On Mon, 2/27/12, Donna Newell djnewel...@gmail.com wrote:


From: Donna Newell djnewel...@gmail.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Pictures
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Date: Monday, February 27, 2012, 9:03 PM

Does anyone know if there is a max number of pictures you can download(like 
census documents) to Legacy?  All of a sudden mine has stopped and will not let 
me download any more records.  Do I empty the Download folder or is there a 
limit that I can download and I have reached it?  I am following Geoff’s 
webinar on census records and attaching all of the records that I have to each 
individual.  It would be nice to have a repeat button to do some of this.  On 
the Webinar he did not indicate that there was a limit, so I have been going 
blissfully along attaching records to individuals, at least until tonight, and 
all of a sudden nothing.  It isn’t there.  I go into the master file and 
something is there, a place holder, blank.  Some have any ideas?



Donna in Ardmore, OK



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Re: [LegacyUG] Dates in CSV file

2012-02-28 Thread Jenny M Benson
On 28/02/2012 17:28, brenze...@roadrunner.com wrote:
 I'm hoping that someone can tell me why some of the dates in Legacy
 are coming into the CSV file in format dd-mmm-yy (1-Sep-13) while
 others are dd mmm  (1 Sep 1913).  It is from there that they
 are displayed incorrectly in Excel.

 All of the dates in Legacy look to be formatted the same.

I may be quite wrong about this, but I have an idea that Legacy will
accept dates input in any of several formats, but displays them in the
format chosen by the user.

If this is the case, I think dates will be exported to the CSV file in
the format they were entered, not in the format they were displayed.

You could test this by entering a couple of dates in different formats
and then export them and seeing how they look in Excel.  I haven't time
to do that myself at the moment.

--
Jenny M Benson



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Re: [LegacyUG] MRIN filing

2012-02-28 Thread Tim Rosenlof
Same as any other marriage. They were married, both had parents and
children.

Sent by Tim

On 2/28/2012 11:15 AM, Dave Abernathy wrote:

 How are going to handle the same sex marriages?

 Sent from my Kindle Fire

 
 *From:* gen_quest gen_qu...@yahoo.ca
 *Sent:* Tue Feb 28 08:39:45 PST 2012
 *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] MRIN filing

 They remain filed under the parent's MRIN until such time as they
 marry and have a MRIN of their own.   If they do not marry then all
 documents pertaining to them remain filed under the parent's MRIN.

 
 *From:* Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net
 *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Sent:* Monday, February 27, 2012 2:50:38 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] MRIN filing

 Adult/grown children who remain unmarried but have moved out of the
 family home go where?  Thx.
 --Paula in Texas
 Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton
 Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody
 Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale
 Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald
 Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sanford Short Singer
 Sullivan Weller Williams


 
 *From:* gen_quest gen_qu...@yahoo.ca
 *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Sent:* Sun, February 26, 2012 8:55:59 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] MRIN filing

 Tony,

 I also use the MRIN filing system and have set up online folders for
 each marriage.   Following the advice from the Legacy user who
 originally devised this system, I renumber MRINs according to my 4
 ancestral lines as follows:

 My maternal grandfather is MRIN 1000-1999
 My maternal grandmother is MRIN 2000-2999
 My maternal grandfather is MRIN 3000-3999
 My paternal grandmother is MRIN 4000-4999

 Census records are filed under the MRIN of the head of the household.
 Unmarried children are filed under the MRIN of their parents
 When a child marries, I move the birth certificate into the MRIN
 folder for the marriage and add the marriage certificate and any
 census records or other information during the time of the marriage.
 If a child marries for a second time, the marriage has a different
 MRIN number under which I include the marriage certificate, census and
 other info during the time of this marriage and finally the death
 certificates.

 The documents are numbered  e.g. MRIN-1, -2, -3 etc.

 For each line I have a binder(s) for paper documents, filed under the
 MRIN number.  If I do not have any documents for a marriage then there
 is no divider for that number in the binder.  At one time I printed
 out the census records but no longer do that to cut back on the size
 of the binders.

 Hope this helps.

 Christine





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Re: [LegacyUG] Removing children listed twice

2012-02-28 Thread Brian/Support
Have you submitted a suggestion on what is displayed for subsequent
listings of the duplicates along with the this is a duplicate line
cross-reference?

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On 28/02/2012 1:04 AM, Jan Roberts wrote:
 Yes, but unfortunately if you have events for the duplicate person the events 
 are all printed twice and THEN it brings the Duplicate Line feature into 
 play.  i.e. the Line isn't duplicated, but the first duplicate person in each 
 line IS.  I would like to see where the name and events are included once, 
 and then only the name (and perhaps vital dates, but certainly not events) 
 repeated subsequently.

 Cheers
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Re: [LegacyUG] combining dups in master sources

2012-02-28 Thread Brian/Support
My reminder worked. The Issue has now been marked as resolved. It is now
flagged for testing by our beta testers when a new test build is issued
to them.

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On 25/02/2012 5:22 PM, Brian/Support wrote:
 Jenny reported this as a problem on the LUG and I saw her post. It was
 recorded in our problem tracking system in Aug 2011. The issue is still
 shown as outstanding so I am going to remind the programmers of this
 problem.

 Brian
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Re: [LegacyUG] MRIN filing

2012-02-28 Thread Tim Rosenlof
Why not ? It does not change my mirns or rins.

Tim Rosenlof

On 2/28/2012 12:07 PM, Michele Lewis wrote:

 I guess those people that us MRINs for their filing system never use
 the renumber RINS/MRINS to compact their file?

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Re: [LegacyUG] MRIN filing

2012-02-28 Thread Brian/Support
If renumbering does not change your RINs or MRINs you must have no gaps
created by deleting/merging people and unlinking couples.

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On 28/02/2012 2:51 PM, Tim Rosenlof wrote:
 Why not ? It does not change my mirns or rins.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Dates in CSV file

2012-02-28 Thread M. Brenzel
I won't be able to try it until later tonight.  But I can tell you that it 
appears to only affect full dates after 1 Dec 1900.  Dates in the 20th and 21st 
centuries seem to be affected if the full date has been entered.  Any dates 
prior to that are captured correctly in the CSV file and therefore, open 
correctly in Excel.

For example, 19 Jul 1905 is displayed in Legacy with the BirthD field in tblIR 
=  0019071905 and BirthSD = 19050719.  The CSV file shows it as 
19-Jul-05 and when opened in Excel, the fx displays it as 7/19/2005.

Mary

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 28, 2012, at 2:02 PM, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote:

 On 28/02/2012 17:28, brenze...@roadrunner.com wrote:
 I'm hoping that someone can tell me why some of the dates in Legacy
 are coming into the CSV file in format dd-mmm-yy (1-Sep-13) while
 others are dd mmm  (1 Sep 1913).  It is from there that they
 are displayed incorrectly in Excel.

 All of the dates in Legacy look to be formatted the same.

 I may be quite wrong about this, but I have an idea that Legacy will
 accept dates input in any of several formats, but displays them in the
 format chosen by the user.

 If this is the case, I think dates will be exported to the CSV file in
 the format they were entered, not in the format they were displayed.

 You could test this by entering a couple of dates in different formats
 and then export them and seeing how they look in Excel.  I haven't time
 to do that myself at the moment.

 --
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Re: [LegacyUG] MRIN filing

2012-02-28 Thread Sherry/Support
If you have big gaps in RINs or MRINs, you would need to go to Tools 
Renumber RINs to compact the file, effectively removing the unused
space. This is probably what Michele is referring to..

File  FIle Maintenance  Check/Repair or Compact Famly File don't
affect the RINs or MRINs.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
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On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Tim Rosenlof spa...@xmission.com wrote:
 Why not ? It does not change my mirns or rins.

 Tim Rosenlof

 On 2/28/2012 12:07 PM, Michele Lewis wrote:

 I guess those people that us MRINs for their filing system never use the
 renumber RINS/MRINS to compact their file?



 Michele



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Re: [LegacyUG] Dates in CSV file

2012-02-28 Thread Paul R.
Excel doesn't recognize dates prior to 1900 so it will leave those
alone.  Dates starting with 1900 are converted to a number so you can do
'arithmetic' on them.  Thus full dates are converted and partial dates
are not.  You must have the date formatting in excel set up to show
m/d/.  Those that aren't recognized as dates aren't  formatted.

Paul

On 2/28/2012 3:07 PM, M. Brenzel wrote:
 I won't be able to try it until later tonight.  But I can tell you that it 
 appears to only affect full dates after 1 Dec 1900.  Dates in the 20th and 
 21st centuries seem to be affected if the full date has been entered.  Any 
 dates prior to that are captured correctly in the CSV file and therefore, 
 open correctly in Excel.

 For example, 19 Jul 1905 is displayed in Legacy with the BirthD field in 
 tblIR =  0019071905 and BirthSD = 19050719.  The CSV file shows it as 
 19-Jul-05 and when opened in Excel, the fx displays it as 7/19/2005.

 Mary

 Sent from my iPad

 On Feb 28, 2012, at 2:02 PM, Jenny M Bensonge...@cedarbank.me.uk  wrote:

 On 28/02/2012 17:28, brenze...@roadrunner.com wrote:
 I'm hoping that someone can tell me why some of the dates in Legacy
 are coming into the CSV file in format dd-mmm-yy (1-Sep-13) while
 others are dd mmm  (1 Sep 1913).  It is from there that they
 are displayed incorrectly in Excel.

 All of the dates in Legacy look to be formatted the same.
 I may be quite wrong about this, but I have an idea that Legacy will
 accept dates input in any of several formats, but displays them in the
 format chosen by the user.

 If this is the case, I think dates will be exported to the CSV file in
 the format they were entered, not in the format they were displayed.

 You could test this by entering a couple of dates in different formats
 and then export them and seeing how they look in Excel.  I haven't time
 to do that myself at the moment.

 --
 Jenny M Benson


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RE: [LegacyUG] MRIN filing

2012-02-28 Thread Michele Lewis
Exactly, Sherry.  My point is, you could never do this if you use MRINs for 
your filing system because it will cause some of  your MRIN numbers to change.

Michele


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Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:20 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] MRIN filing

If you have big gaps in RINs or MRINs, you would need to go to Tools  Renumber 
RINs to compact the file, effectively removing the unused space. This is 
probably what Michele is referring to..

File  FIle Maintenance  Check/Repair or Compact Famly File don't affect the 
RINs or MRINs.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Tim Rosenlof spa...@xmission.com wrote:
 Why not ? It does not change my mirns or rins.

 Tim Rosenlof

 On 2/28/2012 12:07 PM, Michele Lewis wrote:

 I guess those people that us MRINs for their filing system never use
 the renumber RINS/MRINS to compact their file?



 Michele



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Re: [LegacyUG] MRIN filing

2012-02-28 Thread Tim Rosenlof
I haven't quite mastered my mind reading

Tim Rosenlof

On 2/28/2012 1:20 PM, Sherry/Support wrote:
 This is probably what Michele is referring to..



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Re: [LegacyUG] MRIN filing

2012-02-28 Thread Tim Rosenlof
Nope.

Tim Rosenlof

On 2/28/2012 1:46 PM, Michele Lewis wrote:
 Exactly, Sherry.  My point is, you could never do this if you use MRINs for 
 your filing system because it will cause some of  your MRIN numbers to change.

 Michele


 -Original Message-
 From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:20 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] MRIN filing

 If you have big gaps in RINs or MRINs, you would need to go to Tools  
 Renumber RINs to compact the file, effectively removing the unused space. 
 This is probably what Michele is referring to..

 File  FIle Maintenance  Check/Repair or Compact Famly File don't affect the 
 RINs or MRINs.


 Sincerely,
 Sherry
 Technical Support
 Legacy Family Tree



 On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Tim Rosenlofspa...@xmission.com  wrote:
 Why not ? It does not change my mirns or rins.

 Tim Rosenlof

 On 2/28/2012 12:07 PM, Michele Lewis wrote:

 I guess those people that us MRINs for their filing system never use
 the renumber RINS/MRINS to compact their file?

 Michele





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Re: [LegacyUG] Link to a site that has a nice way of presenting the family info

2012-02-28 Thread Marg Strong
I got to the Descendant's link and it took me to the page with the Coat of 
Arms. I couldn't find a PDF file. Maybe because I would need to sign in?

I'm trying to follow your information. You can add place-holder pages to keep 
numbering intack and then replace the blank pages with the pdf files.


By blended families do you mean families where two branches intertwined 
because of cousins, or step cousins/etc marrying. For a book, I would likely 
redo the whole part and use the report information, but edited.

Does Legacy add any text files as media? such as extracted obits or stories?

If I thought a pdf creator with Legacy was the answer (if my open source 
program didn't work) I would purchase one. Then would you cut and paste the 
legacy report into it before editing?

For my first small book, I used Word Perfect. It was frustrating, because 
sometimes the photos or images would get pushed pages away from where I put 
them. Eventually I got it finished, but wouldn't want to do a large book that 
way. And now I use open office, not Word Perfect. A desktop publishing program 
that didn't cost a fortune might be the way to go. I think I used one in the 
distant past, but it too had it's quirks. For my second small book I used 
Photoshop but obviously that's not ideal for a book.


So many options and none are perfect. But Legacy will be the base for any final 
program so it will have to work with reports. I hope I don't sound too 
confusing; if I do it's because I'm confused. ;)





 From: Jan Roberts poo...@ozemail.com.au
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 2:20 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Link to a site that has a nice way of presenting the 
family info

If you’d like to have a look at a ‘book’ I’ve generate from Legacy go to 
http://www.branchesandtwigs.wikispace.com
Scroll down the left hand side until you get to a link to Descendants of 
Thomas SULLIVAN. Click on that, then click on the link to Descendants of 
Thomas SULLIVAN.pdf.  That will take you to a report I generated in Legacy.  I 
quite like the pdf output from Legacy  - I guess the only drawbacks are that 
all of the images are in a line down the right hand side, and some of the 
images are too small to read the text.
Legacy doesn’t print other ‘media’ files attached to your report, for example 
pdf files.  You would have to print and add them separately for your book. I 
haven’t used the publishing centre in Legacy, but I believe you can add 
place-holder pages which keep page numbering intact and you can replace the 
‘blank pages with your pdf files.  Another drawback is that in the case of 
‘blended’ families, which I like to include because I am more a family 
historian than a true genealogist, people who are included in two (or dare I 
say more) marriages have all of their information printed twice (or more) even 
if you have selected to not include duplicate lines.  As I don’t have a pdf 
creator program I can’t edit my Legacy generated pdf’s and remove the surplus 
entries.  I tried using rtf format, but found that removing great chunks of 
text messed up pagination and image placement among other things so I have 
opted for pdf and leave the
 duplicate info.  Because I publish as a wiki rather than an actual book I am 
able to add extra photos, pdfs etc. to my wiki site.

Cheers
Jan
From: Marg Strong [mailto:tiny...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 28 February 2012 14:46
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Link to a site that has a nice way of presenting the 
family info

Actually, I was looking at it more from the viewpoint of printing out a book 
than as a website presentation. I liked the interspersing of images with text 
since I think the average person not into family history might find that more 
interesting. I would make changes, but it added to my ideas for presenting a 
book. I'm not sure how legacy prints out the media files with reports 
because I am far from learning that as yet.






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Re: [LegacyUG] Link to a site that has a nice way of presenting the family info

2012-02-28 Thread Les Williamson
Peggy
I produced a PDF from Legacy and used PDF software called Nitro (it’s much less 
expensive than Acrobat) and I can then do further editing, adding text, 
pictures etc. This is not the PDF reader software which is free, this is 
software that you have to purchase (there is a 2 week free trial period) for 
about £60 sterling (guessing about $100 US) that lets you work within the 
actual PDF.
That is exactly how I produced that sample book, but I have to be honest and 
say that I normally use a desk top publishing program called Quark Express, 
although the cost is not justifiable for the average person (about $1,000 US).
As far as the content of the book goes, just using Legacy can restrict you a 
bit to more or less the historical aspect, my sample was to throw some other 
ideas into the publication. The finished article will then have much more 
appeal to others, almost a book to leave on the coffee table!
I would always start by making a “Legacy Report”, it still does most of the 
work for you.
Les
PS Did you like the montages?

From: Marg Strong
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:33 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Link to a site that has a nice way of presenting the 
family info

I really enjoyed looking at your book example and it's encouraging that it was 
produced mostly with Legacy reports. As I looked it over, other ideas came to 
mind and I jotted them down.


I'm not sure what you mean by learning more, but not on PDFs. I have open 
source software that produces PDF files, but at this point have so much to 
learn about legacy that it will be awhile before I am at the place of using it. 
Did you mean more tips on how you enter information into legacy? I am always 
interested in that, since I still have so much to enter.
Peggy




--
  From: Les Williamson les-william...@ntlworld.com
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 1:53 AM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Link to a site that has a nice way of presenting the 
family info


  I have mentioned my website before and don’t want to appear to be promoting 
it again, however there is a lot of tips and help in it that is worth 
absorbing. Here is a link to a PDF on the site 
http://www.familytreebooksandcharts.com/products/family-tree-books/example-content/
 The book was almost all produced using the “Legacy reports”. Some seasoned 
users will spot some of the “Legacy” deficiencies, and in fairness to Legacy, 
if I spent more time mastering all of it’s features, I could probably overcome 
many of them.

  If anybody wants to learn more (and is prepared to spend a little money 
buying PDF software) I am more than happy to give you full instructions (not 
lessons on PDFs).

  Les
  Bonnie Scotland


  From: Marg Strong
  Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:46 AM
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Link to a site that has a nice way of presenting the 
family info

  Actually, I was looking at it more from the viewpoint of printing out a 
book than as a website presentation. I liked the interspersing of images with 
text since I think the average person not into family history might find that 
more interesting. I would make changes, but it added to my ideas for presenting 
a book. I'm not sure how legacy prints out the media files with reports 
because I am far from learning that as yet.





From: Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 6:38 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Link to a site that has a nice way of presenting 
the family info


Definitely more contrast! A lot of us have vision problems which
require good contrast.

If I had found that site through a google search of my surnames, I
would have immediately backed out of it because it's too hard to read
and, if I could find your contact info, send you an email to that
fact!

Check out www.WebAim.org for information on web accessibility for
those with vision and other disabilities.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Paula Ryburn
paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 That certainly is nicely done, though I would have more contrast between
 background and font color.  I'm sure others on this list will be chiming 
in
 on how feasible it is to expect that sort of output from Legacy.

 --Paula in Texas



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Re: [LegacyUG] MRIN filing

2012-02-28 Thread Kay Fordham
I have never found any big gaps in MRINs. If I notice a gap here and there I
simply renumber from the latest entry(s).

Kay

- Original Message -
From: Michele Lewis ancestor...@gmail.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:46 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] MRIN filing


Exactly, Sherry.  My point is, you could never do this if you use MRINs for
your filing system because it will cause some of  your MRIN numbers to
change.

Michele


-Original Message-
From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:20 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] MRIN filing

If you have big gaps in RINs or MRINs, you would need to go to Tools 
Renumber RINs to compact the file, effectively removing the unused space.
This is probably what Michele is referring to..

File  FIle Maintenance  Check/Repair or Compact Famly File don't affect
the RINs or MRINs.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Tim Rosenlof spa...@xmission.com wrote:
 Why not ? It does not change my mirns or rins.

 Tim Rosenlof

 On 2/28/2012 12:07 PM, Michele Lewis wrote:

 I guess those people that us MRINs for their filing system never use
 the renumber RINS/MRINS to compact their file?



 Michele



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RE: [LegacyUG] Removing children listed twice

2012-02-28 Thread Jan Roberts
Can't remember if I've made a 'formal' suggestion - but I do seem to remember 
that Support noted the problem in the past.  I will submit a formal suggestion 
now.

Cheers
Jan
-Original Message-
From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 29 February 2012 06:31
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Removing children listed twice

Have you submitted a suggestion on what is displayed for subsequent
listings of the duplicates along with the this is a duplicate line
cross-reference?

Brian
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On 28/02/2012 1:04 AM, Jan Roberts wrote:
 Yes, but unfortunately if you have events for the duplicate person the events 
 are all printed twice and THEN it brings the Duplicate Line feature into 
 play.  i.e. the Line isn't duplicated, but the first duplicate person in each 
 line IS.  I would like to see where the name and events are included once, 
 and then only the name (and perhaps vital dates, but certainly not events) 
 repeated subsequently.

 Cheers
 Jan







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Re: [LegacyUG] Link to a site that has a nice way of presenting the family info

2012-02-28 Thread Marg Strong
Thank you for the Links. Your example is helpful. That's what I did with my 
small book in 2005, I used Legacy for the skeleton and rewrote it for my family.


I checked the Hatcher book on Amazon and there is another one that looks good 
also. I'll check my local library and store to look them over first. I wonder 
if anyone ever published a book on using Legacy as the base of a Family History 
book? There is one on Amazon for Family Tree Maker, but my version (12) is too 
buggy to depend on.


I am not interested in formally publishing anything, just something for family 
members, but it looks like there is a lot of useful information in those books. 
I wonder how much of it would help in tips on entering information into Legacy. 
It would probably be more helpful as I learn the program better. There are 
different ways and ideas on entering data and I guess I'll learn by trial and 
error. 

Peggy






 From: Gavin Nicholson gavn...@hotmail.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 4:14 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Link to a site that has a nice way of presenting the 
family info


I will add my vote to those that use Legacy just as a database and not a 
report generating tool. This link is an excerpt from my book which I did in 
Word:
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?0y7d08opdwcjsg7
 
If I was starting again I would possibly use Legacy to produce the skeleton of 
the book and then I would re-write it from there.
 
I used Patricia Law Hatcher’s book “Producing a Quality Family History” as my 
guide. I am onto my second book now which is just an addendum to the first. 
You have to stop sometime or you will never produce anything!! I tried where I 
could to flesh out the names, dates, places with history to put it into 
context and make it interesting, which I had mixed success with as some people 
have so little information about them to begin with. I firmly believe no one 
will read it if you don’t do that. I liked chapter 4 of this: 
http://familystories.shancjackson.com/Tapestry_Downer.html as it really 
intertwined history with the family.
 
Thought you might like some more ideas.
Gavin...
 
From:Marg Strong [mailto:tiny...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 28 February 2012 1:46 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Link to a site that has a nice way of presenting the 
family info
 
Actually, I was looking at it more from the viewpoint of printing out a book 
than as a website presentation. I liked the interspersing of images with text 
since I think the average person not into family history might find that more 
interesting. I would make changes, but it added to my ideas for presenting a 
book. I'm not sure how legacy prints out the media files with reports 
because I am far from learning that as yet.
 



From:Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 6:38 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Link to a site that has a nice way of presenting the 
family info

Definitely more contrast! A lot of us have vision problems which
require good contrast.

If I had found that site through a google search of my surnames, I
would have immediately backed out of it because it's too hard to read
and, if I could find your contact info, send you an email to that
fact!

Check out www.WebAim.org for information on web accessibility for
those with vision and other disabilities.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Paula Ryburn
paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 That certainly is nicely done, though I would have more contrast between
 background and font color.  I'm sure others on this list will be chiming in
 on how feasible it is to expect that sort of output from Legacy.

 --Paula in Texas



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Re: [LegacyUG] Link to a site that has a nice way of presenting the family info

2012-02-28 Thread Marg Strong
Yes, I enjoyed the montages very much. You need a lot of photos though! You put 
a lot of work into just that sample. I feel so far behind on all of this.
And that is exactly what I would hope to print, a book that relatives would 
enjoy on their coffee table. :)

All I want for Christmas is a fairy godmother at my shoulder showing me the 
best way to enter information into Legacy, so that what comes out will need the 
least amount of work to make my book in the end. Not much, right!

Peggy





 From: Les Williamson les-william...@ntlworld.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Link to a site that has a nice way of presenting the 
family info


Peggy
I produced a PDF from Legacy and used PDF software called Nitro (it’s much
less expensive than Acrobat) and I can then do further editing, adding text,
pictures etc. This is not the PDF reader software which is free, this is
software that you have to purchase (there is a 2 week free trial period) for
about £60 sterling (guessing about $100 US) that lets you work within the actual
PDF.
That is exactly how I produced that sample book, but I have to be honest
and say that I normally use a desk top publishing program called Quark Express,
although the cost is not justifiable for the average person (about $1,000
US).
As far as the content of the book goes, just using Legacy can restrict you
a bit to more or less the historical aspect, my sample was to throw some other
ideas into the publication. The finished article will then have much more appeal
to others, almost a book to leave on the coffee table!
I would always start by making a “Legacy Report”, it still does most of the
work for you.
LesPS Did you like the montages?
 
From: Marg Strong
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:33 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Link to a site that has a nice way of
presenting the family info
  I really enjoyed looking at your book example and it's encouraging
that it was produced mostly with Legacy reports. As I looked it over, other
ideas came to mind and I jotted them down.


I'm not sure what you mean by learning more, but not on PDFs. I have
open source software that produces PDF files, but at this point have so much to
learn about legacy that it will be awhile before I am at the place of using it.
Did you mean more tips on how you enter information into legacy? I am always
interested in that, since I still have so much to enter.
Peggy





 From: Les Williamson les-william...@ntlworld.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 1:53 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Link to a site that has a nice way of presenting the 
family info

 
I have mentioned my website before and don’t want to appear to be promoting 
it again, however there is a lot of tips and help in it that is worth 
absorbing. Here is a link to a PDF on the site 
http://www.familytreebooksandcharts.com/products/family-tree-books/example-content/
 The book was almost all produced using the “Legacy reports”. Some seasoned 
users will spot some of the “Legacy” deficiencies, and in fairness to Legacy, 
if I spent more time mastering all of it’s features, I could probably 
overcome many of them.
 
If anybody wants to learn more (and is prepared to spend a little money 
buying PDF software) I am more than happy to give you full instructions (not 
lessons on PDFs).
 
Les
Bonnie Scotland
  
From: Marg Strong
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:46 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Link to a site that has a nice way of presenting the 
family info
  Actually, I was looking at it more from the viewpoint of printing out a 
book than as a website presentation. I liked the interspersing of images 
with text since I think the average person not into family history might find 
that more interesting. I would make changes, but it added to my ideas for 
presenting a book. I'm not sure how legacy prints out the media files with 
reports because I am far from learning that as
yet.





 From: Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 6:38 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Link to a site that has a nice way of presenting the 
family info

Definitely more contrast! A lot of us have vision
problems which
require good contrast.

If I had found that site
through a google search of my surnames, I
would have immediately backed
out of it because it's too hard to read
and, if I could find your contact
info, send you an email to that
fact!

Check out www.WebAim.org for information on web accessibility for
those with vision and other
disabilities.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy
Family Tree



On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Paula
Ryburn
paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 That certainly is nicely done, 

[LegacyUG] Re: Merging a gedcom into Legacy

2012-02-28 Thread Brian Lehman
I'm doing that right know.
I down loaded a GEDCOM from Acom and entered it into Legacy, save with a
different name so no confusion.
The data in the Acom ged was very different than what I wanted in my
Legacy file,
so I could/didn't want to do a merge.
What I am doing is, following the sources in the Acom Legacy file,
tagging them, say New York City births,
then with both my main Legacy file and the Acom file open in split
windows,I follow the tags in Acom,
then go the the same person in my main Legacy tree, then open the Acom
tree online and find the person and the record I want to transfer.
Then copy from online Acom and enter the data into my main Legacy file.
Tedious, but I'm finding the records I added to my online Acom tree and
entering them into my main Legacy file.
Good luck and take care.
Brian





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RE: [LegacyUG] Re: Merging a gedcom into Legacy

2012-02-28 Thread Carl Cox


The merge in Legacy is one reason why I went to it in the first place.
It intelligently looks for merges, and finds nearly all potential merges
just given a simple start. It will also automatically merge identical
records.

I don't know how it handles sources or events, however. But most GEDCOMs
don't handle them properly, either. Legacy lets you look at the
differences and decide which to use, and allows you to keep both
different items if you wish.

Carl




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[LegacyUG] Re: Merging a gedcom into Legacy

2012-02-28 Thread Brian Lehman
When I opened the Acom gedcom in Legacy,there wasn't much I wanted to merge.
That's why I just use the gedcom to find what sources/documents are
attached to a person in the Acom gedcom,
and take the data from Acom online and enter it directly,the way I want
into my Legacy file.

Brian



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Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Merging a gedcom into Legacy

2012-02-28 Thread Marg Strong
Thanks, Carl. I'll find out as much as I can and then just do it. By the way, 
the new files I bought on the special, Genwatch and I can't remember the name 
of the other one. I didn't know anything about them, but with such a good deal, 
I couldn't pass it up. Would either of them help? I'll also study how to use 
them if that is what either is meant for.

I'm so busy on Ancestry.com collecting so many family sources, I just don't 
take the time yet to learn legacy. I'm hoping I can import what I'm doing into 
Legacy, rather than cut and paste all the information.

I appreciate the input!
Peggy





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To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 7:59 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Re: Merging a gedcom into Legacy


RE: [LegacyUG] Re: Merging a gedcom into Legacy



The merge in Legacy is one reason why I went to it in the first place. It 
intelligently looks for merges, and finds nearly all potential merges just 
given a simple start. It will also automatically merge identical records.
I don't know how it handles sources or events, however. But most GEDCOMs don't 
handle them properly, either. Legacy lets you look at the differences and 
decide which to use, and allows you to keep both different items if you wish.
Carl

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Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Merging a gedcom into Legacy

2012-02-28 Thread Marg Strong
I did a search on Acom and I think it mean's Ancestry.com. Anyhow what I found 
was a lot of financial information about investing in it. Might not be a bad 
idea if you have any money lying around not doing anything. The prices are 
lower. Actually they are pretty high for subscribers and lower for investors.

So I'm off. Got to back up and get some sleep. four and a half months of my 
subscription left and I'm far from done with just my mother's family. How I 
wish I had the time to learn more about Legacy right now! It's so good to find 
sources for a lot of unsourced information people sent me.

Peggy





 From: Brian Lehman blr...@optonline.net
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 8:13 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Re: Merging a gedcom into Legacy

When I opened the Acom gedcom in Legacy,there wasn't much I wanted to merge.
That's why I just use the gedcom to find what sources/documents are
attached to a person in the Acom gedcom,
and take the data from Acom online and enter it directly,the way I want
into my Legacy file.

Brian



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Re: [LegacyUG] Hand Held Devices for Legacy

2012-02-28 Thread Sherry/Support
You'll need to contact TelGen for help with Families.

Their website is http://www.telgen.co.uk/families/ where there's a
link to a user forum or you can contact them by email to
famil...@telgen.co.uk

Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
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On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 7:52 PM, PM dign...@yahoo.com wrote:
 I did go through the Legacy website.
 Everything thing had been updated. Everything seemed to be going well. It
 was in the process of converting Legacy Files to Sqlite format and then when
 it got to :tblMR-1100 records  (note: not sure about the 3rd letter that l
 might be an I or a 1 or a /)
 and the following message came up:
 Operation aborted
 The provider couldn't determine the object value.
 For example. the row was just created, the default for the object column was
 not available, and the consumer had not yet set a new object value.

 We have no idea what this means. Can anyone help us get this completed?


 Thanks, Peggy



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[LegacyUG] Suggestion to add Relationship column to Index

2012-02-28 Thread hwedhlor
I just submitted a suggestion to add the option to display a
Relationship column to the Index view.

John Zimmerman
Mesa, AZ



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RE: [LegacyUG] Suggestion to add Relationship column to Index

2012-02-28 Thread CE WOOD

That is already possible.  When in the Index view, click Options.  At the end 
of each Field Name, there is a box containing three dots.  Click on the box at 
the end of the first empty Field Name.   A list of Field Names to Display comes 
up.  Select Relationship from that list.  It will be added to your list of 
Field Names.  You can move any Field Name up and down to any position you wish.

CE  From: hwedh...@cox.net
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 Subject: [LegacyUG] Suggestion to add Relationship column to Index
 Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 22:58:40 -0700

 I just submitted a suggestion to add the option to display a
 Relationship column to the Index view.

 John Zimmerman
 Mesa, AZ



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