Re: [LegacyUG] Patronym with no surname

[Bert van Kootwijk]

Small group??

Before 1811 many, many people in the Netherlands were only known by their
patronym. All dutch orientated genprogs have a field for patronymes. The
dutch translators for Legacy are asking and begging  for such a field. Yes
we can put in into the sunamefield. But it is not a surname. Some users put
a patronym into the given name field. However it is not a given name.
Besides that some patronymes changed into a real surname. So you cannot
always say as you see such a name: this is a patronym and that is a surname.
Only for that reason alone we need an apart field for patronymes.

Furthermore this is not a dutch problem alone. Many other translationteams
are asking for a patronymfield ( or similar ) for years. (At least since
version 2). We are hoping it comes with version 8.
This is one of the features what is really needed to transfer Legacy into a
real international genprog as it is advertised.

Bert
Dutch translationteam.


- Original Message -
From: "Tessa" 
To: 
Sent: Friday 27 April 2012 0:27
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Patronym with no surname


I thought that was the case Bill - and I make use of customization so that
pesky father's surname is not automatic.
Tessa

On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 3:16 PM,  wrote:

> My family is from Iceland and we  still use  patronymics to this day. I
> always put this in for the last name unless the  family has adopted a
> surname (
> those living outside Iceland usually) I fail to  see how it could be
> considered any thing else. The only feature in Legacy that  is a very
> minor hang
> up is the last name is automatically created when adding a  father or
> children. It is such a minor thing that it is not worth mentioning as  it
> only
> applies to such a small group of people.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill  Runolfsson.
>
> In a message dated 4/26/2012 1:03:28 P.M. Pacific Daylight  Time,
> ancestor...@gmail.com writes:
> According to the book, “Getting It Right”  by Mary H. Slawson (who uses
> Legacy for her examples)….
>
> The patronymic  names goes in the surname field UNLESS the person legally
> added a surname in  which case it goes in the given name field (page
>  44-45).
>
> Michele
>
>
>
> From: d [mailto:iamda...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 11:43 AM
> To:  LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Patronym with no  surname
>
> Legacy has a surname field, but no field for a patronym. (This  gap seems
> fairly common among genealogy software.) This means that one must  choose
> to
> treat a patronym as either a given (usually middle) name or as a  surname.
> Neither of these approaches is really correct and either brings
> challenges
> with indexing, reporting, grouping families, creating gedcoms,  submitting
> to
> nFS, etc. This is an issue for many generations of my Scandinavian
> ancestry, who did not have surnames until the late 19th or early 20th
> century.  Is
> there a standard way or strategy that others handle this?
>
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Fw: [LegacyUG] Drag and drop from one database to another

[RHS Consulting]

MessageCarl ... I needed to link the transfer to the new location .. it's aok 
now.  Q: How would I transfer a great many individuals all at once?  Richard

- Original Message -
From: Carl Cox
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 7:01 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Drag and drop from one database to another


<>

As explained earlier, the drag and drop does not merge or link. It adds to the 
new database as unlinked individual. If you would drag and drop his siblings, 
you could merge them, and Legacy would probably then notice that the one you 
dropped needed linking.

It is easy to link. In the new database, click Link to an existing son 
(daughter), [in a blank child space] and find the one that goes there. I 
usually include more of the family, parents especially, and when I merge them 
the children fall into place.

I assume there are notes and events that go along with the imported individual. 
If all you are importing is the information on the Add Individual screen, you 
can just edit and save the individual in the old DB, then add in the proper 
place in the new DB and click the  of each field to have it copy what was 
just saved.

Carl


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RE: [LegacyUG] Viewing step children

[Jan Roberts]

If you link a child to two families, although the child is recorded only once, 
but shows up in two families, you can set the child status, and child 
relationship to parents independently for each family.  For example, in Family 
View showing my husband and self, my step-daughter’s ‘status’ is Step-daughter 
of Jan (I created that label – a more generic label could be step-daughter of 
wife), her relationship to father is biological, her relationship to mother is 
step.  But if I view her in the marriage of my husband and his first wife all 
labels are blank because she is the biological daughter of both of them and I 
haven’t set labels.  On the Family View in ‘our’ marriage she shows as 
step-daughter of Jan,  on her biological parents’ Family View just her name and 
birth year are listed.



Cheers

Jan

From: Paula Ryburn [mailto:paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Friday, 27 April 2012 11:40
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Viewing step children



Just to clarify... I was having trouble because the family view of the 2nd 
marriage had no natural children, so there was no child to right-click on.  I 
went to the other marriage to right-click on a child's name and was able to 
turn it on.

Sorry to have started all this confusion.



However, once I link the two children to their step-father and set their 
relationship-to-father to "Step" --- the "1/2" goes away.  Is that right?


--Paula



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Re: [LegacyUG] Viewing step children

[R G Strong-genes]

Paula,
I just tested my file of my current marriage, I set the relationship as 
follows: For my children I set relationship to father as biological and mother 
as step and for her children I set father to step and mother to biological. The 
1/2 does not go away it should stay as 1/2 for that marriage because that is 
what they are/would be to any children born of that marriage.
So if in your file the 1/2 goes away then that means you linked both of them as 
biological/natural.
Russ

From: Paula Ryburn
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 9:40 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Viewing step children

Just to clarify... I was having trouble because the family view of the 2nd 
marriage had no natural children, so there was no child to right-click on.  I 
went to the other marriage to right-click on a child's name and was able to 
turn it on.
Sorry to have started all this confusion.

However, once I link the two children to their step-father and set their 
relationship-to-father to "Step" --- the "1/2" goes away.  Is that right?

--Paula





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Re: [LegacyUG] Option to include one space between fields?

[R G Strong-genes]

You did!

From: Marg Strong
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 8:51 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Option to include one space between fields?

I'm sorry if I already thanked you, Russ. I can't find it in my trash can if I 
did. The help file pointed to Data Entry. I found it with your clean directions 
and it worked perfectly!




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  From: R G Strong-genes 
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 1:56 PM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Option to include one space between fields?


  Peggy,
  Go to Options>Customize>Data Format Tab under Location Format are three 
options:
  Assure a space after each comma
  Remove spaces after commas
  Leave spacing as entered or imported.

  I like no spaces so I have the second one ticked.

  Russ

  From: Marg Strong
  Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 1:28 PM
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Subject: [LegacyUG] Option to include one space between fields?

  I have Brian's email open and have found how to use the search replace for 
locations. I want to get rid of "Co."

  But before I do that I need to know where to find the option to include one 
space between field (one after the comma) Many of my records came in with no 
space. I'm sure I saw this option, and thought I set it to what I wanted, but 
something is wrong, because many records don't have the space. Right now in the 
Search and replace, the location I'm looking at has this problem.


  I read the help file which said under the options >entry data, I should find 
the place to check my choice of how to handle this. It's not there. Is the help 
file not up to date or do I have a problem with my program?

  I really would like to have those spaces where I want them, if anyone can 
help. Not sure if I should finish search and replace until this is fixed, or if 
it matters, because maybe Legacy will automatically fix it with all locations, 
not just the ones I am currently entering?


  Thanks!
  Peggy


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Re: [LegacyUG] Patronym with no surname

[R G Strong-genes]

Bill,
Since it is an option that you can turn on and off, you could disable it
when you are doing your Icelandic research and enable it when your are not.
Russ

-Original Message-
From: runolf...@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 8:13 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Patronym with no surname

Thanks for that info, I have many lines that are  not using the Icelandic
naming system that it would be more of a problem if I  changed that. I love
this group. Everyone is so happy and willing to help.

Thanks again,

Bill

In a message dated 4/26/2012 4:15:02  P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
rgstrongge...@gmail.com writes:
Bill,
Go to  Options>Customize>Data Entry and the last box under Adding/Editing
uncheck "Add a default surname when adding a new father or child."
That  should solve your problem.
Russ

-Original Message-
From:  runolf...@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 6:16 PM
To:  LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Patronym with no  surname

The only feature in Legacy that  is a very minor hang
up  is the last name is automatically created when adding a  father  or
children.
Thanks,

Bill   Runolfsson.






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Re: [LegacyUG] Web pages for locations

[R G Strong-genes]

Tony,
The Gedcom is only used to build the tables for the database. Then you can
delete the gedcom from your site. You can configure the site to not allow
gedcoms.
Russ

-Original Message-
From: Tony Rolfe
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 8:02 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Web pages for locations

I looked at TNG some time ago, but I have one serious problem with it.
I will not put my GedCOM file on the net again.

There have been two cases where folk have downloaded my Gedcom and
posted it on their own site (one as their tree on Ancestry and one on
another site). In both cases they didn't bother changing anything, so I
am still person #1, my wife #2 etc. Makes it pretty obvious what
happened. Neither has had the courtesy to credit me with the work.  More
importantly, they don't credit the people who helped me and I find that
most annoying.

I did have a PHP version in my site but that is now gone.

Those sites are now WAY out of date, but I'm not going to go there again.

Cheers

Tony





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RE: [LegacyUG] Drag and drop from one database to another

[Carl Cox]

<>

As explained earlier, the drag and drop does not merge or link. It adds
to the new database as unlinked individual. If you would drag and drop
his siblings, you could merge them, and Legacy would probably then
notice that the one you dropped needed linking.

It is easy to link. In the new database, click Link to an existing son
(daughter), [in a blank child space] and find the one that goes there. I
usually include more of the family, parents especially, and when I merge
them the children fall into place.

I assume there are notes and events that go along with the imported
individual. If all you are importing is the information on the Add
Individual screen, you can just edit and save the individual in the old
DB, then add in the proper place in the new DB and click the  of
each field to have it copy what was just saved.

Carl



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Re: [LegacyUG] Event in marriages

[Paula Ryburn]

Gwen,  Please turn off/remove the image at the end of your email... Thx.

Now, did you actually add an event within the Marriage Information window, under
"Events/ Facts" ?  Or did you just record the marriage information (date,
location) and then update the status as "Divorced" (with date) ?

If you did not actually add an "Event/ Fact" for the marriage, then that icon
will not be highlighted.

For example, I enter census events for the marriage when I find the couple in a
census.  (Others might use the Residence event instead.)  But if it's just the
other basic fields for the Marriage, then that icon will not be highlighted.

Your key to know you have recorded the information is that (in Family View) it
is displayed in the horizontal bar above the children list.

Hope this helps!
 --Paula





From:Noddie <7thw...@ihug.co.nz>
To:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Thu, April 26, 2012 7:09:48 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Event in marriages

Hi everyone I have the latest update for legacy deluxe.


The problem I am having is with events for marriages.  I have a divorce and also
a marriage event which I noted for a couple and when I enable the event, come
out to the family view page of this marriage the event icon is not highlighted.
 I have tried this many times and cannot get it to highlight letting me know I
have documented the marriage.  I do not tend to use source writer as it confuses
me.  Is there anyone who can help me with this as I am probably doing it wrong.
 The list of assigned sources along with the notes icons are both highlighted as
I have notes in them.
Kind regards
Gwen


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Re: [LegacyUG] Viewing step children

[Paula Ryburn]

Just to clarify... I was having trouble because the family view of the 2nd
marriage had no natural children, so there was no child to right-click on.  I
went to the other marriage to right-click on a child's name and was able to turn
it on.
Sorry to have started all this confusion.

However, once I link the two children to their step-father and set their
relationship-to-father to "Step" --- the "1/2" goes away.  Is that right?
 --Paula



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Re: [LegacyUG] Child's name re-used by same parents.

[Paula Ryburn]

Thanks, Kirsten, for that tidbit!!  I don't have (6) but I do have a couple of
(2) instances. ;)
 --Paula




From:Kirsten Bowman 
To:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Thu, April 26, 2012 5:13:11 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Child's name re-used by same parents.

Stuart:

I doubt that your bolding issue is related to anything you've entered in any
of the name fields but wanted to give advice that you really didn't ask for:
_Getting It Right_ recommends differentiating between children in a family
with the same given name by adding a number in parentheses *after the given
name* rather than in the Title Suffix field.  In one of my Dutch families
where infant mortality was very high I have daughters identified as Janke
(1) all the way through Janke (6) and have experienced no problems with that
format.




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Fw: [LegacyUG] Drag and drop from one database to another

[RHS Consulting]

Ron ...

Thanks for your reply and the numerous other responses.

I realize that I am not performing a merge but a mere drag and drop of an 
individual from one database into another.  There is no merging impact since 
the individual is a child without family being dropped into another family 
where this child is missing.  Note: This was to be a test.  I have numerous 
drag-and-drops to do, mostly missing children.  I guess it becomes a merge 
operation under different conditions.

My setup is complete ... both databases are present on a split screen.  I now 
drag and drop the individual from database [old] into the children's block of 
the other database [new] ... either on top of children that are already listed 
or in a blank space.  Now Copy Between Family Files opens.  This may be the 
critical screen. Top left Copy From lists the individual from database [old] 
that is being transferred.  Beneath Copy To lists an unknown individual from 
database [new].  Which name goes into Copy To?  I now click on Just The 
Individual Involved and then Start Copy.  That's it.  The split screens open 
and my individual has not been correctly transferred into the specified 
location in database [new].  Instead, the transferred individual shows up in 
database [new] as an unattached individual.  It should haver shown up as a 
child in database [new] in the specified location where it was dropped.  That 
is my problem.  I hope I explained everything intelligibly.

Richard / NORCAL

- Original Message -
From: Ron Ferguson
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 5:24 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Merging of individuals from one database to another


Richard,

Unfortunately your email does not give us a real clue as to exactly what you 
are doing. It will help us enormously to help you if you spelt out for us, in 
baby steps, very precisely what you are doing. It only needs for a very simple 
mistake to be made for the process not to work.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/


From: RHS Consulting
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 6:18 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Merging of individuals from one database to another

I am a newbie to Legacy 7.5 Deluxe (and to this user group) with a problem 
about drag-and-drop merging of individuals from one database into another.  I 
seem to be following the steps that are described, however, the dropped name 
does not appear in the desired database location.  Instead, it appears in the 
database as an unattached individual.  What am I doing wrong?  Your help is 
appreciated.

Regards,
Richard / NORCAL


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Re: [LegacyUG] Patronym with no surname

[Marg Strong]

I haven't even begun to address this problem. Instead of surnames, the children 
have "last names" that indicate they are the son of so and so, or the daughter 
of so and so. Trying to figure out which record (and source) belongs to which 
person in ancestry.com is impossible for me; most of them are written in Danish 
to make it more difficult. I have a distant relative who has done extensive 
research and had someone help her with translations, so this is one case where 
I use her records (with her permission, of course.) She has sent me 
explanations of the naming conventions, that eventually I will have to wrap my 
head around. but for now there is a lot I have to do before getting that far. 
The records will be there for future generations if I don't have time to start 
digging into them.




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> From: Tessa 
>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 5:33 PM
>Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Patronym with no surname
>
>
>I put my Swedish and Norwegian names in the "surname" box and the farm names 
>in the suffix box (for my Norwegian folks). I make sure the box is marked in 
>the options section for not automatically including the father's surname and I 
>am good to go. You will note in the Swedish and Norwegian church records and 
>censuses that their names are listed "given name patronymic" and that is how I 
>find them in those records - so that is how I input them in my program. They 
>are also identified with their RIN and MRIN as appropriate (and it helps keep 
>track of the several Elof Larssons and Marin Persdotters). I put their aka for 
>when they changed their names here in America so I have more than one way to 
>find them. AND that is the point of a database program - how are you going to 
>find your people. NOTHING is cast in stone, make your program work for you.
>
>
>On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Marg Strong  wrote:
>
>I've got that problem with a Danish line. Very confusing. Haven't tried to 
>address it as yet. Hope you get an answer!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> From: d 
>>>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>>>
>>>Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 11:43 AM
>>>
>>>Subject: [LegacyUG] Patronym with no surname
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Legacy has a surname field, but no field for a patronym. (This gap seems 
>>>fairly common among genealogy software.) This means that one must choose to 
>>>treat a patronym as either a given (usually middle) name or as a surname. 
>>>Neither of these approaches is really correct and either brings challenges 
>>>with indexing, reporting, grouping families, creating gedcoms, submitting to 
>>>nFS, etc. This is an issue for many generations of my Scandinavian ancestry, 
>>>who did not have surnames until the late 19th or early 20th century. Is 
>>>there a standard way or strategy that others handle this?
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Viewing step children

[David Abernathy]

Adopted and step children are two different items.
Adopted are part of the family where step children are not.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Viewing step children

[CE WOOD]

Agreed!   There have been several adoptions in my genealogy, and the child 
involved is shown with two sets of parents, one biological and adoptive.  If 
you care not to show the biological parents, it is less messy to show.

CE
 From: ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Viewing step children
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 01:38:56 +0100









Genealogically speaking you are, of course,
correct, but they are family. So whether or not to include them is, I suggest,
dependant on the objective of the report.

Incidentally, it may not be widely known but in
English Law an adopted child has all the rights of a biological child, including
the same rights of inheritance from the adoptive parents as the biological
children. They also lose any rights which they may otherwise have from their
natural parents.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/



From: CE WOOD
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 1:28 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com

Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Viewing step children


Step children are not descendants.

CE




Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 20:22:18 -0400
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Viewing step
children
From: tbredinl...@gmail.com
To:
LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com




Releated Question.  How get the 1/2 kids to show
on the Descendant Report.




On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 7:29 PM, Jan Roberts 
wrote:

Seems to me the option is in the View option, immediately
  under the Children's Setting option when you right click on a
  child.

Cheers
Jan

  -Original Message-
From: R G
  Strong-genes [mailto:rgstrongge...@gmail.com]
Sent:
  Friday, 27 April 2012 04:02
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject:
  Re: [LegacyUG] Viewing step children


  I was referring to Brian's message saying to turn
  on the second option in the Children Settings Screen which I tried (help says
  to highlight child) but there is no option on that screen to view 1/2
  siblings. I know there was at one time because I have done it before but in
  the current version it is not working or I don't know how to view it in that
  screen.


  Russ



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Re: [LegacyUG] Child's name re-used by same parents.

[Marg Strong]

Or the child who died young was named after the father and, since having 
children carry on family given names seemed important, the next son/daughter 
was also named after the parent. That's what happened in my great grandfather's 
family. The Williams went on for generations until my brother and I had 
daughters and no sons and broke the mold. I had no desire to name a daughter 
after myself. It caused confusion sometimes when I was growing up. Even worse 
is my mother's line where almost every descendant has a Robert and a John and 
it's almost impossible to remember which one belongs to which family. My 
husband's family has the same problem but I will likely not have enough years 
left to start researching his family.

I need to come up with some kind of special ID numbers to keep all the Roberts, 
the Johns, etc., straight, the way one relative has done it.




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> From: mbstx 
>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 5:09 PM
>Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Child's name re-used by same parents.
>
>Jr. is something adopted much later in history.  It was common practice when a 
>child died young to name a subsequent child after him/her.  I've seen this 
>often in my own ancestors (in one case there was a father Henry, and 3 sons 
>Henry all of whom died young, until the 4th Henry died of old age).  I use 
>RINs to distinguish when discussing these children, and make notes in the 
>birth event that later child was likely named after the earlier deceased one.  
>Marianne
>
>-Original Message-
>>From: slease...@aol.com
>>Sent: Apr 26, 2012 1:11 PM
>>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>>Subject: [LegacyUG] Child's name re-used by same parents.
>>
>>I have an ancestor that had a child die the same  year he was born.  The
>>parents renamed their next child born (male also)  with the same name.  The
>>father's name was Samuel, the child that died was  named Samuel.  The next and
>>surviving child was named Samuel and is my  ancestor.  I can not find
>>reference to either of the sons having Jr.  attached to their names.
>>
>>Our family has adopted the method  of naming: Samuel father, Samuel Jr.,
>>and the subsequent surviving son  as Samuel Jr. (No. 2).
>>
>>I have lost the link designation of  bold font between the father and the
>>surviving son.  It picks up   correctly after that.
>>
>>My question before I begin big changes in  my Legacy records is: is this
>>problem of linking direct ancestors because  of the (No. 2) designation part
>>of my name entry?
>>
>>The (No. 2)  entry is in Title suffix.
>>
>>Stuart Lease>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Locations - Townships; census

[Marg Strong]

Thank you Brian! This will help a lot. So far I've been using google and it 
doesn't always pull up what I need. I've bookmarked the link
Peggy




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> From: Brian/Support 
>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 4:35 PM
>Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Master Locations - Townships; census
>
>Peggy,
>
>Here is a link to Official Canadian GeoNames web page.
>http://www.nrcan.gc.ca/earth-sciences/search/index_e.php This has links
>to a search form for names and will return the name of any locations in
>Canada along with the geographic coordinates. It even includes
>historical place names for places which are no longer used. A search for
>Ferris in Ontario returned two current names and, using a search of
>rescinded names revealed that Ferris was a township at one time but is
>now just an unincorporated area in other words it has no local government.
>
>Brian
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>On 26/04/2012 2:04 PM, Marg Strong wrote:
>> It's probably just me. At this point, I don't know if I'll ever want or need 
>> the townsnip names.
>>
>>
>> I've got a large group of Ontario locations that use the name; such as 
>> "Ferris"and sometimes "Ferris township" for the first field. I'm never sure 
>> if the record coming in from ancestry just was inconsistent, or if there is 
>> a town and a township and I shouldn't change it. I'll need to go back to the 
>> individuals and find out if its a town or township because for consistency I 
>> would always like to record "township" after the place unless it's a city. 
>> (Also I  like to keep all the info I find about the place, in case I want it 
>> somewhere down the line.)
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Option to include one space between fields?

[Marg Strong]

I'm sorry if I already thanked you, Russ. I can't find it in my trash can if I 
did. The help file pointed to Data Entry. I found it with your clean directions 
and it worked perfectly!




>
> From: R G Strong-genes 
>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 1:56 PM
>Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Option to include one space between fields?
>
>
>Peggy,
>Go to Options>Customize>Data Format Tab under Location Format are
three options:
>Assure a space after each comma
>Remove spaces after commas
>Leave spacing as entered or imported.
> 
>I like no spaces so I have the second one ticked.
> 
>Russ 
>From: Marg Strong
>Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 1:28 PM
>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Subject: [LegacyUG] Option to include one space between
fields?
>  I have Brian's email open and have found how to use the search replace for
locations. I want to get rid of "Co."
> 
>But before I do that I need to know where to find the option to include one
space between field (one after the comma) Many of my records came in with no
space. I'm sure I saw this option, and thought I set it to what I wanted, but
something is wrong, because many records don't have the space. Right now in the
Search and replace, the location I'm looking at has this problem.
>
> 
>I read the help file which said under the options >entry data, I should
find the place to check my choice of how to handle this. It's not there. Is the
help file not up to date or do I have a problem with my program?
> 
>I really would like to have those spaces where I want them, if anyone can
help. Not sure if I should finish search and replace until this is fixed, or if
it matters, because maybe Legacy will automatically fix it with all locations,
not just the ones I am currently entering?
>
> 
>Thanks!
>Peggy
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Viewing step children

[Ron Ferguson]

Genealogically speaking you are, of course, correct, but they are family. So 
whether or not to include them is, I suggest, dependant on the objective of the 
report.

Incidentally, it may not be widely known but in English Law an adopted child 
has all the rights of a biological child, including the same rights of 
inheritance from the adoptive parents as the biological children. They also 
lose any rights which they may otherwise have from their natural parents.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/


From: CE WOOD
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 1:28 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Viewing step children

Step children are not descendants.


CE



Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 20:22:18 -0400
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Viewing step children
From: tbredinl...@gmail.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com




Releated Question.  How get the 1/2 kids to show on the Descendant Report.




On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 7:29 PM, Jan Roberts  wrote:

  Seems to me the option is in the View option, immediately under the 
Children's Setting option when you right click on a child.

  Cheers
  Jan

  -Original Message-
  From: R G Strong-genes [mailto:rgstrongge...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Friday, 27 April 2012 04:02
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Viewing step children


  I was referring to Brian's message saying to turn on the second option in the 
Children Settings Screen which I tried (help says to highlight child) but there 
is no option on that screen to view 1/2 siblings. I know there was at one time 
because I have done it before but in the current version it is not working or I 
don't know how to view it in that screen.

  Russ


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Re: [LegacyUG] Viewing step children

[Ron Ferguson]

Link them to the appropriate 'parent' (i.e. the one to whom they are not
linked) and set the Child-Parent Relationship to one of the options e.g.
step, adopted etc. - if the one you require isn't there then add it.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/


From: Todd B
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 1:22 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Viewing step children



Releated Question.  How get the 1/2 kids to show on the Descendant Report.




On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 7:29 PM, Jan Roberts  wrote:
Seems to me the option is in the View option, immediately under the
Children's Setting option when you right click on a child.

Cheers
Jan




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RE: [LegacyUG] Viewing step children

[CE WOOD]

Step children are not descendants.

CE Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 20:22:18 -0400
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Viewing step children
From: tbredinl...@gmail.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com



Releated Question.  How get the 1/2 kids to show on the Descendant Report.




On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 7:29 PM, Jan Roberts  wrote:

Seems to me the option is in the View option, immediately under the Children's 
Setting option when you right click on a child.


Cheers
Jan

-Original Message-
From: R G Strong-genes [mailto:rgstrongge...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, 27 April 2012 04:02
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com

Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Viewing step children


I was referring to Brian's message saying to turn on the second option in the 
Children Settings Screen which I tried (help says to highlight child) but there 
is no option on that screen to view 1/2 siblings. I know there was at one time 
because I have done it before but in the current version it is not working or I 
don't know how to view it in that screen.



Russ


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Re: [LegacyUG] Viewing step children

[Todd B]

Releated Question.  How get the 1/2 kids to show on the Descendant Report.




On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 7:29 PM, Jan Roberts  wrote:

> Seems to me the option is in the View option, immediately under the
> Children's Setting option when you right click on a child.
>
> Cheers
> Jan
> -Original Message-
> From: R G Strong-genes [mailto:rgstrongge...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, 27 April 2012 04:02
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Viewing step children
>
> I was referring to Brian's message saying to turn on the second option in
> the Children Settings Screen which I tried (help says to highlight child)
> but there is no option on that screen to view 1/2 siblings. I know there
> was at one time because I have done it before but in the current version it
> is not working or I don't know how to view it in that screen.
>  Russ
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Patronym with no surname

[Runolfson]

Thanks for that info, I have many lines that are  not using the Icelandic
naming system that it would be more of a problem if I  changed that. I love
this group. Everyone is so happy and willing to help.

Thanks again,

Bill

In a message dated 4/26/2012 4:15:02  P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
rgstrongge...@gmail.com writes:
Bill,
Go to  Options>Customize>Data Entry and the last box under Adding/Editing
uncheck "Add a default surname when adding a new father or child."
That  should solve your problem.
Russ

-Original Message-
From:  runolf...@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 6:16 PM
To:  LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Patronym with no  surname

The only feature in Legacy that  is a very minor hang
up  is the last name is automatically created when adding a  father  or
children.
Thanks,

Bill   Runolfsson.








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[LegacyUG] Event in marriages

[Noddie]

Hi everyone I have the latest update for legacy deluxe.The problem I am having is with events for marriages.  I have a divorce and also a marriage event which I noted for a couple and when I enable the event, come out to the family view page of this marriage the event icon is not highlighted.  I have tried this many times and cannot get it to highlight letting me know I have documented the marriage.  I do not tend to use source writer as it confuses me.  Is there anyone who can help me with this as I am probably doing it wrong.  The list of assigned sources along with the notes icons are both highlighted as I have notes in them.Kind regardsGwen
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[LegacyUG] Web pages for locations

[Tony Rolfe]

I looked at TNG some time ago, but I have one serious problem with it.
I will not put my GedCOM file on the net again.

There have been two cases where folk have downloaded my Gedcom and
posted it on their own site (one as their tree on Ancestry and one on
another site). In both cases they didn't bother changing anything, so I
am still person #1, my wife #2 etc. Makes it pretty obvious what
happened. Neither has had the courtesy to credit me with the work.  More
importantly, they don't credit the people who helped me and I find that
most annoying.

I did have a PHP version in my site but that is now gone.

Those sites are now WAY out of date, but I'm not going to go there again.

Cheers

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[LegacyUG] Reuse abandoned RIN's

[Tony Rolfe]

Thanks to all who replied.  I use the RIN and MRIN for multimedia file
names, so there could be a possibility of clashes.

I think I'll turn the option off again and start to worry when my naming
convention runs out of digits.

Thanks again

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[LegacyUG] War casualty

[Tony Rolfe]

Thanks to everyone for the advice.

I hadn't thought of a memorial event.  It sounds a good way to handle it
except that it would appear at the end of a report, far away from the death.

My other thought would be to put the memorial location details in the
buried location and add burial notes to explain what really happened.

Like most things, I'll play around with it and see what works for me.
I've now got lots of options I didn't have before.

Thanks again

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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Locations - Townships; census

[Marg Strong]

Brian, thank you so much for this help. It has gone a long ways towards making 
cleaning up my locations faster.




>
> From: Brian/Support 
>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 12:52 AM
>Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Master Locations - Townships; census
>
>Peggy,
>
>Legacy does have a search and replace for the Master Location List
>Go to Search > Search and Replace
>Use the scroll down list to select Lists - Location to find and replace
>in the Long Location Name
>Use Lists - Location Short to search and replace in the Short location
>names.
>There are other fields in the Master Location List you can also change
>this way.
>
>Brian
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>Millennia Corporation
>
>
>
>


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RE: [LegacyUG] Viewing step children

[Jan Roberts]

Seems to me the option is in the View option, immediately under the Children's 
Setting option when you right click on a child.

Cheers
Jan
-Original Message-
From: R G Strong-genes [mailto:rgstrongge...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, 27 April 2012 04:02
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Viewing step children

I was referring to Brian's message saying to turn on the second option in the 
Children Settings Screen which I tried (help says to highlight child) but there 
is no option on that screen to view 1/2 siblings. I know there was at one time 
because I have done it before but in the current version it is not working or I 
don't know how to view it in that screen.
Russ






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Re: [LegacyUG] Viewing step children

[R G Strong-genes]

And the two are independent of each other, you can have one on and the other
off.
Russ

-Original Message-
From: R G Strong-genes
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 7:04 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Viewing step children

Brian,
I found the setting, I knew about that one. It was the one for the Siblings
List which I confused with the Children Settings. You have to bring up one
of the children and then click on the Siblings List and that window has a
check box to Show 1/2 Siblings.
Russ

-Original Message-
From: Brian/Support
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 3:22 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Viewing step children

The setting is NOT in Chidren's Settings. When you right click on a
child in Family View select the View option and you will see the show
1/2 kids on that sub menu.

Brian
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On 26/04/2012 1:41 PM, R G Strong-genes wrote:
> Brian,
> Where is the setting to turn on in the children Settings, I opened up the
> children settings and cannot find it. When I highlight a child and right
> click no options show.
> Russ





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Re: [LegacyUG] Viewing step children

[R G Strong-genes]

Knew about that and as I said it is the Sibling List screen where the check
box is located.
Russ

-Original Message-
From: Ron Ferguson
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 7:06 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Viewing step children

Russ,

It is still there, nor has it moved! Right click on a Kids Name, then
View>Show 1/2 Kids.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.lfergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: R G Strong-genes
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 11:56 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Viewing step children

Carl,
We are not on the same page. I know of those ways. I am specifically
referring to the window that opens when you click on "Children Settings".
There is suppose to be a way of showing 1/2 siblings on that particular
screen. It use to be there but not in the current version.
You can get to the same screen by going to View>Children List.
Russ

-Original Message-
From: Carl Cox
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 2:37 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Viewing step children

<>

Go to View (top line) >Siblings list and choose either parent, or click
on the siblings icon below the desired parent. Below the list of
siblings is the box to show 1/2 brothers and sisters.

Legacy has lots of ways to do much of it's capabilities.

Carl






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Re: [LegacyUG] Patronym with no surname

[R G Strong-genes]

Bill,
Go to Options>Customize>Data Entry and the last box under Adding/Editing
uncheck "Add a default surname when adding a new father or child."
That should solve your problem.
Russ

-Original Message-
From: runolf...@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 6:16 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Patronym with no surname

The only feature in Legacy that  is a very minor hang
up is the last name is automatically created when adding a  father or
children.
Thanks,

Bill  Runolfsson.








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Re: [LegacyUG] Viewing step children

[Ron Ferguson]

Russ,

It is still there, nor has it moved! Right click on a Kids Name, then
View>Show 1/2 Kids.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.lfergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: R G Strong-genes
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 11:56 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Viewing step children

Carl,
We are not on the same page. I know of those ways. I am specifically
referring to the window that opens when you click on "Children Settings".
There is suppose to be a way of showing 1/2 siblings on that particular
screen. It use to be there but not in the current version.
You can get to the same screen by going to View>Children List.
Russ

-Original Message-
From: Carl Cox
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 2:37 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Viewing step children

<>

Go to View (top line) >Siblings list and choose either parent, or click
on the siblings icon below the desired parent. Below the list of
siblings is the box to show 1/2 brothers and sisters.

Legacy has lots of ways to do much of it's capabilities.

Carl




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Re: [LegacyUG] Viewing step children

[R G Strong-genes]

Brian,
I found the setting, I knew about that one. It was the one for the Siblings
List which I confused with the Children Settings. You have to bring up one
of the children and then click on the Siblings List and that window has a
check box to Show 1/2 Siblings.
Russ

-Original Message-
From: Brian/Support
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 3:22 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Viewing step children

The setting is NOT in Chidren's Settings. When you right click on a
child in Family View select the View option and you will see the show
1/2 kids on that sub menu.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
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On 26/04/2012 1:41 PM, R G Strong-genes wrote:
> Brian,
> Where is the setting to turn on in the children Settings, I opened up the
> children settings and cannot find it. When I highlight a child and right
> click no options show.
> Russ



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Re: [LegacyUG] Viewing step children

[Sherry/Support]

To view 1/2 kids, right click on a child in the Children's List
underneath the parents and select View > Show 1/2 kids.

It's not in the Children's Settings window.  The Children's Settings
only shows the children of the couple in focus.

There never has been an option to Show 1/2 Kids in the Children's Settings.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 3:56 PM, R G Strong-genes
 wrote:
> Carl,
> We are not on the same page. I know of those ways. I am specifically
> referring to the window that opens when you click on "Children Settings".
> There is suppose to be a way of showing 1/2 siblings on that particular
> screen. It use to be there but not in the current version.
> You can get to the same screen by going to View>Children List.
> Russ
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Carl Cox
> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 2:37 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Viewing step children
>
> < in
> the Children Settings Screen which I tried (help says to highlight
> child)
> but there is no option on that screen to view 1/2 siblings.>>
>
> Go to View (top line) >Siblings list and choose either parent, or click
> on the siblings icon below the desired parent. Below the list of
> siblings is the box to show 1/2 brothers and sisters.
>
> Legacy has lots of ways to do much of it's capabilities.
>
> Carl



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Re: [LegacyUG] Viewing step children

[R G Strong-genes]

Carl,
We are not on the same page. I know of those ways. I am specifically
referring to the window that opens when you click on "Children Settings".
There is suppose to be a way of showing 1/2 siblings on that particular
screen. It use to be there but not in the current version.
You can get to the same screen by going to View>Children List.
Russ

-Original Message-
From: Carl Cox
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 2:37 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Viewing step children

<>

Go to View (top line) >Siblings list and choose either parent, or click
on the siblings icon below the desired parent. Below the list of
siblings is the box to show 1/2 brothers and sisters.

Legacy has lots of ways to do much of it's capabilities.

Carl





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RE: [LegacyUG] Attach every City Directory scan??

[julia m]

I see your point. Thank Walt and to others for your guidance.
Julia

From: waltsro...@gmail.com

I try to steer a middle course between lumping and making every source a master 
source.  I treat each year of a directory as a master source.  The publication 
date changes every year, publishers change occasionally, and some of the other 
info may also change.  From my perspective, that makes each year of a directory 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Patronym with no surname

[Tessa]

I thought that was the case Bill - and I make use of customization so that
pesky father's surname is not automatic.
Tessa

On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 3:16 PM,  wrote:

> My family is from Iceland and we  still use  patronymics to this day. I
> always put this in for the last name unless the  family has adopted a
> surname (
> those living outside Iceland usually) I fail to  see how it could be
> considered any thing else. The only feature in Legacy that  is a very
> minor hang
> up is the last name is automatically created when adding a  father or
> children. It is such a minor thing that it is not worth mentioning as  it
> only
> applies to such a small group of people.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill  Runolfsson.
>
> In a message dated 4/26/2012 1:03:28 P.M. Pacific Daylight  Time,
> ancestor...@gmail.com writes:
> According to the book, “Getting It Right”  by Mary H. Slawson (who uses
> Legacy for her examples)….
>
> The patronymic  names goes in the surname field UNLESS the person legally
> added a surname in  which case it goes in the given name field (page
>  44-45).
>
> Michele
>
>
>
> From: d [mailto:iamda...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 11:43 AM
> To:  LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Patronym with no  surname
>
> Legacy has a surname field, but no field for a patronym. (This  gap seems
> fairly common among genealogy software.) This means that one must  choose
> to
> treat a patronym as either a given (usually middle) name or as a  surname.
> Neither of these approaches is really correct and either brings  challenges
> with indexing, reporting, grouping families, creating gedcoms,  submitting
> to
> nFS, etc. This is an issue for many generations of my Scandinavian
> ancestry, who did not have surnames until the late 19th or early 20th
> century.  Is
> there a standard way or strategy that others handle this?
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Patronym with no surname

[Runolfson]

My family is from Iceland and we  still use  patronymics to this day. I
always put this in for the last name unless the  family has adopted a surname (
those living outside Iceland usually) I fail to  see how it could be
considered any thing else. The only feature in Legacy that  is a very minor hang
up is the last name is automatically created when adding a  father or
children. It is such a minor thing that it is not worth mentioning as  it only
applies to such a small group of people.

Thanks,

Bill  Runolfsson.

In a message dated 4/26/2012 1:03:28 P.M. Pacific Daylight  Time,
ancestor...@gmail.com writes:
According to the book, “Getting It Right”  by Mary H. Slawson (who uses
Legacy for her examples)….

The patronymic  names goes in the surname field UNLESS the person legally
added a surname in  which case it goes in the given name field (page  44-45).

Michele



From: d [mailto:iamda...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 11:43 AM
To:  LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Patronym with no  surname

Legacy has a surname field, but no field for a patronym. (This  gap seems
fairly common among genealogy software.) This means that one must  choose to
treat a patronym as either a given (usually middle) name or as a  surname.
Neither of these approaches is really correct and either brings  challenges
with indexing, reporting, grouping families, creating gedcoms,  submitting to
nFS, etc. This is an issue for many generations of my Scandinavian
ancestry, who did not have surnames until the late 19th or early 20th century.  
Is
there a standard way or strategy that others handle this?


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Re: [LegacyUG] Child's name re-used by same parents.

[Kirsten Bowman]

Stuart:

I doubt that your bolding issue is related to anything you've entered in any
of the name fields but wanted to give advice that you really didn't ask for:
_Getting It Right_ recommends differentiating between children in a family
with the same given name by adding a number in parentheses *after the given
name* rather than in the Title Suffix field.  In one of my Dutch families
where infant mortality was very high I have daughters identified as Janke
(1) all the way through Janke (6) and have experienced no problems with that
format.

If your family is used to the convention as you've stated it you may have no
wish to change, but others faced with similar situations may want to follow
Mary Slawson's advice.

Kirsten

-Original Message-
From: slease...@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 11:11 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Child's name re-used by same parents.

I have an ancestor that had a child die the same  year he was born.  The
parents renamed their next child born (male also)  with the same name.  The
father's name was Samuel, the child that died was  named Samuel.  The next
and
surviving child was named Samuel and is my  ancestor.  I can not find
reference to either of the sons having Jr.  attached to their names.

Our family has adopted the method  of naming: Samuel father, Samuel Jr.,
and the subsequent surviving son  as Samuel Jr. (No. 2).

I have lost the link designation of  bold font between the father and the
surviving son.  It picks up   correctly after that.

My question before I begin big changes in  my Legacy records is: is this
problem of linking direct ancestors because  of the (No. 2) designation part
of my name entry?

The (No. 2)  entry is in Title suffix.

Stuart Lease





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Re: [LegacyUG] Patronym with no surname

[Tessa]

I put my Swedish and Norwegian names in the "surname" box and the farm
names in the suffix box (for my Norwegian folks). I make sure the box is
marked in the options section for not automatically including the father's
surname and I am good to go. You will note in the Swedish and Norwegian
church records and censuses that their names are listed "given name
patronymic" and that is how I find them in those records - so that is how I
input them in my program. They are also identified with their RIN and MRIN
as appropriate (and it helps keep track of the several Elof Larssons and
Marin Persdotters). I put their aka for when they changed their names here
in America so I have more than one way to find them. AND that is the point
of a database program - how are you going to find your people. NOTHING is
cast in stone, make your program work for you.

On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Marg Strong  wrote:

> I've got that problem with a Danish line. Very confusing. Haven't tried to
> address it as yet. Hope you get an answer!
>
>   --
> *From:* d 
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 26, 2012 11:43 AM
> *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Patronym with no surname
>
> Legacy has a surname field, but no field for a patronym. (This gap seems
> fairly common among genealogy software.) This means that one must choose to
> treat a patronym as either a given (usually middle) name or as a surname.
> Neither of these approaches is really correct and either brings challenges
> with indexing, reporting, grouping families, creating gedcoms, submitting
> to nFS, etc. This is an issue for many generations of my Scandinavian
> ancestry, who did not have surnames until the late 19th or early 20th
> century. Is there a standard way or strategy that others handle this?
>
>
>
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Child's name re-used by same parents.

[CE WOOD]

Direct Line bolding is not affected by the name.
CE > From: slease...@aol.com
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Child's name re-used by same parents.
> Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 14:11:07 -0400
>
>
> I have lost the link designation of  bold font between the father and the
> surviving son.  It picks up   correctly after that.
>
> My question before I begin big changes in  my Legacy records is: is this
> problem of linking direct ancestors because  of the (No. 2) designation part
> of my name entry?
>
> The (No. 2)  entry is in Title suffix.
>
> Stuart Lease


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Re: [LegacyUG] Child's name re-used by same parents.

[mbstx]

Jr. is something adopted much later in history.  It was common practice when a 
child died young to name a subsequent child after him/her.  I've seen this 
often in my own ancestors (in one case there was a father Henry, and 3 sons 
Henry all of whom died young, until the 4th Henry died of old age).  I use RINs 
to distinguish when discussing these children, and make notes in the birth 
event that later child was likely named after the earlier deceased one.  
Marianne

-Original Message-
>From: slease...@aol.com
>Sent: Apr 26, 2012 1:11 PM
>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Subject: [LegacyUG] Child's name re-used by same parents.
>
>I have an ancestor that had a child die the same  year he was born.  The
>parents renamed their next child born (male also)  with the same name.  The
>father's name was Samuel, the child that died was  named Samuel.  The next and
>surviving child was named Samuel and is my  ancestor.  I can not find
>reference to either of the sons having Jr.  attached to their names.
>
>Our family has adopted the method  of naming: Samuel father, Samuel Jr.,
>and the subsequent surviving son  as Samuel Jr. (No. 2).
>
>I have lost the link designation of  bold font between the father and the
>surviving son.  It picks up   correctly after that.
>
>My question before I begin big changes in  my Legacy records is: is this
>problem of linking direct ancestors because  of the (No. 2) designation part
>of my name entry?
>
>The (No. 2)  entry is in Title suffix.
>
>Stuart Lease>




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Re: [LegacyUG] Attach every City Directory scan??

[Walt Quering]

Julia,

I try to steer a middle course between lumping and making every source a
master source.  I treat each year of a directory as a master source.  The
publication date changes every year, publishers change occasionally, and
some of the other info may also change.  From my perspective, that makes
each year of a directory a master source.

On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 11:00 AM, julia m  wrote:

>  In this case, is "lumping" a bad idea? E.g. the main source would be
> Philadelphia directory, and the source detail would contain the year, pg,
> detail text, etc.
>
> --
> Julia
>
> >From: waltsro...@gmail.com
>
> I have several family lines located in Philadelphia around the turn of the
> last century.  I create a master source for the (for instance) 1891
> Philadelphia directory, and separate details for each family line found
> within that directory.  An image of the cover or frontpiece for the
> directory would be attached to the master source, and an image of the
> appropriate page would be attached to the details for each family line.
>  When I have multiple individuals from the same family line on the same
> page, I transcribe all of the information into the detail text/comments,
> and just use the source copy function to attach identical entries to the
> appropriate events for each individual.
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Locations - Townships; census

[Brian/Support]

Peggy,

Here is a link to Official Canadian GeoNames web page.
http://www.nrcan.gc.ca/earth-sciences/search/index_e.php This has links
to a search form for names and will return the name of any locations in
Canada along with the geographic coordinates. It even includes
historical place names for places which are no longer used. A search for
Ferris in Ontario returned two current names and, using a search of
rescinded names revealed that Ferris was a township at one time but is
now just an unincorporated area in other words it has no local government.

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On 26/04/2012 2:04 PM, Marg Strong wrote:
> It's probably just me. At this point, I don't know if I'll ever want or need 
> the townsnip names.
>
>
> I've got a large group of Ontario locations that use the name; such as 
> "Ferris"and sometimes "Ferris township" for the first field. I'm never sure 
> if the record coming in from ancestry just was inconsistent, or if there is a 
> town and a township and I shouldn't change it. I'll need to go back to the 
> individuals and find out if its a town or township because for consistency I 
> would always like to record "township" after the place unless it's a city. 
> (Also I  like to keep all the info I find about the place, in case I want it 
> somewhere down the line.)
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Re: [LegacyUG] New: How to attach a picture in file

[Paula Ryburn]

Hi, Bill.  I am by no means an expert on this topic.  What I shared in my post
was what I remember of old and older threads on these topics, and mainly what I
had taken to heart from those threads.  To your specific points, the following
come to mind now:

(1)  Some people like to take it all with them stored on (say) a netbook when
they go on (say) research expeditions, and having all their photos as large
files in the Legacy\Pictures folder was not feasible.  Also, if what you are
mainly going to do with the images in/from Legacy is print, they will be small,
rather than 8x10's anyway.  I've found my JPG images of the census (about half
of my images in Legacy right now) are high enough resolution to view and pick
out details.  Truth be told, I don't have very many images for which I have two
copies.  However, other folks use their images to make other products (books,
gifts) and use various editing software<<
To:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Thu, April 26, 2012 2:09:15 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] New: How to attach a picture in file


>From this thread:  "... make a JPG copy (lower resolution & smaller file size)
for use in Legacy ..."

(1)  I am knew to Legacy and my plan is (or was) to keep the best available
image in the Legacy folder.  This might be a large .tiff image.  Why would I
want a smaller file size in my Legacy picture folder?  I have had no problems
with very large picture files in Legacy folder on my computer to date.
Performance has not been a problem.   However, I don't want to shoot myself in
the foot by keeping large images in the Legacy folder if this will cause
problems later.

(2) The post may also suggest that you have an ARCHIVAL strategy that is outside
of backing up the Legacy/Pictures folder for your quality images.  What might
that be?   Do you keep HIGHEST QUALITY images in "My Pictures" and back up
separately?


I do not know the Legacy publishing cycle (web and book publishing) and the
associated challenges and so I may be showing my ignorance here.

Bill



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Re: [LegacyUG] Option to include one space between fields?

[Brian/Support]

Peggy,

I checked the Help file and I see that there is an incorrect reference
to Options > Customize > Data Entry/Edit Tab. I have submitted a problem
report to have the Help Topic corrected since the reference should be
Options > Customize > Data Format tab.

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On 26/04/2012 2:25 PM, Marg Strong wrote:
> Russ, thank you. The help file said to go to the "Data Entry." Tab. Yours 
> worked. I knew I'd seen it somewhere! Now my record looks right and I can 
> start using the "search/replace" thanks to you and Brian from support.
> Peggy



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Re: [LegacyUG] Viewing step children

[Brian/Support]

The setting is NOT in Chidren's Settings. When you right click on a
child in Family View select the View option and you will see the show
1/2 kids on that sub menu.

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On 26/04/2012 1:41 PM, R G Strong-genes wrote:
> Brian,
> Where is the setting to turn on in the children Settings, I opened up the
> children settings and cannot find it. When I highlight a child and right
> click no options show.
> Russ



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RE: [LegacyUG] Child's name re-used by same parents.

[Carl Cox]

<>

Have you changed information on the No 2 ancestor since you set up the
bold direct ancestors? I suspect that you may have made some change that
made Legacy wonder. Try to set up the direct line again. I think it will
be bold.

Carl




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RE: [LegacyUG] Viewing step children

[Carl Cox]

<>

Go to View (top line) >Siblings list and choose either parent, or click
on the siblings icon below the desired parent. Below the list of
siblings is the box to show 1/2 brothers and sisters.

Legacy has lots of ways to do much of it's capabilities.

Carl




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Re: [LegacyUG] Attach every City Directory scan??

[Paula Ryburn]

Julia,
I think if I were so fortunate to find the city directories I need (just found
out Chicago stopped doing them about 12 years "too soon" for me), then I would
probably either lump them by city or by city/year.  It's not like you're going
to have as many cities as you do (say) counties in a census year, so I don't
think even city/year would produce "too many" sources.
 --Paula





From:julia m 
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Sent: Thu, April 26, 2012 1:01:32 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Attach every City Directory scan??


In this case, is "lumping" a bad idea? E.g. the main source would be
Philadelphia directory, and the source detail would contain the year, pg, detail
text, etc.

--
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RE: [LegacyUG] Child's name re-used by same parents.

[Michele Lewis]

Unless you have a record that specifically names one of the child as Jr then I 
wouldn't add it at all.  Just because he had sons with the same name as his 
doesn't mean they were a junior.  For one thing, do you have the middle names 
of the father and the two sons to know that they had exactly the same name?  
Another thing is, some people simply don't go by junior at all.  My son is 
James Sanders Lewis II.  His legal name doesn't have junior in it.

Michele


-Original Message-
From: slease...@aol.com [mailto:slease...@aol.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 2:11 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Child's name re-used by same parents.

I have an ancestor that had a child die the same  year he was born.  The 
parents renamed their next child born (male also)  with the same name.  The 
father's name was Samuel, the child that died was  named Samuel.  The next and 
surviving child was named Samuel and is my  ancestor.  I can not find reference 
to either of the sons having Jr.  attached to their names.

Our family has adopted the method  of naming: Samuel father, Samuel Jr., and 
the subsequent surviving son  as Samuel Jr. (No. 2).

I have lost the link designation of  bold font between the father and the
surviving son.  It picks up   correctly after that.

My question before I begin big changes in  my Legacy records is: is this 
problem of linking direct ancestors because  of the (No. 2) designation part of 
my name entry?

The (No. 2)  entry is in Title suffix.

Stuart Lease




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[LegacyUG] Child's name re-used by same parents.

[SLeaseman]

I have an ancestor that had a child die the same  year he was born.  The
parents renamed their next child born (male also)  with the same name.  The
father's name was Samuel, the child that died was  named Samuel.  The next and
surviving child was named Samuel and is my  ancestor.  I can not find
reference to either of the sons having Jr.  attached to their names.

Our family has adopted the method  of naming: Samuel father, Samuel Jr.,
and the subsequent surviving son  as Samuel Jr. (No. 2).

I have lost the link designation of  bold font between the father and the
surviving son.  It picks up   correctly after that.

My question before I begin big changes in  my Legacy records is: is this
problem of linking direct ancestors because  of the (No. 2) designation part
of my name entry?

The (No. 2)  entry is in Title suffix.

Stuart Lease




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Re: [LegacyUG] Viewing step children

[Paula Ryburn]

I am able to see the man's step children when viewing his marriage to their
mother.  (I went to her first marriage and right-clicked on the children's list
there.)  They show with the "1/2" in front of their names.  I was just wondering
if "1/2" is appropriate.

But now I see what was confusing about it:  This couple has had no children
together.  Therefore, the "1/2" looks weird to me.  If there were other children
in the list, then the "1/2" would make sense as a description of their
relationship to each other.  The "1/2" doesn't accurately reflect the
relationship between the stepfather and the children.

But that's okay.  I do know how to set the "relationship-to-father" field... no
need to reply back! ;)
 --Paula




From:Brian/Support 
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Sent: Thu, April 26, 2012 10:57:28 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Viewing step children

Do not forget that there is a second setting as well. If you open the
list of siblings for a person there is another setting there that has to
be turned on to show 1/2 brothers and sisters in the sibling list.

Brian
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Re: [LegacyUG] Option to include one space between fields?

[Marg Strong]

Russ, thank you. The help file said to go to the "Data Entry." Tab. Yours 
worked. I knew I'd seen it somewhere! Now my record looks right and I can start 
using the "search/replace" thanks to you and Brian from support.
Peggy




>
> From: R G Strong-genes 
>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 1:56 PM
>Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Option to include one space between fields?
>
>
>Peggy,
>Go to Options>Customize>Data Format Tab under Location Format are
three options:
>Assure a space after each comma
>Remove spaces after commas
>Leave spacing as entered or imported.
> 
>I like no spaces so I have the second one ticked.
> 
>Russ 
>From: Marg Strong
>Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 1:28 PM
>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Subject: [LegacyUG] Option to include one space between
fields?
>  I have Brian's email open and have found how to use the search replace for
locations. I want to get rid of "Co."
> 
>But before I do that I need to know where to find the option to include one
space between field (one after the comma) Many of my records came in with no
space. I'm sure I saw this option, and thought I set it to what I wanted, but
something is wrong, because many records don't have the space. Right now in the
Search and replace, the location I'm looking at has this problem.
>
> 
>I read the help file which said under the options >entry data, I should
find the place to check my choice of how to handle this. It's not there. Is the
help file not up to date or do I have a problem with my program?
> 
>I really would like to have those spaces where I want them, if anyone can
help. Not sure if I should finish search and replace until this is fixed, or if
it matters, because maybe Legacy will automatically fix it with all locations,
not just the ones I am currently entering?
>
> 
>Thanks!
>Peggy
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Patronym with no surname

[Marg Strong]

I've got that problem with a Danish line. Very confusing. Haven't tried to 
address it as yet. Hope you get an answer!




>
> From: d 
>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 11:43 AM
>Subject: [LegacyUG] Patronym with no surname
>
>
>Legacy has a surname field, but no field for a patronym. (This gap seems 
>fairly common among genealogy software.) This means that one must choose to 
>treat a patronym as either a given (usually middle) name or as a surname. 
>Neither of these approaches is really correct and either brings challenges 
>with indexing, reporting, grouping families, creating gedcoms, submitting to 
>nFS, etc. This is an issue for many generations of my Scandinavian ancestry, 
>who did not have surnames until the late 19th or early 20th century. Is there 
>a standard way or strategy that others handle this?
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Locations - Townships; census

[Marg Strong]

That is the way I'm doing it, thanks to the advice of the group.




>
> From: Sherry/Support 
>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 9:57 AM
>Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Master Locations - Townships; census
>
>That's not only the "general advice from the list" but the specific
>advice from Legacy when you import a new file, whether it be a gedcom
>or a Legacy file.  That's the reason the first option to create a new
>file is selected by default.
>
>
>Sincerely,
>Sherry
>Technical Support
>Legacy Family Tree
>
>
>On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 6:53 AM, Paula Ryburn
> wrote:
>> Peggy,  Again, I may not have read all your posts, but I think the general
>> advice from the list is to never download anything from (say) Ancestry
>> directly into your database.  Load it separately, clean it up and then add
>> it to your main database.  
>> --Paula
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Locations - Townships; census

[Marg Strong]

Right on both counts. I have an email open from Brian on search and replace and 
it will work, but am waiting an answer to another question before I use it.




>
> From: Paula Ryburn 
>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 9:53 AM
>Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Master Locations - Townships; census
>
>
>Peggy,  Again, I may not have read all your posts, but I think the general 
>advice from the list is to never download anything from (say) Ancestry 
>directly into your database.  Load it separately, clean it up and then add it 
>to your main database.  (I know this doesn't help you much NOW, but...)
>
>
>Further, I think there IS a "find and replace" feature..  
>surely someone here will comment on that?!
> --Paula   
>
>
>
>
>
>
>... Probably because the location list is a mess. Now I've learned I can clean 
>it up in ancestry.com by entering information from the source that they should 
>have transferred. But I think I'd rather clean it in Legacy. Then maybe upload 
>the file to ancestry as a gedcom.
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Locations - Townships; census

[Marg Strong]

I'm afraid you are right and spending all this time trying to get it right 
could be spent on clean up. I've got my videos working by converting from avi 
to mp4 so will watch them and take it from there, really "forging ahead. (I 
might have told you that.) Thanks, Paula




>
> From: Paula Ryburn 
>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 9:50 AM
>Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Master Locations - Townships; census
>
>
>Peggy,
>Based on what I've read here over the years, whenever one of us who does a lot 
>of research in the US starts talking about trying to fit US locations into the 
>"4" mold, and may or may not mention a non-US example, someone from outside 
>the US will comment in this fashion.  Nothing against them!  But, don't worry 
>about it.  Based on what I've read of your posts, you are trying to stick with 
>the "4" plan for US locations, and then you plan to enter into the non-US 
>realm with an open mind about how those locations may or may not "fit."  I 
>think you will do fine. ;)
>
>
>On the other hand, I don't think you will be able to totally avoid any 
>re-work.  It's the nature of the Legacy program that you are not going to find 
>out everything it can do for you until you are well into using the program.  
>The best advice I've seen (and given, if I may say so!) here is to enter a 
>couple of items one way and see how it turns out in various outputs; then try 
>it another way & check output; etc, until you see what you like.  Then forge 
>ahead!
>
>
>Also, please note that when I began I used the "book" reports almost 
>exclusively, so only checked how things looked in those.  In the past year or 
>so, I've tried to get more organized, and now I used the FGR the most.  So, 
>when you're testing, try even a couple of the "mainline" reports, even if you 
>have never used them before.
> --Paula
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Locations - Townships; census

[Marg Strong]

No problem. Not your fault. One name in the header and another in the signature 
is confusing. I am used to both names so it doesn't bother me.




>
> From: Paula Ryburn 
>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 9:43 AM
>Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Master Locations - Townships; census
>
>
>*Peggy* - please forgive me for not having read to the very end of your posts 
>to see you prefer "Peggy" !!
> --Paula
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Locations - Townships; census

[Marg Strong]

It's probably just me. At this point, I don't know if I'll ever want or need 
the townsnip names.


I've got a large group of Ontario locations that use the name; such as 
"Ferris"and sometimes "Ferris township" for the first field. I'm never sure if 
the record coming in from ancestry just was inconsistent, or if there is a town 
and a township and I shouldn't change it. I'll need to go back to the 
individuals and find out if its a town or township because for consistency I 
would always like to record "township" after the place unless it's a city. 
(Also I  like to keep all the info I find about the place, in case I want it 
somewhere down the line.)

Maybe the geo locator will be more helpful later. A few times it fills in 
blanks and gives me counties I didn't have. But then I'm thinking those 
counties might not be the county that was used when the record was made. I need 
to know a lot more about the geo locator before I start using it. I can see 
that if I have my town - parentheses township, it could be a problem because it 
wouldn't recognize the town. But I can't tell you how many towns I have in my 
list that it doesn't recognize anyhow. Maybe they are older and the database 
too updated. I think I'll learn more about using time lines and fill in my own 
blanks!

I do appreciate your input a lot, Paul. Thanks for taking the time!




>
> From: Paula Ryburn 
>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 9:42 AM
>Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Master Locations - Townships; census
>
>
>Marg,  I guess I have been able to determine in each instance whether the 
>event was in the town or the township.  So, I might have two locations in my 
>location list:  Sault Ste Marie, Chippewa, Michigan and Sault Township, 
>Chippewa, Michigan and assign the one that applies.  Putting the 
>township in parens might cause a hiccup in the Geo locator (which I think I 
>read in another post you have only briefly tried).
>
>
>Also, as another example, I'm sure the city of Chicago was in a "township" or 
>across several townships (?), but I never try to indicate township for 
>Chicago... heck, the city takes up the whole of Cook County now (I'm pretty 
>sure).  And to carry that example further, to censuses.  The Chicago 
>census pages usually indicate in which ward of the city the E.D. lies. 
> I will include the "_w7_" in the file name on the image, and I typically add 
>"(Ward 7)" at the beginning of the Notes field for the census Event.  That is, 
>I do not add the ward to the actual Location field... although, I 
>suppose you could.  My impression is the ward definitions have changed over 
>time, so that would just introduce a new level to the issue of a place 
>changing its place over time...  county boundaries moving, 
>"Massachusetts Colony," etc, previously discussed here on LUG.  I choose not 
>to add that complexity in the Location list.
> --Paula 
>
>
>
>Unless I enter it like this: Sault Ste Marie (Sault Twp), Chippewa, Michigan, 
>United States, I "lose" the information that SSM is in Soo Twp. I think 
>Barbeau, Chippewa County, Michigan, USA would be in Bruce Twp. (that's a guess 
>as to the township). I could put the Township in the note field if it the 
>parenthesis will cause difficulty down the line when I might want to do more 
>with my data. But as far as I can see this still keeps the four commas for 
>sorting purposes.
>
>Another problem arises when the town/city is the same name as the township. 
>How will I know if the person lived in the town or this is referring to the 
>township? Since I'm leaving off "County"  and just
 using "Chippewa, it doesn't seem consistent to enter "Soo/Sault Township, 
Chippewa, MI..." But maybe that is getting too picky. Maybe that is the way 
it's done. I'm just feeling my way to an entry system with which I'm reasonably 
comfortable.
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Viewing step children

[R G Strong-genes]

I was referring to Brian's message saying to turn on the second option in
the Children Settings Screen which I tried (help says to highlight child)
but there is no option on that screen to view 1/2 siblings. I know there was
at one time because I have done it before but in the current version it is
not working or I don't know how to view it in that screen.
Russ

-Original Message-
From: Carl Cox
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 1:48 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Viewing step children

<>

Are you in the Family view? I think that options show almost anywhere
you click on that view.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Attach every City Directory scan??

[julia m]

In this case, is "lumping" a bad idea? E.g. the main source would be 
Philadelphia directory, and the source detail would contain the year, pg, 
detail text, etc.
--Julia
>From: waltsro...@gmail.com
I have several family lines located in Philadelphia around the turn of the last 
century.  I create a master source for the (for instance) 1891 Philadelphia 
directory, and separate details for each family line found within that 
directory.  An image of the cover or frontpiece for the directory would be 
attached to the master source, and an image of the appropriate page would be 
attached to the details for each family line.  When I have multiple individuals 
from the same family line on the same page, I transcribe all of the information 
into the detail text/comments, and just use the source copy function to attach 
identical entries to the appropriate events for each individual.






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Re: [LegacyUG] Option to include one space between fields?

[R G Strong-genes]

Peggy,
Go to Options>Customize>Data Format Tab under Location Format are three options:
Assure a space after each comma
Remove spaces after commas
Leave spacing as entered or imported.

I like no spaces so I have the second one ticked.

Russ

From: Marg Strong
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 1:28 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Option to include one space between fields?

I have Brian's email open and have found how to use the search replace for 
locations. I want to get rid of "Co."

But before I do that I need to know where to find the option to include one 
space between field (one after the comma) Many of my records came in with no 
space. I'm sure I saw this option, and thought I set it to what I wanted, but 
something is wrong, because many records don't have the space. Right now in the 
Search and replace, the location I'm looking at has this problem.


I read the help file which said under the options >entry data, I should find 
the place to check my choice of how to handle this. It's not there. Is the help 
file not up to date or do I have a problem with my program?

I really would like to have those spaces where I want them, if anyone can help. 
Not sure if I should finish search and replace until this is fixed, or if it 
matters, because maybe Legacy will automatically fix it with all locations, not 
just the ones I am currently entering?


Thanks!
Peggy




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Re: [LegacyUG] Garbage!!

[Marg Strong]

Glad you explained. I thought I was losing it!  ;)




>
> From: Ron Ferguson 
>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 8:28 AM
>Subject: [LegacyUG] Garbage!!
>
>
>Please
accept my apologies for the coded post which I sent earlier this morning! It is
not a virus, nor a bug, simply me getting it wrong on a new machine!!
>
>Ron
Ferguson
>http://www.fergys.co.uk/
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RE: [LegacyUG] Viewing step children

[Carl Cox]

<>

Are you in the Family view? I think that options show almost anywhere
you click on that view.

Carl




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Re: [LegacyUG] Attach every City Directory scan??

[Walt Quering]

Jenny,

Thanks!  It's always good to know that someone else may be thinking along
the same lines as am I.  I frequently second guess myself because I know
that I tend to be more u... "retentive" than most.

On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 2:32 AM, Jenny M Benson wrote:

> On 26/04/2012 00:48, Walt Quering wrote:
> >
> > My only regret (maybe) thus far is that I have created a residence event
> > and (if applicable) an occupation event for each person mentioned in a
> > directory.  It may have been easier to just create  a directory event
> > and enter the appropriate information there.  However, I am still
> > evaluating that decision.
>
> I started of by creating a Directory Event, but after a while I changed
> them all to Residence/Occupation Events!
>
> --
> Jenny M Benson
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Viewing step children

[R G Strong-genes]

Brian,
Where is the setting to turn on in the children Settings, I opened up the
children settings and cannot find it. When I highlight a child and right
click no options show.
Russ

-Original Message-
From: Brian/Support
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 11:56 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Viewing step children

Do not forget that there is a second setting as well. If you open the
list of siblings for a person there is another setting there that has to
be turned on to show 1/2 brothers and sisters in the sibling list.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
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We are changing the world of genealogy!
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Thanks.

On 26/04/2012 11:30 AM, Jenny M Benson wrote:
> On 26/04/2012 16:17, Paula Ryburn wrote:
>> Truly, if the children are the wife's from a previous marriage,
>> therefore "step" children, should they show up in the current marriage's
>> children list as "1/2" ?
>> I do want to see the children.  (There are no children actually from the
>> current marriage.)
>
> Are you saying you want to see 1/2 children along with full children and
> aren't doing so?  If that is the case, right-click in the children's
> area, select View>Show 1/2 Kids.
>






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Re: [LegacyUG] Attach every City Directory scan??

[Walt Quering]

Julia,

I have several family lines located in Philadelphia around the turn of the
last century.  I create a master source for the (for instance) 1891
Philadelphia directory, and separate details for each family line found
within that directory.  An image of the cover or frontpiece for the
directory would be attached to the master source, and an image of the
appropriate page would be attached to the details for each family line.
 When I have multiple individuals from the same family line on the same
page, I transcribe all of the information into the detail text/comments,
and just use the source copy function to attach identical entries to the
appropriate events for each individual.

On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 6:27 PM, julia m  wrote:

>  Walt,
>
> Do you mean having a directory event for each of the directories you would
> use for an individual, or just one event and list all the instances that
> the individual was found?
>
> Julia
>
>
> From: waltsro...@gmail.com
>
> > My only regret (maybe) thus far is that I have created a residence event
> and (if applicable) an occupation event for each person mentioned in a
> directory.  It may have been easier to just create  a directory event and
> enter the appropriate information there.  However, I am still evaluating
> that decision.
>
>
>
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[LegacyUG] Option to include one space between fields?

[Marg Strong]

I have Brian's email open and have found how to use the search replace for 
locations. I want to get rid of "Co."

But before I do that I need to know where to find the option to include one 
space between field (one after the comma) Many of my records came in with no 
space. I'm sure I saw this option, and thought I set it to what I wanted, but 
something is wrong, because many records don't have the space. Right now in the 
Search and replace, the location I'm looking at has this problem.


I read the help file which said under the options >entry data, I should find 
the place to check my choice of how to handle this. It's not there. Is the help 
file not up to date or do I have a problem with my program?

I really would like to have those spaces where I want them, if anyone can help. 
Not sure if I should finish search and replace until this is fixed, or if it 
matters, because maybe Legacy will automatically fix it with all locations, not 
just the ones I am currently entering?


Thanks!
Peggy



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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Locations - Townships; census

[Marg Strong]

You are so right. I seem to be spending too much time trying to enter the data 
so I won't have to clean up, but learning is taking time from research. I 
finally got my videos, purchased from Legacy, by converted from avi to mp4 Now 
they work, so I'll watch them and then have a better idea what I'm doing ... 
hopefully.

The trouble with finding something on the archives is that I don't seem to have 
the knack for finding productive search terms. Didn't someone say you needed 
the actual subject of the topic to find something? I would like to read some of 
those pros and cons. If I had access to them, so far it's more that I'm hearing 
that some like it, some don't, I would soon have a better idea of the way I 
wanted to do it.


Thanks for your thoughts, Kirsten. (If you were "Bowerman, I'd wonder if we 
shared a line. :)  )




>
> From: Kirsten Bowman 
>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 10:15 PM
>Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Master Locations - Townships; census
>
>Peggy:
>
>The 4-field convention for locations (with placeholder commas for missing
>data) is a format used by many and hated by possibly an equal number (or at
>least with equal passion).  It's condemned by many as an American
>abomination but I get weary of that complaint.  Someone apparently needed to
>pick a number, and they picked 4 but there's nothing that says you have to
>use it and there are no "powers" trying to enforce it.  It works for some
>situations but not for others--even in the US.  Legacy allows you to use any
>format you want.  The pros and cons have been rehashed to death for years
>(see the LUG Archives).
>
>Personally, if I have a town for a location I don't also include the
>township, but that's my choice and you can do otherwise.  The purpose of the
>software is to allow you to record your research, and Legacy does an
>admirable job of that.  Data cleanup is one thing, but if you spend more
>time tinkering with the software than you do in researching, then I'd say
>"the emphasis is on the wrong syllable."
>
>Kirsten
>
>From: Marg Strong
>Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 6:04 PM
>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Master Locations - Townships; census
>
>I think I missed a lot of past discussion on this. I hear all the discussion
>and, being new, don't want to make mistakes that might cause clean up work
>in the future. It's unlikely I will ever get to the place where I could put
>a Tree on the web, let alone publish other than a book for my close
>relatives some day.
>
>
>Who is trying to impose it on the rest of the world? Legacy? The Family
>Search People? That's why I'm confused. Who are these "powers" who are
>making the decisions? And why does it matter? What effect will today's
>choices of entry, 4 or 9 or whatever, have on us later on?
>
>
>
>From: Mike Fry 
>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 5:38 PM
>Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Master Locations - Townships; census
>
>
>On 2012/04/25 19:46, Carl Cox wrote:
>
>> In New England Townships are essentially unincorporated cities, I believe.
>> In
>> many parts of the country Townships are a 6 mile square surveyed area. Not
>> all
>> states handle townships the same. You have to do what works for you in the
>> area
>> you are working.
>
>Here comes a cat to throw amongst the pigeons.
>
>So, why try and impose this awful 4-part location on the rest of the world?
>
>--
>Regards,
>Mike Fry
>Johannesburg
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Syncing my Legacy file with the Families app

[R G Strong-genes]

As far as I know it is not an automatic sync.
Russ

-Original Message-
From: Brian Lehman
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 10:46 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Syncing my Legacy file with the Families app

Hello,
I am syncing my Legacy file to the Families app on my iPad.
After several hours, I managed to load my file to display on my iPad and
it seemed to be working properly.
When I originally set it up, I chose to have it synced one way, write
from my desktop to Families,never from Families to my desktop.
My problem is, it doesn't seem to be syncing, as a test, on my desktop,
I changed the spelling of a name in my file
but it didn't change in Families. Isn't it supposed to? I thought it was
automatic,
Do I have to do a manual syncing to keep Families updated?
I would really appreciate some advice to keeping Families synced with
Legacy.
Take care,
Brian







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Re: [LegacyUG] Web pages for locations

[R G Strong-genes]

Tony,
Have you looked at TNG: The Next Generation of Genealogy Sitebuilding? This
is the link: http://lythgoes.net/genealogy/software.php and you can see it
in use on my website, the link is in my signature line. It will read your
GEDCOM file and it dynamically creates your pages.

Russell G. Strong
P. S. Check out Legacy Family Tree today! This full featured genealogy
program can be downloaded FREE at
http://www.legacyfamilytreestore.com/Articles.asp?ID=133&Click=1114
Oh so many branches and not enough time to check out all the roots!!!.
Check out my Genealogy Pages at http://www.rgstrong-genes.com .

-Original Message-
From: Tony Rolfe
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 11:02 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Web pages for locations

I'm not looking to do it inside Legacy.  I was hoping there was a
program external to Legacy which would read the Legacy DB and produce
the web pages.  All the info is there in the DB, it just needs
extracting and turning into HTML.  There are, I believe, a number of
programs which can read the Legacy DB and do clever stuff with it.

I guess there isn't one for this, so I'll forget it.

Cheers

Tony





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RE: [LegacyUG] Digest Version

[Linda Hauley]

Thanks, Everyone, I'll do as suggested and have it go in one folder to be 
reviewed later.

Linda

-Original Message-
From: Michele Lewis [mailto:ancestor...@gmail.com]
Sent: April 26, 2012 11:46 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Digest Version

That is exactly how I have mine set up.  All of the Legacy email goes into a 
separate folder.

michele

From: Paula Ryburn [mailto:paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 10:45 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digest Version

I don't think there is one.

I have set up a filter in my webmail to send these emails to a folder that is 
not downloaded into my regular email.  Then I peruse them in one lump, sorting 
on subject to delete all for a topic I have no interest in.

--Paula


From: Linda Hauley 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Thu, April 26, 2012 9:34:41 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Digest Version


Is there a Digest version of the Legacy User Group that I can subscribe to so 
that I don’t get hundreds of emails a day?  How do I unsubscribe to this Group 
and then subscribe to the Digest group?
Thanks.

Linda J. Hauley PLCGS
Guild Of One Name Studies #4335
- Canada East Regional Rep.
- VODDEN One Name Study





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RE: [LegacyUG] Patronym with no surname

[Michele Lewis]

According to the book, “Getting It Right” by Mary H. Slawson (who uses Legacy 
for her examples)….

The patronymic names goes in the surname field UNLESS the person legally added 
a surname in which case it goes in the given name field (page 44-45).

Michele



From: d [mailto:iamda...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 11:43 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Patronym with no surname

Legacy has a surname field, but no field for a patronym. (This gap seems fairly 
common among genealogy software.) This means that one must choose to treat a 
patronym as either a given (usually middle) name or as a surname. Neither of 
these approaches is really correct and either brings challenges with indexing, 
reporting, grouping families, creating gedcoms, submitting to nFS, etc. This is 
an issue for many generations of my Scandinavian ancestry, who did not have 
surnames until the late 19th or early 20th century. Is there a standard way or 
strategy that others handle this?


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[LegacyUG] Invitation: Genealogy Idol

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Anyone here interested in participating as one of the three presenters for
the upcoming Genealogy Idol webinar on June 9? You would teach three
five-minute presentations on different genealogy tips. Write to me at
ge...@legacyfamilytree.com if you are interested. The last Genealogy Idol
webinar's recording is at
http://www.millenniacorp.com/_videos/webinars/2012-02-02-idol/2012-02-02-idol.html
-
all had a great time.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
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[LegacyUG] Re: Today's webinar by Megan Smolenyak

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Yesterday's Legacy Family Tree webinar by Megan Smolenyak, "Reverse
Genealogy: Finding the Living" was one of the best ever! If you didn't have
a chance to see it live, view the recording at
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Webinars.asp#archives, it will be available
there free until May 7. The webinar coupon code of "megan" (10% off
anything in the online store) will be good through Monday, April 30.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
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On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 9:28 AM, Geoff Rasmussen wrote:

> If you're hoping to join us today for Megan Smolenyak's webinar, "Reverse
> Genealogy: Finding the Living" please join at least 30-45 minutes early.
> Only the first 1,000 to join will be able to get in regardless of when you
> registered. Nearly 2,500 have registered. If you get a message that the
> webinar is full, you'll be able to view its recording within a couple of
> hours of the webinar's conclusion. See you online!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Geoff Rasmussen
> Millennia Corporation
> ge...@legacyfamilytree.com
> www.LegacyFamilyTree.com 
>
>



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Re: [LegacyUG] Viewing step children

[Brian/Support]

Do not forget that there is a second setting as well. If you open the
list of siblings for a person there is another setting there that has to
be turned on to show 1/2 brothers and sisters in the sibling list.

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On 26/04/2012 11:30 AM, Jenny M Benson wrote:
> On 26/04/2012 16:17, Paula Ryburn wrote:
>> Truly, if the children are the wife's from a previous marriage,
>> therefore "step" children, should they show up in the current marriage's
>> children list as "1/2" ?
>> I do want to see the children.  (There are no children actually from the
>> current marriage.)
>
> Are you saying you want to see 1/2 children along with full children and
> aren't doing so?  If that is the case, right-click in the children's
> area, select View>Show 1/2 Kids.
>



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Re: [LegacyUG] Digest Version

[Ron Bernier]

Linda,

Legacy does not have a digest version.

Ron Bernier
Woonsocket, RI


On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Linda Hauley  wrote:

> Is there a Digest version of the Legacy User Group that I can subscribe to
> so that I don’t get hundreds of emails a day?  How do I unsubscribe to this
> Group and then subscribe to the Digest group?
>
> Thanks.
>
> ** **
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RE: [LegacyUG] Digest Version

[Michele Lewis]

That is exactly how I have mine set up.  All of the Legacy email goes into a 
separate folder.

michele

From: Paula Ryburn [mailto:paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 10:45 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digest Version

I don't think there is one.

I have set up a filter in my webmail to send these emails to a folder that is 
not downloaded into my regular email.  Then I peruse them in one lump, sorting 
on subject to delete all for a topic I have no interest in.

(What's "PLCGS" ?)

--Paula


From: Linda Hauley 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Thu, April 26, 2012 9:34:41 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Digest Version


Is there a Digest version of the Legacy User Group that I can subscribe to so 
that I don’t get hundreds of emails a day?  How do I unsubscribe to this Group 
and then subscribe to the Digest group?
Thanks.

Linda J. Hauley PLCGS
Guild Of One Name Studies #4335
- Canada East Regional Rep.
- VODDEN One Name Study



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Re: [LegacyUG] Viewing step children

[Jenny M Benson]

On 26/04/2012 16:17, Paula Ryburn wrote:
> Truly, if the children are the wife's from a previous marriage,
> therefore "step" children, should they show up in the current marriage's
> children list as "1/2" ?
> I do want to see the children.  (There are no children actually from the
> current marriage.)

Are you saying you want to see 1/2 children along with full children and
aren't doing so?  If that is the case, right-click in the children's
area, select View>Show 1/2 Kids.

--
Jenny M Benson



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Re: [LegacyUG] War casualty

[Paula Ryburn]

Loved this thread.  All new and useful info.  Thanks so much!!
 --Paula





From:Oregon Rain 
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Sent: Thu, April 26, 2012 8:42:57 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] War casualty

I entered Date of Death: 11 July 1943 (date on his death certificate) and 11 Jul
1944 (Navy official declared his dead) in a Death event.  'Cause of Death"
Killed in Action". In the 'Burial Place' I entered  "Buried at Sea off the
Southern Coast of Italy." I added a Burial Event showing he also has a'' Tablet
of the Missing at Sicily-Rome American Cemetery, Nettuno, Italy."

Constance


-Original Message-
From: Mike Fry [mailto:mike...@iafrica.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 12:01 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] War casualty

On 2012/04/26 07:55, Tony Rolfe wrote:

> How do you handle someone who was killed in action, has no known grave
> but is remembered officially on a Memorial Wall?
>
> I'm tempted to use the buried field, but there's no date for the burial
> (since it didn't happen) and although the location is a cemetery, he
> isn't buried there.

Presumably, the memorial gives a date, however approximate. So that would allow
you to enter some abbreviated death details. His service record might allow you
"fill in" more details. Also, what about creating an Event Type for "Memorials"
and then adding a "Memorial" event? Lets you have notes and a picture.

--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg



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Re: [LegacyUG] Attach every City Directory scan??

[Paula Ryburn]

I like the term "eventual aim" ;)  Me, too!
Thanks,
 --Paula





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Sent: Thu, April 26, 2012 10:11:09 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Attach every City Directory scan??

On 26/04/2012 14:31, Paula Ryburn wrote:
> Two events each?  Or one called "Residence/Occupation" ?

Two Events.
>
> Which outputs do you use most?  "Book" reports?  Charts?  Web pages?

Not a lot of output at all, so far, but usually Book Reports.  My
eventual aim is to produce a book, which will be based on Legacy Reports
but much edited in a word processor.


--
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[LegacyUG] Viewing step children

[Paula Ryburn]

Truly, if the children are the wife's from a previous marriage, therefore "step"
children, should they show up in the current marriage's children list as "1/2" ?
I do want to see the children.  (There are no children actually from the current
marriage.)
Feel free to say I'm getting too picky.

Thanks,
 --Paula in Texas
Researching:  Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman
Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field
Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle
Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn
Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams



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Re: [LegacyUG] Attach every City Directory scan??

[Jenny M Benson]

On 26/04/2012 14:31, Paula Ryburn wrote:
> Two events each?  Or one called "Residence/Occupation" ?

Two Events.
>
> Which outputs do you use most?  "Book" reports?  Charts?  Web pages?

Not a lot of output at all, so far, but usually Book Reports.  My
eventual aim is to produce a book, which will be based on Legacy Reports
but much edited in a word processor.


--
Jenny M Benson



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RE: [LegacyUG] Digest Version

[Linda Hauley]

PLCGS is Professional Learning Certificate in Genealogical Studies earned 
through the National Institute of Genealogical Studies and administered under 
the auspices of St. Michael’s College University, University of Toronto, 
Canada.  The website is www.genealogicalstudies.com.



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From: Paula Ryburn [mailto:paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: April 26, 2012 10:45 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digest Version



I don't think there is one.



I have set up a filter in my webmail to send these emails to a folder that is 
not downloaded into my regular email.  Then I peruse them in one lump, sorting 
on subject to delete all for a topic I have no interest in.



(What's "PLCGS" ?)



--Paula








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Re: [LegacyUG] Digest Version

[Paula Ryburn]

I don't think there is one.I have set up a filter in my webmail to send these emails to a folder that is not downloaded into my regular email.  Then I peruse them in one lump, sorting on subject to delete all for a topic I have no interest in.(What's "PLCGS" ?) --Paula From: Linda Hauley To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.comSent: Thu, April 26, 2012 9:34:41 AMSubject: [LegacyUG] Digest Version
Is there a Digest version of the Legacy User Group that I can subscribe to so that I don’t get hundreds of emails a day?  How do I unsubscribe to this Group and then subscribe to the Digest group?Thanks.  Linda J. Hauley PLCGSGuild Of One Name Studies #4335 - Canada East Regional Rep. - VODDEN One Name Study




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[LegacyUG] Digest Version

[Linda Hauley]

Is there a Digest version of the Legacy User Group that I can subscribe to
so that I don't get hundreds of emails a day?  How do I unsubscribe to this
Group and then subscribe to the Digest group?

Thanks.



Linda J. Hauley PLCGS

Guild Of One Name Studies #4335

- Canada East Regional Rep.

- VODDEN One Name Study










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Re: [LegacyUG] Merging of individuals from one database to another

[Brian/Support]

You are not doing anything wrong.

Legacy does not try to automatically link people who are copied from one
database to another by drag and drop. You have to make the links
manually if the copied person is new to the file or by merging the newly
copied person with one already in the file if they are the "same" person.

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On 26/04/2012 1:18 AM, RHS Consulting wrote:
> I am a newbie to Legacy 7.5 Deluxe (and to this user group) with a problem 
> about drag-and-drop merging of individuals from one database into another.  I 
> seem to be following the steps that are described, however, the dropped name 
> does not appear in the desired database location.  Instead, it appears in the 
> database as an unattached individual.  What am I doing wrong?  Your help is 
> appreciated.
>
> Regards,
> Richard / NORCAL



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Re: [LegacyUG] Merging of individuals from one database to another

[Mike Fry]

On 2012/04/26 07:18, RHS Consulting wrote:

> I am a newbie to Legacy 7.5 Deluxe (and to this user group) with a problem
> about drag-and-drop merging of individuals from one database into another.  I
> seem to be following the steps that are described, however, the dropped name
> does not appear in the desired database location.  Instead, it appears in the
> database as an unattached individual.  What am I doing wrong?  Your help is
> appreciated.

Instructions from the help:-

1. Open two copies of the current family file by selecting View / Split Screen.
  (For more information on how to do this, see How to Display Another
Family/Pedigree View.)

2. Change one of the views to another family file by highlighting it and then
choosing Open Family File from the File menu.  (Again, see page 43.)

3.   From either the Family or Pedigree View, drag a name from one view over to
the other and drop it on top of another name, or on the background.  (To start a
drag operation, hold down the left mouse button over the name and move the mouse
slightly until a shadow box appears.  You can then drag the box over to the
other view and drop it by releasing the mouse button.)

4. Legacy now pops up the Copy Between Family Files window.  From here you can
choose the individual, family, or line you want to copy.

5. To copy just the individual you moved over, click the Just the Individual
Above button.  To copy the family of the selected individual, click the Family
button.  To copy the ancestors of the selected person, click the Ancestors
button.  To copy the descendants, click the Descendants button.  To copy the
entire family line of the selected person, click the Entire Family Line button.
  And finally, to copy everyone in the entire file, click the Everyone in File
button.  Some of the buttons (Family, Ancestors, and Descendants) prompt you for
a little more information on who exactly to include.

6. When you have selected all the people you want to copy, click the Start Copy
button.  Legacy then copies all the selected individuals and families to the
other family file.

7. If you dropped the first name on top of another name in the other family
file, you will automatically be taken to the Merge section.  If you dropped the
name on the background, Legacy will ask if you would like to merge records.
(See How To Merge Duplicate Individuals for instructions on how to proceed with
the merge option.)


Pay attention to step 7. You need to drop one name on another. From a hazy
memory, I think there has to some sort of obvious link between the two.

--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg



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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Locations - Townships; census

[Sherry/Support]

That's not only the "general advice from the list" but the specific
advice from Legacy when you import a new file, whether it be a gedcom
or a Legacy file.  That's the reason the first option to create a new
file is selected by default.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 6:53 AM, Paula Ryburn
 wrote:
> Peggy,  Again, I may not have read all your posts, but I think the general
> advice from the list is to never download anything from (say) Ancestry
> directly into your database.  Load it separately, clean it up and then add
> it to your main database.  
> --Paula



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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Locations - Townships; census

[Paula Ryburn]

Peggy,  Again, I may not have read all your posts, but I think the general
advice from the list is to never download anything from (say) Ancestry
directly into your database.  Load it separately, clean it up and then add it to
your main database.  (I know this doesn't help you much NOW, but...)

Further, I think there IS a "find and replace" feature..
 surely someone here will comment on that?!
 --Paula





... Probably because the location list is a mess. Now I've learned I can clean
it up in ancestry.com by entering information from the source that they should
have transferred. But I think I'd rather clean it in Legacy. Then maybe upload
the file to ancestry as a gedcom.




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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Locations - Townships; census

[Paula Ryburn]

Peggy,
Based on what I've read here over the years, whenever one of us who does a lot
of research in the US starts talking about trying to fit US locations into the
"4" mold, and may or may not mention a non-US example, someone from outside the
US will comment in this fashion.  Nothing against them!  But, don't worry about
it.  Based on what I've read of your posts, you are trying to stick with the "4"
plan for US locations, and then you plan to enter into the non-US realm with an
open mind about how those locations may or may not "fit."  I think you will do
fine. ;)

On the other hand, I don't think you will be able to totally avoid any re-work.
 It's the nature of the Legacy program that you are not going to find out
everything it can do for you until you are well into using the program.  The
best advice I've seen (and given, if I may say so!) here is to enter a couple of
items one way and see how it turns out in various outputs; then try it another
way & check output; etc, until you see what you like.  Then forge ahead!

Also, please note that when I began I used the "book" reports almost
exclusively, so only checked how things looked in those.  In the past year or
so, I've tried to get more organized, and now I used the FGR the most.  So, when
you're testing, try even a couple of the "mainline" reports, even if you have
never used them before.
 --Paula



Who is trying to impose it on the rest of the world? Legacy? The Family Search
People? That's why I'm confused. Who are these "powers" who are making the
decisions? And why does it matter? What effect will today's choices of entry, 4
or 9 or whatever, have on us later on?




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RE: [LegacyUG] Merging of individuals from one database to another

[Carl Cox]

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I have used Drag and Drop many times. The method does not merge, it just
puts the individual (or connected group of individuals) in the new
database, then it is up to you to merge them. I would be leery of a
program that would presume to take a new input and merge it with one
already there. Often the new individual has different information than
the one already there, meaning that a marriage or some other valid
information is not in both files.

Carl



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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Locations - Townships; census

[Paula Ryburn]

*Peggy* - please forgive me for not having read to the very end of your posts to
see you prefer "Peggy" !!
 --Paula

 


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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Locations - Townships; census

[Paula Ryburn]

Marg,  I guess I have been able to determine in each instance whether the event
was in the town or the township.  So, I might have two locations in my location
list:  Sault Ste Marie, Chippewa, Michigan and Sault Township, Chippewa,
Michigan and assign the one that applies.  Putting the township in
parens might cause a hiccup in the Geo locator (which I think I read in another
post you have only briefly tried).

Also, as another example, I'm sure the city of Chicago was in a "township" or
across several townships (?), but I never try to indicate township for
Chicago... heck, the city takes up the whole of Cook County now (I'm pretty
sure).  And to carry that example further, to censuses.  The Chicago
census pages usually indicate in which ward of the city the E.D. lies.
 I will include the "_w7_" in the file name on the image, and I typically add
"(Ward 7)" at the beginning of the Notes field for the census Event.  That is, I
do not add the ward to the actual Location field... although, I suppose
you could.  My impression is the ward definitions have changed over time, so
that would just introduce a new level to the issue of a place changing its place
over time...  county boundaries moving, "Massachusetts Colony," etc,
previously discussed here on LUG.  I choose not to add that complexity in the
Location list.
 --Paula


Unless I enter it like this: Sault Ste Marie (Sault Twp), Chippewa, Michigan,
United States, I "lose" the information that SSM is in Soo Twp. I think Barbeau,
Chippewa County, Michigan, USA would be in Bruce Twp. (that's a guess as to the
township). I could put the Township in the note field if it the parenthesis will
cause difficulty down the line when I might want to do more with my data. But as
far as I can see this still keeps the four commas for sorting purposes.


Another problem arises when the town/city is the same name as the township. How
will I know if the person lived in the town or this is referring to the
township? Since I'm leaving off "County"  and just  using "Chippewa, it doesn't
seem consistent to enter "Soo/Sault Township, Chippewa, MI..." But maybe that is
getting too picky. Maybe that is the way it's done. I'm just feeling my way to
an entry system with which I'm reasonably comfortable.



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RE: [LegacyUG] War casualty

[Oregon Rain]

I entered Date of Death: 11 July 1943 (date on his death certificate) and 11 
Jul 1944 (Navy official declared his dead) in a Death event.  'Cause of Death" 
Killed in Action". In the 'Burial Place' I entered  "Buried at Sea off the 
Southern Coast of Italy." I added a Burial Event showing he also has a'' Tablet 
of the Missing at Sicily-Rome American Cemetery, Nettuno, Italy."

Constance


-Original Message-
From: Mike Fry [mailto:mike...@iafrica.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 12:01 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] War casualty

On 2012/04/26 07:55, Tony Rolfe wrote:

> How do you handle someone who was killed in action, has no known grave
> but is remembered officially on a Memorial Wall?
>
> I'm tempted to use the buried field, but there's no date for the burial
> (since it didn't happen) and although the location is a cemetery, he
> isn't buried there.

Presumably, the memorial gives a date, however approximate. So that would allow
you to enter some abbreviated death details. His service record might allow you
"fill in" more details. Also, what about creating an Event Type for "Memorials"
and then adding a "Memorial" event? Lets you have notes and a picture.

--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg



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Re: [LegacyUG] Attach every City Directory scan??

[Paula Ryburn]

Two events each?  Or one called "Residence/Occupation" ?

Which outputs do you use most?  "Book" reports?  Charts?  Web pages?

I've started looking at certification here in the US, and am looking at Legacy
reporting with more scrutiny.  That's why I'm curious.
 --Paula




From:Jenny M Benson 
To:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Thu, April 26, 2012 4:32:46 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Attach every City Directory scan??

On 26/04/2012 00:48, Walt Quering wrote:
>
> My only regret (maybe) thus far is that I have created a residence event
> and (if applicable) an occupation event for each person mentioned in a
> directory.  It may have been easier to just create  a directory event
> and enter the appropriate information there.  However, I am still
> evaluating that decision.

I started of by creating a Directory Event, but after a while I changed
them all to Residence/Occupation Events!

--
Jenny M Benson


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Re: [LegacyUG] Attach every City Directory scan??

[Paula Ryburn]

Marli,  You snipped perfectly! ;)
 --Paula




From:Marli Yoder 
To:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wed, April 25, 2012 10:21:06 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Attach every City Directory scan??


Walt- what a great idea. I'm so glad I get the 90 odd emails a day from the
group! I always find great ideas. (PS did I snip correctly?)
Marli





 From:Walt Quering 
To:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wed, April 25, 2012 6:49:37 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Attach every City Directory scan??


Personally, I attach the image of the cover or front sheet of each directory to
the Master Source entry for that directory and an image of the appropriate page
to the detail for the event. My personal opinion is that hard drive space is
relatively cheap, so, whenever I can, I attach an image of the
document/photo/etc. to the source. I also transcribe the actual entry to the
text/comments section of the source detail.

My only regret (maybe) thus far is that I have created a residence event and (if
applicable) an occupation event for each person mentioned in a directory.  It
may have been easier to just create  a directory event and enter the appropriate
information there.  However, I am still evaluating that decision.


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RE: [LegacyUG] Reuse abandoned RIN's

[Michele Lewis]

My mistake then.  Someone on this list said that was the case and it seemed 
logical to me :)

Michele :)


-Original Message-
From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 7:09 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Reuse abandoned RIN's

Michele,

I very much doubt it. The RIN is not the key field for a record, it is just a 
number which has no use in the DB. Each table in the DB, including the one 
containing the RINs has the first column as the key field, the RINs are in the 
second column, and play no part in the linking of the tables. Reusing a RIN 
does not recreate a key field.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/





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