Re: [LegacyUG] How to record patronymic names.
Here in Holland, where many people were only been known by givenname and fathersname before 1811, there are two ways to handle this. There are users who handle the patronym as a surname, others put the givenname + fathersname in the givennamefield. Both have their positive and negative points. At least the dutch users are asking for many years for a separate field for the patronym. But as you see, we are still waiting for it. Many potential dutch users donot want to change to Legacy just because this issue. Bert Op 19-1-2013 1:39, Brian Lehman schreef: Hello, I would appreciate suggestions on how to enter a patronymic name. My ancestors, being Jewish, didn't have last names in Europe until abt 1800. Before then, people went by their name and their fathers. Such as Moses Seligmann, born 1757, Germany, Seligmann being Moses father. Moses Seligmann signed documents as such, and in 1809, he and his family Adopted the surname Turkheimer, after that, documents were signed Moses Turkheimer. How should this name be entered in Legacy? On the individual information screen, If I enter Moses Seligmann (his birth name), it looks like every other middle name. I enter relevant info in notes and events. How do I properly enter Moses Seligmann, with no last name, and not looking like a middle name. Appreciate any and all suggestions. Take care, Brian Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] How to record patronymic names.
On 19/01/2013 00:39, Brian Lehman wrote: I would appreciate suggestions on how to enter a patronymic name. My ancestors, being Jewish, didn't have last names in Europe until abt 1800. Before then, people went by their name and their fathers. Such as Moses Seligmann, born 1757, Germany, Seligmann being Moses father. Moses Seligmann signed documents as such, and in 1809, he and his family Adopted the surname Turkheimer, after that, documents were signed Moses Turkheimer. How should this name be entered in Legacy? On the individual information screen, If I enter Moses Seligmann (his birth name), it looks like every other middle name. I enter relevant info in notes and events. How do I properly enter Moses Seligmann, with no last name, and not looking like a middle name. Appreciate any and all suggestions. How much of a problem is it to enter the patronymic as if it was a surname? Although Legacy assumes that children will have the same surname as their father it has no objection to you changing that and entering whatever surname you want. You can create an Event for the adoption of the surname Turkheimer and enter that as an AKA for Moses and other members of his family who adopted it and then enter it as the surname for Moses' children. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] jpeg and pdf pictures
Do I need a special program to put the pictures into TIFF? My scanner shows only JPEG and PDF. I have a copier/scanner/fax. I appreciate all of you who have taken the time to write me. I have Jeff's book (didn't see the workshop on line), but I haven't been able to decifer TIFF. I know that seems to be the best place to save family photos that there appears to be only one of a kind and then make copies in JPEG to share. A hearty thank you to each of you who responded. As you can see I'm still learning. Barb - Original Message - From: JLB j...@jgen.ws To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 4:56 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] jpeg and pdf pictures If you have something like Adobe Photoshop Elements you can open your PDF's there and it will extract the photos for you. Do it one PDF at a time. The other way (depending on the size of your photos) is to open the PDF as usual. Depending on your PDF reader there may be a camera icon in the menu that allows you to take a screenshot of the photo. You'd want to be able to do that at full size, of course. It depends what software is available to you but,no, you can't edit a photo inside a PDF. Not in the way you mean, anyway. And no, you shouldn't be editing JPG's. It's a compressed format and every time you edit and re-save you'll lose picture quality. Your photos should be in TIFF to begin with but that's not always possible. JL Beeken JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://jlog.jgen.ws/ On 1/18/2013 1:35 PM, Barbara wrote: Hopefully you don't think this is off topic. Two questions about pdf saved photos: 1. Is there a way to edit pdf saved pictures? 2. If not is there a way to change pdf saved pictures into jpeg so they can be edited? I'm learning, and have saved several phots in pdf and have not been able to work with them. Maybe I've learned a lesson and should save all of them in jpeg. Awaiting your thoughts and expertise. Barb Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] jpeg and pdf pictures
Personally, the way I change a.pdf to a .jpg is to take a screenshot of the .pdf and save it as a .jpg. I use Picasa which is *so* easy to edit in and is free. Other than the usual .jpg loss problems -- which is ordinarily not a problem in Legacy -- I don't know of any disadvantages. Pat On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 6:29 AM, Barbara bschwart...@twcny.rr.com wrote: Do I need a special program to put the pictures into TIFF? My scanner shows only JPEG and PDF. I have a copier/scanner/fax. I appreciate all of you who have taken the time to write me. I have Jeff's book (didn't see the workshop on line), but I haven't been able to decifer TIFF. I know that seems to be the best place to save family photos that there appears to be only one of a kind and then make copies in JPEG to share. A hearty thank you to each of you who responded. As you can see I'm still learning. Barb - Original Message - From: JLB j...@jgen.ws To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 4:56 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] jpeg and pdf pictures If you have something like Adobe Photoshop Elements you can open your PDF's there and it will extract the photos for you. Do it one PDF at a time. The other way (depending on the size of your photos) is to open the PDF as usual. Depending on your PDF reader there may be a camera icon in the menu that allows you to take a screenshot of the photo. You'd want to be able to do that at full size, of course. It depends what software is available to you but,no, you can't edit a photo inside a PDF. Not in the way you mean, anyway. And no, you shouldn't be editing JPG's. It's a compressed format and every time you edit and re-save you'll lose picture quality. Your photos should be in TIFF to begin with but that's not always possible. JL Beeken JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://jlog.jgen.ws/ On 1/18/2013 1:35 PM, Barbara wrote: Hopefully you don't think this is off topic. Two questions about pdf saved photos: 1. Is there a way to edit pdf saved pictures? 2. If not is there a way to change pdf saved pictures into jpeg so they can be edited? I'm learning, and have saved several phots in pdf and have not been able to work with them. Maybe I've learned a lesson and should save all of them in jpeg. Awaiting your thoughts and expertise. Barb Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] jpeg and pdf pictures
On 1/19/2013 6:29 AM, Barbara wrote: Do I need a special program to put the pictures into TIFF? My scanner shows only JPEG and PDF. I have a copier/scanner/fax. I appreciate all of you who have taken the time to write me. I have Jeff's book (didn't see the workshop on line), but I haven't been able to decifer TIFF. I know that seems to be the best place to save family photos that there appears to be only one of a kind and then make copies in JPEG to share. A hearty thank you to each of you who responded. As you can see I'm still learning. Barb As I wrote earlier, Use the free Nitro PDF reader to extract images from PDF files. To create a JPG from a TIFF, use the free program IrfanView. Just open the TIFF and select Save As and choose JPG. There is online help for both of these fine programs. -- Gene Young Researching Young, Harer, Cox Sallada With Legacy Family Tree http://myyoungs.atspace.com/index.htm Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] How to record patronymic names.
When I am working on my Scandinavian lines, I go to customizing and turn off the add father's surname button so I don't have to remove it while adding information. I also use the other surnames (often if they left Sweden or Norway they changed their surnames) in the aka section . Also I add farmnames for my Norwegian people into the suffix (this way I have their names with their farmnames together. Play around with Legacy and customize - easy to do and it will save you time in the long run. We have discussed this and have a few hangout recordings on customizing and data entry at the Legacy Virtual Users' Group page. We also meet online once a month. Tessa Keough Guild of One-Name Studies, No. 5089 Legacy Virtual Users' Group One Place Studies - Plate Cove, Newfoundland On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 2:22 AM, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote: On 19/01/2013 00:39, Brian Lehman wrote: I would appreciate suggestions on how to enter a patronymic name. My ancestors, being Jewish, didn't have last names in Europe until abt 1800. Before then, people went by their name and their fathers. Such as Moses Seligmann, born 1757, Germany, Seligmann being Moses father. Moses Seligmann signed documents as such, and in 1809, he and his family Adopted the surname Turkheimer, after that, documents were signed Moses Turkheimer. How should this name be entered in Legacy? On the individual information screen, If I enter Moses Seligmann (his birth name), it looks like every other middle name. I enter relevant info in notes and events. How do I properly enter Moses Seligmann, with no last name, and not looking like a middle name. Appreciate any and all suggestions. How much of a problem is it to enter the patronymic as if it was a surname? Although Legacy assumes that children will have the same surname as their father it has no objection to you changing that and entering whatever surname you want. You can create an Event for the adoption of the surname Turkheimer and enter that as an AKA for Moses and other members of his family who adopted it and then enter it as the surname for Moses' children. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] jpeg and pdf pictures
I've heard this same thing about scanners from my cousin, Sam, who insists her scanner can only scan pictures as JPG's. I doubt it but I haven't seen her scanner. When you scan pictures you're just scanning them. It doesn't have anything to do with file format. It's when you save them that you choose a format. Use the drop down arrow next to Save to choose TIFF. When you want to convert a TIFF to a JPG, simply open the TIFF in any photo software (XnView and Paint.NET are both free) and re-save it as a JPG. This can also be done in batch-mode in some software. - JL Beeken JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://jlog.jgen.ws/ On 1/19/2013 3:29 AM, Barbara wrote: Do I need a special program to put the pictures into TIFF? My scanner shows only JPEG and PDF. I have a copier/scanner/fax. I appreciate all of you who have taken the time to write me. I have Jeff's book (didn't see the workshop on line), but I haven't been able to decifer TIFF. I know that seems to be the best place to save family photos that there appears to be only one of a kind and then make copies in JPEG to share. A hearty thank you to each of you who responded. As you can see I'm still learning. Barb - Original Message - From: JLB j...@jgen.ws To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 4:56 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] jpeg and pdf pictures If you have something like Adobe Photoshop Elements you can open your PDF's there and it will extract the photos for you. Do it one PDF at a time. The other way (depending on the size of your photos) is to open the PDF as usual. Depending on your PDF reader there may be a camera icon in the menu that allows you to take a screenshot of the photo. You'd want to be able to do that at full size, of course. It depends what software is available to you but,no, you can't edit a photo inside a PDF. Not in the way you mean, anyway. And no, you shouldn't be editing JPG's. It's a compressed format and every time you edit and re-save you'll lose picture quality. Your photos should be in TIFF to begin with but that's not always possible. JL Beeken JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://jlog.jgen.ws/ On 1/18/2013 1:35 PM, Barbara wrote: Hopefully you don't think this is off topic. Two questions about pdf saved photos: 1. Is there a way to edit pdf saved pictures? 2. If not is there a way to change pdf saved pictures into jpeg so they can be edited? I'm learning, and have saved several phots in pdf and have not been able to work with them. Maybe I've learned a lesson and should save all of them in jpeg. Awaiting your thoughts and expertise. Barb Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] jpeg and pdf pictures
A scanner may give you the option to save a file as a TIFF, but a lot of websites don't. I checked a few of my favorites. Ancestry's only option is .jpg. American Ancestors and Family Search save as .jpg. They don't give you an option but they do allow you to open it in a photo editor instead. I have a lot of older images of books that are .gif. I'm not sure that any websites are using that any more. ~~ Shirley York Anderson yor...@prodigy.net ~~ My web site: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~syafam/ http://myfamilybrickwalls.blogspot.com/ - Original Message From: JLB j...@jgen.ws To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Sat, January 19, 2013 12:48:11 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] jpeg and pdf pictures I've heard this same thing about scanners from my cousin, Sam, who insists her scanner can only scan pictures as JPG's. I doubt it but I haven't seen her scanner. When you scan pictures you're just scanning them. It doesn't have anything to do with file format. It's when you save them that you choose a format. Use the drop down arrow next to Save to choose TIFF. When you want to convert a TIFF to a JPG, simply open the TIFF in any photo software (XnView and Paint.NET are both free) and re-save it as a JPG. This can also be done in batch-mode in some software. - JL Beeken JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://jlog.jgen.ws/ On 1/19/2013 3:29 AM, Barbara wrote: Do I need a special program to put the pictures into TIFF? My scanner shows only JPEG and PDF. I have a copier/scanner/fax. I appreciate all of you who have taken the time to write me. I have Jeff's book (didn't see the workshop on line), but I haven't been able to decifer TIFF. I know that seems to be the best place to save family photos that there appears to be only one of a kind and then make copies in JPEG to share. A hearty thank you to each of you who responded. As you can see I'm still learning. Barb - Original Message - From: JLB j...@jgen.ws To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 4:56 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] jpeg and pdf pictures If you have something like Adobe Photoshop Elements you can open your PDF's there and it will extract the photos for you. Do it one PDF at a time. The other way (depending on the size of your photos) is to open the PDF as usual. Depending on your PDF reader there may be a camera icon in the menu that allows you to take a screenshot of the photo. You'd want to be able to do that at full size, of course. It depends what software is available to you but,no, you can't edit a photo inside a PDF. Not in the way you mean, anyway. And no, you shouldn't be editing JPG's. It's a compressed format and every time you edit and re-save you'll lose picture quality. Your photos should be in TIFF to begin with but that's not always possible. JL Beeken JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://jlog.jgen.ws/ On 1/18/2013 1:35 PM, Barbara wrote: Hopefully you don't think this is off topic. Two questions about pdf saved photos: 1. Is there a way to edit pdf saved pictures? 2. If not is there a way to change pdf saved pictures into jpeg so they can be edited? I'm learning, and have saved several phots in pdf and have not been able to work with them. Maybe I've learned a lesson and should save all of them in jpeg. Awaiting your thoughts and expertise. Barb Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support:
RE: [LegacyUG] jpeg and pdf pictures
The reason that some people claim they can only scan an image as one particular file format is that they are most likely using the proprietary software that came with the scanner. In such cases, the software is so simplistic and lacking in options, the image is imported into Windows as a JPG only, or perhaps only as a BMP. They don't realize that they can use a number of free imaging programs such as Irfanview and a multitude of others that will allow them to use the scanner (just Google free image scanning programs) as long as the driver supplied by the scanner is Twain compliant (almost all are). Such programs are full of features that offer the capability to save a scanned image in a number of different file formats. Methinks that the argument about lossy compression of JPEGS is overblown when considering that with most programs the user has the option to choose the amount of compression to be used by the algorithms in saving the JPEG. Just try staying away from the defaults. Using Photoshop, I always choose 12 which results in next to no compression. Studies have shown that multiple saves of a JPEG using this compression setting results in an image that is practically indiscernible from the original. I just don't like the idea of having a Master TIFF image and then another identical image in JPG format. Seems counter-intuitive when hard drive space is cheap so I have no problem with 5 or 6 meg pictures. Besides, I usually edit my scanned images only once or twice and never touch them after that. But to each his own. And after all is said and done, I just can't argue against the basic concept that a TIFF format will keep your image in its original pristine condition and a JPEG will technically change every time one re-saves it. Just make sure you are using an un-compressed TIFF format. There are several options for a compressed TIFF and some of those options are a lossy compression technique which puts you right back into the realm of a JPEG image. I don't think Geoff Rasmussen and others have made this point strong enough and so I suspect that there are many Legacy users unknowingly saving their images in a lossy compressed TIFF format. Brian in CA Go '49ers -Original Message- From: JLB [mailto:j...@jgen.ws] Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 10:47 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] jpeg and pdf pictures I've heard this same thing about scanners from my cousin, Sam, who insists her scanner can only scan pictures as JPG's. I doubt it but I haven't seen her scanner. When you scan pictures you're just scanning them. It doesn't have anything to do with file format. It's when you save them that you choose a format. Use the drop down arrow next to Save to choose TIFF. When you want to convert a TIFF to a JPG, simply open the TIFF in any photo software (XnView and Paint.NET are both free) and re-save it as a JPG. This can also be done in batch-mode in some software. - JL Beeken JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://jlog.jgen.ws/ On 1/19/2013 3:29 AM, Barbara wrote: Do I need a special program to put the pictures into TIFF? My scanner shows only JPEG and PDF. I have a copier/scanner/fax. I appreciate all of you who have taken the time to write me. I have Jeff's book (didn't see the workshop on line), but I haven't been able to decifer TIFF. I know that seems to be the best place to save family photos that there appears to be only one of a kind and then make copies in JPEG to share. A hearty thank you to each of you who responded. As you can see I'm still learning. Barb - Original Message - From: JLB j...@jgen.ws To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 4:56 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] jpeg and pdf pictures If you have something like Adobe Photoshop Elements you can open your PDF's there and it will extract the photos for you. Do it one PDF at a time. The other way (depending on the size of your photos) is to open the PDF as usual. Depending on your PDF reader there may be a camera icon in the menu that allows you to take a screenshot of the photo. You'd want to be able to do that at full size, of course. It depends what software is available to you but,no, you can't edit a photo inside a PDF. Not in the way you mean, anyway. And no, you shouldn't be editing JPG's. It's a compressed format and every time you edit and re-save you'll lose picture quality. Your photos should be in TIFF to begin with but that's not always possible. JL Beeken JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://jlog.jgen.ws/ On 1/18/2013 1:35 PM, Barbara wrote: Hopefully you don't think this is off topic. Two questions about pdf saved photos: 1. Is there a way to edit pdf saved pictures? 2. If not is there a way to change pdf saved pictures into jpeg so they can be edited? I'm learning, and have saved several phots in pdf and have not
[LegacyUG] converting and/or printing from RTF format
Hello everyone, I created a Descendants Book report (which is actually a chapter for a collateral line), then I downloaded it from Legacy as an RTF file so it could be edited. I've completed the editing process and know that I have the option of either printing the file or just saving it as a Word document or as a PDF file. That said, what I'd like to do is take the edited file and save it in Legacy so that I can later use it (as a chapter in sequence) for a Book created in the Publishing Center. (I hope I am wording this question correctly.) Can the rtf edited file be put back into Legacy and how would I accomplish this? Any input would be appreciated. Lavern Hall Aurora, Ohio, USA Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] US Army discharge not available in SourceWriter
I may have missed the place to choose discharge records but I don't think so. SourceWriter does not have a choice in Military records for this source to be added. I have an original WW II document of discharge (not DD 214) and would like to have a specific source to list this document. I can only find registers and and other reference to sources other than original discharge documents. Mills does not address this record type in her book either. I have this document described in notes for facts/events but again would like to have a proper way to use SourceWriter for this document. How should I proceed. Stuart Lease Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] jpeg and pdf pictures
I believe the original question was about scanning images. Why are you mixing this up with talk about downloading images? - JL Beeken JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://jlog.jgen.ws/ On 1/19/2013 1:01 PM, SHIRLEY ANDERSON wrote: A scanner may give you the option to save a file as a TIFF, but a lot of websites don't. I checked a few of my favorites. Ancestry's only option is .jpg. American Ancestors and Family Search save as .jpg. They don't give you an option but they do allow you to open it in a photo editor instead. I have a lot of older images of books that are .gif. I'm not sure that any websites are using that any more. ~~ Shirley York Anderson yor...@prodigy.net ~~ My web site: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~syafam/ http://myfamilybrickwalls.blogspot.com/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] converting and/or printing from RTF format
You cannot include a document file, like your edited rtf file, in any Legacy reports directly. Using the Pub centre you can reserve space in the Legacy report for the rtf document using the place holder but you will have to manually print the rtf file outside of Legacy. The other alternative is to use the special text entry chapter but I cannot guarantee that the document format which you spent all that time creating would be preserved. The special text entry is just that (text with the very limited options Legacy supports for text such as bold, underline, italic etc.). Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com -- On 19-Jan-13 17:25, Lavern Hall wrote: Hello everyone, I created a Descendants Book report (which is actually a chapter for a collateral line), then I downloaded it from Legacy as an RTF file so it could be edited. I've completed the editing process and know that I have the option of either printing the file or just saving it as a Word document or as a PDF file. That said, what I'd like to do is take the edited file and save it in Legacy so that I can later use it (as a chapter in sequence) for a Book created in the Publishing Center. (I hope I am wording this question correctly.) Can the rtf edited file be put back into Legacy and how would I accomplish this? Any input would be appreciated. Lavern Hall Aurora, Ohio, USA Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] jpeg and pdf pictures
XnView can also be used to 'Select TWAIN Source' and it's free. After clicking the Scan button in XnView, my Epson scanner windows open as usual for a choice of other options. The scanned photo then shows up in XnView and can be saved from there in whatever format I choose through the 'Save file as' option in Windows. It's quite do-able if your scanner won't do a TIFF by itself. I generally use Epson directly after setting the Save option for TIFF and the Save location. What I've seen about saving TIFF's is that None is the default compression option but it's worth checking to make sure. LZW, which is lossless, can be used to save space. To reconstitute to the original size, just re-save with the None compression option. The word on the street about re-saving JPG's is to not change the level of compression. If you stick with the original the damage is less. I don't bother making JPG copies of my edited TIFF's unless I have a reason for it; emailing, web use, wikis, etc. I have almost nothing linked to Legacy. - JL Beeken JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://jlog.jgen.ws/ On 1/19/2013 1:03 PM, Brian L. Lightfoot wrote: The reason that some people claim they can only scan an image as one particular file format is that they are most likely using the proprietary software that came with the scanner. In such cases, the software is so simplistic and lacking in options, the image is imported into Windows as a JPG only, or perhaps only as a BMP. They don't realize that they can use a number of free imaging programs such as Irfanview and a multitude of others that will allow them to use the scanner (just Google free image scanning programs) as long as the driver supplied by the scanner is Twain compliant (almost all are). Such programs are full of features that offer the capability to save a scanned image in a number of different file formats. Methinks that the argument about lossy compression of JPEGS is overblown when considering that with most programs the user has the option to choose the amount of compression to be used by the algorithms in saving the JPEG. Just try staying away from the defaults. Using Photoshop, I always choose 12 which results in next to no compression. Studies have shown that multiple saves of a JPEG using this compression setting results in an image that is practically indiscernible from the original. I just don't like the idea of having a Master TIFF image and then another identical image in JPG format. Seems counter-intuitive when hard drive space is cheap so I have no problem with 5 or 6 meg pictures. Besides, I usually edit my scanned images only once or twice and never touch them after that. But to each his own. And after all is said and done, I just can't argue against the basic concept that a TIFF format will keep your image in its original pristine condition and a JPEG will technically change every time one re-saves it. Just make sure you are using an un-compressed TIFF format. There are several options for a compressed TIFF and some of those options are a lossy compression technique which puts you right back into the realm of a JPEG image. I don't think Geoff Rasmussen and others have made this point strong enough and so I suspect that there are many Legacy users unknowingly saving their images in a lossy compressed TIFF format. Brian in CA Go '49ers Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] converting and/or printing from RTF format
Hi Brian, Legacy does a great job of nesting the TOC and Index when downloading to the RTF format. Would a better option instead of my downloading chapters be for me to create the entire Descandants Book report, download it in the RTF format for editing, then print. This way the TOC, sequence of footnotes and the Index would remain in tact? Lavern Hall On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 6:09 PM, Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.comwrote: You cannot include a document file, like your edited rtf file, in any Legacy reports directly. Using the Pub centre you can reserve space in the Legacy report for the rtf document using the place holder but you will have to manually print the rtf file outside of Legacy. The other alternative is to use the special text entry chapter but I cannot guarantee that the document format which you spent all that time creating would be preserved. The special text entry is just that (text with the very limited options Legacy supports for text such as bold, underline, italic etc.). Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/ -- On 19-Jan-13 17:25, Lavern Hall wrote: Hello everyone, I created a Descendants Book report (which is actually a chapter for a collateral line), then I downloaded it from Legacy as an RTF file so it could be edited. I've completed the editing process and know that I have the option of either printing the file or just saving it as a Word document or as a PDF file. That said, what I'd like to do is take the edited file and save it in Legacy so that I can later use it (as a chapter in sequence) for a Book created in the Publishing Center. (I hope I am wording this question correctly.) Can the rtf edited file be put back into Legacy and how would I accomplish this? Any input would be appreciated. Lavern Hall Aurora, Ohio, USA Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.comhttp://news.legacyfamilytree.com/ ). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.comhttp://news.legacyfamilytree.com/ ). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] A bit off-topic - GRO indices
Sorry, Sherry. I'll stay on topic for future threads. However, I did search for GRO specific lists and couldn't find any. Could you advise, please - off list. Thanks Tony Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] US Army discharge not available in SourceWriter
Stuart, Elizabeth covers documents and manuscripts. According to you your WWII discharge is an original document. Check page 868 [EE] in the index for original records. Marie Marie Varrelman Melchiori, CG, CGL Melchiori Research Services, L.L.C. --- CG, Certified Genealogist and CGL, Certified Genealogical Lecturer are service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists ® , used under license by Board-certified associates after periodic competency evaluations. In a message dated 1/19/2013 5:52:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, slease...@aol.com writes: I may have missed the place to choose discharge records but I don't think so. SourceWriter does not have a choice in Military records for this source to be added. I have an original WW II document of discharge (not DD 214) and would like to have a specific source to list this document. I can only find registers and and other reference to sources other than original discharge documents. Mills does not address this record type in her book either. I have this document described in notes for facts/events but again would like to have a proper way to use SourceWriter for this document. How should I proceed. Stuart Lease Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Where are my messages?
I also saw them but had no new valuable information (not) already stated on the post. Too many negatives? --- On Fri, 1/18/13, flore...@aussiebb.com.au flore...@aussiebb.com.au wrote: From: flore...@aussiebb.com.au flore...@aussiebb.com.au Subject: [LegacyUG] Where are my messages? To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Date: Friday, January 18, 2013, 6:28 PM I have previously posted 2 messages in the last week or so but I can't see my posts. What have I done wrong? This post will probably not show as well. I have had replies to my post so someone is seeing them somewhere. My first post was Semi-colon in Reports and the second post I replied to my own post saying that I had soved my own problem. Where are they? Florence Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] A bit off-topic - GRO indices
Yes. There may be many reasons for errors of inclusion and also exclusion. I have not noticed 'time to post detail' accurate/guessable. Sorry! --- On Fri, 1/18/13, Tony Rolfe geneal...@gillandtony.com wrote: From: Tony Rolfe geneal...@gillandtony.com Subject: [LegacyUG] A bit off-topic - GRO indices To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Date: Friday, January 18, 2013, 6:29 PM Sorry that this is a bit off-topic, please reply directly if you can. How long after the BMD event is it possible for the registration to happen? I have a couple on the 1881 census, married with two children. I know it is the right woman as her sister is also in the household under her maiden name. So, it isn't a previous wife with the same first name. Their marriage on FreeBMD doesn't happen until 1883. I know it is possible that they didn't actually get married until 1883 and that they were pretending on the census. However, is it possible for a marriage to happen in 1876 (a year before the age of the elder child) and not be in the indices for 7 years? Thanks Tony Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] How to record patronymic names.
In each of the 5 Scandinavian languages some people carried patronymics and/or farm names using local name rules? Each area/country used both on occasion. --- On Sat, 1/19/13, Tessa Keough murke...@gmail.com wrote: From: Tessa Keough murke...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to record patronymic names. To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Date: Saturday, January 19, 2013, 8:24 AM When I am working on my Scandinavian lines, I go to customizing and turn off the add father's surname button so I don't have to remove it while adding information. I also use the other surnames (often if they left Sweden or Norway they changed their surnames) in the aka section . Also I add farmnames for my Norwegian people into the suffix (this way I have their names with their farmnames together. Play around with Legacy and customize - easy to do and it will save you time in the long run. We have discussed this and have a few hangout recordings on customizing and data entry at the Legacy Virtual Users' Group page. We also meet online once a month. Tessa Keough Guild of One-Name Studies, No. 5089 Legacy Virtual Users' Group One Place Studies - Plate Cove, Newfoundland On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 2:22 AM, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote: On 19/01/2013 00:39, Brian Lehman wrote: I would appreciate suggestions on how to enter a patronymic name. My ancestors, being Jewish, didn't have last names in Europe until abt 1800. Before then, people went by their name and their fathers. Such as Moses Seligmann, born 1757, Germany, Seligmann being Moses father. Moses Seligmann signed documents as such, and in 1809, he and his family Adopted the surname Turkheimer, after that, documents were signed Moses Turkheimer. How should this name be entered in Legacy? On the individual information screen, If I enter Moses Seligmann (his birth name), it looks like every other middle name. I enter relevant info in notes and events. How do I properly enter Moses Seligmann, with no last name, and not looking like a middle name. Appreciate any and all suggestions. How much of a problem is it to enter the patronymic as if it was a surname? Although Legacy assumes that children will have the same surname as their father it has no objection to you changing that and entering whatever surname you want. You can create an Event for the adoption of the surname Turkheimer and enter that as an AKA for Moses and other members of his family who adopted it and then enter it as the surname for Moses' children. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
