Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy starts up without being invoked
I found these web sites that might help. I have NOT used any of these methods, so I can NOT vouch for them. I found the "unassoc.zip" file mentioned on a lot of sites, so hopefully it is good. But to be safe, I'd suggest you make a good backup of the hard drive before you install the program they mention. http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/91920-unassociate-file-extention-type.html http://helpdeskgeek.com/windows-7/remove-file-type-associations-in-windows-7/ http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-windows_programs/how-to-manage-file-types-in-windows-7/92dffd14-a131-41a7-94d7-9a298390dd7e (On this last link, look at the 3rd(?) link in the ANSWER area. Or, here is a more manual method: http://www.mydigitallife.info/how-to-unassociate-file-types-and-remove-file-extension-associations-in-windows-vista/ Again - I'd look in Dropbox for some setting to change first . . . Good luck. Bob On 03/18/2013 23:15, Robert57P_gmail wrote: > This is just a stab in the dark . . . > Maybe her Dropbox is not configured quite right? When you update a > Legacy file on your computer, it goes to dropbox and then down to her > computer. Her computer has that file extension associated with > Legacy and, for some reason, her computer thinks she wants to open > that newly received file as soon as it comes in (just like if she > double clicked on the DATA file - the *.fdb file). If you can't find > some setting in dropbox, then, if nothing else, you might want to try > UNassociating *fdb files with Legacy. That way when a newly updated > data file shows up it won't trigger the program. This should not > impact the running of Legacy at all - it just means you have to use > the icon/shortcut to start Legacy instead of using a data file - and > that's how most folks do it anyway. > > Unfortunately I can't figure out how to do this in Windows 7. Used to > be you could UNassociate an extension via file manager (Windows > Explorer) in older Windows versions, but I can only figure out how to > CHANGE an association in Win 7! This won't help much, but maybe it > will trigger someone else's memory: > Option 1 > * Open Windows Explorer > * Browse to a folder with an *.fdb file in it > * right click on that file (you may need to SHIFT-RightClick?), then > select OPEN WITH . . . > But that only allows you to change it. > > Option 2 > * Control Panel > * double click on: Default Programs > * Select "Associate a file type or protocol with a program" > * wait for it to refresh > * scroll down until you find .fdb, highlight it > * Once highlighted, click "Change Program" (top right corner) > But, again, that only allows you to CHANGE the program. It does not > allow REMOVAL of .fdb from the list. > > I'm sure there's a way to do it via RegEdit. But if you are not > familiar with that, then you really should not poke around in there - > you can do a LOT of "damage" real fast using that tool. > > Hopefully you can find something in a drop-box setting to change so > you won't have to figure out how to unassociate the extension!?!?!? > > Bob > > > On 03/18/2013 21:14, Fred Lindsay wrote: >>   My wife and I each have a laptop with Win 7 and Legacy Version >> 7.5.0.219.  When I am on the internet working with Legacy and my >> wife is 'surfing the net', Legacy frequently starts up on her >> computer without being invoked. We are both connected wirelessly to >> a router and both of us have Dropbox installed. She is usually >> not using the keyboard at the time, just reading what is on her >> monitor.  >>  This is by no means a major problem because she just closes out >> Legacy and carries on. It is, however, a major curiosity for me. >>   Has anyone experienced this or have a comment about it? >>  >> Thanks and regards to all, >> Fred Lindsay in snowy Ancaster Ontario. >> >> >> Legacy User Group guidelines: >> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >> Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ >> Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ >> Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >> Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) >> and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). >> To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) > and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). > T
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy starts up without being invoked
This is just a stab in the dark . . . Maybe her Dropbox is not configured quite right? When you update a Legacy file on your computer, it goes to dropbox and then down to her computer. Her computer has that file extension associated with Legacy and, for some reason, her computer thinks she wants to open that newly received file as soon as it comes in (just like if she double clicked on the DATA file - the *.fdb file). If you can't find some setting in dropbox, then, if nothing else, you might want to try UNassociating *fdb files with Legacy. That way when a newly updated data file shows up it won't trigger the program. This should not impact the running of Legacy at all - it just means you have to use the icon/shortcut to start Legacy instead of using a data file - and that's how most folks do it anyway. Unfortunately I can't figure out how to do this in Windows 7. Used to be you could UNassociate an extension via file manager (Windows Explorer) in older Windows versions, but I can only figure out how to CHANGE an association in Win 7! This won't help much, but maybe it will trigger someone else's memory: Option 1 * Open Windows Explorer * Browse to a folder with an *.fdb file in it * right click on that file (you may need to SHIFT-RightClick?), then select OPEN WITH . . . But that only allows you to change it. Option 2 * Control Panel * double click on: Default Programs * Select "Associate a file type or protocol with a program" * wait for it to refresh * scroll down until you find .fdb, highlight it * Once highlighted, click "Change Program" (top right corner) But, again, that only allows you to CHANGE the program. It does not allow REMOVAL of .fdb from the list. I'm sure there's a way to do it via RegEdit. But if you are not familiar with that, then you really should not poke around in there - you can do a LOT of "damage" real fast using that tool. Hopefully you can find something in a drop-box setting to change so you won't have to figure out how to unassociate the extension!?!?!? Bob On 03/18/2013 21:14, Fred Lindsay wrote: >My wife and I each have a laptop with Win 7 and Legacy Version > 7.5.0.219. When I am on the internet working with Legacy and my wife > is 'surfing the net', Legacy frequently starts up on her computer > without being invoked. We are both connected wirelessly to a router > and both of us have Dropbox installed. She is usually not using the > keyboard at the time, just reading what is on her monitor. > This is by no means a major problem because she just closes out > Legacy and carries on. It is, however, a major curiosity for me. >Has anyone experienced this or have a comment about it? > > Thanks and regards to all, > Fred Lindsay in snowy Ancaster Ontario. > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) > and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Legacy starts up without being invoked
My wife and I each have a laptop with Win 7 and Legacy Version 7.5.0.219. When I am on the internet working with Legacy and my wife is 'surfing the net', Legacy frequently starts up on her computer without being invoked. We are both connected wirelessly to a router and both of us have Dropbox installed. She is usually not using the keyboard at the time, just reading what is on her monitor. This is by no means a major problem because she just closes out Legacy and carries on. It is, however, a major curiosity for me. Has anyone experienced this or have a comment about it? Thanks and regards to all, Fred Lindsay in snowy Ancaster Ontario. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Hot News
This looks like SPAM... bill hinkle In a message dated 3/18/2013 5:32:12 P.M. Central Daylight Time, lgris...@yahoo.com writes: _http://www.noscasamos2010.com/shfpqbnw/vqaipls/csbjhgkj_ (http://www.noscasamos2010.com/shfpqbnw/vqaipls/csbjhgkj) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Hot News
http://www.noscasamos2010.com/shfpqbnw/vqaipls/csbjhgkj Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Family Group Record print out anomaly
That works for the Family Group Sheet. To turn it off for all reports & displays, go to "Options". On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Ch wrote: > From the Family Group report under "Report Options", turn off "LDS > ordinance info." > Ch > On 3/18/2013 4:24 PM, John Gregson wrote: > > I've just started using Legacy Deluxe, ver 7.5.0.219 > > I'm using Win 7-32 > > > > I've printed out my first Family Group Record; for my > > parents, myself & sister. > > > > The print-out; after event label, Date, and Location (3 columns) ; has > > two additional columns > > on the right, but these extra columns are not labeled. > > In many occasions the fourth column contains: > > *B E SP SSin bold > > > > I have no idea what the above refers to, I cannot find any information > > in the HELP. > > > > There is also a fifth column; this column has no data. > > > > John > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and > on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Family Group Record print out anomaly
From the Family Group report under "Report Options", turn off "LDS ordinance info." Ch On 3/18/2013 4:24 PM, John Gregson wrote: > I've just started using Legacy Deluxe, ver 7.5.0.219 > I'm using Win 7-32 > > I've printed out my first Family Group Record; for my > parents, myself & sister. > > The print-out; after event label, Date, and Location (3 columns) ; has > two additional columns > on the right, but these extra columns are not labeled. > In many occasions the fourth column contains: > *B E SP SSin bold > > I have no idea what the above refers to, I cannot find any information > in the HELP. > > There is also a fifth column; this column has no data. > > John Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Family Group Record print out anomaly
Those are only of interest to members of the LDS church You can remove them as follows: Click on "Options", "Customize", "General Tab" On the right side, unclick "Display LDS Information" On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 2:24 PM, John Gregson wrote: > I've just started using Legacy Deluxe, ver 7.5.0.219 > I'm using Win 7-32 > > I've printed out my first Family Group Record; for my > parents, myself & sister. > > The print-out; after event label, Date, and Location (3 columns) ; has > two additional columns > on the right, but these extra columns are not labeled. > In many occasions the fourth column contains: > *B E SP SSin bold > > I have no idea what the above refers to, I cannot find any information > in the HELP. > > There is also a fifth column; this column has no data. > > John > -- > John. jfgreg...@shaw.ca > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and > on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Family Group Record print out anomaly
I've just started using Legacy Deluxe, ver 7.5.0.219 I'm using Win 7-32 I've printed out my first Family Group Record; for my parents, myself & sister. The print-out; after event label, Date, and Location (3 columns) ; has two additional columns on the right, but these extra columns are not labeled. In many occasions the fourth column contains: *B E SP SSin bold I have no idea what the above refers to, I cannot find any information in the HELP. There is also a fifth column; this column has no data. John -- John. jfgreg...@shaw.ca Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re[2]: [LegacyUG] Organization of Photos, Scanned Documents and etc.
Kim Thanks for the DigiKam photo organizer/editor suggestion. I have both Swedish and Norwegian ancestors to organize as well. Keeping patronymic naming straight can be mind boggling and a challenge to track at times. Checked out LTools and was surprised to see so many additional features to enhance Legacy, which is very powerful in itself. Thanks again everyone for all your feedback! Cathy -- Original Message -- From: "Kim" To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Sent: 3/18/2013 12:04:10 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Organization of Photos, Scanned Documents and etc. >DigiKam is another great free open source photo organizer/editor. There >are versions for Linux and Windows, I'm a Linux user. >http://www.digikam.org >It has the option to set it so the tags and description are written to >the meta data and so are transfered with the image. It handles all >image types well and works great for both my TIFF's and JPGS. >It does find faces in photos so you can tag them, but does not yet >suggest who that person might be based on other tags. This is something >they are working on and hopefully will be in the next release. >One feature I like is the batch queue manager. There are a large number >of options from resizing to watermarking that I use often. I can >quickly >select what photos I want for web use, resize them all in one step. I >can chose if I want them in the same folder or else where, or if I want >them to keep the same names or change them. It also imports from sites >like Facebook and PicasaWeb. It also exports to many online sites. I >love using this to share photos with family on Facebook, or download an >album of photos a cousin has posted there. >There is a bit of a learning curve with the program, but it's not to >hard to pick up. > >As to organizing the files, what I originally used was surname folders, >with sub-folders per family group. Something like this. > >Genealogy >-> Surnames >-->Smith >---> John Smith & Mary Jones > >Then under each family folder I have folders for their record groups, >births, marriage, death, census etc. When I name a file I start it with >the date it was created. So if John Smith and Mary Jone married on 25 >Dec 1855 in Cambrage, MA. I would name it like this. >1855DEC25 USA MA M John Smith & Mary Jones.jpg > >Many would say instead of using spaces to use a dash or underscore, I >haven't had an issue with it locally or online but it would look like >this. > >1855DEC25_USA_MA_M_John_Smith_&_Mary_Jones.jpg > >In either way I'm recording the file starting with the date, then >place, >what B for birth, BA for baptism, M for marriage, D for death, then who >the record is for. >I originally had a separate folder system for photos. However I've been >thinking about moving these into my main genealogy folders. This will >be >a big job! > >For my Swedish lines, it has been a big challenge. Surnames change with >each generation and often with in siblings will have different >surnames. The sons' using *sson or *ssen and the daughters using >*dotter or *datter. But I also have people people who changed their >name to military surnames. > >For this line I organize everything under a Place folder. Under that I >break it down by County and Parish folders. However I'm still not 100% >happy with this system. I'll be adding tags to the images and that will >help to quickly find and work with the records for each family group >living in the same parish. Of course having everything linked into >genealogy software helps a lot to! > >Kim > > > > > > > >Legacy User Group guidelines: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ >Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ >Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) >and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). >To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Organization of Photos, Scanned Documents and etc.
I have a multitude of folders and subfolders, but provided standard Windows file-naming conventions are used, that is only use alphanumeric characters plus hyphens and underscores, and ensure all file names are unique. If files are then moved selecting one image from each of the folders for an unidentified image will enable Legacy to find all the other images in that folder. I do not believe that there is a perfect system as it's pretty much a matter of personal choice provided that the basic conventions are observed. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: JLB Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 3:27 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Organization of Photos, Scanned Documents and etc. Ron, the issues with linking files are the problems that come up with either renaming them or moving them to other folder locations. As I've seen expressed here, some people file in a multitude of folders and sub-folders. Moving hundreds of file-paths would not be easy. Renaming thousands of files even worse. The original OP was looking for a system to 'get started'. Someone just starting out may not know enough to settle on their own 'perfect system' from the get-go so linking files can complicate their process of discovery. One shortcut in this regard: It's not necessary to browse to each file. You can drag and drop files into the galleries. It doesn't always work on the first try or second or third, but with persistence ... - JL Beeken JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://jlog.jgen.ws/ On 3/18/2013 4:48 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote: > I have kept out of this discussion as it does not seem appropriate to > suggest my system, or to be accurate lack of. Unfortunately I now have too > many images to contemplate change. > > However, unless I have missed something, I cannot understand why one would > not attach images to Legacy, I do and over many years have had very few > problems. During this time I have moved my data onto 3 (I think) new > computers, but other than that have not really had to change many links. > > Whilst I, and JLB, know how to enter images into webpages or reports what > happens if someone does not? In any event, the process of so doing is an > absolute time consuming bore. I do it for some Event or Source Images but > for nothing else. > > BTW for manipulating photos, the free GIMP will do most jobs, Photoshop is > not necessary for most people. > > Ron Ferguson > http://www.fergys.co.uk/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Organization of Photos, Scanned Documents and etc.
I never knew a contrarian had to be logical! As to why: I wanted the folder in chronological order (as people lived) rather than alphabetical. In another mail I wrote that I keep very few paper documents/pictures; if I had lots of paper documents, throwing everything into one big box (like one big folder online) would be a disaster. Ron From: Sally M [mailto:macia...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 6:09 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Organization of Photos, Scanned Documents and etc. As a contrarian, would expect logical explanation for your choices so what are benefits of placing birth year first rather than surname? My initial inclination is lastname..firstname..descriptor. Do you use your system for both digital & paper filing? Sally K Macias Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Organization of Photos, Scanned Documents and etc.
DigiKam is another great free open source photo organizer/editor. There are versions for Linux and Windows, I'm a Linux user. http://www.digikam.org It has the option to set it so the tags and description are written to the meta data and so are transfered with the image. It handles all image types well and works great for both my TIFF's and JPGS. It does find faces in photos so you can tag them, but does not yet suggest who that person might be based on other tags. This is something they are working on and hopefully will be in the next release. One feature I like is the batch queue manager. There are a large number of options from resizing to watermarking that I use often. I can quickly select what photos I want for web use, resize them all in one step. I can chose if I want them in the same folder or else where, or if I want them to keep the same names or change them. It also imports from sites like Facebook and PicasaWeb. It also exports to many online sites. I love using this to share photos with family on Facebook, or download an album of photos a cousin has posted there. There is a bit of a learning curve with the program, but it's not to hard to pick up. As to organizing the files, what I originally used was surname folders, with sub-folders per family group. Something like this. Genealogy -> Surnames -->Smith ---> John Smith & Mary Jones Then under each family folder I have folders for their record groups, births, marriage, death, census etc. When I name a file I start it with the date it was created. So if John Smith and Mary Jone married on 25 Dec 1855 in Cambrage, MA. I would name it like this. 1855DEC25 USA MA M John Smith & Mary Jones.jpg Many would say instead of using spaces to use a dash or underscore, I haven't had an issue with it locally or online but it would look like this. 1855DEC25_USA_MA_M_John_Smith_&_Mary_Jones.jpg In either way I'm recording the file starting with the date, then place, what B for birth, BA for baptism, M for marriage, D for death, then who the record is for. I originally had a separate folder system for photos. However I've been thinking about moving these into my main genealogy folders. This will be a big job! For my Swedish lines, it has been a big challenge. Surnames change with each generation and often with in siblings will have different surnames. The sons' using *sson or *ssen and the daughters using *dotter or *datter. But I also have people people who changed their name to military surnames. For this line I organize everything under a Place folder. Under that I break it down by County and Parish folders. However I'm still not 100% happy with this system. I'll be adding tags to the images and that will help to quickly find and work with the records for each family group living in the same parish. Of course having everything linked into genealogy software helps a lot to! Kim Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Organization of Photos, Scanned Documents and etc.
Ron, the issues with linking files are the problems that come up with either renaming them or moving them to other folder locations. As I've seen expressed here, some people file in a multitude of folders and sub-folders. Moving hundreds of file-paths would not be easy. Renaming thousands of files even worse. The original OP was looking for a system to 'get started'. Someone just starting out may not know enough to settle on their own 'perfect system' from the get-go so linking files can complicate their process of discovery. One shortcut in this regard: It's not necessary to browse to each file. You can drag and drop files into the galleries. It doesn't always work on the first try or second or third, but with persistence ... - JL Beeken JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://jlog.jgen.ws/ On 3/18/2013 4:48 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote: > I have kept out of this discussion as it does not seem appropriate to > suggest my system, or to be accurate lack of. Unfortunately I now have too > many images to contemplate change. > > However, unless I have missed something, I cannot understand why one would > not attach images to Legacy, I do and over many years have had very few > problems. During this time I have moved my data onto 3 (I think) new > computers, but other than that have not really had to change many links. > > Whilst I, and JLB, know how to enter images into webpages or reports what > happens if someone does not? In any event, the process of so doing is an > absolute time consuming bore. I do it for some Event or Source Images but > for nothing else. > > BTW for manipulating photos, the free GIMP will do most jobs, Photoshop is > not necessary for most people. > > Ron Ferguson > http://www.fergys.co.uk/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Q about sending someone a portion of my file
There are two options: 1. Use a Focus group of the descendants of one person 2. Tag the Descendants of that person with a tag using advanced tagging then export everyone with that tag. Using tags though you can include extras such as the spouses and parents of tagged individuals (those may be missed with a focus group). To search old messages you need to access the list archives. There is a link in the footer added to each message from the list. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com -- On 18-Mar-13 11:12, Firmin Charlot wrote: > > Hi, I'm new here. I have not found a way to search past messages for an > answer to this question, so if there is a way to search, I'd welcome knowing > how to do that. > > My question is this: I want to share with someone a descendant line from my > tree. We have a common ancestor, with each of our families descending from a > different sibling of that ancestor. I would like to share with her a few > generations descending from "my" sibling. If I could do this as a GEDCOM > file, it would be easiest for both of us, but I'm not sure how to go about > it. (Or even if it's possible.) NOTE: I am looking to share the > generations DESCENDING from a single person, not ascending from them. I know > how to do the ascending file. > > Thanks, > Stephanie Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Q about sending someone a portion of my file
Hi, I'm new here. I have not found a way to search past messages for an answer to this question, so if there is a way to search, I'd welcome knowing how to do that. My question is this: I want to share with someone a descendant line from my tree. We have a common ancestor, with each of our families descending from a different sibling of that ancestor. I would like to share with her a few generations descending from "my" sibling. If I could do this as a GEDCOM file, it would be easiest for both of us, but I'm not sure how to go about it. (Or even if it's possible.) NOTE: I am looking to share the generations DESCENDING from a single person, not ascending from them. I know how to do the ascending file. Thanks, Stephanie Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Organization of Photos, Scanned Documents and etc.
As a contrarian, would expect logical explanation for your choices so what are benefits of placing birth year first rather than surname? My initial inclination is lastname..firstname..descriptor. Do you use your system for both digital & paper filing? Sally K Macias On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 6:18 PM, Ron Walter wrote: > Cathy, > > ** ** > > As a contrarian > > ** ** > > **1. **I throw EVERYTHING into only one folder > > **2. **I use this naming scheme for EVERY file: > .lastname.firstname..descriptor; since I have many German > ancestors and they all seemed to be named Johann Friedrich, I started the > scheme with (birth year); is the year of the document or > picture; descriptor is something like ‘federal.census’, ‘state.census’, > ‘tombstone.picture’, ‘death.certificate.’, ‘marriage.record’, etc. > > **3. **Then I use Windows Explorer’s search function to find the > specific documents I’m looking for – for example, if it is a specific > person, I enter ‘.lastname’ or for all the family members I enter the > family ‘lastname’ or for all the marriage.records just enter > ‘marriage.records’. > > ** ** > > As they say, YMMV. > > ** ** > > Best > > Ron > > ** ** > > > > ** ** > > *From:* Sentz [mailto:ro...@nycap.rr.com] > *Sent:* Friday, March 15, 2013 3:52 PM > *To:* LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com > *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Organization of Photos, Scanned Documents and etc.** > ** > > ** ** > > I am in the process of deciding how to best reorganize things, since I > don't have that many individual records yet and need to do some major clean > up with my source citations. Prior to getting Legacy, I set up 2 Genealogy > folders with sub folders by Surname and then Surname with the head of > household under both My Documents and My Photos in Windows 7. In my mind > at the time I was thinking that Pictures/Photos should be separate from > images of documents, census records, family documents, death records, birth > records, etc. Using the Surname organization seems to work along with the > "filing cabinet" in my head so that I could find things easily. How do > some of you organize your photos and scanned docs? Do you put them in the > same "Picture" folders? Seems like it would be more efficient, eventhough > they may be a different type of media. > > > > Geoff Rasmusen uses the Geographic filing system. I see the logic behind > doing this, but will likely stick with the Surname filing for now. > > > > Cathy > > > > Researching Conger, Landmark, Lilly, Hobaugh, Hoyle, Kent, Lindquist, > Nyberg, Petrie, Seeley, Sentz et al > -- > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2013.0.2899 / Virus Database: 2641/6142 - Release Date: 03/02/13 > Internal Virus Database is out of date. > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and > on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and > on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Organization of Photos, Scanned Documents and etc.
I have kept out of this discussion as it does not seem appropriate to suggest my system, or to be accurate lack of. Unfortunately I now have too many images to contemplate change. However, unless I have missed something, I cannot understand why one would not attach images to Legacy, I do and over many years have had very few problems. During this time I have moved my data onto 3 (I think) new computers, but other than that have not really had to change many links. Whilst I, and JLB, know how to enter images into webpages or reports what happens if someone does not? In any event, the process of so doing is an absolute time consuming bore. I do it for some Event or Source Images but for nothing else. BTW for manipulating photos, the free GIMP will do most jobs, Photoshop is not necessary for most people. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: JLB Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 12:39 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Organization of Photos, Scanned Documents and etc. Photoshop Elements, IMO, is very good for editing photos. The Organizer (the other half) is very poor. In particular in regards to tagging. You can add keywords in the Organizer. And captions, I think. Everything else (locations, copyright, source, object name and all the other IPTC fields) can only be done one photo at a time through the File Info window accessible only through the Editor. It's quite a nonsensical arrangement. The mapping feature in the Organizer is also pathetic. There's no batch-mode either. I could go on for hours about how much I dislike it. I did use it many years ago and tried a couple of trials since then hoping it had been improved. It seemed to be the best there was until I found something better. And I was so relieved to find something better. Photo Mechanic, as well as GeoSetter and XnView can be used for adding metadata as well as other functions that differ from one to the other; the first two also handle GPS. GeoSetter is particularly good at that. None of them is an 'organizer' per se. In other words, you're working on the images wherever they already exist on your computer. Which is good because if you move them around or rename them you can still find them. (Another yuck point about APSE Organizer; it creates a linked catalog.) XnView and GeoSetter are both free. Photo Mechanic is a free trial. I would suggest trying all of them and having a look. Once you establish a work flow with them or one or two of them you'll find what you prefer. Try Photo Mechanic when you've got time to enjoy the trial. The others don't matter since you can have them forever. XnView also has a portable version if you're into PortableApps. http://portableapps.com/ About not linking files to Legacy - I did link them at one time. From where I started to where I am now I probably moved or renamed files about 20 times. By the time I got to 15,000 source citations with images attached, relinking them to Legacy had gotten really tedious. One day I knocked myself up the side of the head about my stupidity in that regard. The filing system I use now makes it really easy to access files anywhere and anytime in a variety of ways, generally quicker than I can click through to them inside Legacy. Linking files to Legacy seems to me a make-work project with zero benefits. I link individual pictures because I like to print them out in reports. But only one per person. If I really want to get serious with photos I can easily search them and create things outside Legacy like collage or focused PDFs. There are so many ways of being creative with images and I really don't see Legacy being the place for it. Of course, all data is extracted from each record and entered into Legacy and sourced. - JL Beeken JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://jlog.jgen.ws/ On 3/17/2013 4:55 PM, Sentz wrote: > JLB > > Just getting back to you after reviewing your powerpoint presentation on > MRINs...interesting how your thought process evolved. I may incorporate > some of your ideas as I formulate my new computer filing strategy. > > I have been considering purchasing photoshop Elements software. Would > you know the advantages of using photo mechanic software instead > Elements? > > Understanding LTools, Geosetter and XnView and what they do is on my > list. At this point, I don't have that many individual records and > haven't had difficulty finding multimedia files. > > Also, if I am understanding correctly, what is your thinking about not > linking any images to Legacy, or just 1 photo for an individual. It's > interesting to hear that some others only link some images, but not > everything, which makes sense. Do you link any census images at all? > Or do you just enter the census data? > > Cathy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.c
