[LegacyUG] Intellimerge

[Jay 1FamilyTree]

I ran an intellishare merge search for dups and got an error message stating

 "xxx number individuals with a modified date that is before the start of
this IntelliShare merge process."

What do I need to do to correct this?

Thanks in advance for any help.

Jay



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RE: [LegacyUG] Find A Grave template

[Jennifer Crockett]

My own mother's death certificate has the wrong crematorium. My sister picked 
it up after the death certificate was issued and we don't know who was 
responsible for the error. In this case, of course, we knew which was the 
correct crematorium.

Regards,

Jennifer
http://colston-wenck.com

From: Kathy Thompson [mailto:kmthoms...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, 5 September 2013 12:32 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Find A Grave template

I have one of these situations - I have personally physically stood in front of 
the grave of someone whose death certificate states he's buried in another town 
entirely.
The cemetery where he is has him in their records, but the cemetery where his 
death certs says he is, does not.
In my case, both places start with the same 5 letters, but the mis-information 
is still there.
As such, I have made notes with the death certificate entry, and the grave 
entry stating the facts, and documenting the steps I took to ensure that he was 
not at the other location.
I guess what you do to ensure the record is correct in your own tree, depends 
on where the error is, and if it is something that can be changed or adjusted 
with relative ease.



On 5 September 2013 12:21, Jackie King  wrote:
Question - you have the image or have seen the gravestone. You have the 
cemetery records. They don't always match. What do you do and how do you source 
it?





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Re: [LegacyUG] Find A Grave template

[Kathy Thompson]

I have one of these situations - I have personally physically stood in
front of the grave of someone whose death certificate states he's buried in
another town entirely.
The cemetery where he is has him in their records, but the cemetery where
his death certs says he is, does not.
In my case, both places start with the same 5 letters, but the
mis-information is still there.
As such, I have made notes with the death certificate entry, and the grave
entry stating the facts, and documenting the steps I took to ensure that he
was not at the other location.

I guess what you do to ensure the record is correct in your own tree,
depends on where the error is, and if it is something that can be changed
or adjusted with relative ease.





On 5 September 2013 12:21, Jackie King  wrote:

> Question - you have the image or have seen the gravestone. You have the
> cemetery records. They don't always match. What do you do and how do you
> source it?
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 7:56 PM, Paula Ryburn 
> wrote:
>
>> Great blog & comments!!  But I see they left Michael Hait's proposed
>> alternative unevaluated.  I tended to agree that the grave stone is the
>> source, like the census is the source... and then include where you found
>> it.  Then again, I don't use Find A Grave for my own ancestors much.  Hmm...
>>
>> --Paula in Texas
>> Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton
>> Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis
>> Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind
>> Hopkins Hughes Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters
>> Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams
>>
>>   --
>>  *From:* Chris Seens 
>> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> *Sent:* Sunday, September 1, 2013 11:39 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Find A Grave template
>>
>> Don't know if this will help you but Emily posted about this earlier.
>> Check it out.
>>
>> http://www.footnotemaven.com/2009/10/citation-geeks-elizabeth-shown-mills.html?m=1
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Find A Grave template

[Jackie King]

Question - you have the image or have seen the gravestone. You have the
cemetery records. They don't always match. What do you do and how do you
source it?



On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 7:56 PM, Paula Ryburn wrote:

> Great blog & comments!!  But I see they left Michael Hait's proposed
> alternative unevaluated.  I tended to agree that the grave stone is the
> source, like the census is the source... and then include where you found
> it.  Then again, I don't use Find A Grave for my own ancestors much.  Hmm...
>
> --Paula in Texas
> Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton
> Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis
> Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind
> Hopkins Hughes Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters
> Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams
>
>   --
>  *From:* Chris Seens 
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 1, 2013 11:39 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Find A Grave template
>
> Don't know if this will help you but Emily posted about this earlier.
> Check it out.
>
> http://www.footnotemaven.com/2009/10/citation-geeks-elizabeth-shown-mills.html?m=1
>
> Chris
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Two questions

[singhals]

Wow!  It works.  The left margin went from 3 inches to 1,
just by changing that number in page-setup from 1.25 to 1.
Irrational, but NICE.

Thanks, Ron!

Cheryl

Ron Taylor wrote:

> 2) Reports>Books and Other>Descendant Narrative>Report
> Options>Page Setup...that's where you can define margins,
> page size, etc. There is another set of options at
> ...>Descendant Narrative>Page Layout>Custom Report
> Spacing...that may help with your formatting.
> Ron Taylor
> 
> *From:* singhals 
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 28, 2013 9:14 AM
> *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Two questions
>
> 1. Oldtown, Allegany County, Maryland is the location I've
> given for an 1787 event. When I attempted to insert the
> Geo-location data, the program correctly complains that
> Allegany county wasn't formed until 1789. So, I then select
> when I know to be the name of the county from which Allegany
> was created; Geo-locator can't find Oldtown.
>
> Surely I'm doing /something/ wrong, but what? And yes that
> IS how Maryland spells Allegany.
>
>
> 2. When printing-to-file a descendant narrative, I seem to
> have nearly 3 inches of left margin. I'd really rather not
> have that much white space over there, because it makes some
> of the longer NOTES even longer than they need to be.
> I can't figure out how to change that indent. For that
> matter I don't see how to make line 1 of the report start at
> the selected 1.25" margin, either. Where're those commands
> stashed?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Cheryl




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Re: [LegacyUG] default 4-part location - city, county, state, country

[Kathy Thompson]

I hope so Leon - thanks


On 5 September 2013 09:22, Leon Chapman  wrote:

> Kathy:
> I don't think you need to worry about the location fields.
> Legacy 8 should be able to read any of your combination of location fields
> for the migration report.
>
> ___
> Leon Chapman
> chap...@gmail.com
> -
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Kathy Thompson wrote:
>
>> I'm not actually "hung up" about it, I merely wanted to know if my
>> locations, being a mix of 3 part UK & 3 part Aus, with a smattering of 4
>> part US, were going to produce the right results in L8's Origins and
>> Migration reports, and if not, what did I need to do to ensure that they
>> would.
>> I am very much looking forward to the Origins and Migration report
>> feature as I really want to know from a single look, where did I come from.
>>
>>
>> On 5 September 2013 08:04, Mike Fry  wrote:
>>
>>> On 2013/09/04 23:16, Angela Gabbard wrote:
>>>
>>> > Not sure why so many people are hung up on the 4 part location
>>> convention.Legacy
>>> > isn’t!Legacy offers a 9 part location.You can include anything you’d
>>> like from
>>> > 0-9 parts.Legacy doesn’t care.If you want to be able to sort, then you
>>> do need
>>> > to have some sort of consistency with your locations.
>>>
>>> People get hung up because, let's see:-
>>>
>>> a) the LDS likes it
>>> b) Ancestry likes it
>>> c) Legacy's own geo-Database likes it
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards,
>>> Mike Fry
>>> Johannesburg (g)
>>>
>>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] default 4-part location - city, county, state, country

[Leon Chapman]

Kathy:
I don't think you need to worry about the location fields.
Legacy 8 should be able to read any of your combination of location fields
for the migration report.

___
Leon Chapman
chap...@gmail.com
-


On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Kathy Thompson  wrote:

> I'm not actually "hung up" about it, I merely wanted to know if my
> locations, being a mix of 3 part UK & 3 part Aus, with a smattering of 4
> part US, were going to produce the right results in L8's Origins and
> Migration reports, and if not, what did I need to do to ensure that they
> would.
> I am very much looking forward to the Origins and Migration report feature
> as I really want to know from a single look, where did I come from.
>
>
> On 5 September 2013 08:04, Mike Fry  wrote:
>
>> On 2013/09/04 23:16, Angela Gabbard wrote:
>>
>> > Not sure why so many people are hung up on the 4 part location
>> convention.Legacy
>> > isn’t!Legacy offers a 9 part location.You can include anything you’d
>> like from
>> > 0-9 parts.Legacy doesn’t care.If you want to be able to sort, then you
>> do need
>> > to have some sort of consistency with your locations.
>>
>> People get hung up because, let's see:-
>>
>> a) the LDS likes it
>> b) Ancestry likes it
>> c) Legacy's own geo-Database likes it
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Mike Fry
>> Johannesburg (g)
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] default 4-part location - city, county, state, country

[Kathy Thompson]

I'm not actually "hung up" about it, I merely wanted to know if my
locations, being a mix of 3 part UK & 3 part Aus, with a smattering of 4
part US, were going to produce the right results in L8's Origins and
Migration reports, and if not, what did I need to do to ensure that they
would.
I am very much looking forward to the Origins and Migration report feature
as I really want to know from a single look, where did I come from.


On 5 September 2013 08:04, Mike Fry  wrote:

> On 2013/09/04 23:16, Angela Gabbard wrote:
>
> > Not sure why so many people are hung up on the 4 part location
> convention.Legacy
> > isn’t!Legacy offers a 9 part location.You can include anything you’d
> like from
> > 0-9 parts.Legacy doesn’t care.If you want to be able to sort, then you
> do need
> > to have some sort of consistency with your locations.
>
> People get hung up because, let's see:-
>
> a) the LDS likes it
> b) Ancestry likes it
> c) Legacy's own geo-Database likes it
>
> --
> Regards,
> Mike Fry
> Johannesburg (g)
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] default 4-part location - city, county, state, country

[Mike Fry]

On 2013/09/04 23:16, Angela Gabbard wrote:

> Not sure why so many people are hung up on the 4 part location 
> convention.Legacy
> isn’t!Legacy offers a 9 part location.You can include anything you’d like from
> 0-9 parts.Legacy doesn’t care.If you want to be able to sort, then you do need
> to have some sort of consistency with your locations.

People get hung up because, let's see:-

a) the LDS likes it
b) Ancestry likes it
c) Legacy's own geo-Database likes it

--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg (g)



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Re: [LegacyUG] Report preview: default to whole page?

[Sherry/Support]

At the top of the page where it shows "Zoom", the drop-downs set the default.

I see that's not documented in the v7.5 Help file - I'll ask the
programmer to add it to the documentation. It is documented in v8's
Help file.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Paula Ryburn
 wrote:
> Is there a way I could have the default zoom level on my "preview" of all
> reports to be "whole page"?  (rather than page width)
> Thanks,
>
> --Paula in Texas
>



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Re: [LegacyUG] Conditional Sentence Definitions

[Kathy Thompson]

Bit I don't want to use His or Her or just the first name. This is going to to 
typically be be the last sentence or paragraph in the person's story, I want to 
use their name, in full, as it was at the time of their death, without having 
to write a new sentence for each and every person.

Kathy

On 05/09/2013, at 4:20 AM, Paula Ryburn  wrote:

> Or the FirstName field?  And that would work for everyone.
>
> --Paula
>
> From: CE WOOD 
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 12:20 PM
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Conditional Sentence Definitions
>
> Since the event is listed under an individual, you don't need to use the 
> actual name. You could use [his/her].
>
>  On 2 Jan 1900, her death notice appeared in The Newspaper.
>
>
> CE
>
> Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 20:50:48 +1000
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Conditional Sentence Definitions
> From: kmthoms...@gmail.com
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>
> Sorry to ask yet another question about Sentences, but this one is more about 
> Conditional Formatting within a definition.
>
> I have an event "Death Notice" - everyone is likely to have one (no-one is 
> immortal afterall)
> Because females typically change their surname at the time of their marriage, 
> death notices are usually published in the married name rather than the 
> maiden name. Males usually don't change their surname.
>
> As such, what I want my sentence to do for my Death Notice event is to 
> produce one of two possibilities.
> For males and unmarried females - use the preferred given name and surname
> For married woman - use the preferred given name but use the married surname
>
> As an example...
> Jane Doe, dies unmarried on 1 Jan 1900, death notice is published on 2 Jan 
> 1900 in The Newspaper.
> The sentence should read roughly like
> On 2 Jan 1900, the death notice for Jane Doe appeared in The Newspaper. (any 
> notes)(sources)
>
> However, if Jane Doe had married John Blow at some point, then her death 
> notice sentence should read
> On 2 Jan 1900, the death notice for Jane Blow appeared in The Newspaper.
>
> A male would have the same sentence result regardless of marital status due 
> to no change of name.
>
> I know that there are some Conditional things that can be written in to the 
> Sentence Definitions (living vs deceased words, buried vs cremated), but I 
> can't figure out the [:: :: ] combo for this sentence to work.
>
> Anyone know how I can achieve this, or am I currently asking too much of the 
> program?
>
> Thanks.
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] default 4-part location - city, county, state, country

[Angela Gabbard]

Not sure why so many people are hung up on the 4 part location convention.  
Legacy isn’t!  Legacy offers a 9 part location.   You can include anything 
you’d like from 0-9 parts.  Legacy doesn’t care.  If you want to be able to 
sort, then you do need to have some sort of consistency with your locations.

Legacy doesn’t have anything that I know of that DEPENDS on the 4 part 
location.   It is however the standard way for genealogists to enter locations 
in the US and thus is the general way locations are discussed and typically how 
they are shown in examples.

Angela

From: Paula Ryburn [mailto:paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 2:19 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] default 4-part location - city, county, state, country

Hopefully, Legacy did not ADD any new features that also DEPEND on this 4-part 
location convention.  You would think they would NOT, because there are so many 
reasons why so many of us don't use it--even within the US.  ?

--Paula




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Re: [LegacyUG] Conditional Sentence Definitions

[Paula Ryburn]

Or the FirstName field?  And that would work for everyone.
 
--Paula 



 From: CE WOOD 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 12:20 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Conditional Sentence Definitions




Since the event is listed under an individual, you don't need to use the actual 
name. You could use [his/her].
 
 On 2 Jan 1900, her death notice appeared in The Newspaper.


CE
 



Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 20:50:48 +1000
Subject: [LegacyUG] Conditional Sentence Definitions
From: kmthoms...@gmail.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com


Sorry to ask yet another question about Sentences, but this one is more about 
Conditional Formatting within a definition.

I have an event "Death Notice" - everyone is likely to have one (no-one is 
immortal afterall)

Because females typically change their surname at the time of their marriage, 
death notices are usually published in the married name rather than the maiden 
name. Males usually don't change their surname.


As such, what I want my sentence to do for my Death Notice event is to produce 
one of two possibilities.

For males and unmarried females - use the preferred given name and surname

For married woman - use the preferred given name but use the married surname


As an example...

Jane Doe, dies unmarried on 1 Jan 1900, death notice is published on 2 Jan 1900 
in The Newspaper.

The sentence should read roughly like

On 2 Jan 1900, the death notice for Jane Doe appeared in The Newspaper. (any 
notes)(sources)


However, if Jane Doe had married John Blow at some point, then her death notice 
sentence should read

On 2 Jan 1900, the death notice for Jane Blow appeared in The Newspaper.


A male would have the same sentence result regardless of marital status due to 
no change of name.


I know that there are some Conditional things that can be written in to the 
Sentence Definitions (living vs deceased words, buried vs cremated), but I 
can't figure out the [:: :: ] combo for this sentence to work.

Anyone know how I can achieve this, or am I currently asking too much of the 
program?


Thanks.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Cemetery name in Burial Location, Burial Address, or separate Cemetery event?

[Paula Ryburn]

I've only tried that expand/contract thing once, and either it didn't work or I 
didn't like the results, and I had to backtrack, so that is not a "benefit" to 
me.

And I'm not sure why having a separate Cemetery EVENT would be so much more 
beneficial in searches.  Off the top of my head I don't see how much easier it 
can be than to click on the Location and click "options" and "show list"... and 
build my report from there.
 
--Paula in Texas
Researching:  Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman 
Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field 
Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle 
Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche 
Ryburn Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams



 From: Sherry/Support 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Cemetery name in Burial Location, Burial Address, or 
separate Cemetery event?


If you enter the Cemetery names as an Event (I have a Cemetery Event),
you can do so much more with that in searching and creating reports
and you don't have to worry with problems of sorting and using
Expand/Contract Location Parts in the Master Location List. Those
tools don't work correctly if you don't use the default 4-part
location - city, county, state, country. Also, the formatting needs to
be correct for USA County Verifier to locate the county

I would do the same for hospitals, churches, etc.

We realize this can pose a problem for locations outside of the US,
but you can compensate for it by using commas as place holders.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 5:54 PM, Emily Moore  wrote:
> I had decided to leave the cemetery names out of the burial location field
> to minimize the number of locations in the master location list.  However,
> because the search options are better with the cemetery name in the location
> field rather than the address field, I changed my mind and left the cemetery
> names in the burial locations list.
> By the way, I also have church names in the christening location fields.
> Emily


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Re: [LegacyUG] default 4-part location - city, county, state, country

[Paula Ryburn]

Hopefully, Legacy did not ADD any new features that also DEPEND on this 4-part 
location convention.  You would think they would NOT, because there are so many 
reasons why so many of us don't use it--even within the US.  ?
 
--Paula 



 From: CE WOOD 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 12:07 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] default 4-part location - city, county, state, country




A cursory search of the archives will reveal that the arbitrary use of the four 
part location works for very little. Legacy likes it, and has designed features 
that depend on it. There was no need to do so, but they did it anyway.
 
Many of us, especially those not in the USA, find it obnoxious at best. Use 
what works best for you. There are work-around solutions to the minor problems 
of using however many or few location parts as work for you. Forget the commas 
too. Use what you want, not what some arbiter, who has no inkling of your needs 
tells you to do.
 
The good part about Legacy is that you CAN do what you want. Yes, you may not 
be able to use some feature, but maybe you would never have used it anyway.
 
All locations can be more easily and accurately identified outside of Legacy, 
such as the precise location of a grave, if you so wish! As for accuracy, THAT 
is much more accurate that anything Legacy offers.

CE



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Re: [LegacyUG] Cemetery name in Burial Location, Burial Address, or separate Cemetery event?

[Paula Ryburn]

Thanks, Emily.  I like the cemetery, hospital and church names in the Location 
fields, because I don't like how things print when you have them in the Address 
fields/table (Legacy needs to improve the output side of the Addresses, imo, 
before I will consider using them again).  Not that I don't also have the 
places in the Address table, because I can record all sorts of information 
about them there (GPS, for example), but I don't want the redundancy in reports.

But I'm always interested to hear from the "don't put it in the Location field" 
crowd, in case I've forgotten an aspect.
Thanks again,
 
--Paula

PS--now that I've typed that, I need to re-think usage in Charting--maybe I 
just need to tweak the Short Name field...?



 From: Emily Moore 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Cemetery name in Burial Location, Burial Address, or 
separate Cemetery event?



I had decided to leave the cemetery names out of the burial location field to 
minimize the number of locations in the master location list.  However, because 
the search options are better with the cemetery name in the location field 
rather than the address field, I changed my mind and left the cemetery names in 
the burial locations list.  
By the way, I also have church names in the christening location fields.
Emily

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 3, 2013, at 8:44 PM, Paula Ryburn  wrote:


Emily,
>What ultimately made you decide to take the cemetery name out of the Location 
>field?  Just curious.
> 



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Re: [LegacyUG] Photo album or scrapbook sort order

[Paula Ryburn]

Further testing on an individual shows that their pictures are printed in the 
order of the tick boxes... individ, individ event, marriage, marr event.  
Though for one individual with 4 individual pictures, those 4 pictures 
sometimes print in one order & sometimes in another...?!  (depending on if a 
marriage is also selected!)
 
--Paula 



 From: Paula Ryburn 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Photo album or scrapbook sort order



I did get so far as to find out that for an individual, the individual's 
pictures print before that person's marriage's pictures.  For the ONE I tested, 
he didn't have event pictures, so I don't know where those would 
fall--something to test further.

My original question was really more about in what order the PEOPLE show up 
when the scrapbook is for a group of people.
 
--Paula in Texas
Researching:  Adair Baker
 Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll 
Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale 
Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell 
McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sanford Short Singer 
Sullivan Weller Williams



 From: Sherry/Support 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Monday, September 2, 2013 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Photo album or scrapbook sort order


There is no defined sort order. This is something that's on our
enhancement request list.

Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



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Re: [LegacyUG] Where are census events recorded.

[Paula Ryburn]

I do the same thing as Brian, basically, except I forgot I could use the 
events/facts clipboard to make it go faster--!  (I probably started entering 
Census events before there was an event clipboard...?)  For a family, I enter 
one census event for the couple, then a census event for the other household 
members.

So, for a given individual, I might have 3 census events as a child in his/her 
parent's household, then 3-4 census events on the marriage, then one or two 
more census events for the surviving spouse.  Sometimes, too, a widow might be 
part of her son-in-law's household, for example.  So far, this has been fine 
for my reporting purposes.

One interesting point Mike (I think) reminded me of:  He said you have to have 
Census events for the Census search feature to work... but then I was wondering 
if each spouse would show up with or without a census record in the Census 
search feature, based on the way I've entered census events...?  Hmm... worth a 
test...
 
--Paula in Texas
Researching:  Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman 
Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field 
Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle 
Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche 
Ryburn Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams



 From: Brian L. Lightfoot 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 1:26 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Where are census events recorded.



Others have already responded with various methods of handling this 
information. I take a “combined” approach in that I enter the information as a 
census event for the marriage and I add into the notes for the event a short 
summary of everybody included in that census record (easily done with a copy 
and paste from online index summaries). I then copy that event to the clipboard 
in Legacy and paste the same event into each individual but this time 
eliminating all the other names other that the person involved. I then add a 
parenthetical remark at the end of the notes such as “Living with wife and 6 
children” or perhaps “Widowed and living with married son, XXX, and his 
family.” Those little parenthetical remarks have helped me at times track the 
timeline for certain persons who moved about quite a bit. A short example of 
this methodology can be seen at 
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=brianlightfoot&id=I22921.




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[LegacyUG] Report preview: default to whole page?

[Paula Ryburn]

Is there a way I could have the default zoom level on my "preview" of all 
reports to be "whole page"?  (rather than page width)
Thanks,
 
--Paula in Texas
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Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field 
Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle 
Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche 
Ryburn Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams


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RE: [LegacyUG] Conditional Sentence Definitions

[CE WOOD]

Since the event is listed under an individual, you don't need to use the actual 
name. You could use [his/her].

 On 2 Jan 1900, her death notice appeared in The Newspaper.

CE

Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 20:50:48 +1000
Subject: [LegacyUG] Conditional Sentence Definitions
From: kmthoms...@gmail.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com

Sorry to ask yet another question about Sentences, but this one is more about 
Conditional Formatting within a definition.

I have an event "Death Notice" - everyone is likely to have one (no-one is 
immortal afterall)

Because females typically change their surname at the time of their marriage, 
death notices are usually published in the married name rather than the maiden 
name. Males usually don't change their surname.


As such, what I want my sentence to do for my Death Notice event is to produce 
one of two possibilities.
For males and unmarried females - use the preferred given name and surname

For married woman - use the preferred given name but use the married surname

As an example...
Jane Doe, dies unmarried on 1 Jan 1900, death notice is published on 2 Jan 1900 
in The Newspaper.

The sentence should read roughly like
On 2 Jan 1900, the death notice for Jane Doe appeared in The Newspaper. (any 
notes)(sources)

However, if Jane Doe had married John Blow at some point, then her death notice 
sentence should read

On 2 Jan 1900, the death notice for Jane Blow appeared in The Newspaper.

A male would have the same sentence result regardless of marital status due to 
no change of name.

I know that there are some Conditional things that can be written in to the 
Sentence Definitions (living vs deceased words, buried vs cremated), but I 
can't figure out the [:: :: ] combo for this sentence to work.


Anyone know how I can achieve this, or am I currently asking too much of the 
program?

Thanks.


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[LegacyUG] Conditional Sentence Definitions

[Kathy Thompson]

Sorry to ask yet another question about Sentences, but this one is more
about Conditional Formatting within a definition.

I have an event "Death Notice" - everyone is likely to have one (no-one is
immortal afterall)
Because females typically change their surname at the time of their
marriage, death notices are usually published in the married name rather
than the maiden name. Males usually don't change their surname.

As such, what I want my sentence to do for my Death Notice event is to
produce one of two possibilities.
For males and unmarried females - use the preferred given name and surname
For married woman - use the preferred given name but use the married surname

As an example...
Jane Doe, dies unmarried on 1 Jan 1900, death notice is published on 2 Jan
1900 in The Newspaper.
The sentence should read roughly like
On 2 Jan 1900, the death notice for Jane Doe appeared in The Newspaper.
(any notes)(sources)

However, if Jane Doe had married John Blow at some point, then her death
notice sentence should read
On 2 Jan 1900, the death notice for Jane Blow appeared in The Newspaper.

A male would have the same sentence result regardless of marital status due
to no change of name.

I know that there are some Conditional things that can be written in to the
Sentence Definitions (living vs deceased words, buried vs cremated), but I
can't figure out the [:: :: ] combo for this sentence to work.

Anyone know how I can achieve this, or am I currently asking too much of
the program?

Thanks.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Sentence Structure for Multiple events of the same type at the same time

[Kathy Thompson]

I have done and will be putting multiple death notices together in one
event, even when they are spread over the space of a week or more (they all
relate to one single event and nothing more)
it's when I have ongoing reports of an ongoing event in a person's life
that is no doubt impacting their life and their family's life at that time,
that I want to put in the multiple events for each newspaper report.
It helps me to realise just how much of an impact this event must have had
on the person, the family, and the community as well.


On 1 September 2013 03:16, Lavern Hall  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> A few of my relatives fall into this category. They have two or three
> death notices and perhaps a full obituary. I've entered those as Events and
> put the name of the newspaper in the description field and where the
> newspaper is published in the Location field. That reads nicely.
>
> As I view it, death notices provide information in a different format than
> obituaries do. One is primarily facts where the obits embellish the
> information, often in story format. In Legacy, you always have options as
> to how your final output will appear. If the Death Notices, for
> example, all provide the same information with the difference being they
> are from different newspapers, then I might have one or two
> up and follow with a notation that for additional death notices,
> see(wherever you decide to put them.)  I followed that format for a
> book I did, and placed the other death notices in an appendix called
> "Research." If you are including original articles, you could give the file
> a name that suits your purposes.
>
>  You have flexibility when you download your file for editing (RFT). I
> agree, I wouldn't want to read the same thing over and over again and would
> find it not only redundant, but boring.
> If the person's local newspaper published the death notice, that would
> have relavance over a tiny blurb, say in the college newspaper.
>  A combination of the local newspaper (providing the facts) and perhaps a
> nice Obit would make for interesting reading.
>
> IF you want to lump death notices together, (providing they all say the
> same thing), you could probably do so by saying something like, "The
> following death notice for [name of deceased] appeared in [name of
> newspapers and dates published.] This wouldn't be my choice, but it does
> work.
>
> I've been in the practice of transcribing docs (thanks to Geoff's
> webinars), so I'd do that for the articles with poor visual quality. And
> then when it comes time for your final output (book, etc.) include the
> original document someplace?
>
> Just some thoughts...hope they help.
>
> Lavern Hall
> ...
>
> On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 5:25 AM, Kathy Thompson wrote:
>
>>  Multiple events would seem logical yes, ok, hadn't thought of that.
>>
>> How can having newspaper names in the location field cause
>> complications?. I would appreiate more guidance on that before I get too
>> many newspaper bits in - and I am aware of at least 150 that I want to
>> include for at least a dozen people, so it's not going to be a "minor"
>> event.
>> Yes, the actual article will be being included/attached, but I'm aware
>> that a number of the articles I'll be including are of poor visual quality,
>> and not all of my family are going to want to read the whole article, but a
>> few sentences might pique their interest.
>>
>>
>> On 31 August 2013 16:37, Tony Rolfe  wrote:
>>
>>> The obvious solution would be to have multiple events.  "Newspaper
>>> Article 1", whose event sentence reads as your first example. "Newspaper
>>> Article 2" whose sentence starts "Another article" and "Newspaper
>>> Article 3" whose sentence begins "An article also".
>>>
>>> You could then mix and match them as needed, and even add more if you
>>> wanted later.
>>>
>>> I'm a bit worried about using a newspaper name in the location field.
>>> That would make all sorts of complications with the master Location
>>> List.  I have put the name of the newspaper into the description and the
>>> location of the event in the location field.  I use the notes field for
>>> the article title and a summary of the article.  The actual article is
>>> converted into a jpeg and attached in the usual way.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] default 4-part location - city, county, state, country

[Kathy Thompson]

Thanks everyone.
I think I'll have to reassess the location aspect once L8 is out, to see if
my locations work or not with it as I really am interested in see where my
family has gone and come from over time.


On 4 September 2013 15:12, Susan Perrett  wrote:

> Kathy,
>
> At 12:56 04/09/2013, you wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >Just wondering, given that the locations are supposed to be a 4-part
> >location (city, county, state, country), what should I do for
> >English & Australian locations which typically only have three parts
> >City, County, Country (for UK) or City, State, Country (for Australia)
> >.
>
> Absolutely no need to have a 4 part location.
>
> >I would rather not put in a blank county/state just for the sake of
> >uniformity, but I feel that with the upcoming update to Legacy 8 and
> >the new Origins and Migration Reports, I am going to have to do
> >something, or my reports are not going to be completely accurate.
> >
> >Does anyone have any suggestions as to what I can do - of if I do
> >need to put in a blank County/State, how I can do this for a
> >database of at least 5000 UK & Australian based people?
>
> there is absolutely no need to put in a blank, anywhere.
>
> Just type in the location spot, exactly what you want, with a comma
> between each place.
> e.g. I usually put the address or Church name, then the town/city,
> then the County (if in England/Scotland/Ireland) or State if in
> Australia, then the Country.
> You can even just put the Country with no blanks.
>
> There is no hard a fast rule, what ever you use it will come out in
> your reports as you want.
>
>
> >Thanks
> >Kathy
> >
>
> Susan Perrett
> Melbourne, Australia
> English webpage: http://www.st.net.au/~susanp/index.html
> American webpage: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~susanp>
> Research: ALSTON-Suffolk/Bedford/America,post 1850, BOURCHIER-UK,
> post 1650, CHUDLEIGH-Devon, All, HOLTTUM-Kent,pre
> 1720,MARTEN-Sussex,pre 1660, OXENDEN-Kent, All.
>
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