Re: [LegacyUG] TR: Duplicate
I would not be in favor of that as a date term. It’s not a modifier of the date, like “before”, “after”, or “between”. It’s an abbreviation of a past-tense verb, like “born”, “died”, “lived”, etc., and those are not date terms. You see born, died, etc., in phrases, such as a lifespan, but those verbs are not part of the date, they are a peer to the date where, for example, “born” answers “what?” and the date answers “when?”. I wouldn’t object to “fl” if used to indicate a minimum lifespan when no evidence has been found for birth or death, but there are other ways of indicating that, and those methods are widely supported, such as using “bef ” in a birth event when you have date evidence from another event. John Cardinal Products: <https://www.ora-extension.com/> ORA, <https://www.gedsite.com/> GedSite, <https://www.gedcompublisher.com/> Gedcom Publisher, <https://www.secondsite8.com/> Second Site, <https://www.johncardinal.com/tmgutil> TMG Utility, <https://www.tmgtogedcom.com/> TMG to GEDCOM Web Hosting for Genealogists: <https://www.familyhistoryhosting.com/> Family History Hosting From: LegacyUserGroup On Behalf Of sarrazingeor...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2022 9:55 AM To: 'Legacy User Group' Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] TR: Duplicate Would it be possible to accept the abbreviation fl in the date field? Floruit >From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Floruit ( <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA/English> /ˈflɔːrju.ɪt/; abbr. fl. or occasionally flor.; from <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_language> Latin <https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/floruit#Latin> floruit 'he/she flourished') denotes a date or period during which a person was known to have been alive or active. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floruit#cite_note-OELD-1> [1] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floruit#cite_note-AH-2> [2] In English, the unabbreviated word may also be used as a <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noun> noun indicating the time when someone flourished. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floruit#cite_note-OELD-1> [1] Etymology and use[ <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Floruit&action=edit§ion=1> edit] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_language> Latin: flōruit is the third-person singular perfect active indicative of the Latin verb flōreō, flōrēre "to bloom, flower, or flourish", from the noun flōs, flōris, "flower". <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floruit#cite_note-3> [3] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floruit#cite_note-AH-2> [2] Broadly, the term is employed in reference to the peak of activity for a person or movement. More specifically, it often is used in <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genealogy> genealogy and historical writing when a person's birth or death dates are unknown, but some other evidence exists that indicates when they were alive. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floruit#cite_note-Adeleye-4> [4] For example, if there are <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_(law)> wills <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attestation_clause> attested by John Jones in 1204, and 1229, and a record of his marriage in 1197, a record concerning him might be written as "John Jones (fl. 1197–1229)". The term is often used in <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_history> art history when dating the career of an artist. In this context, it denotes the period of the individual's artistic activity. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floruit#cite_note-5> [5] In some cases, it can be replaced by the words "active between [date] and [date]", depending on context and if space or style permits. -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 10?
Mary Ann, Adding support for Unicode is a major challenge for programs implemented with older technology components. Legacy would not make that decision lightly and would make the decision very early in the development of the new version. So, I suspect that Legacy already knows whether or not Unicode support will be added to Legacy 10, and if you ask Legacy directly, they may tell you. Of course, they may not. John Cardinal Products: <https://www.ora-extension.com/> ORA, <https://www.gedsite.com/> GedSite, <https://www.gedcompublisher.com/> Gedcom Publisher, <https://www.secondsite8.com/> Second Site, <https://www.johncardinal.com/tmgutil> TMG Utility, <https://www.tmgtogedcom.com/> TMG to GEDCOM Web Hosting for Genealogists: <https://www.familyhistoryhosting.com/> Family History Hosting ORA and GedSite recently won awards from GenSoftReviews: <https://www.gensoftreviews.com/awards.php> https://www.gensoftreviews.com/awards.php From: LegacyUserGroup On Behalf Of Mary Ann Latko Groetsema Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2022 12:48 PM To: Legacy User Group Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 10? Understood, but had to ask On Sat, Jan 22, 2022 at 12:10 PM Brian Kelly mailto:exma...@gmail.com> > wrote: Sorry, confidentiality rules prevent us from revealing any new features in Version 10. Brian Kelly On 22-Jan.-22 7:35 a.m., Mary Ann Latko Groetsema wrote: > Legacy 10? Can any of you in the beta group answer one question about > the upgrade? I am in the process of switching to RootsMagic 8 _solely > _for the reason that Legacy 9 does not support all the international > diacritics that I need. My ancestors were from Poland and not having > the correct spelling of their names and locations is bothersome. I > would really like to stay with Legacy, but if the next version does not > support the international diacritics, I'll proceed with my migration. > > Thanks in advance if you can provide this information. > > Mary Ann Latko Groetsema -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 10?
Brian, Thanks. The person who sent me the file has confirmed they are a Legacy beta tester and created the file with the beta version. There was another factor that was confusing things--unrelated to the Legacy version--and I'm addressing that with her now. My GedSite program has custom support for Legacy features like sentence templates. In the Legacy Export dialog window, the beta tester was not setting "Produce file for" to "Legacy". GedSite needs it set that way because Legacy will not include some of its custom GEDCOM records unless "Produce file for" is set to "Legacy". GedSite needs those Legacy-specific records. John -Original Message- From: LegacyUserGroup On Behalf Of Brian Kelly Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2022 7:18 AM To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 10? There is a test version of Legacy 10 that was just issued to those of us in the Beta testing group. Your GEDCOM may have come from one of the Beta testers. Beta testing is the next step but this can still take a long time. Version 9 was in Beta testing for over a year as bugs and issues were tested and sorted out. No telling how long this phase will be for Version 10. Brian Kelly -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/
[LegacyUG] Legacy 10?
Legacy users, I have a question about Legacy and GEDCOM exports. It appears that the most recent version of Legacy 9 is 9.0.0.393. I am using Legacy 9.0.0.339 so I plan to upgrade to get to the latest version. When I export a GEDCOM file, I see these records at the top that indicate the file was written by Legacy 9: 0 HEAD 1 SOUR Legacy 2 VERS 9.0 That seems correct. However, another Legacy user sent me a GEDCOM file with this version information: 0 HEAD 1 SOUR Legacy 2 VERS 10.0 Is there a Legacy 10? I looked on the LegacyFamilyTree.com site and I don't see any mention of it. John Cardinal -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/
Re: [LegacyUG] Using special alphabet characters in Legacy
Chris, During my 41-year career I've been a software developer, software architect, and CTO, including a five-year period where my team developed commercial applications in VB6. Since 1999 I've had a couple of side-project applications implemented in VB6. My focus now is .NET. As discussed on the site you mentioned and others, there are challenges to implementing Unicode-aware VB6 applications. Other sites describe how to meet those challenges. A couple techniques we used were Unicode-aware component packages and TLBs for access to wide-character functions. Perhaps the technology infrastructure Legacy uses has an ANSI-only component baked-in and switching it out would require a rewrite-level effort. If so, they'd never rewrite in VB6 now so the effective result is "we can't support Unicode until we abandon VB6". John -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/
Re: [LegacyUG] Using special alphabet characters in Legacy
Chris Hill wrote: > NO, the issue is that native VB6 only uses API interfaces > that are limited to ANSI. Chris, That's not true. I've built a dozen or so commercial programs in VB6 that read/write/manipulate Unicode data, including reading and writing UTF-8 files, presenting data entry screens, running reports, etc. A few are still being used. Perhaps there are old third-party components that are not Unicode-aware, but VB6 was certainly not limited to ANSI, API or otherwise. VB^ used in MS Access? I have only done some light scripting there so I don't know what issue Unicode may have presented there. The string type in VB6 used "wide" characters (as they were called then), 16-bits each. It's true that one had to be careful when calling Windows APIs directly and call the correct "W" methods. Calling Windows APIs directly was probably less than 15% of the code in my applications. To write a UTF-8 file, one had to use the "binary" version of the Open File statement ("Open FileSpec For Binary Access Write …") and then convert the chars to UTF-8 before using the PUT call to write the text, but any reasonably-accomplished VB6 programmer knew how to do that. The details escape me, but using binary I/O may only have been necessary when low-level control was required, such as reading/writing the Byte-Order-Mark (BOM). Of course, VB6 was very easy to use and so there were a lot of junior-level programmers who may have been flummoxed by working with Unicode, but that's not the fault of VB6. John -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/
Re: [LegacyUG] Using special alphabet characters in Legacy
Chris, It's easy to support 16-bit Unicode characters in VB6. There are a few places where a program has to be careful to use the "W" version of a Windows API call (not the "A" version), but that's a well-understood issue and unlikely to be a significant problem. The 16-bit subset of Unicode covers every character anyone reading this message cares about, but is not the full set of Unicode characters. So, if VB6 is not the issue, what is? My guess is that the database layer in Legacy uses FoxPro or some other database component that uses 8-bit characters and the old Windows "code page" approach to character encoding. If so, that's where the limitation lies. John -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/
Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania
It's not a scream. All-caps for a single word in a sentence is typically used to indicate strong emphasis of the given word. But you knew that. I'm with Michele: I wish this thread would STOP. Unfortunately, it's not up to me. From: LegacyUserGroup On Behalf Of Bill Hoff Sent: Monday, August 05, 2019 11:42 AM To: Legacy User Group Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania You scream often? Sent from my iPad On Aug 4, 2019, at 11:38 PM, Michele Morrison mailto:michele25m...@gmail.com> > wrote: Could we PLEASE stop this Pennsylvania thread, and just move on? Michele -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/
Re: [LegacyUG] Yes, Date Unknown
Cynthia McKelleb wrote: > How do I get the program to stop from putting a Y in > the death field when I upload a gedcom to a website? Cynthia, I can't answer your question, however, according to the GEDCOM specification, if there is no information (no date, place, etc.) for a death, but death is asserted, then the GEDCOM file should have a "1 DEAT Y" record for the person. So, if you are seeing a "Y" in a Death event after importing a GEDCOM to another program, the other program may not be following the GEDCOM standard. That's common, unfortunately. John -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/
Re: [LegacyUG] Download email?
hpete...@cox.net wrote: > John are you just testing the link? > Or > Do just need a copy of version 9? Henry, I just need a copy of version 9. I want to install it so I can test it with my programs that read/write GEDCOM files. I've got the link now. Thanks! John -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/
[LegacyUG] Download email?
Today I attempted to download the free version of Legacy v9. I have a license for Legacy v8 Deluxe, but have not yet downloaded/installed Legacy 9. I submitted my email address and name, responded to the "captcha" form, and got a page that said I should check my email. The message hasn't arrived and it's been about hours. After about a half-hour, I thought I should resubmit. I used a Gmail address in my original attempt, and I used the "+suffix" trick of appending text to the "real" address to track how the email address is used by the company that requests it. So, "exam...@gmail.com" can also be reached via "example+leg...@gmail.com". I dropped the suffix in case the Legacy mail system doesn't handle the suffix, which I have found to be the case with some systems. That was about 4.5 hours ago. No response yet. About 30 minutes ago, I submitted for a third time and used an email address that is not associated with Gmail. No response to that one yet. How long should I wait before assuming that the process just doesn't work? Has anyone else had trouble with this? John -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/
Re: [LegacyUG] GEDCOM Validator
Ian, I have not used the Blog Decoder. I assume it decodes (and exports?) embedded media objects. Embedded media objects are a rarely-used GEDCOM 5.5 capability that was removed in GEDCOM 5.5.1. None of the popular programs embed media objects. Instead, programs include references to media files where the actual media data remains external to the GEDCOM file in JPG, PNG, etc. files. John -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/
Re: [LegacyUG] GEDCOM Validator
Ian, I have used GEDCOM Validator by Chronoplex. I forget exactly where I found it, but I did not get it via the Windows Store. I use it with Windows 7. The "Best Practice" mode is going to show issues with most GEDCOM files. Best practices are not requirements, and there is not 100% agreement on which non-standard practices to follow when writing GEDCOM files. The "Standards only" mode is probably more useful for the task you described. There will probably be a lot of warnings. Most of those will not be an issue because most software that reads GEDCOM files can handle common issues like lines that exceed the maximum GEDCOM length. The only way to know whether a warning is serious or not is to review the data after importing it to see if data has been lost or corrupted. Typically, the importing program will produce a log and that will help, too. I don't have much experience with Legacy's GEDCOM import so I don't know how extensive its log is. If there are errors, you should investigate. You can use the same approach as with warnings: review the error message from the validator, then review the import log from Legacy (or whichever program you use to read the GEDCOM file), and then review the actual record in Legacy to see if it looks correct. For both warnings and errors, you do not have to review every instance of every issue. You will usually find that a single type of error in the GEDCOM file will be repeated many times, and if any one of those errors does not corrupt the data, then none of them will. That's a generalization, of course, but it's usually true. The character encoding issue is serious. In my opinion, that is the single biggest issue with non-standard GEDCOM files. In 2019, all software should write GEDCOM files using the UTF-8 encoding, and all programs should read that encoding correctly. If a program cannot handle Unicode characters, then it should still read UTF-8 and it should report when characters cannot be loaded because of the limitations of the reading program. I believe that applies to Legacy because Legacy does not use Unicode internally. The problem with encoding issues is that characters can be misinterpreted during the import process. That results in hard-to-find garbled text: the import log usually won't include where those issues occurred because a program that doesn't use the proper encoding when reading the GEDCOM file does not know it has corrupted the text. So, the first thing to check in the import log is whether the importing program has recognized the character encoding of the GEDCOM file. In this case, you said the GEDCOM file uses Windows-1252. That's a common non-standard value and I assume that Legacy and most other modern programs will handle it properly. In GEDCOM 5.5, UTF-8 is not a valid encoding choice. Many programs will still write it anyway, a rare case where ignoring the standard is a good thing. UTF-8 is valid in GEDCOM 5.5.1. Many programs will export to GEDCOM 5.5 or 5.5.1, and if UTF-8 is only a choice when writing to GEDCOM 5.5.1, then use that option. It's sad and ridiculous that users must be aware of character encoding issues when it's an easy problem to solve. John -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/
Re: [LegacyUG] Parallels v14 will not install Legacy Family Tree
Leon, You wrote, “Legacy Family Tree will not install in Parallels V14.0.0 in Windows 10.” What happens when you try? John -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/
Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage - not free
Pauline, Your post indicates that MyHeritage uses subtle techniques to try and part you from your money when you aren't really interested in the product they are pushing. Those techniques are often called "dark patterns". Free services that convert into paid subscriptions are a common example. A free trial that simply ends without a subscription is fine. A free trial that automatically becomes a paid subscription is converting trials into sales under the guise of making it "easier for the customer". That's a dark pattern, albeit a common one. Of course, it's worse when terminating the trial before it converts is difficult or time-consuming: sign-up is easy, one-click, but cancelling is tedious, perhaps via telephone where you wait 30 minutes to get an agent, and then the agent tries to convince you not to cancel. Consumers should be very careful of _every_ interaction with companies that employ dark practices. John -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/
Re: [LegacyUG] Passage Express Replacement
Mike, My GedSite program will make a web site from a GEDCOM exported from Legacy. The site does not have to be published on the web; you can copy the files to a DVD or other portable media to share with relatives. http://www.gedsite.com DVD instructions are here: http://www.gedsite.com/en/publish-removable.htm Some details about using Legacy GEDCOM files with GedSite are here: http://www.gedsite.com/en/legacy.htm Another way to share with family is to create a private website. That incurs a hosting fee, but it provides some benefits: 1 - You do not have to create DVDs and distribute them. 2 - Family members whose devices do not have a DVD can still view the site. 3 - You can update the site and thus update what everyone sees without re-distributing a DVD. You may want to do both: publish a private site and distribute DVDs and/or USB drives. The more ways you publish the project, the more likely it is that it will be available in the future when someone wants to review it. If you have any questions, let me know. John -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/
Re: [LegacyUG] Family tree on the Internet
Walter Wood wrote: > While I am a SecondSite user and not a GedSite user at this > time, I believe John is building in the ability to create > custom GEDCOM tags. Also, GedSite will recognize what program > created the GEDCOM file and respond appropriately. Walter, GedSite handles custom Tag Types in many applications, including Legacy. If you define custom events/facts in Legacy, Legacy includes custom records to define those events in the GEDCOM file. GedSite reads those records. It understands similar records from RootsMagic, Family Historian, and others. GedSite also understands witnesses, roles, sentence templates, etc. As far as I know, the only programs that understand Legacy's sentence templates are Legacy and GedSite. John -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/
Re: [LegacyUG] New version of GedSite with improvements for Legacy users
s megraw wrote: > Does GedSite also handle Legacy Event template sentences > that have been edited by the user? Yes. GedSite understands Legacy's sentence templates. Legacy exports them to the GEDCOM file, and GedSite reads them from there. If you make changes to the templates in the Event Definition window, then export a GEDCOM file, GedSIte will see the modified templates and use the new version when you make the site again. When exporting the GEDCOM file, set Legacy's "Produce file for:" option to "Legacy". John -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/
[LegacyUG] New version of GedSite with improvements for Legacy users
Legacy users, GedSite is a web site builder for GEDCOM files. Version 1.10, released today, has several important Legacy-related enhancements. This version of GedSite supports Legacy sentence templates that are managed in Legacy's "Event Definition" window. This means you can manage GedSite's narrative output from within Legacy. As far as I know, only GedSite and Legacy itself will build narratives using Legacy's sentence templates. This update is free for registered users of GedSite 1. To read the newsletter for this release, and for download and purchase information, please use the following (shortened) URL: https://goo.gl/ancfjG The Change Log includes descriptions of other Legacy-related improvements and fixes: https://goo.gl/yXq9mU I'd like to thank the Legacy users who volunteered to help test this version prior to its release, with special thanks to Debbie Jorgenson who found a couple bugs and made other useful contributions. John Cardinal Author of GedSite -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/
[LegacyUG] GedSite and Legacy
Mary, Your message wasn't about volunteering to be a GedSite tester, so I changed the email topic. You asked some questions of general interest, so I am responding on-list. > I knew I recognized your name. After visiting your website, now I > remember ... TMG and Second Site! So nice to see you still active. Thanks! > Will you come back and let us know when you feel your product is ready > for Legacy? Yes, I will announce when the new version is available, but GedSite already makes good sites from GEDCOM files exported from Legacy. There is one important missing feature--which is my focus now--but that feature isn't required to build a site. As I described in my previous message, the current version of GedSite does not load the sentences defined in the Event Definition window. Instead, it uses sentences that are provided with GedSite. Users can edit those sentence templates. In the next version, which I expect to release by the end of the month, GedSite will load the sentences defined in the Event Definition window. > I had a quick look at some of the websites created with GedSite > and the sites are quick. Curious to see how well it will work with > Legacy and how easy it might be to customize. GedSite supports a lot of customization options, and all of them work with Legacy. > The example sites vary in their presentation and 'look'. That's a fundamental capability of GedSite. It supports several "themes". Themes control the look of the site (colors, fonts, etc.) You can customize a Theme to adjust it to your personal style, and you can create your own Theme if you want. > I especially liked the presentation of this site: > http://winters-online.net/winters-online/winters/up/index.htm > although I see there has been some assistance by a web designer. That site uses a standard Theme supplied with GedSite ("Simple Blue"). The Theme is based on an "open source" site design by the designer who is credited on the page, but the GedSite user who published the site didn't interact with that designer. In other words, you could have the same exact design for your site, if you want. > Can photos attached to individuals and events in Legacy be included > in a site created by GedSite? Yes. GedSite supports "exhibits", which are called media, etc., in other programs. Exhibits may appear with people, events, citations, sources, and places. > Will the changes you're currently testing be offered as an update, > once you're comfortable with them? Yes. There will be a update to GedSite 1 later this month. It will be free for all registered users. It will include the updated Legacy support as well as some other minor fixes and enhancements. Registered users can update to the new version by downloading the installer for the new version when it is available. John -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/
Re: [LegacyUG] Volunteer?
Update There are more than enough people interested, so I won't be accepting any more. Thanks to everyone who has volunteered. I'll be getting back to all of you within a few hours. John Cardinal -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/
[LegacyUG] Volunteer?
I am hoping to find a volunteer or two to help test some Legacy-related changes I am making to GedSite, a Windows program that makes web sites from GEDCOM data. GedSite has special features for several programs, including Legacy. One such feature is the ability to interpret event sentence templates. As of now, the release version of GedSite has only partial support for Legacy sentences: it supports overridden sentences, i.e., sentences that were customized for a particular event. Global sentence templates defined in Legacy's Event Definition window are not supported because the model Legacy uses (where an event definition has 8 sentence variations) is somewhat at odds with how GedSite and other programs work. In a development (pre-release) version of GedSite I have added support for global sentences in Legacy. I'd like some help testing the feature. I'll provide a free license for GedSite 1 to the selected volunteer(s). Please do not volunteer unless you are actively using Legacy. Many genealogists have discovered that GedSite is a useful tool even if you do not intend to publish your data on the web. GedSite makes the web site files on your own PC, and they can be browsed there without any further publishing steps and without any special software. Please contact me off-list to volunteer. Thanks. John Cardinal Author of GedSite - www.gedsite.com Host of Family History Hosting - www.familyhistoryhosting.com -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/
Re: [LegacyUG] LegacyUG] Future of Legacy Private Website Creator
Donna, When GedSite is unregistered, it is limited to making a site for the first 10 people in the GEDCOM file. That's the only "demo" capability using your own data. John -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/
Re: [LegacyUG] LegacyUG] Future of Legacy Private Website Creator
Donna, GedSite shows citations and sources if they are present in the GEDCOM file. John From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On Behalf Of DonnaMR Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 4:24 AM To: Legacy User Group Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] LegacyUG] Future of Legacy Private Website Creator John, does Gedsite automatically show your sources, or do you have to enter that manually? Thanks Donna -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/
Re: [LegacyUG] LegacyUG] Future of Legacy Private Website Creator
Glória, GedSite (www.gedsite.com) does not create trees that look exactly like MyHeritage, but they are not lists, either. GedSite creates "person pages" for each person in the GEDCOM file, but it also allows you to add custom pages. Those pages can contain charts (with several variations available), stories, etc. It also includes a search feature where a visitor can match people based on name, spouse's name, or parent's names. There are too many other features to list here, but you can check it out via the website indicated above. John (author and publisher of GedSite) -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/
Re: [LegacyUG] LegacyUG] Future of Legacy Private Website Creator
CE, GedSite can be used to make private sites, and many users do so. Also, GedSite can be used to create sites that are not published on the web at all, but rather copied to a DVD or thumb drive and given to interested parties. John From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On Behalf Of CE WOOD Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 4:16 PM To: Legacy User Group Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] LegacyUG] Future of Legacy Private Website Creator Thank you, I did. An important advantage for TNG is that you can make it completely private so no one can access your site unless you grant them access. You can also do that on MyHeritage. CE -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/
Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures attached to Vital Info (BMD)
Gloria DeSousa wrote: > Thank you Joyce! :-) (and now CE Wood) TNG looks to be the > equivalent of GedSite. Is there one software better than the > other or is it a matter of preferences? Gloria, I am biased, so it's not useful for me to answer your question about which software is better. One major difference between the two programs is that with TNG, you upload a GEDCOM file to a server and it creates pages when they are needed. That provides some benefits, like the ability to generate some dynamic content that is difficult to create otherwise, but it means you need to install TNG on a server before you can use it, or you must use a hosting service that supports TNG. With GedSite, the pages are made on your own PC, you can review them the pages in your browser, and when you are happy with them, you upload them to a server. There is no special software required on the web server. If you want, you can distribute sites privately via DVD. Some people do not distribute the pages at all; they use GedSite to create web sites for their own use. GedSite will create narrative output, or a mix of narrative and tabular output, and I don't think TNG will do that, but someone who knows TNG better than I do may correct me about that. John -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/
Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures attached to Vital Info (BMD)
Brian, I do not know if there is a way to have Legacy include BMD pictures in its report and/or HTML output. My GedSite program builds websites from GEDCOM data. If you export a GEDCOM file from Legacy, and it includes images attached to any event, BMD included, the image will appear in the web site. I just did a test using the Legacy sample database. I attached an image to Albert J. Randall's birth, then exported a GEDCOM file. I built a site using GedSite, and the image was included in his entry, as expected. I did the test to confirm that Legacy would include the image info in the GEDCOM file. When you make a site with GedSite, the site is created on your own PC and you can review it there before you share it with anyone else. You can read about GedSite here: http://www.gedsite.com John -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/