RE: [LegacyUG] Hand Held Devices for Legacy
John and Sherry - thank you very much for your help. I understand the limitations because I have used Pocket Genealogist for some years on HTC Touch and Jam PDAs John -Original Message- From: hwedhlor [mailto:hwedh...@cox.net] Sent: 27 February 2012 06:01 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Hand Held Devices for Legacy Hi John, Several years ago my mobile device of choice was a Sony Clie on which I ran GedStar Pro, by GHCS Software, and I liked it GedStar Pro much. When the Clie was discontinued I changed over to an iPhone and iPad, and asked Doug Gordon, the author of GedStar Pro, if he had any intention of porting the program over to the Apple iOS devices. Doug replied that he would have to invest in some expensive Mac equipment to do so, and that he was intending to retire after 40+ years writing software (this was in 2008), so I went looking for alternative software. I settled on Families, by Telgen Software, and was fortunate to be involved in some testing of that software both pre-release and subsequent to its introduction. I have been very happy with Families, and with Telgen's responsiveness to input from their user base. I highly recommend Families, which syncs with Legacy and not only displays your data and photos, but will allow input via your mobile device if you choose to do that, after which the new data can be synced back to Legacy. That capability can be very handy if you find yourself in the field without your laptop. Understand however that Families is not Legacy, and does not provide the entire range of features that Legacy provides, which is not surprising considering that Families is designed to run on a much lest robust platform than is Legacy Family Tree. All the best, John John Zimmerman Mesa, Arizona On 2/26/2012 3:28 AM, John Clifford wrote: > I am picking up an old thread here. > > Can anyone advise me about the relative merits of Families and Gedstar > for use on Android phones as a Legacy add-on? > > I have the impression that Millennia used to promote Gedstar but now > Families (there is still a page on the website about Gedstar but no > links to it as far as I can see) > > On the other hand this thread contains a few messages from Sherry > saying she likes Gedstar. > > John > > > > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Hand Held Devices for Legacy
I am picking up an old thread here. Can anyone advise me about the relative merits of Families and Gedstar for use on Android phones as a Legacy add-on? I have the impression that Millennia used to promote Gedstar but now Families (there is still a page on the website about Gedstar but no links to it as far as I can see) On the other hand this thread contains a few messages from Sherry saying she likes Gedstar. John Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Event Locations
I would prefer a variation of Tony's suggestion. The master-file seems an excellent idea but I would not want the program to "pick the appropriate long or short name depending on the date", since I want to present all location names in modern form to be most meaningful to ordinary folk viewing my trees, with an aka button to see other names if they wish. So I would like to add to Tony's suggestion a global choice in Options>Customize>Locations to show all location names as either the name in the master list or the name at the event Date. John -Original Message- From: Tony Rolfe [mailto:geneal...@gillandtony.com] Sent: 08 February 2012 23:14 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Event Locations On Tue, 07 Feb 2012 07:14:16 -0800 Paula Ryburn wrote: > Tony, did you submit the Location AKA suggestion? or something > different? > --Paula in Texas My suggestion was called "Date-linked location names". The basic idea was to have a "Location" master file (or table) with all the tags, Latitude and longitude data etc. and a chain of Long-name/short-name pairs which have a "to" date and their own preposition. If this is implemented we can have a single location, but have the short and long names varying by date, so Location: The generic name for the location to 1837: The, oldest, long, name: a short name for this to 31 mar 1957: A, Different, Long, Name: Another short name to: The, current, long, name: the current short name. To 1837 implies up to and including 31 Dec 1837. A blank date implies to the current date. The Location record would have a location name which may, or may not, be in CSV format. I also suggested that there be a new [Location] for sentence definitions. Obviously, the program would pick the appropriate long or short name depending on the date, defaulting to the location name if either there was no date in the event or if the date was out of range (if I omitted the last line above and the date was after 31 Mar 1957) Seems to meet all criteria, I think? Tony Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] How to add illegitimate child
I find the following procedure works (but Paul's is simpler); Add a new husband called xxx In the marriage information window, tick "This couple did not marry" and Save In the "Husbands of ..." window change the order so that xxx comes first and then Select xxx Add the child to the new couple in the normal way but inserting the mother's surname instead of xxx. Save the child and then Delete the father John -Original Message- From: Tony Rolfe [mailto:geneal...@gillandtony.com] Sent: 09 February 2012 00:18 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] How to add illegitimate child I have a family of husband, wife and children, all duly entered in Legacy. I now find that the wife had a child to an unknown father before she was married. This child carries her maiden surname. I don't want to add a husband named "Unknown" because it implies a non-existent marriage. However, when I try to add the child Legacy says "Add the child to husband and wife", with no way to say "no, just the wife". Is there a neat way to handle this? Thanks Tony Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Event Locations
We had better leave it there Ron, but I think you mis-spelt "facts" as "rants". John -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: 05 February 2012 23:05 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Event Locations John, I do not bother with rants!!! You are simply haven't got it. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: John Clifford Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 10:49 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Event Locations Ron, not only do you not read messages carefully, you don’t seem to look at the findmypast screens which you are pontificating about. 1. You say that the findmypast search is based on the Registration District but on the Basic search screen you can search by birth place, place of residence and COUNTY but NOT by registration district. It is only the Advanced search screen (which I rarely use, because I have not found it of much help) that you can also search by RD, civil parish, etc (etc depending on the census year). Incidentally the search of a database is based on one or more indexes. 2. The search list then takes you to the Household Transcription - which shows some of the reference numbers (but not Enumeration District or Schedule number unfortunately except for 1911), Registration District, Civil Parish, Address and COUNTY. Your reference to searching for Ferguson in Middlesbrough, Yorkshire in the 1851 census exactly proves my point - none found by Findmypast and 5 by Ancestry. Did you not try the Ancestry search before responding? By location I do not mean RD, I mean place, as defined (today) by geo-code. John -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: 05 February 2012 21:20 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Event Locations John, The only person who never misunderstands or never makes a mistake is the one who usually says nothing, or has tunnel vision. When I do I will admit it, but not in this case. However, I think that we are talking at cross purposes. I believe that what you call the Location is what I would call the Registration District. The search in FMP is based on the latter. I usually find it best when looking for returns near a boundary not to enter a county ie. leave it set to "any". Searching for Ferguson in Middlesbrough, Yorkshire, will not be found in 1851 by searching for that location, because the Registration District is Stockton, County Durham. Before searching any county I always check the Registration Districts. I am not too happy with this way of searching, myself, although it does have advantages for those of us who carry out One-Name Studies, but my point is that on FMP's page for a family result it gives the Registration details, the Location has to be obtained from the Image - I usually do this with Ancestry as well btw. , because I do not wish to reply on somebody else's interpretation, which one is advised to do anyhow. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk. -Original Message- From: John Clifford Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 7:01 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Event Locations Ron, I have noticed before that you don't seem to read messages very carefully before replying. I did not say that all Registration Districts are named after a town and I did not say that the presentation of Registration Districts is inaccurate. I did say that the presentation of counties is deliberately inaccurate in the transcription and hence in the Household View, the Indexing and the Search facility as well. For instance, if you know that a person or family lived in Northamptonshire, you will never find them by searching in the Findmypast census transcriptions if they happen to live in the Northamptonshire part of Banbury RD because Findmypast knows that Banbury (the town) is in Oxfordshire and changes Northamptonshire on the census page image to Oxfordshire. Take the Mold family. If you do an exact search in the 1881 census for people living in Northamptonshire with surname Mold, Ancestry will give you 126 individuals but Findmypast will give you only 30. You might also have deduced that when I alleged that Findmypast ignore "the fact that the actual County for the location concerned is correctly written on the original registration form" this means that I do know where to find an address on a census page. In the Findmypast 1911 census images you can also click on an "Address" link to see the accompanying form which the enumerator has filled out; it is sometimes illuminating to compare the two versions of the address. John Clifford -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: 05 February 2012 15:15 To: LegacyUserGroup@L
RE: [LegacyUG] Event Locations
Ron, not only do you not read messages carefully, you don’t seem to look at the findmypast screens which you are pontificating about. 1. You say that the findmypast search is based on the Registration District but on the Basic search screen you can search by birth place, place of residence and COUNTY but NOT by registration district. It is only the Advanced search screen (which I rarely use, because I have not found it of much help) that you can also search by RD, civil parish, etc (etc depending on the census year). Incidentally the search of a database is based on one or more indexes. 2. The search list then takes you to the Household Transcription - which shows some of the reference numbers (but not Enumeration District or Schedule number unfortunately except for 1911), Registration District, Civil Parish, Address and COUNTY. Your reference to searching for Ferguson in Middlesbrough, Yorkshire in the 1851 census exactly proves my point - none found by Findmypast and 5 by Ancestry. Did you not try the Ancestry search before responding? By location I do not mean RD, I mean place, as defined (today) by geo-code. John -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: 05 February 2012 21:20 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Event Locations John, The only person who never misunderstands or never makes a mistake is the one who usually says nothing, or has tunnel vision. When I do I will admit it, but not in this case. However, I think that we are talking at cross purposes. I believe that what you call the Location is what I would call the Registration District. The search in FMP is based on the latter. I usually find it best when looking for returns near a boundary not to enter a county ie. leave it set to "any". Searching for Ferguson in Middlesbrough, Yorkshire, will not be found in 1851 by searching for that location, because the Registration District is Stockton, County Durham. Before searching any county I always check the Registration Districts. I am not too happy with this way of searching, myself, although it does have advantages for those of us who carry out One-Name Studies, but my point is that on FMP's page for a family result it gives the Registration details, the Location has to be obtained from the Image - I usually do this with Ancestry as well btw. , because I do not wish to reply on somebody else's interpretation, which one is advised to do anyhow. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk. -Original Message- From: John Clifford Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 7:01 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Event Locations Ron, I have noticed before that you don't seem to read messages very carefully before replying. I did not say that all Registration Districts are named after a town and I did not say that the presentation of Registration Districts is inaccurate. I did say that the presentation of counties is deliberately inaccurate in the transcription and hence in the Household View, the Indexing and the Search facility as well. For instance, if you know that a person or family lived in Northamptonshire, you will never find them by searching in the Findmypast census transcriptions if they happen to live in the Northamptonshire part of Banbury RD because Findmypast knows that Banbury (the town) is in Oxfordshire and changes Northamptonshire on the census page image to Oxfordshire. Take the Mold family. If you do an exact search in the 1881 census for people living in Northamptonshire with surname Mold, Ancestry will give you 126 individuals but Findmypast will give you only 30. You might also have deduced that when I alleged that Findmypast ignore "the fact that the actual County for the location concerned is correctly written on the original registration form" this means that I do know where to find an address on a census page. In the Findmypast 1911 census images you can also click on an "Address" link to see the accompanying form which the enumerator has filled out; it is sometimes illuminating to compare the two versions of the address. John Clifford -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: 05 February 2012 15:15 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Event Locations John, Firstly, Registration Districts are not necessarily named after a town, for example "West Ward". The presentation of the the Registration Districts is accurate and using them correctly identifies exactly where the record can be found by/at the GRO. Prior to the 1911 census the Location was given at the top of ever census page, but for 1911 you need to look at that given by the householder on the bottom right of the image. I am very glad that FMP did not take your advice. Ron Ferguson www.fergys.co.u
RE: [LegacyUG] Event Locations
Thanks Jenny, I understand that is where "the rules" have come from. But I think the situation has changed with the arrival of the Internet and I would guess that most people using Legacy are now "amateurs" working on their own family trees who do not particularly want to be taken seriously by experts but to do a good job for their families and descendants. This may need a different set of standards as to how best to present information and Legacy support staff may need to alter their advice to "Locations should always be entered in the form that will be most informative to the expected viewer of your family tree but you are free to use the names as they were at the time of the event for antiquarian or professional purposes". John Clifford -Original Message- From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk] Sent: 05 February 2012 14:07 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Event Locations On 05/02/2012 12:50, John Clifford wrote: > Where does the "should" come from? Genealogy, like so many other activities, has acquired various "rules" for "best practice" which have been developed by expert and professional users over the years so that there is some sort of standardization and agreement about how best to present information. That doesn't mean to say that everyone has to follow such "rules" slavishly if they choose not to do so. But those who want to be taken seriously by experts and professionals, or who aspire to be experts or professionals themselves will attempt to do things as they "should" be done. So to expand on what Sherry wrote, "Locations should always be entered as they were at the time of the event, but you are free to do it differently if you so choose." -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Event Locations
Ron, I have noticed before that you don't seem to read messages very carefully before replying. I did not say that all Registration Districts are named after a town and I did not say that the presentation of Registration Districts is inaccurate. I did say that the presentation of counties is deliberately inaccurate in the transcription and hence in the Household View, the Indexing and the Search facility as well. For instance, if you know that a person or family lived in Northamptonshire, you will never find them by searching in the Findmypast census transcriptions if they happen to live in the Northamptonshire part of Banbury RD because Findmypast knows that Banbury (the town) is in Oxfordshire and changes Northamptonshire on the census page image to Oxfordshire. Take the Mold family. If you do an exact search in the 1881 census for people living in Northamptonshire with surname Mold, Ancestry will give you 126 individuals but Findmypast will give you only 30. You might also have deduced that when I alleged that Findmypast ignore "the fact that the actual County for the location concerned is correctly written on the original registration form" this means that I do know where to find an address on a census page. In the Findmypast 1911 census images you can also click on an "Address" link to see the accompanying form which the enumerator has filled out; it is sometimes illuminating to compare the two versions of the address. John Clifford -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: 05 February 2012 15:15 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Event Locations John, Firstly, Registration Districts are not necessarily named after a town, for example "West Ward". The presentation of the the Registration Districts is accurate and using them correctly identifies exactly where the record can be found by/at the GRO. Prior to the 1911 census the Location was given at the top of ever census page, but for 1911 you need to look at that given by the householder on the bottom right of the image. I am very glad that FMP did not take your advice. Ron Ferguson www.fergys.co.uk/ -----Original Message- From: John Clifford Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 1:19 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Event Locations The problem is less if you use Ancestry or other transcriptions instead of findmypast. Registration Districts often cross county boundaries but are named after a town in one of the counties. Findmypast seem to insist on entering the name of the county which contains the town which is part of the registration district name for all the locations within that RD, regardless of the fact that the actual County for the location concerned is correctly written on the original registration form. Whenever I have asked for a correction to the proper County name they have refused and then added "we aim to provide you with an exact copy of the original census page" When I have pointed out that this is a blatant lie I have received no reply. Not strictly related to Legacy I am afraid, but it is infuriating when one is trying to search for people born in a particular county and they don’t appear on a findmypast search (which is usually better than its competitors) not just as a result of human error but of deliberate policy. John Clifford -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: 04 February 2012 11:14 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Event Locations Tony, Which country's censuses are your referring to? For the English/Welsh censuses it may well appear that this is the case, whereas in fact it is not. The reason being that the locations are recorded in Registration Districts which are not the same as the locations, although the detail above the columns is. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Tony Rolfe Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 5:41 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Event Locations On Fri, 03 Feb 2012 18:32:15 -0800 Bjørn K Nilssen > I prefer that second school too. What I'm interested in is where that > location is, and who shared it. Adding 10 or more differently spelled > versions isn't really that useful IMO. It would be nice to have an AKA > for locations too though, with date and text fields. What would be really nice would be to have date-linked short names for a given location. Something like Long Name: Sometown, someplace, Somecountry Short name: to 31 mar 1837: An original short name Short Name: to 1 Jan 1951: a different short name here Short Name: to: current short name for the place One problem I have is that Census enumerators described the same location differently on different censuses. It would be nice to record what they actually w
RE: [LegacyUG] Event Locations
The problem is less if you use Ancestry or other transcriptions instead of findmypast. Registration Districts often cross county boundaries but are named after a town in one of the counties. Findmypast seem to insist on entering the name of the county which contains the town which is part of the registration district name for all the locations within that RD, regardless of the fact that the actual County for the location concerned is correctly written on the original registration form. Whenever I have asked for a correction to the proper County name they have refused and then added "we aim to provide you with an exact copy of the original census page" When I have pointed out that this is a blatant lie I have received no reply. Not strictly related to Legacy I am afraid, but it is infuriating when one is trying to search for people born in a particular county and they dont appear on a findmypast search (which is usually better than its competitors) not just as a result of human error but of deliberate policy. John Clifford -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: 04 February 2012 11:14 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Event Locations Tony, Which country's censuses are your referring to? For the English/Welsh censuses it may well appear that this is the case, whereas in fact it is not. The reason being that the locations are recorded in Registration Districts which are not the same as the locations, although the detail above the columns is. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Tony Rolfe Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 5:41 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Event Locations On Fri, 03 Feb 2012 18:32:15 -0800 Bjørn K Nilssen > I prefer that second school too. What I'm interested in is where that > location is, and who shared it. Adding 10 or more differently spelled > versions isn't really that useful IMO. It would be nice to have an > AKA for locations too though, with date and text fields. What would be really nice would be to have date-linked short names for a given location. Something like Long Name: Sometown, someplace, Somecountry Short name: to 31 mar 1837: An original short name Short Name: to 1 Jan 1951: a different short name here Short Name: to: current short name for the place One problem I have is that Census enumerators described the same location differently on different censuses. It would be nice to record what they actually wrote, without having to make a different location entry for each census. Now the program would pick the short name according to the date for the display. Actually, it might be useful to have both short and long names varying by date with a "Location name" to identify it, but which isn't used in reports. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Event Locations
Where does the "should" come from? I have gradually moved to using the latest version of place names because I am producing a family tree for family members and other people who are not expert genealogists. I want to make the tree as meaningful and easy to understand as possible. In particular: 1. seeing the current name for a location gives the average user a good idea of where the event took place, whereas using obsolete spelling, county name, or (especially) country name will be misleading or meaningless 2. using the Bing geo-coding tool in Legacy is unnecessarily arduous if you use old names 3. when geo-codes are translated back onto a map, for instance in Google on TNG, the user will only see modern names and may be puzzled if the event name is different. 4. for fellow geeks, the old name(s) can be put in the source text/detail and will still be documented. Incidentally the UK Registration Districts names change successively in some areas, like country names. I was reading recently about a place in Central Europe that was in three different countries on the same day, in 1939 I think. Having said all that an aka facility in Legacy for Location would be very useful and I will add a request. John Clifford -Original Message- From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com] Sent: 03 February 2012 21:09 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Event Locations Locations should always be entered as they were at the time of the event. You can add notes about changes in notes for the location in the Master Location List or in the notes for the event Location Notes can be included in the Location Index in a report. I's always interesting to read of how much a town has "moved" around. In the US we just see county or state boundaries change around a town not whole countries, thankfully! Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 12:46 PM, Ray Rhoads wrote: > This may not be the right place to ask this question but here go's anyway. > > When entering a place name for an event, (birth, death etc.) that took > place in a foreign country should you use present day locations or the > location at the time of the event? > > My reason for asking is that my mothers family comes from an town in > present day Germany. However they came to this country before there was a Germany. > Although the events always occurred in the same town that town at > times was part of different Countries or Kingdoms. I have cases where > people were born in Bavaria, married France and died in Prussia and in > between lived in another kingdom but never left the town. > > Your thoughts would be appreciated > > Ray Rhoads Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Timeline - short descr. in reports
I don't know why you are surprised at Millennia's response to your problem. It is exactly the same mindset which insists on installing Legacy to C:\. The IT community has had years of experience which has gone into creating standards to help users of mailing lists, Windows, etc. But Millennia knows better and insists on bucking the standards and causing problems for those of us who follow the rules. John Clifford -Original Message- From: Bjørn K Nilssen [mailto:b...@bknilssen.no] Sent: 26 January 2012 01:13 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Timeline - short descr. in reports På Thu, 26 Jan 2012 00:29:53 +0100, skrev Ron Bernier : > I have no doubt that there are others having issues with the list, but you are the only person complaining so vehemently. The majority of folks (myself included) are using mail readers that have no problems with the Legacy list messages. Outlook has absolutely no problems sorting Legacy messages into appropriate threads. I also have no problems with message threads using the mail program on my iPhone and iPad. I have no idea why not more people are complaining when there's unquestionably something wrong with the setup of the list. Maybe it's because they/you don't have experience with other, rules-conforming and well behaved mailing lists? Or with "good" mail clients? ;) No way I'm going back to Outlook just to be able to view the messages grouped and sorted, when Opera is so much better.. BTW, I have no problems reading the list on my Android phone neither, but that is because the mail client is pretty simple and dumb. OTOH I have no idea why some people here seems to prefer that Millennia do not try to fix the errors? Is it because you're afraid that they will mess it up more, and cause worse problems for everybody? Or do you absolutely not want to have real threading? Or do you think that if they follow the mailing list rules, like everybody else, it will cause problems? Just wondering.. Time for a little maintenance here - I have around 100 new "mailing lists" to remove here, all from LegacyUserGroup :( To avoid deleting the messages as I remove the "lists" I have to do it one by one. Takes about 10 mins a day, which is really a complete waste of time when it so easily could've been avoided.. > Ron Bernier > Sent from my iPad -- Bjørn K Nilssen - b...@bknilssen.no - 3D and panoramas Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] UAC - Users Account Control
Perhaps Jerry assumed, as I would, from the wording in the Customize>Launch tab that Legacy sets its own defaults. But the Help file explains that we are talking about Operating System defaults, i.e. Windows file type settings. So perhaps Jerry needs to check his Open with defaults on .log files. John Clifford -Original Message- From: Mike Fry [mailto:mike...@iafrica.com] Sent: 25 January 2012 07:36 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] UAC - Users Account Control On 2012/01/25 01:54, Jerry wrote: > 3 - Alternate Text Editor to use with Legacy (Leave blank for default > text editor) > > I kept expecting Legacy to automatically find Notepad, so I left that > blank. But it did not find it and kept giving me errors. So, when I > found Notepad (and Notepad ++) and put those in there, it worked both > times. It is not working if I leave it blank (maybe Legacy is > expecting it to be in a different location - not sure). It doesn't "find" Notepad. It uses Default Programs and what has been defined as the default program for opening .TXT files. If that hadn't been set up properly, then it couldn't open the log file. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Correct file path for media
Tony I agree. I ignore the Legacy instructions and install in Program Files. I have used Legacy for 8 years with copies of my data on TNG, a netbook and various PDAs and smartphones and never had problems with where data is stored. John Clifford -Original Message- From: Tony Rolfe [mailto:geneal...@gillandtony.com] Sent: 22 January 2012 00:16 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Correct file path for media First, let me clarify my previous post. I install Legacy into the C:\Legacy folder and that's the last time I touch that folder. All data related to my family history research is in D:\Genealogy sub-folders. Having said that, I'm baffled (and always have been) as to why the original designers of Legacy chose to completely ignore the standard which says that executable code goes in one of the Program Files folders, Application data goes into the AppData folders and user data goes wherever the user wants to put it. I have well over 100 installed programs on my machine and every one of them follows that convention, including LTools and Gensmarts. Except Legacy. Only Legacy ignores this and only Legacy has issues with where data are stored. Please fix this in version 8. Tony Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Check/Repair
Ron Taylor wrote: "External drive backups are valuable but will not provide a "saved version" of your file should it be necessary to return to an earlier edition of the database. The external file would only be a backup of the last version saved." Not so. If you use incremental backups you can keep as many historic versions as you like, with the relevant pictures, media, gedcoms etc. And by using automatic scheduling you ensure that you never forget to backup or mess it up. John Clifford -Original Message- From: Ron Taylor [mailto:doit4...@yahoo.com] Sent: 20 January 2012 14:10 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Check/Repair The Legacy backup collects all the various pieces of the database into a zip file container. That zip file is smaller because of the techniques used in the zip process but the container also preserves the file integrity. A zip file will not open if it is corrupted or partial. External drive backups are valuable but will not provide a "saved version" of your file should it be necessary to return to an earlier edition of the database. The external file would only be a backup of the last version saved. At times, an error is only discovered days after the problem occurred and the current file and the last backup are both infected. Check/Repair is a very necessary procedure on any database. It determines if file structures are properly connected. It does not repair data errors which may be discovered in various problem reports. It does not change data. It may remove incorrectly linked marriages, etc. Anyone who fails to run check/repair on a regular basis is going to be surprised to find that the computer programming is not flawless. Even if check/repair never finds and fixes problems, it still needs to be run. As a general rule, I believe that a clean Check/Repair should be completed just prior to a backup so that if the backup needs to be restored, it can be considered to be a clean database without structural errors. Ron Taylor Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Check/Repair
I can't see the point of making Legacy backups. I keep all Legacy datafiles in a sub-folder of My Documents and they are backed up every week (onto an external hard drive) with all my other documents and data by a specialised backup/restore program, which is likely to be more reliable and flexible than anything built into Legacy (and much safer than anything in the cloud). I have used Legacy for about 8 years without problems and never heard of File Maintenance or run it to my knowledge. John Clifford -Original Message- From: Marnie Oakes [mailto:marnie.oa...@verizon.net] Sent: 19 January 2012 20:20 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Check/Repair Right now I have no Legacy problems. However, I have not run File Maintenance in weeks because the last time I did I ended up with a very mixed up files. Children of parents in the 1900s ended up in Medieval families; individuals from my husband's database were intermixed with mine, etc. I went back to my backups and have been ignoring the problem. I am concerned that I should be doing the maintenance or that a problem may occur that requires maintenance for the solution. Any hints on how to do run check/repair without problems? Making backups certainly saved my data. I checked the archives, but didn't find that anyone else had had my problems. Marnie Oakes Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Is this group still active?
Dede seems extremely active to me - I only subscribed 6 days ago and have received 130 messages John Clifford _ From: Dede Holden [mailto:deanbuc...@gmail.com] Sent: 17 January 2012 10:29 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Is this group still active? I used to be a member of this group, but had to opt out for awhile. I have been trying unsuccessfully to resubscribe. This is a test message, just to see if there is still any activity in this group. Dede Holden Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Registration districts in Legacy
1. I have nearly 9,000 people in my family tree, spread over five centuries. I only know exact BMD dates/places for about 200 of them because they are close relatives, living cousins with whom I am in contact or listed in some family bible. Probably over 5,000 were alive after 1837 and therefore appear in the GRO indexes where I can identify the quarter and registration district for their birth, marriage and death. For perhaps 3,000 of these, born before 1911, I can find from the censuses the village or town where they were born but not where they were married or died. To identify all the other events more accurately than to a registration district would require me to buy 12,000 certificates from the GRO for £111,000 - I don't have that sort of money to spend on a hobby. 2. It is true that a person may not have been born/married/died in the district where the event was registered but this is unusual and it is very unusual for there to be a large distance between the two. Knowing the registration district is more accurate than knowing that the event took place in a named large city and a great deal more accurate and useful than having no location at all. 3. Geo-codes identify a spot on the map by latitude and longitude. A geo-code for a town will tell you approximately where the event took place - perhaps within a radius of 2 or 3 miles and a geo-code for a registration district will do the same thing within a larger radius, perhaps 5 miles. Either is very useful in showing on a map, perhaps covering several counties, the places where a family has lived. 4. The point of showing clearly in a family tree that a cited location is a registration district is to indicate to the viewer that the location is near a particular town but not necessarily in it and not necessarily in the same county as the town named. 5. For the other 4,000 people in my database, I can identify the baptism for most of them which gives an indication of when and where they were born. For a few of them the baptism record will tell you if they came from a different parish than where they were baptised and for a small minority the record will tell you the date of birth - which is sometimes several years before the baptism. This is all useful information but not completely reliable - but then no source is. Sometimes it is possible to find the exact date of a marriage from parish records but not necessarily where the couple lived. Burial records can also give an approximation to the date and place of death. John Clifford -Original Message- From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk] Sent: 12 January 2012 19:53 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Registration districts in Legacy On 12/01/2012 19:46, Jerry wrote: > I see your point, but I thought when the inquiry was made, they were > talking about a person who was registered in such-and-such a place and > was also born there. Doesn't that also occur? Yes, it does, of course. But speaking for myself alone, if I know exactly where the person was born I enter that as Town, County, Country, not as Registration District. I only use the RD as a location when that is all the information I have - but it may well be stated as part of the Source Citation. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Registration districts in Legacy
I think Jerry's solution is workable. I have tried it on some items in my Master Location List - edited the long name by replacing RD with the county name, saved and Bing found the geo-codes, then edited it back to original. Success. In some cases I found that I had to prompt Bing to find the new place by clicking on the Geo-code button and choosing "Geo-code current location again . . . .". I also found that Legacy/Bing accepts abbreviations for UK county names (like Beds for Bedfordshire) which speeds up the task. I am not too worried by the West Ward problem as there are only a few districts with this type of name. Thanks a lot Jerry. John Clifford -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: 11 January 2012 20:10 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Registration districts in Legacy Jerry, I think I see what you mean, but the names of registration districts may not relate to anything so simple, for example "West Ward" in Westmorland. The districts often cover quite large areas and encompass several towns, many also include sub-districts. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Jerry Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 5:22 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Registration districts in Legacy Just a possible idea, but if you just put the "city name" in the location field and RD in the adjacent note field, the geo codes should be found. Once they are found, you could move RD back to the location field. Jerry Ron Ferguson wrote: >John, > >In a nutshell no, although I write RD (Registration District) in full >to avoid confusion with Rural District. > >Your best bet is to take the birth place from a census, or get the >certificate. > >Ron Ferguson >http://www.fergys.co.uk/ > >-Original Message- >From: John Clifford >Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 11:59 AM >To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com >Subject: [LegacyUG] Registration districts in Legacy > >I don't know whether this applies only to the UK or also to other >countries. > >Many of the locations in my family tree come from the General Registry >Office indexes of Births, Marriages and Deaths; these locations >identify only the Registration Districts which have names usually based >on one town within the district. > >I enter these locations into my Legacy database by adding RD after the >name of the registration district (to avoid confusion with the smaller >area/place with the same name). > >This generally works well except for mapping - the geo-location mapping >facility in Legacy doesn't recognise these locations. > >Does anyone have a better system for naming locations which are >Registration Districts? > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Registration districts in Legacy
I don't know whether this applies only to the UK or also to other countries. Many of the locations in my family tree come from the General Registry Office indexes of Births, Marriages and Deaths; these locations identify only the Registration Districts which have names usually based on one town within the district. I enter these locations into my Legacy database by adding RD after the name of the registration district (to avoid confusion with the smaller area/place with the same name). This generally works well except for mapping - the geo-location mapping facility in Legacy doesn't recognise these locations. Does anyone have a better system for naming locations which are Registration Districts? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
